The Messed Up Truth About The 1950s Film Industry

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  • @GrungeHQ
    @GrungeHQ  ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Which of these facts about the 1950s film industry surprised you the most?

  • @jenniferbreaux7385
    @jenniferbreaux7385 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The 50s really did suck unless you were a straight, white, conservative, Christian man.

    • @mikezion
      @mikezion ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Society has been a curse for most of its existence!

    • @zoeyzed5127
      @zoeyzed5127 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No the 50s did not suck I lived it I was born in the 40s, I loved my childhood it was as ideal as shown in old movies.

  • @pamelamays4186
    @pamelamays4186 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    According to Hollywood legend, Lena Horne was told she was her skin was "too light" when she auditioned for Show Boat. She went to makeup artist to the stars Max Factor and asked him to create a special makeup that would make her skin appear to be darker. The shade he created for her was "Light Egyptian".Lena returned to the studio with her new look. Still no luck in being cast.

  • @andrewbarker2422
    @andrewbarker2422 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    True story.....Rock Hudson was before my time and my dad grew up watching my grandma swoon every time she saw him on TV or at the movies. "That's a fine looking hunky man" she would say. Unfortunately she was heartbroken when he died of AIDS.....and dad said Grandpa got the last laugh

    • @drpoundsign
      @drpoundsign ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You know...Ironically, Rock probably did NOT get AIDS the usual way (although he was unquestionably Gay.) He was a chainsmoker-of cigarettes, lol, and got Coronary Bypass surgery in West Hollywood. He got a blood transfusion in the hospital (and West Hollywood is a Gay Ghetto) and became symptomatic three years later, in 1985.
      Older victims progress MUCH faster than younger ones-the latter can remain healthy for ten years or more.
      Hudson, Roy Cohn and Liberace were All relatively Elderly, and were the Early VIP casualties of the AIDS pandemic. Steve Stucker (who played the Gay Air Traffic Controller in "Airplane") also passed away in '85.
      Terry Dolan, the head of NCPAC, the political arm of the "Moral Majority", who were instrumental in electing Reagan, also Died of AIDS in the Eighties. That is almost Poetic Justice!
      As for "mere mortals" a NYC schoolteacher who partied on Fire Island in the Summer had weird infections and Kaposi lesions...in 1979(!) He Died around Christmas, 1980 at age 39. That was a full Six Months before the first case clusters were reported on both Coasts.

    • @drpoundsign
      @drpoundsign ปีที่แล้ว

      NO question that promiscuity in the Homosexual community (along with needle-sharing among addicts) accelerated the AIDS Epidemic. What Really sparked it, however, was a paid plasma donation center in Port au Prince, open in 1971-72. The cheap, corrupt bastards rarely changed the needles or tubing, and about 700 people/day donated, for about three American dollars. A few Haitians were already infected from working in Africa, where similar careless procedures were also in place. What's Worse: thousands of units of that plasma went into the arms of Americans (Hemophiliacs and others.) A Lot of it was shipped to New York City, where, of course, many people had other risk factors for AIDS.
      By 1981; the first case clusters appeared.
      You see: asymptomatic spread probably does not happen all that much. Patients are most contagious in the month after acquiring the virus, and ten years later, when they begin getting sick, but are not too sick to have sex. IV drug addicts, in contrast, would have wanted more and more Heroin, to control the symptoms (Diarrhea, cough, chronic pain) which comes with Terminal AIDS. It is quite effective at doing so. And, sharing needles is Extremely contagious. Junkies, in particular-"Boot" blood. That is, they pull the plunger up, to mix blood with the water/heroin solution, push it back into their veins, and the pass it to the next person.
      Hepatitis B was endemic in both Gay Men and IV drug addicts, Decades before AIDS or Hepatitis C. That actually was somewhat protective, in that Hepatitis-infected blood was screened (starting in 1972) and discarded. When the Hep B vaccine became available, in 1978, however, those who did not already have the disease were protected, and must have donated a Lot of plasma (marginal people are the biggest source of such donations) until they were Finally screened out again by the HIV test-in early 1985.
      Saved blood from the vaccine trial revealed that only about 6% was infected in 1978...vs. SIXTY percent in 1983(!) Six percent is not Trivial, but just think about All those years of the Bathhouse and Leather Bar culture, Orgies and shooting dope, yet an order of magnitude increase happened in just five years.
      The Haitian government and R. Pape deny that the Plasma Center sparked the pandemic in Haiti and America, citing that "NO HIV" was found in any stored blood there. But, personally, I think that many of those people must have perished from Diarrhea or Tuberculosis (which is endemic in such nations) or Meningitis that was not recognized as Fungal Meningitis (which occurs in only the severely immunocompromised.) Cervical Cancer and Viral Hepatitis also progress much more quickly in AIDS patients. If they dug up some graves, and extracted dental pulp DNA, I think they'd find out the Truth. That technique proved that Bubonic Plague caused The Black Death. Some Scientists blamed other organisms.
      PS: The head of the US Red Cross stonewalled in 1981-82 that "Only sex causes AIDS," and "no blood recipients ever had AIDS." NO-they didn't have the full-blown disease yet, but Many were already infected!
      Remember Randy White??

  • @dirtybird311
    @dirtybird311 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    12 Angry Men is a great movie!

    • @leesashriber5097
      @leesashriber5097 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      One of my favorites ❣️

    • @drpoundsign
      @drpoundsign ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@leesashriber5097 ...and, the BEST part Was: Jack Klugman swayed the other jurors with forensic evidence-and, later went on to play "Quincy!"
      Lee J. Cobb played a Baddie...worst than in "On the Waterfront." "Let's convict the Bum, and let him Fry, just so we can go to the ballgame/prizefight tonight."

    • @leesashriber5097
      @leesashriber5097 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@drpoundsign , I actually watch Quincy everyday on COZI. Watched it growing up along with Starsky and Hutch. 😀

  • @salvatore2004
    @salvatore2004 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    RIP James Dean

    • @janbadinski7126
      @janbadinski7126 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I imagine what could have been when it comes to the film making if he had lived.

  • @IslandVibez_Virgo
    @IslandVibez_Virgo ปีที่แล้ว +12

    It was really rough back then for so many ppl 😢💔 idk why anyone would ever want to work in Hollywood back then smh

    • @christineparis5607
      @christineparis5607 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Money, honey....

    • @ak9989
      @ak9989 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Vavavoom😍

    • @AdultThirdCultureKid1971
      @AdultThirdCultureKid1971 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I can only imagine. In the 1970s, 80s, and 90s, if you were an actor or actress of MIddle Eastern/Arab heritage, the first role they would cast you in a film was as a terrorist, religious fanatic, etc., even if the role you auditioned for was a protagonist.

    • @IslandVibez_Virgo
      @IslandVibez_Virgo ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AdultThirdCultureKid1971 So disappointing smh

    • @kay-marie1076
      @kay-marie1076 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hollywood today is just as bad if not worse.

  • @magister61
    @magister61 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You are right but the movies of the 50's were those ones that showed and reflected a good world with good values.

  • @dredgerivers7730
    @dredgerivers7730 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think Hollywood moguls also own the kennels in Florida where all the boy bands are raised.

  • @lolacampbell8451
    @lolacampbell8451 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Old Hollywood was also dumb they hired people to play "ethnic"as you just said..but had people under contract they didn't realize we're the ethnicities they were told to play...my late cousin was Hollywood actress Linda Darnell..she was my grandpa's second cousin I grew up with his stories about her..but the studios hired her to play native American when she actually was..and in my darling clementine she was tasked to play a Hispanic and some of our family did come from Spain and for mask of zorro she was tasked to play a Gypsy we actually have some Roma and we have some north african as well and the Darnell name is french and some of our ancestors did live either where or near where the vision in the field happened but I'm most proud of my cousin for not " sleeping her way to the top" so to speak not wanting to couch hop or play nice so to speak and that's mostly part of why her career dwindled and trust me that couch was pretty crusty by the time Harvey warthog inherited it Charlie Chaplin started it and it was pretty gross even in the 50s
    and it broke in the 2010s as we know that couch but I'm proud my cousin refused to be a notch in some Hollywood executives belt just sad how she passed away though I used to wonder what it would have been like if she had lived to see a old age and talk to her as a kid but I had to hear about her from my grandpa and he loved her till the day he died people forget actors aren't better than anyone and they have lives too and at the end of the day they're just regular people that God loves the same as you and I and at the end of the day they're somebody's loved ones too.
    Granted you have some actors that are completely lousy and crappy individuals and narcissistic and such and it's most unfortunate but there are some that are gems in a pile of pyrite out there and my grandpa said our cousin was one even old actors in biography on her said so very sweet kind person and egalitarian and I guess the executives couldn't handle that an honest person in Hollyweird.
    Please excuse my lack of punctuation my eyesight stinks
    But your right Hollywood is a cesspool when my other cousin and I were younger we were told to try modeling and acting and our family said hell no we want them to have lives that crap industry took one woman from our family they're not getting any more and grandpa always told us never go out there with out a good education and a plan b and a exit plan it's not for everyone and he'd always use his cousins story as a cautionary tale incase we did give it a go we never did or want to please note my family isn't against cinema or movies just some of the craziness and crap a person goes through just to make it or try to out there my cousin is now a drug and alcohol counselor and I'm a visual artist both middle aged bats but it's nice when I see forums that talk about her and her talent and that she's still appreciated but I saw this and completely understood where you were going with this grunge because of my family's own personal dealing with this kinda crap and one of our family members anyway take care and God bless

    • @drpoundsign
      @drpoundsign ปีที่แล้ว

      But...NONE of the actors in "The Good Earth" were Chinese.

  • @KlaxxJaxx1984
    @KlaxxJaxx1984 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Yeah there always something big happening in little Hollywood

  • @RWHaulbrook
    @RWHaulbrook ปีที่แล้ว +45

    the film industry is far more "messed up" now

    • @mrmojomajestic8317
      @mrmojomajestic8317 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's still corrupt as hell, but it's definitely comparably better.

    • @LalinDissanayaka
      @LalinDissanayaka ปีที่แล้ว +4

      How so?

    • @TheCursedMessiah
      @TheCursedMessiah ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@LalinDissanayaka if you need to ask how then it shows how you're part of the problem lmfao

    • @mikezion
      @mikezion ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It’s hard to tell which era is worst honestly! People will always have unflattering challenges long as the human race is diverse with many differences!

    • @deadandburied7626
      @deadandburied7626 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Now you have to have obligatory ethnics, LGBTetc characters written-in, even if they don't fit into a setting.

  • @MsShep55
    @MsShep55 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    They forgot to mention that Sinatra stood by Sammy Davis - they need to tell the whole story or don’t tell it at all.

    • @blackbroadwayandbeyond
      @blackbroadwayandbeyond ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@maggiemoonpie2168 I thought Marilyn Monroe did this for Ella Fitzgerald, not Etta James.

  • @josephwest124
    @josephwest124 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The odd thing that was overlooked in the Natalie Wood bit was that her marriage to Robert Wagner was only marginally better: She was 19 when the couple married; he was 27 (two months' shy, in fact, of his 28th birthday).

    • @drpoundsign
      @drpoundsign ปีที่แล้ว

      In 1981, things weren't going well for me, and I wanted to be in Heaven with Natalie. )-; I still DO. I was home with strep throat, back in '74, and saw her in "This Property is Condemned" with Redford. Not a Great film, but, with the first stirrings of Manhood within me, I thought to myself: "What an Incredible FOX!"

  • @AdultThirdCultureKid1971
    @AdultThirdCultureKid1971 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Twelve Angry Men was one of the plays I read when I was in tenth grade and I watched the movie version of it.

  • @jelly._.cube86
    @jelly._.cube86 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hmm... That's precisely why the Netflix series Hollywood had a bitter sweet taste to me. More bitter than the latter. I understand it's a fictionised alternate reality of what a budding progressive Hollywood glam era would be but knowing even vaguely how it was absolutely the contrary made me sad.

  • @avengerscap
    @avengerscap ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What? You mean movies had the same values as their audiences at the time? Scandalous! Remember: Art mimics life.

  • @camerondebaets5013
    @camerondebaets5013 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Censors and all control crazy individuals need to have a toke, and let the good in life make art and tell their truths.

  • @MSDGAMEZ
    @MSDGAMEZ ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Brando was hilarious

  • @dougfrench8231
    @dougfrench8231 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    There's a black list today !

    • @jacksonreilly3441
      @jacksonreilly3441 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes and it is comprised of conservatives and Christians!

  • @Octavia680
    @Octavia680 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The fact that yt men had to threaten Sammy Davis Jr’s life in order for him to be grudgingly marry a blk woman is extremely telling. But, I’m not the least bit surprised

  • @MrEd9574
    @MrEd9574 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    if you think this stuff is completely gone nowadays, your delusional. especially the casting couch for both sexes..

    • @drpoundsign
      @drpoundsign ปีที่แล้ว

      You KNOW: I used to think it Ironic that XXX Legend Marilyn Chambers said she preferred "The Other Hollywood" because of The Casting Couch in traditional cinema.

  • @angelaholmes8888
    @angelaholmes8888 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I really feel bad for rock Hudson it must had been hard for him to hide his sexuality

    • @christineparis5607
      @christineparis5607 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I do too, in a way, but he came from England and went along with every stupid dodge that anyone ever came up with. He had a long time love who lived with him for years that he unceremoniously dumped to marry a woman, which really botheres me, because it was being disloyal and cruel just for money and fame. I personally, feel that is against a code of conduct for relationships, no matter who they're with. Just my opinion, but other people were held back for decades because they mostly all went along with that cruelty instead of having the courage to band together and stop the insanity. I cant understand, at all, someone wanting to know what gay people do together when they don't have any problems knowing that producers, directors, publicists etc., are rapists and groomers. Everyone is so "shocked" by the actions of Epstein, but everyone in power knew exactly who and what he was and just ignored the very, very young girls living on his island!!! How could anyone have not been horrified by a 15 year old (or a 12 year old!!) being "given" to a guest for "entertainment"!!??

  • @zoeyzed5127
    @zoeyzed5127 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Black list today against Republicans and Christians in Holly wood, the wood used to make witches wands, thats why they chose that name.

  • @matthewblackwood4704
    @matthewblackwood4704 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I wish they still did this way in Hollywood, except for not giving good roles to blacks.

  • @CrustyUgg
    @CrustyUgg ปีที่แล้ว +2

    And now we have ppl ruining shows like scooby doo. It's a classic. TLM too.

  • @williambirmingham1074
    @williambirmingham1074 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the US still follows this mindset! We are still a very young country!

  • @Elfan4
    @Elfan4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It might have been a bit messed up, but they made films that were way better than now

  • @sandraweilbrenner67
    @sandraweilbrenner67 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    They had a code for lesbians in Hollywood back then , it was called the sewing circle.

  • @angelaholmes8888
    @angelaholmes8888 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's disgusting what harry cone did to sami Davis jr and kim Novak

    • @markelijio6012
      @markelijio6012 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kim Novak is the only survivor in Hollywood. Although she's no longer working as an actress, Kim Novak
      has finally found some success of her own: doing ranching, painting and other activities during her home in Oregon from the
      fall of 1992 thru present. But I can't my speak for her nor her family but her manager does the talking and making
      these decisions, that's all.
      A year later in the fall of 1993, Sony Pictures Studios Sound Department has named the Kim Novak Stage.
      It was named after her and made one of the studio's sound stages of our time.

  • @alg11297
    @alg11297 ปีที่แล้ว

    On The Waterfront was based on a story by Kazan's friend, Arthur Miller, who was a known Communist but never admitted it. How it has anything to do with HUAC is a big stretch as in the film the main character was ratting out gangsters and murderers. Also many actors had to change their names to sound more WASPy. In films most ethnicities were either exaggerated or ignored. There was a stock Swedish character who was always a bafoon, gangsters were either Italian or Irish, and no one seemed to be proud of who they were. Also, as most of the studios were run by or owned by Jews, the Code was clearly directed at them. Very few depictions of Jews as main characters were done until well into the 60s.

  • @MarioLamRedRebel
    @MarioLamRedRebel ปีที่แล้ว

    Even now a day can Hollywood make you or break you...... This kind of power is not good.

  • @williampollard8347
    @williampollard8347 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hollyweird has not changed their stance much. N 1990 I was hired 2 b the actor Michael Madsen's Stand-In. After working 100 hundred hours n one week I was paid the SUM of 100 hundred dollars. The film's title, ALMOST BLUE. how very appropriate. Hollyweird has not changed at all. Just more hoops to hurdle 2 b part of "the team". What drivilling B.S.

  • @ak9989
    @ak9989 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bright Victory, a 1952 movie about two blind soldiers, one black, deals with racism and how one soldier overcomes it after learning about blind soldier is black. Worth watching

  • @CrustyUgg
    @CrustyUgg ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Now Hollywood is so woke and inclusive even when it doesn't make sense..

  • @michaelpiwcewicz1412
    @michaelpiwcewicz1412 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    BEING GAY IS THERE BUSINESS AND NO ONE ELSES///

  • @andrewbarker2422
    @andrewbarker2422 ปีที่แล้ว

    Old Hollywood was even worse towards their African American actors.....one of them whose name i forgot was listed as G. Howe Black in the credits

  • @e.t.2230
    @e.t.2230 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You should see the 2020’s lol

  • @yourmomma2995
    @yourmomma2995 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hollyweird went ass backwards. stuff was much better back then.

  • @djquinn11
    @djquinn11 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Still better than the rubbish that woke Hollywood is putting out now.

    • @prathamsaxena9503
      @prathamsaxena9503 ปีที่แล้ว

      Still better than believing those who believe Virgins can give birth to babies

  • @Nick-ty9us
    @Nick-ty9us ปีที่แล้ว

    So Billy Wilder lost family to Auschwitz concentration camp the guy made one of the funniest comedies of all time

  • @Nick-ty9us
    @Nick-ty9us ปีที่แล้ว

    Why was it taboo in the 1950s to be gay?

  • @mx8350
    @mx8350 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We realized what MX K I L F and other great leaders were talking about. Use people of color in sterotype roles and in the same token used them to boost their movie production and the SR in movies arrived. People of color had doctors lawyers teachers and others professionals why just maids and butlers in movies?How come people of color didn't have heroes in the movies.40% of the cowboys were of color not in movies lol It was so bad W crooks and criminals were honored in movies even while many many inventions were made by people of color at the same time can't blame it on the people who had television because people of color had tv 's throughout it all people of color still rise where other races would not have after 400 years and counting of oppression but we understand if me and my ancestors committed devilish acts on families for centuries I guess I would worry too unless the truth is revealed something many do not want to do so they will continue running and try to change history consequently the future

  • @Nick-ty9us
    @Nick-ty9us ปีที่แล้ว

    OK Marlon Brando was racist for doing that. I will never look at the Godfather have the same way again

  • @abellewis3062
    @abellewis3062 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish homosexuality was taboo in 2023. Enough said.

  • @Mark-hc8ek
    @Mark-hc8ek 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Of course, the Left sees no resemblance to this snd Woke. None. LOL😂

  • @catchloe1989
    @catchloe1989 ปีที่แล้ว

    All male.

  • @Skaarxiong1
    @Skaarxiong1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    watching the black and white dots on my old tv screen is better than anything Hollywoke has done in the last 20 years.