New 52 Wonder Woman
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0:00 - the story
0:49 - reboot time
2:32 - what wonder woman is about
4:31 - gods and themes
6:21 - diana
7:56 - conclusion
8:52 - credits and message
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When it’s time to start it from the end
I want to, but no one really wants me
Turn it ‘round and try it all again
I want you when no one really wants me
Is it just another disappointment?
I’ve become a footnote in your life
And I want to finally disappoint you, dear
Am I wasting my time?
I am wasting my time
Tell me, what’s the worst thing I could say?
“I want you, ” when no one really wants me
Tell me that you’ll have me either way
And I feel like no one really wants you
Is it just another disappointment?
I’ve become a footnote in your life
And I want to finally disappoint you, dear
Am I running out of time?
I am running out of time
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Heracles killing his own wife and kids was Hera driving him mad to kill his family, it wasn't Heracles's fault.
@@user-xt5wl6xv4s ?
I mean, he wasn't saying it was Hercules' fault he's just saying dude was made insane and killed his family, not some happily ever after like the Disney movie.
-It was not me!! The devil made me do it!
-Shut up and get into the police car.
@@danixove2358 I mean, iirc, Heracles is explicitly not informed of the ‘cause’ of the madness and repents, later to be killed by his last wife being _tricked_ into using centaur blood (apparently super poison) on his clothes as a gift and him expiring from that.
There’s enough explicit murder around that actual accidental homicide is (was?) _probably_ actually accidental.
Furthermore, a notable portion of the ‘worst’ of the god’s rep is due to a revisionist anti-authority writer named Ovid.
Son of Zeus killing his own family? Sounds familiar.....
The New 52 may not have been my favourite era for DC Comics, but I will admit there were some standout moments here and there, Scott Snyder's Batman run, Geoff Johns Green Lantern, Shazam and most of his Flash run as well, and I can say that New Wonder Woman had some great moments as well, even though my favourite runs are still George Perez and Greg Rucka's WW runs.
I think the most hated New 52 stuff (far as I remember) would be Superman and the loss of the old Wally West (which...is not a pit of snakes I want to go into).
@@Tuaron Yeah. Believe me, Ive read some of those and boy they were hard to go through, although I do remember really loving Grant Morrison's New 52 Superman, at least the first volume, after that, I don't remember much. I'm also aware of how they convoluted Wally's place in the DC Universe for a while and fortunately, the character has made a huge comeback and resurgence in popularity, especially with Jeremy Adam's current run.
Swamp Thing had a great New 52 run.
@@evanwingate7596 i would also say the other new 52 stuff that were great jeff lemire's green arrow, lemire's animal man, geoff johns aquaman, scott snyder's superman 9 issue mini, omega men by tom king, batman and robin by tomasi, some of the earth 2 volumes, new 52 supergirl vol 1, 2, 5, and 6, and my personal favorite run for dc grayson by tom king, tim seely, jackson lanzing/ collin kelly
Same! I also loved Gail Simone’s run and The Legend of Wonder Woman
7:18
This is a VERY good line. Aknowledging you aren't perfect, but still trying to be the best you anyway.
Loved this, exceptional work as always
I'm not worthy of your love senpai
Hey alex
@@ImplicitlyPretentious What the song name at credits and message.
Batman.
I'm not as big on DC (I was raised a Marvel guy, more or less incidentally), but always appreciated some of their characters. I've dived back into comics in recent years, but stuck with my bias for Marvel stuff. I say all this to preface: this video really makes me want to read the described Wonder Woman run. Thanks for another great analysis, too!
I left marvel when they did Spider-Man and X-men dirty over film rights.
New 52 was a great place to start with DC. Also the earth one stories.
This is sort of a controversial run, because of changes to the character. But I think it's great, and one of the better New 52 runs.
@@soysaucefool I can certainly understand the response (I've been doing deep dives on Marvel characters, and shifts between writers/runs or major retcons/changes can be really frustrating at times), but I have little attachment to pre-New 52 Diana outside of general knowledge from DCAU, and this does sound really fun/interesting.
@@Tuaron
While checking Wonder Woman 52 don't forget Aquaman 52
@@chosenfallen2024 I will keep that in mind. Thanks for the recommendation.
People don't make enough Wonder Woman content! Love this video!
Man I love Wonder Woman so much. She’s amazing. She’s my second favorite superhero (Superman is my first). I love her passion, her strength, her power, her softness, her strong femininity, her bravery, her intelligence. She’s is what you look for in a superhero.
I remember reading the New 52 Wonder Woman run. I read the first 6 volumes and I thoroughly enjoyed it, but thanks to you I now have a more clear understanding of what the story was offering.
You're video essays are amazing and well put, wish you more success.
Zues saying "I have affairs to attend to" is just... So rich lmao
I'm glad to see you doing comic-related stuff and not just animated DC videos. Comics Explained covers DC comics too, but he's definitely more of a Marvel fan, so there's still a bit of a niche to be filled for long-form DC content.
Check out ComicPop!
@@davidbreault3283 Comic Pop is less long-form and more just a podcast. Not really what I'm looking for, but I appreciate the recommendation :)
The art is so goated I love cliff chiang
One of the best runs of the last fifteen years
Damn...maybe I need to start reading Wonder Woman comics
1:34 so humble
"The best part of waking up, is acid in my cup!!!" - Plinkett (Baby's day out review)
She is my favorite version of Wonder Woman of all time
Ares asked Eris a question, she answered "No, War." He responded, "No war, what a great idea. Some may say a grand ideal." I forget which issue of this run that conversation happened, but I think about those panels a lot. If anyone recalls what War asked Eris or the issue this happened I'd appreciate a response.
WW's bondage origin is something I was not ready for. Freud who art in heaven, holy be thy name
Lepore's The Secret History of Wonder Woman is a great book if you're interested. The man and women behind those bondage stories were fascinating and complicated, and Lepore does great work both as a writer and as an investigative biographer.
I'm not going to lie: when I first saw you were tackling Nu52 Wonder Woman, I assumed you meant the character in the wider DC Universe. I forget sometimes about the unfiltered beacon of light and quality that was Azzarello and Chiang's WW run. Pretty much between this and Snyder and Capullo's initial Batman run, it was all that kept me reading DC after Flashpoint and the whole mess that was New 52...
I always liked new 52 supergirl. Red lantern super girl was cool.
Diana is a beautiful person inside and out. LET LOVE RULE!
Hades was a real light bringer.
The Greg Rucka Wonder Woman stuff is 🔥
I'm looking forward to hearing your take on it.
Wow, I really would love to see more of these essays onto different DC comics as a whole.
would just like to say the shift into the outro music was so so so good, incredible edit
This guy simply does not miss
I have Wonder Woman Comics, but no 52, I need to get 52.
I'm going to be honest but this wonder woman is the most physical attractive version.
I love to see people actually talking about Wonder woman comics,BTW another fantastic video.
Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, and Aquaman had the best runs in the New 52
i would also put jeff lemire's animal man/ green arrow and grayson there too.
Not wonder woman
This video reminds me why wonder woman is my favorite heroine
I’m glad you talk about Azarello’s run, I actually enjoyed it a lot and your input is always on point
Cliff Chiang art was so good.
Very nice, I've been more and more interested in Wonder Woman as a character lately. Her optimism and ability to love unconditionally is so inspiring and a great answer to a lot of cynical stories nowadays.
You should look at Wonder Woman: Dead Earth. It's the comic that got me interested in looking into more Wonder Woman stuff and is a really solid limited run. After watching this one, I'll definitely check out the N52 stuff as well.
Keep it up mate
Other than 100 Bullets, Azzarello's run on Wonder Woman is my favorite of the comics he's done.
genuinely love it when you do actual comics :)
Just started my deep dive into Wonder Woman! Amazing timing for me!
A truly amazing run. Really wanted to get a live action series of this. I know people would love the messy and epic nature of this story
Azzarello's Wonder Woman made the whole New 52 worth it.
i think there were other books that made new 52 also worth it, but this is definitely one of them.
It was this,Snyders Batman,and Johns Aquaman. Some of the best comics produced in decades.
@@miggypeso909 for me jeff lemire's green arrow, lemire's animal man, geoff johns aquaman, scott snyder's superman 9 issue mini and his batman/ swamp thing runs, omega men by tom king, batman and robin by tomasi, some of the earth 2 volumes, azzarello's wonder woman, new 52 supergirl vol 1, 2, 5, and 6, and my personal favorite run for dc grayson by tom king, tim seely, jackson lanzing/ collin kelly
I also really liked Demon Knights and Earth 2. Well, Earth 2 before editorial started to mess with it and turned it into basically Superman/Batman.
@@Carabas72 yeah earth 2 fell in quality for me when they did world's end. but it picks back up for me with earth 2 society.
Thank you!! I've been away from reading comics for awhile now cuz just got bored of the format but this WW run you showed just made me really jump into it. Please make more.
just wanted to come back here and say i loved the video and would love some more comic reviews /retrospectives, love the content either way and appreciate the work you put in
I Really like it when you analyze Comic Storylines , love from India 🇮🇳
the nu52 wonder woman was probably the best thing that they put out those first years. i loved animal man and swamp thing, and the flash was good, but wonder woman hadn't been that good since JMS did his run years before.
bro you should make more videos on comics like this
I read these comics, and loved them. Thanks for covering them!
still holding out Hope that one day, you’ll finish the agents of shield series
“The New 52 robbed me of my happily married Superman”
This. This was my biggest gripe with New 52. I hated that so much, felt like it was a disservice to the character. It would be years until I picked up another DC comic after that
I think that there's a point to be made that Wonder Woman told a beautiful story at the cost of dragging down the characters around her. As an Orion/New Gods fan the New 52 were dark times
I haven't read the the comic, but I dig her new armor look in this version.
Love the combination of silver, dark blue and dark red in her new armor
I initially dismissed Azzarello's work as to edgy for my tastes after reading Batman: Damned, even though I liked some of the ideas in that book... but hearing that that his runs skews towards a more accurate portrayal of the gods and Greek myth overall in DC has me intrigued as a classics major... (I'm studying Homeric epic this semester) I also love DC horror overall so I will certainly check this run out for sure.
I really appreciate that you made this video Alex, especially since this run has a bit of a divisive reputation in fandom spaces...
Have a great day folks!❤
The darkness only makes diana shine brighter
Love a video about a comic book run! Very cool change up and I hope to see more of this!
This was a really good video. Not too long not too short! Good job!
Goodness do I love Love, I also love your vids! Thank you
Your videos are always so insightful, inspiring and irritating to the tear-ducts.
Oooh do more new 52 please!
I want this run as the new wonder woman trilogy of movies. It would be so great to see in live action.
Haven’t even started this video and I’m down
I’m so tired of New 52 WW being downplayed
So... basically new 52 reimagined Olympians in similar unusual way god of War reimagined Nords?
I love this run as like the best WW else world story but I hate the myth that it took the Greek gods away from their previous sanitized versions back to their roots.
As if Heracules didn't enslave and rape the amazons in Perez's run, Zues wasn't a major antagonist in Simones run and Hara didn't launch themyscira to the American east coast in Rukas run.
I would like to see you talk about Superman: Last Son of Krypton.
If you're gonna be tackling comics now, please do Jason Aaron's run on Doctor Strange, a criminally underrated body of work that does so much for the character of Strange in a way that is very similar to what this run did for Diana and her world.
0:25 So basically God of war 3
Animal man was one of my favorite new 52 runs and recommended for a video or anyone who wants to. Also super sons was great by like a fucking miles
I love your analysis, dude
There hasn’t even been enough time for you to watch the whole thing
@@Lord-mittens I speak of his essays in general tho
@@geminiandromeda8082ah I see, I like them too
@@Lord-mittens yay
Awesome work man!
Great video, made me interested in the run
The moment that Zola throwed a tray at Hera's face and she bleeds from it satisfies me.
It is better than the way Kratos killed Hera.
Ya know, honestly, I was never a wonder woman fan until run, yet at the end of it, I learned some life lessons.
i watched this kinda not really knowing what to expect, but heck after this i have immediately placed a hold on the books in my local library
Beautiful
Hermes the god of amazon delivery, hilarious
and I really enjoy your videos. Amazing!
I know a lot of people believe that Batman was the best book out of the New 52, but I believe that this book was better overall. Yes, Batman had the best story arc in The Court of Owls, but after that original run, the comic took a bit of a nose dive in terms of quality. Stories like Zero Year and Death of the Family are great, but they don't compare to Court of Owls (Superheavy was just downright bad). Wonder Woman on the other hand was just consistently great from start to finish with Azzarelo's run.
I honestly, to this day, don't understand why DC retconned this amazing run into essentially being a fever dream post-New 52. I tried reading a few Wonder Woman runs after this but they just don't compare. This run is the best thing that happened to Wonder Woman IMO but I guess I am part of a minority that believed this.
very good essay very good video and the story seems very very good
specially for a ww
Easily the most underrated run in DC history. Hell comics period. The story,dialogue,and art where just incredible.
I don't think it's underrated as much as divisive, and that division is earned. It would be different if it weren't Wonder Woman (or if it had been published as an Elseworlds), but as mainstream official canon, there was very good reasons to hate it, both for its rewriting of Paradise Island and Diana's origin, and for the way it made Diana a lesser character in her book.
@@joelpartee594 well that was the point of the new 52, it was a "reboot" of the post-crisis continuity. so it makes sense that there will be changes to diana's backstory. and how did it make diana a lesser character in her book?
@@johnthai6188 Sorry, I worded that poorly - there are, as I see it, two very distinct issues. Azzarello and Chiang's Wonder Woman made Diana a lesser character in the book titled Wonder Woman simply by making it such a strong ensemble book in which Diana's choices, actions, and fate were often overshadowed by other characters. The issue with changing canon is not that they changed it all, but that they 1) specifically changed Themyscira from a utopian paradise to a conspiracy to literally kill adult men and sell male infants into slavery and 2) made Diana the secret daughter of Zeus, and the idea of her mother fashioning her out of clay as a lie rather than an achievement. These change the entire premise from a celebration of pro-feminine independence into a caricature of violent anti-masculinity situated firmly in an order in which the prime power remains masculine. That's exactly the sort of changes that would be much easier to appreciate as an Elseworld than as the announced new status quo.
@@joelpartee594 as i've stated the NEW 52 was a change for status quo because it was a REBOOT. i feel like the characterization of diana, herself in how she acts, is very in character to how she is in this run. she is also independent: she's the one that holds the group together, she disapproved of the amazons way of life, was the one to reconnect with her Amazonian brothers, was the the key to the final battle etc. she is independent in saying there is a better way, than what history has shown us. the changes to the backstory to wonder woman doesn't inherently destroy the character, because the characterization is still feels heroic, and caring. like i would have expected wonder woman to kill hera for what she did to the amazons, but she doesn't. most of the geek mythology stuff in the run, feels more in line to how Greek mythology is: at least tonally. just because the main character's backstory is changed, it's more important to how these characters are characterized. sure the backstory to wonder woman was changed to be more "dark" in this run, but does that mean wonder woman herself has changed to become less heroic because of it: no. because it's about the heroic actions these characters take, rather than the backstory to these characters. through-out the run we see wonder woman as heroic, kind, caring and loving towards others: even if they shouldn't.
@@johnthai6188 Absolutely agreed on multiple points - A & C's Diana is a sympathetic and heroic character that I also cared about and rooted for, and she had some great moments in the run. I also agree that a reboot is wasted if everything about the character's backstory remains the same. A & C's imagining of the Greek pantheon is wonderfully imaginative and engaging, and feels both mythic and fresh. It may be my favourite versions of both Hera and Ares from any source all the way back to Homer. It's a very solid series that I hold in high regard, but that's not the same thing as saying I think it should be taken as canon going forward, and I approve the complaints that were mostly saying "this should not be the canon going forward". That's something that could have been avoided by publishing this differently - call it Elseworlds: Azzarello and Chiang's Old Gods featuring Wonder Woman, keep everything else exactly the same, and I'd have no notes.
Great video as always! I was just wondering, are you ever going to pick back up the "Spider-man in ____" because that was genuinely some of my favorite content on youtube period.
You should 100% do more essays on comics :)
Ooh I might need to read this, I enjoyed 52 Swamp Thing maybe this will be a good place to start ww
1:35 Lmao! Almost didn't catch that.
yay a diana video :D
I love you all too! Thank you for this community^^ ♥
I 💓 Wonder Woman (Diana Prince)
yesss do more comic book videos!
Brb that summary sounds awesome so ima go read it and come back, so you in a couple months probably or something I dunno
Great vid bro. I'd love you to do New 52 Superman & New52 Justice League too please!
I had no attachment to Diana's previous lore so I thought this run was great. I really liked Azz's take on the Gods and Diana, but I *loved* Chiang's art and his redesigns of the Pantheon. It's too bad this run will likely be forgotten as many Nu52 changes have been (and while I love Orion, I thought his portrayal here was a bit lacking - and his was the one redesign I didn't like)
Love can ignite the stars.
You know, I get the impression from this video that it almost seems like you might believe Wonder Woman's depictions have never deconstructed Amazonian Society and their ideals before the New 52.
That's not really true, if so. They Amazonians have persistently been shown to be a idyllic but incredibly flawed civilization that commits horrible atrocities unseen by the outside world... usually against men. In a very real way, they often come to serve as a counterpoint for a sort dualistic view of sexism, especially post-70s Wonder Woman, by representing the other extreme. Diana is often this sort of model for female excellence, independence, and power, but at the same time, the civilization she touts also has historically driven washed-up, shipwrecked sailors back into the ocean to drown, or killed them if they failed to do so, simply because they're male... to give just one example.
Like a lot of idyllic societies in fiction, Themyscira and the Amazons are commonly represented as having a beautiful outside appearance but having deeply hypocritical or at least counter-productive ideals and beliefs.
Lovely video.
I recently found myself agreeing with the somewhat embarrassing conclusion that love is ultimately the only thing that can save humanity from itself. Not fear, not ambition, or competition. Certainly not anger. Love is behind all positive change. It’s not an easy message to foster in the best of times or in the most enlightened places, so it falls on deaf ears, for the most part. Very often, it’s the love parents have for their children. But it’s also love of friends, love of pets, love of strangers, love of just existing. Trying to force back the darkness that threatens all the people and things we love is how good things get done. Wonder Woman is, as far as I know, the only popular superhero, and one of a tiny handful of fictional figures altogether, who understands this truth, and is willing against all odds to try to get this message across. I lament depictions of her that neglect, or even contradict, this essential element of her character.
Very great video
Love the content, but on a totally unrelated note,
**IS ANYONE ELSE HYPE FOR DIABLO 4?!**
#BarbarianGang
I don't like the idea of her being only 23 because all of her positive notions could be just chalked up to the naivete of youth...
True wisdom only comes with experience and if she lived a few more hundred years she may have a change of heart
As popular are Scott Snyder's Batman and Geoff Johns' Green Lantern, I just love the New 52 WW run. It's just really fucking good.
Good video
In short, New 52 Wonder Woman was awesome.
1:45 I can't be the only one thinking that may kinda sorta look like the cliff Kratos throws himself off of in the original God of War, right? ... right?!
I wonder why everyone calls Zeus out for sleeping around while ignoring the fact that Hera kills and torments his offspring. I mean, yes, infidelity is bad, but so is magically driving a guy into a temporary insanity to murder his wife and kids.
Just think about it. Hera is a goddess of marriage and home hearth, but she made Heracles kill his wife and children. It's not just way worse than sleeping around, it violates her divine portfolio.
Besides, given Hera's bevahiour, I wonder if she's a good one to be married to. Maybe Zeus sought respite with mortal women because he had none at home. Just saying.
Because serial killer Hera isn't a part of most modern versions of those stories while philandering Zeus very much is.
@@Carabas72 but that is my point, exactly. In our modern depictions of Greek myths, we choose to focus on Zeus' infidelity while ignoring Hera's cruelty and murder sprees.
This might me an unconscious choice.
Aye a New 52 defence glad to see one
@1:08 The perfect quote from Azzarello about this run. Translation: "I don't care about Wonder Woman; I just want to do a cool interpretation of the Greek Pantheon." (I was reading through the original Marston run of Wonder Woman when Azzarello's run came out, and it was painful to see how Marston's self-assured, beloved heroine had become a loathed hapless second-guessing gullible mess. But yeah, cool interpretations of the Pantheon, dude.)
@2:22 Another great Azzarello quote! Damned right it's not a superhero book. Diana isn't a superhero at all in this. She's mostly a loser throughout, who then grows to be Last Girl in a horror story by default that she's the title character, really in name only.
Yep… he did not care about Wonder Woman, but he was ready and willing to use her book to tell a gritty story about the dark nature of the gods. The accuracy of this interpretation of the gods is interesting, but it is not sustaining to the rest of the DCU which Wonder Woman holds real estate. The Amazons pledge to keep a male baby alive but turn around & slaughter their newly found living male offspring. Yep, lil girls will want to emulate those characters. Parents can’t wait for that movie.
Then he should write his own fantasy comic, not Wonder Woman. He should not be given the title at all.
@@icyhugsidk, if you had read the run, it's really good.
Hapless? Gullible? Where’d you get that from?