The Apothecary is great,however a lot of Blood Angel players are upset he doesn't have a jetpack option. Also,that combat patrol would be great for Necromunda. Use the cops as Palantine Enforces and the rest as various hired guns,hanger one,ECT...
@@HippoEnjoyer Oh, my primaris-only siege specialist Iron Hands Successors with a love of hazard stripes? No, they couldn't possibly be mixed gene seeds, Cawl would never.
That’s my go to. In games around 1000-1500 I have a squad of 5 sword brethren, helbrecth and apothecary with tanhauser bones for fnp 5+. In game of 2000 reinforce the squad with 5 more and there’s nothing they can’t bring down
@GardenOfWar they're characters, but they have a rule where they can be attached to a squad even if a lieutenant, captain or chapter master model is attached to that squad already.
Holy shit! Jay I haven't seen your videos for like a year and haven't been playing Warhammer much either but this randomly popped into recommended videos! Glad to re-discover the channel haha!
I like the new Lemartes. He just looks like a fucking gremlin. Honestly, I like having things look a bit more generic, since that means they can be used for more than just their core chapter.
A sneaky move when bringing back folks with an apothecary is setting up that marine in the direction of your next charge target. It can be an extra 3-4" before you even move. If the datasheet would have 1-2 extra useful abilities, attach them next to any (like Judiciar) character, then i could see running 3 of them. Would be crazy with bladeguard vets 😂 (if it could lead them) Also. THE SPACE WOLVES NEED THEIR WOLF PRIESTS :V
Why! He doesn't even has a mechanicum army! And: Prime black, brush with gunmetal, wash with nuln oil, brush with silver, Paint hood red and Eyes green like he showed in other models: Done!
My thought on the box is...well... Its a lot of extra bodies, be it for KT, Necromunda or other stuff AND you get Flamesaw Priest without having to buy the Blackstone box (which is also weird coming from GW) plus some extra cool models like the henchmen, the puppers or that little floaty skull thing in the top corner.
Speaking of invuln saves, I've recently been playing a lot of AOS and I gotta say, I really dig that invuln saves just aren't a thing in AOS, you just have your normal save and ward saves (feel no pains) and that combined with the lack of a strength vs toughness mechanic (you just wound on the roll shown in the weapon profile) and the fact that fights have alternating activation even on charges means that it feels like combat goes at least 50% faster and is more of a risk.
I know it’s expensive, but sometimes I run 10 vanguard vets with jump packs, a sang priest and a captain. This gives the unit 50 S8, AP2, Dam1 with lethal hits, running Toughness 4, 2 wounds, 3+, 4++, 5+++ It is surprisingly durable and packs a punch
Fairly new to the tabletop side of the hobby, and I agree that apothecaries could be more impressive for regular space marines. That said, in Grey Knights (my first army that I'm still collecting!) you get that "One model back" ability on GK Terminator squads if you choose a narthecium war gear. it feels great to bring a whole terminator back into the fray!
felt like for a while the Primaris stuff was just trying to rebuild all the basic units of the Space Marines, and now we're finally gonna start seeing more unique units and chapter specific stuff
there are even 3 variants of the Adeptus Arbites Squads, only one is Battle Line tho, the Vigilant Squad which is basically a less good Exaction Squad. Still lets you take 12 Squads in total. With the new Codex for the Agents of the Imperium you can finally play an Adeptus Arbites Army. Hope they get good Transport Options. I kinda want to make a kitbash Arbites Judge (Inquisitor Rules). Tbh you could probably reflavor quite a few units and use some more Arbites kitbashes / alternate Models. That would be sick
Seeing that winged shoulderpad, the Captain could be converted into a loyalist Emperor's Children. Have you considered trying kitbashing something from one of the many 40K AU out there? Like the Dornian Heresy and so on?
i don't really play warhammer, i paint them a little bit but if i do its blood angels i am pumped for this and tempted to get more.... is this the start? is this how you end up playing warhammer?
Good for all but pretty shit for BA. Sums up the refresh. We lost chapter exclusive units in favour for THE EXACT SAME kit everyone else gets and the one bespoke unit we got left has ben trimmed and made uglier. Being sent to legends wouldve been better.
For me as a BA player problem is that Sanguinary Priest looks like another design of apothecary when he must be more of a priest and more blood angels kind of looking guy, design pretty moderate. Its good miniature but it definitely cold be more chapter oriented.
Another reason the sanguinary priest is better than a normal apothecary is they let him keep his chain sword! It’s always a bummer to attach my apothecary to my blade guard where I think the “get one model back” has some value, but like the blade guard ancient he’s not really contributing to the damage output of the squad and it’s a little bit of a bummer
if i get codex imperial agents and at 98 aud that is a big if during convention season I'll probably try and run an imperial agents force supplimented by an imperial knight or two (likely crusader and if i can run a second then a paladin). funny enough the plan already was for there to be a focus on arbites in my force before gw put them in the combat patrol as I have been part of arbites fb groups since 5th ed wh40k and I currently have two squads under way (one is waiting on me getting the exaction squad box for the spare weapons and the other is awaiting my finding the time to finish them after i built most of their unit from mini of the month models that i aquired last year during a pilgrimage of gw stores in my state and now have the bodies, accessories and parts to fill out minus any special weapons) but before i go full hog on arbites i need to know they are battle line in the codex first. no point my buying more arbites than i can field in the army. I may also get around to getting deathwatch stuff too, i've always wanted a corvis blackstar so i might add one to my birthday list
So I m a newbie . I just got the new Blood angels set and Im wondering when I would want to switch to Salamanders for example , can I do this with these models and if how can I do it ? I didnt assemble them yet
If you read any of the books in WH40k universe, guardsmen are like an elite soldier unit that mops the floor with any other non specialized infantry like PDF. And I'd say that PDF is way above the Arbites, because it's the actual military formation. So it makes zero sense for "space cops" to be any match in WH40k battles. They should be at the conscripts level.
Still not the Army I would run but when it comes to the apothecary I wish that they wouldn't have taken away the one from the Grey knights For 10th edition Because I'm sorry but that gene seed is kind of more important than any of the others And now when it comes to special to units like them all I get Is chaplain librarian and tech marine Because don't get it wrong I'm still gonna paint up one of my custom 11th legion built off the Gray Knights As one of them But I would have liked to have kept them so I could bring back terminators Once every bit
Blood angels Eversor assassin - Choose sustained 3 then 1CP for Red Rampage adds on Lethal Hits and +1 to wound (Lance). Lethal hits and Sustained do work in tandem - each critical is one lethal and two sustained hits. And of course +1 to wound on 6A, 5S power sword that is already Anti-infantry 3+.... Still trying to find a way to stack devastating wounds for that Anti-Infantry 2+...anyone? anyone?
The new primaris priest won’t be able to attach to Death company since the current one can’t (even though he used to, long ways ago in 4th edition). Ap-2 on regular assault intercessors on foot. Yayyyyy…😢 jump intercessors are once again, dead as damage dealers. So is death company. Let’s hope they don’t also kill of SG
That combat patrol sucks hard. As a kill team player I am not even remotely interested in getting 2 of the same teams in one box. I would much rather get the Ordo Hereticus battle force with the sisters of battle, sace cops and Inquisitor retinue. That way I get 3 kill teams, that sweet looking tank which I can use as terrain, the funny fat priest and Inquisitor Grayfax who I really like the model of. I did the math, if you were to buy all these things separately it would be MUUUUCH more expensive. At the price of this battleforce, you are getting the sisters and the Inquisitor kill team for "free". Unless of course you're like me and remember the time where 150 euros would buy you a whole army of orks. I don't like the other two battleforces, they just seem like an excuse to get ridd of some first born marines and I haaaate how short the gray knights look next to a real Space Marine. Although I'm tempted to get the Ordo Xenos force because I like the look of the starstriders and the navigator, it's really hard to justify the expense. I suppose I can use the deathwatch team to get cool bits for when I decide to make a primaris deathwatch team, but I don't know about that spaceship. Its much too good looking to destoy and turn into terrain, and its much too boring looking to motivate me to assemble and paint it. It sits in that limbo where I think I'll end up trading it. I'd love to be able to trade it for the dark eldar kill team so I can give all these imperials something to fight. Every single person in my local club plays an imperial kill team and I'm the only one who has a xenos one. Also, I just saved a bunch of money by buying some Stargrave models to make a rogue trader team instead of playing tripple the price for the starstriders, so its nearly impossible to justify making TWO rogue trader teams in addition to getting the short deathwatch and the silly spaceship. I love the Ordo Xenos but the marines really poison it for me.
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I JUST KNEW he had more to say!
How?
How did you know? I was thinking to myself... he puts out two to three videos a week, Hooouw could he POSSIBLY have more to say?
But how?? Was a total shock to me.
@@m31-p9s yeah exactly 😯
Oh my God!!! You did!
Im just glad they're putting more chapter specific deatails in these new sculpts, like the stylised greek muscle armor aesthetic
The captain is gorgeous, they really nailed the renaissance statue vibe.
Yeah, stoked for my new Dark Angels Captain in artificer armor.
What are you on about? He's a generic looking primaris mini.
Seeing the Sanguinary Priest as a Dark Angels player just makes me miss my terminator apothecary 😭😭
It was disgusting to play against though, having been on the receiving end of it, it's an experience i don't want to have again
@@clashhoyland9583the thing is, if a unit is overpowered, you should balance them, not just take it behind the shed
I require an apothecary
Give it to us.
Wow he has more to say? Amazing
The Apothecary is great,however a lot of Blood Angel players are upset he doesn't have a jetpack option. Also,that combat patrol would be great for Necromunda. Use the cops as Palantine Enforces and the rest as various hired guns,hanger one,ECT...
Nick and Jay dice? I want the Sean dice!! Those puppies would roll 6's all day everyday
Pls don't stop the opening lines. Always makes me smile to see you have yet more to say about your minis.
I appreciate the blood angels icons look easy to remove on the apothacary its too good a sculpt to be chapter locked
True he's just the better Apothecary model
The reason i wake up every week is to hear how Jay says “how” on fridays
Growing increasingly likely to run my Iron Hands successors as Blood Angels, give me the feel no pain.
You could always make them mixed geneseed if you wanted to lore justify why they use BA rules.
@@HippoEnjoyer Oh, my primaris-only siege specialist Iron Hands Successors with a love of hazard stripes? No, they couldn't possibly be mixed gene seeds, Cawl would never.
Starting Black Templars I plan to add an Apothecary to my sword brethren just to get the model coming back each turn
That’s my go to. In games around 1000-1500 I have a squad of 5 sword brethren, helbrecth and apothecary with tanhauser bones for fnp 5+. In game of 2000 reinforce the squad with 5 more and there’s nothing they can’t bring down
Are apothecary’s hero models or can you have like 3 of them in a space marine squad
@@GardenOfWar
They're characters, so you can have 3 in different units but at points cost
@@Mogeko_Ranger Aight thanks
@GardenOfWar they're characters, but they have a rule where they can be attached to a squad even if a lieutenant, captain or chapter master model is attached to that squad already.
Holy shit! Jay I haven't seen your videos for like a year and haven't been playing Warhammer much either but this randomly popped into recommended videos! Glad to re-discover the channel haha!
I like the new Lemartes. He just looks like a fucking gremlin.
Honestly, I like having things look a bit more generic, since that means they can be used for more than just their core chapter.
Stoked for full Judge- err Arbites armies.
The Sanguinary Priest should be allowed to have a jump pack but I doubt be will
If they’re good for all space marines, maybe you could showcase that by showing one off as an Angel of Ecstasy. :D
always a good morning when i start it with an eob video keep it up jay youre a very big inspiration for me
A sneaky move when bringing back folks with an apothecary is setting up that marine in the direction of your next charge target. It can be an extra 3-4" before you even move. If the datasheet would have 1-2 extra useful abilities, attach them next to any (like Judiciar) character, then i could see running 3 of them. Would be crazy with bladeguard vets 😂 (if it could lead them)
Also. THE SPACE WOLVES NEED THEIR WOLF PRIESTS :V
Starting a lamenters army this month.VERY excited for the new models.it’ll be a nice difference from dark angels
Day 42 of asking Jay to paint a skitarii
Why ?
@@Norseraider84why not? Theyre quick and tend for more fun methods of painting
@@Hugme778 It would be more fun to see Jay paint static grass than a skitarii..
@wickbom86 strange to say about what is probs the best looking basic infantry troop in 40k
Why! He doesn't even has a mechanicum army! And: Prime black, brush with gunmetal, wash with nuln oil, brush with silver, Paint hood red and Eyes green like he showed in other models: Done!
Any1 know the ticket prices for live audience?
My thought on the box is...well...
Its a lot of extra bodies, be it for KT, Necromunda or other stuff AND you get Flamesaw Priest without having to buy the Blackstone box (which is also weird coming from GW) plus some extra cool models like the henchmen, the puppers or that little floaty skull thing in the top corner.
You can buy the Flamesaw Priest separately now.
Frig ya , you put out a video on my Bday… your a legend bud
Don't forget about the Apothcary Biologis as an alternative
Gravis armour though, pretty distinctive.
Speaking of invuln saves, I've recently been playing a lot of AOS and I gotta say, I really dig that invuln saves just aren't a thing in AOS, you just have your normal save and ward saves (feel no pains) and that combined with the lack of a strength vs toughness mechanic (you just wound on the roll shown in the weapon profile) and the fact that fights have alternating activation even on charges means that it feels like combat goes at least 50% faster and is more of a risk.
I know it’s expensive, but sometimes I run 10 vanguard vets with jump packs, a sang priest and a captain. This gives the unit 50 S8, AP2, Dam1 with lethal hits, running Toughness 4, 2 wounds, 3+, 4++, 5+++
It is surprisingly durable and packs a punch
Day 3 asking jay to paint a tech priest
"recontextualising the Index" is certainly one way of putting it for some of the Codex rules.
Fairly new to the tabletop side of the hobby, and I agree that apothecaries could be more impressive for regular space marines. That said, in Grey Knights (my first army that I'm still collecting!) you get that "One model back" ability on GK Terminator squads if you choose a narthecium war gear. it feels great to bring a whole terminator back into the fray!
felt like for a while the Primaris stuff was just trying to rebuild all the basic units of the Space Marines, and now we're finally gonna start seeing more unique units and chapter specific stuff
there are even 3 variants of the Adeptus Arbites Squads, only one is Battle Line tho, the Vigilant Squad which is basically a less good Exaction Squad. Still lets you take 12 Squads in total.
With the new Codex for the Agents of the Imperium you can finally play an Adeptus Arbites Army. Hope they get good Transport Options. I kinda want to make a kitbash Arbites Judge (Inquisitor Rules). Tbh you could probably reflavor quite a few units and use some more Arbites kitbashes / alternate Models. That would be sick
You should run your templars as blood angels
I’m excited to see the codex
I was looking at some voidsmen at arms models and I really wanna get my hands on some to paint up the dog lol
They’re not “Space Cops,” it’s 20 Judge Dredds… You’re welcome 🤙
Celestial lions next please 🙏
The inquisitorial agents are a lot of fun to play because every model buffs the unit, but hope they don't axe the jaekoro and the little demon dude.
OUR space marines comrade
Seeing that winged shoulderpad, the Captain could be converted into a loyalist Emperor's Children.
Have you considered trying kitbashing something from one of the many 40K AU out there? Like the Dornian Heresy and so on?
i don't really play warhammer, i paint them a little bit but if i do its blood angels
i am pumped for this and tempted to get more.... is this the start? is this how you end up playing warhammer?
Yes, the models eventually hook you in. Welcome to the game
Soon brother, you will join the fray. Vengeance for Sanguinius!
theyve just added blood angels to tactius the mobile game and they look exactly like these models, especially the face of the apothecary model
Crimson Fists next, please.
We had a guy in 5th and 6th that played imperial agents and grey nights as an alliance and it was rough to play
Good for all but pretty shit for BA. Sums up the refresh. We lost chapter exclusive units in favour for THE EXACT SAME kit everyone else gets and the one bespoke unit we got left has ben trimmed and made uglier.
Being sent to legends wouldve been better.
The removal of Jump Pack from the Sang Priests really sucks...
For me as a BA player problem is that Sanguinary Priest looks like another design of apothecary when he must be more of a priest and more blood angels kind of looking guy, design pretty moderate. Its good miniature but it definitely cold be more chapter oriented.
Love that new preist.
Another reason the sanguinary priest is better than a normal apothecary is they let him keep his chain sword! It’s always a bummer to attach my apothecary to my blade guard where I think the “get one model back” has some value, but like the blade guard ancient he’s not really contributing to the damage output of the squad and it’s a little bit of a bummer
i need to finish my death guard army, but i want now lamenters from this models with little bit of kitbash
Finally! I can fashion a RoboCop Army worthy of OCP!
'the apothecary Sargent' 6:42
They are the Law.
I think apothecaries are almost great, they just need to be able to attach in addition to any other leaders!
That Audience is putting in some work.
Jay when are you going back on twitch so we can ask questions a little easier
the Captain looks good, but gives me Lieutenant vibes. He needs some more bling to be a Captain in my opinion.
They look good
if i get codex imperial agents and at 98 aud that is a big if during convention season I'll probably try and run an imperial agents force supplimented by an imperial knight or two (likely crusader and if i can run a second then a paladin). funny enough the plan already was for there to be a focus on arbites in my force before gw put them in the combat patrol as I have been part of arbites fb groups since 5th ed wh40k and I currently have two squads under way (one is waiting on me getting the exaction squad box for the spare weapons and the other is awaiting my finding the time to finish them after i built most of their unit from mini of the month models that i aquired last year during a pilgrimage of gw stores in my state and now have the bodies, accessories and parts to fill out minus any special weapons)
but before i go full hog on arbites i need to know they are battle line in the codex first. no point my buying more arbites than i can field in the army.
I may also get around to getting deathwatch stuff too, i've always wanted a corvis blackstar so i might add one to my birthday list
So I m a newbie . I just got the new Blood angels set and Im wondering when I would want to switch to Salamanders for example , can I do this with these models and if how can I do it ? I didnt assemble them yet
If you read any of the books in WH40k universe, guardsmen are like an elite soldier unit that mops the floor with any other non specialized infantry like PDF. And I'd say that PDF is way above the Arbites, because it's the actual military formation. So it makes zero sense for "space cops" to be any match in WH40k battles. They should be at the conscripts level.
Still not the Army I would run but when it comes to the apothecary I wish that they wouldn't have taken away the one from the Grey knights For 10th edition Because I'm sorry but that gene seed is kind of more important than any of the others And now when it comes to special to units like them all I get Is chaplain librarian and tech marine Because don't get it wrong I'm still gonna paint up one of my custom 11th legion built off the Gray Knights As one of them But I would have liked to have kept them so I could bring back terminators Once every bit
As soon as i saw that army set i was like
"Oh cool. A new black templar army set - ill just sell the upgrade sprues and characters 😂😂"
What about the Leviathan Apothecary?!
Imagine not looking at the amazing new middle earth sbg minis :(
Blood angels Eversor assassin -
Choose sustained 3 then 1CP for Red Rampage adds on Lethal Hits and +1 to wound (Lance).
Lethal hits and Sustained do work in tandem - each critical is one lethal and two sustained hits.
And of course +1 to wound on 6A, 5S power sword that is already Anti-infantry 3+....
Still trying to find a way to stack devastating wounds for that Anti-Infantry 2+...anyone? anyone?
The new primaris priest won’t be able to attach to Death company since the current one can’t (even though he used to, long ways ago in 4th edition).
Ap-2 on regular assault intercessors on foot. Yayyyyy…😢 jump intercessors are once again, dead as damage dealers. So is death company. Let’s hope they don’t also kill of SG
If you run Space Cops, it's gotta be Imperial Sector 99.
That's toight.
I dunno, kind of hard to be a cop in the 41st millenium.
I'd say it makes sense for them to be complete chads.
More Star Wars content please!😅
the combat patroll is a great way to get 3 kill teams going
Did Jay really ask why a squad of Judges is stronger than other infantry? They aren’t just street cops, they are THE LAW!
I'm surprised how often people think they're just space Sheriff Jimbo.
They're more like space Interpol/FBI
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BEST HOW EVUUUHHH!!
"You *really* should have the nipples."
Joel Schumacher has entered the chat.
Blue dice roll better, I see what you did there 😂
All new models are new salamander models
Not gonna lie now that the Dwarfs are out for The Old World I’m waiting for Jay to paint some more of them
Day 1 of asking coverage of Warcrow by Corvus Belli!
Carcharadons!
No one talking about how that wing is an Emperor’s Children thing…
It’s been used in blood angels kits since 5th Ed. So yeah…nah. 😅
That’s also the heraldry of the second company of the Blood Angels
Day 1 of me asking Jay to paint C’tan and more Necrons
That combat patrol sucks hard. As a kill team player I am not even remotely interested in getting 2 of the same teams in one box. I would much rather get the Ordo Hereticus battle force with the sisters of battle, sace cops and Inquisitor retinue. That way I get 3 kill teams, that sweet looking tank which I can use as terrain, the funny fat priest and Inquisitor Grayfax who I really like the model of.
I did the math, if you were to buy all these things separately it would be MUUUUCH more expensive. At the price of this battleforce, you are getting the sisters and the Inquisitor kill team for "free". Unless of course you're like me and remember the time where 150 euros would buy you a whole army of orks.
I don't like the other two battleforces, they just seem like an excuse to get ridd of some first born marines and I haaaate how short the gray knights look next to a real Space Marine. Although I'm tempted to get the Ordo Xenos force because I like the look of the starstriders and the navigator, it's really hard to justify the expense. I suppose I can use the deathwatch team to get cool bits for when I decide to make a primaris deathwatch team, but I don't know about that spaceship. Its much too good looking to destoy and turn into terrain, and its much too boring looking to motivate me to assemble and paint it. It sits in that limbo where I think I'll end up trading it. I'd love to be able to trade it for the dark eldar kill team so I can give all these imperials something to fight. Every single person in my local club plays an imperial kill team and I'm the only one who has a xenos one. Also, I just saved a bunch of money by buying some Stargrave models to make a rogue trader team instead of playing tripple the price for the starstriders, so its nearly impossible to justify making TWO rogue trader teams in addition to getting the short deathwatch and the silly spaceship. I love the Ordo Xenos but the marines really poison it for me.
You guys kinda missed the opportunity to make weighted cheater Shawn/Shaun/Sean dice. We all know Shaun is the worlds sneakiest cheater.
Still want a generic Primaris Jump Pack Chaplain 💀
Apothecaries go on big clusterfucks of Bladeguard, this is their only purpose.
He can't attach to Death Company
What worth is there in a character, that doesn't ride a bike.
Go back to the webway jagatai
The blood viles are for the red thirst not blood transfusions 😂😂😂
personally, the lack of nipples reminds me of an anime protagonist's chest.
Where is his damn blood chalice? Sanguinary priest can't attack to Death Company
on his belt
Next to the nades
Day 119 of asking jay to paint Death Company anything
Thousand sons pls gw
Not good for everyone else
Alpha legion
Night lords
Iron warriors
Word bearers
All don’t have any characters
Would be so cool to have a epic character for night lords. Also technically there is no Huron model to be bought.
The NEW Blood Angel models are a bit swish
a box full of cops lele
Day 2 of asking Jay to try 30K
If this show is about nothing, why do you give an explanation of what the show is about?
Jay are you sick? U are looking a lil thin. And pale. Keep safe brotha