"Certainties are,something you will grow out of, so why have & aim for a static set of certainties anyway" Great point. Just re-listening to this one.. kinda feels like a condensed pinnacle of all you've spoken on over the last year or so.. 👍👍 Thanks for the time you and the team invest
I'm now confident you and other youtubers (not all, but those that seek to help spread the gospel and raise up a desire to grow) are doing something right. I do not listen to John MacArthur, but I overheard him in one of his (I assume latest) sermons, that my dad was listening to, basically bad mouth youtubers as a whole and the people who listen to them, specifically the people who listen to youtubers as "proclaiming themselves to be wise, they are fools who know nothing" (paraphrasing). That's high praise coming out of his mouth, and I know he was talking about youtubers because he said the word.
When i started watching BTF i understood maybe 5% of what you said, over the last 6 months i would say that has raised to about 40% haha, cant wait for it to grow more as time goes on 😂 I came for the anti calvinist content and stayed for the growth content.
This is the perfect video to share my thoughts on regarding simplcity complexity and clarity. With all the analogies you used I would like to add what I'vew been thinking for a few weeks or couple of months regarding your content and complexity and clarity. I watched a video titled "Why Some Films Can Never Be Remastered" sometime ago and it made me think about how we approach scripture. The earlier StarWars movies were captured on 35mm film strip and this simple filmstrip can be mastered, remastered and remastered. The 4K and Full HD remastering of StarWars was on a simple 35mm strip and the complex processes to capture the film in that high of a resolution which allows us to watch the movie in higher resolution. The BluRay Starwars films were the 35mm film strips being scanned into 1920x1080p and the 4k strips are scanned into 3840x2160p resolution. All that information is coming from the 35mm film strip that the film was shot on. Rendering film flattens it into a single image and there's not much you can do with a rendered frame and StarWars I-III were captured digitally on a 2K resolution camera and rendered in 2K. So I-III cannot be seen more clearly than 2K because of the rendering, and to increase Resolution we would have to rescan the shots into 4K and render them which will take a lot of time and money to do. What I see Christianity has become today is a film strip locked away in a warehouse where copies of vhs tapes or dvds are widely distributed among church and people are missing a lot of information to help them see clearly, this includes screen tearing, interlacing, pixellation, too much noise grain in scenes with little to no light. Even worse is that people scan the vhs tape or dvd to their own device and they can have a lesser version than what they were given. You, Kevin I see as someone who goes to the warehouse to get the scripture captured on the 35mm strip and finding all the latest tech to be able to scan the scripture and make a master in 4K, 8K, 16K for future generations so when people are able to afford tvs and devices that can output native 4K, 8K, 16K ect they will appreciate that someone like you has captured scripture in such a high resolution, not only that but you are encouraging other Christians to go to the 35mm of scripture and make a master of that at the highest quality resolution they can so others can see the scripture more clearly. The thing about God being measured is that no one knows how high, how wide, how deep it goes and is the equivelant of trying to count all the grains captured on a frame of film strip, people want to count the interlaced lines and pixels they can see on the TV screen and think they have their heads wrapped around God and scripture, but scripture isn't about how mant interlaced lines or pixels that can be seen, its about how people capture or master the scriptures by the resolution they scan it, but not just that but colour correct, redo effects, maybe even recapture some scenes, and the goal of all this is to present scripture in a way that people can see it more clearly. Happy New Year and may you and Paula have a blessed 2024!
Bro, I remembered I was in a reformed group on Facebook, so I popped in for a few just to people watch... Someone had posted, "Is it a sin to bring their own candy into a movie?" People were actually giving serious responses. 😭😭😭 I said... only if it is rated R 😂😂😂 But it just shows me that the modern church is turning ppls brains into mash potato.
@lindamash4392 if someone asked me that, I would ask them back, how well have you loved your wife and kids today, who have you demonstrated Christ love to today, who did you provoke to thought about Christ & spirituality, who have you interacted with in a humble way such that you learned something or were able to see God through the interaction.
I've been thinking about the analogy of the coal and the diamond, and it seems to me to trade in generalities. If you specify what is meant by 'they're the same,' it quickly falls apart. For example, if I said, 'Me and the neighbor's dog are the same thing,' and by that, I mean we're both going to die one day, that's fine. However, unless I delineate what is meant by what I said, the statement is practically worthless. But you could say i'm just missing the point of the analogy which is fine.
yeah, i was more so thinking about the way in which the analogy applied to the trinity because of your introductory remark to the analogy sorry if i wasn't clear.@@KevinThompson1611
Neither is this phrase to be used as evidence for the questionable doctrine of divine simplicity, which is often argued by those of a Calvinistic persuasion, in my limited experience anyway. It says that God is indivisible. Great.
So... I have a question. Paul uses terms (and Peter and John as well) like Romans 6 for instance "knowing" that you were crucified with Christ. How can one be in grow mode of being... instead of having if Paul is telling us to operate under the assumption and acknowledgement of "knowing" a certain proposition Like I died and was risen with Christ... I mean... isn't "having" that axiomatic certainty the basis on growing in sanctification?
Propositions are an essential and valuable form of communication. Unlike the modern apostate church where knowing something is the goal, especially the “right” or “orthodox” thing, they are used by Paul as a basis to DO something a certain way and with a certain mindset. I’m working on a slide deck for Philippians right now. There are a lot of propositions in there, but ultimately, they are aligned in some exemplary narrative structures to provoke the reader to DO something. Philippians 4:9 (KJV) 9 Those things, which ye have both learned, and received, and heard, and seen in me, DO: and the God of peace shall be with you. In Mammon church, “knowing” something is more or less the accomplishment: Ideological colonization of the mind. But in the WAY that is Christ, knowing something is simply a basis for what should follow: appropriately contextualized action. In mammon church, “knowing” that the basketball goal is ten feet high is success. In the WAY that is Christ, knowing that the goal is ten feet high is merely preparatory for the action that should follow. The goal in my driveway has adjustable height. So when we lower the goal to 8 feet, we don’t flip out about how unorthodox it is. We adapt to the difference, mentally note and KNOW the difference and the new height, then we play an adjusted game. Knowing propositions is an input to a process that should follow, not the end state. So, Romans 6, KNOWING that we’ve had an ego death, we should no longer act in service to the things that comprised our previous ego which died. BEING that new creature underneath the shed ego is the goal. USING propositions to provoke one to such along the way is beneficial. HAVING axiomatic certainty without realizing what it is supposed to provoke one toward can actually bolster the ego (old man), preventing the ego death, preventing the reality of it being crucified with Christ. We should no longer be the servants of “missing the mark.” If a person is rivalrous and likes to weaponize information, they can do all of that weaponization with Biblical information. So HAVING that information cannot be the end state. Applying it by means of phronesis is the key.
I agree with Chandler Farley, love Tom Cowan and friends!! Also Kevin, what do you think of Steve Gregg? I think he might be right about a lot of things.
@@KevinThompson1611 Leighton flowers mentioned him once and now I listen to his videos. He is against Calvinism but use to be dispensational and has changed on that and other things. Very interesting!
At 33:23 when you start talking about meditation....Im completely lost with your comments. Is there something im not understanding?.......why would a guided meditation where a guy talks rough and cusses be good,fun and decent and you would recommend that? I really dont get it at all. Could you please explain this? Im really asking out of all sincerity. I feel like i HAVE to be missing something. I was really kind of shocked.
We just released our first meditation yesterday, and it is tame and family friendly. Different things work for different folks. th-cam.com/video/1CX33-1iqSE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=FrHt4FdhfJ2648sT
Ok thanks,Kevin, for responding but still need more clarification please. If cussing "works" for some Christians, shouldn't that be something that doesn't "work"? Wouldn't that be something we should try not to do as we grow in sanctification? I mean isn't cruel rough language and cussing a sin? I realize words are just words and can change but don't you kind of go by the meaning of words in the culture? I mean what we call "cuss" words in the culture today are looked down on in a professional setting or in schools, by children. Why would a Christian want to accept this in their own vocabulary , let alone in a meditation practice? I still don't get it.
Makes me think of the Einstein quote,
"Make things as simple as possible, but no simpler."
Way to go Kevin!
Keep on "refining" and expanding your inquiry into transformational growth.
I'm looking forward to your series on lensing...
"Replaces effectiveness with beliefs which make you feel righteous." Yeah, that's my experience. Nailed it.
"Certainties are,something you will grow out of, so why have & aim for a static set of certainties anyway"
Great point.
Just re-listening to this one.. kinda feels like a condensed pinnacle of all you've spoken on over the last year or so.. 👍👍
Thanks for the time you and the team invest
I'm now confident you and other youtubers (not all, but those that seek to help spread the gospel and raise up a desire to grow) are doing something right. I do not listen to John MacArthur, but I overheard him in one of his (I assume latest) sermons, that my dad was listening to, basically bad mouth youtubers as a whole and the people who listen to them, specifically the people who listen to youtubers as "proclaiming themselves to be wise, they are fools who know nothing" (paraphrasing). That's high praise coming out of his mouth, and I know he was talking about youtubers because he said the word.
I like your new background, Kevin! Happy New Year to you and Paula, may the Lord continue to bless you both in 2024. Love from Canada 🇨🇦
Thank you!
What province do you attend Janet? And what's your story that brought you to this channel?
When i started watching BTF i understood maybe 5% of what you said, over the last 6 months i would say that has raised to about 40% haha, cant wait for it to grow more as time goes on 😂
I came for the anti calvinist content and stayed for the growth content.
Thanks for sharing. I hear this message frequently. Its very encouragingn and means lot. Live tht we can all help each other grow and develop.
I'm glad you removed the Globe earth background brother Kevin lol..Love from Kenya
This is the perfect video to share my thoughts on regarding simplcity complexity and clarity. With all the analogies you used I would like to add what I'vew been thinking for a few weeks or couple of months regarding your content and complexity and clarity. I watched a video titled "Why Some Films Can Never Be Remastered" sometime ago and it made me think about how we approach scripture. The earlier StarWars movies were captured on 35mm film strip and this simple filmstrip can be mastered, remastered and remastered. The 4K and Full HD remastering of StarWars was on a simple 35mm strip and the complex processes to capture the film in that high of a resolution which allows us to watch the movie in higher resolution. The BluRay Starwars films were the 35mm film strips being scanned into 1920x1080p and the 4k strips are scanned into 3840x2160p resolution. All that information is coming from the 35mm film strip that the film was shot on. Rendering film flattens it into a single image and there's not much you can do with a rendered frame and StarWars I-III were captured digitally on a 2K resolution camera and rendered in 2K. So I-III cannot be seen more clearly than 2K because of the rendering, and to increase Resolution we would have to rescan the shots into 4K and render them which will take a lot of time and money to do.
What I see Christianity has become today is a film strip locked away in a warehouse where copies of vhs tapes or dvds are widely distributed among church and people are missing a lot of information to help them see clearly, this includes screen tearing, interlacing, pixellation, too much noise grain in scenes with little to no light. Even worse is that people scan the vhs tape or dvd to their own device and they can have a lesser version than what they were given.
You, Kevin I see as someone who goes to the warehouse to get the scripture captured on the 35mm strip and finding all the latest tech to be able to scan the scripture and make a master in 4K, 8K, 16K for future generations so when people are able to afford tvs and devices that can output native 4K, 8K, 16K ect they will appreciate that someone like you has captured scripture in such a high resolution, not only that but you are encouraging other Christians to go to the 35mm of scripture and make a master of that at the highest quality resolution they can so others can see the scripture more clearly.
The thing about God being measured is that no one knows how high, how wide, how deep it goes and is the equivelant of trying to count all the grains captured on a frame of film strip, people want to count the interlaced lines and pixels they can see on the TV screen and think they have their heads wrapped around God and scripture, but scripture isn't about how mant interlaced lines or pixels that can be seen, its about how people capture or master the scriptures by the resolution they scan it, but not just that but colour correct, redo effects, maybe even recapture some scenes, and the goal of all this is to present scripture in a way that people can see it more clearly.
Happy New Year and may you and Paula have a blessed 2024!
I was hoping for more of a positive case about what "simplicity in Christ" actually means
Unfortunately, it’s just not that simple..
🤔
Simplicity in Christ, or vulgarity?
You should check out Steve Hassan's bite model of authoritarian control. The way you are describing it, sounds like a "thought terminating" technique.
Bro, I remembered I was in a reformed group on Facebook, so I popped in for a few just to people watch...
Someone had posted, "Is it a sin to bring their own candy into a movie?"
People were actually giving serious responses. 😭😭😭
I said... only if it is rated R 😂😂😂
But it just shows me that the modern church is turning ppls brains into mash potato.
Well.... So is it? How would you answer if someone asked you that?
@lindamash4392 if someone asked me that, I would ask them back, how well have you loved your wife and kids today, who have you demonstrated Christ love to today, who did you provoke to thought about Christ & spirituality, who have you interacted with in a humble way such that you learned something or were able to see God through the interaction.
Best video everrr!!
I've been thinking about the analogy of the coal and the diamond, and it seems to me to trade in generalities. If you specify what is meant by 'they're the same,' it quickly falls apart. For example, if I said, 'Me and the neighbor's dog are the same thing,' and by that, I mean we're both going to die one day, that's fine. However, unless I delineate what is meant by what I said, the statement is practically worthless. But you could say i'm just missing the point of the analogy which is fine.
In the video it was specified that the fact that they are both made of carbon was the way in which they were the same.
yeah, i was more so thinking about the way in which the analogy applied to the trinity because of your introductory remark to the analogy sorry if i wasn't clear.@@KevinThompson1611
Neither is this phrase to be used as evidence for the questionable doctrine of divine simplicity, which is often argued by those of a Calvinistic persuasion, in my limited experience anyway. It says that God is indivisible. Great.
So... I have a question.
Paul uses terms (and Peter and John as well) like
Romans 6 for instance "knowing" that you were crucified with Christ.
How can one be in grow mode of being... instead of having if Paul is telling us to operate under the assumption and acknowledgement of "knowing" a certain proposition
Like I died and was risen with Christ...
I mean... isn't "having" that axiomatic certainty the basis on growing in sanctification?
Propositions are an essential and valuable form of communication. Unlike the modern apostate church where knowing something is the goal, especially the “right” or “orthodox” thing, they are used by Paul as a basis to DO something a certain way and with a certain mindset. I’m working on a slide deck for Philippians right now. There are a lot of propositions in there, but ultimately, they are aligned in some exemplary narrative structures to provoke the reader to DO something.
Philippians 4:9 (KJV)
9 Those things, which ye have both learned, and received, and heard, and seen in me, DO: and the God of peace shall be with you.
In Mammon church, “knowing” something is more or less the accomplishment: Ideological colonization of the mind. But in the WAY that is Christ, knowing something is simply a basis for what should follow: appropriately contextualized action.
In mammon church, “knowing” that the basketball goal is ten feet high is success. In the WAY that is Christ, knowing that the goal is ten feet high is merely preparatory for the action that should follow. The goal in my driveway has adjustable height. So when we lower the goal to 8 feet, we don’t flip out about how unorthodox it is. We adapt to the difference, mentally note and KNOW the difference and the new height, then we play an adjusted game. Knowing propositions is an input to a process that should follow, not the end state.
So, Romans 6, KNOWING that we’ve had an ego death, we should no longer act in service to the things that comprised our previous ego which died. BEING that new creature underneath the shed ego is the goal. USING propositions to provoke one to such along the way is beneficial. HAVING axiomatic certainty without realizing what it is supposed to provoke one toward can actually bolster the ego (old man), preventing the ego death, preventing the reality of it being crucified with Christ. We should no longer be the servants of “missing the mark.” If a person is rivalrous and likes to weaponize information, they can do all of that weaponization with Biblical information. So HAVING that information cannot be the end state. Applying it by means of phronesis is the key.
@@KevinThompson1611 wow thanks man!
I'm looking forward to that Philippians breakdown! Should be very helpful.
I agree with Chandler Farley, love Tom Cowan and friends!! Also Kevin, what do you think of Steve Gregg? I think he might be right about a lot of things.
Never heard of him
@@KevinThompson1611 Leighton flowers mentioned him once and now I listen to his videos. He is against Calvinism but use to be dispensational and has changed on that and other things. Very interesting!
@@narellesimmons2701Agree, a non-Calvinist for sure. But seems to have a problem with the eternal promises to Israel
@29:27 - - it takes effort to grow. Why not grow in Christ?
it takes effort to grow in Christ. Why not put forth the effort?
@@KevinThompson1611, EXACTLY!!! Effort put in Christ inestimable rewards!!!
At 33:23 when you start talking about meditation....Im completely lost with your comments. Is there something im not understanding?.......why would a guided meditation where a guy talks rough and cusses be good,fun and decent and you would recommend that?
I really dont get it at all. Could you please explain this? Im really asking out of all sincerity. I feel like i HAVE to be missing something. I was really kind of shocked.
We just released our first meditation yesterday, and it is tame and family friendly.
Different things work for different folks.
th-cam.com/video/1CX33-1iqSE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=FrHt4FdhfJ2648sT
Ok thanks,Kevin, for responding but still need more clarification please. If cussing "works" for some Christians, shouldn't that be something that doesn't "work"? Wouldn't that be something we should try not to do as we grow in sanctification? I mean isn't cruel rough language and cussing a sin? I realize words are just words and can change but don't you kind of go by the meaning of words in the culture? I mean what we call "cuss" words in the culture today are looked down on in a professional setting or in schools, by children. Why would a Christian want to accept this in their own vocabulary , let alone in a meditation practice? I still don't get it.
You should make an old hymn album lol
That’s a good suggestion. Lemme think about it.
Where's your globe!?
Or have you been able to convince all the flat earthers otherwise🤔
😂 the globe background is still in the cue. Just trying different ones for no particular reason.
I concur with the Biblical cosmology of the earth lol(flat earth)
@@KevinThompson1611 Dont put it up