Remington Spirit X
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Good morning everyone. Thanks Andy and the AAR team for another great video. It’s a shame that rifle needs so much time and effort to get it to shoot straight. I just can’t see the target audience that a rifle at that price point is aimed at having the patience to sit pellet testing cleaning and leading in, which in general are usually actions performed by more serious target shooters, non of which will be using a £500ish rifle. Especially when you consider you can pick up a full gamo phox or gx40 package and get better results straight out of the box. I always admire Andy’s ability and willingness to always try to give the benefit of doubt and not just call a product 5h1t.
I was just about to write the same comment myself, but you misspelt s##@t
Totally agree. I really want a bullpup and I love the form factor of this one in particular, but it's a very hard sell with the listed issues so I'm also leaning towards a Gamo (GX-40 or 250).
I feel Andy's review would have been a lot less forgiving if this was a standard rifle form factor.. but I understand the allure.
It is actually (not intentionally) targeted to DIY guys! If You take it apart and smoothen out rough edges and put it back together You can get these shoot VERY accurately! You can make it Your own bullpup.
I have remington p35 in .177 and a p35x in .22 both of which had no issues sighting in. Its odd that Andy tested the snowpeak p35 and had no problem getting tight groups. It's the same rifle ,different stocks. I've got a Walther lg400 and a weirauch hw100kt. The Remington's are not far behind these much more expensive rifles.The p35's are certainly not 5h1t.
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You pay ur money u take ur chance. For me the fact that the supplying dealer has had to “ orange mod “ them speaks volumes about the manufacturing quality control and the importers mindset as to the products they are putting to the market.
"orange modded".. 🤔....you mean they've wound the hammer spring in a bit...😂😂😂
Shhh.. the boys in sales will be furious with you..
"With familiarity ... you could prove to be a pretty effective tool." LOL!
Yup. These surely look good, no matter what it is named. I wouldn't mind paying that price.
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Thanks to Andy and crew once again!😊
It must be Friday, sitting in the office with a coffee in hand and not starting until I have watch AAR latest video! Another good one!
Nice to meet and chat with Andy today at the Vector shop whilst making an air tank purchase. Great customer service from Julie and her team again.
Another top quality unbiased video , a pleasure to view and learn from.
Excellent channel for airgun enthusiasts!
Lovely. Mid winter here in South Africa, and that looks like a perfect rifle to carry while walking about in the veld.
Morning from England ... Whot rifle do you have ?. Hope its warm still there
@@simonnoble7589 we are able to buy full power Airguns. I own a P35, Avenge X and the Avenger Bullpup. Ps winter over here is like summer over there, but without the tan....
Morning all! Excellent weather for a bit of shooting. But first: a superb review by Andy. Friday as it should be!
morning , its very windy here n chilly ... Been a good week
@@simonnoble7589 Morning Simon. some wind, up to 8mph. Temps today between 17°C (now) and 22°C this afternoon. Love it!
@@fliesarenegade Just right for Rabbits ! Enjoy
polished my barrel with jb bore paste and then flitz and it is more acurate than my daystate revere and fx maverick out to 90 yards 3/4" to 1" groups at 90 yds one hole out to 50yds my go to rifle with a pard ds 35LRF
Every air rifle, or air pistol I've added to my collection, new or secondhand, gets the bore cleaned, so you start on a level playing field. In regards new air rifles and pistols, not one has had anything like a clean bore, which, at the very least means some protective coating has been applied for transportation and storage. Whilst some have been cleaned with a couple of pull throughs, others, well, a tractor to pull out the potatoes might be a bit over the top, but you get the idea 😁.
Informative and entertaining review (as ever) thanks Andy.
Following your recent review of the BSA Defiant, I bought one (went for the walnut version - I'm not big on the black "tactical" finish). Comparing it with the Remington bullpup offering, I have no buyer's regret.
FYI, my BSA doesn't like JSBs very much either. BSA's own, QYS and H&N all work well though.
The power will be in the 10's.
Out of the box. On the rear of the gun is an allen screw adjustment for the hammer spring. If you turn it clockwise 3 turns the power will be in the 11's with 8.44 grain pellets. If you use 10.33 grain pellets it is just under 12 ft lbs. That's why it's in the 10's out of the box, to keep it legal
Grea tip thanks .... TIP have you tried dead centre pellets by JTS ? they shoot well in most of my 30 plus rifles ...
Can you turn it more times to get more power?
@@TheHungryGames i would leave that to a Gunsmith , dont play around with it.. play safe
@TheHungryGames 3 turns is about max. Its so you can't go over 12 ft lbs
@simonnoble7589 I will give them a go. I'm using the jsb rs pellets at the moment ,Good results
I just bought this (the full power Snowpeak 177 version). After the first 100 shots, it got very accurate. Now I consistently get >1cm groups at 20 meters using Baracuda 8 and a Vector Veyron 6-24x44 scope (basically everything Andy recommended). I absolutly love this gun. And for only 500 euros, its madness. Thanks to Andy for the review and the recommendations! :)
How much speed you get in FPS ?
@@ArtemisP15 Sorry, I don't know. I do not own a chronograph.
@@k-d-n where do you live and from where did you buy it ?
It seems to me that there is a feed problem that is damaging the pellets as the feeding process seems to be “catchy”
Did anyone else notice? Apart from that it seems to be good value for the shekels.
Yes, and damaged pellet skirts would help explain the inaccuracy.
Good review Andy
Another great wee video..brilliant
Very small point I know but it's aitch not haitch [easily done].Great review as always ,really fancy picking up one of these .
Thanks for sharing Andy 🎯🇬🇧👍🏼
I have the same gun, but badged up as the Stoeger XM1 and the issue is with the mags. Too much spring tension affects the first few shots. I bought a single shot loader and the groups get much tighter.
Seems like a lot of effort (and money) to get a gun to shoot almost as good as it looks. There are PCPs out there about the same price point that are easier to work with and are far more accurate straight out of the box. Remington has just about zero air gun (all types) presence here in the USA, maybe a couple of Walmart type springers, but that's it, and after watching this, it's not surprising. IMHO, neither a game changer, value for money or performer. As an Ex Pat living across the pond, I like to keep my eye on all things air gun back home and Andy, your channel is a much watch for me, thanks for all the work you put in and excellent presentations. 😁👍
Rather than supplying a 'starter scope', I believe the rifle should either be supplied minus this item (which will no doubt end up in a drawer somewhere), or offer a more appropriate scope at a dearer price. Just my opinion anyway.
So funny I looked at this rifle on Saturday and you've just reviewed it in time for me. I'm thinking either this or the t rex bullpup.
Looks like the Snowpeak P35X, and improved version of the good old P35. P35 has very good reviews overall, I have a XM1 bullpup and it's superb.
Good morning , have a Fab weekend
Very nice gun but I'm a bolt over sideleaver and not fan of pressure gauge at the end of the cylinder great video andy
For true accuracy testing have you ever considered clamping in something like a workbench or other device .Set crosshairs on bullseye just to check between shots its still on target ,then
gently squeezing the trigger .Also weigh the pellets and sort .I have found so called 8.4 grain pellets 8 g 8.1g 8.2g 8.3g 8.4g 8.5 g etc this can effect velocity and accuracy by 20 fps .Remove any chance of cant with spirit bubble on scope and rifle .This kind of set up although time consuming removes human error. Just a thought take care.
Are you really telling Andy how to shoot..?
REALLY?
WOW 😂
On a few of my snowpeak guns, which this obviously is, damaged barrel O-rings caused this level of inconsistency and accuracy. That and polishing the pellet loading ramp just before the transfer port. There could easily be a tiny bit of swarf which is nicking the pellet skirts and heads. Worth checking.
This is a very pretty gun but I got my T-rex bullpup for less than half the price of this on Spain and it weighs half a kilo less.
Most Chinese and Turkish guns benefit greatly from a bit of polishing and finishing. Pay half the price of something more established but you probably should spend an hour or two tweaking them.
I'll shut up now
My 1st airgun is either going to be this spirit x or the trex bullpup!
Interesting! Very nice lookin bull pup!!
Feels like the late 90s all over again. X-TREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEME!
Once you got on target it was great
Thanks
great video sir, thanks... can you swap the cocking lever to the left side and how do you that?
At 11.5 ftlb with the 8.44 grain it will be very close if not over the 12 ftlb with jsb heavy’s and if you use Qys magnums it would be close to 14 ftlb
Made of Chineseium with a Remington badge so more can be charged for it.
Much like the device you used to make this comment.
Not a big Bullpup fan, but it's not a bad looking rifle. I like the real wooden stock over polymer.
Sounds like you 'want' it to be better than what it is because of how much you like the looks. That action sounded quite 'crunchy' and didn't seem smooth. Takes quite a bit of prep to get it just acceptable.
Some cheap regs need 200-400 shots to settle. Even if the speeds look good. My fortitude was horrendous and became a laser after 300 shots
TBH I think it would be better to forget the cheap scope and include another magazine, when paying over £500 for a gun you should expect a couple of magazines at the very least 40 metres is a good test of a sub . 12 .177, wouldn't try it with a .22 though as I've seen some reviewers do
So true
Morning Andy the cocking action doesn’t seem very smooth or is it just the video?.
Garbage magazine, anyone getting one of these do yourself a favor and get a decent mag from Darco (Carm magazines)
I bet it's the magazine. Being basically P35, it's mags has a bit strong spring and sharp edge around the hole that pellet is pushed to the breech. It could be harsh and cut pieces off of a pellet and out from the window goes accuracy! That's why I ordered 3D printed CARM mags for my P35.
Not sure if I would bye one especially if I had to pay to get the power level up to where it should be at 11.6 foot lbs.
As you say, it's basically a P35. Barreta did their spin on it in the form of the XM1 BP.
I loved the feel and how well it shouldered, but, and this is the same as all variants, it's inconsistent in accuracy. If someone can fix that, then they will have a cracking rifle. Until then it remains just another display gun.
The ET comment got me 🤣😊
Please, someone correct me if I’m wrong, but that rest that you have with adjustable feet. Surely the adjustments on that are completely unnecessary considering the fact that you could make it as level as you like but it Won’t matter at all if you place the gun on it incorrectly? It’s not like a full gun stand that holds both the front and the stock.
Resembles the BSA Defiant?
Nice stock
Nice.
Excellent video as normal but could you please do the BSA take down rifle if that’s possible many thanks
Stoeger XM1 bullpup with wood furniture basically.
Exactly ! Except MY XM-1, in .22 caliber has 30 FPE for great varmint work !
@@jamesoconnor8044 I was wrong anyway Stoeger come under Berreta Holding not Remington.
Good grouping
Morning all, I like the look of this Remington, but far to much messing , but great review as ever.
I like your videos...
scope is verry high above the barrel might make calculating hold over and under an issue maybe
Nice Artemis P35x Airgun
how's the crowning job on this variant ? is it as abysmal as on the XM1 ?
Great review, but a little more favourable in this one as its been given a lot more tlc than others
Just look at the height of that scope above the barrel.
Morning, Great review, please forgive me but is cleaning the barrel of a new rifle before shooting not standard practice? I assume u did this with every new rifle. Great to see the Remington name out there, even if is badge engineering.
Morning all
Thanks Andy for another full and honest review. The appearance isn't to my liking (but each to their own) and to my old eyes and ears, it did seem a little clunky. N.B. Clunky is a specific engineering term. Engineer (noun): Someone who does precision guesswork, based on unreliable data provided by those of questionable knowledge. A.K.A. - Wizard, Magician.
QUESTION: Is this gun regulated ? ? Thanks Andy !! Dave in USA
Lovely looking but I'll stick to my diana stormrider it's a lot cheaper and my groups are sub 10mm at 25 yards.
Nice review and gun but a shame it took so much time and effort to get is shooting ok which might put a lot of people off! Have a good weekend.
For the money sounds like there are better options available, like a Gamo GX40, unless you must have a Bullpup.
Bsa defiant?
I really don't like the excuses being made for what is clearly a very inaccurate gun. I always considered your reviews relatively unbiased
Grouping isn't great even with all the tlc and pellet fussing. I want to love this gun, but something like a Gamo gx is more accurate, less fussy and cheaper and doesn't require a power mod out of the box.
Hi Andy, what happened to your finger?
At £500 plus, it seems a lot of sorting is needed to get right. Chinese QA/QC ?
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Expect a call from Steyr Pro X aesthetic police? (Ok it’s not semi-auto but that was my first thought when I saw the video thumbnail with Friday early eyes)
Y have the same stock
I am a person who has been watching this channel for about 6 months. I would like to start practicing a little bit of air gunning and I am thinking about buying but I do not know which model to choose. Couldn't you make some small ''insert'' like 5 best air guns for a start in the price of 1-500 and 500-1000?
Kral NP02 or Empire X you won't regret either
Gamo GX-250
Gamo gx -40 good entry level gun
Sounded horrendous being loaded
It's a Stoeger!
I sold my hatsan gladius at a crazy unscoped 10.2 pounds
Snowpeak P35X
Stoeger xm1 bullpup also under Remington name.
@@devilchild8811 The XM1 bullpup is the regular P35.
@@WebWolf89 snow peak aren’t anything to do with Remington as far as I’m aware. Where as Stoeger are under the Remington brand.
@@devilchild8811 Stoeger is a Beretta brand. Snowpeak brands/builds guns for a lot of manufacturers, like Diana, for example. This Remington is literally the P35x with a different sticker. The XM1 BP is a P35 with a slightly modified stock.
@@WebWolf89 Umerex Zelos ..........
Aiwa 😘💕👍👍
The barrels seem to let the Chinese made guns down. For that price I'd expect accuracy.
Nah hard pass. You can get much more fir the same price from Gamo. Underpowered, pellet fussy, dodgy looking action. Like thd stock but not worth the adking price.
Any you'd recommend that are lightweight?
Oh great...another PCP! 🥱
Morning.
Andy sir , really , I know you can shoot, we understand you promote, but how the hell did you keep a straight face, but if you buy a air gun out of the box even with a decent scope you should be hitting a ten pence pice even with out laying some lead at 40 meters , most air rifles are capable of hitting a 50pence pice at 50 meters springer or pcp , I would recommend this as a perfect cricket bat 🏏, remove the barrel wack a rubber grip on the air chamber, ? How many rifles have you cleaned before shooting them ??? Not me never I’m 60 , even I couldn’t make that shoot straight, dm me Andy , what’s going on really mate , it’s so obvious your not your usual self mate , respect love your vids in the air rifle community respected? Don’t thrown it away sir , ❤
Morning Andy . Well Mrs P is at home so meusli was the breakfast of the day , is it just me or does it remind anyone else of sweeping out the canary cage ?
Andy i enjoy your reviews and look forward to Friday, i enjoyed this review but for all the wrong reasons i think . When i pen a reply i always try to be polite and honest and most of all positive and as the major negative has already been spotted by another commenter i wont repeat it. Secondly i know your a bit of a crack shot with anything from a bicycle pump filled with peas to the latest 1.5 K tack driver and this time mate you struggled .
Do you want some meusli ?
Dave
The scope comments are the most negative I've ever seen Andy.
Cardboard tube and plastic lenses?
Na not at 500 squid. Not good enough 😮
watched every review you have done and ive met you a few times...and on this occasion it strikes me your not really convinced about this gun!!
i get where your coming from with the looks and build but this review is just lacking the normal ANDY ENTHUSIASM
that said...great review
morning all
morning , chilly start in Yorkshire ... cheers
I had the chance to shoot one of these at the range the other day. Not impressed. The quality, at least on the one I handled was very average. I wish they had made the engraving of the name and model the same colour - it appears to be laser engraved and not very well. The stippling is pressed and was very uneven. One of the edges on the scope rail was sharp enough to draw blood and I echo Andy's point on the pressure gauge, please don't mount them at the sharp end. This is likely to be a kids gun, and encouraging them to look down the barrel is not great, but that is an argument I have against many manufacturers. Why supply them with a scope which is totally useless - it's not drawer fodder it's bin fodder - do away with it and reduce the price accordingly (probably only about a tenner). Lastly it shot all over the place and the power was very inconsistent. One shot would be 10.3 the next 9.9 then 10.6 with the same pellets. I was not the only one shooting it so it's not just me (I am no crack shot!) and nobody was grouping better than 7's and 8's. When you look at some of the bullpups coming out of Turkey at a similar price (even less as there is no wasted money on a rubbish scope) you would not pay this one lip service. Sorry - but there it is.
Pinker yes Pest / Target no buy a BSA
Sorry but it's just far too tall with the scope on for my liking .
You'll learn how to zero a 'scope on day I hope ... !
defo the worst one to date thanks andy welldone😊
Another P35 Snowpeak / Stoeger XM1 / Remington Spirit X clone..
Remington no longer exists, they went bankrupt in 2020 and were bought out, hence the lower quality. It’s just a name now, it’s very unfortunate.
What predators can this kill
Your wallet...😃
None... At best this rifle should be used for small quarry. Rats to rabbits, pigeons, crows etc.
It should NOT be used for foxes or larger. At 11.58ft/lbs it doesn't have the appropriate stopping/put down power.
For that you will need either an FAC rifle or a proper firearm that has the muzzle energy. Something like the .17 HMR with expanding ammunition or a larger calibre such as the .22-250 or a .270 win mag.
Do NOT use this rifle for inappropriately sized quarry, it would be extremely irresponsible and you will only do more harm than good when doing some pest control.
UK version a 12 ft lbs would be limited to mice, rats, rabbits and most birds. If you're in the US they might sell a more powerful version as standard.
Don't like this at all , save money and buy the T rex it's very accurate which I was shocked about .
I totally agree I have the bull pup t rex and it's great for the price and only £300
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A gun that won’t shoot straight at any price point is worthless,especially sub 12 when you need pin point accuracy,fair doos he gave it every chance but I’ve seen some bargain basement guns he’s tested which really out shoot it so pointless gun