The Worst King in English History?

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  • @DrawnofHistory
    @DrawnofHistory  ปีที่แล้ว +601

    So what should I do next? Back to America or another world history topic? A specific figure or a historical event. And if you say Julius Caesar part 2, I better see a huge spike on part 1.

    • @anthonyminimum
      @anthonyminimum ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Ulysses S Grant or Andrew Jackson for America and yes please Julius Caesar part 2

    • @shavedewok2100
      @shavedewok2100 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      The entire John Wilkes booth kidnapping/assassination conspiracy

    • @klawiehr
      @klawiehr ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I would say anything with a good story. It doesn’t have to have a great impact on world history, maybe just “local” history. Amazing job with this one. I used to think King John was such a great and forward-thinking king for drafting the Magna Carta… hahaha…

    • @Michael-zi3kk
      @Michael-zi3kk ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Welcome back to youtube it's been awhile

    • @kodydenney6474
      @kodydenney6474 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I would do something out of the box. How about the Mughals or do how Rome conquered Britain. The conquest involves the death of an emperor and a new emperor has to save face by conquering the Britain.

  • @MinisDunyasi5
    @MinisDunyasi5 ปีที่แล้ว +1114

    2:02 Fun fact: William II could’ve been killed by his younger brother Henry I. He died after being hit by an arrow while hunting, under circumstances that remain unclear. Circumstantial evidence in the behaviour of those around him raises strong, but unproven, suspicions of murder.
    Moral of the story: If you’re in line to the throne and your sibling asks you to join them on a hunting trip *alone* *with* *them,* say no.

    • @Elyseon
      @Elyseon ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Par for the course when it comes to those psychotic mongrels. Reality puts even the sickest Crusader Kings players to shame.

    • @gasmonkey1000
      @gasmonkey1000 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean, he wouldn't have had any shortage of people willing to kill his brother too. William II was an absolute lunatic. He took a prominent role in the Harrying Of The North, a borderline genocide, and more or less acted as his father's enforcer. So when he took the crown his immediate solution was murder.

    • @KingOfHarlots86
      @KingOfHarlots86 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      😮...I need to plan a hunting trip 🚶🏿‍♂️🚶🏿‍♂️

    • @SRosenberg203
      @SRosenberg203 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      They weren't alone on the hunting trip. There was no such thing as "alone" in the middle ages. There were dozens of men present for that hunt, and I'm pretty sure we have name of the man who actually loosed the arrow: Walter Tyrell. Hunting accidents were pretty common for the time, and most historians reject the claim that Henry I somehow engineered his brother's death.
      However it is beyond dispute that, literally the instant William II died, Henry I rode to Winchester and took control of the Royal Treasury, so that he could take the throne from his other brother, Robert Shortpants.

    • @gasmonkey1000
      @gasmonkey1000 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@SRosenberg203 Yeah. They were pretty common but it was all pretty odd. William II was a brute, and Henry I was a very cunning individual.
      And I'm not sure if this speaks of the chaos or the Norman mindset or the suspicious nature of the whole thing but they all rushed back to their fiefs instead of trying to bring Rufus' body to even a small chapel. They left his corpse in the woods. Were it not for a peasant couple walking by he'd not even had received a proper burial

  • @CogitoEdu
    @CogitoEdu ปีที่แล้ว +437

    So sad that there was a pre-potato era for most of mankind. It's hurts just to think about it 😥

    • @DrawnofHistory
      @DrawnofHistory  ปีที่แล้ว +120

      That's why they call it the dark ages.

    • @MW_Asura
      @MW_Asura ปีที่แล้ว +16

      On the good note it was an era where the US didn't exist yet
      Jk
      Partially...

    • @mgthestrange9098
      @mgthestrange9098 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I think the people of the future South America would’ve been happily chomping on spuds at the time

    • @MissCellanious1
      @MissCellanious1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I fr think about this occasionally lol other foods too though

    • @mgthestrange9098
      @mgthestrange9098 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@MissCellanious1yes, there was no chocolate either, not in the way we know it anyway. 🍫

  • @VloggingThroughHistory
    @VloggingThroughHistory ปีที่แล้ว +1474

    Great work! Hope the algorithm picks this one up and you see a lot of growth because of it.

    • @DrawnofHistory
      @DrawnofHistory  ปีที่แล้ว +138

      Me too buddy. Thanks again for lending your voice. I owe you one.

    • @WaywardVet
      @WaywardVet ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Magna Carta scene. I put down my drink. I know that voice.

    • @jfournerat1274
      @jfournerat1274 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@DrawnofHistoryCan you please do a video of Johns grandson Edward The 1st of England. After all in your video on the Black Death you mentioned how Jewish people were often persecuted throughout history including in the Middle Ages and you also mentioned how they were wrongly blamed for causing the plague even though they had nothing to do with it and you also mentioned how in many countries in Europe such as Germany, Switzerland, France, Spain, and The county of Flanders the Jewish people were persecuted and attacked and killed during the Black Death and Edward The 1st is often notorious for persecuting Englands Jewish population and ordering their expulsion from England which expelled all Jewish people from England where they were forbidden from returning to until it was repealed in the 1650s and because of that Edward is rightfully hated for what he did to Jewish people so you could also talk about the persecution and expulsion of Jewish people from England.

    • @ghsthunter5
      @ghsthunter5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I Knew That Was Your Voice!!! So glad this came up after your video!

    • @larryforgy1702
      @larryforgy1702 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      We need a reaction video please

  • @KegAndKrow
    @KegAndKrow ปีที่แล้ว +736

    I always felt like King John was thrown in to a bad situation and it would have taken an exceptional king to have done much better

    • @howardlanus8467
      @howardlanus8467 ปีที่แล้ว +100

      Not to mention he wasn't exactly given the tools necessary to do the job. He had the skills to be a superb statesman and he was great at taking opportunities, but he wasn't great at long-term planning and some of his decisions seem like poor impulse control. Not the best combo in this sort of situation.

    • @ammunity6890
      @ammunity6890 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      @@howardlanus8467 I remember a little story about him. During his reign a child had accidentally killed another while they were playing catch with a rock.
      John found it extremely interesting and involved himself heavily in the court proceedings.
      This is what I love about the angevin kinga from now on. You get such a great read on their personality from stories and anecdotes it's great.
      Like Henry 2nd getting so angry he'd roll around on the floor, ripping the straw from his sheets and chewing it.
      Or Richard on 3rd crusade going out of his way to out do phillip.
      Phillip "you will bring me a rock for my trebuchet, and I will give you one gold coin."
      Richard "two gold coins 🗿"
      Or when they both came down with the same disease Phillip was bedridden, while Richard was out on the front lines in a stretcher.
      Richard was a fuckin mad lad I can't deny, absolute legend.

    • @Dimera09
      @Dimera09 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@ammunity6890great comment lol

    • @Nova_Fortuna
      @Nova_Fortuna ปีที่แล้ว +10

      John was an awful king, duplicitous and stupid. Easily the worst king in English history

    • @dragonmandestructinator2847
      @dragonmandestructinator2847 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Kinda like James Buchanan. Leaders that were very much not up to the situation they found themselves in.

  • @DougGlendower
    @DougGlendower ปีที่แล้ว +2805

    Counterpoint: Richard the Lionheart was a vainglorious king who abandoned his kingdom to go play warrior monk, bankrupted the country, ignored his obligations, and then let John deal with the fallout after being treated like crap by his family and yet still tried to hold shit together.

    • @rexblade504
      @rexblade504 ปีที่แล้ว +226

      #JusticeForJohn

    • @herrikudo
      @herrikudo ปีที่แล้ว +482

      Yes but he bullied the fox and the bear in sherwood forest and brainwashed richard with a hypnotist snake....

    • @DougGlendower
      @DougGlendower ปีที่แล้ว +140

      @@herrikudo Fair point. But John did sound like Peter Ustinov, CHECKMATE.

    • @herrikudo
      @herrikudo ปีที่แล้ว +79

      @@DougGlendower damn and curses... foiled again

    • @crownprincesebastianjohano7069
      @crownprincesebastianjohano7069 ปีที่แล้ว +138

      First off, Richard going off on Crusade didn't happen in a vacuum, nor was he unique. It was expected of him to do so. So it wasn't a whim, nor proof he was singularly inept. Indeed, Philip broke the Church mandated peace, and that was the real cause of the chaos that occurred while Richard was in captivity. In any event, Richard, after his release had reconstituted order in his realms and set his finances back towards order. Had he lived, things would have remained stabilized very well and recovered. Moreover, he would probably have enlarged his domains. So, John didn't inherit a mess per se, however, he quickly threw the realms into chaos due to his mismanagement of his nobles that had major cascade effects on taxation and then the military situation. It may not have been fatal had he faced a more average French King, but unfortunately, Philip was very smart and he quickly unraveled the English holdings in France. There is no excuse for John. He was singularly cruel and capricious even by the standards of the day and broke many conventions, including murdering his own nephew.

  • @gusbussolano03
    @gusbussolano03 ปีที่แล้ว +288

    "If you stay loyal to me, I'll make sure the McRib is a permanent menu item." - King John of England, some fuckin time in the 1200s

    • @joshuasepeda3289
      @joshuasepeda3289 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      He's got my vote. 👍

    • @jacquelinecallejas1390
      @jacquelinecallejas1390 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      See I've never understood. People WANT it so why not give it to them? I miss the McRib still. Last time I had it was over 10 years ago where I wandered into a McDonalds in the Bronx by sheer luck and they had it. I went back for a week until they ran out.

    • @joshuasepeda3289
      @joshuasepeda3289 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @jacquelinecallejas1390 From what I've heard, it seems the Mcrib isn't popular enough to make it a permanent menu item. It's easily my favorite McDonald's item.

    • @KRDecade2009
      @KRDecade2009 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@joshuasepeda3289but it’s a permanent menu item in Germany and Luxembourg!

    • @nealmaxwell790
      @nealmaxwell790 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      “Who the fuck do do you think you are John!?” -Ronald McDonald

  • @GBfanatic15
    @GBfanatic15 ปีที่แล้ว +806

    fun fact: you CAN actually die of a broken heart...as in sometimes grief causes actual heart strings to break and you can die from that.

    • @hainleysimpson1507
      @hainleysimpson1507 ปีที่แล้ว +97

      Emotional pain activates the same nerves, as physical injury and mauled limbs.

    • @Wumbo_the_Mumbo
      @Wumbo_the_Mumbo ปีที่แล้ว +58

      That's what killed my grandfather. He made it about 6 months after his wife passed.

    • @dreamersdisease2481
      @dreamersdisease2481 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      The pain can be so much your heart can't bear the weight

    • @onagaali2024
      @onagaali2024 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      I highly agree with you. I think that's what happened to Katherine of Aragon in 1536.

    • @jacquelinecallejas1390
      @jacquelinecallejas1390 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@Wumbo_the_Mumbo I'm not a big sports fan so I can't remember the name but I remember hearing the story of a baseball player's parents where the father died and the mom kissed him on the cheek goodbye and literally died immediately after. Can you imagine? They'd been married for a long long time and literally died within 5 minutes of each other.

  • @keiththorpe9571
    @keiththorpe9571 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    William De Longchamp
    "That guy? He looks like white, windowless vans will be invented specifically for him..."
    That one absolutely killed.

  • @GeraldM_inNC
    @GeraldM_inNC ปีที่แล้ว +265

    William Rufus. He was so hated that when he was "accidentally" shot by an arrow during a hunt, when the shooter explained "I thought he was a deer" everyone replied "Works for me!"

    • @lewisirwin5363
      @lewisirwin5363 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      See also Richard II, locked up in a basement and tortured to death by his own mother

    • @whuuuut2035
      @whuuuut2035 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I know this is the exact opposite, but it reminds me of one of my favorite ice breaker stories, about how Dick Cheney shot Attorney Harry Whittington in the head on a quail hunt while sitting down, facing the opposite way of the quail, called it an accident and made Whittington apologize to HIM on live tv.

    • @crazyand2099
      @crazyand2099 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@lewisirwin5363 Richard II's mom died 15 years before he did, i don't know where you got this from.

    • @chrisbrown8640
      @chrisbrown8640 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      "Deer me ! I think I've killed him !"

  • @MyObessiveDirector
    @MyObessiveDirector ปีที่แล้ว +653

    The amount of history TH-camr cameos in here had me doing the DiCaprio pointing at the TV meme multiple times 😭

    • @DrawnofHistory
      @DrawnofHistory  ปีที่แล้ว +86

      History TH-camrs know how to party.

    • @MyObessiveDirector
      @MyObessiveDirector ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@DrawnofHistory you guys sure do! Can't wait for more videos from this channel I've been a fan since the Leif Erikson video dropped

    • @anyadouc9296
      @anyadouc9296 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@DrawnofHistory how about more monarchs of england?

    • @anyadouc2069
      @anyadouc2069 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@DrawnofHistoryking Edward i of England?

    • @alexanderkidonakis9185
      @alexanderkidonakis9185 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Because you wrote this comment this video was recommended to me
      Today I’ve had 4 DiCaprio finger pointing memes sent to me
      I was kinda annoyed at first but this is a cool channel so thanks

  • @Swissswoosher
    @Swissswoosher ปีที่แล้ว +662

    Imagine being so bad at being King that even your brother Richard, who spent about a total of 6 months of his 10 year reign in England, and bankrupted the country, is still considered the better King!

    • @SRosenberg203
      @SRosenberg203 ปีที่แล้ว +119

      That's precisely WHY he's considered a better King. An absent King is often looked on much more favorably than one who was there all the time. The Norman Kings of England up until John all spent a fair amount of time outside of England, overseeing their continental domains, Henry II and Richard especially. After John lost Normandy in 1204, he spent virtually all of his time in England. It's way easier to like a King when he's off somewhere else doing heroic shit or burning down French towns, than it is to like him if he's just *HERE*, ALL THE TIME.
      Both Henry II and Richard were more heavy-handed with their rule over baronial prerogatives and rights than John was, but his proximity was what made the barons feel like he was pressuring them so much more than they had been pressured by previous Kings, so Henry and Richard are both seen more favorably.

    • @Swissswoosher
      @Swissswoosher ปีที่แล้ว +70

      @@SRosenberg203 from what I learned in the video, John didn‘t seem as bad as he is often portrayed to be. Just very, very unlucky.

    • @SRosenberg203
      @SRosenberg203 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      @@Swissswoosher Yep. In an era where Kings were also expected to be warriors, John was just spectacularly unlucky on the battlefield, which made him seem both less Kingly and less manly to his contemporaries, which contributed to a lot of his problems. He also got into several BIG conflicts with the Church, as the video says, and since Monks were doing most of the recording of history at that time, they didn't have too many nice things to say about him.

    • @anuszbizsergetokommentek2171
      @anuszbizsergetokommentek2171 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Its because the nobility prefered a king that is far away from home so that they can do whatever they want. Like when during the summer brake mom went to work and you could eat cerial and sweets all day.

    • @SRosenberg203
      @SRosenberg203 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@anuszbizsergetokommentek2171 Exactly

  • @brachiator1
    @brachiator1 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    King John had such a bad reputation that "John" has never been used again as the formal name of a British king. His second wife Isabella apparently grew up to become a very beautiful woman. Isabella had five children by King John, including his heir, later Henry III. In 1220, Isabella married Hugh X of Lusignan, Count of La Marche, by whom she had another nine children.

  • @newton21989
    @newton21989 ปีที่แล้ว +167

    I learned about King John from Disney's Robin Hood...
    Too late to be known as John the First
    He's sure to be known as John the Worst

    • @bj.bruner
      @bj.bruner ปีที่แล้ว

      🎵A pox on the phoney King of England🎵

    • @solidonseraindogthetenth1679
      @solidonseraindogthetenth1679 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hahahahahaha!

    • @NoahTheAmbitious
      @NoahTheAmbitious 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      The Breezy And Uneasy, Snivellin' Grovellin', Measly Weasly, Blabberin' Jabberin', Gibberin' Jabberin', Blunderin' Pluderin', Wheelin' Dealin' Phony King Of England

    • @jessieeermit4599
      @jessieeermit4599 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      "A half hour before he knows he's there, old Rob will steal his underwear."

    • @Eryn-bf6qb
      @Eryn-bf6qb 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      YES!

  • @crystalp7242
    @crystalp7242 ปีที่แล้ว +304

    I’m pleasantly amused that not only does Cypher (Cynical Historian) voice a character in this video, he’s voicing the guy he named his cat after, King Richard I. 😂

    • @LibraDiCaprio
      @LibraDiCaprio ปีที่แล้ว +9

      King Richard bans all bigots

  • @anthonyminimum
    @anthonyminimum ปีที่แล้ว +160

    I like how you can auto-translate the CC’s from English to French to make it more accurate in how the medieval Kings of England would’ve spoken to each other

    • @DrawnofHistory
      @DrawnofHistory  ปีที่แล้ว +45

      sure. Whatever increases the immersion.

    • @woahtherebud01
      @woahtherebud01 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      That reply read so judgemental 😭

    • @murmursmeglos
      @murmursmeglos 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Technically neither English or French would be accurate to what it is today. Infact French had numerous regional dialects for centuries. It's an impossible task.
      Although what's funny is that part of John's campaign to get William de Longchamp (his brother's top guy) removed was based on his inability to speak English, showing that by the 1190's not being able to speak English was considered a major flaw by someone in a position of power. I imagine John speaking English in an attempt to embarrass and spite any that couldn't.

  • @omegon2540
    @omegon2540 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    "The royals are less like a family tree and more like a family knot "

    • @mingthan7028
      @mingthan7028 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I sometimes forget all of them are related and can claim each other's throne at any time

    • @joshuasepeda3289
      @joshuasepeda3289 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do you think this is why they had so many wars for centuries? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @jacquelinecallejas1390
      @jacquelinecallejas1390 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      After seeing the Broadway play SIX I read a little to supplement the info I got and many of Henry's wives, mistresses and would be wives were related. And his first wife was married to his older brother before he died although she said it was never consumated because they both fell ill right after the wedding but she survived.

    • @jessieeermit4599
      @jessieeermit4599 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      More like a family stick.

    • @Valeriee3058
      @Valeriee3058 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      İ like to think of it more like a family circle

  • @AlasdairLowe
    @AlasdairLowe 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    As a point, Richard III didn't drown George Duke of Clarence in wine, his brother Edward IV did. And George elected to be drowned in a vat of Malmsey as he was given the choice of execution method (after he rebelled again after his brother had already forgiven him once).

  • @apriljohnson7952
    @apriljohnson7952 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Great video. Minor nitpick, Richard III didn’t drown his brother in wine. It was their older brother Edward IV

    • @bricekimball5206
      @bricekimball5206 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      THANK YOU! Not a nitpick, accuracy is rather important.

    • @cl5470
      @cl5470 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      True, though Richard benefited most from it since he became sole heir to Warwick (the Kingmaker) when George died.

    • @jujubees5855
      @jujubees5855 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Facts matter. Plus there is no concrete proof he murdered his nephews. Or that they even died in the tower.

    • @tobymills7110
      @tobymills7110 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Or that it was more likely that Henry VII killed the princes rather than Richard as he had significantly more to gain from it

    • @jacquelinecallejas1390
      @jacquelinecallejas1390 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tobymills7110 I think I read they finally found the bodies of the 2 princes a few years ago. Unlikely they would have been killed and entombed in the tower of london without the King's express commands.

  • @guitarguymi
    @guitarguymi ปีที่แล้ว +168

    Chris from Vlogging through History made it into this episode. That's awesome. Been hoping he would join your star studded historian cast.

    • @DrawnofHistory
      @DrawnofHistory  ปีที่แล้ว +38

      We've been talking about doing something for over a year and I got to hang out with him back in November. Great guy so getting him in this was a no brainer.

    • @VloggingThroughHistory
      @VloggingThroughHistory ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@DrawnofHistory It was my pleasure to do it. Thanks for asking! Enjoyed hanging out with you too.

    • @bensoncheung2801
      @bensoncheung2801 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      111 👍

  • @rexblade504
    @rexblade504 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    He actually seems like a good King who if he ruled in a different time would have been considered so. He had to fix the issues that Richard left for him and doing so made him unpopular. From what it seems Richard was a great warrior which made him popular but he neglected his kingdom and left John to pick up the slack. John seems to be to have just been unlucky and did the best anyone could in his situation.

    • @dashieprodx
      @dashieprodx ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He was the best king anyone like John could've been.

  • @galloe8933
    @galloe8933 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    To see, or actually hear all the combined knowledge, and familiar voices of the History-tubers made this video worth the wait, so worth the wait!
    I feel like there are a few voice channels here that I’m not subbed to… I hate doing work over the weekends, but, I do, however, feel like the amount of new history videos I would get from the subs is well worth the work.
    I’m done sounding fancy in a stupid way…. Gear video! Is what I would have said if it was over, but it’s not, and that’s also wonderful.

  • @edsimons628
    @edsimons628 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    George of Clarence was ordered executed by his older brother, Edward IV, not his younger brother, Richard III. Even Richard's enemies recorded that he tried to talk Edward out of executing George.

  • @jujubees5855
    @jujubees5855 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    That Cnut joke earned you a sub. ❤
    Going through sad crap. First time I laughed out loud after crying all day.
    Thank you.

  • @fungerz
    @fungerz ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Great scriptwriting, that’s where it starts. Plus, awesome animation that delivers. I did think “Will this long-form format fail?” It didn’t; you didn’t. I love your work: educating, entertaining, and entrancing. Thank you so much.

  • @GlamorousTitanic21
    @GlamorousTitanic21 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    What about Henry VI? Under his reign the Plantagenet Empire’s holdings in France were lost and England was soon embroiled in the Wars of the Roses.

    • @Nolaris3
      @Nolaris3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Exactly, I expected it to be him but I guess most people don't know about him

    • @thenablade858
      @thenablade858 ปีที่แล้ว

      John came to the crown as an adult, Henry was a little boy. Also, he suffered from extreme mental instability (inherited from his maternal grandfather, who famously thought he was made of glass) and seemed to be more interested in education than actual ruling.

    • @xenotypos
      @xenotypos 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@thenablade858Weirdly, Charles the Mad's son, Charles VII of France, was a very capable king, and never had that illness. It just leaped a generation for Henry VI it seems, unless it's a coincidence. Charles the Mad's brother was also a legendary ruler (of Burgundy). I guess it was all or nothing for that family.

  • @KingOfHarlots86
    @KingOfHarlots86 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    "and DEFINITELY drowned his brother in wine" 😂😂WHAT?? !! welp i have some funny history rabbit holes to traverse now😂

  • @andrewobrien8325
    @andrewobrien8325 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Richard III didn’t murder his brother. His brother was a traitor and was executed under the order of their older brother Edward but as a favour to their mother, Edward let his brother choose how he died and the brother had a fondness for Malmsey Wine so he chose to be drowned in the stuff(TBF If I had to pick a way I wouldn’t choose that one but if I could swap it with Irn Bru then I’d be all for it) and was suspended in a barrel privately in the Bowyer Tower, for record at this time Richard was most likely in Yorkshire enjoying his lands there but also preparing for war since a year later he was battling the Scots and it’d been a war that had been building for some time(he didn’t have time to make a trip down to London to hang his brother by his ankles in a barrel of wine).

    • @riftvallance2087
      @riftvallance2087 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The method probably sounded more fun in his head

    • @googlesucks1039
      @googlesucks1039 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yep, also Richard III didn't lock the prince's in the tower either, that was a rumour started by William Shakespeare's play

    • @andrewobrien8325
      @andrewobrien8325 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@googlesucks1039 actually that one was started by someone else, I think it was Thomas Moore but don’t quote me on that, Shakespeare just went with it and popularised it. I hate to say it as well but the princes were last seen in the tower, Richard the III wasn’t the monster Shakespeare made him out to be, however it’s hard to deny that he didn’t help his case and that part is true. Who killed the princess on the other hand is beyond me….I wouldn’t want to say, there’s some evidence that the elder boy was already dying likely from a disease which for the time wouldn’t have been uncommon. The younger boy though….it maybe he was murdered because if the elder one died of the disease whoever was watching him would likely get the blame, so Richard, much easier to have both boys “disappear” than to admit that either died on his watch. Richard by that time had pretty much lost it, I mean he’d broken English law so badly that if he’d admitted that the Princes even had bruised knees, he’d have been in for the high jump, disappearing them was probable deniability. I mean by this point he’d executed Lord Hastings without a trial(lord Hastings was also not no one, he was Edward the IV’s most loyal advisor and everyone knew it, to cut his head off without a trial was a big NO NO and Richard wasn’t done). In the end I think Richard has been done dirty by history but he was no saint

    • @lewisirwin5363
      @lewisirwin5363 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@andrewobrien8325 Half of Richard's problem was the same as John's: He made good laws for the common people and tried to rein in aristocratic excess. Unfortunately, the commons were NOT the powerbase for the realm at that time, leading to Henry VII's eventual comeback.

    • @andrewobrien8325
      @andrewobrien8325 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lewisirwin5363 Huh? I didn’t know that about him…but it does make sense. I still think olde Richard made other decisions that probably weren’t well thought out but I think the we can both agree it was the perfect storm of trouble(and even though he lost, if it had been a footie match that morning of the battle, you’d have put your money on Richard but that’s just on paper….and paper can be torn up and discarded).

  • @lchg6028
    @lchg6028 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    One story I absolutely love about the Legend, which is Henry II, is that he wholeheartedly joked around that the reason for the hotheadedness of the Plantagents is because of their descent of a demon

  • @walboyfredo6025
    @walboyfredo6025 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    0:19 Nope it was Richard's older brother Edward IV who killed George the Duke of Clarence.

  • @glennabate1708
    @glennabate1708 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    He was a terrible king but if it wasn’t for him England may have ended up mostly in France and the Magna Carta might have never been enacted.

    • @SRosenberg203
      @SRosenberg203 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I mean, he was literally forced into signing Magna Carta at swordpoint, and the instant he was out of danger, he requested that the Pope invalidate the document (which he did). Let's give credit where it's due; to the Barons who came up with the damn thing, not the King who was coerced into signing it and whose son ignored it for the next 50 years.

    • @glennabate1708
      @glennabate1708 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@SRosenberg203 it went over your head. Nevermind.

    • @jacquelinecallejas1390
      @jacquelinecallejas1390 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Hmm. Sort of his loss was our gain. I mean if George the III had been a better king maybe we'd (the USA) would still be part of the UK.

  • @hismajestyharambe5691
    @hismajestyharambe5691 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    I hope you keep going, you will be right there with the other great history TH-camrs, it will just take time for more people to realize it

  • @josephfernandez8015
    @josephfernandez8015 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Henceforth, all toilets in the realm will be named… John…

  • @archerbyrne8103
    @archerbyrne8103 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Schwerpunkt made a powerful video on the reasons why according to him John was not. Agree or disagree I really advise anyone his Medieval England playlist, it's really thought provoking

    • @DrawnofHistory
      @DrawnofHistory  ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I'll have to check it out now that I'm finally done with this.

    • @agin1519
      @agin1519 ปีที่แล้ว

      I avoided English history outside TH-cam mostly, but I do vaguely remember watching something that said the next guy/ dynasty wrote the history and really stitched him up…Probably should go watch the other reaction vids before I comment…

  • @Rick79LUFC
    @Rick79LUFC ปีที่แล้ว +14

    King' John's nickname was Lackland as he famously was left no titles or land by his father the king .

  • @blindoutlaw
    @blindoutlaw ปีที่แล้ว +61

    11:52 “lads, we riot”
    The calmest Irishman ever😂

    • @DrawnofHistory
      @DrawnofHistory  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      That's an Irishman delivering the line as well

    • @joshuasepeda3289
      @joshuasepeda3289 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He can't be irish. He sounds too sober.😂😂😂

  • @college54114
    @college54114 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Man, what the hell. This is the most professional and high quality entertainment documentary I’ve ever watched on TH-cam. You deserve (and will soon have, trust me) millions of subscribers. This was hilarious and so well done, anyone could learn a lot from this about English, Norman and French history. I’m a massive history buff and I will be showing this to lots of friends and families. You’ve earned a lifelong subscriber! Keep up the good work and I promise you you’ll continue to grow and be blessed by the algorithm!

  • @AmidalaEmma
    @AmidalaEmma ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Richard III didn’t drown his brother in wine, his older brother Edward IV did that.

  • @mattandrews2594
    @mattandrews2594 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Correction: William Rufus wasn't William I's first son. Robert of Normandy was. He was supposed to inherit the throne of England but William Rufus essentially seized it since Robert wasn't in England at the time. William and Henry were actually the 3rd and 4th sons respectively.

    • @SRosenberg203
      @SRosenberg203 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Not quite. Normandy was given to Robert Curthose, and England was given to William Rufus, but that was William the Conqueror's intention with regard to inheritance before he died. After his death, they fought a war in 1088 which made Normandy a subject to the English Crown, and Curthose was allowed to keep possession of the Dutchy but required to relinquish his claim to the throne.
      When William II died, Henry I usurped the throne from Curthose because he was away on Crusade, and then when Curthose got back and led a rebellion to try and retake it, Henry I won and took Normandy from him too. And the second son, Richard, died before William the Conqueror so he didn't really matter lol

    • @mattandrews2594
      @mattandrews2594 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SRosenberg203 Nothing of what you said refuted what I said. And the war didn't rejoin Normandy to England. William Rufus was stalemated there, he only became its regent because Robert pawned it to him to fund his campaign on the First Crusade.

    • @mangot589
      @mangot589 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Correction. William Rufus was left England by his father. Robert got Normandy.

    • @mattandrews2594
      @mattandrews2594 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mangot589 No he wasn't. He hadn't officially been left anything by the time his father died, and the entirety of England was way too important to bequeath to a third son. He only got it because he was in the country at the time.

    • @crazyand2099
      @crazyand2099 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@mattandrews2594 yes he was, on his deathbed William I gave Robert Normandy, William Rufus England, and Henry I money. England's population was comparable to Normandy and it was Norman custom to give your eldest what you were given as inheritance and things you added were given to other sons.

  • @maryjones8944
    @maryjones8944 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Congratulations on your most recent video! You are finally being recognize on TH-cam for your videos on the platform with this current one. I cannot wait to see your next video on here. Keep up the good work!😊

  • @prettypic444
    @prettypic444 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    As much as John sucks, you've got to give it to him for inspiring so much Robin Hood lore and giving us SO MANY opportunities for hot men in historical dress

  • @zodiaczennial3676
    @zodiaczennial3676 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    This is one of the most entertaining history channels I've seen. Thank you for all your effort!

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I greatly enjoyed this video. It was really funny. Great to see you again Drawn of History. I hope we don't have to wait too long for your next video.

  • @annoyedbrox4851
    @annoyedbrox4851 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    quality content my man , really, i can see the effort you put into this, on behalf of the history community, thank you a 1000 times

  • @gourmand3
    @gourmand3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Another great video! Looking forward to what comes next!

  • @glory2christcmj702
    @glory2christcmj702 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This was a great video, I hope you keep producing more! Great historical information and content, with good humor and entertainment, made it enjoyable to follow along and learn more about the topic!

  • @MalikF15
    @MalikF15 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Wait a Drawn of History with cameos from other history TH-camrs awesome start to my Saturday morning😊. Also love having Chris from Vlogging through History taking the role of an Angry English Barron.

    • @DrawnofHistory
      @DrawnofHistory  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They are all great to work with.

  • @michaelstamper5604
    @michaelstamper5604 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    William the Conqueror, being the delightful, sweet hearted gentleman that he was, brought the people of England together by murdering and massacring anyone and everyone who so much as considered the notion of disagreeing with his every whim. Lovely fella.

  • @DAFORCEFilms
    @DAFORCEFilms ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Come on… we all know Alan Rickman’s best role was Alexander Dane/Dr. Lazarus in Galaxy Quest.

    • @DrawnofHistory
      @DrawnofHistory  ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Grabthar's hammer, by the Sons of Warvan, you shall be avenged!

    • @herrikudo
      @herrikudo ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@DrawnofHistory we gotta get outta here before those things come back and kill Guy!

    • @RaimoHöft
      @RaimoHöft 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      WELTKULTURERBE!!!
      😎😎😎😈😈😈😄😄😄

  • @Michael-zi3kk
    @Michael-zi3kk ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Congratulation drawing of History this is your most popular video yet you're finally getting the views you deserve keep up the good work

  • @dozensofeggs1608
    @dozensofeggs1608 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Tbh you upload just as much as oversimplified, don’t have even half as much subs, and makes better animations. So underrated. Keep it up man!

    • @DrawnofHistory
      @DrawnofHistory  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I'd be happy right now with a 1/10th of as many subs. If you know a way how to tell his audience to check out me stuff between his videos, be my guest.

  • @agedstring
    @agedstring 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I've seen other history TH-camrs like Oversimplified tell stories of Hannibal's crusades. And while I do think they are the best.
    You have the best delivery in lines that make me replay a section over and over

  • @jaydenesquivel3394
    @jaydenesquivel3394 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Is it me or the french king looks like lord faqaurd from Shrek😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @tysmith8209
    @tysmith8209 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    First DrawnHistory video, and it is fantastic! The humour has a perfect amount of spice! 😂

  • @sarahellie4113
    @sarahellie4113 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Keep making videos Mr Betts, they are amazing!

  • @andydufresnefromshawshank5866
    @andydufresnefromshawshank5866 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    40:05 I was so happy to hear Vlogging Through History on here

  • @tebo9334
    @tebo9334 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Edward IV actually drowned his brother George in wine, and George was basically begging for it. And there’s a decent amount of evidence, in my mind, that the Duke of Buckingham killed the princes. Richard III was actually pretty badass, despite Tudor propaganda.
    And honestly, John wasn’t that bad. The Angevin Empire was inevitably going to fall, and he was unlucky a lot of the time. And once it fell, England was gonna hate him cause they were used to kings with French possessions. John spent his time in England enacting “justice” and no one likes that.
    The worst king was either Henry VI, Richard II, or Edward II. John was actually looking pretty good compared to them, and I’d say overall he was both a uniquely unlucky and mediocre man.
    Edit: Also, John was commonly called lackland cause it was a joke is Dad made (hahaha Harry) but he was actually given Cornwall and named Lord of Ireland.

  • @hell8255
    @hell8255 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Edward IV drowned his brother George duke of Clarence in wine allegedly, for treason. Richard iii their youngest brother wasn't king at the time so he can't really be blamed for that.

  • @connerdalton8887
    @connerdalton8887 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Love this channel so much! Glad to see another video

  • @infernosgaming8942
    @infernosgaming8942 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow this amazing! Its like a mix of a documentary and a movie with the little in-character dialogue bits. Love it!

  • @michelleanderson245
    @michelleanderson245 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Actually it was Richard the thirds eldest brother that ordered the death of their middle brother...and he chose his method of execution because he didn’t think they were actually going to go through with it

  • @stefanmircetic8798
    @stefanmircetic8798 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    11:34
    Can anyone tell me what this background music is?

  • @Jameswebbtelescope7484
    @Jameswebbtelescope7484 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    40:07 he sounds like the TH-camr vlogging through history
    Edit: oh cause it was vlogging through history lol EPIC!

  • @mndrag
    @mndrag ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing video! Please keep making more!

  • @ToudaHell
    @ToudaHell ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My personal opinion is that King John and King Charles I were the worst kings in English history. The other civil wars in England like The Anarchy and War of Roses were based on differing opinions on succession between royal descendants, though King Henry VI would be No. 3 on the worst kings in English history. Both King John and Charles I inspired such hatred by his subjects, those with power not the peasants, that they would not only go to war with him, they also created brand new documents/ways of governance never before seen in western history that will forever limit their power. How bad of a ruler can you be to make people say no more absolute monarchs. Their horrible reigns give us the building blocks of modern democracy.

  • @RhombusJohnathan
    @RhombusJohnathan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bro this channel is gonna be so big I’ve binged all your vids in a day, commenting this now so I can look back on it when you’re over a mil

  • @Dimera09
    @Dimera09 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    First time I've seen your videos, I'm only 8 and a half minutes in and this is so good. Great animation and the childish tone of Henry II's ungrateful sons is so on point! +1 subscriber for you

  • @randomuser942464
    @randomuser942464 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Here from vlogging through history. I enjoyed your video, keep up the good work.

  • @jamesleriger7959
    @jamesleriger7959 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I still remember watching Mr Terry reacting to his own voice acting when he appeared in these videos. Now we get to see Vlogging Through History doing that now!

    • @DrawnofHistory
      @DrawnofHistory  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That would be cool. I'm not sure if VTH has reacted to a Drawn of History video yet.

    • @VloggingThroughHistory
      @VloggingThroughHistory ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@DrawnofHistory oh it's coming soon :)

    • @DrawnofHistory
      @DrawnofHistory  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      If that means what I think it means, awesome. You'll get no CGPing from me.

    • @jamesleriger7959
      @jamesleriger7959 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I’m honored that this conversation would happen under my comment! I’m a big fan of you both!

  • @HopefulHues
    @HopefulHues 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this was genuinely great. Wow. I expected this to have more views? Thank you for spending the time and effort to make this.

  • @str.77
    @str.77 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    No, Richard III did not "definitely drown his brother Clarence. That actually happened on orders of Edward IV and was well-deserved.

    • @RaimoHöft
      @RaimoHöft 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ... but no royal blood was spilled. 😈

    • @str.77
      @str.77 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RaimoHöft So.....?
      Why should it matter?

    • @RaimoHöft
      @RaimoHöft 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@str.77 There was that common rule around european nobles, one should not spill nobel or even royal blood amongst each other... so they were always good at finding a work around too unlife each other by obeying that rule... technically. Just saying... 😁

    • @str.77
      @str.77 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RaimoHöft Of course you have evidence for that? More often than not, there was no hesitation to spill "royal" blood.

  • @mikeymcgrub3171
    @mikeymcgrub3171 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    how did you find Ron Swanson and Rand Ridley for the voices of Richard and John?

  • @cba2make1up
    @cba2make1up ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This channel is such a hidden gem. Just some seriously brilliant stuff. Keep up the amazing work man, I genuinely hope you grow and I can't wait to see more ❤

  • @CliffNerply
    @CliffNerply 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is the first video of yours I've seen. And, before I say anything else, can I say holy shit bro, almost an hour long animated video. And with modern TH-cam algorithms. Just ... Respect with a capital R sir. That said, I love how well-balanced your anachronistic jokes are, and how you don't lampshade them. And you tell accurate history aside from that, in such an engaging and digestible way. Man, I keep thinking "what if we'd had stuff like this to show in schools when I was little", occasional adult joke in this aside. Please, keep up the brilliant work!

  • @hzoethetaco7492
    @hzoethetaco7492 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I think Charles I has to be the worst, considering you know, he literally got executed for causing a civil war.

    • @invisibleman4827
      @invisibleman4827 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I think Richard II and Edward II come close, too. Personally, I'd put Henry VIII at the top of the list.

  • @EJAXK13
    @EJAXK13 หลายเดือนก่อน

    “Royal linage is less of a family tree and more of a family braid.”
    Couldn’t said it better myself.

  • @carlajenkins1990
    @carlajenkins1990 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Now, in the spirit of the Worst Kings, you have to do Edward II. And George IV.

  • @whatsanenigma
    @whatsanenigma 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "Aged 14, he fought but lost, so Uncle Steven stayed as boss..."

  • @michaelerk4099
    @michaelerk4099 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Woah. 45 minutes. What a great piece of work. Gratulations for the result. Extraordinal!👍

    • @DrawnofHistory
      @DrawnofHistory  ปีที่แล้ว

      I love how it came out... and that it's done. On to the next one.

  • @charlayned
    @charlayned ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm now subscribed and coming over from Vlogging History. You have a lot of talent and this video was such fun. I"m going to be binge watching your videos now (historian, Antebellum history mainly, and Texas history.) . I'm looking forward to the rest of them.

  • @mylesjude233
    @mylesjude233 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome video mate, can't wait to see that second Caesar video 😂🎉

  • @DawudSandstorm2
    @DawudSandstorm2 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Left out his victories in Anjou and the fact he was extremely personally unpleasant, to the point that people quit his side while he was winning.

  • @amyrhees6527
    @amyrhees6527 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love this! You’re extremely underrated

    • @DrawnofHistory
      @DrawnofHistory  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks. I'll try to rate higher :P

  • @deirdrenugent1887
    @deirdrenugent1887 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Brilliant..new subscriber..hello from Ireland 🇮🇪

  • @zombiedprince08
    @zombiedprince08 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You’re amazing these videos are truly a masterpiece!

  • @joshuapatrick682
    @joshuapatrick682 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    how much blood in what seems like continual diarrhea should you produce before it becomes alarming?

    • @KingOfHarlots86
      @KingOfHarlots86 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Joshua are you ok?😳

  • @lawrencegcolemaniii7474
    @lawrencegcolemaniii7474 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "I won't let you down!"
    "Oh no, I'm sure that you will."

  • @sohflipz4439
    @sohflipz4439 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So glad Chris made me aware of your content. Love the work you do!

  • @DetroitMuscle
    @DetroitMuscle ปีที่แล้ว +3

    @7:40 Did anyone else catch the Caesar Pompey HBO Rome reference in Egypt?

  • @mikiasg8453
    @mikiasg8453 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video. Such a unique channel, please make more 🙏
    Subscribed!

  • @itarry4
    @itarry4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Really stupid that this channel hasn't got more subscribers and views. Honestly I don't get it the attention to detail as well as production quality you obviously put a lot of work in the channels where they do basically nothing have millions of views. Hope you explode and get the recognition you so obviously deserve. Love the little script on the banners by the way.

  • @benwanner74
    @benwanner74 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Subscribed and bell on! I’m looking forward to witnessing your growth! Awesome video man. It’s time to binge

  • @marianski8039
    @marianski8039 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You deserve more subscribers, keep it up :D

  • @aaronpatton15
    @aaronpatton15 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    0:20 first mistake. Edward IV had his brother drowned in wine not Richard III.

  • @SvenElven
    @SvenElven ปีที่แล้ว +8

    “IT' BRITTANY, BITCH”!! That made me chuckle 😂

  • @mistingwolf
    @mistingwolf ปีที่แล้ว

    Who plays William II? His voice sounds a lot like Jim Cummings. That cough at 14:10 sounds oddly like Tigger's laugh.

  • @GeneaVlogger
    @GeneaVlogger ปีที่แล้ว +10

    We're all cousins! In fact, King John is my 23rd-great grandfather and Cynical Historian's 22nd-great grandfather. King John is also George Washington's 15th-great grandfather, Barack Obama's 23rd-great grandfather, Martin Luther King's 22nd-great grandfather, Brad Pitt's 23rd-great grandfather, Mr. Beast's 24th-great grandfather, and Mr. Beat's 23rd-great grandfather.

  • @morganyoung3557
    @morganyoung3557 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The drowning Richard III’s brother George Duke of Clarence was done during the reign of their older brother Edward IV. It was also done because George was constantly betraying Edward, so if Richard even was the one to drown his brother (which is something that is still debated), it was done under the orders of Edward IV.

  • @DorchaEagla
    @DorchaEagla ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It was Edward IV who drowned his brother not Richard 3rd

  • @JulieWalton
    @JulieWalton 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I personally don’t believe that Richard III killed his nephews. But he 100% did not kill his brother in wine! That was their other brother Edward IV who sentenced George to death, its debated whether Edward picked the form of execution or whether he gave George the choice of execution. But whatever, it definitely wasn’t Richard!