Train Plowing Dirt and Grading Work - Rare Track work equipment along the Withrow Sub-
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- In order to keep the tracks and right of way in good order, railroads will sometimes use a Jordan Spreader to reprofile the ballast and dirt along the tracks. This plows, and pushes, the ballast to the sides so the tracks drain properly so the track stays in better shape longer. Seeing this type of operation is pretty rare!
We first see them working near 37th Ave NE in Minneapolis at the top of Shoreham Hill. This was the Soo Line's main back in the day, and was once double tracked. Pushing the Soo spreader is a Canadian Pacific SD30C-ECO. The spreader itself is powered by a Detroit Diesel, and has a distinct sound to it. After making a few passes, we'll head down the line to Johnson St NE. We'll get to see it up close, and make a few passes. Additionally, the drone will provide us with a birds eye view, and we can see its massive hydraulic arms extended as it passes. The sheer power it takes to dig into the ground, push, and profile the ROW is amazing... One REALLY cool result of this was seeing where ties of the second main used to be. It looks like they just tore out main track two....although that's been gone for over 30 years!
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What's wild about Jordan Spreaders was that they were originally designed to do this, MOW work especially with ballest. It wasn't until Jim Jordan on the Espee who figured they would be really useful with snow in the Sierras and thus what we get today.
Nailed it! Many people don't know that, and its neat to see all of the uses that this piece of has. Thanks for watching!
Interesting to see it plowing something other than snow. Love those flared radiators on the ECO also!
Same here, and it was so neat to watch! Glad you enjoyed it, and thanks for the comment.
Great to see CP keeping up the Right of way... and really neat to see a Jordan spreader in action !!
Hello jo bot
How are you doing hun
Thank you for the kind comment! It was really cool to see, and amazing how easily it moved so much Earth!
This is the best Jordon Spreader video by far on TH-cam!
Thank you for the kind words, and I'm glad you enjoyed it!! :D
Neat stuff! It's more rare to catch a Jordan Spreader playing in the dirt than it is play in the snow. And as another one of your commenters said, it was originally designed as a dirt mover and trencher. That SD30C-ECO sure looks cool too. Not a unit I get to see here in Arizona. And that horn at the end, sounds like an old single chime Leslie, is my guess. Like I said at the beginning, neat stuff!
From the UK. Would love to spend a month in the US Rail fanning and chasing equipment like this. Fantastic footage, many thanks Sir,
Great footage of the spreader in action. Really enjoyed it!!
Thank you for the kind words, and I'm glad that you enjoyed it. While I've heard of them doing this before, this was my first encounter, and it was neat.
You have to love the sound of a Detroit Diesel screaming at full RPM providing the hydraulic power for the Jordan Spreader.
No you don’t. Worst sound on the planet.
I have never seen a machine like that. What a deal, great video. I suppose it works well in the winter as well.
Definitely a 2-stroke Detroit Diesel powering the spreader hydraulics.
Oh yeah! I could listen to that all day long!
I was thinking it was a Detroit power the hydraulics, but wasn't sure. It sounded GOOD. :D Thanks for the comment, and watching!
Nothing else sounds like a 2 stroke Detroit, same can be said of the EMD 567,645 and 710 all GM 2 stroke as well.
I worked for Pandrol Jackson in 1999,which was bought out by Harsco Corp in 2000. The shop in Syracuse N.Y . was building a Plow /Ballast Spreader for the Alaskan Rail Road . The shop was using prints from one of the original plows they had built in the 40s . From what I remember I was told Pandrol Jackson use to be Jackson -Jordon at one time . I believe the Plow was one of the last projects that was done at the Syracuse shop , before they closed .
Very therapeutic to watch! Nicely filmed as usual.
Glad you enjoyed it, and I appreciate the kind words! This was so neat to see in person, and a fairly rare catch too!
I like your skill, keeping your drone out of the trees and the power lines! Excellent footage
Does your handle show that you like SD45's?, or is that just a coincidence? Have you worked on them or ran them, or just a Rail Fan that knows what he likes...?
I'm completely against vandalism, but it would be really funny if across the front someone put ""
Love how that old Jordan Spreader still has some Soo Line markings! Great footage btw!
Glad you enjoyed the video, and thanks for the comment! I heard it's former Milwaukee Road too, so think of where it's been over the years.
A lot of RR equipment is so identified for business or tax reasons. That's why you see NYC and PRR equipment on the NS and CSX.
If you guys think this is cool, I need to find you some footage of our Aussie track machines.
Around here when you see one of theses working it usually means they are trying to make a line look good for a sale. Good video!
Nice to hear that Jimmy sing it’s song 😃
The greatest country in the world and this is our hi tech train system. Other countries have 300 mph trains.
Thank you for the comment, and watching. While this isn't high tech equipment, you need to realize this is a freight route, and not for high speed rail. Even along high speed routes, these use machines just like this to perform the same work such as grading.
I love the sound of the Detroit diesel ripping away to power the hydraulics.
Thanks for the video! As far as you know, is it the same Jordan Spreader that they use on snow, or is it a different type used for plowing?
The same equipment is used for clearing snow.
Thanks for the comment! They do indeed use this for both applications, but this is the first time I've seen it used for grading work.
@@SD457500 As a locomotive engineer, I've been on work trains using a spreader in all seasons. They're a very effective tool for ditching as well.
@@thomasdupee1440 Must be a neat experience to be running with one of those!
@@SD457500 My entire career was a neat experience.
Were these lines double tracked roads that were singled, or built with wide margins from day one? Very impressive, both on the equipment and the filming.
Thank you for the comment, and watching! This route was double tracked until 1986, and used to be the mainline for the Soo Line. During the grading process, it revealed where main two was, and looked like it was just torn out. You can see where the ties and rail were in the last part of the video, even after all these years later.
@@SD457500 Thanks for the reply. Yes: now you pointed it out I can see them (again really nice drone work). It just goes to show how much that was previously hard manual labour can be done in a minutes by a few people too. Thanks again!
I have never seen this before. Thank you for showing this!
Gotta keep that water away from the ties even though they are coated. Proper drainage is a very important thing on railroads
Glad that you enjoyed it! This was a first for me as well, and had work ran late, I would have missed seeing this! It was sheer luck that I came across it when I saw a track block on ATCS show up, and checked it out.
Yup saw the stains in the ballast of the old second track coming back to the surface.
Wow you shot some great footage both on the tripod and with your drone. It was smart to put your bug on the bottom of the screen too and I also appreciate the location lower third. I like to know where these get shot. I've never seen this type of spreading or re-profiling before. Thanks.
Seriously on of the coolest videos i have ever seen!!!!!Thanks for posting!!!!!
Glad to hear that you enjoyed it, and thank you for the kind words! :D It was a really neat operation to witness.
That's an excellent video! I really enjoyed it. Thanks for sharing these actions. ;)
Did you know this kind of work was going to take place, or were just lucky enough to be around when it was underway? Interesting video -- I've never seen that kind of work done with a winter plow.
I happened to come across them doing this, and had all of my camera gear on me. They had worked a portion of the track earlier in the week, and I was hoping they might do more. Everything came together perfectly by chance. Thanks for the comment, and watching!
I'm absolutely amazed by this. I had to hit pause so I could grab a drink and some pretzels so I could sit back and watch this. I'm a bulldozer operator so I wanted to see if I could pick up some more tips
Glad you enjoyed the video! The video hardly does it justice; it was SO cool to watch in person.
Wow, that was awesome!
Thank you very much! Glad you enjoyed seeing this neat operation!
Are you the upper or lower jaw tooth?
I could watch that all day, does that mean it’s super interesting or am I just getting lazy. The old girl deserves a lick of paint, great video 👏👏👍
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Hats pretty cool. I wonder why they added so much rock and gravel in the first place?
Thanks for the comment, and I'm glad you enjoyed it! There used to be a second main there 30 years ago, thus why its so wide. When they were doing this work, they pushed a lot of the ballast from main track two off to the side.
I now know what I need to get a smooth driveway and be able to plow the snow quicker.🤣
Great catch!
I mean, imagine how FAST that would plow a driveway and all the snow it could move. Thanks for the comment, and watching!
I lived across the street from the New York Central Yard in Detroit, and they would run a scary flame thrower that burned up the weeds along the track.
That’s a rare catch!
This is rare...
Can I use one clip of this this video in my train compilation video credit to you in video and link in description will be given
Thank you for the comment, and I'm glad you enjoyed it! I will have to decline your offer though.
@@SD457500 no problem... thanks for reply.
I wonder what the old 45 has for power now days ? I'm sure it's not a 20 cyl !!
Thanks for the comment! It's actually about SD30C-ECO, a rebuilt SD40-2, not an SD45.
Looks like a Bob Rivard scene at the end, with the bus waiting at the crossing.
Nailed it! Fun fact, Bob was a huge inspiration for my shooting style when I started doing video years ago.
Straight out of a Mad Max movie.
Now this is something I haven't really seen, pretty cool. I like that ECO as well
thats quite a plow wagon there.sounds like an old 2 stroke detroit powering the hydrolic pump.
Super cool video. Dont get to see much of this work done.
I think your video was stolen and reposted as someone else. They blurred out your information. Let me know how to contact you if you would like so I can share the video and page using your video.
Thank you for reaching out; was this on Facebook? I heard if it on there. Can you send me the link?
Nice video. I managed to watch the WC 315 do some ditching work some 30 years ago, well before I go my video camera.
Whats the point of some trains having beacons (the orange flashing light) and some without
Boy I love jordan spreaders. Saw one in south dakota that sat in watertown. It had a build date of 09/1923
Every new thing I learn about railroads is cooler than the last. I mean, look at that thing!
Great video, by the way!
Super tecnology super development awesome
WOW! One has to wonder how frequently the wear parts on those blades have to be replaced. Railway aggregates are extremely abrasive!
The rail term for the rock and gravel is BALLAST
Great video. Excellent drone and editing work. Subbed.
Much appreciated, and thank you very much! Glad you enjoyed the video of this neat operation.
I also enjoyed the Jimmy running the hyd pump
Is the engine controlled from the cab of the grader?
Yes I control everything from my cab
Thanks for the comment, and watching! Yes, the engineer controls the locomotive from the cab, and runs based of what the spreader crew tells them. The arms on the spreader are control from the spreader itself.
The Jordans makes great ditches too.
I bet that spreader has skinned lots of cables in it's life.
Hi from NZ,
Anthony.
Why so wide? There must be 15 foot of space on both sides.
It is like this for two reasons. This used to be double track, and they want to ensure the right of way has good drainage as well. Thank you for watching!
It’s like that on my property with trains on it they’re working on two crossings on our property down here in West Virginia
So. If this wasn't for improving drainage, I'd say this was union busy work.
Second question are they remodeling the tracks for doing a second main just like 1970s and 1980s
That's what I'm wondering too. I hope so!
@@Jinkinzzz All right
Thanks for the comment, and watching! It looks like they were improving the drainage along the ROW.
@@SD457500 Oh i see okay
Man they got railway equipment that do it all... time keep on slipping into the future.
Awesome Work on the Intstate Lets Do More
Im somewhat of a novice but Could this be a sign that they are prepping to put a second rail line in on this section or is there much more in depth preparation for that and this is just for distributing ballast and keeping ROW clear? Very cool video never the less I've never seen this happen before!
Thank you for watching, and the comment! This work was mainly being done for improved drainage along the right of way. As far as I know, there are no plans to put the second main back in.
Looks too complicated and the hard way..! Wouldn't it have been easier to come to that railroad crossing with a lowboy, drop a motor grader and maybe a small dozer and done the same thing.? I mean those blades taken out the sides are nothing but a big motor grader technically.. if u miss the spot then u have to go back to grab more which is too much trouble cuz then you got a raise everything and then having train back up.. way to aggravating
This method is actually the fastest, and most cost efficient way to reprofile the right of way. They can profile it how they'd like, and the locomotive provides LOADS of power to move things.
The NYS&W once used a Jordan spreader to push trees and weeds away from a long dormant main line. They were bringing the line back into service. This was back in the late 1980s.
WHY are they spreading ballast SO far out? Every RR Ive walked on growing up had a very narrow left and right ballast slope. Why so much here? Seems wasteful
Two fold; there used to be a second main back until the late 1980s, which is now used as an access road by the railroad. Second one is for better drainage so the ties don't rot out in water. Thanks for watching!
Looks almost as if they are prepping to lay a second track alongside the existing one.
Are they going to lay a second track alongside or is it just to keep the track side neat and tidy? It looks to be very wide on one side compared to the other and I guess new stone has been positioned by an earlier train at great expense. I have never seen this being done in any of the many countries I have travelled to and worked in. They just let the side be and spray weedkiller and chop back overhanging branches. Thank you for uploading this.
This is a question for any train fans.
About 20 yrs ago I saw a track maintenance train that had fire blasting out of the bottom. I assume they were burning weeds. Does anyone know what that engine/car is called?
Thx!!!
I know what you're talking about, and I used to be a production planner for them. They are called a rail grinder, and you likely saw one made by Loram. They grind the rail head down just a bit to reprofile it back it its original shape, and giving the rail more service life. Would you like a link to a video I have of those neat machines?
Nice Video ! But why the Helmet in the Train ? Greatings from Germany !
•How is a Canadian loco being used for work in Minneapolis?
•Does the spreader have its' own engines for everything but locomotion?
•The spreader has lights. (Not on.) Does it have it's own horn?
•Does the spreader have brakes?
1 The DP took over the old Soo Line.
2 Yes, the engine operates the hydraulics and generator for lights and AC.
3 Yes, I think that was its horn at the end.
4 Yes, absolutely. With a correct set-up of controls, the engineer can operate the pusher loco and air brakes from the cab of the spreader so he can see where he is going and doing. In the old days, a Jordan spreader was air-powered and took its control air from the train line and had a large air reservoir about where the engine is on this one. The air cylinders were large also. Hydraulics are easier and more precise to use than air.
CP could stand to do the same work along the Peterborough-Havelock sub-line in Ontario. Nice to see straight tracks, no 6 ft. weeds and no dips in the roadbed every 50 ft.
That was cool using the snow plow for dirt. Never seen that done like that before. Thanks for the video.
The prototype flying train was a failure and nobody dared tell them they'd put the wings on wrong.
Wow!! Awesome video! Superb drone camera views also! Thank you for posting this video! Very interesting! Be safe out there!!
Glad you enjoyed it, and thank for the kind words on the video! :D
Awesome! I just obtained an HO version by Walther's to go with a previously bought matching Russell Snow plow, also in Soo Line colors!
This is a great video! John BC, Canada (nee St.Paul, MN)
shows how much power just 1 engine has
Nailed it!! It takes a lot of power to move all that dirt. Thank you for the comment, and watching!
This is one the coolest train videos that I have even seen!
Great video. Your time is appreciated 👍🏻👍🏻
More TC&W Videos please! That railroad has so much video potential west of glencoe!
Thanks for the comment! All in time, I hope to get out that way sometime soon.
How long does this job take to do in a day or a week???? Does it depend on the length of tracks that need to be done?? It is interesting when a train company cares to get this done for their tracks!! Thank you,safety and keeping clear and clean great idea,thanks!!!!!!!!! Be blessed!!!!!
May 2-stroke diesels live forever!!!
Pretty cool seeing the Jordan spreader at work.
Keeps popping up, so it is watched many times …
I hope you enjoyed it! Thank you for the comment!
Right of way?!? They plowed a wide enough swath to put in a complete secondary line. Why?
This used to be a double tracked main; they were grading for better drainage, and to improve the ROW. Thanks for watching!
So is that machine working independently from the engine behind it? Or is it using it for movement?
Kind of; the locomotive is shoving the plow, but the plow has its own power to open and close the wings, and move various parts of it. Thank you for the comment, and watching!
Absolutely the best video of this type of operation I have seen !!! Great action of a spreader working hard. Thanks. James.
Nice Overhead views. Thanks
Glad you liked it, and thanks for watching!
@@SD457500 Question...where was this footage taken?
@@general5104 All locations are listed in each scene, and in the start of this video. This was shot in NE Mpls, MN on the CP Withrow Sub, at various crossings.
That Detroit diesel is awesome and the locomotive is too!
Thank you for the comment, and watching! The locomotive is an SD30C-ECO, and is powered by a two stroke EMD 710 V16 engine. It is some really neat technology!
Love the flared radiators on the 45's! My favorite loco after E and F units.
Thank you for the comment, and watching! As razzle58 also stated, this is an SD30C-ECO, which is a rebuilt SD40-2 with a 710 engine and various other upgrades.
@@SD457500 thanks for the info. Interesting that they would use the flared style of the 45.
Ol screamin Jimmy running the show, you gotta love a Detroit
Interesting!!!....How does the train get traction to push all that material???🤔🤔
The locomotive provides all of the needed power to push the spreader for this operation. An SD30C-ECO has 3000 horsepower! Thanks for the comment, and watching.
*me walking by the train tracks with headphones in…
An old Jordan with Frog Eyes!
It was a pretty cool catch! I think the plow is former Milwaukee Road from what I've heard. Thanks for watching!
Very Excellent catching. It is Very different informable experience to me also 😍
Thank you for the kind comment, and glad you enjoyed it!
Not sure why so much gravel and ballast is being thrown away from the tracks.
Two fold; there used to be a second main back until the late 1980s, which is now used as an access road by the railroad. Second one is for better drainage so the ties don't rot out in water. Thanks for watching!
Looks like people don't care where they dump their trash. Did you notice all those cans.
I did; I think it was also a mix of fireworks from a few nights prior. Thanks for the comment, and watching!!
Train transformers 😁
Nice video friend👍
Thanks for sharing... New subs from Indonesian railways..
Greetings 😁
Are they making the tracked wider to accommodate another track to makes the sections shown dual tracks?
Thank you for watching, and the comment! In this instance, it was done to improve drainage, and improve the quality of the roadbed. No word on the second main going back in anytime soon. :/
Good video. It also appears they were preparing to lay down a second set of rails there due to the appearance of how wide the right side was. I may be wrong. Just an idea.
It use to be double tracked in the eighties don't know why they took out the other track.
Cool, I live about two miles away. Most of my stuff is old buildings. Check out those old world railroad bridges. Look at the foundations. Nicolet Island is a good place. Just shot bunch of pictures of the old Depot in Red Wing,
well THATS a mega piece of kit!!!!! I was a train engineer in the UK for many years ( thats NOT the driver in the UK folks in USA - we fixed the train :) Railways always intrigue me. I lived in the US for a while I married a Missouri gal! This is a fascinating piece of kit in the UK our tracks are so small and narrow it wouldnt fit.
Can anyone explain to me what the wings on the Caboose were for?? I know these are no longer fitted does anyne know what they were for? I have seen many pictures of stationary trains with the Caboose wings out but never moving. Were they for snow clearing perhaps?