Farewell to the Ford S Max - the cool people carrier killed by Ford in 2023
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- The Ford S-Max was a new, cooler take on the MPV people carrier genre, still spacious but better to drive and look at but in April 2023 Ford ended production with nbc replacement Farewell S Max.
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Every 3rd car used to be a Ford when I was a young lad. Now every 3rd car is a Hyundai or a Kia. It isn't necessarily the SUV that has killed off Ford's range, it's Ford.
Totally agree, Kia is the new Ford sadly.
In 2010, I inherited a gen1 S-Max from a colleague who had left the company. It was less than 12 months old, disgustingly dirty and I spent an entire day cleaning it.
I hated that car, because by definition I hate all people carriers and SUVs. Yet over the next few years, I came to respect the engineering team for what they had produced: a barge that really can hustle. As a family, we found ourselves overtaking hard, using hairpins as slingshots and generally scaring lesser people off the road as we made our way.
The S-Max was a brilliant thing, and I will mourn its passing.
My Tomtom used to live in that front quarter light window. Oh,the memories. Every single interaction was well judged and weighted. A driver’s car doesn’t have to be a 2 seater.
Great car, especially with the 2.5t Volvo engine fitted! I was a Ford salesman in Chester back in 2006 when the new 007 film, Casino Royale, came out. Daniel Craig was from Chester, so the city hosted the regional premiere of the film and Daniel Craig’s parents were the guests of honour. My dealership chauffeured them to the cinema in an S-Max as it was the newest, coolest thing at the time!
The higher seating position was the main reason for many people to buy an MPV, I think: most of the former MPV-people now buying an SUV seems to say that anyway. The extra room and practicality was a bonus and not as much a necessity. Even then though, it seems there are still quite a few people who would buy an MPV if they were still around, enough for, say, 2 brands (Renault?) to still produce them. That's the thing these days with European car manufacturers: they all seem to be targetting the same customer now and don't notice other potential customers. Killing all variety in cars and car types in the process and acting like one big heard of sheep. And what Ford is (not) up too these days, is too strange for words: determining what the market wants always used to be their great strength, as was so beautifully shown by the S-max. Along with the last 2 Renault espace generations, I still think it's the best looking MPV ever made.
We are on our second, and it turns 10 this year, having owned for 7 years our one was the slight refresh of the 1st one and the plastics on centre console wearing much better despite being piano black, amazing car, handles well, reasonably economical, and incredibly practical.. not sure how or what we would replace it with… epic for filling with kids, dog and piles of stuff to hammer through France - nice video
These were absolutely brilliant cars to drive and the 2.5T Volvo engine was an absolute hoot! Such a sleeper and MPVs were such much more sensible vehicle. Trust TH-cam to do a stupid cull… great review Matt
Fully agree with your sentiments, I for one don’t want an SUV. Give me an estate or MPV any day 👍
As a huge admirer of Fords old and new, I'm dismayed to see the downward spiral the company seems to be taking at the moment.
Just FYI. Ford intend to build the Explorer electric SUV in the old Fiesta production lines. I think they worked out that selling 50,000 euro SUV's makes more than 15,000 euro superminis.
I really wish the SUV craze would end.
The S-Max was a great car. The Dad had one. It was like a Spaceship inside.
Didn't realise it had been still on sale, thought they'd stopped a while ago. But yes fashions change. We have the only 7 seater on the street, it's mostly SUVs here now.
The MPV sector still exists in the form of van based derivatives. Some of these are astonishingly good …… and equally astonishingly expensive.
One of the few MPV's that looks and drives good! Another great review Matt, enjoyed it.
Built in Genk Belgium 🇧🇪 the plant also produced the mondeo c - max b - max the production plant was shut down in 2015 and a loss of over 5000 jobs.
very sad times
Great feature vid! Smax fan here, owned them since 2015 I’m on my second. The mk2 lost the aeroplane handbrake in exchange for an electric one and some other changes, but great engines and the passenger space makes those road trips much easier! Not sure what I would replace it with if I had to!
I will mourn the S-Max. Car manufactorers are killing off the good cars, and it makes me equally sad and angry. I've had the pleasure of being a passenger in S-Maxes a few times, every time a 2L diesel with the auto gearbox, which is how i'd have one if i needed the space. Absolutely lovely car to be driven around in. I have a lot of love for the S-Max. When it looked like i might need more room i was seriously considering a Galaxy, because of the expoeriences i've had with the S. Great platform for sure. Ending such a car is moronic.
Didn't know how good these were. So many things like the seats on rails were on my old Renault scenic 2001, though the scenic had cubby holes in the floor and under the front seats and twin sunroofs 🤗
Always wanted one with a 2.5 turbo Volvo t5 engine if I ever needed a 7 seater
Titanium was mid spec. Titanium X and Titanium X Sport were above it.
Nice review Matt 👍
Never drove one, but been a passenger many times on my boos while had one for many years. Lovely on long trips and comfortable. I would buy one
Quite agree with your comment re manufacturers now days, they are all channeling us into a mid size SUV and telling us that what people want. What they don’t tell you is that since 2020 that’s all they’ve been building, so it’s more of a case that it’s what they want you to want.
I have been the owner of a 2012 one an it’s a great work horse ..only flaw ..the turn circle
At one stage in my life I would have doubted your sanity buying an MPV but with the deluge of SUV's on the market and how bad they are for interior space I eat my words, what a great idea. I also think it's one of the best designs for electric cars, MPV's with flat floors are great for camping in and all sorts. I no longer bother watching videos about new cars as they all seem to be SUV's.
Great review Matt. We had 2 both from new - first a 57 plate 2.0 litre manual 140 bhp titanium. Ran that one to 2014 when we got number 2 a 2.0 litre manual with the 163 bhp upgraded engine. Got the electric memory seat pack and IR windscreen. They are great dog cars - very low boot with masses of space. We took the 3rd row seats out to make the boot even larger. No spare wheel unfortunately. The 2.0 litre engines were the DW10 built in France by PSA. Absolutely bullet proof if maintained properly. Big solid heavy cars that were brilliant in the snow if fitted with winter tyres. Great driving position and big supportive seats. Both cars averaged 41 mpg and were very reliable. Factor in replacement front wheel bearings and new brake discs every 40-50k miles. Replaced earlier this year by a Toyota RAV4.
At one pont many years ago, I was on the verge of a semi pro photographer carrying lights, back grounds and a bunch of camera kit in the back of my old Mondeo estate and it was brilliant. I was looking at changing to an MPV like the S Max but a full time job change ended that as I no longer had the time. It's a real shame that this class of car has almost gone. The nearest to it is the van based options like the brilliant Berlingo and its clones but now these are all electric with limited range for a travelling snapper. As I'm no longer trying to get into the professional photography business as I'm getting on a bit and my bones and other bits creak amongst other things so I'll stick to my SUV for comfort. A sad day for the loss of another great car. RIP S Max production.
We just sold our mk1 Zetec diesel with plenty of life left in it at 237k miles. Best family car we ever had. Only thing that could .
replace it and be Ulez friendly was a newer mk2! The Mk 2 although more powerful is much heavier and although still fun to hustle is slower than the equivalent mk1
Well done Matt a great review as ever I remember having one as a courtesy car when my Focus was in the garage with gearbox issues it was actually the sales managers car!
I loved driving it very much it was comfortable and as the diesel it picked up really well it was practical especially as my son was a baby and had lots of bits and pushchair we had it for two weeks and didn’t want to give it back the only downside was the size which made it hard to park at home (which is why we had a focus) and the boot opened very high but such a lovely car I will be sad at it’s passing not sure what fords are doing at the moment
I love my S-Max. Appreciate the wide body that is not shrunk from shoulder level up. And the full size middle rear seat.
The car is wider than a Chevrolet Malibu and just an inch wider than a 2022 Impala.
I’m on my 2nd s-max after a disaster of a Zafira experience! A 2014 titanium x sport- great family car, handles well and goes well too!
i went from Scotland to Birmingham auction to buy one at auction as couldnt get one up here.5 kids so needed a seven seater.drove effortlessly and had it for two years and sold it for near price i paid for it.2.0 titanium.56 plate.
The dash in my Dad's S-Max Zetec was a weird Blue colour. It was a 2007 S-Max. He replaced it with a 2011 C-Max Titanium and that was the last Ford he had because their sales people were crap.
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What's going on at Ford Europe? Fiesta, Ka, Focus, Mondeo all killed off and now the S-Max. A curse on the marketing folk who have forced us into SUVs which are so big and heavy and impractical when compared to an MPV. SUV's squander their height "advantage" and are IMHO one of the worst motoring inventions ever. Or is Ford USA just sticking two fingers up at Europe as our politicians want us to ditch petrol and diesel, unlike the USA
Who knows? Sure SUVs sell but why remove the choice of anything different
Well, car manufacturers are for-profit companies, if MPVs don't sell well there's little point in making them. In the U.S. minivans are still popular so they are still being sold.
It's because of the push to change to EV's.
It looks to me like all the manufacturers are streamlining their model ranges so they can have both EV and ICE vehicles for now to cut costs and hedge their bets.
Plus sales figures don't lie, SUV's are what sell. Why keep producing a car that doesn't make as much profit vs one that does.
The decision for Ford to drop all passenger car body styles apart from the Mustang in North America was taken first I believe, so Ford Europe could be following on from that with no longer any economies of scale to share development costs on Fiestas, Focuses, S-Maxes etc?
I love this generation of Fords. All my friend's Dads had them as company cars. One had an S Max but the other had a 2009 Mondeo Titanium X Sport Diesel. I was there on the first day he got it and I was so impressed. I loved the interior with the digital dashboard and the space. It had real refinement and nice build but it was exciting on the country roads and the chassis had a real fluidity to it. In my opinion much better than the C Class we had at the time. We have a Focus diesel at work and that is also such a good car. Not sure about current Fords though and the last Mondeo..
That hand brake is one of the coolest hand brake l have seen and a six speed gearbox sporty in a people mover
i have a 59 plate mk1 cmax 2.0tdci // top spec nice car use as a van
I do not get what is going on at Ford. I have never been a Ford guy but 5 years or so ago I could’ve told you their entire range I guess I must’ve just absorbed it by osmosis. Now I genuinely don’t know what they make. Puma is the only one I can think of.
Awesome vehicle, great gearbox.
2.0 litre diesel and long legs.
Caravanners loved the S Max's towing ability and stability.
All the comfort and practicality of a Renault Scenic but with Ford Mondeo's legendary handling.
Can't help thinking that car design peaked in the mid 2000's and it has been largely down hill since.
I remember my parents were looking to replace our mk2 ford galaxy and went to the dealerships to look at the new s-max and mk3 galaxy at the time. I prefered the s-max out of the two. Although in the end they went for a second hand discovery 3 which they had for over 10 years. My uncle did buy the facelift s-max back in the early 2010s
I own a very similar model , same engine but minimal lower trim level (no color display instruments, no cruise control - unfortunately). From a practical perspective, best car I ever owned. Never left me stranded on the motorway bank, carried me, my family and loads of luggage crisscrossing across europe, from scotland to tuscany. Only source of trouble: the exhaust gas purification and soot filter installation. expensive to change which is due about all 120tkm. The motor control does some kind of cleaning cycles for the filter - if these are interrupted (short distance driving), unburned fuel leaks into the oil and dilutes it with potentially catastrophic consequences - so look out for higher oil levels than normal! The interior materials are robust but look terrible (they get water stains) - but the Ford interiors and materials were always infamously bland. Ride, handling, performance and fuel economy are all great, on the other hand.
A excellent review as always Matt, my wife's aunt.and Uncle had one when new and I nearly bought one back in 2017 to replace my written off Kia Cee'd.
Funnily enough me and the wife are considering replacing our Fabia Estate with something with more space and this review came up tonight, I may have to revisit a s-max now as a potential purchase, but it would have to be the 2.5 Volvo engined one!
9:41 honk!
It's very strange, in the Ford Puma the Titanium is the bottom or base model.
We had the C-Max in North America as Hybrid but it didn't sell well but the Escape Did
Still genuinely perplexed by what these are for and why so many people bought them. The Galaxy had all the same seats, drove the same, handled the same but had much more space, in terms of load and headroom for the rear seat row. So why would you want less headroom and space if you're buying a family wagon? Also, for both the S-max and Galaxy... infuriatingly Ford seemed to design them specifically NOT to be a transit equivalent... the floor between the plastic around rear turrets is 118cm wide, i.e. 2cm narrower than standard construction timber and plasterboard. This MUST have been a deliberate choice, to stop it robbing sales from the Transit & Connect. They do drive REALLY well for a people-carrier though.
LOL, my brother (a mechanic) had one of these a low mileage 12plate.
He bought it in 2018 fsh etc. He was chuffed as buggery to have a nice well looked after car, ( he used to buy his garages part exes as projects).
After around the first mot the ecu gave up and he got it reprogrammed and was fine for a few months when the bcm packed up etc.etc.
These issues went on at great expense for 2years.
It became a running joke, that my freelander 1 is more reliable..........
He sold the car after 2 and a bit years only to find out a few months later the car shredded its timing belt on the A303 and was scrapped.
I still have my petrol freelander and love it 👍
I had a C-Max Energi. Not sure if that class made it overseas or not. Great vehicle and outstanding fuel economy. Unfortunately post warranty repairs rendered it useless for me to keep.
Sadly I completely forgot this car existed.
Be interested to how the tdci companies to the ST engine one like the one UpNDown has as it the same as this only with the ST engine
Ah the Addy Lee special. Not a bad vehicle. Used them for party transfers, trade show moves and even a flat move.
Not that I've ever been a fan of the s-max as such I drove a s-max for a while with my work, a decent car to drive but I've never been a fan of mpvs but I find it a crying shame that all these manufacturers are getting rid of the variety of cars and forcing us all into electric suv things.
This is my first s-max and only had it 5 weeks so far. I had had Renault since 1991 .and the last 4 were scenics ,and so far im not convinced I will stay with the S-Max, the storage options on the s-max are almost just playing a game , where as the scenic really made it useable (the mk 1 scenic was the daddy of storage though) , and i miss the footwell storage of the mk2 . i hope to grow to like the S-Max, but given the opportunity of the model i need coming available Ill be right back to Renault again. no point having all that space in the back when you have to fill it with boxes as the s-max inbuilt storage "cubby holes are pretty small and useless.
The cheap silver plastic trim in the centre console especially the radio hasn't aged well, Otherwise a nice looking interior.
Its awful, all the silver has come off ours. Whoever designed those buttons deserves the same treatment you and Chrissie gave to that ungrateful waiter.
@stephen7658
Haha, very true. There was a craze for silver for whatever reason. Remember, when TVs and DVD players, etc, went silver and ended up looking very cheap and nasty.
Could you review the original Focus? Im interested in the tea shelf test or how you call it. I remember the dashboard was rounded shape. In the end it was a big improvement over the Escort.
Am I right in thinking the fiesta was engineered to a point where it made no money. E.g. No point having a class leading chassis if theres no profitability.
As I have said before the last great decade for the average car buyer who wanted a large choice of bodystyles was the 1980's
In the 1990's Car manufacturers all saw the success of Chrysler and Renault with their vans with seats 'MPV's' and all of them started pumping out badly made cheap plastic filled vans with seats in all sizes
When estate cars were always safer, more practical and not full of pointless gadgets
Into the 21st century they all noticed the success of the soft off-road cars 'SUV's'
And now the sheeple all buy their horrendous SUV's as that is what everyone else buys
We used to have many body styles, colours, designs and manufacturers
Car makers realised that the sheeple will buy anything and so they just produce crap that your average idiot who has no interest in their car will buy
The only cars left now with any design, colour or enjoyment are either classics or expensive cars £50,000 plus
I have a Honda Accord estate 2.2d Nice and smooth great on the motorways. when it goes I don't know what to replace it with as I don't want a SUV. my favourite car shape is a two door coupe.
"Car makers realised that the sheeple will buy anything and so they just produce crap that your average idiot who has no interest in their car will buy" That seems a rather cynical analysis! It could -- rather -- be as simple as the Ford Puma so outsells the Ford Fiesta and the Ford Escape so outsells the Ford Mondeo estate or S-Max (likewise for the CR-V outselling the Honda Accord estate), that therefore there is simply *not a compelling business case* for the non-SUV styles? As much as the auto makers could tell prospective buyers about the superior aerodynamics and superior handling of the lower body styles, most buyers don't seem to care.
@@darthvirago "my favourite car shape is a two door coupe." Honda held out with still selling Accord coupes and Civic coupes in North America for as long as possible (until 2018 and 2021 respectively IIRC) but eventually they had to throw in the towel, it wasn't worth the expense of a separate body style for such low sales. These days most of the coupes and 3-door hatchbacks based on ordinary cars are gone -- be it Megane coupe, Scirocco, no more three-door Golf, no more three-door Focus (soon no more Focus at all!), no more three-door Civic, no more aptly named Kia Koup etc. The numbers don't add up anymore. [Those seeking a coupe "style" seem to prefer 5-door "SUV coupes" like the Renault Arkana instead of actual coupes -- yikes!]
I'm not going to lie besides I think the screen size all tho it was a few years ago and it's a titanium x not a titanium this really felt familiar. my dad had an 07 mondeo with this engine in it that had a parrot phone thing on it and wood trim and manual seats but I still remember it and the feel. It was quick and felt posh for the ford's I grew up in even tho some most of them were ghia mk1 focuses. The reg was pl07 jxt I can say that as it got killed by a tree sadly then we had a 2012 bmw 3 series touring as a hire car it was quick but didn't feel I belonged in it same as the mondeo. The the mondeo also had massive sporty alloys too. Proper comfortable aswell the mondeo was. Also dad's mondeo was a saloon not an estate also just remembered I hated cleaning it especially with the size took ages and had to climb in the boot to get all the boot hoovered I was probably 14 to 16 at the time
Got a 07 plate S-Max and love mine to bits! Harsh on petrol, but that comes with the engine. Hope I can cherish mine for a long time to come!
Folding mirrors? Not available on our posh VAG group vehicle - AND a proper handbrake. A very nice car. 👍
Not as practical as my Renault Scenic, I could get 3 bikes with the front wheels removed stood upright plus myself & 2 friends, my mates S Max because of the sloping roof couldn't manage that we had to remove all wheels. Still a nice family car though. Car manufacturers are missing a trick by only producing boring suv's.
I’m pretty sure the X-Type Jag used the same platform as well? Big shame that Ford has basically stuck there fingers up at their whole customer base. Let’s hope they know what they’re doing.
This is exactly inside like my mondeo titanium 2008 still so modern looking
far better than this SUV crap nowadays
Still think the first gen Ford galaxy was better with seven full sized seats. I had a 2000 galaxy zetec tdi from new and it was fantastic for a young family. Loads of space and great fuel economy.
The gen 1 galaxies,Alhambra and sharans they were based off were dreadful products.
Galaxy is ugly though
Wonder how many children's drink containers have disappeared through the hole in the tray behind the seats...
IS Smax 2014 2L diesel manual also good car? or just the oldies like 2007?
I was searching since a while for a 7 seater car when I made my mind to get the S-max, I saw your video & now i am lost .. should I get it or not? sorry I have zero car experience and I don't fully understand what is the results of this car being discontinued ? I'll lose a lot of money when trying to sell it 3 years from now? will it be harder and more expensive to fix it or find spare parts if needed? can someone please let me know so I can make up my mind :) Thanks
The dying breed. Nice family carrier that one can't buy anymore...... THE CAR INDUSTRY MUST BE MAD TO DELETE THIS SEGMENT.
Greetings from Slovenia.
At 3:26, completely different engines from that fitted to a mk3 mondeo.
Just around the corner from me. I thought I recognised those roads. You got to enjoy the great Greenstead magic roundabout and poor driving in Colchester.
Great cars....but it didn't stop my ex.missus from killing hers...😫😫
It's because of the push to change to EV's.
It looks to me like all the manufacturers are streamlining their model ranges so they can have both EV and ICE vehicles for now to cut costs and hedge their bets.
Plus sales figures don't lie, SUV's are what sell. Why keep producing a car that doesn't make as much profit vs one that does.
And remember EV SUV's now do have a similar amount of space thanks to flat floors, no engine, etc.
On the contrary, boot and floor space have been compromised to accommodate for the batteries. EV SUVs are big from the outside and cramped on the inside.
in some cases, but certainly not all and generally they are significantly bigger outside for the same size inside as something like this
@volvo480 rubbish, we have an ID4, interior space is more than in a Tiguan.
@@BRED510 take a look at the specs of both cars please. Tiguan 615 litre loading space vs 543 in the ID4. Luggage threshold Tiguan 690 mm vs ID4 740 mm. Tiguan length 4509 mm vs ID4 4585 mm, Tiguan width 1839 vs ID4 1853 mm. So Volkswagen managed to design a smaller and less practical boot space into a larger car, and I haven't talked about weight yet: the ID4 is 456 kg heavier than its ICE equivalent. So this is our future: obese, impractical EV SUV, because manufacturers have stopped making everything else.
Got third twin brother - galaxy. Love them
You seem to have your logic a bit backward. SUVs are what people buy so that’s what they make. In the early 2000s it was all MPVs like the S Max but no one buys them now. Things change, sadly not always how we want them to. But there’s nothing wrong with an SUV - I’ve offered you a drive in my Jag F Pace SVR before. Take me up on it and then tell me SUVs are no fun!! Cheers Matt. Keep up the good work- and when are you going to finish the Crown Vic?
I'm 3 minutes in and I have to say it....what the heck happened to those wheels!? That is the worst pain job I've ever seen 😂
In fairness to Ford, other than the overdone silver plastics on the centre stack, its quite handsome and inoffensive for an S'A'V (MPV). Popular and with the 5 pot actually not a bad noise!
Top gear have just got to get you under contract my friend,they don’t know what they are missing out on😉😉😉😉😉😉👍
I still like a saloon. I must be getting old.
Looking forward to the 100k subscribers video
I love mine it’s so reliable!
Is there any core difference between the S-Max and the Galaxy?
very similar bones but the S Max is smaller and better to drive
only difference is from the Windows upward (Galaxy is higher -> roomier). Even the Owners Manual covers both models.
For a car aimed at families and selling on practicality and convenience it always struck me as strange that so much prime real estate was given over to that huge, gimmicky handbrake.
I despise SUVs bexause they're killing the very definition of choice
I preferred the standard Ford S-Max with five seats, not the Ford Grand S-Max with seven seats. The third row of the seven seat Ford Grand S-Max is only really suitable for very young children, if you want to carry seven adults, you're better off with the Ford Galaxy that's also been recently discontinued.
Good video Matt 🚗🚙🚘👏👏👏👏👍👍👍👍⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Volvo also no longer makes an estate car☹️
I went test driving a 2.5T in 2010, needless to say it didn’t impress after my MK1 Octavia vRS and I returned home in the Skoda.
Lighter much more lively to drive than the Ford.
Ofcourse it’s lighter the Skoda weighs 1300 kg and the Ford 1700 kg. Comparing apples with oranges.
I recognise these roads, drive down them all the time for my job 😂
Posh... ? Nah, it's a Ford, it only takes a very little while to realize it's all ersatz. And yet, my neighbour has a 2005 reg. one these, and I really like the interior layout and styling. The outside.. ? Difficult to tell really. It has so many battle scars that nowadays people avoid parking next to it at the supermarket car parks.
People carrier and estate over SUVs!
Yes!
Just for that cheap jibe at the Zafira Matt ( they dont all combust!) No like for you today.
Now you know how I feel as a FIAT fan when twats say fix it again tomorrow 🤗
I buy cars at the very bottom of the market, and 5 years ago when I was shopping round to replace an almost dead 1st-gen Kia Carens, almost all the Zafiras I found in my price range had blown head gaskets and/or were non-runners. I ended up buying a Renault Grand Scenic with wobbly suspension and worn-out brakes instead.
Dont forget the 1.6 TDCi
Sad times😢
My first taxi was a galaxy which took me to school
Proper Motab spesh
I am absolutely gutted! I used to like the MPV's. Some were really versatile and you could do interesting things with them. All we've got is just bloody overpriced, overpowered SUV's and Battery EV's now.
Ditched another great large family wagon, in favour of a same same same ugly unpractical SUV , I saw a Hyundai and a Nissan SUV next to each other and they looked almost the same 🤦♂️ I really am not a fan the duff SUVs, unless it’s a proper one eg Land Rover .
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Yipee I'm 8th today
7th
Although it's not a bad car, not bad looking too,
But no way is it Cool on any level, don't matter how fast you make em, no people carrier is Cool.
Completely disagree! Outrageously cool car sir!
Didn't get this in Australia. Strange for a country of breeders.
Australia got in early on the SUV fad! Ford Australia expected you to buy a locally designed and made Ford Territory 7-seat SUV. It first supplemented and then, shortly thereafter, completely replaced the Ford Falcon estate.