Joe Rogan is smart enough to know the difference between apples and oranges. If you allow oranges to speak for apples, truly, will not get the genuine result. Let the real apples come and speak for themselves. Godspeed the right.
Joe Rogan, who calls "Mormons" the nicest and most charitable people knows, will take guests who talk crap about the faith, but will never have an actual nember on his show
@@irietheace1199 it's been a while since I watched it, but when I did, I did not see any thing in there that was false. It was all backed up and documented by LDS own writings. Can you name the things that are false?
The closest may be "don't rely on a bunch of misinformation you find online, which is posted by people who are bitter and hateful towards the church for a variety of reasons". That, I can see church leaders saying. And also possibly "don't get so bogged down in the minutia of people's THEORIES about the gospel, and things which might be true but which have not yet been revealed. concentrate on things that actually have been revealed". But yeah, there's no way they would ever say "don't look things up". The church actively promotes scholarship and gaining as much knowledge as possible, about everything, including and especially about the church itself.
hes rather uninformed so his take isnt better than misinformation... the real reason theyre so nice is because THEY FULLY BELIEVE ALL ARE BROTHERS AND SISTERS and God sent His Son for all who will be saved and if you dont get it now therell be other chances before Final Judgement... no pressure
@@president234, really? Where is this mention of points ever presented? Or could it be that we seek to become more like the Father so we will recognize Him when we meet Him because we will be like Him?
@Charistoph No, it's to gain favor in heaven. You can even see that to get in the highest part of heaven is based on merit. I don't know why you deny this
@@president234, Care to demonstrate where this is actually presented by any of the modern prophets of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints? I doubt it because you have already failed once to prove it. All you've done is accuse, and it was a faithless accusation at that.
@Charistoph Easy. It's in D&C 76. The church continues to teach this. In the article titles "Kingdoms of Glory" the church says this of the celestial kingdom, "This should be your goal: to inherit celestial glory and to help others receive that great blessing as well. Such a goal is not achieved in one attempt; it is the result of a lifetime of righteousness and constancy of purpose." So the church agrees with me and not with you.
I wonder how many other things are incorrect on this podcast. I liked listening to him all this time because I thought he researched and we were getting accurate info with informed guest-but I guess not.
@kehaulani8892 WROTE: "I thought he researched and we were getting accurate info with informed guest-but I guess not." what's not accurate about what Wes said?
@@rickdavis2235 I do like Wes’ story of why instead of joining the police force he chose to study the Bible to defend against criticisms about his belief in Jesus. I also appreciate how he pointed out historical findings and studies which corresponded to things in the Bible or the teachings of Jesus. He shared many insightful things. However, his comments about the beliefs of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are inaccurate. One of the many things that stand out to me is regarding The Bible- He said that we don’t use the Bible- I’ve read/studied the Bible from Old Testament to New Testament with intention at least 10 times and I reference it constantly and believe in the Bible. The Article of Faith he misquoted actually states :We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly. We also believe The Book of Mormon to be the word of God. We use the King James Version of the Bible. If one is a scholar of theology at least get things accurate. Criticism is one thing but it at least should be based on accurate information.
He's stated things either inaccurately or in far more dogmatic fashion than they are actually written for the mormon. Still - just look at the underlying beliefs: 1. When you have children, you bring a soul into physical existence 2. We are all children of God in the actual physical sense 3. God has a body - which isn't a very wild claim considering Jesus said he is exactly as his Father and the bodily resurrection of Christ is the crowning truth claim of christianity. 4. There is hierarchy of governing planets acting on the various movement and forces of celestial planets/matter 5. The children of God will continue the creative work of planet making in some phase of eternity. (there is no teaching claiming we're getting our "own" planets btw) Again, not sure what anyone makes of the christian ontological musings of "enter into my joy and sit down on my throne." Just unsure what you'd think God is trying to offer us with that or the injunction to be perfect as our Father in heaven is perfect. Boy - yeah - I'm sure you all have a lot more rational explanations of eschatology.
@@MrChelcy1 Nobody has every presumed to know with anywhere near that level of detail what it looks like to inherit a mansion in our Father's house. First I think more people would need to be interested in making our current planet significantly better. I think God will send us a memo when that's adequately achieved and let us know what next steps look like. In short though - no, there are no canonical teachings whatsoever about anyone getting their own planet. Not a word from Joseph Smith to that effect. Maybe some comments from a speculative scholar or even church leader. Those hold no water - although you try speculating about what exactly we'll be doing in a billion years from now and see if your ideas sound any better. It's a useless speculation. It's a harmful speculation given the condition of our current planet.
@MrChelcy1 you keep spamming this like it's some gotcha question lol - no where in the Book of Mormon does a prophet teach you get your "own planet". Sounds like you are confusing the fact that our Heavenly Father, who loves us like a father, gives us eternal knowledge and progression (you can learn and grow a lot in ETERNITY)
@@daretobeamormon a more accurate undocumented explanation of Mormonism can be seen by watching the South Park episode of it which is actually a documentary as well. Check it out and if you find anything false in that that cannot be documented by official Mormon church doctrine and writings, let me know I will be certainly surprised. I studied Mormonism quite well and used to have all the copies of their church doctrine.
@@sarahpeterson8191 just a few references. Obviously not everything that we believe will be in the Bible, since we believe in prophets as they did in the Bible. Modern revelation reveals more, but here are a couple that are in the Bible: God of the spirits of all flesh, Num. 16:22 (27:16). all the sons of God shouted for joy, Job 38:7. the spirit shall return unto God who gave it, Eccl. 12:7. Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee, Jer. 1:5.
I’ve visited the religious services of every major religion, as well as 20+ different Christian denominations, and the LDS service is the only one where I’ve heard the leadership say “go find out for yourself if this is true by studying and asking God.” Bro’s got his arrow straight, but the target is behind him.
He’s not wrong though… the LDS faith does believe in a spiritual war, believes we have a pre ordained family, and it is common Mormon knowledge if you get to the celestial kingdom you can become like God. I’m confused as to how Wes is wrong, minus the fact he sounded like he states we have a heavily mother and heavily father which are our parents on earth today, but maybe I misunderstood. Also LDS people do not do research on their own faith unless it comes from the church itself.
well... he is wrong because he isn't completely right. Yes he got the idea of the premortal existence, but he sources it to the King Follet discourse which is wrong, those teaching appeared before that and the discourse is more about eternal progression rather than family. He also attributes a bunch of stuff to the King Follet discourse that are not in it such as Kolob. He also doesn't thoroughly answer the question of a family oriented Latter-Day Saint fully or correctly. If you ask a Latter-day Saint why they are family driven, they are definitely going to point you to the sealing ordinance, about being a family for eternity, other Christian churches say "until death do ye part" in their marriages, the perspective of a Latter-day Saint completely changes as a result of this and this would be considered the true driving force for them to be family oriented, it's not primarily because of the premortal existence. They will point you to the fact the they believe God's commandment to to multiply and replenishes the earth remains in force -- which can be tied to that, but the reality is when you get down to it, it's more they believe God commands them to have children rather than feeling obligated to pull spirits into the world which is not something they are consistently thinking about. They will point you to the family proclamation. The premortal existence doesn't have the sway of these other things, especially the temple ordinances which definitely all existed before the King Follet discourse. A Latter-day Saint simply is not going to be satisfied with this answer. Also, it's their history, I don't understand how you could historically know that faith unless you are studying things like the joseph smith papers (which are peer reviewed in and out of the church, but is officially comes from the church) and the King Follet discourse which was given by a church prophet and taught by the churches universities. Who is more authoritative then them about their own story? I also don't know what he is talking about with the internet stuff I can't find that anywhere, the entire foundation of the church is that a kid questioned the system and the churches around him, followed the bible which told him to ask a question and he did so and recieved an answer. This is exactly what the church constantly invites people to do, of course they are going to tell you to not trust everything you read on the internet, imagine someone getting their factual answers from reddit, and of course an organization is going to push back against criticism because they think they are right. And of course there are people out there who hate the church that you can't trust as far as you throw them either, it's probably a bad idea to read their propoganda, but still important that you study a variety of sources, the church doesn't discourage this as far as I know, but they are going to discourage you from reading people with extremely passionate feelings whose bias is so strong you aren't able to trust what comes out of it.
@@Baggerz182 The first principles of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are faith in Jesus Christ and repentance. Members live by these principles daily. Therefore, your comment must be aimed at Joe Rogan and Wes Huff. I agree with this.
@@president234, "You don't need to go onto the internet." - Never been said. We have been advised to be careful about what is said on the internet, because there is more misinformation than proper information on the internet. This is basic wisdom. What's ironic is how much The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints puts out on to the internet for perusal. "In what Joseph Smith wrote..." - He really didn't write very much. Most of what is written about what he said was written by other people. "...you were born as a spirit child in a previous life..." - Neither Joseph Smith, nor any following prophet, has ever stated how our spirit bodies were created. They could have been "born" the way Adam was "born". We honestly do not know. Any concept of spirit child birth is speculation if not pure invention. In addition, while it was a previous stage of existence, we don't really consider it a "previous life" any more than one would consider pre-college life to be a previous life. "...you are all children of god in a physical sense..." - Not a physical sense. Your parents are your parents in a physical sense. God the Father is the father of our spirits. "...you will be a god on your own planet..." - Joseph Smith never stated this, and this has just been theory and speculation. That being said, Paul has said that we are joint-heirs with Christ (Romans 8). What did Christ inherit? "...Kings Follet funeral discourse..." - King Follet was the man's name, not Kings Follet. This wasn't a discourse but a preaching at the funeral. Also, technically not canonized by the LDS Church as the scribing wasn't done at the time of presentation, but later written down after the fact. So take the writings with a grain of salt. "...circled around a star called Kolob..." - Not accurate. Joseph Smith never stated what planet or star that The Father lived on or near during His mortality. Joseph Smith said that where The Father resided (at the time of the statement) was near a place called Kolob. "...Mormons are nice because they are trying to pull the spirit children in to this life..." - No, it is because that is how Jesus told us to behave. If Wes Huff is a proper Christian scholar, he should know this stuff, such as the Beattitudes and the First Two Commandments. The reason "Mormons" have large families is because we are trying to help The Father complete His mission, which includes providing for the physical bodies of His spirit children. In this we are co-creating with God.
@Charistoph There are church leaders who have said you don't need to question the church. So the internet is part of not questioning the church Joseph Smith did write so either you're nitpicking what's being said or you need to show Smith didn't write something You're just lying on this since the church teaches we were spirit children. The church does teach that we will be like God in every way and be rulers and creators of our own worlds Kings Follett is just nitpicking again Kolob was a star, this is in scripture and Smith said it was closest to the throne of God and it was the governing star. So don't lie and act like we don't know Yes the church teaches that physical children on earth were spirit children in heaven. And Jesus never said anything about being co-creators with the Father so that's not true
@@president234, you bring accusations, but no references. Back up your claims. When did the church leader say you don't need to question the Church? When did they include the internet in that statement? It's not nit-picking, but demonstrating that Wes doesn't know what he's talking about. Even more, Joseph Smith didn't write what Wes said he did. I didn't deny that we are spirit children. In fact, I said how the spirit children came to be is unknown, meaning that it is a teaching, just how the creation happened is unknown. Reference needed on being rules and creators of our own worlds. Wes is nit-picking, so I can give as good as I get. Kolob was mentioned in a scripture as to near where The Father is. It says nothing about this being the planet/star the Father grew up on while in mortality. Why are you presenting it as something that Wes didn't say as though Wes did say it? I never said that Jesus said anything about being co-creators with God, so that's a strawman argument. You really like those, don't you? No wonder you are so wrong. You spend more time creating strawman than actually listening to what is being said. God the Father is the creator of our spirits. We, in turn, create the bodies for the spirits to inhabit based on the pattern that The Father and Jesus set in Adam and Eve's bodies. Thus, we are co-creators with God the Father. Do you deny this?
@@villegasni yes and an angel of Light appeared to Joseph Smith which was actually a demonic spirit, very similar to or the same one that appeared to the prophet muhammad, which told Joseph Smith that none of the churches had the truth, that first the Jews did but it was corrupted and lost from the earth, then the Christians had it and it was corrupted and lost from the earth, and so now God is going to use you Joseph smith, or you Prophet muhammad, and restore the truth to the Earth. This was a total satanic lie in both cases The Holy scripture of God warns us to test the spirits, and it even if an angel of Light should come and preach any gospel other than the one that has already been preached, let them be a cursed Mormons as well as Muslims are both accursed because they disbelieve and reject in the true historical Lord Jesus Christ as recorded throughout the Bible but instead have fabricated a counterfeit which cannot and will not save them
Lost a bit of respect for Joe Rogan after this. Hopefully he decides to have a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints on his channel so that he can better understand what they actually believe.
@ See, this is why I find it extra hard to respect Mormons. Every Mormon comes on TH-cam pretending to be a non-Mormon thinking: Oh what if I pretend I'm not a member, perhaps other non-members will copy me and decide their is some movement to defend Mormons! Or just some goofy ludicrous thinking. Everyone has noticed the nonstop Mormons who refuse to acknowledge they belong to, or were Mormons who still believe despite becoming less active, but somehow they have all these non-Mormons going to bat for them. Imagine if scientologists did the same thing. SMH. Until Mormons start owning when they are Mormons online, I will never respect them. It seems they're even ashamed of their own beliefs. If you're too ashamed to admit you are one, then why is this thing worth defending in the first place?
@@luismonterroza1930 thank you for acknowledging that Wes is speaking the truth. Have you ever watched the South Park episode on mormonism? Do you detect any falsehoods or lies in that? I thought it was extremely accurate but would like to hear your opinion
I heard a bunch of stuff growing up that turned out to be not true teachings, just speculation that wasn't supported by prophetic teaching. Wes is doing more of the former than the latter.
If you believe the Bible, it should be the only book you need. Mormons are not Christians though. Nice and well meaning people, but sadly not Christian.
Out of curiosity why do Mormons reject the Prophet Mohammed? Would his claims of continuing revelation not coincide with the same claims of Joseph Smith? What test do you use to determine when a prophet is false?
Joe, this guy definitely isn’t an expert on Mormonism and gets a lot of stuff totally wrong. You should have a member of our Church in good standing come and talk. Ask about polygamy, other planets, etc that people claim Mormon’s believe and get the story straight.
"By their fruits ye shall know them." - Jesus Christ If you like the fruit (Later Day Saints being so nice), than find yourself the tree producing that so nice fruit.
@@bubbalandbeau9872 yes indeed thank you billy, the devil was using you as his tool, and the Lord got the last laugh by using you to expose the devil's work working through you. I'm praying for Billy to repent and come to faith in the Lord Jesus Christ that he could be born again, wash clean of his sins, set free, repentant and become a new creature in Christ come along with his wife and his family, in Jesus name amen
The church is Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is Christs church and the Fullness of the gospel has been restored through the Prophet Joseph Smith. People can know that through sincere prayer and the Holy Ghost
Christ was the final prophet. There are no prophets after Christ. To deny this, is to deny the passion and to deny Christ. Joseph Smith was an Hermetic, Freemason. A Gnostic predator.
Wrong. The gospel never needed to be restored. What your false prophet did was introduce another gospel, which Paul warned that whoever did this is accursed (Galatians 1:8-9).
I don't know why the LDS say that their church contains the fullness off the gospel when their own book even says they don't have anywhere close to the fullness
@@jameswitt645, First, what gospel did Paul teach the Galatians? Reference, please. Second, what other gospel did Joseph Smith introduce? Reference, please.
To call the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints a ‘Cult’ is pretty insulting,.. but hey, free will Mr Rogan. But they are really ‘nice’ people? Hmmm maybe they know something you don’t. That said, I know some LDS that aren’t nice. I also know some Catholics, Baptist, Anglicans and athiests that are horrible too. Maybe try and understand their doctrine before condemning them.
people would say christianity is a cult, but its quite the oppsite, they don't tell what to be against, they tell you what to expect, they tell don't make it in us vs them kind of thing, jesus said if they don't accept the message shake your foot in keep going, in something alot people who try to call it a cult by pass is when jesus said you need eat my flesh and drink my blood thousand of people left, and only twelve people stayed.
By at least one definition, Christianity is a cult. That definition is "a great devotion to a person, object, movement, or work" -Merriam-Webster 2a. Jesus Christ is definitely a person, and He started an amazing movement. The Pharisees and Sadducees also consider Christianity a cult in their early years, meaning "a religion regarded as unorthodox or spurious" -Merriam-Webster 1. If you want to be technical, Merriam-Webster definition 3 also counts, as it is "a system of religious beliefs and ritual, also its body of adherents". I don't know where you get that only twelve people stayed. All of them fled at one point or another, yes, even the Twelve. Several fled that night from the Garden Gethsemane, some in shame, some in fear. Some fled later after He died. At least two were heading to Emmaus. Judas fled in to self-removal after he learned Jesus died. Yet up to 500 also witnessed the risen Jesus Christ, and continued on afterward, and thousands then millions joined them after.
Wesley has mis-stated LDS doctrine regarding the concept of becoming "a God" and the concept of "getting your own planet". This is why people should stop listening to guys like this and speak to actual LDS scholars. This rhetoric is what leads to animus and derision against the LDS people.
Well, it depends on which definition one is using. There are a couple in Merriam-Webster that would apply to the LDS Church as easily as it would apply to any Christian Church, and would even apply to Communism as well.
Joseph Smith was a reprobate. Mormon's defense of his teachings is an extension of his reprobate mind. This direct quote from him can only be interpreted one way. There is another person who believed they could be equal or higher to the Father in Heaven. His name was Satan.
The idea that 'as God is, man may become' is actually in line with what the Bible teaches about our divine potential. The scriptures show that God’s plan is for us to grow and become more like Him through Christ. 'The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.' - Romans 8:16-17 'Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.' - Matthew 5:48 'Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.' - 1 John 3:2
@@budgefamily3469It's actually not in line. Because you're taking that line out of context. LDS leadership was teaching that we can become like God in every way which does go against the Bible.
@@budgefamily3469We are made in his image. We are taught to live like Jesus. But we are not and will not ever be a god. That is heresy and one of the many plot holes in the Mormon faith.
I went non active from the mormon church about ten years ago because i couldn't believe that throughout the entire book of mormon it references sheep and considering myself a youtube historian (lol) i found it so hard to believe. How could they reference an animal that didnt even exist there until spanish arrived. But for some reason i still love and admire the type of people the church creates and the principles it teaches
@@AH-mx9pm then you should love the generic Universal non-denominational born-again Christian doctrine pure as you read it in the Bible, and judge all religions and churches by what you read their
You're right to question historical details-it's always good to dig deeper! The presence of sheep in the Book of Mormon has been a topic of discussion and debate. Historically, domesticated sheep as we know them today were introduced to the Americas by the Spanish in the 16th century. However, some scholars and believers suggest that the term "sheep" in the Book of Mormon could refer to native animals that resembled sheep, such as bighorn sheep or llamas, or that translation choices might have used familiar terms for unfamiliar animals. Ultimately, it comes down to interpretation-some see it as evidence against the book's historical accuracy, while others find ways to reconcile it with their faith. Either way, it's cool that you're exploring these questions while still appreciating the positive aspects of the church!
Where does The Book of Mormon talk of sheep without it being an analogy easily brought down as references from their forefathers? Think about how many phrases we use today that we have little knowledge of their origination and little to know common reference in how they work.
@@president234, it's hearsay when people make claims about something that weren't said. In other words, much of what Wes Huff said was not taught by a prophet, but falsehoods (at worst) or 3rd hand opinion/theory (at best). Since he didn't hear them himself from the originator, it is only hearsay.
@Charistoph What is 3rd hand from what he said? Because as far as I can tell what he is saying has been taught by people in the church. It may not he official doctrine but it's not hearsay
@@president234, if it's not official doctrine, then it's theory at best, and hearsay at worst. He practically quotes The Godmakers which is fully of made up information.
@@GravityFalloutPines show me your fun stat where a greater number of non-mormons practice polygamy at that time especially in the United States of America which was greatly founded in influenced by puritans?
Well Wes and Joe, I must say... Though the two of you, with your many false, foolish, disrespectful statements, although you may seek to deceive and mislead millions of your viewers out there, about The Church of Jesus Christ of Later Day Saints, with your foolish statements that we are nothing other than some so called Mormon Cult, that's non-Christian, etc etc. Yes, there may be so many like you out there who do seek to do this. But nevertheless, even with all the deceitful voices out there in this world , such as yours, , , still I declare to you, with a voice of everlasting truth, That nothing shall stop the Lord's true work of salvation from going forward, in ways like never before seen, , , by and through the fullness of His true gospel and church, of which was certainly restored by and through Jesus Christ himself, and His chosen servants, in these... the latter days. Though many may reject it, scoff and mock it... still nothing shall stop the Lord's true work from going forward in these latter days. All in preparation for the second coming and return of our Lord Jesus Christ in His glory.
This is funny coming from the perspective of another faith based religion with no evidence. There’s no rational evidence to support his beliefs either.
@@brb5506 huff and puff is going to blow your house of cards down, repent and believe in the historical Jesus Christ of history and the bible, the best-selling book in the entire history of the world including right now. May God the Father draw you went to his son Jesus Christ so that you can be born again, cleansed forgiven washed clean of all your sins and be filled with love peace Joy hope and eternal life in Jesus name amen
This guy, Huff, is spreading falsehoods...but if you don't go to the source you will never know. Too bad. Seems like a nice guy, but not being truthful (at worst), or just plain ignorant (at best).
I agree, TH-cam / social media is the worst place to ask about faith - talk to a friend who is "Mormon" instead (it's actually called the Church of Jesus Christ (or the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints)
Joe Rogan is smart enough to know the difference between apples and oranges. If you allow oranges to speak for apples, truly, will not get the genuine result. Let the real apples come and speak for themselves. Godspeed the right.
Bro saying we dont do our research and hes making claims having never read the book of mormon
For sure!
Joe Rogan, who calls "Mormons" the nicest and most charitable people knows, will take guests who talk crap about the faith, but will never have an actual nember on his show
repent to God Christ
Satan has deceived you
Watch the South Park episode on Mormonism
@@7x779 south park episode isnt even that good at explaining the faith either, they get most things wrong
@@irietheace1199 it's been a while since I watched it, but when I did, I did not see any thing in there that was false. It was all backed up and documented by LDS own writings.
Can you name the things that are false?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣For an "Expert" in Religion, he is lost in his own explanations about the Mormon Church.
How so?
agree!
Found the Mormons
@@gutlesswarrior Latter-day Saints
The Church has never said don't look things up
The closest may be "don't rely on a bunch of misinformation you find online, which is posted by people who are bitter and hateful towards the church for a variety of reasons". That, I can see church leaders saying. And also possibly "don't get so bogged down in the minutia of people's THEORIES about the gospel, and things which might be true but which have not yet been revealed. concentrate on things that actually have been revealed". But yeah, there's no way they would ever say "don't look things up". The church actively promotes scholarship and gaining as much knowledge as possible, about everything, including and especially about the church itself.
hes rather uninformed
so his take isnt better than
misinformation... the real
reason theyre so nice is
because THEY FULLY BELIEVE
ALL ARE BROTHERS AND SISTERS
and God sent His Son for all who will
be saved and if you dont get it now
therell be other chances before
Final Judgement... no pressure
Its because they get bonus points in heaven.
@@president234, really? Where is this mention of points ever presented?
Or could it be that we seek to become more like the Father so we will recognize Him when we meet Him because we will be like Him?
@Charistoph No, it's to gain favor in heaven. You can even see that to get in the highest part of heaven is based on merit. I don't know why you deny this
@@president234, Care to demonstrate where this is actually presented by any of the modern prophets of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?
I doubt it because you have already failed once to prove it. All you've done is accuse, and it was a faithless accusation at that.
@Charistoph Easy. It's in D&C 76. The church continues to teach this. In the article titles "Kingdoms of Glory" the church says this of the celestial kingdom, "This should be your goal: to inherit celestial glory and to help others receive that great blessing as well. Such a goal is not achieved in one attempt; it is the result of a lifetime of righteousness and constancy of purpose." So the church agrees with me and not with you.
I wonder how many other things are incorrect on this podcast. I liked listening to him all this time because I thought he researched and we were getting accurate info with informed guest-but I guess not.
What is false . Your just butt hurt
repent to God Christ
@kehaulani8892 WROTE: "I thought he researched and we were getting accurate info with informed guest-but I guess not."
what's not accurate about what Wes said?
@@Baggerz182 Jesus Christ is my Savior❤️🙏🏽
@@rickdavis2235 I do like Wes’ story of why instead of joining the police force he chose to study the Bible to defend against criticisms about his belief in Jesus. I also appreciate how he pointed out historical findings and studies which corresponded to things in the Bible or the teachings of Jesus. He shared many insightful things.
However, his comments about the beliefs of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are inaccurate. One of the many things that stand out to me is regarding The Bible- He said that we don’t use the Bible- I’ve read/studied the Bible from Old Testament to New Testament with intention at least 10 times and I reference it constantly and believe in the Bible. The Article of Faith he misquoted actually states :We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly. We also believe The Book of Mormon to be the word of God. We use the King James Version of the Bible.
If one is a scholar of theology at least get things accurate. Criticism is one thing but it at least should be based on accurate information.
He's stated things either inaccurately or in far more dogmatic fashion than they are actually written for the mormon. Still - just look at the underlying beliefs:
1. When you have children, you bring a soul into physical existence
2. We are all children of God in the actual physical sense
3. God has a body - which isn't a very wild claim considering Jesus said he is exactly as his Father and the bodily resurrection of Christ is the crowning truth claim of christianity.
4. There is hierarchy of governing planets acting on the various movement and forces of celestial planets/matter
5. The children of God will continue the creative work of planet making in some phase of eternity. (there is no teaching claiming we're getting our "own" planets btw) Again, not sure what anyone makes of the christian ontological musings of "enter into my joy and sit down on my throne." Just unsure what you'd think God is trying to offer us with that or the injunction to be perfect as our Father in heaven is perfect.
Boy - yeah - I'm sure you all have a lot more rational explanations of eschatology.
Do Mormons get heir own planet though? Will you become a god on your own planet?
@@MrChelcy1 Nobody has every presumed to know with anywhere near that level of detail what it looks like to inherit a mansion in our Father's house. First I think more people would need to be interested in making our current planet significantly better. I think God will send us a memo when that's adequately achieved and let us know what next steps look like.
In short though - no, there are no canonical teachings whatsoever about anyone getting their own planet. Not a word from Joseph Smith to that effect. Maybe some comments from a speculative scholar or even church leader. Those hold no water - although you try speculating about what exactly we'll be doing in a billion years from now and see if your ideas sound any better. It's a useless speculation. It's a harmful speculation given the condition of our current planet.
@MrChelcy1 you keep spamming this like it's some gotcha question lol - no where in the Book of Mormon does a prophet teach you get your "own planet". Sounds like you are confusing the fact that our Heavenly Father, who loves us like a father, gives us eternal knowledge and progression (you can learn and grow a lot in ETERNITY)
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@@daretobeamormon a more accurate undocumented explanation of Mormonism can be seen by watching the South Park episode of it which is actually a documentary as well. Check it out and if you find anything false in that that cannot be documented by official Mormon church doctrine and writings, let me know I will be certainly surprised. I studied Mormonism quite well and used to have all the copies of their church doctrine.
It's actually insane how wrong his explanation of LDS beliefs is. Like wow.
Do Mormons get heir own planet though? Will you become a god on your own planet?
Elaborate. What was incorrectly stated?
Wes is about 60% right on his points. He knows just enough to be dangerous (and spread misinformation)
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@@GravityFalloutPines the Mormon church is 100% wrong and spreads misinformation.
This is so off.
In what way?
If wes understood scripture, he would know that the bible confirms that we were in existence before our earthly existence.
Where does it say this?
@@sarahpeterson8191 just a few references. Obviously not everything that we believe will be in the Bible, since we believe in prophets as they did in the Bible. Modern revelation reveals more, but here are a couple that are in the Bible:
God of the spirits of all flesh, Num. 16:22 (27:16).
all the sons of God shouted for joy, Job 38:7.
the spirit shall return unto God who gave it, Eccl. 12:7.
Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee, Jer. 1:5.
What about the tiers of heaven? Exaltation is left for only Mormons.
@badash5543 just like any promises of the gospel, exultation is for ANYONE who fulfills the Lord commandments.
In the book of Jeremiah - God states that Jeremiah's spirit existed before he was born
I’ve visited the religious services of every major religion, as well as 20+ different Christian denominations, and the LDS service is the only one where I’ve heard the leadership say “go find out for yourself if this is true by studying and asking God.” Bro’s got his arrow straight, but the target is behind him.
Except when your research and prayer leads you away from the LDS church they just call your prayer insincere and youre influenced by anti-mormons
The internet is full of lies about the LDS church and religion.
One way to tell if an organization is a cult is its members will always tell you everyone is lying about their cult.
@andywilliams5769 one way to know an organization has the truth, is everyone loves to lie about it!
The cult of LDS speaks for its self.
You guys believe we all have the opportunity to become gods 🤔
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He’s not wrong though… the LDS faith does believe in a spiritual war, believes we have a pre ordained family, and it is common Mormon knowledge if you get to the celestial kingdom you can become like God.
I’m confused as to how Wes is wrong, minus the fact he sounded like he states we have a heavily mother and heavily father which are our parents on earth today, but maybe I misunderstood.
Also LDS people do not do research on their own faith unless it comes from the church itself.
well... he is wrong because he isn't completely right. Yes he got the idea of the premortal existence, but he sources it to the King Follet discourse which is wrong, those teaching appeared before that and the discourse is more about eternal progression rather than family. He also attributes a bunch of stuff to the King Follet discourse that are not in it such as Kolob. He also doesn't thoroughly answer the question of a family oriented Latter-Day Saint fully or correctly. If you ask a Latter-day Saint why they are family driven, they are definitely going to point you to the sealing ordinance, about being a family for eternity, other Christian churches say "until death do ye part" in their marriages, the perspective of a Latter-day Saint completely changes as a result of this and this would be considered the true driving force for them to be family oriented, it's not primarily because of the premortal existence. They will point you to the fact the they believe God's commandment to to multiply and replenishes the earth remains in force -- which can be tied to that, but the reality is when you get down to it, it's more they believe God commands them to have children rather than feeling obligated to pull spirits into the world which is not something they are consistently thinking about. They will point you to the family proclamation. The premortal existence doesn't have the sway of these other things, especially the temple ordinances which definitely all existed before the King Follet discourse. A Latter-day Saint simply is not going to be satisfied with this answer.
Also, it's their history, I don't understand how you could historically know that faith unless you are studying things like the joseph smith papers (which are peer reviewed in and out of the church, but is officially comes from the church) and the King Follet discourse which was given by a church prophet and taught by the churches universities. Who is more authoritative then them about their own story?
I also don't know what he is talking about with the internet stuff I can't find that anywhere, the entire foundation of the church is that a kid questioned the system and the churches around him, followed the bible which told him to ask a question and he did so and recieved an answer. This is exactly what the church constantly invites people to do, of course they are going to tell you to not trust everything you read on the internet, imagine someone getting their factual answers from reddit, and of course an organization is going to push back against criticism because they think they are right. And of course there are people out there who hate the church that you can't trust as far as you throw them either, it's probably a bad idea to read their propoganda, but still important that you study a variety of sources, the church doesn't discourage this as far as I know, but they are going to discourage you from reading people with extremely passionate feelings whose bias is so strong you aren't able to trust what comes out of it.
Someone who clearly hasn’t read the Book of Mormon projecting that others don’t do research. 😂
Mormons are completely encouraged to study and learn for themselves
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@@Baggerz182 The first principles of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are faith in Jesus Christ and repentance. Members live by these principles daily. Therefore, your comment must be aimed at Joe Rogan and Wes Huff. I agree with this.
Very distorted beliefs about the LDS people.
In what way?
@@president234, "You don't need to go onto the internet." - Never been said. We have been advised to be careful about what is said on the internet, because there is more misinformation than proper information on the internet. This is basic wisdom. What's ironic is how much The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints puts out on to the internet for perusal.
"In what Joseph Smith wrote..." - He really didn't write very much. Most of what is written about what he said was written by other people.
"...you were born as a spirit child in a previous life..." - Neither Joseph Smith, nor any following prophet, has ever stated how our spirit bodies were created. They could have been "born" the way Adam was "born". We honestly do not know. Any concept of spirit child birth is speculation if not pure invention. In addition, while it was a previous stage of existence, we don't really consider it a "previous life" any more than one would consider pre-college life to be a previous life.
"...you are all children of god in a physical sense..." - Not a physical sense. Your parents are your parents in a physical sense. God the Father is the father of our spirits.
"...you will be a god on your own planet..." - Joseph Smith never stated this, and this has just been theory and speculation. That being said, Paul has said that we are joint-heirs with Christ (Romans 8). What did Christ inherit?
"...Kings Follet funeral discourse..." - King Follet was the man's name, not Kings Follet. This wasn't a discourse but a preaching at the funeral. Also, technically not canonized by the LDS Church as the scribing wasn't done at the time of presentation, but later written down after the fact. So take the writings with a grain of salt.
"...circled around a star called Kolob..." - Not accurate. Joseph Smith never stated what planet or star that The Father lived on or near during His mortality. Joseph Smith said that where The Father resided (at the time of the statement) was near a place called Kolob.
"...Mormons are nice because they are trying to pull the spirit children in to this life..." - No, it is because that is how Jesus told us to behave. If Wes Huff is a proper Christian scholar, he should know this stuff, such as the Beattitudes and the First Two Commandments. The reason "Mormons" have large families is because we are trying to help The Father complete His mission, which includes providing for the physical bodies of His spirit children. In this we are co-creating with God.
@Charistoph There are church leaders who have said you don't need to question the church. So the internet is part of not questioning the church
Joseph Smith did write so either you're nitpicking what's being said or you need to show Smith didn't write something
You're just lying on this since the church teaches we were spirit children.
The church does teach that we will be like God in every way and be rulers and creators of our own worlds
Kings Follett is just nitpicking again
Kolob was a star, this is in scripture and Smith said it was closest to the throne of God and it was the governing star. So don't lie and act like we don't know
Yes the church teaches that physical children on earth were spirit children in heaven. And Jesus never said anything about being co-creators with the Father so that's not true
@@president234, you bring accusations, but no references. Back up your claims.
When did the church leader say you don't need to question the Church? When did they include the internet in that statement?
It's not nit-picking, but demonstrating that Wes doesn't know what he's talking about. Even more, Joseph Smith didn't write what Wes said he did.
I didn't deny that we are spirit children. In fact, I said how the spirit children came to be is unknown, meaning that it is a teaching, just how the creation happened is unknown.
Reference needed on being rules and creators of our own worlds.
Wes is nit-picking, so I can give as good as I get.
Kolob was mentioned in a scripture as to near where The Father is. It says nothing about this being the planet/star the Father grew up on while in mortality. Why are you presenting it as something that Wes didn't say as though Wes did say it?
I never said that Jesus said anything about being co-creators with God, so that's a strawman argument. You really like those, don't you? No wonder you are so wrong. You spend more time creating strawman than actually listening to what is being said.
God the Father is the creator of our spirits. We, in turn, create the bodies for the spirits to inhabit based on the pattern that The Father and Jesus set in Adam and Eve's bodies. Thus, we are co-creators with God the Father. Do you deny this?
What he said was 100% accurate. Go read the King Follet Discourse
“The Mormons are so nice.” - Matt 7:16 You will recognize them by their fruits…
It was based on Joseph Smith wondering which church was true. Do your research Roggan. Shame on you.
Do Mormons get heir own planet though? Will you become a god on your own planet?
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Yes, that's what Joseph claimed, and then an antichrist spirit showed up. He heard the gospel and rejected it
@@MrChelcy1 yes
@@villegasni yes and an angel of Light appeared to Joseph Smith which was actually a demonic spirit, very similar to or the same one that appeared to the prophet muhammad, which told Joseph Smith that none of the churches had the truth, that first the Jews did but it was corrupted and lost from the earth, then the Christians had it and it was corrupted and lost from the earth, and so now God is going to use you Joseph smith, or you Prophet muhammad, and restore the truth to the Earth.
This was a total satanic lie in both cases
The Holy scripture of God warns us to test the spirits, and it even if an angel of Light should come and preach any gospel other than the one that has already been preached, let them be a cursed
Mormons as well as Muslims are both accursed because they disbelieve and reject in the true historical Lord Jesus Christ as recorded throughout the Bible but instead have fabricated a counterfeit which cannot and will not save them
Lost a bit of respect for Joe Rogan after this. Hopefully he decides to have a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints on his channel so that he can better understand what they actually believe.
He’s a comedian
I hope you actually study your religion and learn what it actually is.
@@vobdog2398 who said I was a member of the LDS church?
@ See, this is why I find it extra hard to respect Mormons. Every Mormon comes on TH-cam pretending to be a non-Mormon thinking: Oh what if I pretend I'm not a member, perhaps other non-members will copy me and decide their is some movement to defend Mormons!
Or just some goofy ludicrous thinking. Everyone has noticed the nonstop Mormons who refuse to acknowledge they belong to, or were Mormons who still believe despite becoming less active, but somehow they have all these non-Mormons going to bat for them. Imagine if scientologists did the same thing. SMH. Until Mormons start owning when they are Mormons online, I will never respect them. It seems they're even ashamed of their own beliefs. If you're too ashamed to admit you are one, then why is this thing worth defending in the first place?
@ Can you explain to me why so many Mormons don't have the backbone to admit they are Mormon? Or why so many dance around their status?
We're nice because Jesus was nice. He didn't bash people to believe, that is what the roman church did later.
Read the book of Mormon for yourself Joe and then you'll be speaking from a place of knowledge.
Jesus was harsh sometimes, in scripture
@ And So is President Nelsen. Jesus has sent his servants today.
Most of this saying he’s spreading falsehoods are lying. I grew up Mormon & Wes is speaking facts.
@@luismonterroza1930 thank you for acknowledging that Wes is speaking the truth. Have you ever watched the South Park episode on mormonism? Do you detect any falsehoods or lies in that? I thought it was extremely accurate but would like to hear your opinion
@@7x779is that a joke?
I heard a bunch of stuff growing up that turned out to be not true teachings, just speculation that wasn't supported by prophetic teaching. Wes is doing more of the former than the latter.
As a member the Bible is hand in hand with what we believe about God and Jesus Christ.
If it was hand in hand then you'd know you wouldn't need a standing prophet anymore
If you believe the Bible, it should be the only book you need. Mormons are not Christians though. Nice and well meaning people, but sadly not Christian.
@ A prophet is someone that God speaks through.There isn’t a time in our history more than now where we have a prophet.
@vernshumway5939 Yes, and that position now belongs to Christ (Hebrews 1:1-2)
Out of curiosity why do Mormons reject the Prophet Mohammed? Would his claims of continuing revelation not coincide with the same claims of Joseph Smith? What test do you use to determine when a prophet is false?
For a scholar of the Bible he sure don’t know it ! Luke 24 ! I assumed we all thought Christ had a Body?? He says he does
Joe, this guy definitely isn’t an expert on Mormonism and gets a lot of stuff totally wrong. You should have a member of our Church in good standing come and talk. Ask about polygamy, other planets, etc that people claim Mormon’s believe and get the story straight.
What does he get wrong?
So why are they nice? I must've missed that bit
Come and see :)
"By their fruits ye shall know them." - Jesus Christ
If you like the fruit (Later Day Saints being so nice), than find yourself the tree producing that so nice fruit.
This guy is thinks he knows everything but he is confused himself. Let's not confuse others wess
Must be Mormon
Nah I’m pretty sure you are the confused one. Mormonism is one of the most confusing man made religion.
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@@villegasni he is definitely not confused
@@7x779, he is definitely confused as he mixes up information and sources, including the Godmakers.
Hmmm! Hmmm! 🤔🤔… Billy introduced us to this scholar. Thank you! 🙏🏼
@@bubbalandbeau9872 yes indeed thank you billy, the devil was using you as his tool, and the Lord got the last laugh by using you to expose the devil's work working through you. I'm praying for Billy to repent and come to faith in the Lord Jesus Christ that he could be born again, wash clean of his sins, set free, repentant and become a new creature in Christ come along with his wife and his family, in Jesus name amen
The church is Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is Christs church and the Fullness of the gospel has been restored through the Prophet Joseph Smith. People can know that through sincere prayer and the Holy Ghost
Christ was the final prophet. There are no prophets after Christ. To deny this, is to deny the passion and to deny Christ.
Joseph Smith was an Hermetic, Freemason.
A Gnostic predator.
Wrong. The gospel never needed to be restored. What your false prophet did was introduce another gospel, which Paul warned that whoever did this is accursed (Galatians 1:8-9).
I don't know why the LDS say that their church contains the fullness off the gospel when their own book even says they don't have anywhere close to the fullness
@@jameswitt645, First, what gospel did Paul teach the Galatians? Reference, please.
Second, what other gospel did Joseph Smith introduce? Reference, please.
@Charistoph Paul: Galatians 2:16; Ephesians 2:8-9; Romans 1:16; 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. Joseph Smith: 2 Nephi 25:23. Two different gospels.
To call the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints a ‘Cult’ is pretty insulting,.. but hey, free will Mr Rogan.
But they are really ‘nice’ people? Hmmm maybe they know something you don’t. That said, I know some LDS that aren’t nice. I also know some Catholics, Baptist, Anglicans and athiests that are horrible too. Maybe try and understand their doctrine before condemning them.
Its hard to understand their doctrine when the LDS don't even understand it.
@ so you’re telling me the majority of LDS don’t understand their own doctrine? Hmm, and your evidence of this would be… ?
@CheckYourLeaderTV Yes, that is what I'm saying. That is why they still can't even agree on whether they are poly or monotheists
@@president234 all the LDS I know seem to be very clear on their doctrine. And I know many. 100s
@@CheckYourLeaderTV So....poly or monotheist?
Not the American Primeval ones
people would say christianity is a cult, but its quite the oppsite, they don't tell what to be against, they tell you what to expect, they tell don't make it in us vs them kind of thing, jesus said if they don't accept the message shake your foot in keep going, in something alot people who try to call it a cult by pass is when jesus said you need eat my flesh and drink my blood thousand of people left, and only twelve people stayed.
By at least one definition, Christianity is a cult. That definition is "a great devotion to a person, object, movement, or work" -Merriam-Webster 2a. Jesus Christ is definitely a person, and He started an amazing movement.
The Pharisees and Sadducees also consider Christianity a cult in their early years, meaning "a religion regarded as unorthodox or spurious" -Merriam-Webster 1.
If you want to be technical, Merriam-Webster definition 3 also counts, as it is "a system of religious beliefs and ritual, also its body of adherents".
I don't know where you get that only twelve people stayed. All of them fled at one point or another, yes, even the Twelve. Several fled that night from the Garden Gethsemane, some in shame, some in fear. Some fled later after He died. At least two were heading to Emmaus. Judas fled in to self-removal after he learned Jesus died.
Yet up to 500 also witnessed the risen Jesus Christ, and continued on afterward, and thousands then millions joined them after.
Wesley has mis-stated LDS doctrine regarding the concept of becoming "a God" and the concept of "getting your own planet". This is why people should stop listening to guys like this and speak to actual LDS scholars. This rhetoric is what leads to animus and derision against the LDS people.
They didn’t have movies back then, so they repeated the same stories over and over again.
You mean like wat the tv does?
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Not a cult.
Well, it depends on which definition one is using. There are a couple in Merriam-Webster that would apply to the LDS Church as easily as it would apply to any Christian Church, and would even apply to Communism as well.
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No lies told. “As man is, God once was and as God is, man may become.” - Joseph Smith
Joseph Smith was a reprobate. Mormon's defense of his teachings is an extension of his reprobate mind. This direct quote from him can only be interpreted one way. There is another person who believed they could be equal or higher to the Father in Heaven. His name was Satan.
This quote is from Lorenzo Snow, The 5th President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
The idea that 'as God is, man may become' is actually in line with what the Bible teaches about our divine potential. The scriptures show that God’s plan is for us to grow and become more like Him through Christ.
'The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.' - Romans 8:16-17
'Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.' - Matthew 5:48
'Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.' - 1 John 3:2
@@budgefamily3469It's actually not in line. Because you're taking that line out of context. LDS leadership was teaching that we can become like God in every way which does go against the Bible.
@@budgefamily3469We are made in his image. We are taught to live like Jesus. But we are not and will not ever be a god. That is heresy and one of the many plot holes in the Mormon faith.
I went non active from the mormon church about ten years ago because i couldn't believe that throughout the entire book of mormon it references sheep and considering myself a youtube historian (lol) i found it so hard to believe. How could they reference an animal that didnt even exist there until spanish arrived. But for some reason i still love and admire the type of people the church creates and the principles it teaches
@@AH-mx9pm then you should love the generic Universal non-denominational born-again Christian doctrine pure as you read it in the Bible, and judge all religions and churches by what you read their
You're right to question historical details-it's always good to dig deeper! The presence of sheep in the Book of Mormon has been a topic of discussion and debate. Historically, domesticated sheep as we know them today were introduced to the Americas by the Spanish in the 16th century. However, some scholars and believers suggest that the term "sheep" in the Book of Mormon could refer to native animals that resembled sheep, such as bighorn sheep or llamas, or that translation choices might have used familiar terms for unfamiliar animals.
Ultimately, it comes down to interpretation-some see it as evidence against the book's historical accuracy, while others find ways to reconcile it with their faith. Either way, it's cool that you're exploring these questions while still appreciating the positive aspects of the church!
Where does The Book of Mormon talk of sheep without it being an analogy easily brought down as references from their forefathers?
Think about how many phrases we use today that we have little knowledge of their origination and little to know common reference in how they work.
Philosophies of men mingled with scripture. He has no idea what he's talking about.
Philosophies of men mingled with hearsay is even worse.
@@Charistophits not hearsay when it's been taught
@@president234, it's hearsay when people make claims about something that weren't said. In other words, much of what Wes Huff said was not taught by a prophet, but falsehoods (at worst) or 3rd hand opinion/theory (at best). Since he didn't hear them himself from the originator, it is only hearsay.
@Charistoph What is 3rd hand from what he said? Because as far as I can tell what he is saying has been taught by people in the church. It may not he official doctrine but it's not hearsay
@@president234, if it's not official doctrine, then it's theory at best, and hearsay at worst. He practically quotes The Godmakers which is fully of made up information.
Biggest mistake the LDS church made was getting rid of polygamy. The US is in a population decline. Bring back polygamy.
Haha, that's so funny. Polygamy is a constitutionally protected right.
Id love that all my siblings have a different parent genetic diversity better than inbreeding
Funny stat - a greater percentage of non-Mormons practiced polygamy during that time
They practiced polygamy in the Bible too btw
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@@GravityFalloutPines show me your fun stat where a greater number of non-mormons practice polygamy at that time especially in the United States of America which was greatly founded in influenced by puritans?
Well Wes and Joe, I must say... Though the two of you, with your many false, foolish, disrespectful statements, although you may seek to deceive and mislead millions of your viewers out there, about The Church of Jesus Christ of Later Day Saints, with your foolish statements that we are nothing other than some so called Mormon Cult, that's non-Christian, etc etc. Yes, there may be so many like you out there who do seek to do this. But nevertheless, even with all the deceitful voices out there in this world , such as yours, , , still I declare to you, with a voice of everlasting truth, That nothing shall stop the Lord's true work of salvation from going forward, in ways like never before seen, , , by and through the fullness of His true gospel and church, of which was certainly restored by and through Jesus Christ himself, and His chosen servants, in these... the latter days. Though many may reject it, scoff and mock it... still nothing shall stop the Lord's true work from going forward in these latter days. All in preparation for the second coming and return of our Lord Jesus Christ in His glory.
They are still heretics
Lol based Wes, pissong Mormons and their cope church off.
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This is funny coming from the perspective of another faith based religion with no evidence. There’s no rational evidence to support his beliefs either.
Huff n Puff.
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@@Baggerz182 Look to the beam in your eye first. Wes Huff is a con man.
@@brb5506 huff and puff is going to blow your house of cards down, repent and believe in the historical Jesus Christ of history and the bible, the best-selling book in the entire history of the world including right now. May God the Father draw you went to his son Jesus Christ so that you can be born again, cleansed forgiven washed clean of all your sins and be filled with love peace Joy hope and eternal life in Jesus name amen
@7x779 I'm built on the Rock with a firm foundation in a house of stone that will never fall because it is the Kingdom of God on earth.
@@brb5506The LDS church is a foundation of quicksand
This guy, Huff, is spreading falsehoods...but if you don't go to the source you will never know. Too bad. Seems like a nice guy, but not being truthful (at worst), or just plain ignorant (at best).
Do Mormons get heir own planet though? Will you become a god on your own planet?
@MrChelcy1 awe...I see where you're going...again, stay ignorant or go to the source...to the world we're a peculiar people. 😉
@@uofan1why be snarky? It’s a legitimate question. Do you know the answer?
@MrChelcy1 Yes...if you wanna know, ask someone local...TH-cam isn't a great place for religious discussions. Sorry if I came off snarky.
I agree, TH-cam / social media is the worst place to ask about faith - talk to a friend who is "Mormon" instead (it's actually called the Church of Jesus Christ (or the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints)
Wes Huff believes in the exact same set of fairy tales that Joseph Smith did... well... until Joseph decided to make up some of his own. LOL.
Wes believes more, as he is believing fairy tales about what others believe.