Exploring the Crazy World of Limited Run Games
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 มิ.ย. 2024
- Limited run is a company that makes physical copies of games that are otherwise unattainable. In this video I go into their history, discuss what people hate about them, and what they love about them. I then go and take a look at what some of these games are going for on the second hand market.
Patreon:
/ kevinsthreechannels
My Recording Setup:
Sony Lapel Microphone: amzn.to/3T7M2wF
Wireless Microphone: amzn.to/3xG04uO
Webcam: amzn.to/3vLgGDO
Microphone stand: amzn.to/40RR047
Narration Mic: amzn.to/4c7Exys
Camera Tripod: amzn.to/3QUA1JE
Splitter for PS3 and Vita: amzn.to/49RKbn5
Sony ZV-E10 Camera: amzn.to/3uuBRtv
PC Cart: amzn.to/40SOH0G
My Gameroom Items:
Label maker: amzn.to/3OdaOYG
Kinivo HDMI Switch Box (550BN): amzn.to/3NQm7FW
TESmart 16 Port HDMI Switch 60 Hz: amzn.to/39b9mGZ
TESmart 8 Port HDMI Switch 60 Hz: amzn.to/3xngDLY
Electric Duster: amzn.to/3pJhTp5
Rack Mount Power Supply: amzn.to/3NPpKvM
10-Port USB Hub: amzn.to/39ixyae
Wall Shelf for Handhelds: amzn.to/3I3SS01
Vectrex Table: amzn.to/39ZkmHE
Atari 2600/7800 book: amzn.to/40SOH0G
Retron 5 System: amzn.to/3nk3kuM
Open Slot Wire Covers: amzn.to/3RcPbsi
*DISCLAIMER: The Amazon links are affiliate links. If you purchase a product or service with the links that I provide I may receive a small commission. There is no additional charge to you! Also, you don't have to purchase the exact thing the link leads to. If you move to another page on Amazon after clicking the link, I still get the commission, except for certain items that are excluded. Thank you for supporting my channel!
00:00 What LRG Does
02:23 What People Dislike About LRG
06:37 What People Like About LRG
08:03 Expensive LRG Games
14:04 Cheap LRG Games
..............................................................................................................
#limitedrungames #retrogaming - เกม
Some people have told me that I sound nervous in my videos. Although I take most criticism with a grain of salt, I wanted to try doing a video with a more calm demeanor, and that's what I did in this video. Do you think it turned out better? I'm not so sure. It seems like it takes the energy level down too much. Perhaps sounding nervous is perfectly fine because it makes everything I say more interesting.
While you did seem a bit more confident in this video, I can’t say I mind a nervous narrator either. I’d wager each video’s script is more important, and you always seem to have a good grasp on what you want to discuss and usually lead the viewer there in a clear, logical manner.
I think you always sound fine, it's never occurred to me you sound "nervous"
I noticed a difference at the start....fades as it goes on...I don't mind either tbh
Natural is better than fake...so whatever you do...don't go too far!
Do your best, sit with the criticism for a moment, contemplate if it's helpful, and do what's best for you. Most of the chirping isn't really helpful.
I have a lot to say about LRG, iam8bit, etc.--plenty that is positive and plenty that is negative--but my biggest irk surrounding the company is when you go to watch someone's gaming collection video and they just have oodles of LRG titles. Most will be unopened, unplayed, and countless times I've seen the collectors admit that they know NOTHING about the game, but that they simply bought it up because it was a "Limited Run Games" release.
I have a couple sealed ones only because I already had the digital release for years and don't really need to open the physical copy unless something happens where I can't get my digital version back
@@zachary_attackery Same here. Games I loved so much I eventually sought out a physical copy for the collection.
This. Far too many people treat these limited releases as investments to park money into, and/or shelf candy. In some ways it's hard to blame them because it's not practical to actually play these games, since it can take up to a year sometimes to actually receive an order. Sometimes longer. By then they likely bought a (much cheaper) digital copy and moved onto other stuff by the time their order arrived.
The way they spoke to their customers on their own message board was nuts.
Can you elaborate? I'm not a lrg customer.
@@scottpilgrim2 they used to have a message board under their original name, mighty rabbit studios... They were amazingly rude to anyone that hit a nerve. I specifically remember them crapping on customers that asked about their Sega Saturn replacement cases. They had delayed that release like 5+ times.
I got Shantae and the 7 Sirens ,Shantae GBColor release for PS4 , Streets of Rage 4 and Castlevania Requiem. All opened and played , as they should be.
I only buy LRG if it’s something that I absolutely know I want. My biggest problem with LRG and similar companies is that what they sell is Limited only. I’m sure that if they were more like Criterion Collection or Arrow there would not be as much negative opinions about them.
My only issue with fake scarcity is collectors, and appraisers. The same thing happened with comic books before their bubble popped. I wish people bought them because they actually cared to enjoy the item, and not because they see it as an investment. I'll never understand the people who have rare games, and instead of dumping/sharing it with everyone, they decide to hoard it.
If they hoard it they feel it has some sort of "better than thou" stature
4:48 "You could, I don't know, end up in jail" ...yeah, about that.
...and I took that personally.
Don't drop the soap
It’s cool that a lot of these games are getting a physical release, but limited run is definitely not the best company to do these releases. I think the straw that broke the camel’s back to me is that their PC games are not even physical (no disc, just a Steam key). They advocate for physical games, yet they don’t care about PC Gamers and just ship a Steam key inside the box.
Hypocrisy.
I have never bought a single LRG game (but I was tempted to get Postal Redux on PS4).
I’ll pick up their releases when I see them out physically at Best Buy but I never order from them directly. I can’t tell you how many times, I have picked up a game they sent to Best Buy first that my friend who ordered directly from them had to wait 2 more months to get his copy. Lol
yeah that's another annoying thing with them, you think their release is the only one available so you pre-order it, then like 2 months later it shows up on Amazon and it's already ready to go. I know that happened with the TMNT game
@@zachary_attackerycollectors buy them for the collector tat that is only available in Limited Runs release of the game
I can’t wrap my head around the PS Vita listing…even if you use price charting prices a new copy of the most expensive vita game that got a retail release…and multiply that by 101 for the number of games in the listing, you only get about $83,000.
Oneday;
I'm gonna make a company called *"Unlimited Run Games",* and I just hand you an EverDrive.
Kyle with the credit card taking on the world's debt
9:20 You can look up what a "best offer" went for through the sellers console that seller can use to determine pricing. However this one isn't on there which probably means the buyer failed to pay and the sale went through which is probably also why it went up again.
"Sold" on ebay really doesn't mean "bought and paid for" and rather it just means "listing ended with an intend to purchase".
Or "listing ended with an intend to establish a high fake price"
I've ordered a handful of things from them and usually didn't really have any problems, until I ordered Sam & Max. Took like a year and a half for them to ship. In that time, I forgot I had ordered anything from them and moved to a new house, and I got so many junk emails from them that I missed the email that said "we're about to ship it, make sure your address is accurate"
Then, I see the shipping email, and am basically told "as long as you have mail forwarding, you'll be good"
That was not the case, because the class of mail they use doesn't include mail forwarding. Luckily I was able to call the post office and have them stop the delivery and deliver it to my new house
Just about 10 of the first Switch releases. Think I'm missing one of the 10 though. Would be nice to complete that with an open box but might be too late this many years later.
The closest I have come to getting a limited run game was the Shantae GBA game but with shipping they were asking around $80 and nowhere did it say if it was in USD or CAD. If it was in USD then I would be paying around $100 and I can't rationalize paying that much on a GBA game. Also I have a friend who said it been 2 years since he bought something from them and he still hasn't gotten it
Excellent video Sir! Keep up the good work. I always look forward to your video content.
I really enjoy your videos. Thank you for all the work you put into them.
I used to be one of the guys that bought every release when LRG first came out. Back then it was doable because they only released one game a month. After a while it became a chore to buy from them. But i stopped supporting them when they fired their employee. I now just purchase retro games from the 16 bit era and working on my snes collection. Im kinda done with modern gaming.
I have 4 limited run ps4 games, Persona 3 Portable, Persona 4 Golden, The Infectious Madness of Doctor Dekker and Night in the Woods
Keep up the good work.Your videos get better and better. appreciate your enthusiasm
I was one of the ones that waited for 2 years on my Worms Armageddon for N64. Man what a day when I finally got it. Recently they've been a bit faster with the shipping but it still takes quite some time. I both love and hate them but I'm basically chained up to them as a switch collector lol
Also to touch on what you said about how they used to do it in limited quantities back then. They still do that for specific games randomly. Like when they have some stock left over from PAX or when senran kagura on the 3ds got a new run but only lasted minutes to get. It's a bit of an issue still but less frequent
There is a definite place in the niche collectors' market for companies like LRG, but my biggest gripe with them is how much they encourage scalping and prospecting. There may not be a way to eliminate it completely but there is absolutely a conflict of interest between LRG and ebay resellers, and tweaks should be made to the current model to take the steam out of the reseller/investor attraction to LRG releases.
They also give games that never got a physical release and make a physical copy for gamers. For instance Transistor never got a physical released. Also freedom planet same story. Until Limited Run Games stepped in and gave the the PlayStation 4 & Nintendo Switch a physical release.
P.S. you can also ask Limited Run Games if they could make a game that never got a physical release or if it had years ago to be re release on modern consoles.
Where can you ask rhem
I buy any game that I might want to play from limited run. They have room to improve but most of these games would not have been available without them so I am happy to put up with the negatives. The future of physical games will be from companies like this aimed at collectors.
I used to buy any Metroidvania style game they put out but my God a LOT of them are terrible, and it's evident about 5 minutes into the game. I remember one where they attack button was the R1 and you couldn't change the button layout which made the game unplayable. You really gotta do some research into these games before you buy them now because a lot of them suck
I agree and the same in the options menu would be nice in game to use different filters because as is some look terrible .@@zachary_attackery
Anything that's listed as "limited" I don't even bother. I'd rather use that energy doing something else. I don't mind digital these days though I understand its drawbacks. Though I did accidentally buy Shredder's Revenge on the PS4 from them though Amazon because I thought it was a mass release and didn't pay attention to the publisher, lol. Took FOREVER to get here.
I go to LRG for stuff that I really really want. Usually I buy a couple copies of whatever I buy: one to play, and one to collect.
Great video man :)
Great subject matter.
I ordered from Pix'n'love two or three years ago (I forget when exactly) they are a French/euro version of limited run games.
I ordered the king of fighters 2002 unlimited match ps4 limited edition, it came in a neogeo style clam case and art book. Lovely set, cost me around £100 after post and tax (France to uk).
The problem was they were vague on its release window. The digital game arrived on psn a matter of hours after the pix'n'love physical game announcement, it said "summer" of that year...
I didn't get it til near Christmas. Instead of waiting 4-6 months it was 10 months.
Kinda bad how long it took to get shipped.
By the time it arrived, I almost forgot about it, and I didn't care all that much either. Took me a few weeks to really appreciate owning it after my mate popped over and had a gander at it.
Edit: I know pix'n'love isn't LRG, but the experience I had, and how they operate, was very similar.
Never bought one of their releases and never will
That vita collection didn’t sell and got relisted. However, you can use terapeak to see what something sold for (if the sell did not fall through)
In the beginning, I bought their Oddworld-games for Vita. After that, not so much anymore. However, when they announced they were doing physical releases of Persona 3 Portable and Persona 4 Golden, I did decide to grab those for Xbox and Switch. Now, the most recent game I bought from Limited Run Games is Grandia HD Collection for Xbox.
I do sometimes enjoy buying their releases. But only if it's a game I really want to own. Most of their stuff though, I don't care so much anymore.
A lot of it also gets retail releases in other territories later down the line. So the fear of missing it isn't so big anymore.
I spent $1000s in LRG games, your research and every tiny thing you mentioned is 100% accurate and thorough, which is amazing for someone who isn't a regular of them 👍
14:06 I think this may mean they had an auction starting at .99 but also best offer and they accepted an offer before anyone else bid.
I used to buy a lot of unnecessary games from limited run but now I’m only buying games I actually like. Most of the games they release now are very common and doesn’t go for much more on eBay. It’s only the older games that are worth a lot (ie. pirate’s curse on switch)
I think there should be a limit of purchase, i mean if you buy more than one copy of the same game i think it would be pretty clear what they intend to do with it right? maybe 2 is the limit as some might buy one for themselves and another for a friend or other relative but more than from the same buyer would be too much as you know they are probably scalping it.
I waited just slightly over two years for my LRG order to arrive. Yes it was a special edition but still unreasonable.
Other companies are guilty of it too.
the unwatchable comment freezeframe before going to the eBay listings got me 😂
Great video ande those are fair critizums I have a dozen of so collector's of LRGs and I also get mine on time and they are always high quality.... Though I have gotten comments about the shipping times for some of my veiwers being bad.
I like Limited Run, I do understand why people don't though or don't have the patience for waiting for them to show up.
So far I've done well with keeping up with all their releases and have a complete set of their switch releases.
There is a big market for putters, and yes they are brought to the greens. I've never seen one go for that price, the most expensive I've seen, as new, was around $500
Idk if someone else has posted it but for the LRG cards they have the 3 different cards for releases (which they have stopped doing now). They have the original print plate which is only ever 1 of and they only were randomly given with a collectors edition purchase, the gold stamp (rare one I think only 100 or so of them were made) and the common silver stamp. I actually have a few gold stamp switch ones and actually have the print plant from The Duck Game. I'm a collector as well and switch is going to last a long while it seems. So far I have every single switch game they have released on their website. I also don't intend on ever getting rid of my collection and just have to find time to chew through my backlog of 2000+ games. Love your videos even if I am a watcher and non-commenter.
I have a few LR games; KOTOR 2 and a couple others. I bought them on pre order so that’s cool. Took a long time to get to me
So funny enough, a lot of these Limited Run Games releases are general releases in Japan, so if you missed out on stuff like Akaikatana from LRG, check if there's a Japanese copy. 99% of the time its playable in English
I couldn't stand the last owners, if you watch their interviews they were embarrassing. But the big issue is the way they chose to run their business, taking money and holding it for months and months. I actually think when they got bought out the delays got better.
I bought a few of their games during the first few years. Over time, I soured on them completely. I don't hate what they do as far as limited print runs of physical games... it's very likely the only way they can stay profitable, and the only way a lot of indie games would even get a physical release. The investors and scalpers do suck, but they find their way in wherever there's money to be made.
It's the ridiculous wait times and poor service that killed my interest. After year-plus waits, games arriving damaged, and slow response times to any issues made it untenable.
I opened all of mine to play. Yeah, they're small print runs, but it's not like vintage games where everyone threw away the packaging and we all opened our games. Even if they only printed 2000 copies of a game, guaranteed 1800 stay sealed, and they've absolutely flooded the marked with hundreds of releases. They won't carry the value of sealed cartridge and CD games of the '80s and '90s. They will be more expensive than standard releases, but nothing like the classics, much like vintage baseball cards and comics.
Also, there's often an Asian or PAL release of the same games, in english, available elsewhere on major releases.
The only stuff I purchase from LRG is their PSVR titles and PS3 titles (if they continue with them). This is due to having a full PS3 set and a full PSVR set.
Other times I will grab a game if its one I would play, some Star Wars for example, Stranger Things, Shantae, Scott Pilgrim..
I was lucky enough to also grab Jak 1 collector boxset on pre-order, so I continued pursuing the remaining collector boxsets on pre-order and own those.
Here’s my tip for buying LRG games. Every year they have their annual Blowout Sale, where they sell off “excess copies” of many of the games they produced at their original prices. (Goes to show how artificial their scarcity is). This is actually how I got most of the LRG games I have. You avoid spending a fortune on the games on eBay, and since these games are already produced and sitting in their warehouse, they ship out in a matter of days instead months or years.
Blowout sale was crap this time site wasn't working for a bit then when it did all the games worth having were sold out already
For limited run releases, I've decided to just buy the game by itself. They are a lot cheaper and ship faster than the big box collector's editions
I've only ordered one title from LRG. Trip World for Game Boy. I knew when I ordered it it would be a while. It's been 10 months so far.
I LOVE artificial scarcity. OMG I LUV LRG!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YES YES YES BUY BUY BUY
I have always loved lrg. Great customer service and excellent products. It's not Amazon, you place a order for a item to be made. Also you should be aware of material shortages for production, pandemic etc.
My goal is to get as many turnbased RPGs as possible so I do buy LRG games. I also buy anything that seems cool in general and some of those are LRG, but I'm not going for a complete set. I have maybe 30 or 40 small batch publisher games in total (ie: LRG, Strictly Limited, Super Rare, etc).
If one didnt open these how would you know what is inside?
I dont know, is it even possible to reseal these items once opened? Like, something had to seal them to begin with!! Are the sealing machine unobtainable? I doubt that.
That's happened before. One case that I remember is from 20 years ago, a guy was shrink wrapping opened boxes of NES games, he was trying to sell them on an old NES forum back then and was eventually caught doing so and was arrested for it.
I have the Kung Fury Switch release from Limited Run, and I'm waiting on a copy of Contra: Operation Galuga also for the Switch. That thus far is all I've purchased to date. I like the idea of the company and I like that occasionally they make something I'd like to have on the shelf. I waited about six months for Kung Fury and I'm told to expect 6 months for Contra. So it goes!
I don't believe that LRG have much in the way of actual value on the second hand market. People post listings on eBay with crazy prices, which gives the flase impression of scarcity and inherent value. Whenever you see an LRG listing for a crazy price on eBay and it shows as being "sold", that does not mean that any actual trade took place. In fact, there was a very credible theory that LRG employees themselves were making said eBay listings in order to inflate the perceived value of their own brand.
In terms of actual worth; I think you could typically expect to pay either the same amount that the original game was sold for on LRG's site, or slightly more. They're really not worth that much.
I ordered "Parasol Stars" for the PS4 in July 2023 and I'm still waiting :(
This guy is watchable.
I dont own any LRG games but I have been interested on some of their offerings. Seeing how things are turning out i prefer not to buy any at all except if i see those in a garage sale or Goodwill but I doubt that would happen on this decade.
I'll never buy from limited run directly again had to many bad experiences dealing with them.
And most of the games aren't that hard to come by you just have to be patient, I got 3 of the PS4 Shantae games for £30 each recently they where open but in pristine condition, the less desirable games you can usually pick up for less than limited sells them for even sealed.
I bet that Vita LRG eBay listing sold for $349,999.98
I own a few games from Limited Run. My only complaint is the amount of time to get the game.
Strictly Limited Games is the worst. They're like a minimum 16 month wait. I had one game that took almost 3 years to arrive
@@zachary_attackerywhy I stopped ordering from them
I like LRG, but they really ought to be made to order or something. Some of their older releases would be nice to be able to still order. They want to keep physical alive, yet are like a weird problem with physical releases at the same time. I've gotten a few releases, and yeah I've waited over a year for one or two, but they still came through. Even with a replacement for TMNT Radical Edition that somehow never arrived according to the shipping. So they've got extras somehow, but probably not many. But yeah, investors need to stop looking at games like a commodity and stop scalping and stop sealing games in acrylic. It really defeats the purpose for people like me who just wanna play the damn discs and carts lol.
A few retro re-releases and a few Switch games, and I bought nearly every Vita release, only missed a few. And not a moment too soon because Limited Run started becoming a worse company not long after that which I can no longer morally support. Blind boxes come with an actual random game that they had extra or got shipped back to them. It usually also has the cards in there with it. Each game typically comes with 2 cards. There are silver stamped (common), gold-stamped (rare), and the printing plates are extremely rare.
I do not buy LRG due to the insane lead time
Thumbs up this comment if you found the TWO hidden Ouyas in the video. Please don't timestamp them. Thanks.
The wait is real.
Resellers make me sick.
I like your videos
Turn the damn stock music off!
Thanks for another entertaining video.
The value is in the cart/disc! It's on your screen! Recognize the true worth of box art and plastic wrap in comparison. Should boxed games cost more? sure. but not THAT MUCH! Maybe the game has 50 backrounds. How long would it take for you to draw 50 backrounds that actually look good? Do you know machine code? People had to learn an exclusive computer language to make all this happen, and other people are ruining their finances over box art and plastic. just my opinion.
I only get the games I’m going to play
Be honest: you bought the Transformers putter.
The numbers don't add up for these listings because if you just add what a game cost plus shipping its way off from the asking price what these individuals are asking for? Point is do your research before buying video games because scalpers and especially people dealing with Wata will scam you every time!
The games are good they just take forever to get the game!! Streets of rage 4 I grabbed then I found out it was 2 years release I said forget it I cancaled my order they blocked me lol but they are not bad games are good
didn't they release poop slinger on ps4? that game is extremely valuable.
No, that was Limited Rare Games that was trying to knock off Limited Run Games
You are hilarious.
I'm really done with buying limited runs physical copies of poorly remastered games. So many of the 16bit/32bit games they put out are trash emulation rush jobs.
horrible company
i have this many limited print games:
126 switch
72 ps4
8 ps5
7 vita
213 total. I try to buy every “good” limited print game - generally something i deem is at least an 8/10 or higher - and also none of them are ports of old games like jak & daxter and far cry or whatever
im definitely a gamer before a collector though. I probably would never have discovered some of my favorite games of all time like outer wilds or disco elysium if i didnt have physical copies waiting for me on my shelf
They won't still be making Switch games in 15 years. Nintendo will have cut off production for them by then.
I still don’t know why you keep thinking there’s gonna be no physical games man. I know there are talks about it sometimes but it’ll never go away. But I can’t stand LRGs.
Have you been inside Target or Best Buy lately?
@@GamingTheSystems1I’m in Canada east coast. We don’t have a target and where I live we don’t have a Best Buy. But our GameStop and Walmart are packed. Sorry if I came off pissed or something, just a lot of people keep saying it, but I feel it’s not going anywhere soon.
7:12 - Ouya
The user reviews for limited run games are trash, I wouldn’t spend a cent on that scam website. I can’t believe your promoting this
Promoting? Did you watch the video?
I wonder how much a complete in box collection of all the nes games ever made.
To me these wouldnt count towards a full set. I tend to draw a line with what i spend my money on regarding my interests. I dont buy collectors editions, figures or other merch and i wouldnt buy these. To me they are glorified bootlegs. Each to their own though. X
So I'm a "re-seller", well I have a small business that only operates online so no overhead renting a space but I do have a shed in which I fix old game systems, refurbish systems and games etc. basically keeping retro systems alive. I also, just like any other business, buy games for the lowest price I can get them; and sell them for market value or as close as possible. So my questions is: why tell people not to buy from "re-seller's"? that's like saying don't buy from a business because they do the same as me but at a larger scale. If a business is asking for too much money for an item, then don't buy and watch the price come down. It's simple supply and demand. Don't buy from scalpers, buy from small businesses. But generalizing all of us small business owners and telling your fans not to buy from us is not a thought out plan.
I don't understand the criticism of them. If I like a game, or they have a game that looks like it would be good, I buy it. That's it. These things have like a 2 month pre-order window. They haven't done those releases that "sell out in seconds" in years. Everything is an open pre-order. They make however many people order. Waiting forever for the games to arrive should be expected at this point, that's just how long it takes with all these companies. I don't understand what the issue is unless you're some insane person that has to have a "complete LRG collection". That whole thing with them firing someone for following Republicans on Twitter was completely stupid and they SHOULD be criticized for that, but it doesn't really have anything to do with the actual games they sell.
They rereleased Shantae on 3DS recently (this year iirc), and it was a limited amount of preorders that sold out in the same day. I saw it in the first hour of the email, then checked later after work and it was already gone. Not everything is limited like that, but it still happens.
@@nharde466 Yeah but that was already released on regular consoles (PS4 and Switch) with a normal release that everyone could get. The 3DS release was like a "special" thing. If you wanted a physical, portable version you could have bought the Switch one
capitalism
Ewh... Streets of Rage 4 is a disappointment.
1 view, im built different.
This guy is unwatchable 😂👍
For shame @adamr6559
Support gog for a better digital future :)
Agreed. GOG is always my first choice when looking for games.
Naming a company "Limited" is such a disingenuous move.