No Firearms For Anyone | The Thin Blue Line
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- Inspector Grim is upset that Fowler won't approve firearms for the chief todger of his lodge
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Welcome to The Thin Blue Line official youtube channel. In this classic police sitcom, Rowan Atkinson plays Inspector Fowler, head of the Uniformed Branch of the fictional Gasforth police station. Fowler is constantly in battle of wits with DI Grim and the Criminal Investigation Department. Created by Ben Elton, the series aired from 1995 to 1996. - ตลก
Interesting to note Rowan Atkinson's style here; the facial expressions and body language of Mr. Bean, yet the language and laconism of Edmund Blackadder.
the best of both.
@Angulimal Kasture Alas, our children will never get that level of education here in the USA.
This series is criminally underrated.
Ha! Pun!
They should be locked up then for fannying about!
Very punny :) it also showed a lot of serious issues taken serously by Atkinson using humour as a foil.
I miss his more serous work.
💯
😂
“Only god or a large bag could do that”
I’m living for the day I can get to say this to someone.
same
@MichaelKingsfordGray calm down man I just liked the insult nothing more, I mean Rowan Atkinson is a atheist and he said it so I don't see how me saying it makes me a instant gun wielding zealot .
You can say it when someone is buying a lot of stuff from a shop and thinks they can fit it in a bag that isn't big enough
I am willing to settle for responding to "Are you trying to make me look stupid?" with "I don't have to", but so far.. no luck.
@MichaelKingsfordGray *fedora tipping intensifies*
This comedy was crammed with talented comedy actors.
Next to Atkinson, David Haig was hilarious as Grim.
I liked Grim as well the way he messed his words up and his quotes about his jod being on the line, and his hoity toity nambi pampi moments.
"CRUISE MISSILE PERMIT" HAHAHAHHAA ELK SEEKING MISSILE
This is a seriously underrated show. Ben Elton’s writing is top notch and RA as brilliant as always. His facial expressions say more than a thousand words.
If Rowan Atkinson wrote the insults, he is a grandmaster in insults.
Nghaka Beita I suspect it was Ben Elton, they have a Ben Elton rhythm to them like Blackadder and Upstart Crow
@@vaudevillian7, I didn't know about that
Yep, Ben Elton wrote the show
@Marshall Carwood you are absolutely right. The jokes are brilliant, however, I would also like to point out that, the joke is as good as you presented it to be. In this case, Rowan Atkinson did a marvelous job.
@Marshall Carwood Disagree that it was shite, but certainly a little more homogeous and predictable. Stick with it; it grows on you.
This is a UK vs USA mindset
UK mindset has always been to keep the working class man down. And to allow a favorite group to do as they please.
@@bighands69 just like every other country then?
@@Trancequill And even more so in America, bail system there is literally a get out of jail free card
@@bighands69 A working class man with a hunting rifle would last exactly 0.5 seconds against a trained soldier, or a tank, or an Apache gunship. So it has nothing to do with keeping the working class man down, but rather protecting the rest of us from a criminally insane working class man armed with a gun. Dunblane anyone?
@@TheAngrySaxon1 Most of the people who want guns are the last who should be allowed to have them.
😂🤣😂 When you look at how unwired Grimm is I wouldn’t trust him or his Chief Todger with a butter knife let alone a gun.
The arrogant a$$holes who think their opinions somehow supersede the rights of others are society's major problem, not the ones who refuse to be a victim of crime. That would include women, who are unable to fend off stronger men intent on physical harm or much worse, rape. Clowns like you don't get to remove a citizen's RIGHT to defend themselves. IDIOT
@@hav2win so it took a year to come up with this bullshit let me guess you’re Mecian and part of the reason why weekly we in the rest of the world see your gun massacres. Back in the day I happened to train shooters and also security guards and so I do have a bit of knowledge when it comes to who is suitable to carry a firearm. Being Aussie I’ve seen the outcome several times over the years where the wrong wack job was given the right to carry firearms. I maybe an arsehole but I’d sooner be one than allow some inbred hillbilly to carry a gun simply because they think it’s their right to. Just so you know to just because you carry a gun doesn’t mean you’re not going to get raped or even killed it’s only delusional arse clowns like you who believe that bullshit.
There's some Rowan in every character he portrays gotta love him a national comedic treasure!
The Chief todger of my lodge. The Brits are so damn funny. I'm going to start calling mine that.
I think he’s talking about the masons
@@tedhudson2467 As 'todger' is an anatomical slang term
He may equally well be talking about Penises.
"talking about gun control in a tv show? Are the brits mad or something?" -- A guy from across the ocean
Inspector Grimm is the best part of the show.
I love these shows. It’s a truly brilliant series. It was a truly fantastic time for British comedy.
It seems that everytime I listen to a Rowan Atkinson sketch, my political views are altered more than they are after having a deep political discussion with someone smarter than me
IF the other person was smarter than you, why would they be having a political conversation with you?
"This town is a human nest. If you were an ant, would you consider it a matter of hymenopterous civil liberties that a socially dysfunctional worker ant be allowed to keep a pet anteater?"
"If it was securely muzzled and tethered, yes I would."
"Then clearly you are quite mad Grim"
Grim is my best character in this sitcom. Perpetually angry! 😂😂😂
He is, isnt he 😄
I love the juxtaposition of Inspector Fowler and D.I Grim!
"Elk seeking missile"
Oh I'm dying
I command you to live
Recently binge watched this on TH-cam, what an underrated show
I'm afraid most people are too stupid to get the jokes in this comedy series. It's not popular because the jokes are too clever for majority
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Good Lord. Its UK vs US
BakPak Gaming and that’s your kids are getting killed
Not really: there are plenty of people on BOTH sides of this issue on BOTH sides of the Atlantic.
Nope. There is right to own a firearm in the UK subject to statutory conditions. The Joke here is apparently is that it is OK to turn down every application regardless of its merits if the police disagree with that law. I doubt the social justice warriors here would see the joke if it were a law they cared about.
@@-M0LE no, those are the gang members killing each other, with or without permits
Grover what about the schools?
Man who doesn't wanna be a wizard because it's too powerful, is exactly the person who should be a wizard!
Jack Reid albus dumbledore?
Exactly. Anyone who wants power is exactly the wrong sort of person to be given it.
Matthew Marden So any country in the world as of this time. People who want power are not always the bad ones. The ones who can’t control power, or will purposely abuse it are the bad ones. You going to work for another job because it gives you more money is essentially they same thing as gaining power. So are you a bad person, should you not be given a raise when getting a promotion?
@@GoranXII I dont agree, it's more like people who want power for the sake of power are the wrong ones to have it. There are people who want power because there is just a lot they want to change for the better, and they think they are the person to do it. unfortunately with how politics is these days people feel the need to lie their way to power, which results in disingenuous people in power that shouldnt be.
@@xanderwusky3001 The people who 'want to make changes for the better' are often worse than those who want power for the sake of having power. The former gives you the Nazis, the Bolsheviks, etc.
Love this scene! One of my favourite shows! Sadly underrated!
The hard work of writers and actors is so out of this world. They make it look so easy.
THIS SHOW IS TOO UNDER THE RADAR
ALL CHARACTERS ARE GREAT
Is there such a thing as an *Elk Seeking Missile* & if so, where can I get one??
These flippin Elks are ruining my flower garden!!
They don't bother my flowers, but they are annoying when they bugle. It's majestic the first dozen times or so, then it's like a neighbor who loves practicing a trombone in his yard.
@@jasonpatterson8091 Speaking as a guy with a back yard, an early start to his day, and a quick way to score a trombone - you've just made me a very happy bloke with some soon-to-be lifelong enemies.
Not recommended, trust me, after using one of them you are going to be picking up elk bits for YEARS!.
OH MY GOD!!! Its so real!!!! This is exactly what its like talking to the firearms branch in my country
The episode that introduced me to the series itself, a classic 😂
Oh... Is that a truncheon in your pocket? Or are you just pleased to see me!? ****Smooch****
****Fumbles around a bit in his pockets**** Actually it's a Mars bar...
" Tell him to go and by some plimsoles" ..Thank you 👍😁
When I was kid I would not have found this nearly as funny, but now I find this hilarious :-)
I used to watch it as a teenager: it was hilarious back then, and still makes me LOL today 😆
When you get over about 12 this kind of stuff gets very funny. Then as you get older and older and wiser you find it even more funny and sadly tragic.
0:25 that one look was worth a thousand words.
This guy is the reason all of us watching his fanying about he is so good every thing I see him in is really good
The fella with the tache made this show I thought, hilarious!
Back around the time this program was made, maybe a little earlier, the chief constable of Essex was notorious in the shooting community for being deliberately obstructive to applications for a firearms certificate and imposing security conditions on shotgun licence holders which he had no legal right to do. I believe he was finally forced to administer gun licencing as the law demanded when somebody went to the high court to get an order that he stop fucking about or face contempt charges.
Although there's no actual right to a firearms licence in the UK a refusal still has to be on reasonable grounds which are either no legitimate need or a risk to public safety. Shotgun certificates are a 'shall issue' licence as long as the applicant is not an ex-con, mentally unstable or otherwise dangerous. If the police refuse an FAC or SGC without valid cause the decision can be appealed to the courts.
In any event... Inspector Fowler is a comedy character but even a fictional local inspector would not issue licences for firearms. It's done by a dedicated firearms licencing officer, who may even be a civilian, acting on the authority of the chief inspector of the relevant constabulary.
Just sayin'.
Cheers for the context.
1:18 and 1:54 are the key parts
@@CityWhisperer Haha okay, soyboi. Even if you were right, the point is that not giving them out needs to be on reasonable grounds. Neither of those are reasonable.
This is an interesting bit of history. Thanks
@G W Not at all. Parliament has decided what the law is on the ownership of firearms and the police are tasked with enforcing it not with extending it. If you have a legal right to do something the opinion of the chief constable of the area you live in is neither here nor there.
Should of made Lot more shows, awesome cast !😊
Genius. Pure and simple.
Its still as great as when i used to watch the series on bbc back in the day. Wonderful comedy complemented by ace actors aka legends.
It’s so weird how this rlly funny comedy actually delves into a lot of social issues/problems and how it effects/effected by the police
Oh look, it's Steve Fleming
He's gonna take you down, he's gonna take you down to FUNKYTOWN.
Nah. It's Bill Pargrave.
Simply wonderful
Why do I get the feeling this is America vs the rest of the world?
man, this guy's logic is flawless
Man I wish they bring this back for another season.
25 years later?
Classic, brilliant stuff
Then buy him a pair of plimsolls.
"No more, no less" as if there could be less 😂😂🤣🤣
Opposite ends of the spectrum.
Thin Blue Line
Line of Duty
both are great shows
Ronan Atkinson is one of the best and grim with him makes me laugh and the mr bean luck his gives grim makes it so funny ❤
Bloody right good way to start your morning ya uk all day
1:50 what does he call him? "You are denying my ... his rights" todger?
"You are denying my todger his rights." Todger being slang for one's penis, but in this context also referring to the head of his group. (In case you're unfamiliar with British slang, forgive the presumption that you may be unfamiliar, given that you couldn't make out the word easily.)
thanks. i did hear todger. it's just that any search for a translation only yielded "penis", so i presumed that i've misheard it.
Yeah, todger is a penis joke, but they're also mocking a fake masonic lodge and saying that's the head of the lodge's name as well.
RKBock It’s a running joke in the show that the character says dirty things by accident.
Bruv 😂 this is my favourite series even in 2019 I watch it
I loved this show so hard
I will take you down, take you down to funky town!
If the individual only has the rights allowed by the community, what rights does the individual really have? Pretty much none, really. Nobody has ever had to struggle for the right to pet a puppy or agree with the government.
Reminds me of a few court cases I've heard of in the UK where people have been sent to jail for carrying pocket tools. The burden of proof is on the accused to show that they weren't planning on murdering somebody, someday, SOMEHOW, with a pocket tool.
I need to find this series. NEED to find this series.
The high seas...
Wonderful 💜
Steve Fleming vs Mr. Bean
Rowan Atkinson has two characters he usually plays, the wit, and the halfwit. While the imbecilic Mr. Bean is much more well known in the States, his most brilliant work is when he is the smart one and everyone else are the idiots. I would strongly advise you to look at the fourth season of Blackadder, and yes, that is a very young Dr. House. Hugh Laurie learned how to be smarter than everyone and sassy about it from Rowan Atkinson.
He looks like a Lego policeman
@@jesseberg3271 It kills me that Mr.Bean is Rowans most famous role. He is a great writer and performer yet people know him mostly as a mute idiot.
@@jesseberg3271 That's an excellent summary!
A Guy or Super Mario
Only god or a large paper bag
I love it comedy genius
I appreciate the honesty of this. This is what advocates of gun control actually believe in and want.
Very sane people. One only has to look at stats
@@epincion What stats would those be?
@@redrackham6812 There are a lot, but here is a US academic study.
www.amjmed.com/article/S0002-9343(15)01030-X/pdf
Indeed. Although don't want to admit it.
Continually trying to impress and reassure upon gun owners that all they simply want to do is licence, regulate and control guns (didn't a lot of nice things in history just start out in such an innocuous way?) for 'the safety of the community' of which they presume, and are somehow especially qualified to, to speak for. Yes control guns, but what guns and who for and by whom isn't always made abundantly clear, rather than ban them entirely (with the exception of semi-automatic rifles 'which nobody needs to have except the military and police') although one does get the uneasy sense that they, the 'gun controllers', would not hesitate to institute or support a ban were such an option possible eg. the question put to the populace as was the case with Brazil in 2005.
@@epincion Very dishonest people, if that's how they use statistics. The fact is, approximately two-thirds of gun deaths in the US are suicides: lawcenter.giffords.org/facts/gun-violence-statistics/. Now, of course, a suicide is a terrible tragedy. But the fact is, the US suicide rate is pretty typical for a developed Western country, higher than some, lower than others: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate. In other words, gun control doesn't prevent suicide; people just commit suicide in other ways. And on top of all that, there is a clear trend that when gun control has been imposed or significantly tightened in other countries, the homicide rate has risen: crimeresearch.org/2016/04/murder-and-homicide-rates-before-and-after-gun-bans/.
So underrated this show 😸🤘
At face value - guns are dangerous
At deeper value - the police can curb individual rights if they feel it is not accommodative of society as a whole
Guns *are* dangerous
The thugs have guns.
Surely NOT having guns is then the most dangerous option?
Its honestly one of the bigger fears of gun rights advocates in america. If some gun hating schmuck gets to decide who is allowed to own a gun, nobody is allowed and the constitution is being violated. Its been done before, where law enforcement in various cities/states demands you prove you absolutely need one (because thats how rights work, yes? You have to prove you have something important to say before the government lets you speak?) then denies the permit anyways. Because clearly if you are in a situation where you feel you need a gun to protect yourself, you are not mentally fit to be trusted with a gun. Circular logic at its finest.
@@babboon5764 Nope. Because criminals, being criminals, aren't going to give their victims the opportunity to have a fair fight.
Do you know the statistics for number of lives successfully saved by a 'good guy' pulling out a gun?
They're in the negative, because more often than not the bad guy will shoot the person trying to pull a gun on them rather than let them complete the act and get a shot off and also frequently (especially if the good guy in question isn't white) the police will shoot the good guy who is just trying to defend himself, because they were called to an incident of an armed man threatening people and they've just encountered an armed man who (because *he* knows he's not who the police are after and tries to explain that to them) doesn't immediately surrender when ordered.
@@RvEijndhoven That's a cogent argument for being very cautious in allowing idiots to have guns.
They don't bother to learn how to use them effectively or wisely, nor do they bother to learn how to respond to the Police presence which will turn up. ................. That's Darwinian selection at work.
But I am *not* an idiot. Why should I be placed at risk to provide small safeguard for their safety?
Given opportunity to lawfuly own a gun I will make damn sure I get as expert & informed as possible as swiftly as possible.
Hell it would hardly be beyong the wit of man and require prospective owners to complete a traing course would it?
@@RvEijndhoven bs statistic
There are 60,000 to 2.5 million defensive uses of firearms in the us each year, depending on how each area defines the term.
In the US, gun-nuts would be screaming in pain at the sensible arguments given by Fowler.
This American loves Fowler’s attitude towards guns.
sorry i cannot hear you over all the stabbings and machete attacks over there
@@megazero952 The usual, irrelevant response from a gun-loving MAGgot.
But, sorry about your 'little problem."
1:14 he sounded like hitler right there
Collective > individual
Its police breaking the law themselves and everyone is acting like its a good thing
It's police exercising the discretionary power afforded to them by the law, and everyone is acting like it's a normal thing.
It isn't. One is attempting to and another is stopping him. The law is upheld.
@@jaquesravalec242 Except the law says they HAVE to grant you the permits, unless they have a reason not to - grounds for that reasom being previous criminality, being a drug addict, or having mental problems. None of that is mentioned here. The police here is LITERALLY breaking the law. Someone's already mentioned that you can go to court and attack their decision, and win quite a settlement.
@@horvathbenedek3596 Are you serious? This isn't a documentary. It's a comedy from twenty five years ago set in the UK.
@@jaquesravalec242 Art imitates life. The writers of this scene were clearly taking a moral and political stance.
USA v UK on gun rights!
Honestly, people who are a member of a hate group, be it right or left, such as the KKK, should never have a license to own guns.
It appears that on some occasions having a firearm is absolutely necessary. If I currently lived in the USA, I'd be arming myself to the back teeth.
@@ElBandito I think it's already illegal for members of groups designated as terrorist organizations like the KKK (or Antifa, hopefully). There's no official designation of "hate group", and even if there were, "hate" is far too ambiguous and subjective a basis upon which to deny someone a right. Imagine a president arguing that a group that hates him is a hate group and therefore must be disarmed.
@@PrezVeto KKK has not been designated as terrorist group. In fact, no domestic group can be classified as such. I also do not think Washington has passed any bill stripping KKK members off of their firearms.
@@PrezVeto Antifa is not a terrorist organization. It's not even an organization at all.
I had no idea I would find a pair of Englishmen arguing like Americans.
I'm doubtful they were
No one was shot
@@babboon5764 Yeah. They'd just offer up tea and exchange strong words, or even rude language.
wow. The American version would be a lot different.
"Can my mate have a gun"
"sure, i don't see why not"
The End
"I consider the rights of the individual secondary to the rights of the community."
Socialism in a nutshell.
@@jintarokensei3308
So, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one?
Sounds familiar...
@@DomWeasel there's a pretty big difference between needs and rights tho
@@jintarokensei3308
I need to eat.
It's not my right to have a steak anytime I want one, cooked by a master chef.
Not everything you don’t like is Socialism
Honestly, Grim always struck me as a gun control freak kind of person. I'm surprised he's not on board with Raymond on this.
Police officers in the US with rifles on their motorcycles: *scratches head with glock* "dicky doo dah?"
The hazards of "may issue."
In the UK shotgun certificates are 'shall issue' unless there's a valid reason not to which means either a criminal record, mental instability or 'being of intemperate habit'.. A drunk.
Firearms Certificates are slightly harder to get but if an applicant meets the legal requirements of being a moderately upstanding citizen with adequate security and a valid 'good reason' they cannot legally be refused a certificate.
Effectively the UK is a 'shall issue' country. If you meet the requirements for a licence and you are refused you go to court and the court orders the chief constable to issue the licence.
There are Home Office and ACPO guidance that make it very clear to local firearms licencing officers that refusal of a licence to somebody who is entitled to one won't stand up in court and should be avoided.
@@xxxggthyf and it's that "good reason" bit that I would say happens to be the most important.
@@RAFMnBgaming joining a gun club or having acess to land is good reason
@@geezerp1982 I have access to a dirt lane down the side of my house to get cars into my back garage. Does that mean I have good reason to have a gun?
@@RAFMnBgaming the land has suitable for firearm use ie assessed by the firearms department !
just join a gun club, then you have good reason then the chief of police MUST issue a cerficate subject to you passing the criminal background check
If Zazu from lion king was a cop 🤣🤣
Or Mr Bean
@@mushroomhead3619 or Blackadder
Grim was awesome!
Oh this guy was on Killing Eve. I knew I had seen him before.
Do I dare look into the comment sec-OHDEARLORD!
Bloody americans.
Anglomachian Yea... looks like we have a dude who hates people simply for their nationality.
@@lightshow366 I can criticise something without hating it.
Anglomachian Bloody Americans... sounds like you dislike Americans? In what way does this sound like criticism, and not an insult.
@@lightshow366 If someone says something stupid, and I insult them for it, that's a chastisment. It says nothing about my feelings towards them other than that I think they said something stupid.
So when an entire comment section is laden with Americans whining endlessly about their hard-on for guns, yeah, I insult those specific Americans for it.
Could you try maybe not to be so butt hurt about nothing and stop trying to manufacture an argument.
Given the context of the post and the video and the outburst at the end...I laughed waaaay too hard at the potential implication and black comedy joke. Oh I'm probably going to hell now. Worth it.
People in America should watch this.
While I'm in support of personal firearms, he did make a few vaild points
Unfortunately he made far more wild baseless accusations. Tends to drown out any small points he may have.
Silver, bronze, paint
Spears and arrows never kill an animal straight away. They can only weaken and slow prey in order for a hunter to deliver the coup de grace. Not so with rifles and ammo designed for the particular prey used by a skilled hunter.
that not the point... if you want to pit your self against the prey do it like our ancestors did.. not with a high powered rifle. the animal has no chance
Our ancestors didn't do it to pit themselves against the prey. It was a matter of life and death. Had they had access to modern hunting rifles that can kill prey quickly and easily then they would have used them
@@benglasspool2166 and so the argument of sport is completely invalid either way
And yes people did hunt for sport in ancient times, after all not everyone was poor and starving
@@thecrow7 That sounds like gatekeeping others' idea of sport. I suppose once we evolve the ability to hear and smell like a deer it should be fair on us. Or should I grab my horn, retinue of hunters and my hounds because that's more sportsmanlike?
Arrows kill plenty of animals large and small. Its why we have a bow hunting season. They are slower than bullets yes, but its like 7 seconds versus 12 with a shot to a vital spot. Try using a bow not made by tying a shoe string to a random stick you found in the back yard.
Essentially how it is to get a concealed permit in California or New York
Only scared people need concealed carry guns. Which makes them the least eligible group of people
The right of the people to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.
Unless you are telling open carry ought to become _shall-issue_?
@@axelord4ever first of all, if you didn't notice, these are Brits and therefore not at all bound to care what the US Constitution says. Second, that's "The Right of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms..." not the right of the individual. The personal right to own weapons was made up by the Supreme Court in 2008, having never existed before, and having been routinely rejected by American courts, for over two centuries. Third of all, even if such a right had been written into the Constitution, which it never was, it would still be a bad idea. Slavery and prohibition were both written into the Constitution, and later written out, meaning simply being written into the Constitution doesn't make something necessarily worth keeping. As for why it is a bad idea, I would suggest you watch the video above. Rowan Atkinson makes the argument quite well, I thought.
@@jesseberg3271 well said man!!!
@@Entropy__ wrong ! so what are you going to do when some shit head pulls knife out on you ? call the police ? guess what they will arrive too late to save you
Love
1:18 and 1:54 are the key parts
In real world this is not applied in UK, because you can get appropriate guns for your hobby (hunting, pest control or sport shooting), so both points not valid in appliance of gun laws.
I find it ironic that "people who want power are the ones who don't deserve it" is an idea being enforced over others by a man who explicitly WANTED THE POWER TO DO THE ENFORCING OVER OTHERS.
This clip should be taught in schools
Wow they’re talking about relevant issues today
Chooooo fucking choo!
Grimm would feel more at home in the USA's NRA.
1292liam Really the argument of Rowan Atkinson is just a joke. Because really otherwise his argument breaches freedoms only China would support
@@thomasalvarez6456 Bullshit. Every civilized country on this earth doesn't let you buy a gun in any random shop down the street. The individuals must be protected, especially from other individuals who think its prudent to shoot up the neighborhood because they're having a bad day.
@@DraculaCronqvist Why restrict the individual? Just because a few people commit crimes doesn’t mean everyone else should be punished, collective punishment is ineffective. We still have shootings ( a lowish amount for a large island) but plenty of stabbings. Soon you’ll see knife restrictions, then martial arts, cars etc. People find a way to kill each other. It’s going to happen.
Also the US still has lots of ways to stop the insane and criminals from buying weapons. It’s not actually possible to just buy one upfront even in Kanas, Texas, Arizona, Utah etc. Depends on the state, yet there are waiting periods, background checks (depending on the state the extent will vary), you need ID, to be of age etc. Don’t get me started on the tax on automatics, it’s very hard to get one even in most red states. Yet they don’t kill most people, it’s handguns,and knives. Because criminals don’t care, however if they know a house is armed even an armed robber is far less likely to commit home invasion. Thus, I don’t see the harm in ‘your home is your castle’ laws.
Why do people think we need one extreme or the other? I’m actually happy for some laws to be different in some countries, does Luxembourg really need to have open carry? The US however, does.
Much of it is still quite rural so police responses could take up to an hour for a very rural state like Oklahoma or Wyoming. You just cannot depend on the police, I don’t. They ignored my hit and run and I live rural.
Anyway, the UK needs much better self defence laws at least, they are abysmal.
@@DraculaCronqvist Actually that is exactly how it works. There is only a few nations on Earth that doesn't allow any kind of firearm ownership and the only nation I can think of is Japan. Any other country where firearm ownership is legal regardless of restriction is literally getting whatever legal document is required and going to a random shop down the street.
This might be a comedy but the way he applied to law, balancing the rights of the groups, was perfect.
You dont have rights to restrict others from owning things... I could object to you having television or streaming services because I don't want to live next to an idiot, it is a non-sense idea that only makes sense to idiots, like you.
@@craigcutler6919 The problem with using that analogy is that someone having television or streaming services doesn't put their neighbours in danger. On the other hand allowing someone to own a gun could put their neighbours in danger of serious injury or even death (notice that I didn't say it would put them in danger). Cars are a closer match to guns as they can be dangerous if misused, the problem with using cars as an analogy is that, for a lot of people, having a car as transport is essential to them functioning in society while, for most people, that isn't true for guns.
@@samuelgreen308 Neither does having a gun. There is nothing more inherently dangerous to a man owning a gun. Why? Because it comes down to the threat being the man, not the gun. If some crazy loon wants to harm you, he has a limitless number of options to cause you harm. If the man is not a crazed loon, then the presence of a gun makes no difference to anyone elses safety.
Grim wouldn't like the modern era.
More episodes and series should’ve been made
What do they mean by the kissing turkey's bottom thing ?
Secret masonic lodge ritual. To be a member you kiss the bottom of a dead turkey.
So how’s it a secret?
"I Live Here, I Don't Shoot Here", makes any Argument about Where I Live irrelevant. Even in Australia that Argument holds Water.
They will let any halfwit in england get permission for a gun if it wasn't for the license fee many would be shut down out in the sticks, the safety assesment in essence boils down to try not to shoot me you or someone else until I get out the gate. For example the last time I was in england visiting friends there was a moron with a shotgun strapped to the crossbar of his bicycle apparently the cops kept telling him to stop he compromised and started unloading it.
Fidelity Like many Australian Shooters who Lost Semiautomatic Rifles in the Gun Buy Back Scheme, I now Own much more powerful, single shot, bolt action Rifles. And I own more of them. And it's not like that Semiautomatic Rifles aren't still Legal in Australia, because they are; just not by city dwellers.
Fidelity surely no more port Arthur’s are a good starting point if you are looking for evidence? In the UK we banned handguns and its use in crime is rare.
@@anderssorenson9998 licensing is too tight. it just stops people who want to legally own a gun for a good purpose like clay pigeon shooting, even if they store their gun at a club and have no access to it. Mean while every ex bank robber that comes to my bar has access to guns.
@Fidelity Are you saying the homicide rates remained the same and were replaced perfectly with alternative tools than firearms? I find that hard to believe, but even if it was equal, it's still a win if less lethal weapons are now being used; I would never use that as an argument to say that firearms are a good idea because people are killing each other with other methods. Statistically countries that do not permit firearms have much lower murder rates, and even if on occassion someone does do a mass shooting, giving everyone guns to MAYBE protect the individual if this does happen to happen isn't worth the consequences of arming everyone with guns and thus, more killings are happening everywhere in the country.
I mean realistically do you actually keep guns to protect yourself from your government, or is it just an ideology? What, are you going to start a revolution and go out on the street and shoot government officials in some sort of patriotic anti-oppression war that's soon to come one day because your government will reign tyranny over you? If you think that's going to happen I think you need to move to another country, and if you think that's something that will always happen as long as people don't have weapons, well I don't know what to tell you.
Do you actually sit your gun at home and say, this is for me to kill my government if they ever try to impose authoritarian force upon me?
The UK on Guns
Choo fucking choo
With public demonstrations all over the western world of just how inept police are when it comes to protecting your rights, property, community or safety I imagine a lot of people have flipped on this issue lately.
OMG no I have not!
The last thing that will make me freer is a load of armed civilians! The British Army trained me in weapons use and I can still remember a couple of incidents when I learnt that, until you have had an NCO teaching you until it is second nature, you should not be allowed to handle one unsupervised.
I would not approve of only people who had been in uniform being allowed guns. That would not be a good sign for democracy. The only alternative is nobody should have them unless uniformed and under disciplinary control.
So what happens when an angry mob sets firr to your house, because some rumor spread online that there was child trafficking taking place there, and the police basically do nothing?
I ask because that exact scenario played out in Milwaukee only a day or two ago and the innocent couple, with a newborn baby, that lived there lost everything.
I've seen more than enough accounts of the police in the UK simply telling people calling for help that, "they had no one they could send."
@@wscottwatson So you wouldn't want people who had experience handling guns because that would be undemocratic but you would be fine with somebody owning a gun if they are in the service because they high-ups so that makes it all OK. It seems to me that you been baking in the sun too much mate.
@@wscottwatson Its fine mate the state will protect him and his rights just like Stalin and Mao would have wanted.
@@wscottwatson This old adage is more than enough to refute you, sir. When seconds count cops are minutes or hours away. Or to put it so that you might fully understand it. 6 men are approaching your wife looking to do "everything" to her. Against her consent. Standing agest them. Do you want to be holding a phone or a gun? We in America want the gun. Not some empty promise form a government. like in Seattle.
Rowan is brilliant. Absolutely plays this part well. The self righteous wanker who serves their own agenda instead of the law and people that they are suppose to. Funny but all to real some times.
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Masons
NRA gun owners.
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It's kinda sad when you realize that a comedy show made an effort to present both sides of the argument relatively fairly.
Comedy has always tackled social issues with humour. It passes most people by or gets written off due to the fact that it's a comedy. It was spot on here.
@@Syklonus It's not often mentioned but the original job of the court jester was to make fun of everyone, including kings, and their guests in order to relieve tension and also the point out when someone was being hypocritical or otherwise acting out of order. They were meant to play the fool while also being clever enough to see through the bullshit.
It doesn't. It doesn't even pretend that the "pro-gun"-side has any legitimate argument (which it doesn't). It ends with the words "Then you're quite clearly mad", which is exactly what pro-gun people are.
@@DraculaCronqvist why?
@@shannonmcelligott837 Because a gun enables you to kill a fuckton of people, so that's self-evidently not a good idea. You cannot achieve such a kill-count with a knife before you're taken down by the police or a neighbor. With your reasoning, we could all own missiles and you'd probably fail to see why that's a bad idea. You can defend yourself very much with a knife or a baseball bat or a taser. You do not need a gun for self-defense. There are methods of self-defense that work very well, without giving you the power of wiping out an entire neighborhood or town.
The simple truth, and enough people still haven't learned it.
It’s funny I got guns from London and bought took a solid 4 months before I could get my special order rifle
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