“I hate you” = weak, ineffective, impersonal, does not convey disdain “I hope your favorite game gets a physical release from Limited Run Games” = strong, effective, targeted, conveys immense disdain
@@Xman34washere I only barely talked my friend out of throwing money the Persona 3 Special Edition. Lord knows he would've been super pissed having to wait months if not years just to get that shit.
Curse you. Tomba was announced for release through limited run. I was so happy I cried, when it was announced. After seeing this video I'm crying for a different reason.
@@felixdaniels37 Atlus will release Persona Q2 a Nintendo 3DS game in 2019 and give that a physical release but the remasters of P3P and P4G just get limited run.
This just goes to show you that the future of game preservation lies with the communities that actually play the games. Corporations aren't your friends. Accessibility is just as important as preservation, and the emulation community has understood that for the past 20+ years.
Community "preservation" is 100 percent ethical because it's the only viable option that can't be arbitrarily turned off or constrained for the sake of artificial scarcity.
Wow, LRG are so generous. I can believe they helped out the tiny indie studio, Electronic Arts, with their Command & Conquer Remastered physical edition. Such a hidden gem of a game.
as soon as i got a digital code instead of a physical copy i would have rioted. i have bought from this company before but i would have absolutely lost my shit if that ever happened. i couldnt imagine only getting a $10 refund for something like that too. absolutely unbelievable
Also the fact that most people don't even get the chance since they only have like ten copies of a physical game for $100, that tryhards buy the second it comes out at midnight. It's a shame how hard it is to buy physical media now a days.
I've only known of him from the Terminator OST for Genesis, I believe, and was rather dumbfounded when it turned out he has a long story of controversies to his name. Still, the OST is a banger.
@@JeanMarceaux Probably because there’s a huge chance Tallarico didn’t compose anything and took credit. The original composer for Terminator commented under a music video for “Visions,” it was discovered that Black Dawn Action Theme/Molten Mine was composed by a completely different person, and who knows what else wasn’t composed by him. I’m convinced Global Gladiators was someone else’s composition too
You know who’s REALLY going to preserve gaming history? People who rip games onto their hard drives, upload them to servers, and those who keep the servers alive. Mike in Michigan who’s got a basement full of retro games doesn’t do shit for the general gaming community.
I mean yeah definitely. But hey, if people want to have a collection, go for it. I have a decent sized one myself. But you're right, they aren't the saviors here lol
@@Jakco808 Sure, yeah, do whatever butter’s your toast. But I’m just OVER collectors acting like they are doing some noble cause by having a shrine to video games. There’s just a consistent air of obnoxiousness that comes from (some) collectors.
Imagine Mike dies leaving behind his collection of unopened NES games and a fully working NES. This boon is 1000x more helpful to a presevationist than the people running rom servers.
The real preservationists are those working on emulation (especially accurate emulation) and are dumping games. It might be piracy now, but when all physical units inevitably break down, it'll be the only way to play. And because it's just software, we can keep it around no matter where technology goes in the next 100 years or so.
It's also helped by fan translators giving people what's essentially a localized version that they can play so franchises can develop overseas fanbases without any cost to the publishers. That's basically what happened with Metal Max but the dev failed to capitalize on it.
I don’t particularly like emulation, but overall it’s necessary. Not everyone is gonna buy a cartridge from 1988 and thus will play the game for free via emulation. Not to mention that although it’s possible to keep cartridge games going through resoldering damaged ports or possible to repair disc games though resurfacing, but disc rot is a thing via the glue that holds discs together going bad and rotting away the discs plus you can only repair a cartridge so much until it inevitably starts working. Collecting physical copies is a short term solution to keeping games around that are no longer on the market while emulation is free and protects those games until the software possibly gets lost. Just do whatever you want and experience games in whatever way you like, personally I’ll collect anything I can afford and then experience the other games through emulation.
Digital pirates are always better preservationists than corporations. No artificial scarcity. No planned obsolescence of physical media reading devices. No on-disc DRM. They solved the final obstructions that physical media put in the way of preservation.
My first and last experience with LRG: I ordered an "IN STOCK" game, meaning it was already printed and sitting around at their warehouse. There was nothing extra included, it was just the game, so I expected shipping to be processed quickly. It took them 2-3 whole months to finally ship out the item after I had already paid months prior. I will NEVER order from them again.
I ordered some Shantae games for the PS5 since September last year and they still haven’t shipped because the last game is still “in production.” Like bruh 😂
I have always thought about Limited Run Games as a cash grab that prays on people's fear of FOMO with limited editions, special editions and collectibles made in pitiful numbers to incentivize people spending mad cash but it's even worse lmao, imagine having "partners" who re-sell for even more profit. Your research was extremely well done, good job mate!
I remember a time when the "limited" part of gaming was pre-ordering from GameStop and getting a bunch of extra fluff and crap with your game (fancy box, stickers, soundtrack, lanyard, art book, etc.) Now, just getting the GAME ITSELF is a "pre-order exclusive" to be scalped endlessly. The gaming industry has really gone to shit
It really is a kick in the pants when almost every single gaming related paraphernalia I’m interested in is locked behind FOMO tactics and having to sign up for *just* a chance to obtain such. Worst part is that gaming consoles are even more entrenched in this fad now too, though at the very least we can claim that hardware shortages definitely hurt stock too.
I miss all the extra items that games used to come with; especially the soundtracks disks, now days it's only in the collection edition of the game the costs over $100.
Dear God how i wished you'd messaged me before you put this video out XD Aaero: Put up the price by an extra $5 literally the moment it went up for sale, neglected to mention it to anyone. Turns out they'd put the price up because they decided last minute that they were going to put the DLC on the disc after a number of people complained. Lawbreakers: An online only title, where the small print mentioned that it had offline functionality but neglected to mention that only the tutorial was available to play offline. By the time people received the physical copies of the game, the servers were closed, so had essentially sold people a shiny coaster. Curse of Money Island Collection: The boxes have been misprinted, and it also turns out that a number of discs and USB sticks with the game on it, cannot be loaded, or are simply missing files entirely. Asterbreed: Some discs were misprinted, and didn't have any data on them. You wouldn't know this unless you opened your game and tested, so plenty of people either bough them from LRG with no data on the disc, or bought them sealed from scalpers only to find there was no data on the disc. Metronomicon: Personally suffered from this one myself. Bought the physical game and OST bundle, and received an empty box with the title of the game slapped on the label. Literally, an empty box. Multiple people complained about the same issue, only to find out LRG had started taking them out of peoples hold orders (when hold orders were still a thing) so they could get the single orders out to people faster, and had to resort to buying copies from scalpers on eBay to give to the people they'd sold them to in the first place. One Step From Eden: The game was available to buy as a physical Japanese copy, that had every language on it including English...... Right up until LRG got ahold of it to publish it for the US, then mysteriously, and had NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM lolololol, the Jap version announces that it no longer has English on it, just every other language. Crossing Souls and Swords of Ditto: Printed the wrong covers on the manuals, but made sure to slap that extra $5 on the price tag for the privilage of having a manual in the box. Between misprints, missing data, missing packages, scalpers, personally being called a prick by Douglas Bogart (which i maintain is a badge of honour these days), there's plenty more where this came from XD LRG used to have forums, and oh boy if you could see some of the screenshots from that bad boy, i think you'd be little more than shocked XD Shall we also go into the topic of LRG's doxxing of another CEO of a different competitor company?...... Nah, that'd go too far right?.....right? ;)
Have you passed this evidence to the publisher/ developer? They are getting a damaged reputation through association. Can't stand Limited Scum Games. Why agree to an arbitrary physical sales number? I'd want to grow my business and have maximum sales potential. Horizon Chase Turbo, Valfaris and many others don't use them and thankfully SOR 4 and Star Wars games have had mainstream releases
I think my favorite part about this video is during the customer support chapter, all the background footage is just a compilation of norman reedus eating shit and dropping all his stuff. Very fitting given the part about the damaged product in shipping
One item I was disappointed with was the comic book reproduction that came with the doom collectors edition. It wasn't normal comic size and it looks like it was printed on an inkjet printer.
The shadow box itself has dust inside the glass and chips in the paint of the background so no matter how much I try to forget about it, it’s just there. Ugh
the whole "independently operated store inside another store" is actually a real and not hypothetical thing. in the UK, when a bunch of GAME (a gaming store) shops got closed, the guy that owned them literally just put them in Sports Direct (sporting goods stores) shops and called it a day. literally just a gaming store surrounded by soccer balls and running shoes that NOBODY would care to access over a regular gaming store
Do you know what the idea behind this businesses decision was? I would understand it if, perhaps, it were a small kiosk that catered specifically to sports-related games, but while there may be some intersect between people who run or bike as a hobby and those who like to be couch potatoes, I can't imagine it's too profitable?
@@oddhate it was pretty much just that the GAME shops were failing and the worst performing ones had to be closed. he owned sports direct, so it's a way of telling people they still have a nearby GAME because it's just being supported by the sports direct that is closest to them. it's pretty much just life support
Some time ago i saw the Game logo above a store and for some ungodly reason i decided to go in but when i approached the store i saw that it was actually a Sports Direct. I figured there probably just used to be a Game here before and they just haven't removed the logo yet lol
To be fair the bigger, newer GAMEs in places like Birmingham are way nicer than the old ones, bigger and with their own arenas and teams. They're usually more full than before too, from my experience. Sports Direct has been health for the bigger locations. However I've seen places like Walsall where the shop has been turned into a tiny corner stall.
Can confirm LRG has bad customer service. NEVER place an order with multiple items, they won't ship until you ask where your stuff is. I've experienced this twice. On the order page, everything said "Ready" and in warehouse, both times I waited a month or so then finally contacted them and they shipped a day later. So apparently they have no system to notify them when all items are ready and they need to ship. Fairly mind-boggling. Or maybe they do it on purpose to encourage you to place an order per item? They do have the annoying policy where they won't ship until everything in the order is ready. So basically only order one item at a time. Another annoying thing is they just throw in the collector cards in the box, no card protectors or anything. They're just rubbing against the inside of the cardboard shipping box. I can confirm that I have gotten all my games, so they're not trash or scammers, they just have some annoying policies and practices.
ive also gotten everything ive ever ordered from them with no damage or issues whatsoever. it sounds like whoevers at the top is way too money hungry and theyre taking more projects than they can actually handle at a time.
Good, I placed my order prior to this video and I was getting scared if it was even going to come or if it would just be broken, so good to know some of you have gotten yours.
I made that mistake as well. "IN STOCK" for two items but something as stupid as another insert with the other artwork wasn't and it held the order back even longer. Customer service was gas station at night levels of no one cares.
Really was/ still is where the majority of preservation comes from. Who knows how much lost media we'd have if it wasn't for myabandomware or for r/roms.
Preservation is almost irrelevant selling point because there are already big communities that focus on that. We don't need a company to "preserve" games when we do it ourselves, better.
I often find myself compulsively collecting things I don't really enjoy, only to later regret it or end up with a bunch of plastic junk sitting around collecting dust. FOMO is a brutally manipulative marketing tactic, I see it a lot in board game campaigns on Kickstarter, also. Hope you continue making videos of this quality. Excellent work.
Unfortunately, I've sort of found out over the years that if something is sold as limited or collectors edition, it's not worth it and is often just padded out with low quality crap. This is not exclusive to the video games sector. Trying to force scarcity to drive up prices on the secondary market rather than letting the market police itself is fake at best and leads to corruption at worst.
You're better off buying a standard version of the game, and then some cool merch seperately. Like a high-quality figurine, statue or poster/signed art.
LRG is an amateur company. Deluxe editions from the past and from big companies (developers, record labels, etc.) are decent. Again: LRG is an amateur company.
Agreed but if you didnt have internet like me physical is literally the only way to go. Still havent downloaded my god of war ragnarok code because i dont have internet yet
@@patrickdetweiler8598 It is a problem. I am going to spend time at the local library when pokemon scarlets last DLC drops, so I can get the update. I am not going to have internet after the end of this month. So seeing physical media going away is frustrating.
I was personally attacked when you went into Shantae. I have all of the skateboards, all of the collector's editions across consoles, all of the standard editions across consoles, the slip covers, and at the time of this comment, I am awaiting the statue for my acrylics to be slotted into. Also at the time of commenting, less than 24 hours remain until Limited Run puts Shantae and the Pirate's Curse collector's edition for 3DS up for sale. It's some bullshit because there already is a physical 3DS copy (which I have). So 2+ years later, nothing's changed, though they did just barely roll out 'ship when ready' for mix and match orders. What's even MORE bullshit is that I'm feeling the strain to keep my collection complete and participate in the sale. I definitely have that lizard brain and I HATE it. Thankfully I only invest in Shantae, but holy fuck, do they have me. I am the problem and I've wasted a lot of money lol. We'll see how this comment ages
@@TwinBlasters "only invest in shantae." You are cooked. Sounds like you aren't collecting for the love of the media itself but you consider it a financial investment? I hope one day you break out from your corporatist shackles, it can get better.
@@Togutas Least obsessed shantae fan lol. There’s no saving these people from hyper obsessing over their fictional teenagers, I’ve never met shantae fan who doesn’t.
@@reallycool My Scott Pilgrim bundle arrived today (thank goodness I still have family at the address I ordered it to over two years ago!) I'll post again with what kind of state its in after work
LRG has accidentally sent me an extra copy of my orders 3 times. One of which was them messing up my order and sending me a regular copy of bloodstained: Curse of the moon 2. It had been so long since I preordered it, I completely forgot I ordered the collectors edition. A week later, I got my collectors edition, to my surprise. The other two extras is Shiren the wanderer (I only ordered the regular version of this one), and the collectors edition of The king of Fighters 2002: unlimited match (so I have 2 collectors editions). The fact that this happened 3 times and this was when I was slowing down my purchases from them speaks to how disorganized they are on keeping track of their orders.
This is not the first time I have seen Metal Jesus Rocks involved in price manipulation. For years that was a claim about him and his friend Kensey, as he would highlight a "gem" that she would conveniently have stock in at her store. I have also seen people aggravated that he will take a lesser known game and hype it up bigly, and then the prices go through the roof. Interestingly, since around this video, he has drastically reduced his video output, I havent seen Kensey anymore, and he doesnt really highlighy games.
Im kinda not suprised. Guy lives in one of the best areas for videogame collecting, really when he gets all cheeky for limited run/asphalt games, thats probably because youre sponsored by one and got a copy from limited run, while most videogame-collecting peons has to wait 😂
@@CaptButtonMash So bad to see John from DigitalFoundry, Audi, and a bunch of other retro gaming TH-camrs suck up to LRG too. Imagine MVG leaving Nightdive, where they're doing actual preservation work, to go work at LRG, and it seems like a massive joke at first glance.
I've always seen LRG as doing nothing other than enabling scalpers, I hate to see when a game I would like is artificially limited to 1 vendor, with controlled amount of copies, as someone outside the US, I simply just skip anything over there, even if it is something I want. Pretty sure if they had the opportunity, they'd do a penguin blackmarket, as well.
If LRG could stick one of their own relatives in a case they would if they thought they could con some elitist collector into FOMO. There is no reason for them or some of the other similar companies to exist
@@1stvinyl Anything to keep up the elitist, pretentious agenda. Physical copies for everyone to be enjoyed please. Not just the whale collectors and hipsters
@@robsmall6466 straight up! I want a physical to play, and then it the future I can go back and play it on my old Switch. Just like I did with my Gameboys.
@@aussieknuckles As it should be. A reasonably priced physical version available easily to everyone who would like a copy. Something you can keep and play in the future, part exchange or take over a mates house to show them and let them borrow or the other way round. It's always been like that right up to the 360/PS3/Wii etc. days with only a very few exceptions. No need to hide physical releases behind an elitist club that feeds on FOMO and resale
Wow this is crazy. I've only purchased 4 or 5 LRG titles and been lucky so far. No issues yet. I don't hoard or resell. I just purchase what I love in physical format. Thanks for the warning though.
Same here, all 4 Jak and Daxter collector's editions and that's it. Great products and not a terrible experience (other than them selling out in seconds and having to wait anxiously to see if I made the waiting list or not). Never again.
exactly. I don't want 90% of the games LRG makes, but if they make one game I.e. scott pilgrim every two years I can spend the money to get that game and just not buy they other games. The fomo part doesn't matter to me because I spend the money on just one game. Plus going to PAX for ten years I'll tell you companies keeping stock to sell at conventions is absolutely nothing new
Bought a game from them over a year ago, forgot about it because I only buy from them maybe 1-3 times a year, moved during that period, they sent the game without any email or warning, and it was is mailing limbo for three months. Even kickstarter projects several years late at least have the decency to contact me if their product shipping soon so they can ask for updated shipping details. No idea why a "more established" company can't.
I absolutely despise LRG. You wouldn’t guess it, given I’ve spent close to 2k with them. Yet out of all that money, I only have 3 physical games in my possession. Their business practices are shady, their release dates are not even suggestions at this point (some releases taking more than a year) and the most frustrating part, is that some games are only available via LRG, making it impossible to go anywhere else… I hate them.
TBH, if a company refuses to give me a refund for something that’s entirely their fault, they don’t need to ban me; I won’t be buying from them ever again anyways.
The collectible market has essentially destroyed the joy of being a kid. If I had known that my Star Wars, GI Joes, and Transformers toys would be worth thousands of dollars, maybe I wouldn't have played with them. The scummy nature of creating false scarcity is only going to get worse.
I'm in this limited run games collector's group (that is also the name of it) and the amount of people that haven't watched this video and are calling it dumb is honestly annoying tbh. The amount of collectors that spent thousands of dollars to LRG and claim to not be bias with their feelings towards this video is astonishing.
@@reallycool I mean, I'll still buy games from LRG simply because of a thing called return policy. I rather just resell a lrg game for a quarter of the price rather than keep a digital game I don't enjoy. But despite that, LRG has issues with several things like their shipping partners DHL being terrible, which I know isn't their fault but they did sign a contract with them. Plus I have seen a ton of packages/games being ruined due to their lack of packaging skills. It's also ridiculous how insane the digital-physical price differential can be. Like Doom 64 costing 5 USD in the eShop but having a 25 USD price, plus shipping, plus taxes. It often tends to become the biggest deal breaker for me but apparently I am one of the few in this fb group that's called dumb considering the price difference. Also, Playasia would sell games that LRG have and even have them around longer, like Samurai Jack is still up for sale in Playasia. So you always wonder if they actually do preorder stuff. Plus, it's kinda funny a company called Limited Run, happens to be 1 of Nintendo's biggest game publishers. Overall, I highly enjoyed your video and I was incredibly entertain. I will still probably buy games from LRG but now, with a bit of extra nervousness lmao XD
@@reallycool Don't ask questions! Just consume product and get excited for next product! On that note, I'm pissed at the fact that LRG and Wayforward decided to localize Kunio-tachi no Banka after nearly 30 years since its Super Famicom release, only to brand it as a prequel to their girly pseudo-spinoff that barely has anything to do with it outside the names of the two heroines. Would've preferred if the game had never been localized if that was going to be the way they were doing it.
@@charlesanthony4267 Most videogame communities are in general. I don't know what it is with people, but it's like they NEED their console of choice, favorite games, collection, etc to define them and give them validation that they're spending their time and money correctly. It's crazy how hard it can be to just find levelheaded people who love playing videogames and find the industry interesting without being a weird, biased, fanboy or something.
Others may have said it, but you missed the fact they do not let people cancel their orders. Would be much harder to take your time in getting product out if people could take their money back if they failed to meet delivery windows.
I made three orders a couple of weeks ago, requested two refunds of two games , they canceled and refunded me the total amount of both orders. I still have an order on the system just to see how it goes but I really don’t want to wait a whole freaking year and a half for a game that can be bought digitally or physical at a cheaper price from another region just because it’s a supposed north american version. I know they have value and the price can be raised by 4 times the regular price on ebay but is not so much worth it with every single game that they sell. I recommend Play Asia or similar stores , if you guys don’t want to wait so long for an LRG game, get an asian or european version instead lol plays the same crap jaja 🤣 I have also read that they ban buyers if you request refunds, if that’s the case then so be it. I’ll just wait for the order that i still have and never buy from their website again. You can find some games on their amazon store , too.
I'm still waiting for 3 games that I bought on limited run games last year every time I check the status of my purchases and all I keep getting is still in production its getting right on my nerves now.
I JUST started buying their stuff. Ordered the Scott Pilgrim vs The World fan edition and placed an order for some Zombies Ate My Neighbors bundles. Scott Pilgrim kept getting pushed back. First they said there was a shipping container shortage and that it would ship in Q1 of 2022. Then they said the vinyl record was delaying its release. I didn’t actually receive it until just the other day. Placed my order in January of ‘21. They never offered a discount on a future order or anything like that as an apology. The kicker was that the LP sleeve was very damaged. Still waiting on their reply…
This whole video I was like “they didn’t do a bad job on anything I got from them” then you talked the tribute games collection and I stared at it on my shelf.
This has been interesting, to say the least. I've been on a binge on LRG releases this whole year. I'm going to be more mindful of their practices now. Thanks for doing the research and sharing.
@@pt8292 Yeah I only ever buy standard editions. i don't own one collector's edition from LRG or anywhere else. Some of us just want physical versions. Some of us also accept that occasionally the physical editions might be missing some DLC or we won't be able to download a patch eventually. They will still be playable 50 years from now though.
@@reallycool - I wanted to reply to one of your messages in hopes that you would see this. Thank you for the massive amount of work and research you put into this vireo. I truly hope this gets some great traction as it’s obvious how much work you’ve put into this.
17:07 One of the greatest PR wins in gaming of the past decade was the palatable rebranding of "addicts" as "whales." I think we should call it like it is. Not to name and shame people that get roped in but because we should acknowledge it as evil to try and design your business model around roping in vulnerable people with addictive personalities.
seeing tommy talarico being mentioned a year before hbomb's video feels like when you meet that one cousin that you didnt think you ever saw before but turns out you had a playdate with when you were like 6
Watched this 4 months ago. And now they're popping up again by firing someone for guilt by association. In America, we have freedom of speech and freedom of association. They violate that principle.
You're completely wrong on that second half. Freedom of Speech does not apply to a social media website owned by a corporation, and even then, that protection only applies to public/government agencies, not ordinary people. Freedom of Association is protection against the state. LRG is not the state. Lastly, LRG is located in NC, an employment-at-will state, meaning that she could be fired for literally anything, which she was. I hate the company as much as the next guy, but get your facts straight.
@@brownandbloom Knock it off with the tired ass "they're a private company" excuse. Do you know why we're where we are? Because smoothbrains like you keep using that as an excuse for both small companies and big corporations to stifle any kind of speech. I couldn't care less you hate Limited Run Games, but the fact you think it is perfectly okay to let big corporations with too much money and power to run roughshod over people's ability to express themselves is absolutely 0 IQ. We already heard this argument for ages. You are arguing for YOUR OWN deplatforming in the future. But you don't care, because you never said or did a wrong thing in your life, RIGHT?
@@brownandbloom Except what they did was illegal according to North Carolina state law. It's funny you tried to pull the "Um actually 🤓☝️" only to look completely regarded
@@PeruvianPotato North Carolina is *one* state and they can't enforce it. Unless the company exists in North Carolina, which I'm not interested enough to even google, that is irrelevant.
adding to this, limited run recently made a steam developer account and it really shows that premium pricing does not equal premium production cost. unlike most collections, LRG keeps references to both of its steam games' emulation practices wholly unencrypted, even with references to emulation for games from consoles they haven't even put on steam yet and the roms themselves readily available for people to copy-paste or replace with other roms as they see fit. oh, and did i mention that these roms remove all references to former publishers or even what year the games came out? for reference, these edits are so shoddy that i could recreate the new roms entirely in about five minutes with tile layer pro. if that's not bad enough, these games have a newly added map feature, which is literally just images from vgmaps with the credit information cropped out. whilst they would not be the first to get caught doing, these particular maps have additional details, by which i mean an image-based strategy guide to the entire fucking game.
Oh man. You showed Night Trap. I really wanted that one, but when they were a) sold out in minutes and b) tons showed up on ebay almost immediately, I noped out from LRG permanently. EDIT: LOL at the Death Stranding montage when discussing shipping.
@@KlingonCaptain I'm late but so is the comment I'm responding to and the one above that. But I assume from the context clues of the comment and the overall topic, that OP was referring to a physical copy of the game not purchasing and owning the game itself.
When I think about limited I think about night trap, a wish people with more .... ernest ideas or principles were making phisical copies of games like this or 7th guest? But I didn't realize about the newer games that had no phisical versions...
@@Brandon-qu8hf Digital storefronts on Playstation, Nintendo and Xbox are flooded with thousands of games which never saw a physical release. That's where companies like LRG come in.
Thank you for making me aware of this. LRG was one of the main sources for physical copies I was considering down the line as physical preservation is very big with me.
Anybody else here after they fired that employee because her cyberstalker, the bronycon founder, said they were mad she was looking forward to the new Harry Potter game?
@@jesussilva201 The entire brownie community has basically disassociated themselves from purple tinker because this person if rumors are true has engaged in underage activity with a minor that should not be legal which it definitely isn't.
@@jesussilva201 Then there was also the fact that the brony person decided to dig through the now fired community manager's old tweets to find something to be offended by and because said community manager followed some social media accounts the brony did not like, such as LibsOfTikTok and some others I believe, they threw a hissyfit at LRG accusing the CM of being transphobic and all the usual shit. The tweet they discovered was I think from 6 - 7 years ago where the former CM expressed some concerns about pervs using a trans identity as a cover to allow them to enter women's bathrooms. This was the tweet that set the deranged brony in flames of fury.
Thank you for making this video. When I was in highschool I fell for this and bought a few games from them. The first game had the disc dislodged in the box and the second took almost 2 years to arrive. I knew this was feeding off FOMO. I knew something felt icky about this company. Thanks.for spreading awareness about their practices.
You'll catch a lot of flack from fans, but I fell out with them some time ago. Initially I bought from them because I bought into the preservation nonsense, plus I have that collector gene. Once it became clear that they were stretching the truth about preservation, and they were going to release WAY more volume than I wanted to collect... I was out, mostly. I'll still grab Shantae games, shooting games (more M2 Shot Triggers please!).. basically stuff I'd buy regardless of who published it. There was also that time that they double-shipped an entire order, then threatened to charge me for them if I didn't return them at MY expense. And after I brought it to their attention by requesting a shipping label, which they did finally provide after 5 weeks or so.
I get the collecting bug but. If your buying a modern game solely on investment then your gaurenteed to be disappointed in the long run. This isn't new I would buy good games like sotn or silent hill a decent prices and I laugh when a remaster is released and all these folks watch their "investments" decrease. Hell I bought the grey turok rage wars cause I wanted the corrected version BUT I paid 2.00 for it and couldn't help but sell it when it was 200 plus when I needed money. Granted it's much more than that now but it wasn't worth THAT much to me to get past that frag tag level and I'm sure a rom exists if I ever get the itch to play it again
@@BladeAssassin Yeah, assuming they live in the US, they're legally allowed to keep whatever got sent to them and they weren't required to send it back
Commenting to say that LRG has dug their grave even further by firing an employee for who they follow on Twitter just a few days ago. Now every post they've made since is swamped by hundreds of comments about nothing but disdain for them. It's beautiful and well deserved.
Sorry but, how do we know that was the actual reason? All I can find are articles that talk about it based on speculation, but where is the actual proof of that?
@OMA2k because LRG tweeted it out. They did it for the sake of equality and inclusivity. They said in the tweet also that they investigated the issue and felt like firing her was the nest choice to create a "safe environment". LRG heads are bat wing crazy leftist trash. I'm glad Embracer bought them out. Hopefully this stuff stops.
LRG just opened a physical location in NC. It's only opened on weekends and typically has a line when they open in the morning. I went the first 3 weekends to pick up some odds and ends. Each time there were several customers buying literal stacks of collectors editions that they would pile along the wall by the registers adding to their stacks while looking up resale prices on their phones. There were more than a few customers walking around with binders of info that they were cross referencing with their stack of product. I don't make a habit of eaves dropping, but at least a couple of people were on their phones securing resales as they were shopping. One guy dropped about 4k in one sale and I believe (wasn't my business so I was only half paying attention) he bought as many collectors editions of a single game as he could carry. Another was bragging that he makes at least 20 bucks reselling each game he buys. I can confidently say there are alot of proffesional resellers who benefit from LRG. I can't say whether LRG cares or not, but it was sort of blatant I can't imagine they didn't know what was going on. This is just my personal observation for anyone curious. I'm not making any definitive accusations. There are some people buying stacks of games who legitimatly want to own several copies of a game. High five to them. However, the ones with binders running around making deals like they were on wall street were a little...sus. lol.
A scam. How many have association with the company? Limited Scum Games sell X game for Y price. Then no longer available. Surprise, surprise. It's now on Ebay at three times the price. Was the original sale genuine?
Worst part of being into niche genres like shmups is knowing that physical releases of the games you want will inevitably be scooped up by these limited publishers
True and there is no need. Why attach to an arbitrary sales number? Growth averse strategy. You want finance for a bigger and better game? Good luck doing it that way. Mass eyeballs are better than niche eyeballs. There are plenty of smaller games that don't use Limited Scum Games. Shoot em ups should join them
I although thought it was strange how everyone seemed to love it, since I always hated these guys because of the way they produce games. The whole “Limited Run” thing was always a sales tactic, was clearly done to trick people into buying stuff for ridiculous prices. I like the idea of physical releases of games that wouldn’t otherwise get it, but usually LRG isn’t producing a physical run of an important game no one can afford, they’re picking up the rights to games that sometimes would’ve got physical releases, and then selling a few copies to people who preorder, leaving everyone who missed that preorder time, giving them no option other than to buy them on eBay for a ridiculous price. It seemed like in the early days of my exposure to them, they generally were trying to get games that would never get physical releases on disc to be preserved, or at least their business wasn’t anywhere near as scummy, but it feels so sneaky and toxic nowadays and I can’t stand it. If they really wanted to preserve digital only games, they wouldn’t do a $30 release of a 1 cent game, they would make a massive compilation of a ton of them and release that on cartridge. It’s all done for profit and to rip people off.
I'm glad I got my 4 Jak & Daxter collector's editions and ended my support for them there. And I'm grateful those ones were at least high quality and worth the money.
The "love" was because a lot of influential collectors were promoting them,I remember that I started to criticize them on Twitter as soon as they made their first PS Vita release and got bad replies by other collectors of the Vita scene. In the end I have just stopped collecting this kind of releases.
I just remembered that LRG had a end of year sale where you could buy up a copy of a game that was released in the past for a set price. The catch? You had no indication of what you were going to get. You could only choose the console, and the game itself was completely up to them. And they even had the gall to have some games be less likely to be given out than others, down to the percentage point. This was kind of the biggest indication that this business was extremely sketchy. It would have been easier to just relist the surplus games, but they felt that it was best to do it in a way that might very likely end up with you getting something you already have, or just don't want. It's a very bad idea, and it's kind of emblematic of everything wrong with the company. Thanks for the very well done video, I'll be sure to stop supporting them.
I remember seeing this and thinking "what the fuck? At least be able to show proof of what you have so you don't get a duplicate". Lrg don't actually care
I suspect they did this in order not to piss the people who bought the game at full price off. The similar European company "Strictly Limited" also puts their unsold copies on sale, but they've choosen a different approach: the catch in their case is that the games are sold at MSRP, no discounts.
My comic book store does this. It's so shady. They have these paper bags for $5 and they let you choose what publisher or genre but you have no idea what you're going to get! They're called grab bags. It's a good way to clean out inventory and give the customer a deal. I doubt lrg was this fair but your description defines a grab bag that you at least know what you are more likely to receive. Plenty of other reasons to dislike them.
I was manufacturing and releasing a product when they announced they'd be releasing a competing product. I immediately reached out to Josh to see if we could work together as to not flood the market, maybe even work together to get costs down. He was "unprofessional". He publicly attacked my product to the media and on his forums. Even going as far as posting a negative review on my product on Amazon, something you're not supposed to do as a seller. Amazon eventually removed it and I believe gave him a warning. Their product was advertised as premium and they charged almost double what I charge (when you factor in they charge their customers shipping costs). Their product was identical. And because they couldn't compete on price they no longer sell theirs. To this day when looking at the reviews on my product you can sometimes guess who the LRG fans are. The cult is real.
@@nonyabiz9340 I'm happy to keep your information private. I am a registered journalist and understand confidential sources. If you decide to tell your story, contact me twitter.com/mrixrt
@@reallycool sounds good, I'm working in my office tomorrow night. I'll see how much I saved from my interactions with them before I reach out to you.. not looking to get anything published, just think you deserve to hear the details given the time and effort you put into your video.
YEAH, I love collecting old games and limit myself to things that have meaning to me. I see people going NUTS over limited run stuff and graded games (grading has literally always been a scam for every collectible) and that's just not fun!
I bought two things from them. My Scott Pilgrim game spent two years unsent. My friend received his months before i cancelled my order but was still waiting on the record. LRG told me they were waiting for the record to send me the game. Months went by and i finally cancelled. I ordered Shredders Revenge and moved months later. I told them to update my address and they said they updated my order. More months go by and they sent it to my old apartment. Never getting anything from them ever again
@@HayabusaZero I'm almost certain Metal Jesus had no idea about the state of Bird King and was likely only told this version of the game doesn't exist anywhere else but in these two games he obtained. He is not unfamiliar with unreleased games that just happened to have gotten printed before getting "cancelled".
@@HayabusaZero And there is alot more questionable stuff about him. I stopped following him after his "e-begging" scenarios, same with his "crew" like John Riggs.
So this is kinda embarrassing to admit but when I first discovered LRG I felt the FOMO need to buy as many games as I could just because I was financially stable at the time, years later I really regret most of those purchases
That's how they get you, everybody can fall under FOMO practices no need to feel embarrassed Be glad that you realized how bad FOMO is sooner than later
Well, I can thank my parents for never letting me have that need. Given that money doesn't fall from the trees, it was not common for me to buy full-price console games (sometimes even those at second hand), and therefore they only bought me games when I was more free from schoolwork, and _especially_ when I had mostly finished the games I already had. Now that I'm older and legally an adult, I could technically buy any game I wanted, but I still have restraint. There's only a couple games I do REALLY want, and I do pay attention to prices. Otherwise, I'll try and get them at sales, or even for free (that's why I do roam around the Epic Game Store every once in a while, I don't care for most of their deals, but some are pretty cool).
Yeah I've only gotten like ~4, and I've watched them for around a year, but that feeling when something you like comes on but you can't get it is *terrible* and really hard to control. I've always been a physical copy sort of guy, even with things like manga when you can read it online... just something superior about owning it IRL... but the way they do it just sucks.
Same. I bought dozens of their Vita games, thinking I struck gold. Somewhere I had convinced myself that this would truly be limited thing, and they would never get as big as they are now. A foolish tought, I realize now. Now I have more Limited Run releases than 'regular' Vita games and still miss out on many Vita staples that I was really interested in, which are now up for ridiculous prices on the used market, whereas most LRG releases haven't raised in value at all last time I checked.
I ordered a force unleashed masters collectors edition back in April 2022 as a potential gift for my partner. I followed up with customer service after 10 months like it said on the website that it would take that long. I was informed by customer service to check the website for updates. All the website said that was still in production and not ready. I kind of forgot about it for a while due to life and contacted them in May, since it has been a year by then. They told me I could expect it in September. I was a little annoyed but I've waited for much longer for items purchased in Kickstarter so I figured I just have to be a bit more patient. September came and went, nothing obviously, so I contacted them again they said they would start shipping in December and that they didn't have any more information about my order to just keep checking the website for updates. Well December has come and gone and still nothing. My order has updated with now shipping but i havent received a shipping email update. first and last time I ever buy from this company.
To throw my two cents in there, I actually sort of know a couple of the lrg guys, mainly through a couple of friends. Met them a few times. They are decent marketers and very good at playing the business game, which is how they secure so many titles. They have a TON of really good contacts and know how to work the industry. I’ve heard some really despicable off the record comments, specifically about how they cheap on printing stuff and how gullible collectors are. Just my two cents take it or leave it.
@@twerktospec Are you really on the edge of your seat dictating that someone should expose a random person's personal info in a youtube comment section? Man who hurt you
The real kicker is that while I can understand indie companies getting physical releases through LRG, as they wouldn’t usually do so to begin with due to being a small independent company. But I’ve started growing tired of huge, Triple-A companies having their physical releases exclusive to LRG, which’s become more commonplace recently. There’s of course Sega/Atlus having the physical versions of Persona 3 Portable and Persona 4 Golden being exclusive, but just recently, Sega revealed the collector’s edition for SonicXShadow Generations…which is exclusive to LRG. I’m already hesitant to get it for the price tag ($250, wtf), but to get the collector’s edition for a game I want to play on launch but realistically won’t see until late 2025, maybe even early 2026 due to how absurdly long LRG takes to ship collector’s editions? Yeah, no thanks. As if charging up front for pre-orders that takes ages to ship wasn’t enough, this company’s artificial scarcity is only doing more harm than good in the end by giving scalpers a way to sell these releases at a premium once they’re no longer sold by LRG itself. It’s why I’m glad that PlayAsia exists, since at least a lot of these same games get Japanese physical releases with English language support that aren’t limited, sold for way better prices and won’t take your entire lifetime to ship to you. So tl;dr, go with the chad PlayAsia over the virgin LRG.
As someone who's an impulse buyer when it comes to series they're really attached to and want things in their room to show for it, it was a really hard decision not to get the collector's edition Scott Pilgrim game at the time but now looking back months later I'm glad I didn't give in lol
This is why I'm not really attached to collecting games. Most youtubers that "collect" these games are only in it for the money like Phoenix Resale & Chase after the right price... etc. These types of youtubers are part of the problem with collecting in general.
"I can sell it later for more" is the biggest trap I see people have, i've had that problem too. What saved me was when I had things fall over in the middle of the night and I told myself I need to get rid of things.
It is a bad way of thinking anyway, not everything has to be for personal wealth. I personally collect video games, and I will take them with me to my grave. I don't care if they get more valuable, I won't sell them because it is my passion
I ordered the Star Wars Knights Of The Old Republic collectors edition when it came out for the switch. One of my favorite games of all time, and i just started making enough money to buy myself something cool. I dont remember the exact dates, but it was supposed to take around half a year to ship. A year and a half later, with 1 singular email update I got the game. I wont lie, the product is nice and well made. But the orginal "vibroblade letter opener" that was advertised, was changed to a plastic and metal display piece with no explination. A year and a half wait and a changed product with 0 compensation.
Within literal hours of sale closing for the Shantae GBC collector's pack, it popped up for upwards of triple the price on ebay. I got lucky to even be able to put money toward a copy at all, since it was marked as sold out almost immediately.
Which has never happened to repros before Limited Run Games started doing them. They even release repros of games that were already cheap on the used market to begin with and they then end up being worth more than their official release.
I didn’t have to know all this about Limited Run to know that they aren’t really about true preservation. When I started seeing games launch incomplete it was an immediate red flag. When I saw how truly LIMITED their games were printed it was an immediate red flag. When I saw their games being sold for way too much on eBay I knew it was a scam. I hope a company can learn from their mistakes and enter the market for the next Switch. I think LGR also cannibalized a smaller portion of the market that would have had developers push for publishing their games through a more established/less predatory company or to even self publish. They basically have a duopoly with Super Rare. Would be better if Limited Run could change their ways but will see if they are still around in 5 years and if so what their business looks like. I doubt it will change and you are probably right about the whales who make up the majority of their sales.
I was gutted when I found out I missed the No More Heroes switch physical copies, then I found out that Asia received a physical release, with English language included, and the Switch is region free 🤩. Check your options people.
about 4 minutes into the video you already said the one thing I hate about Limited Run games. They do ONE printing of a game and that's it, if you want a physical it's off to ebay to find a $300 copy of the game........or spend $80 for a physical import cause Japan printed the game en masse......or just wait a few years/weeks to find that same game on Gamestop/Target/Walmart for $40-$60 because another studio got publishing rights to it so what was the point again?
If you ever feel pointless remember LimitedRunGames did Power Rangers Battle for thr Grid for 60 dollars with S1 DLC. And then MaximumGames sold the same game with the same content for 30 dollars AND THEN MaximumGames released the Super Edition WITH ALL DLC for 50 dollars.
I'm still waiting for the Radiant Silver Gun preorder to show up... it's been a year and three months. Here is a pro tip: if you buy anything from these guys get the vanilla version of the games . Don't get any of the collectors editions that come with the paper trinkets and Burger King toys. It takes years for this junk, get the disc and box and forget about it.
I have never heard of this company until now. It just seems like a business capitalizing on collectors. Everyone knows that pirating, and online communities are what preserves digital media.
I only wanted to buy Scott Pilgrim physically because the game was already delisted once. It'll most likely be delisted again and I don't wanna go through emulation or piracy like I already was to play it if I either lose my account or the Eshop closes or something like that. I ordered the Special Edition because it was my birthday and I felt like treating myself with a semi-neat collector's piece. Ordered it on my birthday, took about 6 months to arrive. Which is fair. Though the account I ordered it from said I had no pending orders and I never got a tracking number, it eventually arrived right around the time I was looking into the issues. And what I got was... disappointing. The box it came in was not molded to fit the Switch case, instead it had 2 plastic bars holding it together that fell out as soon as I opened the box. The contents inside were okay, but they were also all stuffed below the switch case instead of in a manual holder on the side, which didn't exist and would've made sense. And the "freebie" concert ticket? shoved into the game case with nothing holding it. And of course finally playing the game, I found out Knives Chau was only unlockable via connecting to a Ubisoft Connect account, which is online only content. If I lose my save and the servers shut down, Knives is no longer playable. Good game preservation here. Sure, Knives is a character in an otherwise complete game, but it's the little things that irritate me the most. And after watching this video, the only real preservation way at this point, is piracy. I'd be better off playing the game on my hacked PS3 with all the DLC installed on my console for free then buying the physical cartridge cause at least then I know I can play the game in its entirety offline. I'll probably not be supporting Limited Run from now on.
I found out about this exact problem a month after I pre-ordered my PS4 copy of the collector’s edition. I’ll still enjoy the game for what it is, but Limited Run should’ve tried to convince Ubisoft to make Knives and Wallace a part of the base game before they released it on modern platforms.
Brilliant in-depth video. As someone who’s been aware of certain shadiness for a while now, there’s still somethings in here I wasn’t aware of. Although I think the “It’s not about the Shiren situation” was true, it was about me telling people to be aware of the One Step From Eden situation.
@@RiotSRetro Limited Run prevented English from being on the asian release’s cartridge of One step from Eden, which completely defeats the purpose they claim to serve.
@@fuglytard1293 Apparently, for the first of the two Jak and Daxter runs, Naughty Dog told them it would be a good idea to print a comically low number for that batch. They didn’t know it wasn’t nearly enough for everyone interested until it sold out in seconds and all the remaining Jak and Daxter fans were peeved at the comically low batch size. Limited Run said that due to the whole “Limited Run” thing they couldn’t sell more for the first batch of sells than advertised, but that they could change the batch size of the second sell.
@@everythingpony Jak, Jak 2, Jak 3 and Jak X all got collectors editions with a bunch of shit in them no one wanted and they were like 150 to 200 dollars for each. On ebay they're like 500 and up now.
I got a salty taste in my mouth EARLY on with LRG. When packages would show up damaged. And they would act like I was the bad guy for complaining about damaged purchases and want an exchange. Everyone was saying how great they were then. I am glad the public has finally figured out they are a money grab. And a pretty scummy one at that. It took the public a long time to seem to catch on though. I suspect LRG will have to make some changes somewhere down the road. Or they will start to see a major hit to their sales. You can only screw the pooch so long before the public doesn’t want to give you their hard earned money anymore. And a full blown recession is all but inevitable pretty quickly here. Times are gonna get even tougher than right now. And these game purchases are not gonna come before food, rent and transportation…
Honestly though that id EVERY company under the sun. I'm actually pretty sure I never managed to get some kind of refund, it always ends up somehow being my fault or not being covered
Well, I'm glad I got my 4 Jak & Daxter Collector's editions and then got out right then. And I'm glad my money was at least well spent in that, the products I ended up getting were great, exactly what I hoped for, though it was frustrating watching them sell out in literally *seconds* with all the scalper bots. I managed to get the two I missed (TPL and 3) through a form they posted after they sold out, which was a waiting list for the copies they clear out from bots. I feel for all those who got worse options or have been waiting for a long time for what they already paid for. And I sure won't be supporting them anymore.
I wish I saw this a month before I did back in 2021. I pre-ordered Star Wars: TFU back in late-summer 2021. It's now Jan. 2024 and there's been a whole 2 emails about updates on the process of development for this, I uh. Yeah. Do your research before purchasing kids, otherwise you'll be going on year 2.5 still waiting for a product.
@@alexingram4337 gonna make a company named "I kill Animals" and when people complain im gonna say "ummm it's literally in the name why are you complaining"
@@alexingram4337 and yet they say its all in the name of preservation, why would they make their runs so limited if they actually __were__ all in the name of?
Watching this way after it released, and holy shit, this is so on point with several past shopping experiences and some general discomforts that I have with the company. I watched the whole video; it has aged super well and needs to be spread around more. Extremely well done here!
I live in NC and Could Literally just drive 1hr to Get A Limited Run Game. One time I decided to buy one on it website that it currently available because I did not want to make the Drive. Took 2 month to get it. Went there twice and saw it in the shelf at the time. They would not let me grab one and mark it a Delivered even though it still was not shipped.
I was mostly fine with LRG until their recent Jedi: Survivor collector's edition. There were already red flags going off in my head, since EA was going to LRG to release the collector's edition (you know, EA, one of the biggest publishers on the market?), but I went for it anyway because I love the series and wanted the lightsaber that came with it. The game arrived a week after release, the physical copy was the same as any you could buy in any store, and the lightsaber was the same as the one they sold at Disneyland that I already owned, it just had a different battery cover to fit the look of the lightsaber in Survivor. Just a month or two later, Disney Parks started selling a newer, better version of Cal's lightsaber that changes color. Basically, LRG repackaged existing product (which Disney most likely was looking to get rid of), sold it at a semi-jacked up price, and gave really nothing that you couldn't have gotten elsewhere. I still have my collectible box though! Woo! (Edit: Man I'm tired of "collectible box" being a selling point on a lot of these games)
Man, I wish I found this video a year ago. I don't like having to buy digital if I can avoid it (rather have something in my hands and be solely responsible if it messes up), but I've been waiting since March for a collector's edition of a game that already got deliveries for other consoles back in November - and it's almost February now. I have been debating trying to get my money back, but that sounds just as impossible after this video; plus, I used a Visa gift card to avoid using my own credit card, so I don't know if they can send my money back or even if I still have that particular card. This really wasn't worth it.
It took so long for them to deliver my Scott Pilgrim physical version, like it was absurd. Amazingly well researched, scripted, and edited video. Glad to know there’s other companies out there and less predatory companies.
I just wanted to say thank you for this video and the information in it. I've been fighting with myself to stop buying and it's become a problem for some time. I keep saying that's it. No more. And then before I even get the products I purchased I'm already infatuated with another and I'm buying that one as well and it consumes my mind with frustration and it hurts. I appreciate the list of reasons that you have explaining why a person like me would do this. Anyway, I hope this helps me. I'll try to send this video to my friends as well.
@@AsurasWrath164 I have only reduced the number of games I buy considerably. I still buy some but I can resist now. I'm doing better but it's not perfect. This was an amazing year for new games but I barely cared for the great majority fortunately.
@@AsurasWrath164 oh, I don't buy a single game from these supposed game preservation companies like LRG, Super Rare, etc al. so that's a positive in my mind.
im gonna be honest the shantae statue problem makes my ocd go crazy at just the thought and im like omg i couldnt live with a broken statue like that it would drive me nuts
@@meropolis this is explained in the first half or so - if you missed it, basically metaljesus claimed the physical release for such n such game was possibly the rarest ever, which artificially inflated the value. if youve ever tried to find certain old games, especially *lost* games, youd know this is demonstrably and observably false.
Don't do that. No we shouldn't. Dude is one of the most wholesome TH-camrs to ever exist. And I'd bet my paycheck you hate that and just want to sling mud on him.
game collecting used to be such a fun hobby before it became an investment instead of just a game. I used to love physical collecting so much, now I can't stand it because it has been ruined by all the people getting into it just to make money
I use to work for a collectable company. All these things are common practices Selling the same thing renumbering them with multiple same numbers. Giving the elution that its rare.
I had no idea LRG did this and tbh it further cements my opinion that collecting videogames is turning into a big fucking scam, especially retro games. However, people really need to get some personal responsibility and stop buying these things just out of FOMO. I have no problem with them selling multiple versions of the same product with different colors because people like choices. But they're supposed to be just that, choices, you're not supposed to buy them all and if you do it's totally on you. I don't see what's predatory about selling things in different colours. Exploiting the dopamine rush you get when buying stuff isn't predatory, that's just marketing. What's scummy about LRG is the whole reselling of their own products to maximise profit, which i'm pretty sure is illegal. Operating under the guise of game preservation when limiting prints at every opportunity and artificially inflating the value of their products is the real problem here. And the Shantae thing... Just gross.
Collecting video games has always been a scam lmfao. The other difference is that prior to around 2013 it was at least pretty damn affordable to do so. Now it really is just the hobby horse of the super wealthy and/or those who wish to intentionally manipulate the market and benefit from the insanely artificial price hikes. It isn't about game preservation, it isn't about playing games authentically. The preserving had already been done and things like ODEs and flashcarts have given us the ability to play entire console libraries 100% authentically on original hardware for the cost of only said ODE/flashcart. If you collect games, you're probably someone with more disposable income then they no what to do with or you've just been pulled into the scam that is game collecting.
Exploiting dopamine is predatory. That doesn't change just because someone is making a poor choice to purchase multiple versions. Both of those things are true.
@@Aster_Risk You’re literally saying that everything that makes people happy is predatory then - that’s just stupid. Producing multiple covers / colours for things has been happening for literally more than a century. Just evaluate the cost and buy the one you want. If you have enough money and are stupid enough to want to buy everything, well, good luck to you. But for everyone else, it’s just a nice little choice to pick the one they like most.
every shady thing one might associate with "artificial scarcity" things, they do. it's a business model built around ripping off people under the guise of giving fans what they want
Castlevania Anniversary Collection was a $35 pre-order game. When it finally shipped and released, it went for $70 on Ebay. Then they announced Best Buy was getting their own version of it for $35 in the future. The value is currently $50 for it on Ebay. The real question is: Why did people pay $70 for a $35 game?
“I hate you” = weak, ineffective, impersonal, does not convey disdain
“I hope your favorite game gets a physical release from Limited Run Games” = strong, effective, targeted, conveys immense disdain
it happened to the persona fanbase
@@Xman34washere
I only barely talked my friend out of throwing money the Persona 3 Special Edition. Lord knows he would've been super pissed having to wait months if not years just to get that shit.
Curse you. Tomba was announced for release through limited run.
I was so happy I cried, when it was announced.
After seeing this video I'm crying for a different reason.
They exploit morons with too much money .
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@@felixdaniels37 Atlus will release Persona Q2 a Nintendo 3DS game in 2019 and give that a physical release but the remasters of P3P and P4G just get limited run.
This just goes to show you that the future of game preservation lies with the communities that actually play the games. Corporations aren't your friends. Accessibility is just as important as preservation, and the emulation community has understood that for the past 20+ years.
Community "preservation" is 100 percent ethical because it's the only viable option that can't be arbitrarily turned off or constrained for the sake of artificial scarcity.
Every time I hear corporations I just wanna become a communist
@@Onemanshowoff Do it. Nothing's stopping you
@@jmorales09 I'd rather not go hungry thank you
@@Onemanshowoff you want to cease to exist whenever you hear corporations? That’s a bit dramatic son.
Wow, LRG are so generous. I can believe they helped out the tiny indie studio, Electronic Arts, with their Command & Conquer Remastered physical edition. Such a hidden gem of a game.
Yes, but they can give a crap about their customers. Like OG supporters who had the ticket stubs to turn in for items. It was total B.S...
The physical edition was also a jewelcase with a download code
I'm so glad they could also help the small company Sega cause they think people won't buy collections cause there's no sonic shoe horned in
Does Sega not own wonder boy anymore? Or did they ever? Because I hate how to get the physical versions of these games I have to pay insane amounts
Does Sega not own wonder boy anymore? Or did they ever? Because I hate how to get the physical versions of these games I have to pay insane amounts
Limited Run: Keep physical forever
Also Limited Run: *Gives people steam codes instead of a disc*
as soon as i got a digital code instead of a physical copy i would have rioted. i have bought from this company before but i would have absolutely lost my shit if that ever happened. i couldnt imagine only getting a $10 refund for something like that too. absolutely unbelievable
Also the fact that most people don't even get the chance since they only have like ten copies of a physical game for $100, that tryhards buy the second it comes out at midnight. It's a shame how hard it is to buy physical media now a days.
@@vengeance1450indeed, I didn’t know about this till it was too late, and now I can’t get the collectors edition for Clocktower Remake….
almost had a heart attack just now, hearing "Tommy Talarico" mentioned unironically
He's insane, and led me to this
well, it's worth a sub!
his mother must be proud
I've only known of him from the Terminator OST for Genesis, I believe, and was rather dumbfounded when it turned out he has a long story of controversies to his name.
Still, the OST is a banger.
@@JeanMarceaux
Probably because there’s a huge chance Tallarico didn’t compose anything and took credit. The original composer for Terminator commented under a music video for “Visions,” it was discovered that Black Dawn Action Theme/Molten Mine was composed by a completely different person, and who knows what else wasn’t composed by him. I’m convinced Global Gladiators was someone else’s composition too
You know who’s REALLY going to preserve gaming history? People who rip games onto their hard drives, upload them to servers, and those who keep the servers alive. Mike in Michigan who’s got a basement full of retro games doesn’t do shit for the general gaming community.
I mean yeah definitely. But hey, if people want to have a collection, go for it. I have a decent sized one myself. But you're right, they aren't the saviors here lol
@@Jakco808 Sure, yeah, do whatever butter’s your toast. But I’m just OVER collectors acting like they are doing some noble cause by having a shrine to video games. There’s just a consistent air of obnoxiousness that comes from (some) collectors.
@@leeartlee915 yeah. The mustiness is real lol
If LRG or others who want to preserve these games would atleast donate one of each game to some actual preservation institue it would help a bit.
Imagine Mike dies leaving behind his collection of unopened NES games and a fully working NES.
This boon is 1000x more helpful to a presevationist than the people running rom servers.
The real preservationists are those working on emulation (especially accurate emulation) and are dumping games. It might be piracy now, but when all physical units inevitably break down, it'll be the only way to play. And because it's just software, we can keep it around no matter where technology goes in the next 100 years or so.
Yes, I actually do talk about this quite extensively in my newest video
If emulation is piracy than Yar har fiddly dee
It's also helped by fan translators giving people what's essentially a localized version that they can play so franchises can develop overseas fanbases without any cost to the publishers. That's basically what happened with Metal Max but the dev failed to capitalize on it.
I don’t particularly like emulation, but overall it’s necessary. Not everyone is gonna buy a cartridge from 1988 and thus will play the game for free via emulation. Not to mention that although it’s possible to keep cartridge games going through resoldering damaged ports or possible to repair disc games though resurfacing, but disc rot is a thing via the glue that holds discs together going bad and rotting away the discs plus you can only repair a cartridge so much until it inevitably starts working. Collecting physical copies is a short term solution to keeping games around that are no longer on the market while emulation is free and protects those games until the software possibly gets lost.
Just do whatever you want and experience games in whatever way you like, personally I’ll collect anything I can afford and then experience the other games through emulation.
Digital pirates are always better preservationists than corporations. No artificial scarcity. No planned obsolescence of physical media reading devices. No on-disc DRM. They solved the final obstructions that physical media put in the way of preservation.
My first and last experience with LRG:
I ordered an "IN STOCK" game, meaning it was already printed and sitting around at their warehouse. There was nothing extra included, it was just the game, so I expected shipping to be processed quickly.
It took them 2-3 whole months to finally ship out the item after I had already paid months prior.
I will NEVER order from them again.
I ordered some Shantae games for the PS5 since September last year and they still haven’t shipped because the last game is still “in production.”
Like bruh 😂
@@SinShady. : Everything you buy from LRG is a PRE-order and it takes a long time to ship because they haven't been printed yet when you buy them.
@@OMA2k
I know I’ve bought from them before. But it’s going on 16 months and I’ve never had to wait this long lol
I’m waiting on force unleashed to ship, I ordered it back in may but now I am feeling scammed
@@OMA2k people literally wait years for games from LRG. They just suck
I have always thought about Limited Run Games as a cash grab that prays on people's fear of FOMO with limited editions, special editions and collectibles made in pitiful numbers to incentivize people spending mad cash but it's even worse lmao, imagine having "partners" who re-sell for even more profit. Your research was extremely well done, good job mate!
This is how I have felt since checking ebay to see how much so many of their games cost it isn’t fair at all to customers
I know it's been a year but it should be "people's FOMO" not people's fear of FOMO" that's basically saying "people's fear of fear of missing out"
First heard about it yeah. Like in this day and age, sorry but nothing but FOMO is getting all hot and bothered over non digital video games.
@@RPbirdzz Both are correct. Stop being a pedant.
@@lainamitclaire no
I remember a time when the "limited" part of gaming was pre-ordering from GameStop and getting a bunch of extra fluff and crap with your game (fancy box, stickers, soundtrack, lanyard, art book, etc.) Now, just getting the GAME ITSELF is a "pre-order exclusive" to be scalped endlessly.
The gaming industry has really gone to shit
yuup and plus the wait time is just outright Bullshit
It really is a kick in the pants when almost every single gaming related paraphernalia I’m interested in is locked behind FOMO tactics and having to sign up for *just* a chance to obtain such. Worst part is that gaming consoles are even more entrenched in this fad now too, though at the very least we can claim that hardware shortages definitely hurt stock too.
profit motive baby
I miss all the extra items that games used to come with; especially the soundtracks disks, now days it's only in the collection edition of the game the costs over $100.
Just glad for the heavy sales. But yes physical is bs for digital deluxe as well.
Dear God how i wished you'd messaged me before you put this video out XD
Aaero: Put up the price by an extra $5 literally the moment it went up for sale, neglected to mention it to anyone. Turns out they'd put the price up because they decided last minute that they were going to put the DLC on the disc after a number of people complained.
Lawbreakers: An online only title, where the small print mentioned that it had offline functionality but neglected to mention that only the tutorial was available to play offline. By the time people received the physical copies of the game, the servers were closed, so had essentially sold people a shiny coaster.
Curse of Money Island Collection: The boxes have been misprinted, and it also turns out that a number of discs and USB sticks with the game on it, cannot be loaded, or are simply missing files entirely.
Asterbreed: Some discs were misprinted, and didn't have any data on them. You wouldn't know this unless you opened your game and tested, so plenty of people either bough them from LRG with no data on the disc, or bought them sealed from scalpers only to find there was no data on the disc.
Metronomicon: Personally suffered from this one myself. Bought the physical game and OST bundle, and received an empty box with the title of the game slapped on the label. Literally, an empty box. Multiple people complained about the same issue, only to find out LRG had started taking them out of peoples hold orders (when hold orders were still a thing) so they could get the single orders out to people faster, and had to resort to buying copies from scalpers on eBay to give to the people they'd sold them to in the first place.
One Step From Eden: The game was available to buy as a physical Japanese copy, that had every language on it including English...... Right up until LRG got ahold of it to publish it for the US, then mysteriously, and had NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM lolololol, the Jap version announces that it no longer has English on it, just every other language.
Crossing Souls and Swords of Ditto: Printed the wrong covers on the manuals, but made sure to slap that extra $5 on the price tag for the privilage of having a manual in the box.
Between misprints, missing data, missing packages, scalpers, personally being called a prick by Douglas Bogart (which i maintain is a badge of honour these days), there's plenty more where this came from XD
LRG used to have forums, and oh boy if you could see some of the screenshots from that bad boy, i think you'd be little more than shocked XD
Shall we also go into the topic of LRG's doxxing of another CEO of a different competitor company?...... Nah, that'd go too far right?.....right? ;)
Have you passed this evidence to the publisher/ developer? They are getting a damaged reputation through association. Can't stand Limited Scum Games. Why agree to an arbitrary physical sales number? I'd want to grow my business and have maximum sales potential. Horizon Chase Turbo, Valfaris and many others don't use them and thankfully SOR 4 and Star Wars games have had mainstream releases
How the fuck have they not gotten sued over some of this?
I think my favorite part about this video is during the customer support chapter, all the background footage is just a compilation of norman reedus eating shit and dropping all his stuff. Very fitting given the part about the damaged product in shipping
It's really primal lmfao
One item I was disappointed with was the comic book reproduction that came with the doom collectors edition. It wasn't normal comic size and it looks like it was printed on an inkjet printer.
I was pretty disappointed with that myself 😑
@@D00Mll yeah it looked alot better in the photo. My box also had a small dent at the top
The shadow box itself has dust inside the glass and chips in the paint of the background so no matter how much I try to forget about it, it’s just there. Ugh
Was extremely disappointed with the poor quality
the whole "independently operated store inside another store" is actually a real and not hypothetical thing. in the UK, when a bunch of GAME (a gaming store) shops got closed, the guy that owned them literally just put them in Sports Direct (sporting goods stores) shops and called it a day. literally just a gaming store surrounded by soccer balls and running shoes that NOBODY would care to access over a regular gaming store
Do you know what the idea behind this businesses decision was? I would understand it if, perhaps, it were a small kiosk that catered specifically to sports-related games, but while there may be some intersect between people who run or bike as a hobby and those who like to be couch potatoes, I can't imagine it's too profitable?
@@oddhate it was pretty much just that the GAME shops were failing and the worst performing ones had to be closed. he owned sports direct, so it's a way of telling people they still have a nearby GAME because it's just being supported by the sports direct that is closest to them. it's pretty much just life support
my nearest ports direct closed an i only ever find game in fancy shopping centers
Some time ago i saw the Game logo above a store and for some ungodly reason i decided to go in but when i approached the store i saw that it was actually a Sports Direct. I figured there probably just used to be a Game here before and they just haven't removed the logo yet lol
To be fair the bigger, newer GAMEs in places like Birmingham are way nicer than the old ones, bigger and with their own arenas and teams. They're usually more full than before too, from my experience. Sports Direct has been health for the bigger locations. However I've seen places like Walsall where the shop has been turned into a tiny corner stall.
Can confirm LRG has bad customer service. NEVER place an order with multiple items, they won't ship until you ask where your stuff is. I've experienced this twice. On the order page, everything said "Ready" and in warehouse, both times I waited a month or so then finally contacted them and they shipped a day later. So apparently they have no system to notify them when all items are ready and they need to ship. Fairly mind-boggling. Or maybe they do it on purpose to encourage you to place an order per item? They do have the annoying policy where they won't ship until everything in the order is ready. So basically only order one item at a time. Another annoying thing is they just throw in the collector cards in the box, no card protectors or anything. They're just rubbing against the inside of the cardboard shipping box. I can confirm that I have gotten all my games, so they're not trash or scammers, they just have some annoying policies and practices.
ive also gotten everything ive ever ordered from them with no damage or issues whatsoever. it sounds like whoevers at the top is way too money hungry and theyre taking more projects than they can actually handle at a time.
Good, I placed my order prior to this video and I was getting scared if it was even going to come or if it would just be broken, so good to know some of you have gotten yours.
I made that mistake as well. "IN STOCK" for two items but something as stupid as another insert with the other artwork wasn't and it held the order back even longer. Customer service was gas station at night levels of no one cares.
For a company that strive on "preserving" games, they sure give plenty of reasons why people should pirate their products.
Really was/ still is where the majority of preservation comes from. Who knows how much lost media we'd have if it wasn't for myabandomware or for r/roms.
Most of their games are sold digitally anyway
That’s why I only got physical night trap
By "preserving" they mean *"highway robbery".*
Preservation is almost irrelevant selling point because there are already big communities that focus on that. We don't need a company to "preserve" games when we do it ourselves, better.
I often find myself compulsively collecting things I don't really enjoy, only to later regret it or end up with a bunch of plastic junk sitting around collecting dust. FOMO is a brutally manipulative marketing tactic, I see it a lot in board game campaigns on Kickstarter, also. Hope you continue making videos of this quality. Excellent work.
I've been continuing, I hope. This video is several videos old now ;D
It's brutal for people with low IQ
'Preserving' games by releasing them in incredibly low quantities that most people will never have a chance of getting their hands on, nice
Unfortunately, I've sort of found out over the years that if something is sold as limited or collectors edition, it's not worth it and is often just padded out with low quality crap. This is not exclusive to the video games sector. Trying to force scarcity to drive up prices on the secondary market rather than letting the market police itself is fake at best and leads to corruption at worst.
You're better off buying a standard version of the game, and then some cool merch seperately. Like a high-quality figurine, statue or poster/signed art.
@@meko98743 I agree with my physical turtles game I have preorderes ronin comic collection and neca figures much meaningful that some old toot
Man collectors editions uses to be so cool. Like assassins creed 2 and brother were such a bangers for a collectors editions.
LRG is an amateur company. Deluxe editions from the past and from big companies (developers, record labels, etc.) are decent. Again: LRG is an amateur company.
I am reminded once again of the Fallout 76 collector's edition and duffel bag scandal.
I love psysichal copies and really dislike digital only games but I rather go digital than be exploited by a company like this
Agreed but if you didnt have internet like me physical is literally the only way to go. Still havent downloaded my god of war ragnarok code because i dont have internet yet
@@patrickdetweiler8598 It is a problem. I am going to spend time at the local library when pokemon scarlets last DLC drops, so I can get the update. I am not going to have internet after the end of this month. So seeing physical media going away is frustrating.
@@patrickdetweiler8598 maybe I'm missing something here... how are you typing this comment?
@LazyJesse on my phone.i dont really have a need for normal computers since my phone is basically a mini computer anyway.
@@patrickdetweiler8598 depending on how much data you have you might be able to make a mobile hotspot and connect your ps5 through that.
I was personally attacked when you went into Shantae. I have all of the skateboards, all of the collector's editions across consoles, all of the standard editions across consoles, the slip covers, and at the time of this comment, I am awaiting the statue for my acrylics to be slotted into. Also at the time of commenting, less than 24 hours remain until Limited Run puts Shantae and the Pirate's Curse collector's edition for 3DS up for sale. It's some bullshit because there already is a physical 3DS copy (which I have). So 2+ years later, nothing's changed, though they did just barely roll out 'ship when ready' for mix and match orders. What's even MORE bullshit is that I'm feeling the strain to keep my collection complete and participate in the sale. I definitely have that lizard brain and I HATE it. Thankfully I only invest in Shantae, but holy fuck, do they have me. I am the problem and I've wasted a lot of money lol. We'll see how this comment ages
@@TwinBlasters "only invest in shantae."
You are cooked. Sounds like you aren't collecting for the love of the media itself but you consider it a financial investment? I hope one day you break out from your corporatist shackles, it can get better.
@@Togutas Least obsessed shantae fan lol. There’s no saving these people from hyper obsessing over their fictional teenagers, I’ve never met shantae fan who doesn’t.
where u able to stop buying it
The current "game collectors" rabbit hole on TH-cam keeps getting more and more interesting!
Glad to be another step in the hole
@@reallycool My Scott Pilgrim bundle arrived today (thank goodness I still have family at the address I ordered it to over two years ago!) I'll post again with what kind of state its in after work
@@MagnaLynx21 what kind of state was it in? And that's a long time to wait.
@@MagnaLynx21 damn two years 😔
@@MagnaLynx21 Still waiting for that status.
LRG has accidentally sent me an extra copy of my orders 3 times. One of which was them messing up my order and sending me a regular copy of bloodstained: Curse of the moon 2. It had been so long since I preordered it, I completely forgot I ordered the collectors edition. A week later, I got my collectors edition, to my surprise. The other two extras is Shiren the wanderer (I only ordered the regular version of this one), and the collectors edition of The king of Fighters 2002: unlimited match (so I have 2 collectors editions). The fact that this happened 3 times and this was when I was slowing down my purchases from them speaks to how disorganized they are on keeping track of their orders.
This is not the first time I have seen Metal Jesus Rocks involved in price manipulation.
For years that was a claim about him and his friend Kensey, as he would highlight a "gem" that she would conveniently have stock in at her store.
I have also seen people aggravated that he will take a lesser known game and hype it up bigly, and then the prices go through the roof.
Interestingly, since around this video, he has drastically reduced his video output, I havent seen Kensey anymore, and he doesnt really highlighy games.
I knew something was fishy with MJR, I couldn't point out what was wrong, but he seemed a bit too enthusiastic some times.
Im kinda not suprised. Guy lives in one of the best areas for videogame collecting, really when he gets all cheeky for limited run/asphalt games, thats probably because youre sponsored by one and got a copy from limited run, while most videogame-collecting peons has to wait 😂
@@CaptButtonMash So bad to see John from DigitalFoundry, Audi, and a bunch of other retro gaming TH-camrs suck up to LRG too.
Imagine MVG leaving Nightdive, where they're doing actual preservation work, to go work at LRG, and it seems like a massive joke at first glance.
I always hated him for how US centric he is when talking about the community as a whole and also for just being obnoxious. Not surprised he'd do this
I unsubbed from him like 3-5 years ago. I VERY rarely unsub from people. I just got bad vibes from the dude. And yeah, seems like I was correct.
I've always seen LRG as doing nothing other than enabling scalpers, I hate to see when a game I would like is artificially limited to 1 vendor, with controlled amount of copies, as someone outside the US, I simply just skip anything over there, even if it is something I want.
Pretty sure if they had the opportunity, they'd do a penguin blackmarket, as well.
If LRG could stick one of their own relatives in a case they would if they thought they could con some elitist collector into FOMO. There is no reason for them or some of the other similar companies to exist
I seen people got piss at limited run because they made deal with best buy and people responded it and said they ruined the value I was like wtf
@@1stvinyl Anything to keep up the elitist, pretentious agenda. Physical copies for everyone to be enjoyed please. Not just the whale collectors and hipsters
@@robsmall6466 straight up! I want a physical to play, and then it the future I can go back and play it on my old Switch. Just like I did with my Gameboys.
@@aussieknuckles As it should be. A reasonably priced physical version available easily to everyone who would like a copy. Something you can keep and play in the future, part exchange or take over a mates house to show them and let them borrow or the other way round. It's always been like that right up to the 360/PS3/Wii etc. days with only a very few exceptions. No need to hide physical releases behind an elitist club that feeds on FOMO and resale
Wow this is crazy. I've only purchased 4 or 5 LRG titles and been lucky so far. No issues yet. I don't hoard or resell. I just purchase what I love in physical format. Thanks for the warning though.
im on the same boat
yeah this is me... just someone who wants a physical copy of certain games.
Thank god I'm not the only one, I should stop buying them before its too late.
Same here, all 4 Jak and Daxter collector's editions and that's it. Great products and not a terrible experience (other than them selling out in seconds and having to wait anxiously to see if I made the waiting list or not). Never again.
exactly. I don't want 90% of the games LRG makes, but if they make one game I.e. scott pilgrim every two years I can spend the money to get that game and just not buy they other games. The fomo part doesn't matter to me because I spend the money on just one game. Plus going to PAX for ten years I'll tell you companies keeping stock to sell at conventions is absolutely nothing new
Bought a game from them over a year ago, forgot about it because I only buy from them maybe 1-3 times a year, moved during that period, they sent the game without any email or warning, and it was is mailing limbo for three months. Even kickstarter projects several years late at least have the decency to contact me if their product shipping soon so they can ask for updated shipping details. No idea why a "more established" company can't.
I absolutely despise LRG. You wouldn’t guess it, given I’ve spent close to 2k with them. Yet out of all that money, I only have 3 physical games in my possession. Their business practices are shady, their release dates are not even suggestions at this point (some releases taking more than a year) and the most frustrating part, is that some games are only available via LRG, making it impossible to go anywhere else… I hate them.
They are handling the new TMNT beat 'em up and I hate it
What the heck did you buy from them?
@@error_404.69 they only handle it in North America
How is it the companies fault if YOU spent 2k on 3 games 🤣
@@kaisarr7632 Because they print an absurdly low number of copies allowing Scalpers easy ways of scalping people?
TBH, if a company refuses to give me a refund for something that’s entirely their fault, they don’t need to ban me; I won’t be buying from them ever again anyways.
The collectible market has essentially destroyed the joy of being a kid. If I had known that my Star Wars, GI Joes, and Transformers toys would be worth thousands of dollars, maybe I wouldn't have played with them. The scummy nature of creating false scarcity is only going to get worse.
I'm in this limited run games collector's group (that is also the name of it) and the amount of people that haven't watched this video and are calling it dumb is honestly annoying tbh. The amount of collectors that spent thousands of dollars to LRG and claim to not be bias with their feelings towards this video is astonishing.
A lot of people default to that kind of kneejerk reaction when they see you 'attacking' their passion.
@@reallycool I mean, I'll still buy games from LRG simply because of a thing called return policy. I rather just resell a lrg game for a quarter of the price rather than keep a digital game I don't enjoy.
But despite that, LRG has issues with several things like their shipping partners DHL being terrible, which I know isn't their fault but they did sign a contract with them. Plus I have seen a ton of packages/games being ruined due to their lack of packaging skills.
It's also ridiculous how insane the digital-physical price differential can be. Like Doom 64 costing 5 USD in the eShop but having a 25 USD price, plus shipping, plus taxes. It often tends to become the biggest deal breaker for me but apparently I am one of the few in this fb group that's called dumb considering the price difference.
Also, Playasia would sell games that LRG have and even have them around longer, like Samurai Jack is still up for sale in Playasia. So you always wonder if they actually do preorder stuff.
Plus, it's kinda funny a company called Limited Run, happens to be 1 of Nintendo's biggest game publishers.
Overall, I highly enjoyed your video and I was incredibly entertain. I will still probably buy games from LRG but now, with a bit of extra nervousness lmao XD
@@reallycool Don't ask questions! Just consume product and get excited for next product!
On that note, I'm pissed at the fact that LRG and Wayforward decided to localize Kunio-tachi no Banka after nearly 30 years since its Super Famicom release, only to brand it as a prequel to their girly pseudo-spinoff that barely has anything to do with it outside the names of the two heroines. Would've preferred if the game had never been localized if that was going to be the way they were doing it.
Lmao I just joined one of those group last week, let's just say this is some wack ass community... I don't understand lol
@@charlesanthony4267 Most videogame communities are in general. I don't know what it is with people, but it's like they NEED their console of choice, favorite games, collection, etc to define them and give them validation that they're spending their time and money correctly. It's crazy how hard it can be to just find levelheaded people who love playing videogames and find the industry interesting without being a weird, biased, fanboy or something.
Others may have said it, but you missed the fact they do not let people cancel their orders.
Would be much harder to take your time in getting product out if people could take their money back if they failed to meet delivery windows.
you'd rather get it digitally cause that can be arranged
I made three orders a couple of weeks ago, requested two refunds of two games , they canceled and refunded me the total amount of both orders. I still have an order on the system just to see how it goes but I really don’t want to wait a whole freaking year and a half for a game that can be bought digitally or physical at a cheaper price from another region just because it’s a supposed north american version. I know they have value and the price can be raised by 4 times the regular price on ebay but is not so much worth it with every single game that they sell.
I recommend Play Asia or similar stores , if you guys don’t want to wait so long for an LRG game, get an asian or european version instead lol plays the same crap jaja 🤣
I have also read that they ban buyers if you request refunds, if that’s the case then so be it. I’ll just wait for the order that i still have and never buy from their website again.
You can find some games on their amazon store , too.
I'm still waiting for 3 games that I bought on limited run games last year every time I check the status of my purchases and all I keep getting is still in production its getting right on my nerves now.
I JUST started buying their stuff. Ordered the Scott Pilgrim vs The World fan edition and placed an order for some Zombies Ate My Neighbors bundles. Scott Pilgrim kept getting pushed back. First they said there was a shipping container shortage and that it would ship in Q1 of 2022. Then they said the vinyl record was delaying its release. I didn’t actually receive it until just the other day. Placed my order in January of ‘21. They never offered a discount on a future order or anything like that as an apology. The kicker was that the LP sleeve was very damaged. Still waiting on their reply…
@Shawn Desper restocking fee sounds suspicious
This whole video I was like “they didn’t do a bad job on anything I got from them” then you talked the tribute games collection and I stared at it on my shelf.
This has been interesting, to say the least. I've been on a binge on LRG releases this whole year. I'm going to be more mindful of their practices now. Thanks for doing the research and sharing.
To a creator like myself, this is the highest praise you can give
yeah on top of it they just raised all of their pricing and put even less in their special editions. standard edition is the way to go with them.
@@pt8292 Yeah I only ever buy standard editions. i don't own one collector's edition from LRG or anywhere else. Some of us just want physical versions. Some of us also accept that occasionally the physical editions might be missing some DLC or we won't be able to download a patch eventually. They will still be playable 50 years from now though.
@@reallycool - I wanted to reply to one of your messages in hopes that you would see this. Thank you for the massive amount of work and research you put into this vireo. I truly hope this gets some great traction as it’s obvious how much work you’ve put into this.
I mean most of this was a mix of bias, lies, slander and heresay but ok.
17:07 One of the greatest PR wins in gaming of the past decade was the palatable rebranding of "addicts" as "whales." I think we should call it like it is. Not to name and shame people that get roped in but because we should acknowledge it as evil to try and design your business model around roping in vulnerable people with addictive personalities.
@@Togutas completely agree
seeing tommy talarico being mentioned a year before hbomb's video feels like when you meet that one cousin that you didnt think you ever saw before but turns out you had a playdate with when you were like 6
I gotta thank this guy who made this video, he saved me SOOOOOOOO much money by not ordering off Limited run games.
Watched this 4 months ago. And now they're popping up again by firing someone for guilt by association.
In America, we have freedom of speech and freedom of association. They violate that principle.
This company seems to be like a front for some seedy creeps Facebook,TH-cam, Tic Toc, Twitter (before Elon bought it) all have the same MO
You're completely wrong on that second half. Freedom of Speech does not apply to a social media website owned by a corporation, and even then, that protection only applies to public/government agencies, not ordinary people.
Freedom of Association is protection against the state. LRG is not the state.
Lastly, LRG is located in NC, an employment-at-will state, meaning that she could be fired for literally anything, which she was.
I hate the company as much as the next guy, but get your facts straight.
@@brownandbloom Knock it off with the tired ass "they're a private company" excuse. Do you know why we're where we are? Because smoothbrains like you keep using that as an excuse for both small companies and big corporations to stifle any kind of speech. I couldn't care less you hate Limited Run Games, but the fact you think it is perfectly okay to let big corporations with too much money and power to run roughshod over people's ability to express themselves is absolutely 0 IQ.
We already heard this argument for ages. You are arguing for YOUR OWN deplatforming in the future. But you don't care, because you never said or did a wrong thing in your life, RIGHT?
@@brownandbloom Except what they did was illegal according to North Carolina state law. It's funny you tried to pull the "Um actually 🤓☝️" only to look completely regarded
@@PeruvianPotato North Carolina is *one* state and they can't enforce it. Unless the company exists in North Carolina, which I'm not interested enough to even google, that is irrelevant.
adding to this, limited run recently made a steam developer account and it really shows that premium pricing does not equal premium production cost. unlike most collections, LRG keeps references to both of its steam games' emulation practices wholly unencrypted, even with references to emulation for games from consoles they haven't even put on steam yet and the roms themselves readily available for people to copy-paste or replace with other roms as they see fit. oh, and did i mention that these roms remove all references to former publishers or even what year the games came out? for reference, these edits are so shoddy that i could recreate the new roms entirely in about five minutes with tile layer pro.
if that's not bad enough, these games have a newly added map feature, which is literally just images from vgmaps with the credit information cropped out. whilst they would not be the first to get caught doing, these particular maps have additional details, by which i mean an image-based strategy guide to the entire fucking game.
Better buying from original Dev than from them or be a real preservationist with gog copy
Oh man. You showed Night Trap. I really wanted that one, but when they were a) sold out in minutes and b) tons showed up on ebay almost immediately, I noped out from LRG permanently. EDIT: LOL at the Death Stranding montage when discussing shipping.
They sell it digitally on the Switch eShop...
@@KlingonCaptain I'm late but so is the comment I'm responding to and the one above that. But I assume from the context clues of the comment and the overall topic, that OP was referring to a physical copy of the game not purchasing and owning the game itself.
When I think about limited I think about night trap, a wish people with more .... ernest ideas or principles were making phisical copies of games like this or 7th guest? But I didn't realize about the newer games that had no phisical versions...
@@Brandon-qu8hf Digital storefronts on Playstation, Nintendo and Xbox are flooded with thousands of games which never saw a physical release. That's where companies like LRG come in.
Thank you for making me aware of this. LRG was one of the main sources for physical copies I was considering down the line as physical preservation is very big with me.
Anybody else here after they fired that employee because her cyberstalker, the bronycon founder, said they were mad she was looking forward to the new Harry Potter game?
That was the reason? Man that's has to be the most goofy justification EVER
Who is this bronycon founder anyways?
I basically was pushing this video when it came out and no one listened to me then.
@@jesussilva201 The entire brownie community has basically disassociated themselves from purple tinker because this person if rumors are true has engaged in underage activity with a minor that should not be legal which it definitely isn't.
@@jesussilva201 Then there was also the fact that the brony person decided to dig through the now fired community manager's old tweets to find something to be offended by and because said community manager followed some social media accounts the brony did not like, such as LibsOfTikTok and some others I believe, they threw a hissyfit at LRG accusing the CM of being transphobic and all the usual shit. The tweet they discovered was I think from 6 - 7 years ago where the former CM expressed some concerns about pervs using a trans identity as a cover to allow them to enter women's bathrooms. This was the tweet that set the deranged brony in flames of fury.
A brony that other bronys can't stand. Ironic.
Thank you for making this video. When I was in highschool I fell for this and bought a few games from them.
The first game had the disc dislodged in the box and the second took almost 2 years to arrive.
I knew this was feeding off FOMO.
I knew something felt icky about this company.
Thanks.for spreading awareness about their practices.
What game took 2 years to arrive for you?
You'll catch a lot of flack from fans, but I fell out with them some time ago. Initially I bought from them because I bought into the preservation nonsense, plus I have that collector gene. Once it became clear that they were stretching the truth about preservation, and they were going to release WAY more volume than I wanted to collect... I was out, mostly. I'll still grab Shantae games, shooting games (more M2 Shot Triggers please!).. basically stuff I'd buy regardless of who published it. There was also that time that they double-shipped an entire order, then threatened to charge me for them if I didn't return them at MY expense. And after I brought it to their attention by requesting a shipping label, which they did finally provide after 5 weeks or so.
I get the collecting bug but. If your buying a modern game solely on investment then your gaurenteed to be disappointed in the long run. This isn't new I would buy good games like sotn or silent hill a decent prices and I laugh when a remaster is released and all these folks watch their "investments" decrease.
Hell I bought the grey turok rage wars cause I wanted the corrected version BUT I paid 2.00 for it and couldn't help but sell it when it was 200 plus when I needed money.
Granted it's much more than that now but it wasn't worth THAT much to me to get past that frag tag level and I'm sure a rom exists if I ever get the itch to play it again
Hell yeah m2 shot triggers! Just ordered fire shark which is out on April 28th. Need way more from them.
If they would've double charged you could've just dispute the charge
@@BladeAssassin Yeah, assuming they live in the US, they're legally allowed to keep whatever got sent to them and they weren't required to send it back
Same I bought the castlevania anniversary collections as absolute horrible experience
Commenting to say that LRG has dug their grave even further by firing an employee for who they follow on Twitter just a few days ago. Now every post they've made since is swamped by hundreds of comments about nothing but disdain for them. It's beautiful and well deserved.
Sorry but, how do we know that was the actual reason? All I can find are articles that talk about it based on speculation, but where is the actual proof of that?
@OMA2k because LRG tweeted it out. They did it for the sake of equality and inclusivity. They said in the tweet also that they investigated the issue and felt like firing her was the nest choice to create a "safe environment". LRG heads are bat wing crazy leftist trash. I'm glad Embracer bought them out. Hopefully this stuff stops.
@@BrD4GOD Could you please provide a link to that tweet?
@@OMA2k they got destroyed in the comments. LRG SUCKS!
@@BrD4GOD What relevance does that have? "Destroyed in the comments" just means lots of people believed a story that might or might not be true.
LRG just opened a physical location in NC. It's only opened on weekends and typically has a line when they open in the morning. I went the first 3 weekends to pick up some odds and ends.
Each time there were several customers buying literal stacks of collectors editions that they would pile along the wall by the registers adding to their stacks while looking up resale prices on their phones. There were more than a few customers walking around with binders of info that they were cross referencing with their stack of product. I don't make a habit of eaves dropping, but at least a couple of people were on their phones securing resales as they were shopping. One guy dropped about 4k in one sale and I believe (wasn't my business so I was only half paying attention) he bought as many collectors editions of a single game as he could carry. Another was bragging that he makes at least 20 bucks reselling each game he buys.
I can confidently say there are alot of proffesional resellers who benefit from LRG. I can't say whether LRG cares or not, but it was sort of blatant I can't imagine they didn't know what was going on.
This is just my personal observation for anyone curious. I'm not making any definitive accusations. There are some people buying stacks of games who legitimatly want to own several copies of a game. High five to them. However, the ones with binders running around making deals like they were on wall street were a little...sus. lol.
"Professional resellers". Just call them scalpers.
A scam. How many have association with the company? Limited Scum Games sell X game for Y price. Then no longer available. Surprise, surprise. It's now on Ebay at three times the price. Was the original sale genuine?
nice for them to open up a public restroom, suprising for a videogame company but i'm all for it
Massive yikes
Worst part of being into niche genres like shmups is knowing that physical releases of the games you want will inevitably be scooped up by these limited publishers
True and there is no need. Why attach to an arbitrary sales number? Growth averse strategy. You want finance for a bigger and better game? Good luck doing it that way. Mass eyeballs are better than niche eyeballs. There are plenty of smaller games that don't use Limited Scum Games. Shoot em ups should join them
This aged well.
Very
I although thought it was strange how everyone seemed to love it, since I always hated these guys because of the way they produce games. The whole “Limited Run” thing was always a sales tactic, was clearly done to trick people into buying stuff for ridiculous prices. I like the idea of physical releases of games that wouldn’t otherwise get it, but usually LRG isn’t producing a physical run of an important game no one can afford, they’re picking up the rights to games that sometimes would’ve got physical releases, and then selling a few copies to people who preorder, leaving everyone who missed that preorder time, giving them no option other than to buy them on eBay for a ridiculous price.
It seemed like in the early days of my exposure to them, they generally were trying to get games that would never get physical releases on disc to be preserved, or at least their business wasn’t anywhere near as scummy, but it feels so sneaky and toxic nowadays and I can’t stand it. If they really wanted to preserve digital only games, they wouldn’t do a $30 release of a 1 cent game, they would make a massive compilation of a ton of them and release that on cartridge. It’s all done for profit and to rip people off.
Wait, if you combine scare, scarcity, and sale, you get SCALE. Ha found the reptile people!
I'm glad I got my 4 Jak & Daxter collector's editions and ended my support for them there. And I'm grateful those ones were at least high quality and worth the money.
Imo what they should do is constantly print games as soon as the eBay price goes beyond a certain threshold value. Fuck fomo
If u can't afford it then don't buy it.
Or buy yhe games digital.
lrg are for true collectors and video game aficionados.
The "love" was because a lot of influential collectors were promoting them,I remember that I started to criticize them on Twitter as soon as they made their first PS Vita release and got bad replies by other collectors of the Vita scene.
In the end I have just stopped collecting this kind of releases.
I just remembered that LRG had a end of year sale where you could buy up a copy of a game that was released in the past for a set price.
The catch?
You had no indication of what you were going to get. You could only choose the console, and the game itself was completely up to them. And they even had the gall to have some games be less likely to be given out than others, down to the percentage point.
This was kind of the biggest indication that this business was extremely sketchy. It would have been easier to just relist the surplus games, but they felt that it was best to do it in a way that might very likely end up with you getting something you already have, or just don't want. It's a very bad idea, and it's kind of emblematic of everything wrong with the company.
Thanks for the very well done video, I'll be sure to stop supporting them.
I remember seeing this and thinking "what the fuck? At least be able to show proof of what you have so you don't get a duplicate". Lrg don't actually care
What the fuck, they actually sold a physical video game blind box? That highly implies they have a surplus of shit they can't sell.
so they literally sold physical lootboxes, how transparent of em
I suspect they did this in order not to piss the people who bought the game at full price off. The similar European company "Strictly Limited" also puts their unsold copies on sale, but they've choosen a different approach: the catch in their case is that the games are sold at MSRP, no discounts.
My comic book store does this. It's so shady. They have these paper bags for $5 and they let you choose what publisher or genre but you have no idea what you're going to get!
They're called grab bags. It's a good way to clean out inventory and give the customer a deal. I doubt lrg was this fair but your description defines a grab bag that you at least know what you are more likely to receive. Plenty of other reasons to dislike them.
Double checked this video when I found out some of their CD titles were "burnt" and not pressed
I was manufacturing and releasing a product when they announced they'd be releasing a competing product.
I immediately reached out to Josh to see if we could work together as to not flood the market, maybe even work together to get costs down. He was "unprofessional". He publicly attacked my product to the media and on his forums. Even going as far as posting a negative review on my product on Amazon, something you're not supposed to do as a seller. Amazon eventually removed it and I believe gave him a warning.
Their product was advertised as premium and they charged almost double what I charge (when you factor in they charge their customers shipping costs).
Their product was identical. And because they couldn't compete on price they no longer sell theirs.
To this day when looking at the reviews on my product you can sometimes guess who the LRG fans are.
The cult is real.
I'd love to hear more sometime, feel free to DM me @mrixrt on Twitter
This reads like a fake lie without proof tbh
@@reallycool I don't want to give any specifics because I don't want to get review bombed by their fans
@@nonyabiz9340 I'm happy to keep your information private. I am a registered journalist and understand confidential sources. If you decide to tell your story, contact me twitter.com/mrixrt
@@reallycool sounds good, I'm working in my office tomorrow night. I'll see how much I saved from my interactions with them before I reach out to you.. not looking to get anything published, just think you deserve to hear the details given the time and effort you put into your video.
YEAH, I love collecting old games and limit myself to things that have meaning to me. I see people going NUTS over limited run stuff and graded games (grading has literally always been a scam for every collectible) and that's just not fun!
I bought two things from them. My Scott Pilgrim game spent two years unsent. My friend received his months before i cancelled my order but was still waiting on the record. LRG told me they were waiting for the record to send me the game. Months went by and i finally cancelled. I ordered Shredders Revenge and moved months later. I told them to update my address and they said they updated my order. More months go by and they sent it to my old apartment. Never getting anything from them ever again
This bird king situation is beyond questionable...wow
And it's just one of the many
@@reallycool I'm seeing all of these examples you mentioned now wow this is so sad.
That part is making me feel...iffy about following MJR...
@@HayabusaZero I'm almost certain Metal Jesus had no idea about the state of Bird King and was likely only told this version of the game doesn't exist anywhere else but in these two games he obtained. He is not unfamiliar with unreleased games that just happened to have gotten printed before getting "cancelled".
@@HayabusaZero And there is alot more questionable stuff about him. I stopped following him after his "e-begging" scenarios, same with his "crew" like John Riggs.
So this is kinda embarrassing to admit but when I first discovered LRG I felt the FOMO need to buy as many games as I could just because I was financially stable at the time, years later I really regret most of those purchases
That's how they get you, everybody can fall under FOMO practices no need to feel embarrassed
Be glad that you realized how bad FOMO is sooner than later
Well, I can thank my parents for never letting me have that need. Given that money doesn't fall from the trees, it was not common for me to buy full-price console games (sometimes even those at second hand), and therefore they only bought me games when I was more free from schoolwork, and _especially_ when I had mostly finished the games I already had. Now that I'm older and legally an adult, I could technically buy any game I wanted, but I still have restraint. There's only a couple games I do REALLY want, and I do pay attention to prices. Otherwise, I'll try and get them at sales, or even for free (that's why I do roam around the Epic Game Store every once in a while, I don't care for most of their deals, but some are pretty cool).
Yeah I've only gotten like ~4, and I've watched them for around a year, but that feeling when something you like comes on but you can't get it is *terrible* and really hard to control. I've always been a physical copy sort of guy, even with things like manga when you can read it online... just something superior about owning it IRL... but the way they do it just sucks.
Its not your fault
Same. I bought dozens of their Vita games, thinking I struck gold. Somewhere I had convinced myself that this would truly be limited thing, and they would never get as big as they are now. A foolish tought, I realize now.
Now I have more Limited Run releases than 'regular' Vita games and still miss out on many Vita staples that I was really interested in, which are now up for ridiculous prices on the used market, whereas most LRG releases haven't raised in value at all last time I checked.
I ordered a force unleashed masters collectors edition back in April 2022 as a potential gift for my partner. I followed up with customer service after 10 months like it said on the website that it would take that long. I was informed by customer service to check the website for updates. All the website said that was still in production and not ready.
I kind of forgot about it for a while due to life and contacted them in May, since it has been a year by then. They told me I could expect it in September. I was a little annoyed but I've waited for much longer for items purchased in Kickstarter so I figured I just have to be a bit more patient. September came and went, nothing obviously, so I contacted them again they said they would start shipping in December and that they didn't have any more information about my order to just keep checking the website for updates. Well December has come and gone and still nothing. My order has updated with now shipping but i havent received a shipping email update.
first and last time I ever buy from this company.
To throw my two cents in there, I actually sort of know a couple of the lrg guys, mainly through a couple of friends. Met them a few times. They are decent marketers and very good at playing the business game, which is how they secure so many titles. They have a TON of really good contacts and know how to work the industry. I’ve heard some really despicable off the record comments, specifically about how they cheap on printing stuff and how gullible collectors are. Just my two cents take it or leave it.
If you heard these things firsthand and are willing to recount that on or off the record, please contact me via Twitter DM @mrixrt
Did he contact you?
@@twerktospec
Are you really on the edge of your seat dictating that someone should expose a random person's personal info in a youtube comment section? Man who hurt you
@@CameronZimos dont believe it, then. as he stated, take it or leave it.
@@l.2620 With this reply I can safely say that username checks out
So is this video going away in 4 weeks like their games or
I'll probably private it next week, ye
The real kicker is that while I can understand indie companies getting physical releases through LRG, as they wouldn’t usually do so to begin with due to being a small independent company. But I’ve started growing tired of huge, Triple-A companies having their physical releases exclusive to LRG, which’s become more commonplace recently. There’s of course Sega/Atlus having the physical versions of Persona 3 Portable and Persona 4 Golden being exclusive, but just recently, Sega revealed the collector’s edition for SonicXShadow Generations…which is exclusive to LRG. I’m already hesitant to get it for the price tag ($250, wtf), but to get the collector’s edition for a game I want to play on launch but realistically won’t see until late 2025, maybe even early 2026 due to how absurdly long LRG takes to ship collector’s editions? Yeah, no thanks. As if charging up front for pre-orders that takes ages to ship wasn’t enough, this company’s artificial scarcity is only doing more harm than good in the end by giving scalpers a way to sell these releases at a premium once they’re no longer sold by LRG itself. It’s why I’m glad that PlayAsia exists, since at least a lot of these same games get Japanese physical releases with English language support that aren’t limited, sold for way better prices and won’t take your entire lifetime to ship to you. So tl;dr, go with the chad PlayAsia over the virgin LRG.
The events of today should add more to your point.
They should, but based on his Twitter, he seems to be siding with them this time (or at the very least condemning the backlash)
@@PikaPhantomVG ugh.
@@PikaPhantomVG Yep, this dude lost any potential respect from me
As someone who's an impulse buyer when it comes to series they're really attached to and want things in their room to show for it, it was a really hard decision not to get the collector's edition Scott Pilgrim game at the time but now looking back months later I'm glad I didn't give in lol
This is why I'm not really attached to collecting games. Most youtubers that "collect" these games are only in it for the money like Phoenix Resale & Chase after the right price... etc. These types of youtubers are part of the problem with collecting in general.
"I can sell it later for more" is the biggest trap I see people have, i've had that problem too.
What saved me was when I had things fall over in the middle of the night and I told myself I need to get rid of things.
It is a bad way of thinking anyway, not everything has to be for personal wealth. I personally collect video games, and I will take them with me to my grave. I don't care if they get more valuable, I won't sell them because it is my passion
Yeah, it was bad to where I would buy games and collectables I was only marginally interested in...
I ordered the Star Wars Knights Of The Old Republic collectors edition when it came out for the switch. One of my favorite games of all time, and i just started making enough money to buy myself something cool. I dont remember the exact dates, but it was supposed to take around half a year to ship. A year and a half later, with 1 singular email update I got the game. I wont lie, the product is nice and well made. But the orginal "vibroblade letter opener" that was advertised, was changed to a plastic and metal display piece with no explination. A year and a half wait and a changed product with 0 compensation.
Within literal hours of sale closing for the Shantae GBC collector's pack, it popped up for upwards of triple the price on ebay. I got lucky to even be able to put money toward a copy at all, since it was marked as sold out almost immediately.
Which has never happened to repros before Limited Run Games started doing them. They even release repros of games that were already cheap on the used market to begin with and they then end up being worth more than their official release.
@@wizzgamerThis. They’re fake GB games. They’re worthless
I didn’t have to know all this about Limited Run to know that they aren’t really about true preservation. When I started seeing games launch incomplete it was an immediate red flag. When I saw how truly LIMITED their games were printed it was an immediate red flag. When I saw their games being sold for way too much on eBay I knew it was a scam. I hope a company can learn from their mistakes and enter the market for the next Switch. I think LGR also cannibalized a smaller portion of the market that would have had developers push for publishing their games through a more established/less predatory company or to even self publish. They basically have a duopoly with Super Rare. Would be better if Limited Run could change their ways but will see if they are still around in 5 years and if so what their business looks like. I doubt it will change and you are probably right about the whales who make up the majority of their sales.
I was gutted when I found out I missed the No More Heroes switch physical copies, then I found out that Asia received a physical release, with English language included, and the Switch is region free 🤩. Check your options people.
If you're in the USA you can buy it physically at Best Buy.
@@Grimmjow24 , Nah, UK
The good ending
about 4 minutes into the video you already said the one thing I hate about Limited Run games.
They do ONE printing of a game and that's it, if you want a physical it's off to ebay to find a $300 copy of the game........or spend $80 for a physical import cause Japan printed the game en masse......or just wait a few years/weeks to find that same game on Gamestop/Target/Walmart for $40-$60 because another studio got publishing rights to it so what was the point again?
If you ever feel pointless remember LimitedRunGames did Power Rangers Battle for thr Grid for 60 dollars with S1 DLC. And then MaximumGames sold the same game with the same content for 30 dollars AND THEN MaximumGames released the Super Edition WITH ALL DLC for 50 dollars.
I'm still waiting for the Radiant Silver Gun preorder to show up... it's been a year and three months. Here is a pro tip: if you buy anything from these guys get the vanilla version of the games . Don't get any of the collectors editions that come with the paper trinkets and Burger King toys. It takes years for this junk, get the disc and box and forget about it.
I have never heard of this company until now. It just seems like a business capitalizing on collectors. Everyone knows that pirating, and online communities are what preserves digital media.
I only wanted to buy Scott Pilgrim physically because the game was already delisted once. It'll most likely be delisted again and I don't wanna go through emulation or piracy like I already was to play it if I either lose my account or the Eshop closes or something like that. I ordered the Special Edition because it was my birthday and I felt like treating myself with a semi-neat collector's piece.
Ordered it on my birthday, took about 6 months to arrive. Which is fair. Though the account I ordered it from said I had no pending orders and I never got a tracking number, it eventually arrived right around the time I was looking into the issues. And what I got was... disappointing.
The box it came in was not molded to fit the Switch case, instead it had 2 plastic bars holding it together that fell out as soon as I opened the box. The contents inside were okay, but they were also all stuffed below the switch case instead of in a manual holder on the side, which didn't exist and would've made sense. And the "freebie" concert ticket? shoved into the game case with nothing holding it.
And of course finally playing the game, I found out Knives Chau was only unlockable via connecting to a Ubisoft Connect account, which is online only content. If I lose my save and the servers shut down, Knives is no longer playable. Good game preservation here. Sure, Knives is a character in an otherwise complete game, but it's the little things that irritate me the most.
And after watching this video, the only real preservation way at this point, is piracy. I'd be better off playing the game on my hacked PS3 with all the DLC installed on my console for free then buying the physical cartridge cause at least then I know I can play the game in its entirety offline. I'll probably not be supporting Limited Run from now on.
Thank you for your story.
so you're ok with piracy
I found out about this exact problem a month after I pre-ordered my PS4 copy of the collector’s edition.
I’ll still enjoy the game for what it is, but Limited Run should’ve tried to convince Ubisoft to make Knives and Wallace a part of the base game before they released it on modern platforms.
personally i don’t think LRG is at fault here, I believe ubisoft decided it since it’s with their uplay account thingy, not a free update like celeste
Meanwhile my copy of Scott Pilgrim passed the 1 year order anniv. I ordered the vinyl and their communication is absolutely godawful.
"All game preservationists are scammers at the end of the day."
And then comes Jirard "The Completionist" Khalil to prove his point.
Brilliant in-depth video. As someone who’s been aware of certain shadiness for a while now, there’s still somethings in here I wasn’t aware of. Although I think the “It’s not about the Shiren situation” was true, it was about me telling people to be aware of the One Step From Eden situation.
what's the one step from eden situation?
@@RiotSRetro th-cam.com/video/VCBO7yaWINg/w-d-xo.html
Hello there. LRG situation is crazy. Great That there are people like You two that tell how the things work... I was not aware about these... 😔
@@RiotSRetro
Limited Run prevented English from being on the asian release’s cartridge of One step from Eden, which completely defeats the purpose they claim to serve.
@@dexusmensch Thanks for the reply! What a fucking joke that company is
Metal Jesus rocks is one of the main reason Videogame prices are through the roof, soon as he says a game is rare it skyrockets in price
I don't like digital copies. I also don't like Limited Run. I just want life to be like it was in the 90s. Buy a game, and have it forever.
My primary exposure to Limited Run Games was how they handled the Jak and Daxter games. Boy it was painful.
What's the story behind that?
@@fuglytard1293 Apparently, for the first of the two Jak and Daxter runs, Naughty Dog told them it would be a good idea to print a comically low number for that batch. They didn’t know it wasn’t nearly enough for everyone interested until it sold out in seconds and all the remaining Jak and Daxter fans were peeved at the comically low batch size. Limited Run said that due to the whole “Limited Run” thing they couldn’t sell more for the first batch of sells than advertised, but that they could change the batch size of the second sell.
Dont leave us hanging tell us
@@everythingpony Jak, Jak 2, Jak 3 and Jak X all got collectors editions with a bunch of shit in them no one wanted and they were like 150 to 200 dollars for each. On ebay they're like 500 and up now.
I got a salty taste in my mouth EARLY on with LRG. When packages would show up damaged. And they would act like I was the bad guy for complaining about damaged purchases and want an exchange. Everyone was saying how great they were then. I am glad the public has finally figured out they are a money grab. And a pretty scummy one at that. It took the public a long time to seem to catch on though. I suspect LRG will have to make some changes somewhere down the road. Or they will start to see a major hit to their sales. You can only screw the pooch so long before the public doesn’t want to give you their hard earned money anymore. And a full blown recession is all but inevitable pretty quickly here. Times are gonna get even tougher than right now. And these game purchases are not gonna come before food, rent and transportation…
Honestly though that id EVERY company under the sun. I'm actually pretty sure I never managed to get some kind of refund, it always ends up somehow being my fault or not being covered
Well, I'm glad I got my 4 Jak & Daxter Collector's editions and then got out right then. And I'm glad my money was at least well spent in that, the products I ended up getting were great, exactly what I hoped for, though it was frustrating watching them sell out in literally *seconds* with all the scalper bots. I managed to get the two I missed (TPL and 3) through a form they posted after they sold out, which was a waiting list for the copies they clear out from bots. I feel for all those who got worse options or have been waiting for a long time for what they already paid for. And I sure won't be supporting them anymore.
Inevitable? We've been in one for nearly a year now.
We are literally already in a recession
I wish I saw this a month before I did back in 2021. I pre-ordered Star Wars: TFU back in late-summer 2021. It's now Jan. 2024 and there's been a whole 2 emails about updates on the process of development for this, I uh. Yeah. Do your research before purchasing kids, otherwise you'll be going on year 2.5 still waiting for a product.
I'm gonna tell you right now, ANY association with Tommy Tallarico is a very, very bad sign for a business.
for a company that cares so much about game preservation, they sure do make their physical runs limited :/
They don't care about preservation.
The only people genuinely interested in preservation are putting ROMs and ISOs up online for free. These slimeball companies are just FOMO merchants.
Are you saying this seriously or as I joke? 😂😂
-complains about runs being limited
-company is literally called Limited Run Games 😵😵😵
@@alexingram4337 gonna make a company named "I kill Animals" and when people complain im gonna say "ummm it's literally in the name why are you complaining"
@@alexingram4337 and yet they say its all in the name of preservation, why would they make their runs so limited if they actually __were__ all in the name of?
Watching this way after it released, and holy shit, this is so on point with several past shopping experiences and some general discomforts that I have with the company. I watched the whole video; it has aged super well and needs to be spread around more. Extremely well done here!
I live in NC and Could Literally just drive 1hr to Get A Limited Run Game. One time I decided to buy one on it website that it currently available because I did not want to make the Drive. Took 2 month to get it. Went there twice and saw it in the shelf at the time. They would not let me grab one and mark it a Delivered even though it still was not shipped.
I was mostly fine with LRG until their recent Jedi: Survivor collector's edition. There were already red flags going off in my head, since EA was going to LRG to release the collector's edition (you know, EA, one of the biggest publishers on the market?), but I went for it anyway because I love the series and wanted the lightsaber that came with it. The game arrived a week after release, the physical copy was the same as any you could buy in any store, and the lightsaber was the same as the one they sold at Disneyland that I already owned, it just had a different battery cover to fit the look of the lightsaber in Survivor. Just a month or two later, Disney Parks started selling a newer, better version of Cal's lightsaber that changes color. Basically, LRG repackaged existing product (which Disney most likely was looking to get rid of), sold it at a semi-jacked up price, and gave really nothing that you couldn't have gotten elsewhere. I still have my collectible box though! Woo! (Edit: Man I'm tired of "collectible box" being a selling point on a lot of these games)
Man, I wish I found this video a year ago. I don't like having to buy digital if I can avoid it (rather have something in my hands and be solely responsible if it messes up), but I've been waiting since March for a collector's edition of a game that already got deliveries for other consoles back in November - and it's almost February now. I have been debating trying to get my money back, but that sounds just as impossible after this video; plus, I used a Visa gift card to avoid using my own credit card, so I don't know if they can send my money back or even if I still have that particular card. This really wasn't worth it.
It took so long for them to deliver my Scott Pilgrim physical version, like it was absurd.
Amazingly well researched, scripted, and edited video. Glad to know there’s other companies out there and less predatory companies.
I just wanted to say thank you for this video and the information in it. I've been fighting with myself to stop buying and it's become a problem for some time. I keep saying that's it. No more. And then before I even get the products I purchased I'm already infatuated with another and I'm buying that one as well and it consumes my mind with frustration and it hurts. I appreciate the list of reasons that you have explaining why a person like me would do this. Anyway, I hope this helps me. I'll try to send this video to my friends as well.
And? Did you manage to detox and stay sober?
@@AsurasWrath164 I have only reduced the number of games I buy considerably. I still buy some but I can resist now. I'm doing better but it's not perfect. This was an amazing year for new games but I barely cared for the great majority fortunately.
@@AsurasWrath164 oh, I don't buy a single game from these supposed game preservation companies like LRG, Super Rare, etc al.
so that's a positive in my mind.
This video helped me identify and quell my inner consumerism. Hope you get yours sorted out! ❤
im gonna be honest the shantae statue problem makes my ocd go crazy at just the thought and im like omg i couldnt live with a broken statue like that it would drive me nuts
I just want to state that the Customer Service section was spiritually debilitating because of those Death Stranding delivery fails.
I think we should discuss more about MetalJesus helping them to start their scam scheme.
Wow, that guy helped them start out? I didn't know that. Gonna have go down the rabbit hole now.
@@meropolis just watch the video.
@@meropolis this is explained in the first half or so - if you missed it, basically metaljesus claimed the physical release for such n such game was possibly the rarest ever, which artificially inflated the value. if youve ever tried to find certain old games, especially *lost* games, youd know this is demonstrably and observably false.
Don't do that.
No we shouldn't.
Dude is one of the most wholesome TH-camrs to ever exist.
And I'd bet my paycheck you hate that and just want to sling mud on him.
@@TheActionHank smoothbrain
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I have a physical copy of the Back to the Future game for PS4 and it's not available for purchase as a digital game. So I'm confused about that.
Yeah, that confused me as well. There are in fact more physical-only PS4/PS5 games. They are edge cases but they exist. So I wonder how that works.
@@symphony137 edge case?
@@Cody-Bear Yeah, like your Back to the Future copy. It's one of those edge cases where the game only exists physically.
Don't think I have ever bought anything from them.
And now never will.
I hate how close lrg is to lgr for acronyms like I keep thinking Clint did something bad
I pre-ordered the Jurassic Park Classic Collection from Limited Run. Its been 65 million years and I still don’t have it.
And you never contacted them?
game collecting used to be such a fun hobby before it became an investment instead of just a game. I used to love physical collecting so much, now I can't stand it because it has been ruined by all the people getting into it just to make money
If they cared about game preservation you'd think they would sell more copies of their games
Yes exactly
The thing they actually care about it squeezing as much money out of you as they can.
Lol true
Wasn't that why it's called limited run tho?
I use to work for a collectable company. All these things are common practices Selling the same thing renumbering them with multiple same numbers. Giving the elution that its rare.
All my GOG purchases are physical. They are stored on two harddrives.
I had no idea LRG did this and tbh it further cements my opinion that collecting videogames is turning into a big fucking scam, especially retro games.
However, people really need to get some personal responsibility and stop buying these things just out of FOMO. I have no problem with them selling multiple versions of the same product with different colors because people like choices. But they're supposed to be just that, choices, you're not supposed to buy them all and if you do it's totally on you. I don't see what's predatory about selling things in different colours.
Exploiting the dopamine rush you get when buying stuff isn't predatory, that's just marketing. What's scummy about LRG is the whole reselling of their own products to maximise profit, which i'm pretty sure is illegal. Operating under the guise of game preservation when limiting prints at every opportunity and artificially inflating the value of their products is the real problem here.
And the Shantae thing... Just gross.
Collecting video games has always been a scam lmfao. The other difference is that prior to around 2013 it was at least pretty damn affordable to do so. Now it really is just the hobby horse of the super wealthy and/or those who wish to intentionally manipulate the market and benefit from the insanely artificial price hikes.
It isn't about game preservation, it isn't about playing games authentically. The preserving had already been done and things like ODEs and flashcarts have given us the ability to play entire console libraries 100% authentically on original hardware for the cost of only said ODE/flashcart.
If you collect games, you're probably someone with more disposable income then they no what to do with or you've just been pulled into the scam that is game collecting.
@@SomniaCE I collect games but I am in no way wealthy. I just buy games I enjoy
Exploiting dopamine is predatory. That doesn't change just because someone is making a poor choice to purchase multiple versions. Both of those things are true.
@@Aster_Risk You’re literally saying that everything that makes people happy is predatory then - that’s just stupid. Producing multiple covers / colours for things has been happening for literally more than a century. Just evaluate the cost and buy the one you want. If you have enough money and are stupid enough to want to buy everything, well, good luck to you. But for everyone else, it’s just a nice little choice to pick the one they like most.
every shady thing one might associate with "artificial scarcity" things, they do. it's a business model built around ripping off people under the guise of giving fans what they want
Castlevania Anniversary Collection was a $35 pre-order game. When it finally shipped and released, it went for $70 on Ebay. Then they announced Best Buy was getting their own version of it for $35 in the future. The value is currently $50 for it on Ebay.
The real question is: Why did people pay $70 for a $35 game?
That surprises you? People pay hundreds or in some cases even thousands of dollars for once $60 games.