I am a Japanese hobby ice dancer. In 1990's, we were taught how to stroke by Mr. Viktor Ryzhkin, who was an ice dancing coach from Russia. It is just the way he taught us. I think "Russian Stroking" may be related to him.
Hi, im korean and your video is reeealy helping me!! I just start figure skating, so i'm glad to earn lots of skating skills from you. Thanks a lot!! :)
Thank you! I appreciate the notes on posture. I'm always looking for ways to vary my warm-up routine, so I'd love to see more videos on warm-up and/or footwork exercises. Perhaps something like this but made more difficult with turns!
We're not sure of the name outside of the UK, perhaps crossover inside edge? The hourglass pattern is a great variation. We'll do a tutorial on that in the future!
Great video, Wish you would have demonstrated for a bit longer at the beginning of video. You only gave us one time on each side. Anyway look forward to trying this.
Yes same here. I need to see several repeated to understand how this works. Also the part where he said he was showing the placement was filmed from his view so all I saw was ice and there was zero context😢. I do really find most of his videos helpful though!
Ah, steps! I love steps! I'm doing the Russian Crossrolls. I keep thinking that they're called Russian, because those big ballet type arms and wide dramatic motions. I consider them typically Russian. I've been born there but I'm German. So with both perspectives it's kind of easy to make out differences. Visually I've come to dislike Russian skating. Exactly due to the overly big motions. Often executed with dramatic body language and on top of that: often in a somewhat resolute way. Even soft movements are drama. 🤣 I can't help but think "they're working hard". It's really a matter of culture and personal taste mismatch. Yet, these movements are great for warm-up AND the very same motions can be executed in different styles. I love how they'll change depending on mood. Skaters, like dancers, can't help but show their current selves in their every move. That's exactly what makes it interesting for me, although there's that aspect if "sport", too 😝
You're absolutely right, skating is a lot of about cultural and personal taste, which is why judging can see such differences in opinion at high level competition. While this exercise is called Russian stroking, it is an exercise that both Jono and myself have seen been used all over the world which is why we wanted to share it with all of our users! In the UK we call it Russian stroking but it isn't known as that all over the world, just like how people's cultural and personal opinions change all over the world
My coach just calls the drill... "Forward crossovers with stroking (inside edge)" - 1 lap. The parenthesis is even omitted later on. It's very straightforward, so I'm glad I kinda know a shorter/alternate way to call this drill Hi from all the way from the Philippines!
I can do forward cross overs both ways but his instructions gave me no idea what to do. If it weren't for the fact that there were a few seconds of the exercise shown being done completely on both sides, I could have reached the end of the who clog and still been completely lost.
I'm sorry to hear the video wasn't very helpful for you. If you have any feedback on what would have made it better for you, please let me know and I'll work on it for future releases. - Lloyd
@@IceCoachOnline Hi Lloyd, I really appreciate your videos. I'll try and work out why and how to explain in what ways I didn't find this one so clear. It could just be that it is so unfamiliar to me, whereas the others I have watched are things I already recognise and therefore at least partially 'know' what is expected? Grateful for the series, NN
@@noodlenoggin5854 I appreciate the feedback a lot ! This kind of feedback helps to make future videos a better learning experience. A downvote doesn't give any feedback as to what the problem was, so I'm very appreciative that you chose to explain yourself. I think a few more slow motion shots in future videos I create while explaining what's going on could potentially help.
@@IceCoachOnline is the exercise correct if you do a crossover and inside edge quarter circle BOTH in the same direction, then repeat in the other direction. So, you are effectively doing a semi circle with the crossover and inside edge combined, making an elongated continuous s shape down the rink? My initial confusion was how the inside edge quarter circle was positioned - my first (erroneous) imagination would be confusing for my legs, turning the other way from the first crossover and setting me up to crossover again in the same direction as the first time. I'm going to actually try it this afternoon, but I think that was my confusion - two quarter circles but in the same direction to make a complete semi circle. If that's common sense, or just made sense to the other viewers - I don't mind attributing my confusion to my unfamiliarity with this (and similar) exercises. Ha, and even once I have the feet step sequence down, trying to get the arms elegantly going in the right direction... Watch out- no need to be vigilant for flying children's seals, there's an actual baby elephant coming down the rink! Te he
@@noodlenoggin5854 I think the best way to describe it on here is like this: Imagine a load of semi circles going down the length on the ice rink along a line that look kind of like this S. The inside edge, and the crossover are on the same semi circle. But you change to a semi circle going the other way when you step on the next inside edge. So the exercise goes like this: Left forward outside Push, crossover, then change the semi circle as you step on the left forward inside edge, then stay on this semi circle on the right forward outside crossover, then change circle as you go to step on the right forward inside edge. I hope this made sense! Lloyd
I am a Japanese hobby ice dancer. In 1990's, we were taught how to stroke by Mr. Viktor Ryzhkin, who was an ice dancing coach from Russia. It is just the way he taught us. I think "Russian Stroking" may be related to him.
Back in the 90s when i skated my coach would make us do russian stroking on a count of 1 for each step. She did it that way for cardio workout.
I have learned quickly from Loyde as well as the other coaches. Looking forward to more videos.
Glad to hear the videos have been helping you 🙂
Good one..I've watched pairs skaters do this and gave it a try...fabulous warm-up!!!
Hi, im korean and your video is reeealy helping me!! I just start figure skating, so i'm glad to earn lots of skating skills from you. Thanks a lot!! :)
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I want to try. It’s beautiful, and totally doable for an average skater.
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Excellent. Please more more videos like this. Simple, effective exercises but with fantastic details.
Thank you! I appreciate the notes on posture. I'm always looking for ways to vary my warm-up routine, so I'd love to see more videos on warm-up and/or footwork exercises. Perhaps something like this but made more difficult with turns!
Wonderfully explained, thank you!
We did it in huge hourglass figure both forwards and backwards. Didn't even know there was a name for it.
We're not sure of the name outside of the UK, perhaps crossover inside edge? The hourglass pattern is a great variation. We'll do a tutorial on that in the future!
Omg! Thank you So much for helping me At this exercise..:D
You're welcome! I'm happy to hear it helped - Lloyd
U are too good
Wish you had done the backward Russian step as well.
We'll do a video covering that in the future :)
Great video, Wish you would have demonstrated for a bit longer at the beginning of video. You only gave us one time on each side. Anyway look forward to trying this.
Yes same here. I need to see several repeated to understand how this works. Also the part where he said he was showing the placement was filmed from his view so all I saw was ice and there was zero context😢. I do really find most of his videos helpful though!
Also I don’t think he knows when his feet are out of frame.
Ah, steps! I love steps! I'm doing the Russian Crossrolls. I keep thinking that they're called Russian, because those big ballet type arms and wide dramatic motions. I consider them typically Russian. I've been born there but I'm German. So with both perspectives it's kind of easy to make out differences. Visually I've come to dislike Russian skating. Exactly due to the overly big motions. Often executed with dramatic body language and on top of that: often in a somewhat resolute way. Even soft movements are drama. 🤣 I can't help but think "they're working hard". It's really a matter of culture and personal taste mismatch. Yet, these movements are great for warm-up AND the very same motions can be executed in different styles. I love how they'll change depending on mood. Skaters, like dancers, can't help but show their current selves in their every move. That's exactly what makes it interesting for me, although there's that aspect if "sport", too 😝
You're absolutely right, skating is a lot of about cultural and personal taste, which is why judging can see such differences in opinion at high level competition.
While this exercise is called Russian stroking, it is an exercise that both Jono and myself have seen been used all over the world which is why we wanted to share it with all of our users!
In the UK we call it Russian stroking but it isn't known as that all over the world, just like how people's cultural and personal opinions change all over the world
My coach just calls the drill... "Forward crossovers with stroking (inside edge)" - 1 lap. The parenthesis is even omitted later on. It's very straightforward, so I'm glad I kinda know a shorter/alternate way to call this drill
Hi from all the way from the Philippines!
I can do forward cross overs both ways but his instructions gave me no idea what to do. If it weren't for the fact that there were a few seconds of the exercise shown being done completely on both sides, I could have reached the end of the who clog and still been completely lost.
I'm sorry to hear the video wasn't very helpful for you. If you have any feedback on what would have made it better for you, please let me know and I'll work on it for future releases.
- Lloyd
@@IceCoachOnline Hi Lloyd, I really appreciate your videos. I'll try and work out why and how to explain in what ways I didn't find this one so clear. It could just be that it is so unfamiliar to me, whereas the others I have watched are things I already recognise and therefore at least partially 'know' what is expected?
Grateful for the series,
NN
@@noodlenoggin5854 I appreciate the feedback a lot ! This kind of feedback helps to make future videos a better learning experience. A downvote doesn't give any feedback as to what the problem was, so I'm very appreciative that you chose to explain yourself. I think a few more slow motion shots in future videos I create while explaining what's going on could potentially help.
@@IceCoachOnline is the exercise correct if you do a crossover and inside edge quarter circle BOTH in the same direction, then repeat in the other direction. So, you are effectively doing a semi circle with the crossover and inside edge combined, making an elongated continuous s shape down the rink?
My initial confusion was how the inside edge quarter circle was positioned - my first (erroneous) imagination would be confusing for my legs, turning the other way from the first crossover and setting me up to crossover again in the same direction as the first time.
I'm going to actually try it this afternoon, but I think that was my confusion - two quarter circles but in the same direction to make a complete semi circle.
If that's common sense, or just made sense to the other viewers - I don't mind attributing my confusion to my unfamiliarity with this (and similar) exercises.
Ha, and even once I have the feet step sequence down, trying to get the arms elegantly going in the right direction... Watch out- no need to be vigilant for flying children's seals, there's an actual baby elephant coming down the rink! Te he
@@noodlenoggin5854 I think the best way to describe it on here is like this:
Imagine a load of semi circles going down the length on the ice rink along a line that look kind of like this S.
The inside edge, and the crossover are on the same semi circle. But you change to a semi circle going the other way when you step on the next inside edge.
So the exercise goes like this:
Left forward outside Push, crossover, then change the semi circle as you step on the left forward inside edge, then stay on this semi circle on the right forward outside crossover, then change circle as you go to step on the right forward inside edge.
I hope this made sense!
Lloyd
I'm russian and I don't know why the heck it is called Russian stroking either. No clue.