@@Travelingisraelinfo I love your content, my mother's been demanding I send her the videos so she can send it. I say long live Israel. But it is long lived. Forever Israel is what I will scream! It's so scary to be pro Israel in these places. My friends were Muslims, now they pose a threat to my physical safety. Not because I am a Jew but because I believe and support the Jews. Every day makes me sad how isolated these communities made me, but it would be sadder to live their narrative. Just no.
What he is doing calling you racist is exactly what the west has been dealing with, the only attack these crazies can plea is to break out their dog whistles with that term
If you call it for what is really happening the algorythm instant deletes your post, basically ill put the flagged words when together in parenthesis they are using the term racist as some kind of trump all logic (Dog) to try to bypass logic appealing to blind bandwagons (Whistle)
Idk how this is relevant since Hasanabi and the other person provided factual evidence countering this propogandists nonsense. If facts is name calling to you then it just shows how far gone you are with the lies that is being fed to you.
i wish people would just ignore hasanabi. He's a spoiled brat with no real life experience that still lives with his parents who continue to spoil him and thats why he has the views that he does
@@Travelingisraelinfo You deserve another coffee, Oren, to have to sit through that one. You did a much better job though refuting them. Keep up the good work. You are doing such an important job.
You are an Israeli Jew, undergrad history major, a tour guide, very well read and informed, and that guy has the arrogance to say you do not understand Judaism well 🤣Please make a part two!
@@mochithepooh5368 gotten with ilan pappe? or someone like him? litterally changing history for the sake of pal narrative? “My bias is apparent despite my peers' desire that I stick to facts and “truth” when reconstructing past realities. I regard such a construction as vain and absurd.” ilan pappé
@@ignaciodiagoabat most mature pro palestinian , im sure $50 is a ton of money to you and you also cant fathom saying something without desiring attention but not everyone is like you my friend
@@RoeJog4n Im making fun of him becuase he is donating money to a guy that defends the burning of children, the raping of woman, the bombing of hospitals and schools, the starvation of millions, the lack of medications for the cancer victims and the elderly, the deliberate striking of REFUEGE camps, the deliberate killing of medical staff, food workers, the illegal occupations in the West Bank, the current raid into the West Bank even tho there is no Hammas, the persecution of independent press, the block of aid coming into Gaza for the starving and homeless population of Gaza since 75%+ of the infrastructure has been blown up for NO REASON. Also, lets not forget to mention the 7th of October every millisecond even tho we have been conducting raids into Gaza for decades, killing dozens and opressing and imprisoning Gaza's without charge, to then probably torture because we are the victims bo ho. There is so much more.
@@RoeJog4n Im making fun of this guy because he just donated 50 bucks to a person that defends the burning of children, the raping of woman, the bombing of hospitals and schools, the starvation of millions, the lack of medications for the cancer victims and the elderly, the deliberate striking of REFUEGE camps, the deliberate killing of medical staff, food workers, the illegal occupations in the West Bank, the current raid into the West Bank even tho there is no Hammas, the persecution of independent press, the block of aid coming into Gaza for the starving and homeless population of Gaza since 75%+ of the infrastructure has been blown up for NO REASON. Also, lets not forget to mention the 7th of October every millisecond even tho we have been conducting raids into Gaza for decades, killing dozens and opressing and imprisoning Gaza's without charge, to then probably torture because we are the victims bo ho. BUT MY COMMENTS KEEP GETTING DELETED, BECAUSE YOUR FRAGILE EGOS MIGHT BE DAMAGED
I remember watching his video because I was open to hearing both sides of the conflict and was curious how a Palestine-supporter would rebuttal Oren’s points in the original video. The whole video was basically just a spaz attack that didn’t address any points and went on about the deir yassin massacre for way too long. Oren is just way smarter, a logical thinker.
I see the same sort of nonsense among creationists. They can talk for hours without communicating any real information and they fail to address direct statements without even noticing the oversight.
Both sides: Arabs against Jews Muslims against Jews 21 Arab countries against Israel 56 Muslim countries against Israel Islam vs. Judaism Shia vs. Sunni Iran vs. Turkey Iran vs. KSA Iran vs. Egypt USSR/Russia vs. USA East vs. West
The discussion in this war is absurd. First. Israel acted selflessly to live in peace with the Palestinians in Gaza. It was more than a decade ago when Israel itself relocated thousands of individuals living in Gaza with lethal force from their homes to follow the agreement, which obligated the Palestinians in return to stop any kind of aggression towards Israel. The Palestinians had the chance to build a safe, functional, and prosperous livelihood. But the first thing the Palestinians did in return was to elect a government that enshrined the goal of destroying Israel in their constitution. The elected government followed through with its promise. Since its founding, thousands of rockets have flown into Israel. Dozens of civilians died in terrorist attacks. Millions of aid funds - intended for civilian purpose - were misused to build rockets, tunnels, and other nonsense. The crimes committed on October 7th like raping women, killing children, or kidnapping a baby, was Humus has been doing for years. Secondly. Israel behaved more humanely in this conflict than any other conceivable party in any imaginable conflict. It allowed Palestinians to work in Israel, receive medical care or even migrate into their country. During war, they warn civilians where their military is operating. They admit collateral damage and apologize for it. They saved Sinwar’s life giving him a lethal brain surgery. They treated the daughter of Haniyyas daughter for her complex disease in Israel. While Humus was building rockets and tunnels with all the foreign aid, Israel supplied their civilians with free water and electricity. The situation is clear. In no other conflict the responsibility for the suffering has been so one sided and clear - in no other conflict have the perpetrators been held accountable so weakly. The same goes for any related conflict: Hezbollah, Houthis, etc…the more peacefully you try to live with them, the more visible their genocidal intents becomes. People with voice and power who claim to reject war have the duty to unequivocally name the culprit of this war and do everything in their power to eliminate them. Everything else is responsibility for the resulting suffering and will extend it.
"“Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves … politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves… The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country. … Behind the terrorism [by the Arabs] is a movement, which though primitive is not devoid of idealism and self sacrifice.”" - David Ben Gurion. Quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky’s Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan’s “Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech. “If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?” David Ben-Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister): Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp121.
I'm an ex-muslim who has actually had to live with muslims, and I wouldn't say anything you said was wrong. Actually, I'd say you weren't harsh enough on them.
Yes that is good for u too say that becuase islam is an bad ideology that can make extremist and its not an religion who is about spirtuality and love for god and people.
For those of us who have spent years watching our Israeli brothers suffer from the hatred in the Palestinian lie, know that we support your efforts wholeheartedly. Keep building your love my friends.
to be regurgitating a minor offence that happened 75 years ago, and seemingly dismiss what is happening today, is a disgrace. where are the supposed martyrs, 30,000 strong, aching to please god.
Legit point though i dint follow hassan more of a destiny viewer so its not personal. Yet being a socialist or having progressive views doesnt mean tou cant be filthy rich?@ChineseMustangs
As a Turkish, I find your comments quite true. I wish they weren’t, but unfortunately they are. Unless the world realizes these facts, we will not be able to produce sustainable solutions.
Thank you for your honesty. It’s appreciated. I feel that we need more voices from the Muslim and Arab communities to educate us and help us to understand the mindset. I believe that understanding the mindset of people is critical to help them successfully, hopefully graciously to question some things without blind acceptance, to adapt to changes and learn to accept constructive criticism.
Mashallah, great comment. My father is a Turkish Jew., and his family was saved by the Turkish embassy in Paris when the Nazis invaded. So anyone who says anything bad about Turks I always come to their defense without them, I wouldn’t be here today.
I have done my own research Oren and you are correct. HasanAbi and Zach Foster are ill informed and very prejudiced. Am Israel chai! And I hope we can meet next year in Jerusalem!
Me too. I have spent almost everyday investigating the two arguments as Oct 7 knocked me around, I was so repulsed by the brutality and cruelty of this attack, I was very emotionally disturbed for quite some time and I can not imagine the trauma which has been inflicted to all those involved as well as all Israelis on that day and every other attack that has happened before that! Before this, I was sympathetic to the Palestinians, due to the media’s narrative and the complete neglect of anyone telling Israel’s story. That changed very quickly. Although I still sympathise with the Palestinians, I have learnt so much about the history and have been blown away at how people have turned on Israel and the hatred directed at Jews around the world. I have learnt so much during this time and it’s so important to never ever believe what you hear, the importance of doing your research, looking at both sides of an argument and the truth will be found. ❤
they are not ill informed, they are ill-informING. they lie on purpose. hasan is on air admitting he is a propagandist on piers morgans. they really quite simply hate jews. antisemitism has proven itself beyond any doubt to be a very real mind disease. these two have it hard. a lot of arabs and muslims sadly do, they are taught upon it. and then they go on lying to millions of gullible westerners about the evil "zionists and jews"
taking other people's land forcefully is what the zionist do thou.. i mean sure it british land but.. if the zionist never requested something like that there will be no conflict, at least not as large as this.
Exactly. I remember him supporting transgenders in women's sports just because he thinks it doesn't matter. I mean it's not that important whether or not a male can kill a female with one punch (sarcasm).
Good reporting, my family had to escape Egypt in 1952 I was 5, my uncles store was burned out in Alexandria, my grandfather had heart attack during fire set in Cairo.This young Muslim knows not what he's talking about. We were refugees in limbo until a country gave us asylum. Further my grandfather's grave was desecrated by Muslims...
Are you Jewish from Alexandria? Can you still speak the Egyptian Arabic Dialect with the Alexandrian Accent??? I have questions about that dialect specifically
@@unisophia yeah I read that part. Uhm, so my assumption is that he left with his parents, and part of this assumption is that his parents still spoke to him.... in their language. My grandfather left Mexico at 17 years old. He went to America. When my grandpa was 18, 19, and so on, he still spoke to his family in Spanish. So just to reiterate my assumption: I assume that even though the Original Commentar left Egypt at 5 years old, I assume he and his parents still spoke in the same language.
I got so mad when I saw that they killed 6 hostages when they realized that they were going to be freed by the Israeli soldiers😢 It is really disgusting...
@@soulwarrior probably as mad as you when hamas pillaged and raped innocent civilians, now my turn for question how mad are you when their elected government cower under and misfire bombs on their own citizens while taking billions sent to them and moving to different country to live lavish lives?
@@soulwarriorPalestinians who would never had died, had it not been for hamas and their atrocities on Oct 7th. War costs innocent people their lives. Hamas started a war. Innocent people are killed. Hamas surprised Pikachu face.
when a person with a doctorate loses his marbles and misrepresents facts to fight against a tour guide? the fact that they need a Historian to fight against a Tour Guide...and still lose in fact and logic... is such an embarrassment to where he got his PhD from.
He also has to give a shit. This Hassan guy has been on mainstream channels spouting his rhetoric for a while now. His followers are very young and impressionable. The need to be better educated by anyone other than Hassan.
the only ones who are racist are the people calling jews "white european colonizers" , they are both racist towards white people (many times themselves) and are antisemetic towards jews , and they are also racist towards arabs , blacks and other ethnicities treating them like children that can do no wrong ...
His is NOT a lack of understating. It is *his totall refusal to accept history* UN has behaved hatefully towards Jews almost from the UN 's beginnings.
I think the fact that the soviet union was part of the leauge of nations that later became the UN is telling alot about the falws of this organization , yes it was needed to fight the nazis but since stalin was also attacked by him they gave him a seat of honor there even though the soviet union was also a dictatorship that opressed people and killed millions of people .
The UN gave Israeli's (the colonial settlers) more than 55% of the Palestinians territory (the indigenous population). I think they like the Jews better than the other group, demonstratably so.
A lot of Arabs say “why did jews get most of the land” and I have 2 answers 1: They didn’t lose wars they didn’t start 2: They didn’t, Arabs also got Jordan
Plus the largest part of what jews got was either desert or swamp. Israelis just made a lot of efforts and invented new technologies to cultivate the land.
It's started when the hellastinians sold thier lands to then jews and then they planted trees and developed the land. The Arabs di the opposite. Not they want it back after the jews did all the hard work.
A lot of jews say "Why are Zionists claiming 'we' agreed to some private corporations doing low-rent company colonies like Israel and using Judaism to get them?"...but obviously, that didn't make your fake list.
Yep but they use the excuse that “it was normal 1400 years ago”. So I’m guessing Muslims would be happy to let their 6 year old daughter get married to a fully grown man.
As a Christian i appreciate your invitation to visit our Holy Sepulchre, unfortunately with your neighbours around its quite dangerous. I wish for the Jewish people the peace they deserve, God bless
Social media is full of guys like these two....they think they are experts...but know nothing. Living in their safe (democratic) countries....spouting nonsense to gain attention.
He is right. You are just spouting propaganda. You claim this owner of this channel is Semitic.🥴 He has Scandinavian looks with a German accent. But he pretend to be more indigenous than Middle Eastern Palestinians.
Yes, you are right. To get attention is obviously much more important to these guys, than truth is. I also read a lot of history, from all sides, and Oren is so right.Lisbeth
@@AlonzoHarris235fun fact: Jews are native to this land as they are from the Levant, and Arabs are from (you guessed it) the Arab Peninsula and migrated to the region mostly in the past couple hundred years. Oren looks like an Ashkenazi Jew but he's nonetheless Levantine. Just like how there are Palestinians with blonde hair and blue eyes. Your lack of contribution to this discussion or channel shows you're a troll with a lack of hobbies. Hope you get help 😊
@@AlonzoHarris235 You are so ignorant. Oren was born in Israel, same as I. I look very European, but I'm actually only half Ashkenazi. My mom's family are all from Iraq.
Yep, and the fact jihad is broadly defined as struggle for Islam means they will lie their way to position and power in the West, what used to be known as christiandom.
I'm a person of colour, I support you and israel, now as a Jew but as a Christian. You've been honest and factual... What more does a moral person want. Hasanabi is not moral.
Person of... Color? What? Uuh, ok. You know, I'm something of a "person of color" myself. White is a color, is it not? I got chestnut hair and brown eyes. Pretty colorful if you ask me. My grandma was blond and gray eyed. Look how "colorful" my family is.
I’m really sick of hearing the term “Zionist”. Over the course of this conflict it’s gone from a term used to describe a sub-group of Jewish people with a specific set of of beliefs which some find objectionable, to a general negative slur for anyone who disagrees with the Free Palestine movement. It’s just a racially charged insult now. Depressingly regressive discourse.
One of my friends (Irish) has decided not to speak to me anymore because I pointed out the Palestinian lies 😅 maybe with some people, it's better not to discuss it with them
Stay safe man. We appreciate your support but especially on this issue I've seen a fair share of lunatics with hatred so big it will be used against you as well. I've seen a shift of more Ireland support recently (unfortunately also the opposite) so it makes me at least slightly hopeful some people can maybe wake up to actual facts.
@@Jirka-j2gI think he/she meant to refer to the Islamic state as a theocracy (Israel is definitely not a theocracy, and I never want it to become one :P) Sending love from Israel ❤️
The fact that they say that UNRWA was "established after WW2 when the jews faced persecution by Nazi Germany" But then if you go the OFFICIAL website for UNRWA they say: "UNRWA was established by UN General Assembly Resolution 302 (IV) of 8 December 1949 “to carry out […] direct relief and works programmes” for Palestine refugees. The Agency began operations on 1 May 1950." Like can we at least get a point with some real references behind it.
Yay!!! Your videos reached the right people! That dude interviewed a terrorist and got excited that he liked one piece. I was viscerally disgusted. He was seriously excited that they liked the same cartoon. Hitler and I were both vegetarians but you don’t see me celebrating what I have in common with a murderer. That’s the moment I knew that guy was human garbage. Your ability to plainly and simply state facts has helped me grow as a person. I was a pro-palestine supporter until my partner started to gently talk to me about the misinformation I believed. When I found your channel I started absorbing every single video. I felt in my heart that you were telling the truth. I started looking up the facts you so expertly weave in, and over the course of a couple months my mind has been made up and I no longer feel conflicted about my beliefs. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.
When I heard that a teeny tiny small part of me thought that when Hasan spoke to that terrorist that he would get the wake-up call he sorely needed. And then I saw the clips. I was so thoroughly disgusted by that interview. The part about One Piece… like… yes, they are going to like some popular media. That’s not even remotely a surprise. Hitler notoriously loved Snow White despite the fact that she represented everything he was actively destroying (the sweet innocence and compassion)
Dani , don’t know if you know but Oren has a masters I believe in history of the Middle East . I’ll mention here to ask Oren to please talk about what you majored in in college!.
@@avistrelchin2293 Everybody has PHD on "palestinian" history because you only need to know they were formed in the 1960s after meeting between Arafat (an EGYPTIAN) and the KGB
@@detectivemuffler8083 the only difference between them is that one was banned from every social media platform and had all of his assets frozen. The other still shit talks like the leftist he is and isn't punished for spewing disgusting hot takes on twitch.
@@andyghkfilm2287 this is war in which civilians unfortunately die. If you care so much for civilians then demand hamas‘s surrender. They started a war. Can’t cry for them civilians now
@@Zanakiller123 in point of fact, it was actually Israel that violated the ceasefire prior to oct. 7th-but regardless, no amount of violence justifies this response, and you know that.
Yeah your right! How dare these Palestinians opose the burning of children, the raping of woman, the bombing of hospitals and schools, the starvation of millions, the lack of medications for the cancer victims and the elderly, the deliberate striking of REFUEGE camps, the deliberate killing of medical staff, food workers, the illegal occupations in the West Bank, the current raid into the West Bank even tho there is no Hammas, the persecution of independent press, the block of aid coming into Gaza for the starving and homeless population of Gaza since 75%+ of the infrastructure has been blown up for NO REASON. Also, lets not forget to mention the 7th of October every millisecond even tho we have been conducting raids into Gaza for decades, killing dozens and opressing and imprisoning Gaza's without charge, to then probably torture because we are the victims bo ho. There is so much much more, I really do hope you have a change of heart
I went to one “anti-Zionist” rally in college. I didn’t know what Zionism was except from a joke on American Dad. Anyways I went and realized this was more of a hysterical performance than an actual informative rally and so I learned nothing. I appreciate you being armed with facts that are easy to verify my self. I am a Christian but I have a profound love for the Jewish culture and community! I pray for a lasting peace and safety for the people of Israel and the people in Gaza and West Bank that don’t stand with Hamas. I hope to visit Israel with my mother someday!
Thank you I trust your information when I check everything you say and you are correct,. I will check the other guy’s credentials after watching this. From an Australian in Tokyo. On another note I hope to visit Israel one day. I’m not Jewish, I am Catholic, I saw a video where Catholics are spat upon in Israel, is this an isolated incident?
@@SylviaStarbucks This exists, but on very rare occasions, and not in public places. It is mostly entitled youngsters from the Jewish talmudic cults, like the orthodox. They think they are special because they are taught that way by their preachers. They are also detached from the society and the government allows that to be. And this goverment's self position of being right wing, which is fueled by Palestinian terrorism and world wide terrorism support, that gives them this political power. This is another threat Israel faces, but we are confident about solving this issue once and for all after we win this war, and there have already been great progress in this matter. After all it is the secular and traditional Israelis that are moving the country forward, and not the backwards pseudo-right xenophobes. Visit without fear my dear, Israel is a great example of united and diverse society, also is one of the most secure countries to be ( no matter how that sounds conflicting )
It's so rich when they accuse Israel of "dehumanizing" Palestinians. If anything, they dehumanized themselves when they committed the attrocities of Oct. 7th.
That is what I was thinking, too. And I would add that their so called "holy" book that is actually truly vile is rife with dehumanizing non-muslims, but with a special dehumanizing hatred of Jews.
Add to that the fact that their so called "holy" book is rife with dehumanizing content towards Jews and non muslims in general, referring to them as "pigs, monkeys, and " the worst of creatures". The hypocrisy, disingenuousness and outright lies of the mu$lim apologists is astounding.
The World is blind! Seems that the “scales over the Jews eyes,” as stated in The New Testament, is actually blinding The U.N. along with the majority of the world.
Isn’t it scary how any PHd student with a thesis nowadays can alter centuries of history by positing opinion over historical fact? Actually, you don’t even have to have a doctorate…just a TikTok channel…😱
that's a scary thing, esp. nowadays with social media. We see how Arabs created alternative narrative what's going on in Gaza. And yes, PhD nowadays is not degree of one's knowledge, competence, sanity and morality.
Hasan is a muppet, but your statement makes no sense. I’m not American and yet I understand American politics and American history way better than most Americans.
@@eyemallears2647 This is true logically. Yet, it's still audacious what he's spewing because all he uses is wikipedia pages (which is not entirely bad) but they're used in a way that's not rational at all
It is crazy how there are over a ton of Muslim countries and a ton of Arab countries but if we have ONE Jewish country…. End of the world. Unacceptable
Yet, only Israel is an apartheid state. In addition, Israel “claims” to be the only democracy in the region. They are just as much religious fundamentalists as the Arab nations surrounding it.
Muslim loves to victimise themselves. Most of the muslim countries used to be non-muslim countries if you read the history. They invaded those countries and now acting like they are the natives.
תודה רבה לך, אורן! אתה האביר על הסוס הלבן בלהילחם בפרופגנדה של האנטישמים, ואתה עושה זאת בצורה מדהימה, עם כל המקורות ולא משאיר להם מקום לתפוס אותך במה שאתה אומר, תודה!
You support the genocide of a race. It does NOT matter what religion you are, race you are or ethnicity you are to actually allow human beings to have to suffer to this magnitude. Just listen here, imagine you had a baby, and all of a sudden your house gets blown up, your baby gets burned to death by the heat and your familiy too. You get up what remains of ur phone to call someone for help, when you see user-cm2kk2b1t comment on how your ignorant and how the burning of your LIFE is all a LIE
Funny how Hasan Abi’s dissertation would have failed a grade 8 history class. He should be embarrassed to call himself a historian. He seems more like a propagandist for the Iranians.
Nice contradiction David, he's a "propagandist" for the Iranians (Wouldn't he be a propagandist for the Palestinians?) but his history knowledge isn't up to eighth grade... isn't the logical conclusion he's uninformed and manipulated?
1. history classes differ from country to country and i doubt that they teach middle eastern history in asian schools, especially in 8th grade. 2. When did he claim that he is a historian? 3. even israeli historian covered the forced eviction of arabs 4. how is he a propagandist for the iranians exacly ? elaborate
@@muhammadhabibjawady552 It doesn't matter whether an 'Israeli historian' writes about Israeli atrocities... what matters is EVIDENCE (something very few people understand). If people are right when they accuse their own of wrongdoing, what would you make of the entire ex-Muslim movement, or Palestinian supporters of Israel?
Why the hell are these two dudes allowed to shout such rubbish into the Unsiverse? Unbelievable! This is historical misrepresentation of the highest order. Thanks for the clarification, Oren. Am Israel chai!
Bs. He can't even disagree with hasbani and he's only allowing you the parts that will make you angry not the parts that will make you question who's actually doing what.
yes and be a "historian" who is not denounced by any university or by other historians?? go on spewing historical lies under the guise of knowledge... insane
@@brianwelch1579Dwindling? Were they sent to concentration camps or crucified like the way Turks did to Armenians in early 20th century? How come I never see piles of their bodies like the way I see photos of Jewish skeletons in WW2? If Israel wanted genocide they could’ve decimated the entire West Bank and Gaza very much decades ago. But they didn’t and so you’ll have to lie through your illogical reasoning.
@@brianwelch1579 Yep. Dwindling from a population of two million to a population of five million over the past thirty years. This is despite being hell-bent on martyring themselves at every opportunity. But go ahead and believe the false claims of a genocide that still isn't happening. If Hamas were to agree to recognize the state of Israel and permanently lay down their arms, the people of Gaza would prosper. Israel has recognized Palestine's right to co-exist side by side time and again, even unilaterally pulling out of Gaza as a gesture of good faith, and they've been rewarded with suicide bombers and rocket attacks in exchange. I'm shocked at how effective the Palestinians have been at reversing the victims and offenders in the region.
I've recently been informed that the word "Palestinian" comes from an ancient Hebrew word that means "invader". Does anyone have any info on this??? If so, then the Palestinians are literally calling themselves "invaders" of the land and are using a Hebrew word to demonstrate and qualify this. They are also getting their "national identity" from a Hebrew word that means invader, clearly stating that they are the invaders and interlopers.
Wow‼️ This is incredible. I did a little research and you are right, Palistine means invader 😱😑 www.google.com/gasearch?q=does%20the%20word%20Palistine%20mean%20invader?&source=sh/x/gs/m2/5
The big difference between your followers and his followers is that your followers want to know the truth and get the facts and his followers simply want to stick with their current narrative regardless of the facts and no names no dates we'll make them think differently
Zionism is the desire to have one little piece of land for Jewish people to live in, where they lived thousands of years ago. The Muslims have the desire to rule over every land on earth because their religion requires them to do that by conquering lands or by just moving there and taking over slowly by population growth. The biggest problem is that people don't know that the Arabs came from Arabia hundreds of years ago and spread out and conquered and colonized many countries in Africa, Asia, and Europe. They are now considered the indigenous people of places that they conquered hundreds of years ago. The Palestinians are descendants of the Arab empires that conquered the Middle East and other places. They don't even mention the Arab slave trade because they only know about the European slave trade. The Arabs conquered and enslaved lots of people for many years. Every country on earth has been fought over by different groups of people over the years. I don't know how anyone can say they are indigenous to any place. People don't sprout up out of the ground in different countries.
indigenous means that people became a people in a certain land and have strong cultural, religious, historical ties to that land, that the very concept and essence of their peoplehood is connected to that particular land. Arabs don’t have this sort of connection to the Land of Israel/Judea. Israelites/Jews do.
Sounds like Baltic countries VS Russia. One of talking points of Vatniks is that we have forgotten that we are Russians. Never was, never will be. So is the mindset of Arab community. Need more! More land! More!
This historian is hysterical! I’ve never seen a historian who knew so little. Hassan Abi is a very arrogant/self righteous guy who lives for attention. Sadly, people give it to him. His uncle is Cenk Uygur. Need I say more. 🙄
I watched several young turks videos for a while despite the fact that they are progressives and I vote green party but all of that changed when Cenk went on a tirade against Jewish people. I left a comment saying that Cenk should just admit that he has something in common with the right in that they both hate Jewish and that he should just join up with the kkk. I still watch some of their videos as sometimes they report on things that people should know about if they live in America like I do but if the story has anything to do with the Israel Palestinian conflict I have no time for that. I had never seen or heard of Hassan until now.
Well, Hasan did bring a historian specialized in the subject to discuss the subject... Kinda feels like you're doing the equivalent of listing to a random YT guy that tell’s u climate change isn't real even thou scientists are trying to break thou to u...
@@XZaRxJILaXwhat a stupid example. Shouldn’t the scientist who knows about climate change be trusted instead of the random guy? The same way, we who know Judaism and live it everyday should be trusted instead of a random who gets everything wrong about our religion and history just to fit his narrative. Wtf bro
@@FagnerAro The point is: u should be listening to the scientists. The climate scientist and the Middle East historian from Princeton. Zachary Foster (the historian in Hasan's vid) published scientific works on the subject that are widely cited in other works. He's the one u should be listening to...
Fun fact, Surah 5:21-23 states that the land of Israel is for the Jews and anyone else should be removed from it for Allah commands it. If palestinians claim to be descendants of canaan, then Allah decrees they MUST be removed.
@@Uchiha.watashi people call him out once a week, he’s too stubborn and his audience too dumb to stop currently. He’ll drop the wrong slur eventually and maybe that might cancel him but until then we have to suffer with his brain dead takes 😭
I feel sickened by every thing that man said! And also guilty for calling the people Palestinians instead of Arabs. This is something I did not know. I apologize to you and all Jews/Israeliies. Now I know. Thank you very much for all of your videos and your knowledge. Love from Canada 🇨🇦, Nancy. Also, please take great care - of yourself and your family!
As an Iranian we have a saying,”Before the teeth there are lips” So these territories trying to change the history. But not a chance😜 Iranians love Israel❤
When it comes to military operations against civilian populations, any kind of rational is mute. Religious freedom involves many facets; damage from substance abuse can cause much confusion. Basically, theft and violence are very difficult to justify and can only lead to division. Perhaps, that is indeed the reason…
כל הכבוד אורן!! ממוקד!,מלומד!!, עונה כל שקר עם עובדות!❤ Very good Oren!, all your answers based in historical facts! But anyway "the other side" will not listen and understand, but to us you give us a reason, founded reason to know and have the confidence to be in Israel (in the border with Gaza) and feel that's the right think to do. All my admiration and ❤to you and your work.
I dont like hysterical nonsense from Muslims & their nutty friends screaming from the river to the sea over & over. Don't like attack on Israel last October & saying it never happened? Well I know it happened and now they screaming in America at universities even though they have hostages in Israel still to this day.
I like this. When I was a PGDHD instructor we had a huge fantastic library of war history and terrorism history. Every day I wasn't preparing classes or teaching, I was reading. So far everything you have said is historically correct.
Love from America! 🇺🇸 You are on the right side of history. When I return to Israel, we will book you for private family tours! I love your channel! ✝️💜✡️
Over the next 10 years, news of injustices, callous and even cruel acts by Israeli soldiers and politicians will come to light. People will either ask how they could have been so wrong, or just deny the evidence in front of them. When cheering tens of thousands of civilian deaths, no one can be on the right side of history. You watch.
You support the genocide of a race. It does NOT matter what religion you are, race you are or HISTORY to actually allow human beings to have to suffer to this magnitude. Just listen here, imagine you had a baby, and all of a sudden your house gets blown up, your baby gets burned to death by the heat and your familiy too. You get up what remains of ur phone to call someone for help, when you see JhonVegas comment on how your ignorant and how the burning of your LIFE is all a LIE
Yeah your right! How dare these Palestinians opose the burning of children, the raping of woman, the bombing of hospitals and schools, the starvation of millions, the lack of medications for the cancer victims and the elderly, the deliberate striking of REFUEGE camps, the deliberate killing of medical staff, food workers, the illegal occupations in the West Bank, the current raid into the West Bank even tho there is no Hammas, the persecution of independent press, the block of aid coming into Gaza for the starving and homeless population of Gaza since 75%+ of the infrastructure has been blown up for NO REASON. Also, lets not forget to mention the 7th of October every millisecond even tho we have been conducting raids into Gaza for decades, killing dozens and opressing and imprisoning Gaza's without charge, to then probably torture because we are the victims bo ho. There is so much much more, I really do hope you have a change of heart
I just read Zach's PhD dissertation and it says the following: "The land of Judea, which was usually and officially known in Roman times by that name. The official adoption of the name Palestine in Roman usage to designate the territories of the former Jewish principality of Judea seems to date from after the suppression of the great Jewish revolt of Bar-Kokhba in the year 135 C.E. After this revolt, which caused great trouble to the Roman Empire, the Emperor Hadrian made a determined attempt to stamp out the embers not only of the revolt but of Jewish nationhood and statehood". He then doesn't provide any proof to contradict this statement So basically, in the video, he either lied or has the memory of a fish. Not surprising.
The region was referred to as Palestine long before the Romans were there and referred to it as such. The Greeks, Persians, Egyptians, and Assyrians were all among the groups that referred to the area as such. I do find that you chose this to be your point of contention hilarious because it is so irrelevant.
@@boatridecharmRegion? What poppycock? Palestine = hebrew for invaders. They’re also of Greek origins so why are you lying that they’re even native to Israel/Judea/Canaan?
@@boatridecharm Now give me a source for this assumption (I would appreciate a reference to a research paper and not to a book that was written by a "nobody", as Zach continuously does in his "glorious" dissertation). But if you're too lazy to do that, then at least provide the etymological meaning of the term "Palestine" and explain how it is connected to Arabs.
As always, fantastic! Love the wry sense of humor, the incredible patience and commitment when facing such a clutter of blood libels and personal attacks. You are on the Olympus of TH-cam. Thanks you!
It's appalling for him (a non-Jew) to claim that Jews are forbidden by Jewish law to emigrate to the Land of Israel. Yet I see things like this all the time: Muslims and Christians who think they understand Jewish law and history better than Jews do. Yet another reason why Jewish sovereignty is so important!
There's an old saying: two Jews, three opinions. There's even a corollary saying: two Israelis, FIVE opinions. In any population large enough, you can find some random asshole taking any position you want
These Palestine historians have short term memory loss because Judaea was established in B.C. and hasn't stopped meanwhile Islam didn't start till 610 A.D. so I'm pretty sure it's always been Jewish land
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@@Travelingisraelinfo I love your content, my mother's been demanding I send her the videos so she can send it. I say long live Israel. But it is long lived. Forever Israel is what I will scream! It's so scary to be pro Israel in these places. My friends were Muslims, now they pose a threat to my physical safety. Not because I am a Jew but because I believe and support the Jews. Every day makes me sad how isolated these communities made me, but it would be sadder to live their narrative. Just no.
What he is doing calling you racist is exactly what the west has been dealing with, the only attack these crazies can plea is to break out their dog whistles with that term
If you call it for what is really happening the algorythm instant deletes your post, basically ill put the flagged words when together in parenthesis they are using the term racist as some kind of trump all logic (Dog) to try to bypass logic appealing to blind bandwagons (Whistle)
its a Dog
"Don't call me names because you can't call me wrong" is a legendary quote
I love that quote
I said this once to my wife and she started learnt to listen and our relationship improved
Like pointing out "Ad hominem" but without sounding like a nerd
Hassan is the god of fallacies
Idk how this is relevant since Hasanabi and the other person provided factual evidence countering this propogandists nonsense. If facts is name calling to you then it just shows how far gone you are with the lies that is being fed to you.
Zachary Foster, this is for you: Socrates said: When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.
A "simple Zionist" has just SCHOOLED the "historian"!!!!
@@dani-ks9cg historian kid looks like he manages OF accounts.
Most important scientific discovery was ignorance
I keep thinking this about our current presidential candidates in the USA. Attack the policies, not the person...
Better free speech and slander than beheading
I applaud you for watching his video to answer his arguments, must have been really painful to watch a 2 hour long hassanabi video.
I wasn’t easy…
i wish people would just ignore hasanabi. He's a spoiled brat with no real life experience that still lives with his parents who continue to spoil him and thats why he has the views that he does
@@Travelingisraelinfo You deserve another coffee, Oren, to have to sit through that one. You did a much better job though refuting them. Keep up the good work. You are doing such an important job.
two hours of total GARBO, as one of those fools said.
@@Travelingisraelinfo Since the chagim are around the corner, consider it a capara?
As an Israeli, you are the first person to have actually presented this subject with facts and no prejiduce.
חזק ואמץ
are you knew to the internet or something?
@@sleb1807 no, sadly just not aware of many good meaning Israeli celebrities
God ordered the Israelites to kill all the people of seven nations. He even says to show no mercy unto them. (Deuteronomy 7:12)
You are an Israeli Jew, undergrad history major, a tour guide, very well read and informed, and that guy has the arrogance to say you do not understand Judaism well 🤣Please make a part two!
"That guy" literally have a PHD
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@@mochithepooh5368 gotten with ilan pappe? or someone like him? litterally changing history for the sake of pal narrative? “My bias is apparent despite my peers' desire that I stick to facts and “truth” when reconstructing past realities. I regard such a construction as vain and absurd.” ilan pappé
@@mochithepooh5368 You make it sound like it is anything to hang in the christmas tree, PhD means nothing.
@@mochithepooh5368 that guy has the adocity to say that a jew doesn't understand judaism
Thank you for all your informative videos. Am Yisrael Chai 🇮🇱.
Oren ~ Truth
LOLL IMAGINE SENDING 50 DOLLARS TO A GENOCADIAL DEFENDER AND NOT GETTING A RESPONSE BAHAHAHAH
@@ignaciodiagoabat most mature pro palestinian , im sure $50 is a ton of money to you and you also cant fathom saying something without desiring attention but not everyone is like you my friend
@@RoeJog4n Im making fun of him becuase he is donating money to a guy that defends the burning of children, the raping of woman, the bombing of hospitals and schools, the starvation of millions, the lack of medications for the cancer victims and the elderly, the deliberate striking of REFUEGE camps, the deliberate killing of medical staff, food workers, the illegal occupations in the West Bank, the current raid into the West Bank even tho there is no Hammas, the persecution of independent press, the block of aid coming into Gaza for the starving and homeless population of Gaza since 75%+ of the infrastructure has been blown up for NO REASON. Also, lets not forget to mention the 7th of October every millisecond even tho we have been conducting raids into Gaza for decades, killing dozens and opressing and imprisoning Gaza's without charge, to then probably torture because we are the victims bo ho. There is so much more.
@@RoeJog4n I CANT RESPOND TO YOUR STUPIDNESS BECAUSE I KEEP GETTING CENSORD
@@RoeJog4n Im making fun of this guy because he just donated 50 bucks to a person that defends the burning of children, the raping of woman, the bombing of hospitals and schools, the starvation of millions, the lack of medications for the cancer victims and the elderly, the deliberate striking of REFUEGE camps, the deliberate killing of medical staff, food workers, the illegal occupations in the West Bank, the current raid into the West Bank even tho there is no Hammas, the persecution of independent press, the block of aid coming into Gaza for the starving and homeless population of Gaza since 75%+ of the infrastructure has been blown up for NO REASON. Also, lets not forget to mention the 7th of October every millisecond even tho we have been conducting raids into Gaza for decades, killing dozens and opressing and imprisoning Gaza's without charge, to then probably torture because we are the victims bo ho. BUT MY COMMENTS KEEP GETTING DELETED, BECAUSE YOUR FRAGILE EGOS MIGHT BE DAMAGED
•Starting a war
•Losing the war
•Complaining
•Play victim
Arabs way
Exactly what China has been doing. Arab and China!
U are NUTS . CHECK UR FACTS BUDDY .
@@theflyingpatata3822He’s 100% right, your response proves the videos point so well, you may aswell have just said “pure garbo” and thrown a tantrum
I mean if someone comes to your house and says it’s theirs now because “God” gave it to them you would also start a war too.
@@skooskipotato3750 opppss u can comment like that, might as well visit google and tap tap tap for the facts.
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Jupiter owns the temple now go home
I remember watching his video because I was open to hearing both sides of the conflict and was curious how a Palestine-supporter would rebuttal Oren’s points in the original video. The whole video was basically just a spaz attack that didn’t address any points and went on about the deir yassin massacre for way too long. Oren is just way smarter, a logical thinker.
I see the same sort of nonsense among creationists. They can talk for hours without communicating any real information and they fail to address direct statements without even noticing the oversight.
Both sides:
Arabs against Jews
Muslims against Jews
21 Arab countries against Israel
56 Muslim countries against Israel
Islam vs. Judaism
Shia vs. Sunni
Iran vs. Turkey
Iran vs. KSA
Iran vs. Egypt
USSR/Russia vs. USA
East vs. West
Hasanabi is known to use ad hominem when he has no point.
Of course the Pallywood side would only curse and attack personally, because the truth HURTS them and they have nothing else to answer
The discussion in this war is absurd. First.
Israel acted selflessly to live in peace with the Palestinians in Gaza. It was more than a decade ago when Israel itself relocated thousands of individuals living in Gaza with lethal force from their homes to follow the agreement, which obligated the Palestinians in return to stop any kind of aggression towards Israel. The Palestinians had the chance to build a safe, functional, and prosperous livelihood. But the first thing the Palestinians did in return was to elect a government that enshrined the goal of destroying Israel in their constitution. The elected government followed through with its promise. Since its founding, thousands of rockets have flown into Israel. Dozens of civilians died in terrorist attacks. Millions of aid funds - intended for civilian purpose - were misused to build rockets, tunnels, and other nonsense. The crimes committed on October 7th like raping women, killing children, or kidnapping a baby, was Humus has been doing for years. Secondly. Israel behaved more humanely in this conflict than any other conceivable party in any imaginable conflict. It allowed Palestinians to work in Israel, receive medical care or even migrate into their country. During war, they warn civilians where their military is operating. They admit collateral damage and apologize for it. They saved Sinwar’s life giving him a lethal brain surgery. They treated the daughter of Haniyyas daughter for her complex disease in Israel. While Humus was building rockets and tunnels with all the foreign aid, Israel supplied their civilians with free water and electricity. The situation is clear. In no other conflict the responsibility for the suffering has been so one sided and clear - in no other conflict have the perpetrators been held accountable so weakly. The same goes for any related conflict: Hezbollah, Houthis, etc…the more peacefully you try to live with them, the more visible their genocidal intents becomes.
People with voice and power who claim to reject war have the duty to unequivocally name the culprit of this war and do everything in their power to eliminate them. Everything else is responsibility for the resulting suffering and will extend it.
I loved the part where Hasan called well documented history "total garbo" as his rebuttal
Isn't it just a convenient argument?
"History?!?!?! Awww nah bruh that total garbo"
Sums up his whole dude bro brain rot
Same with the "historian" he brought.
Hasan and his buddies are revisionists of the Adolf kind.
"“Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves … politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves… The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country. … Behind the terrorism [by the Arabs] is a movement, which though primitive is not devoid of idealism and self sacrifice.”" - David Ben Gurion. Quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky’s Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan’s “Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.
“If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?”
David Ben-Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister): Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp121.
Next year in Jerusalem ach sheli. Keep up the great work, really maybe best channel all around on these issues.
Thanks!
I can't take Hasan seriously. He's always spouting bs
Doesn't even matter what he's talking about either. He's actually incapable of following through on a thought process.
@@milkwalkerjones633 He's a stupid person's idea of a smart person
What do you expect from woke people.
Low education
Hasan Abi is arguably one of the top 10 most evil humans of the last 100 years
correct
I'm an ex-muslim who has actually had to live with muslims, and I wouldn't say anything you said was wrong. Actually, I'd say you weren't harsh enough on them.
Sure thing, white boy.
@davideuggeri238i know it's painful to accept that millions every year are leaving islum haha!!!
@davideuggeri238 it's just so painful for you to accept haha!!
@davideuggeri238 it really hurts your feelings doesn't it heehee
Yes that is good for u too say that becuase islam is an bad ideology that can make extremist and its not an religion who is about spirtuality and love for god and people.
For those of us who have spent years watching our Israeli brothers suffer from the hatred in the Palestinian lie, know that we support your efforts wholeheartedly. Keep building your love my friends.
God bless you for standing with the truth in times it's not popular
The truth is strong with you my friend 💪🏻
to be regurgitating a minor offence that happened 75 years ago, and seemingly dismiss what is happening today, is a disgrace. where are the supposed martyrs, 30,000 strong, aching to please god.
Israel constantly evicts Arabs from homes to build Jewish settlements. There will be no peace as long as this continues.
HasanAbi is so consumed with hate, he refuses to accept historic truth. Is he on drugs?
Just read about Piker. $2.7 home in LA and supported Bernie Sanders. That tells ya a lot right there.
Socialism is when no house😮😂
@@dex4343 hasan sycophants try not to be braindead challenge (impossible)
@@dex4343socialism is when I hate America but I reap the absolute best benefits of America
Legit point though i dint follow hassan more of a destiny viewer so its not personal. Yet being a socialist or having progressive views doesnt mean tou cant be filthy rich?@ChineseMustangs
Wait til you hear about the Jew Terror trillions.
People hate being confronted with reality and truth these days. Thanks for upholding the facts
Yeah, it's alright tho. Just gotta pick your battles and play to your strengths🙆🏽🍿
Because they hate God. They cannot live in the light, but in darkness where they feel comfortable and uncriticized.
Yeah, like when Lonerbox erm, provided him a new buttocks, TI doesn't seem keen to respond further.
Like the reality of white phosphorus? Of destruction in totality? Of the majority of living Palestinians being under the age of 18?
Ironic coming from a zionist
As a Turkish, I find your comments quite true. I wish they weren’t, but unfortunately they are. Unless the world realizes these facts, we will not be able to produce sustainable solutions.
Thank you for your honesty. It’s appreciated. I feel that we need more voices from the Muslim and Arab communities to educate us and help us to understand the mindset. I believe that understanding the mindset of people is critical to help them successfully, hopefully graciously to question some things without blind acceptance, to adapt to changes and learn to accept constructive criticism.
Bravo!
Mashallah, great comment. My father is a Turkish Jew., and his family was saved by the Turkish embassy in Paris when the Nazis invaded. So anyone who says anything bad about Turks I always come to their defense without them, I wouldn’t be here today.
Well, who knows that may be the same thing that’s going to happen to Gaza, they started a war, and they think they’re going to come back to Gaza?
I guess ZAK thinks he knows more than Jews about their own history.
I have done my own research Oren and you are correct.
HasanAbi and Zach Foster are ill informed and very prejudiced.
Am Israel chai! And I hope we can meet next year in Jerusalem!
אמן!
Me too. I have spent almost everyday investigating the two arguments as Oct 7 knocked me around, I was so repulsed by the brutality and cruelty of this attack, I was very emotionally disturbed for quite some time and I can not imagine the trauma which has been inflicted to all those involved as well as all Israelis on that day and every other attack that has happened before that! Before this, I was sympathetic to the Palestinians, due to the media’s narrative and the complete neglect of anyone telling Israel’s story. That changed very quickly. Although I still sympathise with the Palestinians, I have learnt so much about the history and have been blown away at how people have turned on Israel and the hatred directed at Jews around the world. I have learnt so much during this time and it’s so important to never ever believe what you hear, the importance of doing your research, looking at both sides of an argument and the truth will be found. ❤
My hunch is that Zach isn't ill informed, but rather disingenuous
Hasan abi’s cousin is Cenk Uygur, the biggest Jew hatter since Hitler.
they are not ill informed, they are ill-informING. they lie on purpose. hasan is on air admitting he is a propagandist on piers morgans. they really quite simply hate jews. antisemitism has proven itself beyond any doubt to be a very real mind disease. these two have it hard. a lot of arabs and muslims sadly do, they are taught upon it. and then they go on lying to millions of gullible westerners about the evil "zionists and jews"
Lol, accusing you of dehumanising while referring to you as that "Zionist" in a derogatory manner... The Palestinian movement in a nutshell.
taking other people's land forcefully is what the zionist do thou.. i mean sure it british land but..
if the zionist never requested something like that there will be no conflict, at least not as large as this.
@@sleb1807 No one took land forcefully, thats just the hamas lies you have been fed
@sleb1807 The Whole of Islam was a Conquest Driven State
@@damiangaming5696 sure, but it was like 500-1000 years ago soo.. The people who lives in it now doesn't really do conquest anymore
@@sleb1807 bruh
I mean, if Hassan criticizes you, you’re doing something right
TRUE!!!!!!!😂😂😂😂😂
Damn right
Exactly. I remember him supporting transgenders in women's sports just because he thinks it doesn't matter. I mean it's not that important whether or not a male can kill a female with one punch (sarcasm).
Real
Naah, he's pretty good at calling out bu||sh¡t.
Good reporting, my family had to escape Egypt in 1952 I was 5, my uncles store was burned out in Alexandria, my grandfather had heart attack during fire set in Cairo.This young Muslim knows not what he's talking about.
We were refugees in limbo until a country gave us asylum.
Further my grandfather's grave was desecrated by Muslims...
Are you Jewish from Alexandria? Can you still speak the Egyptian Arabic Dialect with the Alexandrian Accent??? I have questions about that dialect specifically
Who commanded numbers 31:18?
@@nicks0alivehe was 5!
@@unisophia yeah I read that part. Uhm, so my assumption is that he left with his parents, and part of this assumption is that his parents still spoke to him.... in their language.
My grandfather left Mexico at 17 years old. He went to America. When my grandpa was 18, 19, and so on, he still spoke to his family in Spanish.
So just to reiterate my assumption: I assume that even though the Original Commentar left Egypt at 5 years old, I assume he and his parents still spoke in the same language.
@@nicks0alive He was 5 years old in 1952, 77 today, doubtfully would retain a specific localized accent if any.
Thank you for telling the truth !!!!
We proudly stand with Israel and the Jewish people, always !
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But, what is the solution? The Palestinians are still there. How can Israel finally live and exist in peace?
I got so mad when I saw that they killed 6 hostages when they realized that they were going to be freed by the Israeli soldiers😢 It is really disgusting...
How mad were you when more than 40 Palestinians were killed on the same day?
@@soulwarrior probably as mad as you when hamas pillaged and raped innocent civilians, now my turn for question how mad are you when their elected government cower under and misfire bombs on their own citizens while taking billions sent to them and moving to different country to live lavish lives?
@@soulwarrior Who?
@@soulwarriorthey drserved it tho
@@soulwarriorPalestinians who would never had died, had it not been for hamas and their atrocities on Oct 7th. War costs innocent people their lives. Hamas started a war. Innocent people are killed. Hamas surprised Pikachu face.
when a person with a doctorate loses his marbles and misrepresents facts to fight against a tour guide?
the fact that they need a Historian to fight against a Tour Guide...and still lose in fact and logic... is such an embarrassment to where he got his PhD from.
I'm guessing Columbia. Maybe UPenn. Possibly MIT or Harvard.
Probably got it off a Cracker Jack box…
According to his bio on Wikipedia he does not have a PhD, he has a B.A. double major in pollical science and communication.
Only a North American university would award this clown an advanced degree
😮@@Pyrolonn
The Arabs omit factual references then accuse Oren of doing so. When Oren says “prove me wrong” he means with facts not specious claims.
two groups always use projection: Muslims and Marxists.
They live in self-deception.
@@Phoenix-td8mu I think Islam calls it taqiyya
The proof goes something like this: "That's total garbo. QED."
@@Bloodshotty Taqyyia is deliberately lying. Self-deception is more or less unconscious.
Oren is one of the very few people on YT I'm happy to support, as his work is so important!
For God's sake...pls, Oren, don't give a sh*t about that guy. You are doing the right thing. I am with you. Blessings from Poland 🇵🇱🇮🇱❤️
He also has to give a shit. This Hassan guy has been on mainstream channels spouting his rhetoric for a while now. His followers are very young and impressionable. The need to be better educated by anyone other than Hassan.
@@killermiller1980 its honestly sick what he does.
Poland loves when the Jews move away lol
You definitely are not a racist. You tell the true history of what led to, and what is happening in the Middle East today.
identity politics is by definition racist. arab refugees get indoctrinated by the left to be racist and "victims"
the only ones who are racist are the people calling jews "white european colonizers" , they are both racist towards white people (many times themselves) and are antisemetic towards jews , and they are also racist towards arabs , blacks and other ethnicities treating them like children that can do no wrong ...
Not only in the Middle East, those same "poor Muslims" committing similar atrocities in Bangladesh as we write comments in good TH-cam videos
@@dani-ks9cg that’s why the fanatical Islamists need to be segregated from the modern world before it’s too late.
@@dani-ks9cg AND IN NIGERIA 10k+ churches attacked since 2009, countless kids kidnapped...
Thank You for repeating more TRUE Facts! I appreciate your perspective! Baruch HaShem & Shalom Shalom Israel!!!🙏🇮🇱🇺🇸🙏
His is NOT a lack of understating.
It is *his totall refusal to accept history*
UN has behaved hatefully towards Jews almost from the UN 's beginnings.
I think the fact that the soviet union was part of the leauge of nations that later became the UN is telling alot about the falws of this organization
, yes it was needed to fight the nazis but since stalin was also attacked by him they gave him a seat of honor there even though the soviet union was also a dictatorship that opressed people and killed millions of people .
Nah, he's just lying. its easier.
The UN can’t resist the fat Qatari dollars!
The UN created Isreal
The UN gave Israeli's (the colonial settlers) more than 55% of the Palestinians territory (the indigenous population). I think they like the Jews better than the other group, demonstratably so.
We stand by Israel with love and bravery 🫡🇮🇱❤️🇺🇸 God bless you.
Tack!
A lot of Arabs say “why did jews get most of the land” and I have 2 answers
1: They didn’t lose wars they didn’t start
2: They didn’t, Arabs also got Jordan
Plus the largest part of what jews got was either desert or swamp. Israelis just made a lot of efforts and invented new technologies to cultivate the land.
It's started when the hellastinians sold thier lands to then jews and then they planted trees and developed the land. The Arabs di the opposite. Not they want it back after the jews did all the hard work.
Because God gave it to them. And He does not need nor want mankind's opinions or feedback on this matter.
Which is funny because in the persuit of peace. Israel gave them a lot of land.
A lot of jews say "Why are Zionists claiming 'we' agreed to some private corporations doing low-rent company colonies like Israel and using Judaism to get them?"...but obviously, that didn't make your fake list.
What is dehumanizing is the fact that the prophet Muhammad married aisha, a six year old girl.
Yep but they use the excuse that “it was normal 1400 years ago”. So I’m guessing Muslims would be happy to let their 6 year old daughter get married to a fully grown man.
The sex slavery he permitted is probably the worst thing the lecherous warlord allowed.
One of his companions even married a 1yo
@@aaronsaada9878 it's allowed in their fiqh books, all madhabs. I have a playlist on it.
@@Stardust475……… read the “ the jerusalem post !”
Publısed : Mai. 2.2023
On the cover :
„ Israel is trying to legalize pädophilie by Avi MOAZ !“
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As a Christian i appreciate your invitation to visit our Holy Sepulchre, unfortunately with your neighbours around its quite dangerous. I wish for the Jewish people the peace they deserve, God bless
I am Jewish but just visited there. Its a beautiful place. It felt pretty safe actually.
Social media is full of guys like these two....they think they are experts...but know nothing. Living in their safe (democratic) countries....spouting nonsense to gain attention.
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He is right.
You are just spouting propaganda.
You claim this owner of this channel is Semitic.🥴
He has Scandinavian looks with a German accent. But he pretend to be more indigenous than Middle Eastern Palestinians.
Yes, you are right. To get attention is obviously much more important to these guys, than truth is. I also read a lot of history, from all sides, and Oren is so right.Lisbeth
@@AlonzoHarris235fun fact: Jews are native to this land as they are from the Levant, and Arabs are from (you guessed it) the Arab Peninsula and migrated to the region mostly in the past couple hundred years. Oren looks like an Ashkenazi Jew but he's nonetheless Levantine. Just like how there are Palestinians with blonde hair and blue eyes. Your lack of contribution to this discussion or channel shows you're a troll with a lack of hobbies. Hope you get help 😊
@@AlonzoHarris235 You are so ignorant. Oren was born in Israel, same as I. I look very European, but I'm actually only half Ashkenazi. My mom's family are all from Iraq.
When they start criticizing you, it means you're making a difference.
Good job
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-Hitler
Or maybe just maybe there's need for the criticism but no that's way to crazy of an idea surly i'm the crazy one here
Criticism is legit, but it needs to actually be given. Calling everything propaganda is not criticism.
Another thing to take into account is that in Islam it is permitted to lie to defend Islam.
Yep, and the fact jihad is broadly defined as struggle for Islam means they will lie their way to position and power in the West, what used to be known as christiandom.
Exactly...and to quote some Lebanon Christians, NEVER trust muslims, never...
Yes this is correct. Also known as „Taqqiya“.
Yeah it’s called taqiya
The whole religion of Islam is built on a lie, so it doesn't really matter😂
Saying to a Jew that he doesn't understand that much about Judaism, it's crazy! Americans liberals are so entitled.
Tbf most American jews couldn't care less
Just say you hate Americans you don't have to pretend, they'll always support Jew Terror even when it means attacking real Jews who criticize it
Thanks!
LOLL IMAGINE DONATING 20 DOLLARS AND NOT EVEN GETTING A LIKE BAHAHAHAHHA
It's scary that some people (mostly children) form their worldview around Hasan's opinions and feelings.
many muslims and woke people have low education standards.
thats why they increasingly combine together on a political and cultural spectrum
Until they grow up. They dont realize the guy who preaches socialism is the most capitalistic guy out there
yea they’re all kids who just believe anything
@@mrl2814 maybe it was a scam.. Marx used zero math. Just like Islam
Parents need to monitor who their kids watch, instead of just letting their kids free reign in the garbage that is on the Internet.
I'm a person of colour, I support you and israel, now as a Jew but as a Christian. You've been honest and factual... What more does a moral person want. Hasanabi is not moral.
Hasanabi, the communist with the Gucci bag, he is a puppet master, and all of leftist TH-cam are his puppets.
You support land-theft, collective punishment and ethnic cleansing. Nobody cares what colour you are pal.
You're welcome anytime in Israel אָחי
Person of... Color? What? Uuh, ok. You know, I'm something of a "person of color" myself. White is a color, is it not? I got chestnut hair and brown eyes. Pretty colorful if you ask me. My grandma was blond and gray eyed. Look how "colorful" my family is.
@@aaronsaada9878 God bless Israel. And I pray to come visit
I’m really sick of hearing the term “Zionist”.
Over the course of this conflict it’s gone from a term used to describe a sub-group of Jewish people with a specific set of of beliefs which some find objectionable, to a general negative slur for anyone who disagrees with the Free Palestine movement.
It’s just a racially charged insult now. Depressingly regressive discourse.
Whilst it does get used as a discriminatory word and as an insult, racially charged wouldn't be the right term.
@@inoo2345judaism is an ethno-religion. its definitely racially charged
Thank you so much. 🙏🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱
Absolutely loved this. Thanks. So many here in Ireland swallow the Palestinian lies, and I need the evidence to back up my arguments. Thanks again!
I noticed that when visiting relatives in Ireland. I had to quickly deflect the conversation!
Yep Im English thankfully we & Irish people are waking up to the lies of Islamists & pushing back against this mass indoctrination.
One of my friends (Irish) has decided not to speak to me anymore because I pointed out the Palestinian lies 😅 maybe with some people, it's better not to discuss it with them
Stay safe man. We appreciate your support but especially on this issue I've seen a fair share of lunatics with hatred so big it will be used against you as well.
I've seen a shift of more Ireland support recently (unfortunately also the opposite) so it makes me at least slightly hopeful some people can maybe wake up to actual facts.
No to a 23rd arab state. No to a 56th islamic state.
Yes to 1 Jewish state
No to theocratic states.
Israel isn't theocratic. It's a secular democracy. Same cant be said about vast majority of muslim countries. Since erdogan, not even about turkey
They don't want a state and yet leftist and progressive morons keep talking about a two state solution.
@@Jirka-j2gI think he/she meant to refer to the Islamic state as a theocracy (Israel is definitely not a theocracy, and I never want it to become one :P)
Sending love from Israel ❤️
The fact that they say that UNRWA was "established after WW2 when the jews faced persecution by Nazi Germany" But then if you go the OFFICIAL website for UNRWA they say: "UNRWA was established by UN General Assembly Resolution 302 (IV) of 8 December 1949 “to carry out […] direct relief and works programmes” for Palestine refugees. The Agency began operations on 1 May 1950." Like can we at least get a point with some real references behind it.
That's funny coming from a genocide denier lol
Yay!!! Your videos reached the right people! That dude interviewed a terrorist and got excited that he liked one piece. I was viscerally disgusted. He was seriously excited that they liked the same cartoon. Hitler and I were both vegetarians but you don’t see me celebrating what I have in common with a murderer. That’s the moment I knew that guy was human garbage.
Your ability to plainly and simply state facts has helped me grow as a person. I was a pro-palestine supporter until my partner started to gently talk to me about the misinformation I believed. When I found your channel I started absorbing every single video. I felt in my heart that you were telling the truth. I started looking up the facts you so expertly weave in, and over the course of a couple months my mind has been made up and I no longer feel conflicted about my beliefs. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.
When I heard that a teeny tiny small part of me thought that when Hasan spoke to that terrorist that he would get the wake-up call he sorely needed.
And then I saw the clips.
I was so thoroughly disgusted by that interview. The part about One Piece… like… yes, they are going to like some popular media. That’s not even remotely a surprise. Hitler notoriously loved Snow White despite the fact that she represented everything he was actively destroying (the sweet innocence and compassion)
A "simple Zionist" has just SCHOOLED the "historian"!!!!
Dani , don’t know if you know but Oren has a masters I believe in history of the Middle East . I’ll mention here to ask Oren to please talk about what you majored in in college!.
"Historian"...
If he did a PHD on Palestinian history, then in fact he doesn't have a PHD at all because there is no such thing as Palestinian history
@@avistrelchin2293 Everybody has PHD on "palestinian" history because you only need to know they were formed in the 1960s after meeting between Arafat (an EGYPTIAN) and the KGB
@@dani-ks9cg Ion Pacepa talks about it
JERUSALEM AND ISRAEL FOREVER INTO ETERNITY SHALOM AND AMEN!✝️✝️🛐🛐😇🌟🤗🙏🙏🙏🇨🇦🇬🇧🇮🇱♾️🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🗽🦅❤❤❤‼️
Be strong my friend ....full support from Finland to Israel ❤
Pommittakaa koko lähi-itä paskaksi Israel mukaan lukien. Maailman hyvinvointi +200%
Kiitos 💙🤍💙
@@Ironbattlemace Samoin sitten suomelle venäjä pomittaa ja tuhoaa koko suomen, tosi hyvä ratkaisu Einstein😊
Thank you from Israel. I’d love to visit Finland
@MiaLevin-uu8dq welcome to Sauna:)
I love your sense of humour, Oren. ❤😂
This is not a misunderstanding. Hasan is a bad faith actor.
He's a highly successful grifter just like his uncle at The Young Turks.
as usual
A recent study found Hasan is on the same level as InfoWars in terms of propaganda. It’s kind of funny.
@@detectivemuffler8083 the only difference between them is that one was banned from every social media platform and had all of his assets frozen. The other still shit talks like the leftist he is and isn't punished for spewing disgusting hot takes on twitch.
@@detectivemuffler8083when ya uncle is a young Turk, he was ALWAYS into wars level propaganda
Waiting for part 2 and 3 and 4!
Hasan like the majority of these people are very ignorant 😢
I would *LOVE* to see all of his followers go to Afghanistan or Pakistan and do the challenge
Absolutely nailed him on that one, good job 👍
I like the calmness while explaining, rather than the anger
The anger is probably because of the killings
@@andyghkfilm2287Then they should’ve thought twice about invading a country. F arround and find out.
@@Zanakiller123 I don’t know how to explain to you that that’s not a valid justification for the many thousands of dead civilians.
@@andyghkfilm2287 this is war in which civilians unfortunately die. If you care so much for civilians then demand hamas‘s surrender. They started a war. Can’t cry for them civilians now
@@Zanakiller123 in point of fact, it was actually Israel that violated the ceasefire prior to oct. 7th-but regardless, no amount of violence justifies this response, and you know that.
Thank you Oren for another great video!!
Yeah your right! How dare these Palestinians opose the burning of children, the raping of woman, the bombing of hospitals and schools, the starvation of millions, the lack of medications for the cancer victims and the elderly, the deliberate striking of REFUEGE camps, the deliberate killing of medical staff, food workers, the illegal occupations in the West Bank, the current raid into the West Bank even tho there is no Hammas, the persecution of independent press, the block of aid coming into Gaza for the starving and homeless population of Gaza since 75%+ of the infrastructure has been blown up for NO REASON. Also, lets not forget to mention the 7th of October every millisecond even tho we have been conducting raids into Gaza for decades, killing dozens and opressing and imprisoning Gaza's without charge, to then probably torture because we are the victims bo ho. There is so much much more, I really do hope you have a change of heart
I went to one “anti-Zionist” rally in college. I didn’t know what Zionism was except from a joke on American Dad. Anyways I went and realized this was more of a hysterical performance than an actual informative rally and so I learned nothing. I appreciate you being armed with facts that are easy to verify my self. I am a Christian but I have a profound love for the Jewish culture and community! I pray for a lasting peace and safety for the people of Israel and the people in Gaza and West Bank that don’t stand with Hamas. I hope to visit Israel with my mother someday!
"I am sure I will have way more followers that are still alive" 😄😄😄😄
I really like my followers to be alive. It is very important to me.
@@Travelingisraelinfo lol I really enjoyed that part Oren ahi. It's funny because it's true!
I work at a university....I'd probably get applause. :-)
Thank you I trust your information when I check everything you say and you are correct,. I will check the other guy’s credentials after watching this. From an Australian in Tokyo.
On another note I hope to visit Israel one day. I’m not Jewish, I am Catholic, I saw a video where Catholics are spat upon in Israel, is this an isolated incident?
@@SylviaStarbucks This exists, but on very rare occasions, and not in public places. It is mostly entitled youngsters from the Jewish talmudic cults, like the orthodox. They think they are special because they are taught that way by their preachers. They are also detached from the society and the government allows that to be. And this goverment's self position of being right wing, which is fueled by Palestinian terrorism and world wide terrorism support, that gives them this political power. This is another threat Israel faces, but we are confident about solving this issue once and for all after we win this war, and there have already been great progress in this matter. After all it is the secular and traditional Israelis that are moving the country forward, and not the backwards pseudo-right xenophobes. Visit without fear my dear, Israel is a great example of united and diverse society, also is one of the most secure countries to be ( no matter how that sounds conflicting )
Stay strong all brave Israeli heroes
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you forgot this: 🇮🇸
If anyone’s brave it’s the Palestinians the Israelis aren’t suffering they have food water from big daddy America
@@opensocietyenjoyerfrom the river to the sea Åland will be free!
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I’m a Swedish Jew and this warms my heart
It's so rich when they accuse Israel of "dehumanizing" Palestinians. If anything, they dehumanized themselves when they committed the attrocities of Oct. 7th.
That is what I was thinking, too. And I would add that their so called "holy" book that is actually truly vile is rife with dehumanizing non-muslims, but with a special dehumanizing hatred of Jews.
Add to that the fact that their so called "holy" book is rife with dehumanizing content towards Jews and non muslims in general, referring to them as "pigs, monkeys, and " the worst of creatures". The hypocrisy, disingenuousness and outright lies of the mu$lim apologists is astounding.
@@DoReMeaCulpa So much hate for people that are not like them, it really just kinda makes you want to cry 😢
@@mitchweber7868most westerners paid with their taxes to help this hate grow through the absurd UNRWA schools curricula. I'm among them I'm afraid 😕
The World is blind! Seems that the “scales over the Jews eyes,” as stated in The New Testament, is actually blinding The U.N. along with the majority of the world.
Isn’t it scary how any PHd student with a thesis nowadays can alter centuries of history by positing opinion over historical fact? Actually, you don’t even have to have a doctorate…just a TikTok channel…😱
History is a never-ending battle.
@@defeatSpaceall information is a battle, good vrs evil but evil catches on because it promises to fulfill the sick desires of it’s fans
that's a scary thing, esp. nowadays with social media. We see how Arabs created alternative narrative what's going on in Gaza. And yes, PhD nowadays is not degree of one's knowledge, competence, sanity and morality.
Being pro-Jew Terror doesn't make you educated lol
The audacity of a non-Jew to think they know more about Jewish history than a Jew, or even an Israeli, is absurd, and frankly incredibly egotistical.
while saing lies and half truths about jew or israel
Next up in this clown’s routine is to go to a black woman and tell her she clearly knows nothing about discrimination
Hasan is a muppet, but your statement makes no sense. I’m not American and yet I understand American politics and American history way better than most Americans.
@@eyemallears2647 This is true logically. Yet, it's still audacious what he's spewing because all he uses is wikipedia pages (which is not entirely bad) but they're used in a way that's not rational at all
@@eyemallears2647 Not this American!
It is crazy how there are over a ton of Muslim countries and a ton of Arab countries but if we have ONE Jewish country…. End of the world. Unacceptable
And they have the gall to pretend they are against nationalism and ethnostates... nobody is protesting against Egypt
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No people have an issue with a country oppressing another and massacring its people
Yet, only Israel is an apartheid state. In addition, Israel “claims” to be the only democracy in the region. They are just as much religious fundamentalists as the Arab nations surrounding it.
Muslim loves to victimise themselves. Most of the muslim countries used to be non-muslim countries if you read the history. They invaded those countries and now acting like they are the natives.
תודה רבה לך, אורן! אתה האביר על הסוס הלבן בלהילחם בפרופגנדה של האנטישמים, ואתה עושה זאת בצורה מדהימה, עם כל המקורות ולא משאיר להם מקום לתפוס אותך במה שאתה אומר, תודה!
You support the genocide of a race. It does NOT matter what religion you are, race you are or ethnicity you are to actually allow human beings to have to suffer to this magnitude. Just listen here, imagine you had a baby, and all of a sudden your house gets blown up, your baby gets burned to death by the heat and your familiy too. You get up what remains of ur phone to call someone for help, when you see user-cm2kk2b1t comment on how your ignorant and how the burning of your LIFE is all a LIE
Thanks! Oren you fight the good fight with a humble truth that blind ignorance will never see.
Thanks!
Funny how Hasan Abi’s dissertation would have failed a grade 8 history class. He should be embarrassed to call himself a historian. He seems more like a propagandist for the Iranians.
Nice contradiction David, he's a "propagandist" for the Iranians (Wouldn't he be a propagandist for the Palestinians?) but his history knowledge isn't up to eighth grade... isn't the logical conclusion he's uninformed and manipulated?
1. history classes differ from country to country and i doubt that they teach middle eastern history in asian schools, especially in 8th grade.
2. When did he claim that he is a historian?
3. even israeli historian covered the forced eviction of arabs
4. how is he a propagandist for the iranians exacly ? elaborate
@@muhammadhabibjawady552 It doesn't matter whether an 'Israeli historian' writes about Israeli atrocities... what matters is EVIDENCE (something very few people understand).
If people are right when they accuse their own of wrongdoing, what would you make of the entire ex-Muslim movement, or Palestinian supporters of Israel?
@@hasibhakanovic6682 ok link me the ex-muslim movement.
@@hasibhakanovic6682 i agree on the evidence point
This is good stuff. Keep going, TravelingIsrael!
Why the hell are these two dudes allowed to shout such rubbish into the Unsiverse? Unbelievable! This is historical misrepresentation of the highest order. Thanks for the clarification, Oren. Am Israel chai!
This is peak of icreg ge I veiewq ai literall teroisy on strema
Google hutis
Free speech better than murder
Bs. He can't even disagree with hasbani and he's only allowing you the parts that will make you angry not the parts that will make you question who's actually doing what.
yes and be a "historian" who is not denounced by any university or by other historians?? go on spewing historical lies under the guise of knowledge... insane
stay strong Israel
"I really admire their ability to talk without actually saying anything" is a perfect summary of Hasan's entire career
🇮🇱We are always with you Oren. Everyone knows it is your heart that is in the right place. Not theirs. Never feel alone. - love from India 🇮🇱🇮🇳
Lonerbox has a video disproving him
Yeah, India has its own imaginary reasons to vilify Muslims. No surprise to see kneejerk support.
@@randomhuman2595Another bullshit hahahha nice try 🫎 lim
Lame. Lamer. Lamest. LMAO!
Am Yisrael Chai
Of course the country without toilets would support the Js. Dirty loves dirty.
Most palestinians say words in the wind. Some dumb people buy it. Well done Oren! Proud of you! Shalom from Brazil !
I'm impressed that you know "most" palestinians.. but sadly, that could be possible with the way they are dwindling.
@@brianwelch1579Dwindling? Were they sent to concentration camps or crucified like the way Turks did to Armenians in early 20th century? How come I never see piles of their bodies like the way I see photos of Jewish skeletons in WW2? If Israel wanted genocide they could’ve decimated the entire West Bank and Gaza very much decades ago. But they didn’t and so you’ll have to lie through your illogical reasoning.
@@brianwelch1579 Yep. Dwindling from a population of two million to a population of five million over the past thirty years. This is despite being hell-bent on martyring themselves at every opportunity. But go ahead and believe the false claims of a genocide that still isn't happening. If Hamas were to agree to recognize the state of Israel and permanently lay down their arms, the people of Gaza would prosper. Israel has recognized Palestine's right to co-exist side by side time and again, even unilaterally pulling out of Gaza as a gesture of good faith, and they've been rewarded with suicide bombers and rocket attacks in exchange. I'm shocked at how effective the Palestinians have been at reversing the victims and offenders in the region.
Some of them don't. Like the kids under rubble.
Palestinians does not exist. Those are just Arabs came from other countries in the Middle East not even Arafat was a Palestinian. He was Egyptian.
I've recently been informed that the word "Palestinian" comes from an ancient Hebrew word that means "invader". Does anyone have any info on this???
If so, then the Palestinians are literally calling themselves "invaders" of the land and are using a Hebrew word to demonstrate and qualify this. They are also getting their "national identity" from a Hebrew word that means invader, clearly stating that they are the invaders and interlopers.
Plishtim, yes.
@@augjake Is 'plishtim' a Hebrew word that means 'invader'? Do I have that right?
@@liteenergy4843 'Polesh' means invader, 'Plishtim' means 'invaders'.
@@sunshine6522 Thanks
Wow‼️ This is incredible. I did a little research and you are right, Palistine means invader 😱😑
www.google.com/gasearch?q=does%20the%20word%20Palistine%20mean%20invader?&source=sh/x/gs/m2/5
The big difference between your followers and his followers is that your followers want to know the truth and get the facts and his followers simply want to stick with their current narrative regardless of the facts and no names no dates we'll make them think differently
Very true but also expected since his followers are 12 year olds using their parents phones to watch him on twitch
Zionism is the desire to have one little piece of land for Jewish people to live in, where they lived thousands of years ago. The Muslims have the desire to rule over every land on earth because their religion requires them to do that by conquering lands or by just moving there and taking over slowly by population growth.
The biggest problem is that people don't know that the Arabs came from Arabia hundreds of years ago and spread out and conquered and colonized many countries in Africa, Asia, and Europe. They are now considered the indigenous people of places that they conquered hundreds of years ago. The Palestinians are descendants of the Arab empires that conquered the Middle East and other places.
They don't even mention the Arab slave trade because they only know about the European slave trade. The Arabs conquered and enslaved lots of people for many years.
Every country on earth has been fought over by different groups of people over the years. I don't know how anyone can say they are indigenous to any place. People don't sprout up out of the ground in different countries.
indigenous means that people became a people in a certain land and have strong cultural, religious, historical ties to that land, that the very concept and essence of their peoplehood is connected to that particular land.
Arabs don’t have this sort of connection to the Land of Israel/Judea. Israelites/Jews do.
-lived thousands of years ago- *for the last 3200 years
Exactly Correct 💯.
And let me add a FACTS "Muhammad was a Slave Trader".
Sounds like Baltic countries VS Russia. One of talking points of Vatniks is that we have forgotten that we are Russians. Never was, never will be. So is the mindset of Arab community. Need more! More land! More!
Brilliantly explained, thanks.
I am a huge fan of yours..every single word is the truth.
Carry on with your brilliant programm.
God Bless you ❤
Thanks!
The best when you said, Muslims should go to pray at their holiest place -Mekka. 💥😅
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*micdrop* XD
this point makes no sense. We have worship places here in Tunisia, a muslim country. So should we just prevent jews from coming here to pray?
@@muhammadhabibjawady552you are an absolute clown.🤡
This historian is hysterical! I’ve never seen a historian who knew so little. Hassan Abi is a very arrogant/self righteous guy who lives for attention. Sadly, people give it to him. His uncle is Cenk Uygur. Need I say more. 🙄
Oh really? I don't mind some of the people at TYT, but Cenk is the worst.
Interesting to learn of the family connection. Explains the similarity of the vacuous narcissistic bile they spew.
I watched several young turks videos for a while despite the fact that they are progressives and I vote green party but all of that changed when Cenk went on a tirade against Jewish people. I left a comment saying that Cenk should just admit that he has something in common with the right in that they both hate Jewish and that he should just join up with the kkk. I still watch some of their videos as sometimes they report on things that people should know about if they live in America like I do but if the story has anything to do with the Israel Palestinian conflict I have no time for that. I had never seen or heard of Hassan until now.
@@raiftadehara9218 Little bro thinks Israelis and Zionists are synonymous with "Jewish people." Do you enjoy being a clown?
Uyghur Is connected to the fresh liver and kidney market In China? (The beloved friend of the Arabs after Hitler)...
I love these guys telling a Jewish Israeli that he doesn’t understand his own religious history.
Well, Hasan did bring a historian specialized in the subject to discuss the subject...
Kinda feels like you're doing the equivalent of listing to a random YT guy that tell’s u climate change isn't real even thou scientists are trying to break thou to u...
@@XZaRxJILaXwhat a stupid example. Shouldn’t the scientist who knows about climate change be trusted instead of the random guy? The same way, we who know Judaism and live it everyday should be trusted instead of a random who gets everything wrong about our religion and history just to fit his narrative. Wtf bro
@@FagnerAro The point is: u should be listening to the scientists. The climate scientist and the Middle East historian from Princeton. Zachary Foster (the historian in Hasan's vid) published scientific works on the subject that are widely cited in other works. He's the one u should be listening to...
@@XZaRxJILaX a title is a title, refusing history is wrong.
Oren is too humble. He didn't even mention that he LITERALLY has a MASTER'S DEGREE in History...
Fun fact, Surah 5:21-23 states that the land of Israel is for the Jews and anyone else should be removed from it for Allah commands it.
If palestinians claim to be descendants of canaan, then Allah decrees they MUST be removed.
Whatever institution gave that guy a PhD should rescind it immediately 😂
Great, Hasan Abi being a moron doesn't make ANY difference to the arguments for a Palestinian state.
rescind, a woke univ wouldn't
Great job Oren in debunking the false claims of propagandists so called "pro-pals..."
Go look for loner box's latest response if you want to see a thorough debunking.
I don't think I've ever actually heard hasan make a good point (he has gone after other groups I've been in/paid attention to before)
rly? what groups? someone needs to call him out soon and cancel him 💀
I'm a leftist leaning person in the US and I hate Hasan. He spends half his time eating on stream and is an idiot. He makes us all look bad.
@@Uchiha.watashi people call him out once a week, he’s too stubborn and his audience too dumb to stop currently. He’ll drop the wrong slur eventually and maybe that might cancel him but until then we have to suffer with his brain dead takes 😭
I feel sickened by every thing that man said! And also guilty for calling the people Palestinians instead of Arabs. This is something I did not know. I apologize to you and all Jews/Israeliies. Now I know. Thank you very much for all of your videos and your knowledge. Love from Canada 🇨🇦, Nancy.
Also, please take great care - of yourself and your family!
you shouldn't apologize for something you didn't know!, we are human after all
You live in their heads rent free 😂. And those people always try to play the victim card. Denied.
Keep doing what you do.
As an Iranian we have a saying,”Before the teeth there are lips”
So these territories trying to change the history. But not a chance😜
Iranians love Israel❤
G-d bless, I am an American Jew who has many Persian friends, I pray for the oppressed people of Iran.
From my experience Iranians are very warm and wonderful people. Unfortunately they are governed by a terrible regime.
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Iranian called "James Rockford" lol
No, they dont..
Another brilliant production! I wish I had any suggestion, but it’s perfect as is.
I also think that it is good :-)
When it comes to military operations against civilian populations, any kind of rational is mute.
Religious freedom involves many facets; damage from substance abuse can cause much confusion.
Basically, theft and violence are very difficult to justify and can only lead to division. Perhaps, that is indeed the reason…
Why doesn't anyone see that Israeli control is the best for everyone. If Israel governs Gaza everyone's life would be better.
כל הכבוד אורן!!
ממוקד!,מלומד!!, עונה כל שקר עם עובדות!❤
Very good Oren!, all your answers based in historical facts!
But anyway "the other side" will not listen and understand, but to us you give us a reason, founded reason to know and have the confidence to be in Israel (in the border with Gaza) and feel that's the right think to do. All my admiration and ❤to you and your work.
תודה רבה! מאוד נהנתי לעשות את הסרטון הזה.
@@Travelingisraelinfo Keep up the good work! You are famous now, as you say in another video. Doing great work, Oren, we love you. AM YISRAEL CHAI.
I dont like hysterical nonsense from Muslims & their nutty friends screaming from the river to the sea over & over. Don't like attack on Israel last October & saying it never happened? Well I know it happened and now they screaming in America at universities even though they have hostages in Israel still to this day.
@@Travelingisraelinfo nice make belief language.
@@pimpintoads5871 it's Hebrew...
I like this. When I was a PGDHD instructor we had a huge fantastic library of war history and terrorism history. Every day I wasn't preparing classes or teaching, I was reading. So far everything you have said is historically correct.
I imagine you also brainwashed your students into believing that gang raping is okay as long as the Cult soldiers do it?
Love from America! 🇺🇸 You are on the right side of history. When I return to Israel, we will book you for private family tours! I love your channel! ✝️💜✡️
Thank you coming from a American Jew 🇺🇸✡️🇺🇸✡️🇺🇸✡️🇺🇸✡️🇺🇸✡️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Lonerbox debunked him
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Over the next 10 years, news of injustices, callous and even cruel acts by Israeli soldiers and politicians will come to light. People will either ask how they could have been so wrong, or just deny the evidence in front of them. When cheering tens of thousands of civilian deaths, no one can be on the right side of history. You watch.
Very well explained
Thank you for your patient and excellent history. You are being heard.
You support the genocide of a race. It does NOT matter what religion you are, race you are or HISTORY to actually allow human beings to have to suffer to this magnitude. Just listen here, imagine you had a baby, and all of a sudden your house gets blown up, your baby gets burned to death by the heat and your familiy too. You get up what remains of ur phone to call someone for help, when you see JhonVegas comment on how your ignorant and how the burning of your LIFE is all a LIE
Yeah your right! How dare these Palestinians opose the burning of children, the raping of woman, the bombing of hospitals and schools, the starvation of millions, the lack of medications for the cancer victims and the elderly, the deliberate striking of REFUEGE camps, the deliberate killing of medical staff, food workers, the illegal occupations in the West Bank, the current raid into the West Bank even tho there is no Hammas, the persecution of independent press, the block of aid coming into Gaza for the starving and homeless population of Gaza since 75%+ of the infrastructure has been blown up for NO REASON. Also, lets not forget to mention the 7th of October every millisecond even tho we have been conducting raids into Gaza for decades, killing dozens and opressing and imprisoning Gaza's without charge, to then probably torture because we are the victims bo ho. There is so much much more, I really do hope you have a change of heart
I just read Zach's PhD dissertation and it says the following:
"The land of Judea, which was usually and officially known in Roman times by that name. The official adoption of the name Palestine in Roman usage to designate the territories of the former Jewish principality of Judea seems to date from after the suppression of the great Jewish revolt of Bar-Kokhba in the year 135 C.E. After this revolt, which caused great trouble to the Roman Empire, the Emperor Hadrian made a determined attempt to stamp out the embers not only of the revolt but of Jewish nationhood and statehood".
He then doesn't provide any proof to contradict this statement
So basically, in the video, he either lied or has the memory of a fish. Not surprising.
That sounds like what Aren't said and cited, but alerted correctly to avoid plagiarism.
Well might be that zach wrote his thesis under influence high alcohol and goes to heaven in short time with bouraq,,😂😂
The region was referred to as Palestine long before the Romans were there and referred to it as such. The Greeks, Persians, Egyptians, and Assyrians were all among the groups that referred to the area as such. I do find that you chose this to be your point of contention hilarious because it is so irrelevant.
@@boatridecharmRegion? What poppycock? Palestine = hebrew for invaders. They’re also of Greek origins so why are you lying that they’re even native to Israel/Judea/Canaan?
@@boatridecharm Now give me a source for this assumption (I would appreciate a reference to a research paper and not to a book that was written by a "nobody", as Zach continuously does in his "glorious" dissertation).
But if you're too lazy to do that, then at least provide the etymological meaning of the term "Palestine" and explain how it is connected to Arabs.
As always, fantastic! Love the wry sense of humor, the incredible patience and commitment when facing such a clutter of blood libels and personal attacks. You are on the Olympus of TH-cam. Thanks you!
They can't even pronounce Palestine since there's no p sound in arabic. What a joke.
oh my god how can one be this intellectually inept
It's appalling for him (a non-Jew) to claim that Jews are forbidden by Jewish law to emigrate to the Land of Israel. Yet I see things like this all the time: Muslims and Christians who think they understand Jewish law and history better than Jews do. Yet another reason why Jewish sovereignty is so important!
It's infuriating. It's like you saying to someone "my back hurts" and the guy answering "you're wrong, you're back isn't hurting". Gaslighting.
There's an old saying: two Jews, three opinions. There's even a corollary saying: two Israelis, FIVE opinions. In any population large enough, you can find some random asshole taking any position you want
It's insane. They love to explain judaism and be completely wrong lmao
These Palestine historians have short term memory loss because Judaea was established in B.C. and hasn't stopped meanwhile Islam didn't start till 610 A.D. so I'm pretty sure it's always been Jewish land
@irsyadamir4166 you're doing exactly what the OP is saying stupid people do