I think when Cole was bragging about the watch being completely in-house, he was hoping that nobody would notice that he swapped out the dust collecting OEM silicon strap for that excellent Uncle Seiko reproduction.
The Tissot is the correct answer. This Powermatic 80 Silicium movement is insane. Mine runs at Rolex spec of -1 to +1 per day, absolutely mind blown. I’m sure I got very luck, but the quality and finishing of the Tissot, especially when compared to the Hamilton and Seiko, but also compared to any watch under $1000, or even $2000, is much better on the Tissot. Maybe if my watch came in a -20sec/day I’d feel differently, but I’m absolutely in love with my white dial on bracelet
mido, certina, hamilton and longines are all tiers above tissot and theyre all swatch owned companies. at the 2k level you have oris sinn and others, youre sipping some good kool aid lol
@@gothops154 whats that? I've spent time in wus in the past. Completed 5 watch collection and got out of the watch world for the most part. Oh forgot, rado above tissot too LMAO
I bought the Tissot a few months ago, as my first mechanical watch. It has the looks I was aiming for (blue dial/leather strap) wears comfortably and has proven to be very accurate. My example runs steadily at +2 s a day. Wish the loom lasted a little longer though.
I always have fun with people buying Seiko and complaining about how they can't handle the bugs. If you go to the river you get wet. Seiko is the river and all the little QC issiues are the Seiko's charms that get you wet. Be prepared, deal with it it and enjoy. And I am not talking about some serious stuff that happens to any brand just those little unperfections that make Seiko Seiko.
Hodinkee made a video for the everyman! Love my Khaki King for everyday wearing, but if I could only have one watch for all conditions, the Seiko Turtle wins it.
i think the tissot is a criminally underrated watch. It trades a bit of character, that the others have in spades, for great looks, enourmous versitility (this thing works on all straps from croc to mesh to rubber). While someone with a watch collection would probably see it as basic, for a one wacht collection it's the best one in the vid
I think you've hit the nail on the head: it trades character for versatility and just all-around practicality. I can see someone who just wants an honest reliable timepiece to pick it up.
Have to give two thumbs. First to the Swatch group for bringing to market innovative, well executed, and very affordable watches. Second to the Hodinkee boys for leaving the watch snobbery at the door and sharing with us these great everyman watches.
Of the three, I really like the Tissot (especially on the bracelet), however, more than any previous three-on-three, these really act as three parts of a collection, instead of three truely competing watches. The Seiko is a great watch, with lots of character and heritage, and is an excellent beater/casual watch. That said, I’ve long felt that Seiko has surrendered its title of “Best Value Auto Diver” to Orient, especially after Orient updated their movements. The Orient Ray II does basically everything the Turtle does for a third of the price, while the new Kamasu even features a sapphire crystal for almost half the Turtles price. The Hamilton has even more heritage than the Seiko, and an objectively better movement. However, 50M WR is simply not enough for what is supposed to be a field watch. The automatic Khaki Field has 100M WR, and I never understood why the mechanical didn’t. Finally, the Tissot looks very “reserved” in photos, which is the polite way to say “boring” (however the details definitely help make it more interesting in person). However, it’s definitely the most versatile of the three, and is probably the best boardroom-to-beach watch under $1K. It’s dressy enough to work as a dress watch, yet still features 100M WR, a decent bracelet, and just enough lume to be useful at night; the Si mainspring is simply a bonus. That said, each of these definitely have a place in a collection, and which is the right choice is as much due to what is already in your collection as anything else.
i agree they are all very different and would be a great collection where you could have some high quality amazing watches without spending crazy crazy money
Just to clarify.. the Hamilton field mechanical isn't quite an homage, given it's a recreation of their OWN field watch that was issued to the US military during Vietnam. To me that's a big difference bc it's not trying to mimic another brands history, it's bringing back it's own! Cheers
Its tricky knowing exactly what the dynamic was. Perhaps he was under the impression that this was to be a provocative segment. Perhaps the other gentlemen were also making similar comments, but they were edited out. Honestly, I think he was just trying to make things more interesting.
My choice for under $1,000: The Tissot one (Tissot Gentleman) is on point. Seiko would be the Baby Alpinist, and Hamilton would be the Khaki Field Auto.
I have a Tissot Gentleman, in addition to others, and enjoy it very much. They only reason why I'd get a Hamilton is because I like they style of the field watch and don't have one.
I have the Seiko Kinetic diver too,have it years now. I changed the rubber strap once,a great tip I think is to regularly wet it.I wear it in the shower once or twice a week,take it off when it’s good and wet and put it on again when getting dressed.It saves the watch getting brittle and perished. It’s my daily,it’s reliable and it looks good to.Never any issues with it.
Great watch talk! Winner for me is the Tissot...Beautiful and sharp. I have to say I am partial to dress watches. But these were all so different, you can see the strengths in all three. And each presentation was incredibly done. I learned so much about each one. Thanks.
You might be right, but I dont feel that the selection was bad. Sure one could always claim that this and that model should have been there, but in the end not a bad selection really.
I’ve got that exact same Tissot. Just to add, the ETA movement is out performing my new generation Rolex 3235 Datejust 41 and old generation 3135 Rolex Submariner, returning a staggering +2s per week and a ridiculous power reserve of easily 80 hours. The Tissot has an under the radar everyday appeal, just gets the job done and gives enough twinkle under strong lighting with great legibility and easy fit and forget wearability. So you’re getting sub COSC performance at a bang for the buck price. Just goes to show, these days you can buy a solid reliable good looking mechanical Swiss watch without breaking the bank. That black dial version is the best integrated design for me with the black date wheel and a cool subtle sunburst dial that hides away under all but the most strong lighting hence looks like a quality piece. Much more than the sum of its parts, Bravo Tissot, seems the sexy silicon tech is trickling down from the more mighty Swatch sub brands. Great three way review guys some excellent choices.
I have a blue dial gentleman and about 10 other watches, including Maurice Lacroix, Seiko, Omega Aqua Terra, other Tissots, and got the Gentleman as an everyday wear. It doesn't disappoint. There is almost no outfit or situation where it doesn't fit.
matthew hoover nice one. I’ve only seen the blue in quartz and it looked like a great dark hue with a nice sunburst effect bringing it to life in the sunshine. I went for the all black as I have three blue dials and only two other black dial watches. The blue is cool and even the silver sunburst is a fresh looking summery watch. Handsome masculine no nonsense timeless design, great everyday piece for the workplace rotation. But the accuracy has blown me away the most. Quite gutted that it makes my Rolex watches look like slouches, and the new gen Rolex movements are good for +7s per week.
I like it. Hodinkee has by now become famous for referring to 5000 dollar watches as "affordable" and "entry level" and to an extent distancing themselves from the every day consumer. But their audience is much wider than that.
Manny Calavera unfortunately they did that a long time ago. Every host they have is a great name and an interesting celeb in their own right but they all only show us patek , Rolex and of course AP. It’s not for regular ppl who can’t go above $1k.
That seiko really looks beautiful, with that in house built movement and superb water resistance, properly built tough as nails tool watch, really can't go wrong. Except that the watch case is a little too large to my liking but if you think of it as a very legible tool watch, 44 mm isn't that bad.
In house movements doesn't automatically make the movement any better. Cheap Seiko movements are infamous for poor accuracy. The 4R36 discussed in the video and the one you're referencing; has a measured accuracy of +45 to -35 seconds a day. That's not impressive at all. A decent ETA movement is a better movement, in-house or not. Period.
I have Seiko Turtle SRPA21 PADI edition. For the movement, I think it doesn`t require any maintenance. Because it is not just practical. Cost of maintenance is at least 1/3 price of the watch. If anything happens you can replace the movement. It is cheaper than cost of regular maintenance. Moreover, movement is very reliable. On paper hardlex may appear to be a downside but in practical usage i really like it a lot. It is clear, very thin, no optical illusions on the edges, it does the job. Also, bezel protects the glass quite nice. I am very happy with my Turtle. You need to try the Turtle on your wrist you may change your idea. I considered that Hamilton but I heard fogging issues in khaki series. Tissot has great movement but it looks soulless. Design is so subtle. I prefer Seiko Presage series with fancy dials over that Tissot.
I have the Seiko Turtle and I love it. I will say though that the Hamilton is so thin and elegant that I can't help but admire it. I definitely would like to add the Hamilton to my collection.
Bravo! Most people cannot afford the watches you make videos about, which suggests that watch collecting is for rich snobs who can buy timepieces that are the price of cars. I’m impressed that Hodinkee has finally made a video about watches that are more affordable for people, and did it in a way that honored and gave credit to less prestigious brands. Great video!
TBF Seiko makes the most accurate watches out of the ones featured... and in the world. Spring Drive has +- one second a day, to a Superlative Chronometer's +- 2.
For a grand you can nearly get a Sinn 556. It would have the field watch aesthetic of the Hamilton in A form, the dress watch aesthetic of the Tissot in I form, but the water resistance of the Seiko, and the anti-magnetism and build quality beyond all three combined - plus a date window and decent steel bracelet and ornamented display caseback. It would basically be all 2 or 3 of these watches in one and still be within their budget. But I agree all three of these watches are great values even at their price points.
I'd take the Seiko, then the Hamilton, and then the Tissot Gentleman. No hate against Tissot per se, but I think the Visodate is a much better watch at that price range.
Why, why, WHY, can Seiko not seem to align their chapter rings or bezels? If my $40 Casio Duro can be aligned, I KNOW Seiko can do it. It’s purely unacceptable on a watch of this price. Seiko should be ashamed that they let these small QC issues go on and on for years.
The tissot has a great movement and very classy with its applied indices. A step above the other two IMHO, but also more expensive to reflect that. And a 100m WR, it is the watch to rule them all really. Love the hamilton for its authentic field watch homage - would make a great daily watch - especially if you're a vet and have that link. The seiko great for daily sports and watersport watch but the aesthetics are functional - a great tool watch. Whatever best suits your purpose I thinl with this three. I'd wear any of them.
I could have done without Mr. Pennington’s competitiveness. I don’t watch these videos to see who might win, and I’m quite sure that competition is not what these videos are about - at all. That said, I’m impressed with all three watches. I’m also enamored of the idea of being a one-watch guy, which led me to purchase a Seiko SARB035 in 2016 ($332, from Amazon). This is my GADA watch. I wear it every single day, no matter what I’m doing. It’s not the best timekeeper, though. It loses between about 42s/d to about 62s/d, so I have to set it twice a day - even after an overhaul eleven months ago. And it makes my timegrapher look like a snow-filled sky (not good). Here’s the thing about this watch: I can’t stop looking at it. It’s gorgeous. And it works for everything I wear on a daily basis. It’s great for a tightwad like me who doesn’t have money to toss into a fireplace. Having said that, I might still wind up with a Stowa Antea KS 35.5mm (silver) and a Zenith El Primero Original 1969. They are both classics with interesting history and class. I would love to see you gentlemen cover The Stowa Antea KS.
Why do I get the impression these guys are like supervillains revealing their new inventions of destruction to each other, vying for the most dastardly.
Recently picked up the Hamilton Khaki Field mechanical watch with date function.. I picked the olive green dial as at times the dial looks black, other times grey, and other times olive green. One of best “value” watch out there. Hard to find a better watch at this price point!
Sylas Schmidt thanks for the reply. I bought quite a few, they all have misalignments. Now I only kept my sarb017, still misaligned. So I would say you got lucky. The turtle in the video is misaligned too.
I'm going to have some fun with this one. I've had 2 out of the 3 watches from here, sold one and kept the other. The Turtle, of which I owned an SRP775, is an excellent piece if you want something a bit beefier than an SKX and with some more history to it. I got one, modified it with a sapphire crystal and lumed sapphire bezel insert, but ultimately ended up selling it. Why? Well, the piece actually fit my 5.75 inch wrist rather well, but the size is noticeable when you have to be even more careful than usual trying to go through doorways for instance. It is not a bad watch at all, but I don't regret selling mine. I do question, however, why Hodinkee didn't include the King Turtle in this review rather than the standard one? It's about $595 for one with a rubber strap, and it comes with features like a ceramic bezel and sapphire crystal that people have been begging Seiko to include for years. The Tissot? Haven't owned one or held one in person, but there are a couple of problems I have with it. First off, I've heard from many sources about their regulation being a bit off considering the Powermatic 80 is capable of some amazing accuracy for the $$. If I'm paying $725 for a watch, I'm not expecting a COSC certificate but anything within +5/-5 would be excellent. +10/-10 or more? Rather disappointing... Second, why do the models with metal bracelets have a silicon balance spring and 100M WR, and then have a deployant clasp versus one with microadjustments? Why? Is this supposed to be a dress/business watch, or a sports watch? Feels like a bit of an identity crisis... It simply does nothing for me. Last but not least, the Hamilton. Full disclosure, I now own 6 of them because of my love for this brand. When I got a white-dial Field Mechanical 38mm, I was hoping it would be better than the older Field Mechanical 2804 which I ended up selling. Well, the dial's legibility is one of my top 3 in my watch collection, the faux patina look works really well to give the watch a classic look, the brushed metal surfaces are perfect for a field watch, the lume is better than my other Hamiltons, and my watch as of writing averages about 0.4 seconds a day!!! The only downside? 50 meters of water resistance, although I personally don't swim while wearing anything other than a G-Shock. Long story short, I don't feel like you can go wrong with any of these pieces, but the Hamilton is the one for you if you want a dependable, rugged piece that will not let you down while putting a big ol' grin on your face.
Marc Cohn all good points . But honestly 50m is kind of a joke these days ... if Hamilton made this watch with 100m and screw down crown I do think it would be the perfect everyday tool watch ... and I would own more than one .... I live on the coast and spend a my leisure time in / on the water . I don’t want to quit wearing my beloved cool watches just because I’m swimming ... tries gshocks hate them.
I like this type of shootout. Three very good choices! I think Damasko DS30 is still just under $1k, but I'd also have to add the MKII Cruxible. Both awesome watches in that range.
The Hamilton's strength is that its handwinding. The Seiko is a tough, cool looking diver. For me, though, the Tissot has an edge because of that next-level movement.
As a 23 year old, I now know what watch I should save up, and that will be the Hamilton H50 Khaki Field. For $500, that's a great value for something so well made that I can own and use for decades. Craftsmanship isn't really popular with Gen Z people. If I get to own the Hamilton H50 in the near future, it would be such a massive leap from trusty $20 Casio analog quartz watches that I've owned and worn for the past 3 years now.
Seiko guy is in love with his wife. Showing such love. Tissot guy is probably deep down secretly tired of his wife. Hamilton guy prefers to be alone. 😂. Just poking fun! Nice video!
Dave Mendoza Bullshit! Look at the damn markers and the chapter ring, also it’s not even a oem Seiko strap, will you mention that fanboy? People like you are the reason I’ve gone from buying 5-6 Seikos a year to 0, you just won’t hold them to anything. There’s no reason for them to improve QC, and since you’ll but anything for any price they are justified tacking on an extra 30% on the msrp. Stop making excuses the export versions of Seiko watches are worse than they’ve EVER BEEN.
The Tissot Gentleman is the best watch on the table. Big respect for both Seiko and the Hami, but the Tissot is by far the most versatile, best designed, technologically most advanced watch on the table.
This definitely could a three piece collection for sure. The Tissot Gentleman with the blue dial and metal bracelet, I feel would have been better than the one featured here, but nonetheless a beautiful watch. As for the Seiko "Turtle", you really can't go wrong with that one. It's just a great beater watch. And the Hamilton has so much history behind it that it is undeniable. Great video guys!
There are numbers of options in under $1000 area. Seiko SARB and Turtle could be an "under $1000" ultimate collection. Or Seiko SARX could be the one and only watch you ever need. If you're OK with 42mm case - Hamilton Interstellar could be a great pick)
You realize a recession is coming when Hodinkee starts talking about under-1k watches
With stocks down 30% worldwide, Hodinkee reckons it might be wiser to compare watches in the lower price segments.
I think when Cole was bragging about the watch being completely in-house, he was hoping that nobody would notice that he swapped out the dust collecting OEM silicon strap for that excellent Uncle Seiko reproduction.
"Tissot Gentleman" is a stupid name, but a killer watch
Sam Clanon indeed, but thankfully the Gentleman marketing tag doesn’t appear on the dial or the caseback.
Yeah, it's a tad "icky", it's not in the least cool I guess. I hope that not it's "heritage" name, I wish sales people weren't so yes-men.
@@bobbydazzler1780 that is key, that could've ruined the watch
Even more cringeworthy is their Luxury Powermatic 80.
@@trevbarlow9719 hah right, I mean the 80hrs pr is okay but meh I would rather have the smoothness tbh pm80 seems like a stepdown but thats my opinion
Cole has the charisma of a Toyota Avensis.
Whilst you have the subtlety of a Hummer.
@@arnaudmeert1527 I've never been known for my subtle nature.
@5L he looks like one.
That Tissot is just drop dead gorgeous! Honestly that Seiko and the Tissot are all you need
I'd love to see this series continue from the ground up:
Comparing Watches Under $2,000
Comparing Watches Under $5,000
Comparing Watches Under $8,000
This is refreshing to see watches that are affordable to the majority. It shows that watch collecting is available to a wide demographic. Thanks!
The Tissot is the correct answer. This Powermatic 80 Silicium movement is insane. Mine runs at Rolex spec of -1 to +1 per day, absolutely mind blown. I’m sure I got very luck, but the quality and finishing of the Tissot, especially when compared to the Hamilton and Seiko, but also compared to any watch under $1000, or even $2000, is much better on the Tissot.
Maybe if my watch came in a -20sec/day I’d feel differently, but I’m absolutely in love with my white dial on bracelet
mido, certina, hamilton and longines are all tiers above tissot and theyre all swatch owned companies. at the 2k level you have oris sinn and others, youre sipping some good kool aid lol
You spend too much time on r/watches
@@gothops154 whats that? I've spent time in wus in the past. Completed 5 watch collection and got out of the watch world for the most part.
Oh forgot, rado above tissot too LMAO
@@datboytalkinrungotellem There's a lot of overlap between Hamilton, Mido and Tissot. Rado and Longines are together at a higher end.
I bought the Tissot a few months ago, as my first mechanical watch. It has the looks I was aiming for (blue dial/leather strap) wears comfortably and has proven to be very accurate. My example runs steadily at +2 s a day. Wish the loom lasted a little longer though.
Seiko guy give me serial killer vibes
"You hear that? That's the sound of the knife slowly entering your kidney."
Seiko - Psycho get it?
American Seiko
What a weirdo
Did you know the guy with the beard stabbed the other two guys right after the filming of this video concluded? Sad.
Guy in the middle out here looking like a creepy ventriloquist's dummy
lmao
I love this type of "conversation table" video! please do more video like this!
"off the radar" dude that Tissot Gentleman has been the talk of the town!
bearded guy talks with the calmness of a psychotic lmao had me uncomfortable
Wow...seiko turtle misaligned chapter ring at six O'clock...
Wei Jia I’d be more surprised if it wasn’t. Seiko’s QC is atrocious and they’re completely tone deaf to customers’ complaints & feedback.
The tissot too
That's part of the charm! 🤣
I think it is just the angle of the camera that makes it look misaligned
I especially like the chapter ring missalignment on the turtle, brings me joy everytime!
I always have fun with people buying Seiko and complaining about how they can't handle the bugs. If you go to the river you get wet. Seiko is the river and all the little QC issiues are the Seiko's charms that get you wet. Be prepared, deal with it it and enjoy. And I am not talking about some serious stuff that happens to any brand just those little unperfections that make Seiko Seiko.
and if the misalignment bothers you so much, it's on of the easiest fixes you can do.
Great discussion. I'm a huge Seiko fan but the Tissot wins the table here for me. The metal hour indicators remind me of a Grand Seiko.
Truthfully a collection of all 3 would be well balanced and quite nice
Hodinkee made a video for the everyman! Love my Khaki King for everyday wearing, but if I could only have one watch for all conditions, the Seiko Turtle wins it.
i think the tissot is a criminally underrated watch. It trades a bit of character, that the others have in spades, for great looks, enourmous versitility (this thing works on all straps from croc to mesh to rubber). While someone with a watch collection would probably see it as basic, for a one wacht collection it's the best one in the vid
I think you've hit the nail on the head: it trades character for versatility and just all-around practicality. I can see someone who just wants an honest reliable timepiece to pick it up.
Have to give two thumbs. First to the Swatch group for bringing to market innovative, well executed, and very affordable watches. Second to the Hodinkee boys for leaving the watch snobbery at the door and sharing with us these great everyman watches.
Of the three, I really like the Tissot (especially on the bracelet), however, more than any previous three-on-three, these really act as three parts of a collection, instead of three truely competing watches.
The Seiko is a great watch, with lots of character and heritage, and is an excellent beater/casual watch. That said, I’ve long felt that Seiko has surrendered its title of “Best Value Auto Diver” to Orient, especially after Orient updated their movements. The Orient Ray II does basically everything the Turtle does for a third of the price, while the new Kamasu even features a sapphire crystal for almost half the Turtles price.
The Hamilton has even more heritage than the Seiko, and an objectively better movement. However, 50M WR is simply not enough for what is supposed to be a field watch. The automatic Khaki Field has 100M WR, and I never understood why the mechanical didn’t.
Finally, the Tissot looks very “reserved” in photos, which is the polite way to say “boring” (however the details definitely help make it more interesting in person). However, it’s definitely the most versatile of the three, and is probably the best boardroom-to-beach watch under $1K. It’s dressy enough to work as a dress watch, yet still features 100M WR, a decent bracelet, and just enough lume to be useful at night; the Si mainspring is simply a bonus.
That said, each of these definitely have a place in a collection, and which is the right choice is as much due to what is already in your collection as anything else.
These watches would actually make a great 3 watch collection.
i agree they are all very different and would be a great collection where you could have some high quality amazing watches without spending crazy crazy money
Ditch the Seiko and it’d be even better!
This felt like Mitt Romney trying to connect with constructions workers. Didn’t work for me.
xD ha ha, spot on.
The Tissot's nice, but it makes me appreciate my SARB035 all the more.
The Tissot smashes the other two!! Tried all 3 of these on in person and it’s not even close.
Just to clarify.. the Hamilton field mechanical isn't quite an homage, given it's a recreation of their OWN field watch that was issued to the US military during Vietnam. To me that's a big difference bc it's not trying to mimic another brands history, it's bringing back it's own! Cheers
Yeah it's more a reissue than a homage
This is awesome
Beard guy is trying too hard to be argumentative. The other two gentlemen correctly seem to just want to engage in a discussion.
I agree. Jack and Jon are very natural in this discussion. Sorry to say it, but Cole very much sounds like he's reading from a script.
Its tricky knowing exactly what the dynamic was. Perhaps he was under the impression that this was to be a provocative segment. Perhaps the other gentlemen were also making similar comments, but they were edited out. Honestly, I think he was just trying to make things more interesting.
I love that Cole looks perpetually skeptical of anything that isn't the Turtle. You can tell he really loves that thing.
My choice for under $1,000: The Tissot one (Tissot Gentleman) is on point. Seiko would be the Baby Alpinist, and Hamilton would be the Khaki Field Auto.
So much better than the "Lifestyle" videos that Hodinkee have recently attempted. Keep them coming.
Tough choice between the Seiko and Hamilton for me :) Great video, missed this format!
im hoping ill buy the tissot gentleman in the future. looks lovely also quite minimalistic
I have a Tissot Gentleman, in addition to others, and enjoy it very much. They only reason why I'd get a Hamilton is because I like they style of the field watch and don't have one.
I have the Seiko. The old kinetic one. It’s actually gone through a windshield during a crash and still works.
I have the Seiko Kinetic diver too,have it years now.
I changed the rubber strap once,a great tip I think is to regularly wet it.I wear it in the shower once or twice a week,take it off when it’s good and wet and put it on again when getting dressed.It saves the watch getting brittle and perished.
It’s my daily,it’s reliable and it looks good to.Never any issues with it.
i love the guy with the seiko lol confidence is great
Alien Hatz: A Seiko Turtle makes it easy.
I loved the gentlemanly debate as much as the watches themselves. Can we get these same gents back with, say, their favourite vegetables.
If Duncan Hines makes veggies, then, SHO NUFF!
The guy with the Seiko is the only true believer.
He really looks like he's in love with the Turtle when he talks about it !
Great watch talk! Winner for me is the Tissot...Beautiful and sharp. I have to say I am partial to dress watches. But these were all so different, you can see the strengths in all three. And each presentation was incredibly done. I learned so much about each one. Thanks.
They should rename the video to: "Three On Three: Comparing Watches Under $1,000 ... that are on Hodinkee's client list."
You might be right, but I dont feel that the selection was bad. Sure one could always claim that this and that model should have been there, but in the end not a bad selection really.
thats correct..but they should have name the title..watch under $600 instead...
I’ve got that exact same Tissot. Just to add, the ETA movement is out performing my new generation Rolex 3235 Datejust 41 and old generation 3135 Rolex Submariner, returning a staggering +2s per week and a ridiculous power reserve of easily 80 hours. The Tissot has an under the radar everyday appeal, just gets the job done and gives enough twinkle under strong lighting with great legibility and easy fit and forget wearability. So you’re getting sub COSC performance at a bang for the buck price. Just goes to show, these days you can buy a solid reliable good looking mechanical Swiss watch without breaking the bank. That black dial version is the best integrated design for me with the black date wheel and a cool subtle sunburst dial that hides away under all but the most strong lighting hence looks like a quality piece. Much more than the sum of its parts, Bravo Tissot, seems the sexy silicon tech is trickling down from the more mighty Swatch sub brands. Great three way review guys some excellent choices.
I have a blue dial gentleman and about 10 other watches, including Maurice Lacroix, Seiko, Omega Aqua Terra, other Tissots, and got the Gentleman as an everyday wear. It doesn't disappoint. There is almost no outfit or situation where it doesn't fit.
matthew hoover nice one. I’ve only seen the blue in quartz and it looked like a great dark hue with a nice sunburst effect bringing it to life in the sunshine. I went for the all black as I have three blue dials and only two other black dial watches. The blue is cool and even the silver sunburst is a fresh looking summery watch. Handsome masculine no nonsense timeless design, great everyday piece for the workplace rotation. But the accuracy has blown me away the most. Quite gutted that it makes my Rolex watches look like slouches, and the new gen Rolex movements are good for +7s per week.
Tissot Powermatic is the most accurate than the other two.
I like it. Hodinkee has by now become famous for referring to 5000 dollar watches as "affordable" and "entry level" and to an extent distancing themselves from the every day consumer. But their audience is much wider than that.
Manny Calavera unfortunately they did that a long time ago. Every host they have is a great name and an interesting celeb in their own right but they all only show us patek , Rolex and of course AP. It’s not for regular ppl who can’t go above $1k.
I really enjoy this three-on-three series and hope you revive it. Good video and three excellent choices.
Easy! Hamilton for everyday, Seiko for sport and Tissot for dress...😊
i agree !
x3
I agree too
That seiko really looks beautiful, with that in house built movement and superb water resistance, properly built tough as nails tool watch, really can't go wrong. Except that the watch case is a little too large to my liking but if you think of it as a very legible tool watch, 44 mm isn't that bad.
In house movements doesn't automatically make the movement any better. Cheap Seiko movements are infamous for poor accuracy. The 4R36 discussed in the video and the one you're referencing; has a measured accuracy of +45 to -35 seconds a day. That's not impressive at all. A decent ETA movement is a better movement, in-house or not. Period.
the tissot is very well balanced
I’d gladly wear any of them. I’ve been thinking about the Hamilton for a while. That Tisso is really nice.
6:22 all the parts are made by Seiko yet they still can’t get markings to line up 🙄
gothops154 THANK YOU! it’s awful.
That's a good point.
I have Seiko Turtle SRPA21 PADI edition. For the movement, I think it doesn`t require any maintenance. Because it is not just practical. Cost of maintenance is at least 1/3 price of the watch. If anything happens you can replace the movement. It is cheaper than cost of regular maintenance. Moreover, movement is very reliable. On paper hardlex may appear to be a downside but in practical usage i really like it a lot. It is clear, very thin, no optical illusions on the edges, it does the job. Also, bezel protects the glass quite nice. I am very happy with my Turtle. You need to try the Turtle on your wrist you may change your idea.
I considered that Hamilton but I heard fogging issues in khaki series. Tissot has great movement but it looks soulless. Design is so subtle. I prefer Seiko Presage series with fancy dials over that Tissot.
The misalignment on the Seiko dial, chapter ring and bezel insert makes it definitively the most iconic across all three.
I got my used Longines Hydroconquest 39mm for 570 bucks, pretty great condition too. For my money, you can't beat that!
The seiko is too clunky and ugly....I'd take the Hamilton
I have the Seiko Turtle and I love it. I will say though that the Hamilton is so thin and elegant that I can't help but admire it. I definitely would like to add the Hamilton to my collection.
I love the Tissot Gentleman, my next watch.
I hope you guys do more of these reasonable price-point episodes. Seems like its always $10,000 watches for 'Three on Three'.
Bravo! Most people cannot afford the watches you make videos about, which suggests that watch collecting is for rich snobs who can buy timepieces that are the price of cars. I’m impressed that Hodinkee has finally made a video about watches that are more affordable for people, and did it in a way that honored and gave credit to less prestigious brands. Great video!
TBF Seiko makes the most accurate watches out of the ones featured... and in the world. Spring Drive has +- one second a day, to a Superlative Chronometer's +- 2.
Seiko it’s going to get my vote. Tissot is the nicest looking though.
For a grand you can nearly get a Sinn 556. It would have the field watch aesthetic of the Hamilton in A form, the dress watch aesthetic of the Tissot in I form, but the water resistance of the Seiko, and the anti-magnetism and build quality beyond all three combined - plus a date window and decent steel bracelet and ornamented display caseback. It would basically be all 2 or 3 of these watches in one and still be within their budget. But I agree all three of these watches are great values even at their price points.
Please give this man $1,000 in beer
Had 2 of the other watches in this video. Sold them both and got the 556i. Perfect everyday tool watch for me
This is honestly one of my favorite Hodinkee videos period. What a pleasure it is.
I'd take the Seiko, then the Hamilton, and then the Tissot Gentleman.
No hate against Tissot per se, but I think the Visodate is a much better watch at that price range.
Why, why, WHY, can Seiko not seem to align their chapter rings or bezels? If my $40 Casio Duro can be aligned, I KNOW Seiko can do it. It’s purely unacceptable on a watch of this price. Seiko should be ashamed that they let these small QC issues go on and on for years.
That´s a very issue! i´m agree with you.
David Lund That’s how you know it’s an authentic Seiko product.
7:00 he's not joking guys, it's a warning
The tissot has a great movement and very classy with its applied indices. A step above the other two IMHO, but also more expensive to reflect that. And a 100m WR, it is the watch to rule them all really.
Love the hamilton for its authentic field watch homage - would make a great daily watch - especially if you're a vet and have that link.
The seiko great for daily sports and watersport watch but the aesthetics are functional - a great tool watch.
Whatever best suits your purpose I thinl with this three. I'd wear any of them.
The seiko wins for me in house movement all made in the one factory and it looks amazing
I feel, the SARB ones even tho discontinued would've been a better option here... or SARX/SARK series
Great debate. Great watch choices. Seiko for me.
Excellent discussion!
I'm with Cole and his support of the Seiko Turtle, but these are all tremendous choices.
I could have done without Mr. Pennington’s competitiveness.
I don’t watch these videos to see who might win,
and I’m quite sure that competition is not what these videos are about - at all.
That said, I’m impressed with all three watches.
I’m also enamored of the idea of being a one-watch guy,
which led me to purchase a Seiko SARB035 in 2016 ($332, from Amazon).
This is my GADA watch. I wear it every single day, no matter what I’m doing.
It’s not the best timekeeper, though.
It loses between about 42s/d to about 62s/d, so I have to set it twice a day
- even after an overhaul eleven months ago.
And it makes my timegrapher look like a snow-filled sky (not good).
Here’s the thing about this watch: I can’t stop looking at it.
It’s gorgeous. And it works for everything I wear on a daily basis.
It’s great for a tightwad like me who doesn’t have money to toss into a fireplace.
Having said that, I might still wind up with a Stowa Antea KS 35.5mm (silver)
and a Zenith El Primero Original 1969. They are both classics with interesting history and class.
I would love to see you gentlemen cover The Stowa Antea KS.
I must say, I for one enjoyed Mrl Pennington's repartee. There's no accounting for taste .
Tom Faranda,
Yes, there is no accounting for taste.
Junior High School comes to mind.
Why do I get the impression these guys are like supervillains revealing their new inventions of destruction to each other, vying for the most dastardly.
got a turtle srp789 for my 18th birthday; I've worn it every day since. Fantastic watch.
Great... now you got 3 years to save up for your rolex.
Recently picked up the Hamilton Khaki Field mechanical watch with date function.. I picked the olive green dial as at times the dial looks black, other times grey, and other times olive green. One of best “value” watch out there. Hard to find a better watch at this price point!
I got my Khaki for £250. It gets the most wrist time at the moment, due to how it wears and the charm it offers. Like the more affordable content.
why did u bring turtle instead of baby MM 200m dude???? why???
The seiko turtle is a watch that I will always own. Such an icon and a really meaningful piece for me.
misaligned
Fan Di I personally have never had any misalignment issues. As long as you buy from a good seller (not amazon) you should be fine.
Sylas Schmidt thanks for the reply. I bought quite a few, they all have misalignments. Now I only kept my sarb017, still misaligned. So I would say you got lucky.
The turtle in the video is misaligned too.
Fan Di maybe I am just lucky. I’ve bought from LongIslandwatch.com Mark is a reliable seller, at least in my experience.
I'm going to have some fun with this one. I've had 2 out of the 3 watches from here, sold one and kept the other.
The Turtle, of which I owned an SRP775, is an excellent piece if you want something a bit beefier than an SKX and with some more history to it. I got one, modified it with a sapphire crystal and lumed sapphire bezel insert, but ultimately ended up selling it. Why? Well, the piece actually fit my 5.75 inch wrist rather well, but the size is noticeable when you have to be even more careful than usual trying to go through doorways for instance. It is not a bad watch at all, but I don't regret selling mine. I do question, however, why Hodinkee didn't include the King Turtle in this review rather than the standard one? It's about $595 for one with a rubber strap, and it comes with features like a ceramic bezel and sapphire crystal that people have been begging Seiko to include for years.
The Tissot? Haven't owned one or held one in person, but there are a couple of problems I have with it. First off, I've heard from many sources about their regulation being a bit off considering the Powermatic 80 is capable of some amazing accuracy for the $$. If I'm paying $725 for a watch, I'm not expecting a COSC certificate but anything within +5/-5 would be excellent. +10/-10 or more? Rather disappointing... Second, why do the models with metal bracelets have a silicon balance spring and 100M WR, and then have a deployant clasp versus one with microadjustments? Why? Is this supposed to be a dress/business watch, or a sports watch? Feels like a bit of an identity crisis... It simply does nothing for me.
Last but not least, the Hamilton. Full disclosure, I now own 6 of them because of my love for this brand. When I got a white-dial Field Mechanical 38mm, I was hoping it would be better than the older Field Mechanical 2804 which I ended up selling. Well, the dial's legibility is one of my top 3 in my watch collection, the faux patina look works really well to give the watch a classic look, the brushed metal surfaces are perfect for a field watch, the lume is better than my other Hamiltons, and my watch as of writing averages about 0.4 seconds a day!!! The only downside? 50 meters of water resistance, although I personally don't swim while wearing anything other than a G-Shock.
Long story short, I don't feel like you can go wrong with any of these pieces, but the Hamilton is the one for you if you want a dependable, rugged piece that will not let you down while putting a big ol' grin on your face.
Marc Cohn all good points . But honestly 50m is kind of a joke these days ... if Hamilton made this watch with 100m and screw down crown I do think it would be the perfect everyday tool watch ... and I would own more than one .... I live on the coast and spend a my leisure time in / on the water . I don’t want to quit wearing my beloved cool watches just because I’m swimming ... tries gshocks hate them.
This was the video that made me purchase the SRP777.
Feels like a great 3 watch collection!!
Seiko fans are the crossfitters of the watch universe.
I enjoyed the shit out of this. Nice to see some casual talk about accessible watches from y'all.
Hard to choose, but all three would make a decent three watch collection.
I‘d pick the Hamilton :) great field watch for 1/8 of the price of a IWC 🙏🏼
More of this video please Hondinkee. Love it
I like this type of shootout. Three very good choices! I think Damasko DS30 is still just under $1k, but I'd also have to add the MKII Cruxible. Both awesome watches in that range.
I would like one of each. No surprise here - great job.
The misalignment at 6 o'clock bothers me. You know which one.
Yeah. Gonna sell a watch, that matters
The Hamilton's strength is that its handwinding. The Seiko is a tough, cool looking diver. For me, though, the Tissot has an edge because of that next-level movement.
Agreed! Hard to pick one when they all have such a great quality.
Just look at that guys expression when the seiko guy says half a month rent lol
As a 23 year old, I now know what watch I should save up, and that will be the Hamilton H50 Khaki Field. For $500, that's a great value for something so well made that I can own and use for decades. Craftsmanship isn't really popular with Gen Z people.
If I get to own the Hamilton H50 in the near future, it would be such a massive leap from trusty $20 Casio analog quartz watches that I've owned and worn for the past 3 years now.
Watch out for the glare of the crystal
Seiko guy is in love with his wife. Showing such love.
Tissot guy is probably deep down secretly tired of his wife.
Hamilton guy prefers to be alone.
😂. Just poking fun! Nice video!
I like how the seiko's chapter ring is misaligned :)
Dave Mendoza Bullshit! Look at the damn markers and the chapter ring, also it’s not even a oem Seiko strap, will you mention that fanboy? People like you are the reason I’ve gone from buying 5-6 Seikos a year to 0, you just won’t hold them to anything. There’s no reason for them to improve QC, and since you’ll but anything for any price they are justified tacking on an extra 30% on the msrp. Stop making excuses the export versions of Seiko watches are worse than they’ve EVER BEEN.
Dave Mendoza no, it is litterally tilted clockwise.
Good video....but Cole....seems like he is trying to hard to he suave...and it's coming off as kind of snobby.
The Tissot Gentleman is the best watch on the table. Big respect for both Seiko and the Hami, but the Tissot is by far the most versatile, best designed, technologically most advanced watch on the table.
Tissot is the real bargain there. Its design is simple, exposed caliber, great power reserve and you can say you wear a Swiss watch
to me, thats a perfect alternative if you love the Rolex explorer and can't afford it atm.
The power reserve is a HUGE bonus. And the blue version is gorgeous. The only issue is the 21mm lug width.
Would make for a good 3 watch collection 😜
That’s the sound of the best watch on the table! 👊
This definitely could a three piece collection for sure. The Tissot Gentleman with the blue dial and metal bracelet, I feel would have been better than the one featured here, but nonetheless a beautiful watch. As for the Seiko "Turtle", you really can't go wrong with that one. It's just a great beater watch. And the Hamilton has so much history behind it that it is undeniable. Great video guys!
There are numbers of options in under $1000 area. Seiko SARB and Turtle could be an "under $1000" ultimate collection. Or Seiko SARX could be the one and only watch you ever need. If you're OK with 42mm case - Hamilton Interstellar could be a great pick)