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What's a current Yamaha MT-09 owner to make of this heavily revised model? Alex rides the 2021 MT-09 to find out if it's worth it to consider trading up.
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#Yamaha #MT09 #Review - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Test drove one yesterday for the first time. Come from a '92 cbr 1000f sport tourer. Sjeeez what a machine. Awesome to drive. Very Light, power enough.
I Love the Style like a "GUNDAM MECHA" made into a Street Fighter Bike....
Without a doubt this is THE best MT09 review on TH-cam. And quite possibly the best review in years of any motorcycle. Nice work, young man. Keep it up. Subscribed till I croak. 👍👍👍
Excellent review - great detail, informative ride-out & some valuable comparisons with previous gen models. Greetings from the UK too!
Great review, I like how much info you gave
Great review mate! Best video review I’ve seen out of dozens on TH-cam. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Thanks Alex! Great comprehensive review that highlights all of the important points without all of the fluff. I am seriously considering this bike and will probably spring for the SP with the upgraded suspension and cruise control. Still not available yet in DC area yet. Local dealers are saying that they anticipate arrival in August... I cant wait to see it and check it out!
Tough decision to part with a bike with so much effort and money invested in it. Good luck with your decision.
Cheers!
Were u able to find one?
Picking up 2022 SP tomorrow! WOOOO! You should do 'just the noise' and night drive videos. Great to watch while working and if you're thinking about purchasing!
Great review...you are natural at this...enjoyed!
Solid video. Well done 👍
Great review man!
Just bought an SP. Great bike. Thanks for going throught the TFT menu. Good review !!
Best review yet,Congrats!
Excellent camera angles. Great review. 👍
Great review, thanks!
Great review, very informational
Good morning Alex!!☀️😎
Big Yamaha fan! Happy to shell out the coin on that one! Thx Alex, excellent review!
Did you sell the coin?
I just picked my 2021 MT09 up 2 weeks ago after 11 years on four wheels only. Everything is set in ‘help me’ mode right now but this is an awesome bike and this is one of the reviews that helped me make my mind up. Loving the channel. I hope you made the swap! Cheers buddy
4 wheels as in a quad? Or car first bike that is crazy to me been riding for 20 years started at 8years old I'm not 28
@@kierannt9041 Four wheels as in car. However, I started on a 600 Bandit 24 years ago. Moved to 4 wheels only after taking a job that came with a company car and many days per week on the road. Never got to ride much so got rid of my bike. Now I’m back 😁
Good review! However, one nit - I believe the correct torque output from the previous gen MT09 (I had one as well) was measured no higher than 67 lb/ft of torque, not 85! 85 would put this into super naked territory and, though nice, isn't in the cards. Probably 70 lb/ft is closer to correct for the present 890 MT.
Young man, buy the SP model and you'll have about a perfect naked you'll keep for quite some time!
I'd also like to beg the manufacturers to come out with larger TFT's for old guys like me. I have to wear bifocals to see these small screens in an age when
tft's ought to be dirt cheap.
Great review!
Thanks for the info can't wait to get mine
Nice in depth review, i'm an owner of the 2nd gen MT-07 and thinking of upgrading to 09. I was thinking of getting this 3rd gen of 09 but maybe wait for little while before it gets some revision on few things i.e. the bezel on the TFT screen. ;P
Great review. very easy to watch and listen to!
Great review. Thanks.
man that road in the mountains looks awesome, there arent many roads like that here in NZ despite how many mountains we have.
Thanks for comparison. I had a '19 MT09 too and the thing was an overcooked noodle. It just didn't have the suspension/chassis the engine required. I reluctantly sold it rather than putting money into it. I loved the engine, but it just was dicey when really pushing. I have my eye on a '22... trying now to determine if they got the new suspension right. I supposed the SP is the safer choice, but supply is an issue too.
I like everything about the mk3, including the headlight. The best value bike on the market.
Owner of a 2018. I'm going on a demo ride early June and the SP is my goal with that. I've been on a few trips where cruise control would be a revelation (also prevent traffic citations, increase fuel range, take one thing off the list of things to concentrate on). Also the suspension updates (Ohlins rear especially) would be a notch above what your review has said is already substantially better than the last-gen. I was on a demo ride just yesterday over with Kawasaki and the Z900 is immensely more stable, neutral, and confidence inspiring than the '18 MT. That's also a consideration, but obviously the updated MT has loads more electronic bits than the Z.
Kawasaki Z needs a quick update with all those bells and whistles...I am considering a Z H2 SE but it wont be nimble
@@maldridge7630 Perhaps they do. But they aren't ride-by-wire yet and it would require some substantial systems reengineering to achieve the usual suite of gizmos becoming more and more commonplace these days. Honestly they aren't necessary, but they are nice when comparing similar class models. If I could have IMU based TC and ABS, a cruise control, and absolutely nothing else I'd be satisfied. Even if those things were delivered with a clear analogue tach and LCD speedo w/indicators.
The new IMU is definitely a big plus to upgrade. Lotsa comment on the headlight but they look fine tbh. The only headache is, where to install steering damper hahahhahh. Stay connected! Subscribed
A VERY in depth look at this bike. Very obvious your enthusiasm for it gave your review a more passionate comparison to what you already own. I feel your conflict-ion. 2 years apart and a lot of modifications can seriously hamper your easy move to a newer, better riding bike. IF money is not your main concern, ask yourself this, are all those mods you slapped on really enhancing your ride enjoyment over this new bike? Seems to me the praise you gave this bike says the enjoyment and secure feel you get from it is worth the swap. Just don't over modify it in case a newer better version comes along in 2 more years. lol
great review
Yeah you found some of the local canyons I mentioned in your last video. Is this Angeles Forest I can't quite tell?
Is this bike good enough and usually commuting friendly? for daily use and weekend touring? which one is beter? this version or SP
Any way great video
Be safe
Good review. Gave me most everything I wanted.
I've been waiting for 'my' MT-09 SP to show up for 2 months now (Aug 3rd). I've got a pair of ASV levers (gold with blue thumb adjusters) just waiting...Looking for an SC-Project exhaust system to come out. (Waiting totally sux)
Excellent review thanks
Great changes I agree with all of your observations. I don't understand why they always go small on the gauges and fuel level always a guess on all modern models.
just look at the gauge up close when you're stopped
how often do u drive for an entire tank of gas worth of mileage and never stop or look down at the fuel level?
My new black MT-09 is almost here, can't wait!! Ordered mine a month ago
Any feel for dealership availability in general this year?
@@exothermal.sprocket I live at the other end of the globe in New Zealand. The first batch in Auckland sold instantly, did not keep a demo. So no test rides. When I asked they said one left buy it of you want. If not someone else will. Not a good environment to do a trade ;-0 I think more have arrived and a demo is finally available now. Weather crap. No Sp demos yet. Funny world....
@@paulconnell1309 All this supply chain business is on purpose. Who in the world could leverage such control over GLOBAL supply chains? The private western central bankers, the ones crying for a "great reset." The ones wanting their globalist totalitarian utopia. Globalism is Satanic. Fight against this crap with every last cell in your bloodstream.
What navigation app do you use when riding? I particularly noticed the night ride when you had your phone facing horizontal. Pretty cool! App?
Great review.
An ADV bike might appreciate no key for seat?? If you have keyless, you should be able to use a button anywhere on bike.
Just to confirm, the new bike has BOTH up and DOWN clutchless and autoblipping shifts as standard equipment? Thank you. ( every Yamaha rep Ive spoken to cant even answer this)
Late response, but yes, Q/S up and down with autoblip.
I've been riding for many years now, and it seems that when an updated model is released, the manufacture's always say the new model is 50% more rigid than the previous model. If that's true, they should all have zero flex in them by now!
100% 😂😂😂
Lean a bike far over, and the telescopic suspension no longer is in-line with bumps. At that point the chassis had to twist and flex to offer compliance to traction. Ducati ran into this problem a few generations back with the Panigale. They made their frames too torsionally stiff and the bike's traction at the leaning limit was terrible. But the opposite is true as well, get a wet noodle for stiffness and other problems happen like wobbly handling and terrible lack of confidence, all pronounced by lousy suspension components.
Very true 😂😂😂
MAY 26 2021 First
An infinite number of people walk into a bar. The first person orders a pint of beer, the next a half pint, the next a quarter of a pint and so on. Each person orders 50 % of the volume of the person before. How much beer would be poured? Answer is just 2 pints. Fun statistics, I guess that rigidity works the same the other way, a 70s Honda to a 90s Ducati to a 2021 Yamaha…..
1:26 The infamous Tacoma water pump gasket returns!!!
Well done review
Great review. I went from FZ09 to MT07 personally. Both great bikes I just have more fun with MT07
Just curious, what’s more fun about the mt07? I’m torn between the 2 but leaning toward the 09 due to all the electronics and upgraded suspension on the 09sp
@@iGetDown420 think more smaller bike less power, bigger bike more power. the 07 is a little cheap buildt but you get what you pay for. you can do the same stuff with both bike. so would say test both bike and see which of them thats gives you the biggest smile
@@iGetDown420 keep leaning. 09 is better .
Good review 👍❤️
Great job Alex
Test rode the new MT09SP in the UK. I have now brought one. Hopefully should pick it up very soon. It’s great handling and a great engine upgrade. Blew me away. Might look similar to the previous bike but it’s a whole new beast.
great handling? GREATTT handling? I've been eyeing one so you just may sell me on the idea.
How's the gearbox? Usual yamaha notchy or honda smooth?
@@bmwm3man very slick. The quick shifter, up and down is properly the best I’ve experienced
@@bmwm3man I’ve not had it on a track but on the road, it’s very, very good. 100% better feeling from the front then the last version of the MT09.
@@Steve-motorcycles That's it, I'm getting one. Thanks for winning me over :D
You probably meant to say 89 Newton Meters of torque not lb-ft ,if you wanted to use the Europian figures, because the actual torque figure of the 2021 MT09 in LB-FT is 69. The HP you mentioned was correct.
thanks for that correction, I almost thought I needed to get rid of my 1000 ninja and get this bike...LOL
@@maldridge7630 Well the TQ and HP figures of the MT09 may not match up to the Kawa 1000 but considering the 3K savings in cash and the 100lbs savings in weight It's certainly not far behind, if at all. I've had both the second gen MT-09 and the MT10, I really like the looks of the Kawa Z1000 and I have the 2021 MT-09 in order and probably stop there for a while. Hopefully nothing cool comes out for a while, because the temptations are getting too numerous :D
Cool review, thanks. I see that you have a screen on your 2019 bike. Would you recommend this? I recently rode a GSX S750 and did not like the wind getting under my helmet at speed, say 130kph. Secondly was the turning circle ok around town? Not had the chance to ride the 2021 MT09 yet. Definitely on my list for a trade up now.
Owned 2020 s750. Testrode the new mt09 and ordered same day. The Mt is much lighter and therefore easier to steer.
Love the screen. I put it on because I love the look but it helps keep wind off my chest, but my head is still fully exposed to the wind, which is how I like to ride.
If I wanted no side panels on my bike, i'd take them off. It just looks like they forgot to put them on, or they fell off or something. Apart from that, I like the look of it and am somewhat interested.
Your torque listing was inaccurate. The 2020 and below mt09 makes about 65 lb ft and the 2021 is listed as 69 lb ft
Excellent video , but you left out two things and that is how much fuel the tank can hold and how many miles or Kms you can get out of a full tank
Please advise if throttle especially on off is still snatchy?
eu nunca andei com nenhuma mt 09 , e sei que sao muito fortes , mas esta versao , nao me sai da cabeça ,...esta muito refinada e melhorada a varios niveis e creio que tbm é mais segura ,.. pois tem muitas ajudas eletronicas ,..sem duvida , que se pudesse trocar my mt 07 , seria por esta nova 3 ger. mt 09 ,.. fantastic naked bike !!
Didn’t realize there was a tfl ride
I would really like to see you guys review the Kawasaki Vulcan Vaquero. Would like to get your thoughts if it's a good bike.
Nice! It is sorta ugly, but so was the last one. This one might be less ugly. I wish they would fix that "1,2,3,4" stuff and replace them with words like "track, sport, touring, and rain" and "high and low" for the TC. I had an XSR900 and never could keep that all straight. I only rode the bike occasionally, so keeping the "A or B" settings straight was a pain.
I got the MT07 as my first bike. As I drove over 60k in less then 3 years I feel like I want to upgrade. Always been tempted by the brother MT09. Now that there's a newer version (2021) I kinda want to know from other people whether I should just get a older MT09 version, or really consider getting the 2021 version. Thank you for this video. It already gave some insight, just hope some other people could comment on it :)
Were u able to find one?
@@Abundance4LL nope, I've decided to hold on with the idea for now
I'm on a FZ09 first gen, how is the throttle, is it still twichy?
Does the mt09 now have bi directional shift quickshifter? Some have said the older years only had quickshift up but I could swear the 22 have up and down quick shifter (clutchless shift)
That brake fluid container sticking up looks terrible.
That headlight wouldn’t be so bad if it were moved down a bit. It looks like it’s up to high on the forks.
Easy best review of mt09 av seen so far
Man I wish Yamaha would make the mt-09 and actual cross plane “for those who don’t know it actually isn’t a crossplane despite the name” the new tiger 900 is a crossplane triple and it sounds amaaaaazing! It has a sound profile closer to the mt-07 and mt-10
Anything not phased directly inline (flat-plane) is technically cross-planed. A crankshaft plane is a theoretical plane in space where crank-pin centers are aligned, or co-linear. Any pin off that plane creates an intersecting plane, even if just 1°. All triple cylinder engines on the planet are cross-plane, even before manufacturers started calling them that. The only flat-plane triple that existed to my knowledge was the Laverda Jota 1000 (981cc) and even that was converted to the ubiquitous 120° phasing in 1982. Triumph's new Tiger is basically a common 270° parallel twin with an additional cylinder added, phased another 90º ahead of the 270° twin, which is why it sounds so similar to a 270° twin except smoother in tone. From the reviews I've seen, there's a lot of harsh vibration in the upper range of revs. T-plane is the proper theoretical description, and it probably produces some mechanical balance problems. They did it to space torque pulses to the rear wheel unevenly for traction off-road. Common triples are even firing, just like flat-plane inline-4 are even firing and not the best choice for dirt traction.
@@exothermal.sprocket fair points. But ide still like to see this style of triple in more applications. Vibration in high revs isn’t something uncommon for many bikes, twins and in-line 4s, so that wouldn’t be much of a change for many. And the stronger torque delivery along with the sound profile is what ide be looking for. The MT is supposed to be a “master of torque” and this style of triple I believe would only help it earn its name
I'm considering the new MT-09 or a Suzuki Katana 1000. I don't know which I would like best. I want something with a more up-right seating position than my Hayabusa or ZX14R. This was a good review of the Yamaha.
3.2 gallon tank on the Katana. Big downer.
How about the updated GSX-S1000 now with 5 gallon tank? suzukicycles.com/street/2022/gsx-s1000
Go with a Z H2 SE and you will never look back
@@maldridge7630 You will always look back, scanning the mirrors for blue and red lights.
Get mine in 2 days, prefer the looks of the previous gen, but this one is just so much better stock
Really like it but don't like the menu toggle and I use it for a trip meter all the time
I noticed the top half of the fuel gauge is now a single, large bar. I wish my prev gen's gauge was that honest lol
Oh and rear sets no longer mounted to the swingarm pivot, thank you!
Good job.
Very nice! Thank you! Greetings from Russia!
Thanks for the review. Will you suggest this bike for a beginner since there's a D mode 4 as you mentioned?
Don't do it. You'll never be able to resist.
Make your mistakes on a machine with 70hp or lower, it will save your life.
A bike with 100hp + will kill you for a mistake. Trust me 🙏
@@beefquiche not true at all. Lots of people have MT 09 for first bike. It's down to the rider and if you are mature enough to understand the fundamentals of riding. Don't be silly and learn to ease your way into it.
Look on TH-cam lots of videos people reviewing the gen 2 for first bike.
100% dependant on the rider as a 2019 09 owner myself. I cant speak to the D mode since the 19 didn't have that but If you've never saddled up on a bike before, this is A LOT of power for a new rider. You need to be honest with yourself and determine if you can have the self control to allow yourself to gain experience before using the full capabilities of the bike. I know when I was a new rider on a 250, I made simple mistakes that were not even intentional that would have thrown me off of the 09 if I had it then. Self control aside, do not underestimate the value if experience either. There are argument for both sides but you just need to be honest with yourself for your own safety. Wish you luck
It's financially and logically irresponsible to start on an MT-09. You'll probably knock it over and damage it (better off on a smaller lighter bike that's used and isn't going to cost a lot to fix). You'll invariably hinder your growth process learning the art of riding, due to every input on the motorcycle resulting in way more output than is optimal for learning. The power is way above your head. The braking force is way above your head. The handling, although light, is still much heavier than a bicycle and is going to be much more of a handful than a small 300-400cc motorcycle.
Your first bike is not your last bike. Buy used, get a small displacement twin. Learn the controls, handling, get the muscle memory. When you knock it over, the scratches or dents won't cause you to have a heart attack or bust your bank account.
Spend the money on quality riding gear. Also realize the riding gear isn't going to be or last gear. Spend money on training or courses. Consider the cost of gear, insurance, a rider course, other factors and stop focusing so much on horsepower and "grown up thrills". You might not even like motorcycles, come to find out. That would be an expensive 10 grand experience (and that's just the bike, not the insurance, tires, protective gear, training, etc).
Teenagers usually are getting their first car-driving experience, getting their driver's license. The Yamaha MT-09 is equivalent to putting that teenager into a Corvette ZR1. Not wise.
@@beefquiche Actually I don't think so...those who start small, become excellent and over-confident, when they switch to powerful bike the results are not good...start off with a big bike, go through the whole teething process and you become a much safer and better rider.
I started with Ninja 1000, was scared to death...in about 6 months became confident enough to go in group rides and more than a year became natural at it...and I am a quick/fast rider...
Yeah, 89 foot-pound of torque, 89 newton-metre, whatever. Gosh, man, I wish the imperial system would just die.
Is that the Ortega highway? Coming to Elsinore from Orange County?
Can we swap the headlight
Sounds amazing
Wish they put the cruise on this like on the SP. Can it be retrofitted to this bike or not?
I completely agree, personally I'm struggling between the two models. Would like to know if you get an answer on this!
@@Jimmylondon15 get the SP, never ever pass up an opportunity to get Ohlins.
No. The switchgear is different. Perhaps the capability is there in the ECU and needs to be switched on, but you need the left-handlebard switchgear to activate it. Wiring harness would be slightly different.
Is the gearbox silky smooth like a honda or the usual yamaha notchy shifts?
So smooth
Is the throttle switchiness fixed?
Might get the sp in the next week
How eazy does this on wheelie compared to second generation?
What top speed? And, in your opinion, is more strong than previous model?
It’s like 144mph
It's 240~245 kph
Is it smoother and no longer jerky in low speeds while crawling in traffic?
Yes
The headlight kills me though. At this point I rank this headlight last, the 2014/2015 headlight second, and the 2017-2019ish headlight first. Idk what they were thinking with this headlight. Instant turn off. I can't buy this as an upgrade from my 2014 MT-09. Will wait to see what the next gen brings, or just go for a 2019 if I'm getting antsy. Great video though, and was still good to see everything else on the bike.
Best gen 3 review to date, thanks Dude makes me want to trade in my gen 2 for one
You should.
Keep your gen2 man.....
I've been considering one but since I have been riding liter bikes for 20 years, I really don't want to down grade on power. I am highly considering the GSX S1000.
Get katana, looks better imo
I wonder why you didn't choose the sp version.
Nothing against the front end except it just looks like a plastic bucket. Less plastic with the same look would be a million times better. Right now you have a random molded plastic object and a bulb. Super weird. The plastic makes it look weird, not the bulb.
I don’t like the color options. I had a 2014 with purple rims which I miss!
One day we will get this in Japan
Inverted KYB front fork would be good on the MT07
downward exhaust......what if the road is unpaved?
Nice bike.. but still i love my XSR 900..
I wonder if you can put the Speedo on the 2018 model
Wiring harness would prove to be entirely different. Also with all the feedback from the new ECU, the data shown in the new 2021 model, nothing would be compatible.
lovin my MT09SP 2023, much more fun at legal speeds than my R6
Hello I’m also from Colorado but my question is I’m looking for a sporty type bike but I’m 5’6 155 pounds do you think this bike is too tall for me?
no you'll be good
The MT-07 may fit you better. But the Triumph Trident 660 is a much better bike
I am 5'7 155 pounds too, the MT09 is a perfect height with my feet flat and is definitely light enough, really easy to drive, easier than my Tracer 700 as seat slightly lower.
Great review. Definitely opened my eyes to what Yamaha has to offer.
I like the 3 cylinder motor
Great review... well done