I did this escape tonight. We started our rolls from side control and I was already gassed. I've never drilled or practice this. My only experience was having seen this video and I nailed it first try. I missed a few finer points but yes, it's easy.
Great video! I love what you said in the beginning about how it shouldn't be easy to escape in the first place. Firas Zahabi mentioned in a recent video how he'll roll with someone for the first time and let them pass his guard, if he can escape side control then he knows they have no chance of beating him. So many people are always looking for easy side escapes and then get frustrated when they can't pull it off on more experienced training partners, because they don't realise it's supposed to be hard and there's really no magic technique. Anyways, sorry for the little rant, just thought this was interesting:)
Yeah, people seem to get really upset with pins because they think they should be able to just run through a technique and get out every time. But the whole point of a pin is that it's very hard (or impossible, if you lack sufficient training) to escape. This is why in judo, where BJJ gets most of its pins, pins alone, held well and long enough, are sufficient to win even absent a submission or throw.
elenchus I agree, although its worth mentioning that the pin rule is in the spirit of the rules that make judo exciting. Can't have 5 minutes of a guy trying to escape side control
True, although I think the rationale is that if you can't get out of a pin in 25 seconds, you might never get out. In judo you don't need to go for submissions, so if you're locked in, you won't be giving up opportunities in transitions and sub attempts. Of course, in judo you don't actually have to "get out" to not be pinned, you just have to get them sufficiently out of whack as to not resemble a formal oasekomi position. I do found the inverse of this amusing though. I've known many people that have looked at side control or kesa and said "that won't work on me, I'll just push you off" or something like that and of course, they're totally doomed. They wouldn't get out if a BJJer gave them a year. But yeah, for me personally, I despise being in side control. I will often just give up mount because I can get out of mount with half the effort I can with side control. I actually feel much safer when someone has my back or mount than I do when I'm in a good side control.
I’d love for this to work for me. I have such a hard time escaping side control. Then again, my professor said don’t feel bad if you can’t escape side control on an upper belt. That’s why it’s a dominant position!! I bet that if professor Tom had me in side control and I did this I wouldn’t get out.
Good comment John and I agree with the dominant position/upper belt theory. Funnily enough, while I am obviously able to counter most techniques on lower belts simply due to experience, sometimes a cheeky blue belt or purple of mine will reguard me with this. Hence why I love it! (-: Coach Tom Davey
Hi coach Tom I would like to say I am a white belt 2 stripe and have a hard time with side control escapes. I recently seen this and tried it out. On certain people it worked excellently and other times I've had my arm trapped by the leg. My question is there anything to prevent the arm from being trapped. Thank you.
I like the technique a lot .Only problem I forsee is , if he keeps a tight 'knees in your side' side mount, it might be trickier to pull off. Gonna try it tomoro. Thanks !
Great detail about your side control concept , my concerns are you taking them in to a half guard , I don't see that as escaping the side control you are putting your self in a worse position ( quote you mentioned you would want to have a good half guard ) , escaping side control too guard or reversal would be a more dominant position too defend and attack , just my thoughts , would like your feedback
Yes half guard is only as good as your ability to reguard to closed guard or your half guard skill. HOWEVER it is much better to be in half than side control. From almost every aspect. Sure IDEALLY I would want to roll them over to bottom side control yet that is unrealistic and physically unachievable for many, much of the time, especially at high ranks. A reguard to half is a MASSIVE achievement....you should lose from side control...… Hope that helps (-: Tom Davey
No not so much as I am only briefly there and constantly walking towards the hip. There will always be counters such as NS or NS choke but to me the risk to reward ratio of this move is just too good to pass up! (-: Coach Tom Davey
If the top player is any good at side control they will have a tight connection to your hip which blocks your whole set up.. Can you show how you can use this with a long base and someone who has dropped their hips to the mat?
This is Easier with a long base opponent with low hips. Try it for yourself, you will see what I mean! I HOPE for a long base with low hip to set this one up! Happy training (-: Coach Tom Davey
You must create the space against higher level guys to get your hand in there! You cant risk them opening your elbow or clamping down tight so running your hips works very well to secure that far leg. (-: Coach Tom Davey
The last time i remembered and try to make this technique. The problem was that my partner did a very closely control flat on my body. I have no idea how this will work in such cases. There was no tunnel for easily passing with my hand under his belly.
Good question Paul. It is actually much easier in the gi so as long as your partner isn't already setting up the choke, it's a safe and speedy way to reguard gi or nogi. (-: Coach Tom Davey
I hate being caught in side control and most every video I see shows some guy on his knees holding the defender down. The guys I roll with, including myself, keep their knees off of the floor and stretched out so they are on their toes essentially. That is a lot of weight bearing down on your chest pinning you to the floor. It also allows them to move quite quickly. I can usually get on my right side but because of the pressure it makes me move slow, if I try to walk my legs and hips towards them they just pivot away. Trying to pin my right hand on their legs does nothing either because they'll just lift their leg up and smash my hand to the floor. I wish someone would do a video on this and how to escape. Escaping this when they are on the knees is easier. Not so easy when they are essentially "planking" on you.
@Keir Robertson bumping is a great way to make space, but you're never going to get that much space against somebody who is trying to stay glued to you
Inefficient and it temporarily puts yourself in tremendous danger from the other arm being attacked or mounted triangles etc. Danaher's v-shape elbow escape is superior in all aspects.
Them: *gets side control*
Me: well I guess I’ll just die now
I did this escape tonight. We started our rolls from side control and I was already gassed. I've never drilled or practice this. My only experience was having seen this video and I nailed it first try. I missed a few finer points but yes, it's easy.
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Every technique I learned from you works in the next roll I do! Gonna try this one tonight and see
this is terrific. I use a really similar escape to half guard in mount and I love half guard. Can't wait to try it.
thanks coach I have trouble escaping side control and north south I'll be trying this one for sure
Great tip with the hand going to the far side knee wedge. I've taught a variation of this and its is very effective. Keep the great content coming!
Sweet biceps coach
you right, xD
Haha hilarious! (-: Coach Tom Davey
Great video! I love what you said in the beginning about how it shouldn't be easy to escape in the first place. Firas Zahabi mentioned in a recent video how he'll roll with someone for the first time and let them pass his guard, if he can escape side control then he knows they have no chance of beating him. So many people are always looking for easy side escapes and then get frustrated when they can't pull it off on more experienced training partners, because they don't realise it's supposed to be hard and there's really no magic technique. Anyways, sorry for the little rant, just thought this was interesting:)
Yeah, people seem to get really upset with pins because they think they should be able to just run through a technique and get out every time. But the whole point of a pin is that it's very hard (or impossible, if you lack sufficient training) to escape. This is why in judo, where BJJ gets most of its pins, pins alone, held well and long enough, are sufficient to win even absent a submission or throw.
elenchus I agree, although its worth mentioning that the pin rule is in the spirit of the rules that make judo exciting. Can't have 5 minutes of a guy trying to escape side control
True, although I think the rationale is that if you can't get out of a pin in 25 seconds, you might never get out. In judo you don't need to go for submissions, so if you're locked in, you won't be giving up opportunities in transitions and sub attempts. Of course, in judo you don't actually have to "get out" to not be pinned, you just have to get them sufficiently out of whack as to not resemble a formal oasekomi position.
I do found the inverse of this amusing though. I've known many people that have looked at side control or kesa and said "that won't work on me, I'll just push you off" or something like that and of course, they're totally doomed. They wouldn't get out if a BJJer gave them a year.
But yeah, for me personally, I despise being in side control. I will often just give up mount because I can get out of mount with half the effort I can with side control. I actually feel much safer when someone has my back or mount than I do when I'm in a good side control.
elenchus I would agree on mount depending on the opponent, but definitely not on back control. Assuming he is at all competent
Yes a lot of [people prefer escaping mount than side control. I like Firas Zihabi's attitude presented above as well. (-: Coach Tom Davey
I’d love for this to work for me. I have such a hard time escaping side control. Then again, my professor said don’t feel bad if you can’t escape side control on an upper belt. That’s why it’s a dominant position!! I bet that if professor Tom had me in side control and I did this I wouldn’t get out.
Good comment John and I agree with the dominant position/upper belt theory. Funnily enough, while I am obviously able to counter most techniques on lower belts simply due to experience, sometimes a cheeky blue belt or purple of mine will reguard me with this. Hence why I love it! (-: Coach Tom Davey
I do this one lots, it’s an awesome escape!
Hi coach Tom I would like to say I am a white belt 2 stripe and have a hard time with side control escapes. I recently seen this and tried it out. On certain people it worked excellently and other times I've had my arm trapped by the leg. My question is there anything to prevent the arm from being trapped. Thank you.
Thank you Professor!
Thanks Tom! Just what I was looking for 🤙🏽
Genius can’t wait to try it
Thank you, coach!
Great! Thank you Tom!
I like it! Thanks!
Very good instruction!
Thank you!
Cranked this out the last couple of weeks with good success. How about a follow on from the position gained please
I like the technique a lot .Only problem I forsee is , if he keeps a tight 'knees in your side' side mount, it might be trickier to pull off. Gonna try it tomoro. Thanks !
amazing details
Thank you man!
"This is an escape I like to use on big guys", Who is considered big for this guy???😂😂😂
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when you initially turn away and put your hand in your holster do you find that you are at risk of having your back taken?
Thanks a lot
A great new perspective on SC Escapes. I was wondering, would you be susceptible to a N/S choke from there once you go for your "holster"?
Awareness of that choke is key 🔐
Quite like that.. cheers
who does a side mount and gives you that much space? I love watching these videos but not sure if I can use this technique.
This is a commonly used technique by both myself and my competitors. You may be surprised.
That different got to try this out
Doesn’t this leave you susceptible to a bread cutter if you’re in the Gi? Do you just have to go really fast once you decide to do it?
Great detail about your side control concept , my concerns are you taking them in to a half guard , I don't see that as escaping the side control you are putting your self in a worse position ( quote you mentioned you would want to have a good half guard ) , escaping side control too guard or reversal would be a more dominant position too defend and attack , just my thoughts , would like your feedback
Yes half guard is only as good as your ability to reguard to closed guard or your half guard skill. HOWEVER it is much better to be in half than side control. From almost every aspect. Sure IDEALLY I would want to roll them over to bottom side control yet that is unrealistic and physically unachievable for many, much of the time, especially at high ranks. A reguard to half is a MASSIVE achievement....you should lose from side control...… Hope that helps (-: Tom Davey
Hmm, if youre fishing for the underhook at the same time as your getting the danger leg in... I see instant sweep!
when you shoot your hand through to your hip, are you concerned about them moving to North/South?
No not so much as I am only briefly there and constantly walking towards the hip. There will always be counters such as NS or NS choke but to me the risk to reward ratio of this move is just too good to pass up! (-: Coach Tom Davey
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In normal scenario opponents knee will be touching the hip. How one room be able to create space to grip the knee?
If the top player is any good at side control they will have a tight connection to your hip which blocks your whole set up.. Can you show how you can use this with a long base and someone who has dropped their hips to the mat?
This is Easier with a long base opponent with low hips. Try it for yourself, you will see what I mean! I HOPE for a long base with low hip to set this one up! Happy training (-: Coach Tom Davey
The Grappling Academy good to know cuz I was just about to ask the same question.
Coach why do you run your hips in the beginning to do the gun in the holster?
You must create the space against higher level guys to get your hand in there! You cant risk them opening your elbow or clamping down tight so running your hips works very well to secure that far leg. (-: Coach Tom Davey
Would this still work on a hard surface?
I haven't been able to make this work when my partner goes door stop. Any solution for door stop?
The last time i remembered and try to make this technique. The problem was that my partner did a very closely control flat on my body. I have no idea how this will work in such cases. There was no tunnel for easily passing with my hand under his belly.
Easiest side control escape, now this is tricky
Love the look of this escape coach Tom. My only worry is that in the gi, with a trapped near side arm, wouldn’t I be at risk of a paper cutter choke?
Good question Paul. It is actually much easier in the gi so as long as your partner isn't already setting up the choke, it's a safe and speedy way to reguard gi or nogi. (-: Coach Tom Davey
I hate being caught in side control and most every video I see shows some guy on his knees holding the defender down. The guys I roll with, including myself, keep their knees off of the floor and stretched out so they are on their toes essentially. That is a lot of weight bearing down on your chest pinning you to the floor. It also allows them to move quite quickly. I can usually get on my right side but because of the pressure it makes me move slow, if I try to walk my legs and hips towards them they just pivot away. Trying to pin my right hand on their legs does nothing either because they'll just lift their leg up and smash my hand to the floor. I wish someone would do a video on this and how to escape. Escaping this when they are on the knees is easier. Not so easy when they are essentially "planking" on you.
wow i wish i lived in Australia
Wish I knew this guy's name, he never says it.
Can this work with someone wearing pants
This works assuming he gives you 2ft of space
I suppose the world class blackbelts I use this on have horrible side controls then...pffffttt )-: Tom Davey
@@TheGrapplingAcademy maybe I've been taught side control wrong, but I've never seen that much space
@Keir Robertson bumping is a great way to make space, but you're never going to get that much space against somebody who is trying to stay glued to you
Good luck with your opponent giving you the space to do that, there are many easier ways, this is not effective
Inefficient and it temporarily puts yourself in tremendous danger from the other arm being attacked or mounted triangles etc. Danaher's v-shape elbow escape is superior in all aspects.