I ran a Mac mini m1 with 16gb ram and it basically replaced my windows laptop. It never once ran out of cpu power. So an upgrade for m4 with trade in credit was a done deal.
I went and got the M4 Pro with 512 GB SSD for logic Pro Production. I figured I would future proff this purchase with the Pro. Never know how demanding the upcoming AI features wil be for all softwares. Im ready for it all
It's great to hear that the new Mac mini M4 will have 16GB of RAM. It would be even more impressive if the minimum storage option was increased to 512GB.
@@dk6343 Yes, those are the better choices. I hope Apple will consider increasing the minimum storage capacity for all Mac (or phone/tablet too) models to 512GB. Given that it is now 2024/2025, the continued use of 256GB storage seems outdated. ☺☺
I am using the Mac Mini M2 Pro with 16GB and Logic Pro on it. I also have those brakedowns to load a plugin or something like this... So a upgrade would make sense? But to wich one? M4 with 16GB or M4 Pro? 🤔
Please, if you get one and test it for the channel, don’t forget to report on fan activity/noise when working on CPU intensive sessions. I’m curious about how this small thing can handle heat dissipation. Thank you for your content!
I'm going for m4 mac mini pro 64gb ram 14 core cpu 1tb Internal drive. Im currently using logic pro 11.1, ableton 12 currently on m1 mac mini 16 gb ram 1tb internal drive. With sequoia installed. Arturia v collection x. Korg legacy 3 collection, valhalla, fab filter collection. All working great smooth and stable
The SoC ARM proprietary architecture used by Apple (developed by Johny Srouji) is the best ARM processor in the market and will be for decades, this SoC managed to combine performance, stability and power efficiency all in one tiny 3nn chip that can handle desktop professional works like a beast. Tiny but Shiny!
Good shout. I use 2 Intel Minis with my M1 Mac Studio and must confess the M4 mini laughs at my M1 Studio Max. If you’re using Logic or ProTools make sure you get the mini withe most performance cores. These DAWs in particular don’t get most from efficiency cores - they need maximum performance cores which is why Logic works best (until now) with M1 10 or 12 core. Saying that, Logic works really well!
Id be surprised to see how well a fan could be effective cooling such a compact box with the complex air flow that they show in their cooling animations - given that the mini has the PDU inside it as well... but when my MBP M1 needs an upgrade id be super stoked to grab one of these for the crazy value!
BRO tell me which one should I take Mac Mini M4 or Mac Mini M4 Pro.And I should take Logic Pro with lots of plugins also.How many gigabytes of RAM should I take and harddisk. 
Nice vid. Have you pulled up any big 96 khz projects? I'd like to start working in 96 khz seamlessly and also use these acoustica audio plugins that are cpu hogs. Any insight would be helpful. I'm thinking maybe I grab the m4 pro or wait for the new studio update. I'm just barely chugging away with the 6 core 2018 mini (works mostly fine in 44.1 and with a lot of plugs offloaded to the apollo).
I have ordered the base model config Mac Mini, looking to upload my first video on TH-cam soon. Great Video, keep up the good work. Going to be editing the video on my M3 Pro MBP. Earned a sub from me!
Can this handle a docking station and 2 monitors? My 2018 macbook pro 1tb storage 32gb ram had its logic board fried twice now cause i left it on overnight
Hello. Do you think a base model with 512 gb of storage would be enough for music production in Ableton Live since the M4 only have 4 performance cores? Thank you :)
Yes with one consideration: How many channels of VSTs are you using? If you're doing orchestral scores with thousands upon thousands of samples in your libraries I'd go with the M4 Pro model or the regular M4 with 24gb memory. If you're doing pop/rock/country/rap/hiphop you'll be absolutely great with the 512gb base M4. I own multiple commercial studios so I have first hand experience.
@@georgefloydtv. I'm going to make the case that Phil get's the 512gb SSD, because if you ever run out of unified memory (Mac's version of RAM) it will start using the solid state drive for memory. Yes it's expensive, but the one rule in the music industry is making sure to have plenty of headroom in as many areas as possible. Having the extra headroom will help with latency and various other potential issues.
@@PhiLiaSF Personally I think you're in good hands with the base M4 and 512gb SSD. Like I told the other guy, the extra SSD storage gives headroom for your unified memory.
How much ram does your M2 mini have? I have an M1 Pro with 16gb. The projects where I’m writing with sample libraries and mixing and mastering in the same project maxes out my machine. The 16gb of ram is constantly an issue with my projects. I’m using Komplete Kontrol and once I get past 10-12 instruments, my ram pressure is at its limit. I’m using Pro Tools.
The 14 core M4 Pro in the new Mac Mini has nearly double the multicore performance of the most expensive $50,000+ Mac Pro from 2019. This little thing is a beast.
Highly inspiring video! I have been thinking about buying the base M4 or M4 with upgraded storage for now and then buying M4 Pro maybe 6 months down the road? Ironically, my 2012 upgraded Mac Mini died (computer fixit dude said it was proabably the started and not cost effective to fix) two days before the release of the M4. Maybe God was trying to get me to upgrade. I was out of memory on that one, partially because I still haven't figured out how to access Reaper files from the Samsung T7 I bought for that purpose. Anyway, I have too much debt right now from breaking my elbow in January and having surgeries and being off work half the year. I was going to do the Apple payment plan if I can. But I have so many things on payment plans I don't want a huge payment. It's sometimes hard to balance what is good right now with what would be good long term. Any thoughts on if the base M4 would hold it's value so I can resell after some more money comes in and buy the Pro if needed? I need the computer to make more money...I am assuming the M4 will be enough but I don't want to be throttled. Was thinking of upping the storage though. Any thoughts from those who know Macs well and resale value?
No clue which streamer uses what machine as their streaming desktop, but I simply stated you CAN livestream with it. I’ve live steamed on a MacBook Air before so it can be done.
The power button placement is idiotic - were they on drugs? And who needs an Ethernet port? They better should have placed two USB-A ports there instead. Otherwise fantastic.
the moment you that you click on any, single upgrade option, the value proposition of this entire machine becomes null and void because apple's upgrade pricing has warped from "exorbitant" to "absolutely insane" upgrade the stalwart mac mini to 32 gigs of memory and a 2tb ssd, and you find yourself staring down the barrel of an $1800 priced shotgun. and for that amount of money, the mac mini is only still mini in size ready to be obliterated by similarly priced pcs. throw in 4070 Ti Super, throw in the top cpu on the market and it's game over.
@@bobbyboyderecords Yeah, that is a really sorry excuse even if you are kidding. Read Revelation Chapter 7. It's coming and it's not that far away. You do NOT want to dis Jesus. Trust Him - and trust what I'm telling you.
No offense, but there's nothing massive about a 50 track project. Unless you do beat making (and even so) recording a band will rarely bring you to less than 50 tracks
As a music producer you should know that music can be a blessing but also irritating. Your background music is totally irrelevant and unnecessary. On top of that it hinders big time my concentration to follow your comments that in itself are ok
I ran a Mac mini m1 with 16gb ram and it basically replaced my windows laptop. It never once ran out of cpu power. So an upgrade for m4 with trade in credit was a done deal.
I went and got the M4 Pro with 512 GB SSD for logic Pro Production. I figured I would future proff this purchase with the Pro. Never know how demanding the upcoming AI features wil be for all softwares. Im ready for it all
It's great to hear that the new Mac mini M4 will have 16GB of RAM. It would be even more impressive if the minimum storage option was increased to 512GB.
Agreed
I'm going to go for m4 mini pro with 1tb internal 64gb ram and 2 tb external thunderbolt 5 drive.
@@dk6343 Yes, those are the better choices. I hope Apple will consider increasing the minimum storage capacity for all Mac (or phone/tablet too) models to 512GB. Given that it is now 2024/2025, the continued use of 256GB storage seems outdated. ☺☺
I am using the Mac Mini M2 Pro with 16GB and Logic Pro on it. I also have those brakedowns to load a plugin or something like this... So a upgrade would make sense? But to wich one? M4 with 16GB or M4 Pro? 🤔
Please, if you get one and test it for the channel, don’t forget to report on fan activity/noise when working on CPU intensive sessions. I’m curious about how this small thing can handle heat dissipation. Thank you for your content!
Will do!
I'm going for m4 mac mini pro 64gb ram 14 core cpu 1tb Internal drive. Im currently using logic pro 11.1, ableton 12 currently on m1 mac mini 16 gb ram 1tb internal drive. With sequoia installed. Arturia v collection x. Korg legacy 3 collection, valhalla, fab filter collection. All working great smooth and stable
The SoC ARM proprietary architecture used by Apple (developed by Johny Srouji) is the best ARM processor in the market and will be for decades, this SoC managed to combine performance, stability and power efficiency all in one tiny 3nn chip that can handle desktop professional works like a beast. Tiny but Shiny!
its important to note the standard m4 only has thunderbolt 4. thunderbolt 5 comes only with the pro version.
is m4 pro 24gb good for light orchestra composition?
I don't speak English very well. Is the entry-level model of the normal M4 without Pro sufficient to produce music?
Honest opinion, should I get the m4 or the m4 pro or it's not necessary go for a m4 pro? Pls help
How big are the sessions you running?
I also own the M2 Mini Pro and I'm definitely interested in the M4 , BUT I'm gonna wait to see what Apple does with the Studio
Good shout. I use 2 Intel Minis with my M1 Mac Studio and must confess the M4 mini laughs at my M1 Studio Max. If you’re using Logic or ProTools make sure you get the mini withe most performance cores. These DAWs in particular don’t get most from efficiency cores - they need maximum performance cores which is why Logic works best (until now) with M1 10 or 12 core. Saying that, Logic works really well!
Bro, I have a Max as well from the same year. It's fine, The M4Pro isn't laughing at it.
14 core Mac Mini has 10 performance cores. It should be absolutely incredible for music production.
@@notsure1135Going by the leaked benchmarks, the M4 Pro is on par if not faster than the M1 Ultra.
@@ilikemyrealnameGeekbench show that M4Pro (14c version) is even fater than M2Ultra
@@MrDakti Wow yeah you’re right I just look at it again.
Where are u Keeping your Virtual Instruments like kontact? On an external drive or on the internal drive?
I have them stored on a Samsung external SSD
Id be surprised to see how well a fan could be effective cooling such a compact box with the complex air flow that they show in their cooling animations - given that the mini has the PDU inside it as well... but when my MBP M1 needs an upgrade id be super stoked to grab one of these for the crazy value!
These base chips have been in an ipad for the last 6 months without a hitch and it the thinest they have ever made.
It's pretty mind blowing , tiny little beast :)
i almost bought the base at 256gb but then realized its better to install vst/plugins to main ssd. so this videio helped!
or .. you can get a 2TB external NVMe drive for around $200, offering nearly the same speed as the built-in Mac Mini storage.
have base model with external 1tb ssd , performance's fine , i barely notice lags tbh
BRO tell me which one should I take Mac Mini M4 or Mac Mini M4 Pro.And I should take Logic Pro with lots of plugins also.How many gigabytes of RAM should I take and harddisk.

Depends on your needs, normally std processor , 24 gb of ram and minimum hdd and buy and external ssh for portability
Hi Ark,
Could you tell if the mini 4M pro 64 ram ,is enough for heavy orchestral projects?
For heavy orchestral work, you would need 128gb ram and over
Nice vid. Have you pulled up any big 96 khz projects? I'd like to start working in 96 khz seamlessly and also use these acoustica audio plugins that are cpu hogs. Any insight would be helpful. I'm thinking maybe I grab the m4 pro or wait for the new studio update. I'm just barely chugging away with the 6 core 2018 mini (works mostly fine in 44.1 and with a lot of plugs offloaded to the apollo).
curious if the m4 base will equivalent to the m2 pro qua processing power.
How often do you turn off your Mac? Mine in my studio lives on all day.
I almost never turn it off.
I put mine to sleep at the end of the day but it is never turned off fully.
I have ordered the base model config Mac Mini, looking to upload my first video on TH-cam soon. Great Video, keep up the good work. Going to be editing the video on my M3 Pro MBP. Earned a sub from me!
Can this handle a docking station and 2 monitors? My 2018 macbook pro 1tb storage 32gb ram had its logic board fried twice now cause i left it on overnight
I upgraded from an i3 2018 mac mini to a mac studio m2 max end June. I think I will wait for the M4 Mac Studio, only I want at least a 1TB SSD
How is FL Studio on the M2 M3 or M4
Yep, essential info
Is gpu 16 enough for content creators?
How many hungry Vsti fx or Synth instances with 16 GB ?
Ya. Imma wait until we get the M4 studio - and then wait until I can buy it refurb'd. Hopefully they keep the USB-A ports on the back.
Hello. Do you think a base model with 512 gb of storage would be enough for music production in Ableton Live since the M4 only have 4 performance cores? Thank you :)
Yes with one consideration: How many channels of VSTs are you using? If you're doing orchestral scores with thousands upon thousands of samples in your libraries I'd go with the M4 Pro model or the regular M4 with 24gb memory. If you're doing pop/rock/country/rap/hiphop you'll be absolutely great with the 512gb base M4. I own multiple commercial studios so I have first hand experience.
Get the base 256gb and an external drive and don't get scammed by Apple's horrendous pricing
@@legacyShredder1 I produce rock/electronic music, with projects with no more than 50 tracks, some of them audio tracks (guitars, voices, bass...)
@@georgefloydtv. I'm going to make the case that Phil get's the 512gb SSD, because if you ever run out of unified memory (Mac's version of RAM) it will start using the solid state drive for memory. Yes it's expensive, but the one rule in the music industry is making sure to have plenty of headroom in as many areas as possible. Having the extra headroom will help with latency and various other potential issues.
@@PhiLiaSF Personally I think you're in good hands with the base M4 and 512gb SSD. Like I told the other guy, the extra SSD storage gives headroom for your unified memory.
I use Reason as my DAW and don't have extensive tracks with a lot going on, would I be ok with the base model m4 mini?
Yes but I would probably get the extra ram for ~200
How much ram does your M2 mini have? I have an M1 Pro with 16gb. The projects where I’m writing with sample libraries and mixing and mastering in the same project maxes out my machine. The 16gb of ram is constantly an issue with my projects. I’m using Komplete Kontrol and once I get past 10-12 instruments, my ram pressure is at its limit. I’m using Pro Tools.
I have a m2 pro with 16 gigs of ram. I’m working with logic.
The 14 core M4 Pro in the new Mac Mini has nearly double the multicore performance of the most expensive $50,000+ Mac Pro from 2019. This little thing is a beast.
Crazy!
Transfer bandwidth is in Giga (b)it per second and not Giga (Byte) per second. So it's 120 Gigabit/sec and not 120 GigaByte/sec.
Doh! I’ve made that mistake before. Thanks for pointing it out.
I cant decide 24 or 48 gigs ram
64
live in a world where 16GB of memory is coming standart? 😂😂😂
Highly inspiring video!
I have been thinking about buying the base M4 or M4 with upgraded storage for now and then buying M4 Pro maybe 6 months down the road?
Ironically, my 2012 upgraded Mac Mini died (computer fixit dude said it was proabably the started and not cost effective to fix) two days before the release of the M4. Maybe God was trying to get me to upgrade. I was out of memory on that one, partially because I still haven't figured out how to access Reaper files from the Samsung T7 I bought for that purpose.
Anyway, I have too much debt right now from breaking my elbow in January and having surgeries and being off work half the year. I was going to do the Apple payment plan if I can. But I have so many things on payment plans I don't want a huge payment.
It's sometimes hard to balance what is good right now with what would be good long term. Any thoughts on if the base M4 would hold it's value so I can resell after some more money comes in and buy the Pro if needed? I need the computer to make more money...I am assuming the M4 will be enough but I don't want to be throttled. Was thinking of upping the storage though. Any thoughts from those who know Macs well and resale value?
The Mac mini M4 Pro is a stellar release from Apple. It beats a M2 Ultra ... wow.
Not in graphics. but otherwise yes.
@@PLANETWATERMELON more memory bandwidth on the studio. 400GB vs 273GB throughput. Memory isn't everything, processor speed is more important.
How much RAM does your M2Pro have? I guess 16 GB isnt sufficiënt for the music production you do?
16 GB!
the video that real matter is mac mini M2Pro vs M4 base model... because the 2p extra cores in M2Pro.
Better than i9 14900k ?
lmao ain't nobody gonna livestream on a mac 😂
name one single prominent, top-earning streamer that streams on a mac.
No clue which streamer uses what machine as their streaming desktop, but I simply stated you CAN livestream with it. I’ve live steamed on a MacBook Air before so it can be done.
The power button placement is idiotic - were they on drugs?
And who needs an Ethernet port? They better should have placed two USB-A ports there instead.
Otherwise fantastic.
Sleep mode is your friend with this model!
@@harbourphotography2152 Finda da power button - wheeere iss daa power buttonn?? (Monty Phyton re-loaded)
@@harbourphotography2152 In the next Mac Mini you must buy the power button as external dongle
@@b-music9329 😂 Yea it’s an on choice for sure.. especially when it will likely be tucked away behind stuff already with it being nice and small
the moment you that you click on any, single upgrade option, the value proposition of this entire machine becomes null and void because apple's upgrade pricing has warped from "exorbitant" to "absolutely insane"
upgrade the stalwart mac mini to 32 gigs of memory and a 2tb ssd, and you find yourself staring down the barrel of an $1800 priced shotgun.
and for that amount of money, the mac mini is only still mini in size ready to be obliterated by similarly priced pcs.
throw in 4070 Ti Super, throw in the top cpu on the market and it's game over.
Good video.I do worry about the cooling. Iwll the fan kick in during heavy CPU use.
48bit audio recording? Jesus fuck
Jesus died for you and this is how you thank Him?
I misspoke there. Meant to say 48 kHz. I record in 24 bit audio. Thanks for catching it!
@@kennethm.380 I am sorry, the priest did that to me when i was a Catholic alterboy
@@bobbyboyderecords Yeah, that is a really sorry excuse even if you are kidding. Read Revelation Chapter 7. It's coming and it's not that far away. You do NOT want to dis Jesus. Trust Him - and trust what I'm telling you.
@@kennethm.380not everyone believes if fairy tales
How does compare??? Mini pc are awesome too
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I’m trying to decide
No offense, but there's nothing massive about a 50 track project. Unless you do beat making (and even so) recording a band will rarely bring you to less than 50 tracks
None taken. I used to work with projects that were 20-30 so working with 50 is a lot in my production experience.
Mega
As a music producer you should know that music can be a blessing but also irritating. Your background music is totally irrelevant and unnecessary. On top of that it hinders big time my concentration to follow your comments that in itself are ok
As a music producer you should also know that it’s a personal preference. I will keep doing me, but appreciate the feedback.
@@arkoverloadthe music doesn’t distract me and I like your response. Commenter has a point but really needs to work on not being so unlikable.
@@adamsilver1223 It was not my intention to be unlikable. Words can sound more harsh than intended.
I tend to agree, it’s distracting.
Are you serious? That's what you took away from this video? Who hurt you? What a dead set dose why be so unlikable.
background music is awful.
Dude is producing for 25 years 😂😂😂😂 tschhh…
I find these « reviews without the actual gear » to be hard to follow. I’ll keep an eye out for the actual reviews, tho!