Herta took the pole position today for the race tomorrow in Toronto. That means the Josh Jinx will be _spectacular_ tomorrow. I'm thinking all four wheels somehow coming off at the same time during the race.
Needs P3 or better. He’s gotta close out 50 pts right now. Next year by the current ISC, valuable pts are about to expire even adjusted for the extended Covid friendly superlicense tally window.
Yeah he needs a Scott Dixon-esque run of solid points finishes. I always feel watching Herta that he’s either on the edge of greatness or ending up in the barrier.
If he doesn't get the points this season, it will be more complicated next year. Until this year can be the best 3 years out of 4. Next year will be only the last 3 seasons.
He has 32, points up to last year. His best chance is this year. Because he can choose points from 3 years out of 4 because the covid. For next year will be only 3 years.
A maybe slightly odd comparison but I see Herta as very similar to McRae. Absolutely untouchable on a good day and then visiting the scenery on the rest
And probobly it will be for the best - at least in IndyCar his immense talent is recognized and could become a legend there like say Scott Dixon or Will Power. Mind you that Dixon was also offered a F1 seat in the 00's, but declined. Will Power had also tested in a F1 car.
He wont decide that, his boss will do it. Is the same for pato, zak wants retain pato o'ward in indycar bc drives well for the team and is a good character in the sport. They will do the same to Colton Herta soon sincethe idea of bring Andretti to F1 is dead until 2026. In that time we will have a better drivers as options.
I’d say Logan has the best chance just cause he’s performing pretty good in F2 right now and I’d bet F1 teams prefer F2 success more than they do F3 or Indy car success
Thanks to the penalties Sargeant won his second feature race in a row this weekend and is now second in F2 points for the season. I think Herta is a really good driver but if I was an F1 team looking for an America driver I'd be paying more attention to Sargeant than Herta.
@@hlanguhome7905 De Vries??? Pff c'mon bro and Pourchaire is getting smashed by Drugovich who already showed to be cold under pressure,good at managing tyres and stellar fast when he's in front...
@@henry247 hyping all up after 3 wins this year is mad. Drugovich has bad to worst racing records compared to the top racing contigents of f2. His chances are slim to none.
@@henry247 I mean, Drugovich is in his third season, and realistically speaking, he should have beaten Zhou last season ( and bear in mind that was when he was actually at a top team), yet the guy couldn't even snag a win last season. He's literally turning out almost like De Vries did in F2, while we've got Pourchaire just behind him; following him and Daruvala still are two strong rookies in Sargeant and Hauger. Anything can still happen imo though. *Now here's the long read* It doesn't help Drugovich that he's not in an academy. Not to mention pretty much all of them already have some focus on other Juniors: Williams have Sargeant (and Nissany, but he's never getting near a race seat tbh). Sauber have Pourchaire. Even with Vips gone, Red Bull still have four Juniors in F2 alone this year (but Tsunoda looks like he'll retain his seat and Gasly is already staying on for 2023) Even if he's not racing, Ferrari still have Shwartzman (someone who has shown much more potential than Drugovich) as their test driver this year, and with his newly acquired Israeli license could be a wildcard option to replace Mick at Haas. They also have A. Leclerc, Bearman, and Camara (A Brazilian too) in the lower ranks doing well. Mercedes have Vesti (and also their own superstar in the lower ranks in Kimi Antonelli, go search up that kid) And Alpine have Doohan, not to mention their superstar in Piastri. Any other team not mentioned are simply locked in already and won't risk a rookie. Talent and/or budget are often seen as all that's needed to get to F1, but timing is also significant too. And matter of fact is, it's looking like Drugovich is a little too late to the party. In my opinion (feel free to dispute it), if he even wants a chance at an F1 seat, he'll have to dominate the F2 championship to the end, maybe even more than De Vries did. Not impossible, sure, but once Prema and Carlin fully come into force will he still be unstoppable?
I personally think Pato would be first in line for a drive at McLaren before Herta if I'm being honest, Pato is already in the McLaren family and whilst he has a new Indy contract there wouldn't be a problem releasing him from that contract and into a McLaren F1 drive, and plus that relationship with Zak is already there. Herta's best bet is if Andretti's bid to have a team in F1 succeeds, though I do agree he deserves a chance in F1.
As a Mexican American, even if Pato is an Irish white by blood, he’s still disadvantaged by being Mexican. I think McLaren would go with the American for the media advantage. They’ll become the team new Americans root for over Haas. Both deserve the drive, but I don’t think Pato will get the offer first. His best chance with McLaren F1 is Colton going to Andretti F1
However i don't think Pato would necessarily want to go to F1. Don't get me wrong he could challenge for a title in the right equipment, but its a high risk going from a secure championship-caliber team in IndyCar to a upper midfield team in F1 without any chance of actually having a shot at winning anything but a lucky race win. Plus it could kill his confidence.
In all seriousness though, to give you an idea on how close IndyCar really is, Grosjean has done well since doing a limited schedule last year. Despite that limited schedule, he still nearly scored as many points as IndyCar's 2021 rookie of the year Scott McLaughlin, a New Zealand driver who was previously a dominate force in the Supercars Championship in Australia. Grosjean pointed out how nobody eyed the experience difference between the two, where Grosjean had nearly 20 years of open-wheel experience compared to McLaughlin's one year. At the first race of 2022, McLaughlin proceeded to clean the field's clock in a dominating win at St. Petersburg, therefore getting an IndyCar win before Grosjean. So yeah. Watch more IndyCar. That way, there may be less; F1 fans: [Watches one IndyCar race] F1 fans: "Ericsson won?! *THIS SERIES SUCKS!!"*
I mean, Ericsson was up against some tough competition in sauber, he was also quite heavy and ran most of his career without any water during the races. Some are even speculating that charles got some “tips” from ferrari, which is quite clear actually, when you look at Abu Dhabi 2018 quali, where the only point on track where he was faster was the first sector, which is basically just made up of three straights.
Josh: “Is Colton Herta the next Formula 1 driver?” Logan Sargeant: *gets pole at Silverstone, wins at Silverstone, now 3rd in Formula 2 standing in his rookie season* Yeah, this video might not age well…. nice jinx Josh
Honestly, I'd love to see Herta in F1 but I don't see it happening. The only way it could happen is if Andretti enters F1. As far as Josh's jinxing goes, he said that Juri Vips would be Red Bull's next F1 driver, and we know what happened there. Then again, we laughed when Josh said that Max Verstappen would become the 2021 world champion, and we know what happened there.
M8 Piastri and De Vries need to be in F1. Those 2 have shown some extreme levels of talent with both being F2 dominators and De Vries winning FE which is not at all starved of talent and Piastri winning F3 with a decent gap.
We all want O'Ward, Piastri, De Vries, Pourchaire, Drugovich and Herta in F1 but that would mean there would have to be 14 teams on the grid and points given to P11, P12, P13 and P14 so we all are hoping for something mathematically impossible
Shame palou doesn’t even have a conversation man can wheel it. But I think f1 probably has 5 out of the 20 best in the world WRC Indycar supercars formila E IMSA and WEC and NASCAR(who had the Best driver last year) all have someone who are worthy of an f1 seat
Expected way more content on Logan Sargeant TBH. Guy took the F3 version of a Minardi to the winner's circle. He doesn't have the backing or family recognition Colton does but has really earned respect on the track (also beating his veteran teammate in his rookie year too)
as an American: 1) the sport is definitely here to stay, although a lot of growth can still happen. A LOT of growth. I've been called a redneck for liking f1 because everyone here still equates it to NASCAR culture. 2) an american driver would be worshipped by the COTA crowd. 3) both of NYs football teams are in New Jersey. I can't not mention that lol
As an American, I wouldn't get too excited yet. I'm an old fart, so I've seen heard this song before. It seems every 10-15 years, F1 has a brief spurt of popularity in the US and we hear "Formula One is finally grabbing hold in America". it lasts for maybe a year or two. Last time it was when the USGP started its brief career at Indianapolis. We all know how that ended. I heard it in the 70's, the 80's, the 90's, the 00's. Not in the 10's, when there wasn't even a thought of the US having any interest in F1 (or vice versa). Now it's started up again. Maybe this time it lasts. Who knows?
@@toad6417 Back in the late 60's & early 70's, Formula One was very big in the US. Jackie Stewart was as famous as any driver in any American race series. and there was Watkins Glen, which drew the biggest crowds in F1, and American drivers who got good results like Andretti & Peter Revson. When Revson & Donohue were killed, one right after the other, that was pretty much the end of the US in F1. especially Donohue, because without him, Penske dropped his F1 team. Then Bernie took over and drove all Americans out of Formula One for 30 years. Not to say F1 was on TV much in the 70's, but neither was IndyCar or NASCAR. All three would occasionally turn up on ABC's Wide World of Sports or the CBS Sports Spectacular. the only race that was shown flag-to-flag was the Indy 500, and even that was shown on tape delay, until 1985.
@@saber-san6270 Absolutely, but people don't know the first thing about f1, so they just assume all racing appeals to the same crowd. I think it indicated how far f1 still has to go in america if plenty of people assume both series are the same
Herta and O'Ward have the huge natural talent and bravery of Villeneuve and Montoya imo... But they haven't put it all together yet. JV and JPM absolutely bossed CART in it's heyday, against some formidable rivals. They won championships, Indy 500's and had dominant, spectacular individual races. In comparison Herta and O'Ward just don't stack up... at least not yet. If they want a strong shot in F1 with a quality team, they have to replicate Villeneuve and Montoya.
Considering he's made a multitude of massive mistakes costing him wins in IndyCar... I'm saying no. I don't think he's good enough. Go on, Colton. Prove me wrong.
It's hard to be a Herta fan right now. I adore watching him carve through the field, but he makes too many mistakes, whether that be wasting his push to pass, or crashing out in a desperate bid to get the win. But, man when he's on his A-game, I genuinely think he's one of the best racing drivers alive right now.
I attended the Music City GP last year in Nashville. I’m completely sold on Herta, he was crushing it the whole weekend (err, until he hit the wall…) Save for the crash he looked pretty much unstoppable. The weekend would’ve been his for sure if the race wasn’t such a disaster all around-so many safety cars that there was no way to nail a proper strategy down lol.
indycar racing is miles better than f1. indycar is a spec series with a lineup of amazing drivers. f1 is an extremely expensive engineering war with extremely rich kids getting drives and true talent being snuffed out by bad machinery. I love F1 but im not delusional into thinking its the “pinnacle of racing”
honestly he needs to show more consistency and be a championship threat this year, and he's running out of time to do so. also Andretti now has Kirkwood so Colton might need to watch his back.
And that's why Josh is so amazing, he knows the stuff he is talking about, I see a lot of youtubers talking a lot of "inaccurate facts" about him because they never watched an indycar race, I'm far away from a specialist, I started to watch last year, fell in love with it quickly (specially after seeing Hélio Castroneves getting his 4th Indy 500, brasil carai) but at least I can see he has so much raw talent, lot of mistakes that cost a lot of points, but the talent is there, and ow the question: why Mr. New Zealand version of Tommo, the Kiwi bias, hasn't made yet about the greatest driver from his homeland ? Scott Dixon, the Lewis Hamilton equivalent in Indycar, okay he was born in Australia but his nationality is New Zealander
Colton is a brilliant driver- he’s particularly good on road circuits. I was at the IndyCar races at Laguna Seca and Long Beach- two particularly challenging circuits and no one was able to touch him. Same at the Indy GP this year in the wet. Also- Mears tested a Brabham in 1980 at Riverside, right before the Long Beach GP. Bernie Ecclestone was impressed after Mears won the 1979 Indy 500 at only his second attempt, so he invited Mears to test a Brabham at Riverside just before the Long Beach GP. So Mears got on a plane to Los Angeles and drove an hour out to Riverside to test. He was only 2 tenths off Nelson Piquet’s times after, in his own words “I started driving the s*** out of that thing”. Mears impressed so much that Ecclestone tried to enter him in a third car at the Long Beach GP- but for some reason he was not able to. Piquet dominated that race weekend- pole, fastest lap and the win. Imagine if Mears had raced at Long Beach… he would have given Piquet a real run for his money.
The FIA restrcting Formula 1 to only 10 teams is really stupid and unhealthy for young drivers. With the current Concorde agreement I doubt we ever see them unless they buy Alfa Romeo.
It's funny that how you describe Colton on this video is exactly the opposite of the type of driver his father was. Bryan was excellent technically, very careful, didn't crash and finished races. Some observers thought he wasn't aggressive enough. Chip Ganassi fired him and he and Mo Nunn even questioned his courage (using the euphemism "lack of commitment"). If Bryan could instill some of his own driving personality into Colton, and Colton could combine the two approaches, he would be winning championships. BTW, Bryan also won a couple of races in the IRL, showing more versatility he is given credit for, by winning both on the short oval at Kansas and on the superspeedway at Michigan, and by the time he was in the IRL, all the big teams had come over from CART (he was driving for Andretti), so there's no reason not to give him credit for these. Also BTW, if F1 was really interested in the BEST American driver, they'd try to sign up Kyle Larson. Would never happen, but he is the best by far.
FYI. The Honda engine doesn’t suck, it’s just that the Chevy and Honda are soooo close. Go look at lap times of any race or quali. That being said, Colton is the perfect American to go F1. Book it
Logan Sargeant is p4 in f2 in his rookie year, I think he could replace Albon after next year with Albon going to another team, perhaps AlphaTauri, Aston or even mclaren
Would love to see a video of Marcus Ericsson on this channel! Some of his best performances in F1 got ruined by bad pitstops or reliabilityissues. Biased opinion! 😁
Not a Herta fan but he is always rapid on track. He can take it to anyone when he is driving well, but he pushes too hard sometimes. Reminds me of a young Verstappen when he first joined Red Bull.
What F1 NEEDS is the 21st and 22nd team and NO Colton won't be going to F1 anytime soon, He has more to achive in IndyCar, like a win run, the 500, the overall championship. I want Andretti on the grid of F1 and a 23rd and 24th team to build up the grid like it was in the 90's 00's. I think Colton will achive more in IndyCar than in F1.
Please make a video on Jüri Vips and the options he still has to get to F1 after getting kicked out of Redbull academy because I think it was a little bit harsh to get kicked out considering what Max has said.
Don't think any other team would pick him as it brings trouble Red Bull was his only chance and it's gone Also the grid looked set until 2025 except for the Alpha tauri seat
i mean almost any top teir indy driver would be competitive in F1. if they had a competitive seat. but why bother switching? indy racing is better in almost every way to F1. cheaper, more exciting, way more even ...
Took a bit of a while to get around to the answer that everyone already knows: No. I mean, technically he can already get a Super Licence if he completes *eight* free practice sessions, but I highly doubt he's going to get that many opportunities, no matter how hard Zak tries to get them for him. Pato is in a much better position to potentially move over (if he stays 4th in the points this year, that's the SL points secured), and can more easily bring backing and even more Mexican hype if needed. Colton... doesn't exactly have that.
That Herta save earlier this year was the first time I watched IndyCar (put it on to watch Pato because us Irish don’t have much rep recently) and just that move made me a fan
I think something working for Herta is his youth. He’s only 22 so if he can get into an F1 car he has plenty of time to adjust. That might be part of where the hype comes from
So I guess now, according to the least accurate news source ever, Helmut Marko, we'll see what the FIA says about potentially granting Colton Herta a super license so he can race for Alpha Tauri.
He reminds me of Max Verstappen. Getting into the big game too early, but with enough skill to outclass the best of the sport on a good day and on a bad day crashing out due to their lack of experience.
Verstappen didnt crash out that much, sure he was way too agressive and sure he got tangled up a bit, but hes not even close to the amount colton has binned it.
I’m so confused by this whole Herta to F1 story. Colton has not shown top 5 conversation in Indy let alone 20 in F1. He is rash, equip privileged and minimal results to show for it and no I’m NOT being political. I don’t know how Palou or Erickson are skipped over in this conversation. I like Herta, he is fast as hell and bold but doesn’t transition to wins.
What about O Ward??? McLaren seems to have let him fallen although he is ranked far above Herta but he no longer gets any attention. Herta is definitely no exceptional talent of century. Disrespectful behavior of McLaren towards O Ward👎🏻
josh, if you can, pay attention to a driver named Kyle Kirkwood, of Jupiter Florida. He is racing for AJ Foyt in Indy Car this year, and will be racing for Andretti next year. The kid has dominated everything he's done in the lower series, and everyone who meets him says that he is just the nicest guy you'd ever meet.
The first step to getting an IndyCar driver into F1 is the way Superlicense points are rewarded. The series should be awarded as such. Also, I'm pretty sure F1 is hemming and hawing about Andretti entering F1 because they don't want to Americanize the sport *that* much. If Andretti would enter, then Colton would be a sure bet.
@@ey7290 They do give super license points for Indycar. Unfortunately they give less than F2 so you really have to be winning championships to get a super license through Indy and Herta is not doing that so far.
@@wingracer1614 Thats absolutely insane that f2 gets more points than Indy. At the very least they should be equal, but the class of the indycar field is miles ahead that of f2's.
@@Jimbo7 Thing is, even if they did award F2 points he might not have enough to get a super license. Not sure, would have to check. The point is that yes he's fast and wins spectacularly on occasion but absolutely sucks at acquiring points.
I absolutely hate the americanisation of the sport, andretti joining is not a part of that problem. Theyre racers. The other teams dont want it for financial reasons.
same with veekay he got the speed in a lesser team but he is so inconsistent !!! i hope him op pato will come to F1 (although pato is not an american but mexican i believe ?
Logan Sargeant is p3 in the f2 championship as a rookie. I don’t follow f2 enough to know if the other drivers are actually really good, but that seems like he’s the closest American to a formula 1 seat
I’ve read an article about him where he said, “formula one is a big ambition of mine.” And if he has the test seat at mclaren then I don’t think it’s unlikely that we’ll see him on the grid.
I really think it’s not a lack of skill. Just American racing culture doesn’t center around f1 thus no one trains for it. It’s changing but no one of driving age has truly grown up wanting to be a f1 driver
Not American, but I can say the best driver of this century who never had a chance in F1 is Scott Dixon. That man can save fuel and tires while still being faster than the rest of the field
I think it is a shame that one of the things being held against Colton is his record at IndyCar in not yet having an Indy championship. Garnering a championship at IndyCar is much more difficult than many think. It is an extremely experienced competitive and competent field of drivers and luck often times plays much into a championship as skill and experience. But Colton has already shown that he can rise to the top in a field of Cutthroat best friend drivers. He may not yet have the consistency for a championship but he has shown that he has the speed and ability. His time is coming no matter where he goes or stays.
I appreciate these videos as I don't know much at all about Indycar - I know the drivers who came over to F1 and who went the other way (mostly) but that's about it.
A moment of silence for Colton, he has now been hit with the josh revell career video curse.
Josh Revell should never make a video about Josh Revell's career if he wants to keep this gig up.
R.I.P Colton Herta's racing career
Juri Vipps💀💀
For real 😭😭😭
Me thinking about Juri Vips 😭😭😭one of my favorite drivers 😢
I wonder how’re you gonna jinx Colton, Josh…
COLTON HERTA UPSIDE DOWN WOW
Colton says the n word
I guess we can now call Colton the American Nico Hulkenburg with the Josh jinx
Then I Hope he stays away from Sargeant and Jak Crawford
Herta took the pole position today for the race tomorrow in Toronto. That means the Josh Jinx will be _spectacular_ tomorrow. I'm thinking all four wheels somehow coming off at the same time during the race.
Needs P3 or better. He’s gotta close out 50 pts right now. Next year by the current ISC, valuable pts are about to expire even adjusted for the extended Covid friendly superlicense tally window.
Hell yeah CY, good to see you're watching videos if not making too many!! Can we expect a return soon?
Yeah he needs a Scott Dixon-esque run of solid points finishes. I always feel watching Herta that he’s either on the edge of greatness or ending up in the barrier.
If he doesn't get the points this season, it will be more complicated next year. Until this year can be the best 3 years out of 4. Next year will be only the last 3 seasons.
He has 32, points up to last year. His best chance is this year. Because he can choose points from 3 years out of 4 because the covid. For next year will be only 3 years.
the whole FIA indycar super license requirement rules are so stupid
A maybe slightly odd comparison but I see Herta as very similar to McRae. Absolutely untouchable on a good day and then visiting the scenery on the rest
I am absolutely looking forward to a Colton Herta Motorsport game in like 2043 now, though.
i made that same comparison myself, if in doubt go flat out.
lol I agree.
Great comparaison.
Alex!!!
*1 week later*
"Colton Herta decides against F1 as he commits his future to IndyCar."
Wouldn’t be surprised considering how many times this guy has jinxed people
*cough cough* LECLERC *cough cough*
@@spiderbhyd3 Leclerc, Ticktum, Vips, possibly Sainz who’s gonna be next on the the stage to get cursed
And probobly it will be for the best - at least in IndyCar his immense talent is recognized and could become a legend there like say Scott Dixon or Will Power. Mind you that Dixon was also offered a F1 seat in the 00's, but declined. Will Power had also tested in a F1 car.
He wont decide that, his boss will do it.
Is the same for pato, zak wants retain pato o'ward in indycar bc drives well for the team and is a good character in the sport.
They will do the same to Colton Herta soon sincethe idea of bring Andretti to F1 is dead until 2026.
In that time we will have a better drivers as options.
He doesn't have enough superlicense points so he is not going to F1.
I now have to pray to all I hold holy that Josh hasn’t jinxed my boy Colton
He has. You have been hit with the Kiwi curse. I’m very sorry for your loss.
He ain’t getting to F1
Liam is probably already asking if he could play cod with him
Throw in a few sacrifices to a few things you hold unholy to cover all the supernatural bases.
Alright, it's gonna be Sargeant or Crawford, understood.
Waiting for Sargeant and Crawford video
I’d say Logan has the best chance just cause he’s performing pretty good in F2 right now and I’d bet F1 teams prefer F2 success more than they do F3 or Indy car success
@@skyrimld1159 he is performing more than good in F2
If he keeps performing like he is he can be in the championship hunt
Thanks to the penalties Sargeant won his second feature race in a row this weekend and is now second in F2 points for the season. I think Herta is a really good driver but if I was an F1 team looking for an America driver I'd be paying more attention to Sargeant than Herta.
I’m fine with Sargeant don’t know much about Crawford
Oh man, Colton's gonna go far and there's gonna be a US F1 driver and he'll w-... oh, Josh just did a video on him.
Nevermind.
**Driver proceeds to say the N-word on stream and gets his career ruined**
F1 is international, the teams use the driver for PR, all part of the huge responsibility for drivers.
RIP to Colton’s career 💀
POV: u come here after he was linked to Alphatauri to check if he is any good
Now I am sure that Logan will be the next american in F1... I honestly hope for it.
Yea Logan Is definitely a talent we need to look into like Piastri, Pourchaire, and De Vries.
@@hlanguhome7905 De Vries??? Pff c'mon bro and Pourchaire is getting smashed by Drugovich who already showed to be cold under pressure,good at managing tyres and stellar fast when he's in front...
@@henry247 hyping all up after 3 wins this year is mad. Drugovich has bad to worst racing records compared to the top racing contigents of f2. His chances are slim to none.
@@henry247 I mean, Drugovich is in his third season, and realistically speaking, he should have beaten Zhou last season ( and bear in mind that was when he was actually at a top team), yet the guy couldn't even snag a win last season.
He's literally turning out almost like De Vries did in F2, while we've got Pourchaire just behind him; following him and Daruvala still are two strong rookies in Sargeant and Hauger. Anything can still happen imo though.
*Now here's the long read*
It doesn't help Drugovich that he's not in an academy. Not to mention pretty much all of them already have some focus on other Juniors:
Williams have Sargeant (and Nissany, but he's never getting near a race seat tbh).
Sauber have Pourchaire.
Even with Vips gone, Red Bull still have four Juniors in F2 alone this year (but Tsunoda looks like he'll retain his seat and Gasly is already staying on for 2023)
Even if he's not racing, Ferrari still have Shwartzman (someone who has shown much more potential than Drugovich) as their test driver this year, and with his newly acquired Israeli license could be a wildcard option to replace Mick at Haas. They also have A. Leclerc, Bearman, and Camara (A Brazilian too) in the lower ranks doing well.
Mercedes have Vesti (and also their own superstar in the lower ranks in Kimi Antonelli, go search up that kid)
And Alpine have Doohan, not to mention their superstar in Piastri.
Any other team not mentioned are simply locked in already and won't risk a rookie.
Talent and/or budget are often seen as all that's needed to get to F1, but timing is also significant too. And matter of fact is, it's looking like Drugovich is a little too late to the party.
In my opinion (feel free to dispute it), if he even wants a chance at an F1 seat, he'll have to dominate the F2 championship to the end, maybe even more than De Vries did. Not impossible, sure, but once Prema and Carlin fully come into force will he still be unstoppable?
Jak Crawford
I personally think Pato would be first in line for a drive at McLaren before Herta if I'm being honest, Pato is already in the McLaren family and whilst he has a new Indy contract there wouldn't be a problem releasing him from that contract and into a McLaren F1 drive, and plus that relationship with Zak is already there. Herta's best bet is if Andretti's bid to have a team in F1 succeeds, though I do agree he deserves a chance in F1.
I’m guessing it would come down to whoever brings more $$$
It would be dollars. Also pato and colton is not that much efficient to make wave in f1 as like the current rapid and experienced f2 drivers..
As a Mexican American, even if Pato is an Irish white by blood, he’s still disadvantaged by being Mexican. I think McLaren would go with the American for the media advantage. They’ll become the team new Americans root for over Haas. Both deserve the drive, but I don’t think Pato will get the offer first. His best chance with McLaren F1 is Colton going to Andretti F1
However i don't think Pato would necessarily want to go to F1. Don't get me wrong he could challenge for a title in the right equipment, but its a high risk going from a secure championship-caliber team in IndyCar to a upper midfield team in F1 without any chance of actually having a shot at winning anything but a lucky race win. Plus it could kill his confidence.
@@rodolfo6093 what if pato races as an american
In all seriousness though, to give you an idea on how close IndyCar really is, Grosjean has done well since doing a limited schedule last year. Despite that limited schedule, he still nearly scored as many points as IndyCar's 2021 rookie of the year Scott McLaughlin, a New Zealand driver who was previously a dominate force in the Supercars Championship in Australia. Grosjean pointed out how nobody eyed the experience difference between the two, where Grosjean had nearly 20 years of open-wheel experience compared to McLaughlin's one year.
At the first race of 2022, McLaughlin proceeded to clean the field's clock in a dominating win at St. Petersburg, therefore getting an IndyCar win before Grosjean.
So yeah. Watch more IndyCar. That way, there may be less;
F1 fans: [Watches one IndyCar race]
F1 fans: "Ericsson won?! *THIS SERIES SUCKS!!"*
O'Ward, Palou, Dixon, Newgarden, Ericsson, McLaughlin, Herta, Power... Indycar is stacked
If you'ce watched this season Colton has choked many times. especially at Long Beach and just missing his breaking point.
Has Grosjean won any race yet?
I mean, Ericsson was up against some tough competition in sauber, he was also quite heavy and ran most of his career without any water during the races.
Some are even speculating that charles got some “tips” from ferrari, which is quite clear actually, when you look at Abu Dhabi 2018 quali, where the only point on track where he was faster was the first sector, which is basically just made up of three straights.
grosjean deserved that long beach win and looks really good this season, just inconsistent
Josh: “Is Colton Herta the next Formula 1 driver?”
Logan Sargeant: *gets pole at Silverstone, wins at Silverstone, now 3rd in Formula 2 standing in his rookie season*
Yeah, this video might not age well…. nice jinx Josh
Honestly, I'd love to see Herta in F1 but I don't see it happening. The only way it could happen is if Andretti enters F1.
As far as Josh's jinxing goes, he said that Juri Vips would be Red Bull's next F1 driver, and we know what happened there. Then again, we laughed when Josh said that Max Verstappen would become the 2021 world champion, and we know what happened there.
because josh revell in 2021 was different...2022 is completely different gravy
He has got to get more consistent in IndyCar though
I want Colton to get to F1 but I think we also need to get Pato O’Ward a seat
M8 Piastri and De Vries need to be in F1. Those 2 have shown some extreme levels of talent with both being F2 dominators and De Vries winning FE which is not at all starved of talent and Piastri winning F3 with a decent gap.
We all want O'Ward, Piastri, De Vries, Pourchaire, Drugovich and Herta in F1 but that would mean there would have to be 14 teams on the grid and points given to P11, P12, P13 and P14 so we all are hoping for something mathematically impossible
In a perfect world, Pato would go to McLaren and Andretti gets a team with Colton Herta and another American driver.
At this time, Pato is the only Indy driver possiby F1 ready.
Shame palou doesn’t even have a conversation man can wheel it. But I think f1 probably has 5 out of the 20 best in the world WRC Indycar supercars formila E IMSA and WEC and NASCAR(who had the Best driver last year) all have someone who are worthy of an f1 seat
Expected way more content on Logan Sargeant TBH. Guy took the F3 version of a Minardi to the winner's circle. He doesn't have the backing or family recognition Colton does but has really earned respect on the track (also beating his veteran teammate in his rookie year too)
as an American: 1) the sport is definitely here to stay, although a lot of growth can still happen. A LOT of growth. I've been called a redneck for liking f1 because everyone here still equates it to NASCAR culture. 2) an american driver would be worshipped by the COTA crowd. 3) both of NYs football teams are in New Jersey. I can't not mention that lol
As an American, I wouldn't get too excited yet. I'm an old fart, so I've seen heard this song before. It seems every 10-15 years, F1 has a brief spurt of popularity in the US and we hear "Formula One is finally grabbing hold in America". it lasts for maybe a year or two. Last time it was when the USGP started its brief career at Indianapolis. We all know how that ended. I heard it in the 70's, the 80's, the 90's, the 00's. Not in the 10's, when there wasn't even a thought of the US having any interest in F1 (or vice versa). Now it's started up again. Maybe this time it lasts. Who knows?
@@RRaquello That's interesting, I didn't know it has previously gained real interest. Let's hope!
> NASCAR
Isn't Formula 1 more luxurious than NASCAR?
@@toad6417 Back in the late 60's & early 70's, Formula One was very big in the US. Jackie Stewart was as famous as any driver in any American race series. and there was Watkins Glen, which drew the biggest crowds in F1, and American drivers who got good results like Andretti & Peter Revson. When Revson & Donohue were killed, one right after the other, that was pretty much the end of the US in F1. especially Donohue, because without him, Penske dropped his F1 team. Then Bernie took over and drove all Americans out of Formula One for 30 years. Not to say F1 was on TV much in the 70's, but neither was IndyCar or NASCAR. All three would occasionally turn up on ABC's Wide World of Sports or the CBS Sports Spectacular. the only race that was shown flag-to-flag was the Indy 500, and even that was shown on tape delay, until 1985.
@@saber-san6270 Absolutely, but people don't know the first thing about f1, so they just assume all racing appeals to the same crowd. I think it indicated how far f1 still has to go in america if plenty of people assume both series are the same
Welp Colton is next on the chopping block let us all pray for him now 🙏
I was at the 2022 Indy gp and I was shocked when he saved it. He then waved at me from the top of the podium which was so freaking cool.
Are we forgetting about Logan Sargeant. That dude is pretty damn good too.
The Moment the Video Released, Logan Sargeant Wins F2 Feature Races and is on course to replace Latifi
He has to bring big cash to drive at Williams.
Coming back here before he gets signed by Alpha Tauri
I personally would love more to see pato in that mclaren if they would've released daniel
Herta and O'Ward have the huge natural talent and bravery of Villeneuve and Montoya imo... But they haven't put it all together yet. JV and JPM absolutely bossed CART in it's heyday, against some formidable rivals. They won championships, Indy 500's and had dominant, spectacular individual races. In comparison Herta and O'Ward just don't stack up... at least not yet. If they want a strong shot in F1 with a quality team, they have to replicate Villeneuve and Montoya.
Seems to be aging like fine milk
Especially considering they won't give him an exception for a super license.
No way! Thanks for the mention!
Considering he's made a multitude of massive mistakes costing him wins in IndyCar... I'm saying no. I don't think he's good enough.
Go on, Colton. Prove me wrong.
It's hard to be a Herta fan right now. I adore watching him carve through the field, but he makes too many mistakes, whether that be wasting his push to pass, or crashing out in a desperate bid to get the win. But, man when he's on his A-game, I genuinely think he's one of the best racing drivers alive right now.
I attended the Music City GP last year in Nashville. I’m completely sold on Herta, he was crushing it the whole weekend (err, until he hit the wall…)
Save for the crash he looked pretty much unstoppable. The weekend would’ve been his for sure if the race wasn’t such a disaster all around-so many safety cars that there was no way to nail a proper strategy down lol.
Yeah, a crash is a big sell for F1. Maybe Hass would be interested.
2 weeks from now
"Colton Herta, Indycar driver has been found to have murdered 27 baby puppys"
Logan Sargeant has been on an absolute tear since this video came out. The Josh Revell curse lives on lol
Well for once, Josh didnt curse a driver by mentioning their name
Congratulations on your F1 seat, Col... wait Seargent got it? Eh close enough
Why do all of these videos age so poorly.
indycar racing is miles better than f1. indycar is a spec series with a lineup of amazing drivers. f1 is an extremely expensive engineering war with extremely rich kids getting drives and true talent being snuffed out by bad machinery. I love F1 but im not delusional into thinking its the “pinnacle of racing”
honestly he needs to show more consistency and be a championship threat this year, and he's running out of time to do so. also Andretti now has Kirkwood so Colton might need to watch his back.
Guys he's still gonna be in f1, andretti was approved to be a team in 2026 and herta's gonna be on the team!
And that's why Josh is so amazing, he knows the stuff he is talking about, I see a lot of youtubers talking a lot of "inaccurate facts" about him because they never watched an indycar race, I'm far away from a specialist, I started to watch last year, fell in love with it quickly (specially after seeing Hélio Castroneves getting his 4th Indy 500, brasil carai) but at least I can see he has so much raw talent, lot of mistakes that cost a lot of points, but the talent is there, and ow the question:
why Mr. New Zealand version of Tommo, the Kiwi bias, hasn't made yet about the greatest driver from his homeland ? Scott Dixon, the Lewis Hamilton equivalent in Indycar, okay he was born in Australia but his nationality is New Zealander
I'll be the next f1 driver if somebody gives me millions of dollars, coaches, transportation, sponsorships, and emotional support.
RIP Colton's career
Colton is a brilliant driver- he’s particularly good on road circuits. I was at the IndyCar races at Laguna Seca and Long Beach- two particularly challenging circuits and no one was able to touch him. Same at the Indy GP this year in the wet.
Also- Mears tested a Brabham in 1980 at Riverside, right before the Long Beach GP. Bernie Ecclestone was impressed after Mears won the 1979 Indy 500 at only his second attempt, so he invited Mears to test a Brabham at Riverside just before the Long Beach GP. So Mears got on a plane to Los Angeles and drove an hour out to Riverside to test. He was only 2 tenths off Nelson Piquet’s times after, in his own words “I started driving the s*** out of that thing”. Mears impressed so much that Ecclestone tried to enter him in a third car at the Long Beach GP- but for some reason he was not able to. Piquet dominated that race weekend- pole, fastest lap and the win. Imagine if Mears had raced at Long Beach… he would have given Piquet a real run for his money.
I could only imagine that if Andretti was allowed into Formula 1, Colton would be coming with them.
The FIA restrcting Formula 1 to only 10 teams is really stupid and unhealthy for young drivers. With the current Concorde agreement I doubt we ever see them unless they buy Alfa Romeo.
Never happen, not deep enough pockets.
Do one of Logan Sargeant. He’s finally coming to his own in F2
Finally somebody recognizing that Newgarden should have got a shot at F1 😌
It's funny that how you describe Colton on this video is exactly the opposite of the type of driver his father was. Bryan was excellent technically, very careful, didn't crash and finished races. Some observers thought he wasn't aggressive enough. Chip Ganassi fired him and he and Mo Nunn even questioned his courage (using the euphemism "lack of commitment"). If Bryan could instill some of his own driving personality into Colton, and Colton could combine the two approaches, he would be winning championships. BTW, Bryan also won a couple of races in the IRL, showing more versatility he is given credit for, by winning both on the short oval at Kansas and on the superspeedway at Michigan, and by the time he was in the IRL, all the big teams had come over from CART (he was driving for Andretti), so there's no reason not to give him credit for these.
Also BTW, if F1 was really interested in the BEST American driver, they'd try to sign up Kyle Larson. Would never happen, but he is the best by far.
I'll come back in a year to see how this video ages
FYI. The Honda engine doesn’t suck, it’s just that the Chevy and Honda are soooo close. Go look at lap times of any race or quali. That being said, Colton is the perfect American to go F1. Book it
Good! So Pato will got to McLaren then :)
Is the curse broken....?
Lol nvm i forgot how this ended
Logan Sargeant is p4 in f2 in his rookie year, I think he could replace Albon after next year with Albon going to another team, perhaps AlphaTauri, Aston or even mclaren
This aged well
And the Josh Revell career video curse strikes again
I think Logan Sargeant and Jak Crawford but who knows 🤷♂️
You must really hate this guy Josh to make a video on him
Poor lad, his faith is set now...
Would love to see a video of Marcus Ericsson on this channel! Some of his best performances in F1 got ruined by bad pitstops or reliabilityissues. Biased opinion! 😁
Nope, mostly his fault, an agresive and dirty driver.
Not until he can finish consistently in the top 5, his main problem is that he’s too inconsistent with him wrecking on unforced errors
Even more jinx vids
Not a Herta fan but he is always rapid on track. He can take it to anyone when he is driving well, but he pushes too hard sometimes. Reminds me of a young Verstappen when he first joined Red Bull.
In before Herta bottles it from the lead again this weekend because of this
What F1 NEEDS is the 21st and 22nd team and NO Colton won't be going to F1 anytime soon, He has more to achive in IndyCar, like a win run, the 500, the overall championship.
I want Andretti on the grid of F1 and a 23rd and 24th team to build up the grid like it was in the 90's 00's.
I think Colton will achive more in IndyCar than in F1.
Please make a video on Jüri Vips and the options he still has to get to F1 after getting kicked out of Redbull academy because I think it was a little bit harsh to get kicked out considering what Max has said.
What said Max?
@@ashokathegreat4534 I think it was when he called ocon a mongoloid or sommat
@@ashokathegreat4534 He called Ocon and a steward Mongolians. It was so bad that even the Mongolian government issued a statement about firing Max.
Don't think any other team would pick him as it brings trouble
Red Bull was his only chance and it's gone
Also the grid looked set until 2025 except for the Alpha tauri seat
Right now Vips isn't consistent enough to warrant attention from F1 teams.
i mean almost any top teir indy driver would be competitive in F1. if they had a competitive seat. but why bother switching? indy racing is better in almost every way to F1. cheaper, more exciting, way more even ...
Ricciardo: *sweats intensely*
Took a bit of a while to get around to the answer that everyone already knows: No.
I mean, technically he can already get a Super Licence if he completes *eight* free practice sessions, but I highly doubt he's going to get that many opportunities, no matter how hard Zak tries to get them for him.
Pato is in a much better position to potentially move over (if he stays 4th in the points this year, that's the SL points secured), and can more easily bring backing and even more Mexican hype if needed. Colton... doesn't exactly have that.
My hope is for Andretti to get his team so Colton can go to Andretti F1 and Pato can go to McLaren.
Well, Colton will be missed.
That Herta save earlier this year was the first time I watched IndyCar (put it on to watch Pato because us Irish don’t have much rep recently) and just that move made me a fan
I think something working for Herta is his youth. He’s only 22 so if he can get into an F1 car he has plenty of time to adjust. That might be part of where the hype comes from
That is middle aged in F1 terms. They start at age 5 or so.
So I guess now, according to the least accurate news source ever, Helmut Marko, we'll see what the FIA says about potentially granting Colton Herta a super license so he can race for Alpha Tauri.
Can't wait to know how well aged this one
Come back in 2024 to find out
Never happen. For so many reasons. So many. And Scott speed? We don't speak that name...not ever Josh. Ever...don't think it...don't say...
He reminds me of Max Verstappen. Getting into the big game too early, but with enough skill to outclass the best of the sport on a good day and on a bad day crashing out due to their lack of experience.
Verstappen didnt crash out that much, sure he was way too agressive and sure he got tangled up a bit, but hes not even close to the amount colton has binned it.
I’m so confused by this whole Herta to F1 story. Colton has not shown top 5 conversation in Indy let alone 20 in F1. He is rash, equip privileged and minimal results to show for it and no I’m NOT being political. I don’t know how Palou or Erickson are skipped over in this conversation. I like Herta, he is fast as hell and bold but doesn’t transition to wins.
What about O Ward??? McLaren seems to have let him fallen although he is ranked far above Herta but he no longer gets any attention. Herta is definitely no exceptional talent of century. Disrespectful behavior of McLaren towards O Ward👎🏻
josh, if you can, pay attention to a driver named Kyle Kirkwood, of Jupiter Florida. He is racing for AJ Foyt in Indy Car this year, and will be racing for Andretti next year. The kid has dominated everything he's done in the lower series, and everyone who meets him says that he is just the nicest guy you'd ever meet.
The first step to getting an IndyCar driver into F1 is the way Superlicense points are rewarded. The series should be awarded as such. Also, I'm pretty sure F1 is hemming and hawing about Andretti entering F1 because they don't want to Americanize the sport *that* much. If Andretti would enter, then Colton would be a sure bet.
More difficult than you think to get that as Indycar isn't an FIA sanctioned sport
@@ey7290 They do give super license points for Indycar. Unfortunately they give less than F2 so you really have to be winning championships to get a super license through Indy and Herta is not doing that so far.
@@wingracer1614 Thats absolutely insane that f2 gets more points than Indy. At the very least they should be equal, but the class of the indycar field is miles ahead that of f2's.
@@Jimbo7 Thing is, even if they did award F2 points he might not have enough to get a super license. Not sure, would have to check. The point is that yes he's fast and wins spectacularly on occasion but absolutely sucks at acquiring points.
I absolutely hate the americanisation of the sport, andretti joining is not a part of that problem. Theyre racers. The other teams dont want it for financial reasons.
there are quite some Indycar drivers who had deserved an F1 career,... like Dixon, Power, Newgarden... Colton has to be more consistent first
Yes. As much as I love Ricciardo he needs to go.
He’d fit right in over here in Indy car.
@@Deevy8_ Yes. Maybe Dani could take his Indycar seat
same with veekay he got the speed in a lesser team but he is so inconsistent !!! i hope him op pato will come to F1 (although pato is not an american but mexican i believe ?
and with Vips getting the axe ...who knows if there'll be space in F1 :P ...reat video Josh(as always)!
Colton, Logan, and Zach are 3 drivers that have a chance of competing for Andretti if and when they enter F1.
And they will be cool
Nearly 10s slower than fastest team
Don't count out Ugo Ugochukwu either. Although thing is he's already in McLaren's Academy ...
Logan Sargeant is p3 in the f2 championship as a rookie. I don’t follow f2 enough to know if the other drivers are actually really good, but that seems like he’s the closest American to a formula 1 seat
I’ve read an article about him where he said, “formula one is a big ambition of mine.” And if he has the test seat at mclaren then I don’t think it’s unlikely that we’ll see him on the grid.
Refresh your sentence composure skills.
No. F1 needs more African and Eastern European drivers. America needs American drivers. That's different.
I really think it’s not a lack of skill. Just American racing culture doesn’t center around f1 thus no one trains for it.
It’s changing but no one of driving age has truly grown up wanting to be a f1 driver
Not American, but I can say the best driver of this century who never had a chance in F1 is Scott Dixon. That man can save fuel and tires while still being faster than the rest of the field
Ngl I think Joseph Newgerden is the best American driver right now and deserves an opportunity more than anybody else
3 months later... the super license saga.
Guess the "Josh Jinx" is a scientific fact now....
I think it is a shame that one of the things being held against Colton is his record at IndyCar in not yet having an Indy championship. Garnering a championship at IndyCar is much more difficult than many think. It is an extremely experienced competitive and competent field of drivers and luck often times plays much into a championship as skill and experience. But Colton has already shown that he can rise to the top in a field of Cutthroat best friend drivers. He may not yet have the consistency for a championship but he has shown that he has the speed and ability. His time is coming no matter where he goes or stays.
Aren't Perez, Stroll and Latifi already coming from North America? 😉
I appreciate these videos as I don't know much at all about Indycar - I know the drivers who came over to F1 and who went the other way (mostly) but that's about it.
Now he's gonna get the curse, thanks Josh
Now the end of 2023, it was actually Logan Seargent
Will Never. Here comes Alpha Tauri. 🤞🏾
I think the next American F1 driver will be Logan Sargeant.
I mean shit if y’all want an American driver so bad fucking hire me lol
To be fair, the honda engine also has a home in Marcus’ car, so you can’t really blame that.
No way Jose .. doesn’t have temperament, proper license or experience. 🐻
Colton's good but he chokes too much tbh. Logan Sargent will end up getting the nod over him.