I'm really pleased to see this, Sam. I've been in and out of this hobby for nearly 40 years and frankly seeing the prices go up from "just about affordable toys" when I was a kid to the ludicrous "exclusive pricing" we see these days, I truly believe it is time that modellers and hobbyists take back control from of this and share resources alike.
That was brilliant, Sam. I've been making models for over 50 years, now, and I find the prospect of what you are doing, utterly terrifying. I really hope it works (of course it will), and I want to see the finished model chugging round your layout. I'm well impressed with your offer to make the plans free for anyone who wants one, too. I always had you down as a really nice bloke - now I'm 100% certain. Nice one.
Thank you so much Brian - it does look terrifying when all crammed into 30 mins... but in reality it was a very slow process of gradual development... and of course I didn't start with locos... I started with very simple wagons which were much easier! Making this free is the least I can do - it might give people the bug for this kind of thing :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Thank you so much Sam! I don't have room for a 3D printer, but I'm sure many others will appreciate being to make an LBSC B1 in OO! Keep up the fabulous work!
No problem Luke! You could probably still send off for the parts to be printed, though probably best to have your own machine! You can get one for the price of one or two OO locos... just saying ;) Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Thank you for going all Wintergatan on us by placing the fruits of your labour in the public domain! I have a filament and a resin printer, so I will definitely try to make this Class B1 loco. I have already been printing spare parts and motor mounts for my OO locos! I might also be able to print some early Finnish locomotives, many of which were manufactured in England in the mid 1800's. We also had 9 Baldwin made 4-4-0 American locomotives, lo and behold!
No problem at all - I'm really excited to see what people do with it! Do let me know how this goes with resin - I'd be interested to see that! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I like your pragmatism in creating the design. Achieving high levels of detail with a 0.4mm nozzle is very challenging and smaller nozzles just introduce more problems (clogs more likely and huge print times). Accepting that compromises have to be made is the right way even if it does upset some people. Well done.
Some years ago I made a non-scale 3D image of a typical 0-4-0 UK loco using POV-RAY. It had few details. The modeling was done with a text description of all parts using Constructive Solid Geometry principles. It was animated so one could see the drive rods move and wheels turn. A very fun project. This was way before 3D printing was invented. CG steam and smoke had not been figured out at that time. Now I'm learning some 3D CAD to 3D print some replacement parts for a Bachmann Large Scale Shay. I fully understand the challenges and joy you are experiencing in this project. Well done. Thank you for sharing it with the world.
Wow that sounds great Paul - things like that are always great fun to make! Good luck with your replacement parts - incredibly satisfying when you can fix locos yourself like that :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Your enthusiasm is so infectious and it's a joy to watch your talent at work. Your so right about the future of 3D printing in our great hobby, it is the future whether you do it yourself, buy a commercial product or commission someone to print your designs. I really enjoyed this introduction and look forward to the next installment. Well done you.
Great video once again! I was thinking….. you could create a 3d printed object that fits into the tender of the 9f that many suffer from mazak rot and disintegrate. You could make it so that it clips into place (like the old ringfield enclosure) whilst allowing it to hold the electrical pickups and the wheel axels. This would help a lot of people such as myself whom have a dead 9f due to the tender ringfield enclosure turning to dust 😁
Hornby are going to do one of two things here. Either 1. They will offer you a job. 2. They will suddenly 'do a hornby' and rush release their OWN model Hahaha. May I suggest you could use lightly sprung top of wheel tread pickups onto the trailing wheels. This will give extra pick up and help to hold wheels onto the track.
Looks absolutely amazing Sam. I love the ethic behind this project, not to mention the amazing work that's gone into making it a reality. The only knowledge I can provide could be that I know companies such as markits produce ready to use brass detail parts such as buffers, whistles, handrail knobs, coupling hooks, etc. Perhaps you can use those on a printed model to elevate the finesse of parts that can't be printed?
I would love to see the finished loco in charge of a rake of Hatton's six-wheelers in the LBSCR mahogany livery. What a bowman's salute to certain people in Maidstone.
wow, this is great sam im also starting my 3d project from shapeways. the loco im painting/making is a furness railway k2 class. have a great evening sam.
Blimey, what to say. You really went to town on this one. We’ve been imagining anyone can indeed make and fit details such as pipes, handrails and bars to their own desire, perhaps not even 3D printed as you suggested. For H0, we’ve been picturing that scaling down to 1:87 could even be an option as well, but then how to acquire scaled wheels. Perhaps print the spokes part as you did and find correct diameter wheels for the rim parts. That would be a challenge since such wheels were of typical British design we were thinking. However, come to think of it, early Swiss and German electric locos had such wheels with driving rods as well, so spare parts could be found from German model manufacturers perhaps. For the entire design, some spaces for adding some serious weights will be needed I suppose. Don’t wait too long for Part 2 Sam! This is extraordinary!
Thanks Linda - obviously doing things this way won't be as refined as from the likes of Bachmann/Hornby... but this will cost £25 rather than £250 to make! Yeah I've always been able to find some sort of solution for wheels - and being able to print the centres is really a godsend! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Congratulations on the excellent Railway Modeller magazine article (August 2023) about this project Sam - it was a really well-written article and hopefully will show a whole new audience what is possible.
You're being too hard on yourself, Sam. I think that what you've done is awesome. This is a replica, not a duplicate. Thicknesses and distances cannot be perfectly scaled because you're building it in plastic and in tiny scale. It doesn't make any difference what those parts actually do. If you can see them then replicate them -- that's one of the joys of working in such a small scale. I would ask you to reconsider one thing; the bumpers. They're really just a tube holding a little coill spring and the bumper shaft. The problem is the bumper shaft and its retainer. It is also something you can do very late in the build giving time to think about it. It would certainly underscore your complaints about non-working units on expensive commercial models. Looking forward much to your progress. Cheers!
This looks fantastic, been thinking of designing something (more modern day) myself but getting dimensions and drawings is incredibly difficult! Really looking forward to the rest of these videos! Great work
Lots of excellent loco books on the market that contain excellent drawings out there as well as many drawings. Go on line and search out what you would like, as most will be second hand.
There are great books out there with drawings of the locomotives and rolling stock some of which have measurements. Also if you really want to do some really accurate research the Railway Museum (or National Railway Museum as it was known) will allow people to go through their archives to look at drawings and even old photographs of the locomotives and rolling stock, I think you do have to talk to them before you head there.
Pretty good looking model! Little tip, if you wanted to do wire handrails you could find handrail stanchions on Wizard Models, and for wire you could use guitar strings, they are pretty stiff and can be cut to length
Finally someone who likes scratchbuilding like me, i can’t tell you how frustrating it’s been to find someone who builds thaire own locos and rolling stock, thanks sam, everything i’ve found online has been either told it’s too hard or was a kit or nonexistant basically
Hey, now you’re making a model, Hornby are bound to swoop in and release their own one to force you off the market! Either way, you’ll get a B1, right?
This looks pretty awesome so far! hopefully you can get to the NRM to get better measurements of the real B1. I also suggest trying to make an LBSC Stroudley G class 2-2-2 and a Stroudley C/C1 class 0-6-0 from this same tooling
Really excellent stuff, I guess a mixed media solution with some bass parts might help refine some of the chunkier features, but then I think this exercise is all about finding the limits of 3d printing.
Thanks very much Chris - yeah maybe you're right! For me personally (as someone with no talent at handmaking things) 3D printing the parts just looks better every time! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Interesting Chris. I like your idea of producing a 3D model with added finer details made from brass ( cab side sheets and roof as an idea) . The kit manufacturers went down this road in the 1970's. Chris Meecham produces some resin moulded locos along this idea.
Well Sam, you took on a real challenge and I admire your patience, inventive engineering, skills and will power, determent to bring this fine project to Ready To Run. No doubt you will succeed and I wish you good luck . I take my hat of for you Sam ! Very well done ! Until next episode. Cheers,
Fabulous Design Sam! Been working 3D myself for my own Model RR Collection. As I model with older trains, before 1960, it is difficult to come by replacement parts. The 3D printed parts take a while to design; a print or two to work out the strings; um, bugs, and off I go... Keep up the great videos!
Excellent work, looking forward to part 2. For anyone wishing to follow in your footsteps a good source is "Loco Profile 32, the Brighton Gladstones ". Published 1973, including 7mm scale side elevation as the colour centre spread, also a simplified elevation drawing in 4mm scale. Looking forward to seeing part 2 !
Ah yes the Sam's studio - designing the loco future, because he cares. for 3rd ever complete design i would not be as harsh on the connection between tender and locomotive, it will take some experimentation to get things right i reckon Sam cares so much he will eventually either just go deep into designing the part or keep tinkering with it across few locomotives.
This is brilliant. Fathers and sons have always enjoyed building layouts, and now they will have an option to go even deeper into the process. A manufacture not making a loco that has significance in your family? No problem.
Sam I'm also a 3D model for many years, I really enjoyed SketchUp but I'm, Blender forever, I'm currently working on a strange SDJR loco. It's a good fun process 🙂
3D print a back plate that can be glued on at assembly. I would also consider a brass fly wheel, a mate with a lathe could knock one out in minutes. Ditto for the gearbox housing which would be easy in either brass or steel adding weight, for this you need a mini mill, their are plenty of folks out there with these. A nice project worth while spending a little time on adding weight to your project. You also (if you haven't) watch u tube for the material used to print the gears. Although I'm no longer active in model railways I might just buy a 3d printer soon and a small 2nd hand lathe as you've given me a few ideals.. Well done on your development I think you have made fantastic progress.
Sam, what a brilliant idea. You might upset the main manufacturers who could see you attacking their domain. But he'll, if your model is good, you might start a trend. Good luck.
We definitely need more pre-Grouping locomotives from before 1900 as the market is just dominated by 1900-onwards with a few Victorian-era designs. Look forward to seeing that B1 and if you want an extra challenge, how about a LNWR Bloomer class in original condition, that would be prefect for with any 4-wheel coaches.
Oh my god :D I have literally dreamed of having a model of Gladstone ever since I saw it at the Nrm as a child. I even built a massive one in Minecraft. Thank you so much Sam 😭😭😄😄😄😄
haha me too!! It's been on my model railway bucket list forever.... ooh a Minecraft one sounds amazing - you'll have to email me some pics of that?! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Well done that man! Let's hope that you start a landslide amongst modellers where we get the models we want rather than those the main companies say we can have (and expect us to pay through the nose for)!
@@SamsTrains You are welcome. I have some 30 loco's + suitable rolling stock for a layout that was never built, all brand new apart from running in and conversion to DCC, they are still stored in their boxes. With the exception of a kit-built L&Y 3F 0-6-0 which I paid £200 for the highest I paid was for a Bachmann Jubilee, 'Victoria' (A firm favourite from Holbeck shed which I saw on regular Leeds - Blackpool services) which cost me the princely sum of £97 when Bachmann had just announced the first round of price increases which lead to the ridiculous situation we have today. I gave up because the locos I needed didn't exist (and still don't). The one exception being a Bachmann 'Crab' which got left behind at an exhibition and 'disappeared'. I really do wish you the best of luck with your endeavours and suspect you will inspire others to step up and fill those gaps. Respect!
Sam here is an idea that I hope I can convey to you for your buffers. Instead of attaching the large front of the actual buffer shaft (you will either glue it on in a bit or add a design it with a pin that you can later glue into the buffer shaft spring part that is the next section back to the engine mounted main support of the buffer mount. All that being confusing and said When you print the main part of the buffer to the engine on the inside of the front part add a small ridge inside (I will explain in a second). Next print the sliding part of the buffer shaft with a flat ridge at the back - to stop it from popping out when a spring is added (if you can imagine it as the original buffer printed backwards but small enough to slide into the buffer mount that mounts to the frame of the engine, so that when the spring is added it can not go any further than the lip when they touch) Long way around to explain I know but you are smart enough to figure out where I am coming from. Now slide the buffer shaft into the buffer mount so that when they touch the the buffer shaft will not come past the end of the buffer mount. Next install a small spring inside the buffer (between the back of the buffer shaft and what will will be the frame of the engine when mounted and attach the buffer mount to the frame. ( you can attack the whole unit any way you wish my thought is that on the buffer main mount you could make a couple small mounting pins that match up with a couple small holes in the frame and then add a drop of glue to to them. If that is to difficult just glue the whole buffer in place and not worry about the couple of =drops of glue that would get on the frame end of the spring, it would stop it from going any place - not like it could anyway You now have a spring buffer. The final thing to do would to be paint the parts and then glue (or even press fit) the front large part of the buffer contact to the of the buffer rod. By going this way you can paint the buffer mount black, the buffer shaft any color you wish - red I think is common for England - I am a yank so I am not sure and finally of you want to get fancy the actual buffer head in say a metallic silver or even make brown or a rusty color as if it has been used a lot. All I can say is that you already have the idea with the boiler front mount so you kind of get the idea I think where I am trying to go here. Pain in the arse to make the first one but once you have the drawing you can make spring buffers for all you engines and replace the ones that are not sprung. Good luck and I hope this might inspire you for ideas going forward. Of course you know us guys across the pond do things the hard way. Cheers
I've spent the last little while working on 3D Models myself (mainly trains, but with a few buildings on the side). I've been printing a few of the models in a resin 3D printer with varying success. Due to the size of the printer and the size of the models I tried so far, I've mostly tried to print models in N scale. Still trying to figure out how to get the models to print properly, but once I get the hang of it I plan on moving on to HO scale and experimenting with moving parts. Your models look great so far!
Amazing, if it all works out, and I don't doubt that it will, then the world is your oyster model railway wise, all those interesting designs that it isn't really worth the time and effort of the big companies can be obtainable to every modeller on earth. GWR Metro tank, LSWR A10s, Furness Coppernobs.... it's mall possible. Sam, you really are a wonderful human vbeing/ And as for your choise of first project... Gladstone is one of my favourate designs, she looks so pretty, yet was a damn effective loco... AND she is historically important as well being the first ever privately preserved loco. As long as you capture the over all spirit of the prototype, and it looks like you are getting there, the battle is won, and folks who wann fine detail can use the besic drawings you made and knock themselves out. It's just like it was in the old days of the hobby when you took a basic Triang or Lima R-T-R model and started detailing.... I can't wait til the next episode.
That looks good Sam. I agree that a 3d printer is a great modelling tool. You are doing a great job showing what can be done and importantly HOW and where the fun can be had too! Thanks
I don't have and not going to have a 3D printer. But I always enjoy watching what you do on your machines. You put a lot of work into the things that you have made so far. Including the made up balancing coaches, ! Keep up with the 3D design and making stuff for your enjoyment, and for your viewers as well!
As Always Sam. I find myself impressed by what your trying to Produce. I have already seen the Model produced and running. But I am watching this in Retrospect. You just amaze me with your work. Well Done young man..! Kim in Oz.😎
I wouldn't be surprised if someone scales it up bigger (or smaller) to make an O Gauge or N Gauge (or whatever gauge) Gladstone!, Can't blame them, LBSCR B1s are elegant, exquisite and beautiful designs
Fantastic job, it looks awesome and I can’t wait to see it printed whatever it comes out like. Fascinating watching you develop it from scratch. Great video Sam, thank you 👍
This is so impressive! I can't believe how detailed you've been able to make it. I was wondering is there any way to reduce the banding that occurred on the last model or is that a reality you'll have to just deal with, using 3d printing.
Absolutely! Print at small layer height, use filler primer and do plenty of sanding, and fill in any gaps with plastic putty - I've managed to eliminate all banding on Gladstone (video hopefully coming in the next few weeks!) Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Nice to see you do more 3D printing design Sam, should have a look at the LBSC C3 Class I did in N Gauge! Have been interested in the B1 class for a while, though my first go at a tender 0-4-2 would be something a little closer to home for me from the South Western... once I can find enough bits for it that is!
Breaking news : Hornby announces a LBSC B1 for Q4 2022... (It(s a joke, and I hope it will remains one !) Honestly, if you want something that looks like the real thing, rolls OK, gives great fun and costs pennies, you nailed it Sam ! Yes, there is compromises, but modelling is a choice of which compromises you will accept. Yours are well thought out, that would certainly give a very nice and functional model. I've pinpointed a PLM 030T Bourbonnais for my first 3D printed engine, same kind as your B1, but 0-6-0 configuration. Just needs to find some drawing and a 3D software that runs on Linux.
As someone who scratch builds freelance locos, I understand what you mean when you say it can be frustrating. things don't work, pieces don't sit straight E.T.C. but the end result is a model your proud of
I haven't been to this channel in a long while. Sam I think it's a wonderful idea to make the Glasscow 0-4-2 steam engine. Many pioneering engines from the Victorian error never gets released, I dont know why. The question is when you do complete this model how many coaches can it haul and what's its top speed?
Hi Sam, Let me say, Mind Blowing, I think you have done a fantastic job, can't wait to see the finished product, ( What next job with Hornby??), All the best Brian 🤗😎
Thanks so much Brian! haha not with Hornby... can't see them employing me (or me applying for that matter) any time soon! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Hi Sam. I'm still amazed at what you can achieve after only a year of 3D print design. When I first saw the cavity behind where the smokebox door was going to be, I thought "this is where the DCC decoder is going to go". Then, the penny dropped and I realised you're not the DCC Guy (that's Larry Puckett)! OK, so I can dream! When's the N gauge version coming (OK, I know you're going to say I would need to do that myself). Looking forward to the next video.
Sam I'm away this week but at home I have a book called , I believe, locomotives of the southern. It details each class, photos of each,but most importantly has drawings of each, probably from different angles. If you want it, you can have it. Once again I commend you for putting this onto the 3d community, there are lots of others out there that we can all benefit from, and after all even sketch up itself has been made public and free too. Perhaps I could suggest an idea though....maybe ask that if anyone wants to make a donation to download the files, it could go to a heritage railway or project. Or another charity. Just an idea. Kind regards Gary
Great! Great! Great! Video You have done a great job. This is also a great choice of engine to make. I would really like to try making it. It is also from an era that I really like. As you say, it is just a picture until it's printed. Wishing you all the best in the challenges ahead. Thanks for all your work and for sharing the process. I look forward to the next in this series.
Great job Sam that loco looks awesome, the engineering is superb, maybe some companies could learn a thing or two from you. Great video looking forward to seeing it running.
Edward Blount has been my favourite engine since I saw a Maskeline (??) line drawing of 'him' more than 60 years ago. The LBSCR engines and tenders have stiff cart springs on the outer axles and paired long throw coil springs on the centre axle. Note that as an 0-4-2 the second drivers have a different springing from the front drivers. How can an express engine have leading drivers?? Stroudley's 'Improved engine green' (bright yellow!) was to enable passengers to distinguish the Brighton line trains compared with the green engines of other railways at joint stations.
Hey Sam! Have you heard of Alfred and Judy...Bill and Bens basis. Quirky little engines...maybe it would be of your interest. You could have a Brake van Special!
What a wonderful looking model it will be. As you fettle the parts, I think you will find better ways to improve your model. Such a great tool to use. I am looking to get a resin printer to try and print some N gauge items. You are right about trying to get drawings of locomotives is difficult. I thought it might be possible to ask the railway museum to see if they have the original drawings on their database. There were rumours that they were scanning everything they had to computer to save what is on paper, especially as a lot of them have been lost due to water. Damp and the likes when they were stored in inappropriate buildings. I am looking for the double decker EMU which my father worked on as a guard. Although most of the slade green depot hated them, my father grew to like them, even though they were Limited in their routes. All I have is a photograph in a publication about southern emu / dmu’s . Keep safe and healthy and looking forward to seeing your results. Great channel.
Well done so far...and good luck with your 1st print and assembly....looking forward to see it....good joyce of prototype.....i like it.... with prices of RTR manufacturerers way to go..... thats why we older guys used to build stuff ourselfes in the 70s and 80s.....you live and learn.....yes...and wheels are these round things....seen it....:-)
This is SO cool, Sam! I love watching all your 3D printing experimentation. I think the model looks brilliant so far! The little tweaks you've made to the shape to make the mechanism and side rods work aren't noticeable at all to me; looks great! It's neat seeing you incorporate all the things you always comment on during reviews, like proper bearings and accessible, easily disassembled mechanisms. Quite an elegant design, inside and out! It's cool to see you using a software I've clocked hundreds of hours in, haha. SketchUp is a great free software, I've used it myself on dozens of digital modelling projects. It's quite intuitive and very useful; glad to see you using it so effectively!
Thank you so much - fingers crossed it all comes out okay! Glad to hear the oversized parts didn't look too bad to you. And definitely - designing a proper mechanism is very satisfying :3 Thanks for watching, Sam :)
As you're adding a separate backhead, why not open up the back of the boiler/cab front so that you can fit a small flywheel in there? You will probably still need to shorten the motor shaft, but its worth a second look.
Enjoyed the video, at the end when you said everything we've seen . . .I was waiting for "is an April fool's joke", but thankfully not. Really looking forward to the finished product, well done
Hi Sam what an innovative project you have here. Don't be too hard on yourself ref the details- if you were to buy a hornby railroad version of a loco, after it's moved 4 feet away from you on your layout can you tell the difference between railroad and a newly tooled version? It'll look great just you wait and see! Regards Terry.
I'm really pleased to see this, Sam. I've been in and out of this hobby for nearly 40 years and frankly seeing the prices go up from "just about affordable toys" when I was a kid to the ludicrous "exclusive pricing" we see these days, I truly believe it is time that modellers and hobbyists take back control from of this and share resources alike.
Thanks so much! I firmly believe the same... and finally we have the tools to make that happen! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
That was brilliant, Sam. I've been making models for over 50 years, now, and I find the prospect of what you are doing, utterly terrifying. I really hope it works (of course it will), and I want to see the finished model chugging round your layout.
I'm well impressed with your offer to make the plans free for anyone who wants one, too. I always had you down as a really nice bloke - now I'm 100% certain. Nice one.
Thank you so much Brian - it does look terrifying when all crammed into 30 mins... but in reality it was a very slow process of gradual development... and of course I didn't start with locos... I started with very simple wagons which were much easier! Making this free is the least I can do - it might give people the bug for this kind of thing :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Thank you so much Sam! I don't have room for a 3D printer, but I'm sure many others will appreciate being to make an LBSC B1 in OO! Keep up the fabulous work!
No problem Luke! You could probably still send off for the parts to be printed, though probably best to have your own machine! You can get one for the price of one or two OO locos... just saying ;)
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Thank you for going all Wintergatan on us by placing the fruits of your labour in the public domain! I have a filament and a resin printer, so I will definitely try to make this Class B1 loco. I have already been printing spare parts and motor mounts for my OO locos! I might also be able to print some early Finnish locomotives, many of which were manufactured in England in the mid 1800's. We also had 9 Baldwin made 4-4-0 American locomotives, lo and behold!
No problem at all - I'm really excited to see what people do with it! Do let me know how this goes with resin - I'd be interested to see that!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains No worries, I will definitely let you know. - Mika :)
It's instantly recognisable so thats a major achievement right there !
I like your pragmatism in creating the design. Achieving high levels of detail with a 0.4mm nozzle is very challenging and smaller nozzles just introduce more problems (clogs more likely and huge print times). Accepting that compromises have to be made is the right way even if it does upset some people. Well done.
What a cliff-hanger to leave us with! - I can't wait to see the next episode. Brilliant idea - excellent video,
haha sorry about that Rick - hope you enjoy the next step! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Some years ago I made a non-scale 3D image of a typical 0-4-0 UK loco using POV-RAY. It had few details. The modeling was done with a text description of all parts using Constructive Solid Geometry principles. It was animated so one could see the drive rods move and wheels turn. A very fun project. This was way before 3D printing was invented. CG steam and smoke had not been figured out at that time. Now I'm learning some 3D CAD to 3D print some replacement parts for a Bachmann Large Scale Shay. I fully understand the challenges and joy you are experiencing in this project. Well done. Thank you for sharing it with the world.
Wow that sounds great Paul - things like that are always great fun to make! Good luck with your replacement parts - incredibly satisfying when you can fix locos yourself like that :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Your enthusiasm is so infectious and it's a joy to watch your talent at work. Your so right about the future of 3D printing in our great hobby, it is the future whether you do it yourself, buy a commercial product or commission someone to print your designs. I really enjoyed this introduction and look forward to the next installment. Well done you.
Great video once again! I was thinking….. you could create a 3d printed object that fits into the tender of the 9f that many suffer from mazak rot and disintegrate. You could make it so that it clips into place (like the old ringfield enclosure) whilst allowing it to hold the electrical pickups and the wheel axels. This would help a lot of people such as myself whom have a dead 9f due to the tender ringfield enclosure turning to dust 😁
Thanks so much Dwayne - yeah you totally could do that - I've been considering it! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Hornby are going to do one of two things here.
Either
1. They will offer you a job.
2. They will suddenly 'do a hornby' and rush release their OWN model Hahaha.
May I suggest you could use lightly sprung top of wheel tread pickups onto the trailing wheels. This will give extra pick up and help to hold wheels onto the track.
I love that you have made them available for everyone as you can resize it to make it in a different scale so anyone can use the design.
Looks absolutely amazing Sam. I love the ethic behind this project, not to mention the amazing work that's gone into making it a reality. The only knowledge I can provide could be that I know companies such as markits produce ready to use brass detail parts such as buffers, whistles, handrail knobs, coupling hooks, etc. Perhaps you can use those on a printed model to elevate the finesse of parts that can't be printed?
I think you've got it right regarding 3D printing and the future - I don't think it's going to be long before you buy a design rather than a model.
I would love to see the finished loco in charge of a rake of Hatton's six-wheelers in the LBSCR mahogany livery. What a bowman's salute to certain people in Maidstone.
Ooh me too - I'll try to make that happen some day! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
You are without doubt, a dedicated hero and I don't even own a train set. I just enjoy watching your reviews. Thks
wow, this is great sam im also starting my 3d project from shapeways. the loco im painting/making is a furness railway k2 class. have a great evening sam.
Thanks very much! Ooh awesome - good luck with that! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Blimey, what to say. You really went to town on this one. We’ve been imagining anyone can indeed make and fit details such as pipes, handrails and bars to their own desire, perhaps not even 3D printed as you suggested. For H0, we’ve been picturing that scaling down to 1:87 could even be an option as well, but then how to acquire scaled wheels. Perhaps print the spokes part as you did and find correct diameter wheels for the rim parts. That would be a challenge since such wheels were of typical British design we were thinking. However, come to think of it, early Swiss and German electric locos had such wheels with driving rods as well, so spare parts could be found from German model manufacturers perhaps. For the entire design, some spaces for adding some serious weights will be needed I suppose. Don’t wait too long for Part 2 Sam! This is extraordinary!
Thanks Linda - obviously doing things this way won't be as refined as from the likes of Bachmann/Hornby... but this will cost £25 rather than £250 to make! Yeah I've always been able to find some sort of solution for wheels - and being able to print the centres is really a godsend!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
The b1 is my favourite locomotive, and I'm happy to see it get some love
haha it might be mine too actually - love the thing!! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Thank you for making this hobby so much more accessible for everyone.
Congratulations on the excellent Railway Modeller magazine article (August 2023) about this project Sam - it was a really well-written article and hopefully will show a whole new audience what is possible.
Thank you so much Rob, really glad you enjoyed the article!
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You're being too hard on yourself, Sam. I think that what you've done is awesome.
This is a replica, not a duplicate. Thicknesses and distances cannot be perfectly scaled because you're building it in plastic and in tiny scale.
It doesn't make any difference what those parts actually do. If you can see them then replicate them -- that's one of the joys of working in such a small scale.
I would ask you to reconsider one thing; the bumpers. They're really just a tube holding a little coill spring and the bumper shaft. The problem is the bumper shaft and its retainer. It is also something you can do very late in the build giving time to think about it. It would certainly underscore your complaints about non-working units on expensive commercial models.
Looking forward much to your progress. Cheers!
That's very kind of you Randy - yeah that's right - not a duplicate - important to remember this!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
This looks fantastic, been thinking of designing something (more modern day) myself but getting dimensions and drawings is incredibly difficult! Really looking forward to the rest of these videos! Great work
Thanks a lot Robert - yes it can be tricky to find the drawings - there are some good ones out there though!
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Lots of excellent loco books on the market that contain excellent drawings out there as well as many drawings. Go on line and search out what you would like, as most will be second hand.
There are great books out there with drawings of the locomotives and rolling stock some of which have measurements. Also if you really want to do some really accurate research the Railway Museum (or National Railway Museum as it was known) will allow people to go through their archives to look at drawings and even old photographs of the locomotives and rolling stock, I think you do have to talk to them before you head there.
Pretty good looking model!
Little tip, if you wanted to do wire handrails you could find handrail stanchions on Wizard Models, and for wire you could use guitar strings, they are pretty stiff and can be cut to length
Finally someone who likes scratchbuilding like me, i can’t tell you how frustrating it’s been to find someone who builds thaire own locos and rolling stock, thanks sam, everything i’ve found online has been either told it’s too hard or was a kit or nonexistant basically
Brilliant. Your second Prime Minister. Palmerston next!
I think you will soon outgrow your machine.
Hey, now you’re making a model, Hornby are bound to swoop in and release their own one to force you off the market!
Either way, you’ll get a B1, right?
This looks pretty awesome so far! hopefully you can get to the NRM to get better measurements of the real B1. I also suggest trying to make an LBSC Stroudley G class 2-2-2 and a Stroudley C/C1 class 0-6-0 from this same tooling
Really excellent stuff, I guess a mixed media solution with some bass parts might help refine some of the chunkier features, but then I think this exercise is all about finding the limits of 3d printing.
Thanks very much Chris - yeah maybe you're right! For me personally (as someone with no talent at handmaking things) 3D printing the parts just looks better every time!
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Interesting Chris. I like your idea of producing a 3D model with added finer details made from brass ( cab side sheets and roof as an idea) . The kit manufacturers went down this road in the 1970's. Chris Meecham produces some resin moulded locos along this idea.
I'm doing the same thing with a D36! Love to see your thought process on your design
Ooh amazing - good luck!! And thank you :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
It is awesome to see how far we are advancing in railway modelling.
I can hardly wait for part 2, what you are doing is fantastic. Cheers Greg
Thanks so much Greg - hope you enjoy the next video on this! :D
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You’ve done brilliantly Sam. Well done. Very illuminating, thank you 🙏
Thanks so much Nigel! :D
Thank you for the time and energy you put into this project. This is a wonderful gift to wake up to
Not at all - it's been so much fun!! :D
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Well Sam, you took on a real challenge and I admire your patience, inventive engineering, skills and will power, determent to bring this fine project to Ready To Run. No doubt you will succeed and I wish you good luck . I take my hat of for you Sam ! Very well done ! Until next episode. Cheers,
Fabulous Design Sam! Been working 3D myself for my own Model RR Collection. As I model with older trains, before 1960, it is difficult to come by replacement parts. The 3D printed parts take a while to design; a print or two to work out the strings; um, bugs, and off I go... Keep up the great videos!
Excellent work, looking forward to part 2. For anyone wishing to follow in your footsteps a good source is "Loco Profile 32, the Brighton Gladstones ". Published 1973, including 7mm scale side elevation as the colour centre spread, also a simplified elevation drawing in 4mm scale. Looking forward to seeing part 2 !
Thanks a lot Christopher - I'll have to look into that myself - cheers! :D
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Ah yes the Sam's studio - designing the loco future, because he cares.
for 3rd ever complete design i would not be as harsh on the connection between tender and locomotive, it will take some experimentation to get things right i reckon Sam cares so much he will eventually either just go deep into designing the part or keep tinkering with it across few locomotives.
This is brilliant.
Fathers and sons have always enjoyed building layouts, and now they will have an option to go even deeper into the process.
A manufacture not making a loco that has significance in your family? No problem.
A very interesting video he went through a lot of work to do this and I appreciate that thanks for sharing.
Thanks so much - I had a lot of fun doing this, so it's no sweat! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Sam I'm also a 3D model for many years, I really enjoyed SketchUp but I'm, Blender forever, I'm currently working on a strange SDJR loco. It's a good fun process 🙂
3D print a back plate that can be glued on at assembly. I would also consider a brass fly wheel, a mate with a lathe could knock one out in minutes. Ditto for the gearbox housing which would be easy in either brass or steel adding weight, for this you need a mini mill, their are plenty of folks out there with these.
A nice project worth while spending a little time on adding weight to your project. You also (if you haven't) watch u tube for the material used to print the gears.
Although I'm no longer active in model railways I might just buy a 3d printer soon and a small 2nd hand lathe as you've given me a few ideals.. Well done on your development I think you have made fantastic progress.
Wow - your loco design has really come on since your last 3D loco Sam - can't wait to see the next video.
Thanks so much!! Part 2 coming soon! :D
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Sam... it's wonderful.
If it hasn't been said already, I'm saying it now: "You've reinvented Scratch Building!"
Congratulations!
John
Sam, what a brilliant idea. You might upset the main manufacturers who could see you attacking their domain. But he'll, if your model is good, you might start a trend. Good luck.
The two brass things under the smoke box door are filled with cylinder oil to lubricate the valves or cylinders depending on the designer.
Great design Sam. Can’t wait to see the finished product. 👍🏾
Thank you!! Hope you enjoy part 2 :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
We definitely need more pre-Grouping locomotives from before 1900 as the market is just dominated by 1900-onwards with a few Victorian-era designs. Look forward to seeing that B1 and if you want an extra challenge, how about a LNWR Bloomer class in original condition, that would be prefect for with any 4-wheel coaches.
Well done Sam,
Good luck with the build print, looking forward to the results...🙂👍👏
Take care,
Jon B.
Oh my god :D I have literally dreamed of having a model of Gladstone ever since I saw it at the Nrm as a child. I even built a massive one in Minecraft. Thank you so much Sam 😭😭😄😄😄😄
haha me too!! It's been on my model railway bucket list forever.... ooh a Minecraft one sounds amazing - you'll have to email me some pics of that?! :D
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If I find some pictures I'll definitely send them
Well done that man! Let's hope that you start a landslide amongst modellers where we get the models we want rather than those the main companies say we can have (and expect us to pay through the nose for)!
Thank you so much! Yeah I agree - I love the idea of taking things into our own hands! :D
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@@SamsTrains You are welcome. I have some 30 loco's + suitable rolling stock for a layout that was never built, all brand new apart from running in and conversion to DCC, they are still stored in their boxes. With the exception of a kit-built L&Y 3F 0-6-0 which I paid £200 for the highest I paid was for a Bachmann Jubilee, 'Victoria' (A firm favourite from Holbeck shed which I saw on regular Leeds - Blackpool services) which cost me the princely sum of £97 when Bachmann had just announced the first round of price increases which lead to the ridiculous situation we have today. I gave up because the locos I needed didn't exist (and still don't). The one exception being a Bachmann 'Crab' which got left behind at an exhibition and 'disappeared'. I really do wish you the best of luck with your endeavours and suspect you will inspire others to step up and fill those gaps. Respect!
Thank you so much Sam! From the far-end of this world (India). Love watching your model train videos since several years now...
That's a pleasure - thanks so much for the support! And greetings from the UK :D
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WOW Sam - very excellent - well done you - I do hope that it does all 3D print out good for you!!! Good luck 🙂🚂🚂🚂
Sam here is an idea that I hope I can convey to you for your buffers. Instead of attaching the large front of the actual buffer shaft (you will either glue it on in a bit or add a design it with a pin that you can later glue into the buffer shaft spring part that is the next section back to the engine mounted main support of the buffer mount. All that being confusing and said
When you print the main part of the buffer to the engine on the inside of the front part add a small ridge inside (I will explain in a second). Next print the sliding part of the buffer shaft with a flat ridge at the back - to stop it from popping out when a spring is added (if you can imagine it as the original buffer printed backwards but small enough to slide into the buffer mount that mounts to the frame of the engine, so that when the spring is added it can not go any further than the lip when they touch) Long way around to explain I know but you are smart enough to figure out where I am coming from.
Now slide the buffer shaft into the buffer mount so that when they touch the the buffer shaft will not come past the end of the buffer mount. Next install a small spring inside the buffer (between the back of the buffer shaft and what will will be the frame of the engine when mounted and attach the buffer mount to the frame. ( you can attack the whole unit any way you wish my thought is that on the buffer main mount you could make a couple small mounting pins that match up with a couple small holes in the frame and then add a drop of glue to to them. If that is to difficult just glue the whole buffer in place and not worry about the couple of =drops of glue that would get on the frame end of the spring, it would stop it from going any place - not like it could anyway You now have a spring buffer. The final thing to do would to be paint the parts and then glue (or even press fit) the front large part of the buffer contact to the of the buffer rod.
By going this way you can paint the buffer mount black, the buffer shaft any color you wish - red I think is common for England - I am a yank so I am not sure and finally of you want to get fancy the actual buffer head in say a metallic silver or even make brown or a rusty color as if it has been used a lot.
All I can say is that you already have the idea with the boiler front mount so you kind of get the idea I think where I am trying to go here. Pain in the arse to make the first one but once you have the drawing you can make spring buffers for all you engines and replace the ones that are not sprung. Good luck and I hope this might inspire you for ideas going forward. Of course you know us guys across the pond do things the hard way. Cheers
Very impressive design there Sam...I am sure this is worth the effort...The design is like the combination of Emily, Donald/Douglas and Edward.
Thank you!! haha yeah it's a similar shape to Emily I suppose! :D
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From the basics of your new printer, to building a real life locomotive, you've gone a long way.
Sounds like something straight outta a Civ game
I've spent the last little while working on 3D Models myself (mainly trains, but with a few buildings on the side). I've been printing a few of the models in a resin 3D printer with varying success. Due to the size of the printer and the size of the models I tried so far, I've mostly tried to print models in N scale. Still trying to figure out how to get the models to print properly, but once I get the hang of it I plan on moving on to HO scale and experimenting with moving parts. Your models look great so far!
Oh wow! I just cant wait to see this completed!
Great Project!!!!! can't wait to see more! Keep up the good work!!
Looks totally impressive, Sam! The way the handrails are moulded on reminds me of Triang-Hornby models from 1966-onwards!
Thank you so much! haha oh dear!! Though they're not moulded - they will be separately fitted! :D
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@@SamsTrains Hey, Sam! Have you thought about making an LNWR George the Fifth Class for the Hornby T9 or D16 Chassis?
Love this channel. You really go above and beyond Sam.
Thanks very much Jim - appreciate it mate! :D
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This loco surely gets 5+++ stars in value for money!! This is such an amazing project Sam, you're doing many great things for this hobby!
Thanks so much Harry - that's very kind of you to say! :D
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Brilliant sam looking forward to the next step 👌
Nice work Sam, there’s quite a lot of work gone into that. Can’t wait to see what it turns out like mate
Awesome video very interesting just to see what it takes to design and build a 00 scale engine. Cannot wait to see part two. Great job Sam.
Thanks a lot Louis - hope you enjoy the next video on this! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Amazing, if it all works out, and I don't doubt that it will, then the world is your oyster model railway wise, all those interesting designs that it isn't really worth the time and effort of the big companies can be obtainable to every modeller on earth. GWR Metro tank, LSWR A10s, Furness Coppernobs.... it's mall possible. Sam, you really are a wonderful human vbeing/
And as for your choise of first project... Gladstone is one of my favourate designs, she looks so pretty, yet was a damn effective loco... AND she is historically important as well being the first ever privately preserved loco. As long as you capture the over all spirit of the prototype, and it looks like you are getting there, the battle is won, and folks who wann fine detail can use the besic drawings you made and knock themselves out. It's just like it was in the old days of the hobby when you took a basic Triang or Lima R-T-R model and started detailing....
I can't wait til the next episode.
That looks good Sam. I agree that a 3d printer is a great modelling tool. You are doing a great job showing what can be done and importantly HOW and where the fun can be had too! Thanks
I don't have and not going to have a 3D printer. But I always enjoy watching what you do on your machines. You put a lot of work into the things that you have made so far. Including the made up balancing coaches, ! Keep up with the 3D design and making stuff for your enjoyment, and for your viewers as well!
As Always Sam. I find myself impressed by what your trying to Produce.
I have already seen the Model produced and running.
But I am watching this in Retrospect. You just amaze me with your work.
Well Done young man..!
Kim in Oz.😎
I wouldn't be surprised if someone scales it up bigger (or smaller) to make an O Gauge or N Gauge (or whatever gauge) Gladstone!, Can't blame them, LBSCR B1s are elegant, exquisite and beautiful designs
I think it's awesome to create something and then see what other people do with it. Well done!
What a cliffhanger! Thanks Sam :)
Really looking forward to see the next video of this build and seeing whether it works or not
Thanks a lot Glenn - fingers crossed! :D
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Fantastic job, it looks awesome and I can’t wait to see it printed whatever it comes out like. Fascinating watching you develop it from scratch. Great video Sam, thank you 👍
Thanks a lot Paul - can't wait until it's done! :D
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This is so impressive! I can't believe how detailed you've been able to make it. I was wondering is there any way to reduce the banding that occurred on the last model or is that a reality you'll have to just deal with, using 3d printing.
Absolutely! Print at small layer height, use filler primer and do plenty of sanding, and fill in any gaps with plastic putty - I've managed to eliminate all banding on Gladstone (video hopefully coming in the next few weeks!)
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Nice to see you do more 3D printing design Sam, should have a look at the LBSC C3 Class I did in N Gauge! Have been interested in the B1 class for a while, though my first go at a tender 0-4-2 would be something a little closer to home for me from the South Western... once I can find enough bits for it that is!
Breaking news : Hornby announces a LBSC B1 for Q4 2022... (It(s a joke, and I hope it will remains one !)
Honestly, if you want something that looks like the real thing, rolls OK, gives great fun and costs pennies, you nailed it Sam !
Yes, there is compromises, but modelling is a choice of which compromises you will accept. Yours are well thought out, that would certainly give a very nice and functional model.
I've pinpointed a PLM 030T Bourbonnais for my first 3D printed engine, same kind as your B1, but 0-6-0 configuration. Just needs to find some drawing and a 3D software that runs on Linux.
As someone who scratch builds freelance locos, I understand what you mean when you say it can be frustrating. things don't work, pieces don't sit straight E.T.C. but the end result is a model your proud of
I haven't been to this channel in a long while. Sam I think it's a wonderful idea to make the Glasscow 0-4-2 steam engine. Many pioneering engines from the Victorian error never gets released, I dont know why. The question is when you do complete this model how many coaches can it haul and what's its top speed?
Super excited for this model. Can’t wait to print it out myself
Super exciting, love the 3d printing videos, I was not prepared for the cliffhanger though lol. Cant wait for the next video.
Thanks so much Steven - haha yeah sorry about the cliffhanger!
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Hi Sam, Let me say, Mind Blowing, I think you have done a fantastic job, can't wait to see the finished product, ( What next job with Hornby??), All the best Brian 🤗😎
Thanks so much Brian! haha not with Hornby... can't see them employing me (or me applying for that matter) any time soon! ;D
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Hi Sam. I'm still amazed at what you can achieve after only a year of 3D print design. When I first saw the cavity behind where the smokebox door was going to be, I thought "this is where the DCC decoder is going to go". Then, the penny dropped and I realised you're not the DCC Guy (that's Larry Puckett)! OK, so I can dream! When's the N gauge version coming (OK, I know you're going to say I would need to do that myself). Looking forward to the next video.
Great work! I'm really intrigued to see how this design prints and if it actually works....
Thanks James - me too haha! :D
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This needs to be painted in IEG!
Absolutely fantastic work Sam!
Ooh it will be! And thank you so much! :D
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Sam I'm away this week but at home I have a book called , I believe, locomotives of the southern. It details each class, photos of each,but most importantly has drawings of each, probably from different angles. If you want it, you can have it. Once again I commend you for putting this onto the 3d community, there are lots of others out there that we can all benefit from, and after all even sketch up itself has been made public and free too.
Perhaps I could suggest an idea though....maybe ask that if anyone wants to make a donation to download the files, it could go to a heritage railway or project. Or another charity. Just an idea.
Kind regards Gary
So, Sam, you've invented the Stroudley Improved B1X, now with better clearances!
Great! Great! Great! Video You have done a great job. This is also a great choice of engine to make. I would really like to try making it. It is also from an era that I really like. As you say, it is just a picture until it's printed. Wishing you all the best in the challenges ahead. Thanks for all your work and for sharing the process. I look forward to the next in this series.
Thanks so much Robert - it had to be Gladstone for me - I just love the class so much! Thanks for the kind words!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Absolutely brilliant. I will be one of the first to download and build it when you finalise the design. Good luck with the build.
Thanks so much Rob - appreciate it, and good luck with your build! :D
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Great job Sam that loco looks awesome, the engineering is superb, maybe some companies could learn a thing or two from you. Great video looking forward to seeing it running.
haha thanks so much Louie - appreciate it!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Edward Blount has been my favourite engine since I saw a Maskeline (??) line drawing of 'him' more than 60 years ago.
The LBSCR engines and tenders have stiff cart springs on the outer axles and paired long throw coil springs on the centre axle. Note that as an 0-4-2 the second drivers have a different springing from the front drivers. How can an express engine have leading drivers??
Stroudley's 'Improved engine green' (bright yellow!) was to enable passengers to distinguish the Brighton line trains compared with the green engines of other railways at joint stations.
Awesome stuff! - looking forward Sam to the next instalment….Cheers
Thanks so much Chris! :D
Hey Sam! Have you heard of Alfred and Judy...Bill and Bens basis. Quirky little engines...maybe it would be of your interest. You could have a Brake van Special!
What a wonderful looking model it will be. As you fettle the parts, I think you will find better ways to improve your model. Such a great tool to use. I am looking to get a resin printer to try and print some N gauge items. You are right about trying to get drawings of locomotives is difficult. I thought it might be possible to ask the railway museum to see if they have the original drawings on their database. There were rumours that they were scanning everything they had to computer to save what is on paper, especially as a lot of them have been lost due to water. Damp and the likes when they were stored in inappropriate buildings. I am looking for the double decker EMU which my father worked on as a guard. Although most of the slade green depot hated them, my father grew to like them, even though they were Limited in their routes. All I have is a photograph in a publication about southern emu / dmu’s . Keep safe and healthy and looking forward to seeing your results. Great channel.
Beautiful prototype choice
Well done so far...and good luck with your 1st print and assembly....looking forward to see it....good joyce of prototype.....i like it....
with prices of RTR manufacturerers way to go.....
thats why we older guys used to build stuff ourselfes in the 70s and 80s.....you live and learn.....yes...and wheels are these round things....seen it....:-)
Thanks so much! That video is in the works already - hope you enjoy what's to come next! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
This is SO cool, Sam! I love watching all your 3D printing experimentation. I think the model looks brilliant so far! The little tweaks you've made to the shape to make the mechanism and side rods work aren't noticeable at all to me; looks great! It's neat seeing you incorporate all the things you always comment on during reviews, like proper bearings and accessible, easily disassembled mechanisms. Quite an elegant design, inside and out!
It's cool to see you using a software I've clocked hundreds of hours in, haha. SketchUp is a great free software, I've used it myself on dozens of digital modelling projects. It's quite intuitive and very useful; glad to see you using it so effectively!
Thank you so much - fingers crossed it all comes out okay! Glad to hear the oversized parts didn't look too bad to you. And definitely - designing a proper mechanism is very satisfying :3
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
As you're adding a separate backhead, why not open up the back of the boiler/cab front so that you can fit a small flywheel in there? You will probably still need to shorten the motor shaft, but its worth a second look.
Enjoyed the video, at the end when you said everything we've seen . . .I was waiting for "is an April fool's joke", but thankfully not. Really looking forward to the finished product, well done
Hi Sam what an innovative project you have here. Don't be too hard on yourself ref the details- if you were to buy a hornby railroad version of a loco, after it's moved 4 feet away from you on your layout can you tell the difference between railroad and a newly tooled version? It'll look great just you wait and see! Regards Terry.