Why Internet Access Is Slow And Costly In The U.S.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 พ.ค. 2024
- People in the U.S. frequently pay more for slower internet service than people abroad, according to a report from the Open Technology Institute. Lawmakers in Washington are attempting to address the high price of internet service, as well as the lack of access for many low income families, by deeming internet access infrastructure. Here's why high speed internet is so expensive in the U.S., why so many Americans struggle to gain access and what policymakers can do about it.''
Chapters
0:00 - Introduction
1:55 - Prices
4:22 - Economic impact
6:39 - Lack of competition
9:54 - Solutions
A chunk of Americans are having trouble accessing the internet, even as online access becomes more integral to everyday life.
A survey conducted earlier this year by the Pew Research Center found that 7% of Americans lack access to reliable broadband. One reason for this may be how expensive internet access is in the U.S.
“People in the U.S. pay more for slower internet than people abroad,” Open Technology Institute policy analyst Claire Park said. “For many consumers, the cost of getting online right now is simply too high and also too complicated.”
The Open Technology Institute has been studying the price and speed of internet services advertised within the United States as well as abroad. Its 2020 Cost of Connectivity Report found that the average advertised monthly cost of internet in the U.S. is $68.38, which is higher than the average price of internet access for all of North America, Europe and Asia.
Outdated infrastructure in the U.S. may also be impeding internet access to millions of Americans, and lawmakers have been debating how to increase internet availability and performance.
The U.S. Senate passed the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act in August, which includes $65 billion dollars to expand high-speed internet access. The legislation introduces policies that are meant to encourage competition among providers, increase transparency about pricing and upgrade broadband infrastructure.
While the legislation easily passed the Senate, it hit some snags in the Democratic-controlled House. The vote has been pushed back several times as Democrats hammer out details on the wider bill.
To be sure, greater internet access could boost U.S. economic growth. A report published in April by Deloitte found that a 10 percentage point increase in broadband access could have resulted in more than 875,000 additional U.S. jobs in 2014 as well as $186 billion more in economic output in 2019.
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Why Internet Access Is Slow And Costly In The U.S.
I truly laughed out loud when the reporter said that Comcast (CNBC's parent company) did not respond to requests for comment on this piece. That says A LOT right there!
I guess it doesn't have enough bandwidth to respond
At least they called them out in their lack of response.
@@descentplayer They are actually ethically required by code to say that
🤣🤣🤣
“ our mom doesnt wanna talk”
Props to whoever made this video for acknowledging that Comcast is one the causes of monopoly
What? How can you name Comcast without including the government entities that handed them terms they never should have?
We expect companies to try for their best deal. Obviously, you do. It’s the government officials who took oaths that are supposed to keep the companies from getting protected from competition.
Who is the real problem then?
Comcast owns the company that made this video.
Comcast, Disney, and a few other companies have a monopoly on all of American media.
My weiner is like a Comcast bill
It keeps going uppppp......
- regular car reviews
Lol your parent company doesn't respond to a request for comment.
Comcast not responding to CNBC is hilarious, like wtf.
CNBC not realizing they're owned by Comcast
😂😂😂😂😂this is so funnyyyy ✋😂
It shows you how just unserious these reports are. Merely clickbait!
Someone at CNBC will get FIRED by Comcast
Oi
Remember, Comcast is the last ranked regulated utility based on customer satisfaction in the US for the last 6 years going strong.
Source? I'd like to see that when I'm comparison shopping.
according to who any by what metric? Ive seen plenty of services with lower satisfaction ratings. Not that i love Comcast, but atnt always gives me more trouble, a lot of people however people don't have the privilege of having multiple options.
You're always best off comparing locally, since they aren't uniform everywhere where they offer them.
They also impose arbitrary data caps.
Perhaps it's just semantics, but Comcast is *not* a utility and therefore is not regulated as a utility.
True but Cox communications is trying very hard to become number one in not helping anyone. Watch out Comcast, Cox is coming for your number one spot of bad service, high prices, and not giving a crap except when paying dividends.
7:55 Comcast can't be bothered to respond to its own daughter company. Sounds about right for an ISP...
@@40fire81 Because they know that nothing will change.
AMERICA OVER THINKING ABOUT ELON MUSK HE IS SAYING SOME WORDS ABOUT TECHNOLOGY AND COLLETING FUNDS. FIRST ELON SEND YOUR INVERTORS TO MOON.
@@40fire81 Despite the chatter Comcast really isn't the root of the problem in all this, they do have low cost plans for low income individuals. $10 a month gets you 50mbps/5 and there are promos that are low cost. At the very least they are not the biggest offender out there. If you have Comcast,Spectrum, etc. You are better off than many Americans because at least you get access to highspeed broadband.
@@dragon.fromindia3235 wtf
Only have Spectrum in my area. Took them a year-and-a-half to fix a problem. I told them, if there was a competitor, I would leave. This is how it is without competition.
I have AT&T and Comcast. They're experts at not competing.
In Australia if the big internet companies get lazy other new internet companies will use there grid and and make a cheaper service so the big companies have to be on their toes
AT&T far worse though.. Took them 3 years to fix my problem internet when using Phone ... and it was slow DSL. 15mbps for 49.99 $.. ( this was like 5-7 years ago but still hella expensive).. And they threaten me so they wouldn't have to come told me if problem on my side of line 350$ for technician visit plus parts ...... Plus they have data caps...
@@carlosk8103 as Australian THATS LEGAL IN AMERICA
I live in a rare place in the us with two competing internet companies with gigabit internet
They limit speeds on purpose to sell more expensive packaged with higher speeds.
True the technology can easily provide maximum speed for everyone, they just want to maximize their profits
Data caps too, which cost them like nothing. My ISP let's people pay $50 extra for unlimited data cap, but if u consistently use over 4tb every month, they can even threaten to kick u off their service.
From my knowledge the infrastructure in the US is just bad. The ISP’s have taken grants to upgrade it but have done more or less nothing. It’s similar in Australia.
@@ro0ster648 I pay in Romania 7$/month and I get unlimited acces at 100Mb/sec. And it's normal over here. Most people have 300Mb/sec. Some have Gigabyte internet. And for mobile we already have 5G in big cities.
American internet is just medieval and it's not even funny.
@@popcornsniper 🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯 (shocked)
As a professional working for a smaller municipality trying to solve this problem for our community and the rural areas around us, I can tell you that the solution is the underlying physical infrastructure. The government (or 3rd party separate from the ISP) should own the conduit and poles or provide open access to any and all ISPs for fiber. The construction of poles/conduit is like 80% of the cost. Eliminating that cost or spreading that cost across multiple ISPs encourages competition. The problem is that once a single ISP builds that infrastructure to a neighborhood, the cost for the 2nd ISP is the same as the 1st but the potential customers is smaller due to the incumbent provider. So there is no incentive for competition. If the infrastructure was built out and a competitor only had to lease the pole or conduit at a reasonable cost, they could provide service nearly instantly and at low cost to an area. It would also reduce the cost of that infrastructure as lease deals across multiple IPS would cover the cost of a single piece of infrastructure vs multiple separate pieces of infrastructure for each ISP.
sounds good... but then internet content censorship begins, imagine the gov handling an ISP.
@@fci2023 It doesn't necessarily mean the government is the ISP. You would still have all the same ISPs you have today but they share a common physical path. It's like government builds the roads but private sector uses them. Government builds the poles and conduit but private sector installs the fiber for the homes/businesses.
The problem then is that the public has to pay for the infrastructure. People love to say "the government should" but neglect to account for the fact that the public is obscenely cheap. The US is a country where the overwhelming majority of the federal government's tax revenue comes from a quarter of the tax units and people making up the other three quarters of the population that account for near as makes no difference nothing still feel comfortable loudly complaining that they pay too much.
@@BTrain-is8ch Couldn't agree more. That's why the ISPs should lease the infrastructure from the government. Similar to how municipal water works. The government builds out ensures everyone has equal access to water, but then charges appropriate to the costs. There are private utility models that work too. The point is separating the infrastructure from the actual internet service to promote competition rather than government control. In the end the public pays either way. You pay higher prices and poorer service due to monopolistic behavior or the government gets involved in some way. If it's price regulation, then you deal with lack of innovation. Or you can do public infrastructure projects (the one thing the government is not completely terrible at) and then encourage private sector competition utilizing that infrastructure. We pay one way or the other. Either high prices, low innovation, or shared taxes. Pick your evil but you only get one.
This is what NZ does. Internet is fast and there are many ISPs to choose from.
CNBC: Dad, are u monopolizing the Internet market?
Comcast: ...
What frustrates me about this country is so many things are fixable but it’s always stonewalled. Think of the skills gap that could be filled just by having reliable internet. We could fill so many more jobs.
Starlink is coming...
@@nocrtname I know. I’m thankful for Musk on that. Rural texas is waiting
@@txbre8758 The US really needs to fix its government, which is pretty broken. Gerrymandering has assured low voter engagement and turnout, as most federal seats are safe for one party or the other. That means Congress can effectively ignore their voters, and instead focus on pleasing the corporates who donate to their reelection campaigns. They build long relationships with representatives and senators who stay in seat for decades, and find plenty of dirt on them to keep them in line. Anyone who crosses the aisle is vilified and primaried, and since the seat is 'safe', the party is able to put someone who will hold ranks in place.
We need to:
1. Enact term limits for Congress (8 or 12 years for a rep, 12 for a senator should be more than enough. We'll get a lot of people who want to get something done before their term limit kicks in).
2. Stop gerrymandering the districts, set a limit and let a computer determine if it's gerrymandered or not, and then let everyone play by the same rules.
and 3. remove corporate donations to election campaigns and lobbying of elected officials. Just pass a law and make it illegal.
Then things will quickly move in the right direction.
your country cares more about creating wars everywhere. creating terrorist organizations everywhere. trying to topple down democratic governments because they dont like it. then actually fixing their country. they all claim that america is the greatest nation on earth. yet it got a C- when it comes to inrastructure. it got the highest homeless crisis of any developed nation. it doesnt have a good functioning social system like we have in europe. it doesnt have universal health care payed maternity and paternity leave or payed sick days like the rest of the developed world have. Point is your government dont care for their people or the country. there is only 1 group they care for and that is the zionists that they love to be a puppet from. you need 4.5+ trillion dollars by 2025 to fix the most important infrastructure problems. but thats never going to happen. so in other words your country will go down to crap even more every single day. and you will never have good internet for a decent price. on top of that you still have a data cap in america. which is something we dont have anymore (in the netherlands where i live) since 2000. so yeah i feel for you for not having good internet. they really should fix that. but it most likely will not happen in a long long time
@@nocrtname starlink is extremely expensive and extremely crappy. in the Netherlands we can get that as well. cost 658 euros in total. 99 euros per month for 30Mbps down and 6Mbps Up. 499 euros to get the dish and everything and 60 euros to get it up and running. on top of that we get a 150GB per month data cap. for a country like the netherlands its not needed. we have the best fiberoptic infrastructure in the world. but i can see some scenarios where this can be useful. but to pay that much for still crappy internet is just bs
Simple, when you have a legal monopoly in certain areas there is no reason to invest in the system. Raising price is simple because what choice do most people like myself actually have?
You can thank your local government
@@jamess3109 Indeed!
Cell phone prices in the US have always struck me as exhorbitant. In Ireland, I get unlimited (80GB soft cap) data and unlimited calls and texts for €13/month (roughly $16).
I get 2GB data with unlimited calling and 100 SMS in $8 for 3 months
vodafone here gives 4gb/day, free calls, and unlimited sms for $3.3
Challenge in the US is the cost of covering the millions of miles/kilometers of rural communities, which cost the companies significantly more to service than they make from them. So everyone in cities or suburbs pays a higher price to cover the rest of the country. Plus a hefty mark-up. So some legit issues, some greed issues.
That would be $200-$300 in canada
@@scottfike6649 yes theres distance but alot of it is b.s its the fact they can charge high same thing in canada with our triopoly
What about the summer of love? When the ISP's came together and decided who gets what region and then decided not to encroach on one another's areas.
Not in my small growing city. We've got 3 ISPs.
@@robertlee8805 I've got crappy overpriced spectrum or dial-up.
in Australia we have ALL ISP's available to ALL houses at a minimum of 12MB/s up to a maximum of 1GB/s and there are some debating that it's worth the cost, even though it's only costing us $49 per month Australian for the 12MB/s on wireless all the way up to $200 per month for 1GB/s on fiber optics.
America, your country is no longer modern, it is falling behind the rest of the world and dropping to the levels of 3rd world countries... my thoughts and prayers go out to you.
@@HappyfoxBiz you sure bro? My wireless is only $49.99 for 500MB speed here in Florida.
@@HappyfoxBiz 1 GBPS? Biatch please, my house has had 2 GBPS internet for a while now for $100/month so know your role Kangaroo hugger, Australia is like a 60 yr old woman, everyone knows it's down there but nobody cares
Having lived in Seoul spoiled me, internet was fast and cheap. Living in AZ now and the internet in my area drops and slows all the time.
Here in Nairobi, Kenya (Africa) the internet speeds are phenomenal..Among the fastest in the world....Comparable to what you would get in the UK or other European countries
plz dont mention the country first, US people can have a heart attack on knowing that africa can also have internet😂
I concur the internet speeds in Kenya are very fast. While in Nairobi, Mombasa, and Malindi I conducted speed tests and have the screenshots as proof. Safaricom keep doing what you all are doing. :-)
i see that you live in nairobi? average speed in 2021 in nairobi was 21.79 Mbps. thats slow. almost impossible to get those speeds in the netherlands where i live. slowest internet connection here is about 50Mbps. Eldoret got the fastest fixed broadband speed of kenya with 23.68 Mbps. so i dont know why you call yoru internet among the fastest in the world. because thats simply not true. you rank is about 150 in the world. what you do have is faster mobile internet then america on average. so i dont know why you claim you have among the fastest average internet speed in the world. most european countries if not all offer 1Gbps connections (1000Mbps). I have not seen any providers in Kenya that offer such speed. but correct me if i am wrong though. in the netherlands i my self have 1000Mbps or 1Gbps.
@@metalvideos1961 Its been confirmed by foreigners that have posted here that it is true....Seeing is believing. I lived in the UK for 8 years and was using Virgin Media Broadband..When I compare speeds, yes we are among the fastest in the world..It that annoys you then go on hunger strike. Read the replies to my previous previous comment on the same.
If it is too expensive, a factor in that is many ISPs are controlled by media conglomerates. Especially many that have cable TV options. So "cutting the cable" is still feeding that same company.
at least in india we have considerably good speed with cheapest rates
Considerably good speeds do not cut it in the US. With the amount of cell phones, smart TVs, smart devices, smart home appliances, etc. way faster speeds are needed. I have Gigabit internet at my home and have about 50 devices connected to the internet. Unfortunately, the capacity of Internet that I have in my area is way higher than what people get in other areas of the US.
@@thejwviolinist a side bar question- is that healthy? I'm mean yay development but to what level?? I went to one of these "smart" homes and my friend was showing off, how he can switch off the lights from his phone. Even though the switch for the light, was literally next to him.
@@thejwviolinist i live in Prayagraj and i have 1gbps connection with static ip from a local isp.
The scenario has changed a lot after jio dude.
@@pranshuanand4560 It can be very helpful to have smart appliances at home. Let's say you running late and are rushing to get out of the house. In my house, everyone uses the garage door as the "main door" of the house. So I can tell Google to open my garage door, turn all the lights off and tune down the thermostat all at once (while I'm putting my socks and shoes on) and BOOM, literally something that would have slowed me down from leaving the house has become a nonissue. Or even when I'm going to sleep, I tell Google goodnight, and it automatically set my alarm for the next morning, turns all the lights off, locks the doors of the house, and sets my alarm system to armed--all of that with just one tiny command. You might think that these things will make a human lazier, but it really just makes time for more important things.
@@d_techterminal That's good to know. At least India is getting somewhere with Internet now. Now it's just a matter of how available it is to the population and how many people can actually pay for it. I've heard good things about Jio, so whatever they're doing must be working!
for a capitalist society, US seems to have some serious monopoly in come of its industries.
Monopolies are a form of runaway capitalism. The problem is that these companies lobby politicians to enact confusing regulations that bar any competitors.
@@danielsteel9757 huh? No only did you contradict yourself, your argument makes no sense.
Do you have any idea what a monopoly is? All I can tell you is that I have 5 choices for internet, and that includes Starlink. Two weeks ago comcast ran a new fibre optic cable down my median in front of my house. Now I have 2 cable options. Anyhow a monopoly is when one major company is the only choice. Bell Telephone System was a monopoly until the Government broke up their monopoly in 1984
@@fauxque5057 hey chief, there’s many places in the US where there’s only one major internet provider in an area. Up until two months ago, the only “options” I had were Spectrum Internet or dial-up, the latter of which isn’t really an option, since it sucks. So go on, please tell me more about how there’s no regional monopolies.
@@LaniakeaDenizen Monopolies exist in capitalism but only continue to exist thanks to government.
"Government" also voted to hamstring antitrust law and prosecution of such. Our representatives voted to undermine our system in favor of monopolies, who contribute to their campaigns.
Back in the '90s, when we had dial-up internet, you had many ISPs to choose from, but now with broadband you don't have choices anymore.
Its really a government decision to make access for other ISPs or not. I bet the lobby has DEEP pockets and the average customer pays the price.
Remember AOL
We have a local telecom service that keeps Time Warner err... Spectrum in check.
Did anyone stop and think that these ISP's are more than likely
reducing their bandwidth speeds intentionally forcing citizens to purchase their cable packages.
Money is delicious.
I pick my speed based on what I want to pay. 100mb a sec is fast enough for me, and I consider it a bargain for what I'm paying
I have wondered if they were doing that to people who don’t buy their cable packages. Nothing ISPs do surprise me to give consumers a poorer product at a higher price
What do you mean? You can always test the speed, if you are not getting the speed you were promised, call them and sue.
Meanwhile in Finland, I live by dirt road 15 miles from closest town of 3000 people and 35 miles from local central city of 20 000 people.
And have 100 mbps service via fiber for 30 eur a month. Bit of socialisim isn't always a bad thing :)
Shhh they will accuse you of communism or something 😂
Yeah and your gasoline is $8 a gallon.
@@cleverusernamecl5532 True.
If those high taxes from fuel, cars and electricity would go into infrastructure itself, I'd be fine with it, but they're grossly overtaxed considering the amount our government invests in them.
@@cleverusernamecl5532 Do people in Finland drive as much as Americans though? I mean, most of us in the US have to drive 30 minutes just to get to work. If the gas in more, but they drive less and pay less for services, it seems to me it would balance out. Just a thought.
@@ajspice Yes, actually we do drive a lot more than most europeans. 15-40 min drive to work is pretty typical.
Finnish population density in only half of USA (18 vs. 36), as we're just 5,5 million people in an area same size of UK, which has 68 million people.
Because of this, public transport outside 3 largest cities in Finland is also very poor to nonexistent, unlike in most of Europe.
I own a small ISP. Everything they're saying is true. It is so hard to compete with the big boys. If there were grants for smaller companies the wheels would turn.
@blake christenson where is your company located?
@@mikeaskme3530 dude you've ask the wrong question and no answer see
@blake christenson yup totally understand
There are more lobbyists than politicians now. Get them out of D.C.
In my country in Eastern Europe, my internet speed is 300mbs! And my operator also has option for 600mbs and even higher! And i pay 55 local currency which is about 30$! The download speed shown in the video is 60mbs and also 3mbs like it used to be normal years ago. That’s insane!
Why do you need 300mbs in a home? And 60 mbs download speed 😮. It makes sense for a small business
Im from India, my broadband internet charge per month is 500 rupees (6 USD), I get unlimited internet at 20 mbs
I also have data plans for phone - unlimited calls and 2 gb data per day in my 4g phone for one month at 300 rupees (3.61 usd). Next time im buying 5g phone
Big corporate oligopolies like Comcast, Time Warner, RCN is the issue. Save you 10 minutes
Short answer: Because ISPs can make money off of it.
The ISP's should fall under the Public Utility Commission and their laws.
Internet is no longer (and has not been for some time now) an optional / luxury utility.
The problem in some areas is ISPs are regulated by the Public Utility Commission. A state PUC is who picks the monopoly and charges the monopoly a franchise fee, which gets passed on to the consumer but doesn't accomplish anything but prohibit competition. They still don't force investment or require a minimum standard of service.
No! Did you watch the video? Competition is the best way to improve service and lower costs. We need to foster choice for more Americans which can also include new technologies like 5G which doesn’t require laying cables. When you say it’s a public utility you pretty much guarantee we’ll be stuck with the level of service we have now forever
@@IStillLikeIke - competition does NOT WORK as the cost to duplicate existing networks is very high
I remember when 1.5 Mbs was fast.
My first modem was 33k. When I replaced that for one which did 56K I was amazed.
@@Gambit771 flashback of AOL dial tone.... LOL
From 56K to DSL. Those sure were luxurious times.
@@Chaser4906 I'm in the UK so never used aol but getting the free 500hr cd's in magazines or diallers to connect to in newspapers that lead to the screeching connecting tone.
Even when it was at 10p a minute in some cases I still get a positive nostalgic feeling whenever I hear it
@@Gambit771 🤣👍🏻 I remember when I need to download a small file for half an hour and it's consider fast in the past
Their average price data is COMPLETELY wrong. I love in a "village" in Hong Kong with only one possible provider and I pay just under 40 USD/month for 100mbps (the highest possible where I am). In the VAST majority of homes you can get 1gbps for under 20 USD/month. Where on earth did they get 150$/month??? The only possible explanation is that they confused HKD with USD (150hkd ~ 20usd)... Maybe not such a great source of economics news...
Always all about keeping their Stocks up.
Home internet in the USA is slow because the ISPs impose ridiculous bandwidth caps. I switched from Frontier to Spectrum because I was getting faster download speeds over AT&T cellular in my house, than I was getting with my wired fiber connection from Frontier (they capped us at 100mbps for $60 and to get anything faster they wanted us to pay $100/month)
We pay €40 for 1Gbit but it took like 20+ years to get there. I remember paying 100€ for 1mbit way back…
USA: Tech companies are monopolies, we should regulate them.
Also USA: Yeah we are fine with Comcast being monopoly.
I’m super happy I live in a small town in SoCal and we have fast internet and less congestion on the wired and cell network.
Plot twist: This video was supposed to be uploaded yesterday, but the upload speed was too slow.
when the government pays for internet as an infrastructure, what a joke, but the companies take the money and borrow even more and pay themselves fabulous salaries.
Meanwhile, in India JIO has revolutionised the Internet.
100mbs at $11 with unlimited data that too with fibre optics cable, which means no speed fluctuation.
And same goes for cellular connections we are getting data packs with a daily limit of 2GB or 3GB.
5 years ago that was the monthly limit.
I live about an hour north of Manila, Philippines. The average cost for fiber (45 mbps down/ 25 mbps up) is $30 USD per month.
The same speed in india will cost 5-6USD
That's way too expensive
The country which is the originator of the Internet is being embarrassed by other countries when it comes to Internat services is just a truth that each and every American needs to accept.
Not only does Europe have affortable broadband, some countries also have very affortable mobile broadband (3G, 4G, 5G). Here in Finland it's unlimited, nationwide and essentially can also be used as a replacement to regular (wired) broadband. Everyone has good access to the Internet everywhere, that hasn't been an issue for many many years. The mobile plans also allow generous usage (free of charge) in other EU countries as well when visiting them.
The United States should focus solely on building their country instead of being nosy.(interfering in others affairs.)
God if only.
@@rafterscott what do u mean?
@@longshengpeh978 Speaking as someone from the US, I think about just HOW MUCH money has been spent in being (as you put it) nosy. Estimates of the Afghan/Iraq war alone is about 5.8 trillion dollars US. Imagine if at least some of that was allocated towards internal growth.
They care more on getting Internet in Afghanistan
No kidding! we are still stuck on pushing our views on every other country, and bickering about basic services and abortion in the US. Our schools and infrastructure sucking surprises nobody, and it will not end until the boomers are either dead or too senile to vote... So another 20 years of this BS
Spectrum is the best and never let me down, working from home for about 2 years and I do a lot of gaming online and never had a problem, and I live in the hood lol
Separate ownership of the physical infrastructure from service delivery. This would allow service providers to compete anywhere they want and the only way to grow revenue from infrastructure would be to expand the network to more customers.
This really reminds me of the railroad tycoons back in the 1800s before track sizing was standardized. It’s the same problem, with the same greedy tycoons.
I pay US$ 18.00 a month for 400 mbps down / 200 mbps up, no data cap, here in Brazil.
Wow…I’m paying $75 a month for 100 mbps down in the US
@@TheMrDamp Here competition is fierce, there's at least 4 companies offering services where I live.
@@LeoVines that’s great! Wish it was like that most places
I pay $120 for 500 Mbps down, 20mbps up, with 1.25tb data cap. No data cap is $50 more 😭😭
@@ro0ster648 I pay 115 for 1 gig
Starlink and 5g ISPs can't come fast enough. We need competition.
don't be delusional. starlink and 5g are not replacements for proper gigabit
I love in bumfuck nowhere, "proper" internet isn't on the table. All I've got out here is LTE/5G plans with ridiculous data caps. Starlink would be huge here.
@@ironeleven Absolutely, and I think Starlink has the potential to exceed the capabilities of traditional ISPs, since light travels faster in a vacuum. Rural users of Starlink could get some pretty stellar internet. I think what isn't yet in place, is the satellites don't all communicate with each other via lasers yet, instead they are using substations a lot right now.
And Fiber.
It’s because ISP’s have little to no competition in the markets they compete in which means they can charge whatever they want. And these same ISP’s pay off politicians so there is no competition.
Ah, so you blame the companies. I blame the politicians. I expect some of the companies to cheat, and I demand the politicians do their job to prevent the cheating.
I feel lonely though, and I’m often out voted.
@@nunyabidness3075 I agree with you! I hope you wouldnt have to feel lonely tho :(
As a Swede, I find these numbers somewhat astonishing. My unlimited 1Gbit fiber/LAN is 20 USD/month. My cell plan is about the same, but that's just because a) I'm too lazy to switch and b) my carrier (Telia) is one the biggest (and oldest) in Sweden, and they have by far the best 3G/4G/5G cell/mobile internet carriage across Sweden including quite a bit out at sea from the coast.
I can't imagine paying 20 usd for internet 😂 Im from India, my broadband internet charge per month is 500 rupees (6 USD), I get unlimited internet at 20 MP per second speed.
I also have data plans for phone - unlimited calls and 2 gb data per day in my 4g phone for one month at 300 rupees (3.61 usd). Next time im buying 5g phone
I was having internet issue and this video shows up and then I remember I don't even live in US.
I live in the UK, and to me regulation has a big part to play, we do have a lot of competition, mainly through regulation requirements I mean BT do own the entire network but give internet to smaller providers. And prices have only been getting lower and lower over the years, internet speeds are also getting better.
This guy gets it
i love this video and whoever made this, they are brutally honest 😩👍
Watching this on a Fibre internet plan of about 8$/month (50mbps) might be slow as per US standards but still does the job for me! We can get up to 150mbps under 20$. Competition is really the key, apart from big players we have hundreds of local ISPs that helps keep the prices in check and offer services where big players are yet to come!
I always knew the large land mass to be inexcusable. Why is internet slower in the metropolitan area, then? Compare NYC internet to Tokyo or Seoul internet.
Seoul has like, 3 competing companies for that for most areas. for rual areas, one of the companies (the national owned one) is obligated to provide service cheaply.
Meanwhile, Elon at SpaceX is spending billions in private funds setting up the Starlink network. Starlink FTW.
When you say spending you mean they still haven't found investors yet right?
Starlink has horrible service, look at the tons of videos on TH-cam about it. Anything blocking the line of sight for the satellite, boom crap connection
@@Twinturbo120 ... which is why its still in beta. RN there are only like 2-3 satilites that you can see at a time.
Well if it works it’ll change everything google already failed so now they know what to look out for
Utterly crazy idea that cannot deliver competitive performance at a profit.
Spectrum (owned by Charter) found a way to avoid bringing service to my area, which is only 1 mile from their closest hub. Many other houses could be added along the way, too. Instead, they refused to do any work. Knowing that they could throw any $ amount up as a block, I would be charged $80,000 as my share in the run and that didn't include installation or even a plan. Their lawyers played along with this game and refused to discuss it further. FCC was absolutely zero help. Can't imagine what "service" I would receive other than getting the shaft.
In Thailand, broadband internet based on Fiber optic system is so fast and so cheap. And, there is no monopoly issue as seen in the US.
I think competition will come from above when Starlink is available to the average consumer. I also think it is funny that I pay $$$$ for a 400 megabit service and Comcast is not required to guarantee that speed to me. Hmm
I love that people think they will be able to use internet from space.
To download movies sure, to play games or make zoom calls you're dreaming
When you do the math on Starlink you can see it will never be available to the average consumer at the speeds being sensationalized by everyone. There are too many people and not enough frequency space, physics get in the way unfortunately.
@@janeblogs324 We've done VoIP over Starlink and it works fine, no issues with gaming either. The issues come when the customer base is scaled up.
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@@janeblogs324 ……really stupid thinking, huh!?
Lol I used to work for Spectrum and we laughed at our customers. The internet should be regulated as infrastructure but it’s not. So we can do whatever we like to you since we are a monopoly. I used to literally tell people on calls that we are a private business and we reserve the right to refuse service and we were refusing to install service at their property even if they were in our coverage area. They slowly understood that they have 0 options when the reality that we are a monopoly sunk in.
The problem is that we get all of the downsides of regulation without the benefits. Monopolies are enforced because zoning rules won't allow new companies to dig and add in lines. It's even difficult (6 months process) for existing companies to add new lines.
The sad part is spectrum employees are paid garbage money in my state (like 8.50$ an hour). Monopolies hurt EVERYONE.
@@angelgjr1999 I agree with your comment, but I do not see how that relates to them paying their employees so little since they don’t have to work for Spectrum - I.e. Spectrum doesn’t have a monopoly on employment.
@@teddysmith8725 not true
@@angelgjr1999 I got paid $20 at the call center.
I like how that dude from Parks and recreations became an internet analyst. Cool!
Yes, we need more competition and consumer options for broadband internet! Almost all Americans have one or less choice for wired broadband, we need to change this.
In eastern Europe u can get unlimited 1000Mbps fibre optic for equivalent of 10 bucks per month.
I live in Colombia and have a 300 mbps fiber optic connection, I'm paying around 60 bucks for it. It's sad to see how the US is lagging in such an important service.
it really depends on the carrier and the area. Where I live in the midwest we have options for cable, fiber, DSL, sattelite, and a few 5G providers just started, so our prices and speeds are pretty good. But other cities only have 1 provider and are still in the 1990s. Its rough, and I dont understand how they live lol. I keep debating about upgrading my internet package to 1gbps as it is available now... but honestly not sure what I would use it for as I barely tuch the full bandwidth of 500mbps for internet traffic... can't wait to upgrade to 10gbps in the house though... the home network gets hit heavier than the internet does.
1Gbps fiber optic w/ no date cap for about $100 a month in the USA.
Cellphone $40 5G unlimited w/ no date cap also.
I live in Republic of Ireland.
I have a mobile phone. This serves me perfectly well for my Internet.
I can watch podcasts on U tube without problems.
For 35 euro a calander month, I have unlimited phone calls to European Union plus U K, both land line and mobile.
I have unlimited texts and Internet to aforementioned places as well.
I do not have a land line or a router for Internet in my house.
They're right about competition being the best solution. My country (UK) has a lot of ISPs and has led to much cheaper prices, I pay £21 ($28.53) a month for a 40Mb down / 10Mb up no bandwidth cap service which is fine for my needs.
me myself stuck with spectrum. no other provider here. first year: 49.99 second year: 64.99 third year: 79.99
Add CAT 8 as a requirement when building all new homes in the bill, plus make it a 2.5 vs 1 gigabit switch when installed.
Cat 8 is pushing the capabilites of copper too much IMO. We should instead require fiber optics for those cases.
Copper twisted pair is rated only up to 100m (328f) tops for 1gig, any decently large building needs fiber
CAT 8 is literally useless lol. dafuq do you want to do with that. CAT6a is fast enough for new houses. CAT 8 is literally BS lol. Cat 6A support up to 10Gbps. no house in america will ever have to worry about getting 10Gbps. thats simply never going to happen. but if you really want to be sure get Cat 7. Cat6a transmitting on 500MHz, while Category 7 cabling utilized a 600Mhz. so Cat 6 would be a little bit better. but 6a and 7 are both more then enough for american home users. way cheaper to buy then Cat 8 cables.
@@metalvideos1961 , Cat8 runs on a different frequency, currently T- Mobile runs on the same frequency and 5cat and 6cat. Higher frequency is better plus it's future proof. I'm getting a cleaner signal now.
@@Gastell0 I agree but for home use, Cat8 is a cleaner signal. Look up at the frequency Cat8 runs on. Then look up T- mobiles 600mhz band. Going to Cat 8 reduces the chance of interference from cellular towers.
Competition is very much required in this sector ,up until arrival of jio in india a single gb of data costed 3 dollars ,after jio in the market for less then 5 dollars we get 2 gb data per day for a month
Really want to see a huge change for the better as far as infrastructure for internet soon
It's worth considering that the installation and maintenance cost for ISPs in a country like the US which is so spread out (especially compared to peers in development level and economic prosperity) is substantially higher, but that doesn't justify the extent to which internet prices are an outlier to comparable countries. The way that speed tiers are grouped to price is fabricated by the ISPs to take advantage of the average consumer not knowing that it's all just the same lines, and they just change a couple numbers to give you new bandwidth that already is usable on their infrastructure. You wouldn't see these practices in a competitive market, but ISPs know that they don't have competition, and ensure that status quo with monopolies at a local level especially in non-cities. The solution to fix this is to encourage competition through some set of policies, or regulate internet access as a utility akin to electricity and water, where they get special regulatory status due to the nature of their infrastructure being more efficient for the citizenry to be run by a single entity in a geographical area, and in return for the monopoly, have tighter restrictions to protect individuals in these controlled markets. How we, the people, can get any policies like these into effect when the people who make and enact policies are direct beneficiaries to the current situation, and are in-general oblivious to the technical aspects relegated to the industry insiders to know that the current situation is ridiculous... I have no answer.
Not true - the cost to provide broadband in the USA is NOT HIGHER.
CNBC: "Why internet speed is slow..."
Call Center Agents: Hold my candle.
The ISPs need nowadays to have at least fiber link packages from 500 Mbps if not 1 Gbps because of how interconnected we are in this modern world. I had 23 Mbps back in 2006, it's straight-up disgraceful to have those speeds in one of the most evolved countries on Earth. I just got the 10 Gbps from my current ISP and is amazing, if we continue to strive to be more interconnected then we need very good internet connection.
WiFi for 16$ a month- unlimited data at 150mbps +Netflix + prime video + Disney+
Mobile data for 8$ for 3months- 1.5gb per day, unlimited calling.
Hello from India
When you only have 2 parties the monopoly just lobby both.
2 is very far from 1, 2 is very close to 5.
Wait until Starlink available everywhere, we’ll have competitions in all of the “monopoly” market
Starlink does not have capacity to change the monopoly. The bandwidth is simply to small for other than rural internet, especially the next few years. Lets see what happens in the future. Bandwidth will be going up significantly (planned up to gigabits), but so will also expectation from the individual custormer.
@@la7dfa ^ This right here is the problem for Starlink. In their beta program it works great. When they scale it up physics gets in the way. Only so many bits can be packed into 1hz, there is simply not enough frequency space to do what Elon has promised. This is not a problem that can be fixed by simply adding more satellites. I will be surprised if they can keep speeds greater that 100Mbps when more customers come online.
@@TofuInc Starlink actually has a buttload of frequencies and bandwidth above 10GHz. That is the advantage of LEO with little to attenuate most frequencies. 10.7-12.7 GHz, 14-14.5 GHz, 17.8-18.55 GHz, 18.8-19.3 GHz, 27.5-29.1 GHz and 29.5-30 GHz.
Lets see if Elon can provide up to 10Gbit sometime in the future. I expect there eventually will be a few different prices depending on speed. It makes sense to offer a cheaper option when the terminal price gets lower.
@@la7dfa That frequency space does not all belong to Starlink, it has to be shared. It's a crowded space. It's not an issue with attenuation, it's and interference issue.
@@TofuInc Actually attenuation due to vapour is an issue above roughly 15GHz. 22GHz is a really bad portion of the spectrum. But I dont know how severe of a problem it is irl. Attenuation can be a few tenths of a dB per kilometer .. But I guess it will be band aggregation, so it will just temporary lower performance.
Regarding shared frequencies, I agree but its oretty big spectrum and relatively small cells.
I enjoy providing internet services to rural areas where big companies are not present. I believe everyone should have access to the internet regardless of where they live.
I live in rural Sweden. Here we have some from the government to build new infrastructure. People go together and form a fiber organization. We build our own access net and we all paid about $2000. It depends on how many houses you are and the distance etc. Our net is hooked on to the main net, usually built by the county. Then some organizations sell their net to a net company, or the organization administers the net.
Then the net is usually opened up for several providers. We had maybe 8-10 different ones. Right now we pay $20/month and I just checked the speed and it was 215 Mbit/second in and 134 out. Surprise that a rich country like the US doesn't have better internet access.
the reason why they dont have better internet is because they find creating wars more important. they literally spend more then 7 trillion on illegal wars in the middle east alone. think about it what they could have done with that 7 trillion. some experts even say that they spend around 13 trillion in the middle east alone. no the federal governmetn of america rather create illegal wars illegal coups fund terrorism and create terrorist organizations. then to spend the tax payers money on the tax payers. for health care schools infrastructure and internet. as you can see the american governmetn dont care. claiming to live in the best country on the planet. yet they have nothing to show for.
The government limits competition in cities which inhibits the markets’s ability to improve efficiency. Then, rural cannot be made economical so government taxes us to create programs to expand rural service. Finally, politicians and bureaucrats take credit for doing something about the problem whether it improves or not.
Regulations discussed in the video will all make the problems worse over time.
"Then, rural cannot be made economical so government taxes us to create programs to expand rural service" but thats always the case.... providing internet to rural areas will always be not economical. and thats literally the pt of taxes. to raise money to do something that is otherwise not economical yet improves quality of life.
@@REIwAlexY I agree on the first only if you mean economical as compared to denser areas. I mean economical in the sense that it’s worth the cost. I also question a lot of the claimed need. If someone is living on a working farm and the market won’t support him at any price, then maybe government should get involved because the market is failing. If I choose to buy a remote cabin to retire to, should you be taxed to get me internet? (That’s actually going on in upstate NY right now).
Your expansive definition of government is quite radical by my standards, though not so much by the modern standard (People have forgotten rather recent lessons of history). I say to only have government intrude when the market has ACTUALLY failed (I don’t care if some people in the US cannot afford kiwi fruit, for instance) or will not work because of misaligned incentives. Then, I insist the government only enter with a well defined plan that includes if and how they will ever exit.
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I live in a town in the UK and I get reliable 35mbps for about $25/ month
I live in Atlanta and only have one choice for Internet, Comcast. That said, I can't really complain. It's reliable and I chose the slowest speed, 50 MBPS which gives me internet at a decent speed for my PC, appliances, Roku Streaming TV and Ooma Phone for $71/mo total. In addition, being an internet customer qualifies me for a cell plan for $14/mo for 1gb data and unlimited calls and texts. So, for $85/mo I have cell phone, home phone, TV (Sling streaming extra) and internet. I'm satisfied with that.
I pay $80/month for gigabit fiber from AT&T in Oklahoma. No data cap. Averages 900mbps both upstream and downstream. Competition does help, as I have two other ISP's that offer gigabit speeds in my neighborhood.
I'm paying 3$ a month for 50mbps unlimited in India XD
3 dollars is 250 rs, may I know which isp are you using?
Bro more like 4$ for 30mbps Jio
It will be interesting to see how Teslas satellite internet service will disrupt this industry once it's fully active.
At $100 a month that does not qualify as cheap access, so I doubt it will affect anything
Dang I didn't know Tesla's emit internet connection 😂
@@fauxque5057 I think they will lower the price once they have all their satellites up. Right now they are probably just trying to recoup some money. Also, $100 a month will be cheap if they get the speeds that they are predicting. I pay $65 a month for 1 gig fiber, I'd gladly pay the $99 if the speed were multiple times faster than my 1 gig connection, sadly it will probably take them 5 years before they have enough satellites to get that sort if speed.
I'm in an Asian country, and my monthly Internet bill is only around $10. It's Wifi, so everyone in my family can use it. We have an Internet TV, 3 phones and a laptop. Sometimes a neighbor or two sneaks in our wifi, too. And it's still running smoothly.
As for outdoor data, with just about $6 a month, you can effectively have unlimited internet access for your phone
a lot of small rural providers used older spec equipment from Hauwei (switches, etc) because that is all they needed and the Western makers stopped making older products.. now they are forced to rip that equipment out and move to more costly Western components
Hwei loosing money on their equipment but GAIN on taking all of our personal data. Everything here in the US is expensive. Mostly.
People in the USA have extraction capitalism, there is no incentive to constantly improve. Work those assets return profits to the rich and wealthy investment class on wall street. With no rules, they only want the cream not to provide service to all.
Rules? I had a great ISP small rural provider supplying many tiny communities until BY LAW he had to provide free stuff, which drove his price above Verison Comcast, Socialism not FREE market kills.
No mention of Starlink??? There’s the competition at high speeds with a price that is decreasing.
The problem with competition in this industry is that the infrastructure is expensive. The cost of entering the market is really high. It’s not a monopoly by any means, it is a oligopoly. Typically in a city you have a coaxial provider and a fiber/DSL provider. Those providers are not available in all 50 states. For example, AT&T is available in CA but not in AZ. I believe the government needs to step in a provide and provide more regulation in this industry in favor for consumers.
Rural fiber is cheap to install. City fiber is more expensive but not by much. The problem is the customer base is fixed, so as more companies enter the market, that customer base gets split and lowers the profits for each company, so instead of super excessive profits, each company has has only huge profits.
Policy makers need to implement affordable low bandwidth internet so everyone can be online and up to date with technology. Currently stake holders will prioritize profit over coverage or speed, they are more likely to jack up your monthly cost yearly, instead of improving comparable service offered in return for the increase of price.
The govt has been talking about this issue for years and nothing has changed. What is rate Regulation - That made me laugh. Good luck with that.
INDIA has the cheapest internet service at a decent speed. Credit goes to AMBANI
India is in the lowest positions in speedtest ranking...
@@IIIShadowX We have average speed and it's ok according to price .
@@IIIShadowX Thats because most people cant afford highspeed internet,
I have a 1gbps connection, paying less than Rs.3000($40).
And Mobile Data is also super cheap here,
30gb/month LTE costs only 250(around $3).
True, but thats also bad, he is killing competition,
Soon he will become a monopoly like comcast and jack up pricing when 5G becomes common.
@@GP-ry8wt there is the same possibility outside of the big cities?
When I lived in the city i payed $115 for gigabit internet, but since ive moved out to the country i now pay $110 for 10 megabit. Big difference, but still a lot better than the previous internet her that was 10-100 kilobit speeds.
I feel almost guilty by paying $7 per month for stable 500 mbps.
We wouldn't have this problem if private companies were not allowed monopolistic control over the telephone lines. In a given area you only have one "choice" for cable and one for phone. So, you could choose between a DSL company and a Cable company if both are in the area, but you cannot choose between two different cable companies because each one gets control over it's own territory. If the telephone lines - which are on public property - were allowed to be used by any company wishing to enter the market it would allow the free market to drive prices down and speeds up.
Granted, there are problems with this idea. Each cable only has limited bandwidth meaning that each new company would have to run it's own wires. Still, that would be an improvement. The reason why I can't get fiber optic internet in my area is because they have to be buried, but the only reason they have to be buried is because the companies that do this don't have permission to run the fiber optic cables along the telephone lines. Another potential problem is maintainance, but that would be easy to solve by requiring each company that wishes to use telephone lines to share in their maintainence costs.
Without the free market, we have monopolies. Monopolies can charge whatever they like unless otherwise regulated and broadband service has never been regulated. So they are allowed to charge whatever they want and your choice is to either have no service or pay what they demand. Beyond price though monopolies are more likely to act with impunity against the interests of the consumer. Everyone has their own story, but suffice to say, the conduct of these companies are characteristic of one who does not believe you can leave. If there's anything we learned these past 2 years it's how vital having stable internet access is, but no matter how much money the government injects into the infrastructure the problem won't really be solved without regulation and/or an elimination of the monopoloy. And we know the government has the authority to act because the entire telephone line system used to be owned by the single phone company that built it.
Even new technologies like 5G won't solve the problem because local companies still own and have a monopoly on the infrastructure meaning that even though this might add some options, it won't really be much of a difference in terms of competition. What we need is for new companies to be able to enter the market using existing infrastructure. Either that or we need sensible regulation, although I'd still prefer the free market took over.
At first, I was laughing at the fact that the internet is so slow and costly in the US, but after watching the video I started to feel for them. All of this, while using 1 Gbps fiber optic, no data cap connection for only $100 a year.
In Australia our internet is $100 100mb unlimited but that’s because we had problems updating our grid and we still have it better than it the US like I can’t believe they don’t have competition between big and small providers
Where is this at
@@kevinblair9025 Bulgaria
1Gbps fiber optic w/ no date cap for about $100 a month in the USA.
Also the the USA minimum wage is $1400 a month compared to 345.00 EUR/ $390 USD in Bulgaria.
@@JuanJohn013 I didn't mention - all taxes included in the final price, unlike the USA where nearly every single price is before applicable taxes.
America needs Jio
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It really is ridiculous how bad and how expensive broadband and mobile data is. S.E. Asia and many places in Europe the cost is a fraction of what we pay in the States and the speed is so much faster. For example, in Romania I can buy a SIM for about $18/mo for nearly unlimited mobile data. I can even roam all over Europe and am capped at 5GB...for $18. Broadband in Romania is even cheaper, unlimited and very fast for about $11/mo.
this is astonishing since here in Kenya we are enjoying high speeds at low prices..
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AT&T Fiber is pretty great and fairly priced as well. Comcast can go straight to hell with their data caps and inconsistent speed.
I pay $30 for xfinity, purchased my own modem router at 15 mbp in a contract . Can’t beat that
We get 130 mbps
Works out about a dollar a megabit for the month. Problem is the speed can fluctuate from 1 to 45 megabits during the month, but our monthly payment stays the same. This is true for 4G LTE and broadband.