Arnside Tidal Bore Morecambe Bay Feb 2019. An Understated Showing Of Nature’s Raw Power.Pls read des
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- It started slowly, it didn’t have a huge bow wave as the estuary is nearly a half mile wide unlike the Severn Bore which goes down a much narrower river. More water flows into Morecambe Bay on one spring tide than goes over the Niagara Falls in a week. 6 MINUTES into the film if you want to see it flying. But then it just kept coming and getting more power. For scale the viaduct is 522 yards long. An incredible spectacle and one I won’t forget in a hurry. It shows why you have to treat Morecambe Bay which is in Cumbria, England, with real respect. Amazing to witness such power in nature. There were actually 5 kayakers / surfers who had all lost the wave by the time it reached us. February 19 2019.
Below is a video of the Bore actually starting
Start of Arnside Tidal Bore. Dusk @Silverdale Lancashire. Unexpected!!
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I love watching the power of water in action. You captured it well, with the eddy’s swirling around. It takes awhile (minutes) for the bore to push its way upstream but it is like the shear mass of water increases behind it until it just boils along. Impressive.
Thank you ever so much for watching it through. Most think after first few minutes it stops and obviously it certainly doesn’t! Many aren’t realising that and missing the real spectacle but it was a long time ago and I can’t re edit so thanks again 👍👍👍
@@pauljones401 Here in Seattle we have a miniature rendition in the form of The Ballard Locks. This is actually a fully fledged dam that keeps the water level constant for the ship canal (including the fresh water moorage for Fisherman’s Terminal) and a couple of hundred water based businesses (UW Oceanography, the seaplane harbor) on Lake Union, then continuing on to all of Lake Washington.
But, back to the locks. On a busy summer’s day they can fill the large lock with any boat that will fit, or raft, to another boat. Seventy foot (20 meter ) vessels, all the way down to the topless fifty year old lady in the 16 ft. runabout and her three man 6crew. The large lock is 80 feet by 825 feet (24 by 251 Meter) and they fill it right up. Takes about an hour. If you are in to watching boats this is your place to be.
But, back to the locks. So after a time of filling, the lower gates are closed and the water begins to rise, I’d say 20 minutes to fill. The best moment of the whole operation is about to happen. They don’t wait for the water level between the locks and the ship canal to really even out. I don’t know the actual level difference, but it is inches not feet (less than .2 meters would be my guess). So the upper gates begin to open, and you can see the first release of lake water stream through. It gets better very quickly. It builds just like your tidal flow. Soon, every boat is feeling the strain, in turn, down the length of the locks. The narrow start of the flow builds in width and power until you can hear it and watch it and see the power of the flow. That’s just a couple inches (?) of water power.
@@clayz1 That’s a brilliant description of something that absolutely I would be watching! ( ship film to come next week) but i grew up around canals and locks being from the north of England and it never fails to attract bystanders when the locks flood through. It’s funny I’ve had a lot of comments saying it’s not big enough, bay of fundy etc, and it’s like have you watched it through??!!! Still I’m proud of my part of the country (we’re both from a north west!!) and this is our wave!! All the best Paul
What mesmerizes me so much is that that water is chasing the moon, 30 earth diameters away or 238,900 miles away. The power required to move that much volume of water is staggering. And it's all done with gravity, an invisible force that we have no clue what it actually is. Nature is amazing.
There were lots of us there watching kind of thinking the same!
Brilliant video! Nature is fascinating! Thanks! Cheers, Tom
Thank you Tom. I remember getting dissed by someone in Brazil about this film saying I should shut up. But it was absolutely amazing to see this spectacle and I didn’t apologise! All the best Tom. Paul
Incredible to see. Thanks for catching this and sharing.
I really appreciate the comment and I thought it was fantastic too and I was lucky to be there! Thank you
I was making a delivery to Arnside a few years back when I first saw this. I stood staring at it in awe and a local said "I've lived here 40 years and it still impresses me".
It’s not as initially as powerful as it used to be 40 years ago as the channels have changed. But I hear they are to build a footbridge next to the viaduct and I certainly would not be able to stand on that with the tide rushing in!!
Impressive! I've lived my whole life well in land, never once have I been near any beach or ocean and now reside in the Sonoran Desert. No bores here, although we do have the occasional hundred year flash flood. I cannot fathom the speed in which this bore and the tides in Morecambe Bay come in! I think one of the most terrifying/fascinating moments was watching the water level rise and begin to swirl in a swift circular fashion, as if it had nothing better to do. Thank you for posting this gem, blessings from a desert dweller!
Thank you and good things to you too! Once seen as a young boy it was never forgotten and to get such an amazing day to film made it very special. Quite a day. The film like to bore just keeps going! All the very very best Paul
@@pauljones401 Hi Paul! Question for you, is it quite as dramatic when it turns to low tide or does it recede more gradually?
@@VashtiInez This is amazing to talk to a real gent so far away!! It really made me smile when I got your message Christmas Day! It receded in a very slow way, it’s not that exciting. You would not wait around for it! Paul
@@VashtiInez This is it filmed from further up the coast Vashti. About a year later
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@@pauljones401 I'm so glad, it's lovely to make someone smile, even across the globe :)! Thank you so much for the videos and information. As the tide comes in so fast, I thought it'd rush out to another place at low tide too! It's always fascinating to see what mother nature is up to in other parts of the world. For my end, I'm told we are somewhere in a fifty year drought. I can well believe it because our Monsoon has underwhelmed these past two years and our winter rains have been lackluster as well. I've even had to water my cactus!
That is extraordinary, Paul! I had no knowledge of this phenomenon previously. It takes me back to the time when the cocklers drowned.
Hi Keith. It’s not the initial surge it’s that 4th or 5th minute that just seems to tip the whole process to incredible power
@@pauljones401 Because as the water depth increases, its velocity increases and the force it exerts increases - one cubic metre of water has a mass of 1100 kg, and travelling at say just 5 knots - 5 Nautical Miles per hour, or 30400 feet per hour, which equates to 2.6 metres per second forward movement, and it is constant for about 6 hours 12 minutes.
@@Volcano-Man That’s fascinating because we could see that phenomenon happening and it was all about the increase in velocity it turns out, not the initial bow wave Thank you.
@@pauljones401 You are welcome
Very impressive, Paul, thanks. Easy to see from this how people get caught out by the speed of the incoming tide in Morecambe Bay.
I’ve watched the Bay of Fundy one now as everyone said it’s way bigger. It isn’t at all at the start just like this one. Hopefully I’ll see it again soon. Thank you Paul
As a kid I had an uncle who lived in Arnside and when we visited him we could see the bohr from his lounge window. Arnside is a lovely place. A fantastic view is from the top of Arnside knott, or rather was, as it is covered in trees now.
That must have been quite something! It was always an adventure from Stockport for us and you don’t forget it! Thank you! Paul
I remember riding the train from Manchester while traveling to Ulverston and getting a chance to see the effects of the tidal bore watching the River Kent flowing backwards from the train. Nice to see a video of the arrival of the bore. It was a sight I will never forget.
Yes! Train from Manchester to the Lakes District is crappy boring.
And so are you 😘
Really interesting thank you
Wow, My best friend, Wonderful video dear. I enjoyed watching. Hope to see you soon...
I’ll be putting more films up soon.
Thanks for showing this fascinating natural phenomenon!
I loved it! I wonder what people thought about this 1,000 years ago...
Be at the very least something to do with “ the gods “ ! Thank you!
It didn't happen a thousand years ago. Only since humans started burning fossil fuels. If we start paying global carbon taxes this phenomenon will cease.
Wow brilliant visual and excellent commentary throughout, I've not seen that for years, you took me right back there. Thank you Paul, much appreciated.
Thank you very much! I’ll always remember how it just built and built from such small beginnings. And the great Chippy on the front! And actually I’m about to post a big Mersey tidal bore too.
@pauljones401 that sounds amazing Paul, I will look forward to that. I've always fancied going on the train over the Arnside viaduct... one day.
@@graham907 supposed to actually be building a walk way soon! Great area
@@pauljones401 nice one thanks
Think you need to see the Severn Bore!
On the list. Bigger bow wave on Severn bore. This one has more residual energy. They are all a real spectacle!
Beautiful but frightening! Thanks for the education. I love ut!
Thank you glad it’s appreciated 👍
Thank you Paul, for your beautiful Arnside bore video.
I saw it for the first time this Easter Good Friday 7th April 2023 and filmed it for the family to see it.
I was so impressed and moved by it that I created my TH-cam channel.
I am new to this TH-cam malarkey and just posted the video as I filmed it, I don't know how to edit yet😅
I try and film in one take therefore no editing is required!! iMovie for me as all I use is an iPhone. Just one possible tip is to film landscape as that fills up the screen. Over 100 views for first film is super that took me a year to get to that number! Just enjoy it too👍👍👍
@Paul Jones gosh, thank you for your tip, much appreciate it.
I didn't realise that you would reply.
Yes I am enjoying it and not taking it seriously, just going with the flow🏄🏼♀️
@@FreeFlowNatureObserver Actually ps. My channel started as mum got ill and couldn’t go places so I wanted to show her where I went. That’s why I talk. Just didn’t anticipate a few other people would watch too!!!!
@Paul Jones what a wonderful thing to do for your mum, thank you for sharing that.
Sometimes life takes us to unexpected places unexpectedly.
Life is what happens, which we usually miss because in our heads we are to busy thinking about the past or the future 😆
Peaceful
About 70 years ago I camped out here with my school. I remember seeing the bore and porpoises.
We used to spend summer with our uncle at Arnside during the 1960’s. The bore was always spectacular but, when the tide was rushing out it gradually got narrower and narrower until it was a torrent through the open arch of the viaduct.
It was powerful enough to cut through the sand creating its own channel and undercutting the sand at each side. We used to stand on the newly created bank and wait for the current to undercut the bank so that it collapsed under us, carrying us along with the tide. No HSE in those days.
Also, at slack high tide, we would go “treading” for flounders. Walking slowly along in the water and pressing our foot down into the sand we would tread on a flounder, (flat fish). Pinning it to the ground we would bend down, grip its tail, and then throw it onto the exposed sand where we would collect it later, cooking it for dinner.
That video really brought back memories.
Those are some amazing stories. Just the idea of stepping out into that bay feels frankly terrifying! We stayed at grange in the 70’s and that’s when there was a channel right next to the lido with the air raid siren to boot which aged 4 absolutely scared me and I never like going on the sands now because of it! All the best Paul
Alan, We were in Arnside a few years ago and came across a chap who had trained his dog-a retriever-to do the same thing. It would paddle through the shallows and if it felt something "wriggle" beneath its paw, would just stand stand on it and bark!
@@jotomctu Brilliant!
We were young at the time and entered the water in all temperatures and weathers. At Spring tides the water came right up to the sea wall, over the grass. That was the time to run along the pier and launch yourself off into the water. Any other tide state and it was too shallow.
My dad and his mates used to go into the sea at Arnside (presumable when it was safe), to catch flatfish under foot.
It’s amazing how many have said the same about fishing! I think times have changed!! Paul
Got be honest Bobby. Don’t think the danger changed. Just the attitudes of parents! You really had to grow up around that bay to understand it.
Saw this last week - impressive
I was watching the Mersey one last week might well have been same day.
This was just in a book I was reading, great to see it live, thanks
Which book? :)
And he sounds exactly like Captain Jack Sparrow! Super video!
Excellent…we have one on the Loughor estuary and of course a big one on the Severn.
Its amazing that you hear it before you see it
I live very much in-land and have a real hangup about moving water. But back in 1992 I walked the entire length of the causeway from Holy Island (Lindisfarne) to Berwick on Tweed at low tide a distance of about 2.5+ miles. The North Sea was very quiet that day and the skies slightly overcast. I fortifed myself with some mead and a big dish of Sticky Toffee Pudding. It was one of those days that everything I had imagined came to be.
Hope to go there myself soon! I’m not too keen on big tides either!!
Very cool. I love phenomenon like this.
craig schointuch a really top experience!
Really good video thankyou
I appreciate that thank you. P
tnx
Nicely done!
Hi paul. Great video it truly is a stunning place. I'm fishing there on Sunday 18th of October & the tide will be 10.5 metres we shall fish silverdale first then pop round to arnside .it is great to see the bore. Thanks for sharing.
Aw that’s great to hear! It’s been coming in a little earlier than the 2 hours before high tide at arnside so I’d just bear that in mind. Scary and amazing at same time! Have a successful day! Paul
@@pauljones401 thank you I'll try my best 👍👍👍have a good weekend.
Interesting to see. I have seen the tidal bore in several places at The Bay of Fundy Nova Scotia Canada. They are a daily ocurance there,and depending on the height of the tide, are much bigger than this one. The size of the tide goes in cycles with the phase of the moon.
Thank you for commenting. Many have mentioned the bay of fundy so I’ll look at that more.
Many moons ago as a 16/17 year old on a fishing trip I got stuck in the mud up past my knees.. The more you struggle, the more the sand around you turns from firm to “jelly” so knowing that I lay flat spreading my weight and very slowly worked my legs up and free..
Managing to extract myself before a chap with ropes/life ring arrived to help, but for the 5/10 minutes I was working to get free it got scarier by the second..
It was about 100 yards from the railway bridge in your shot..
Funnily enough I’d been fishing in the area (mainly Morecambe with the local angling club) so knew the tides and dangers of the sands, but I was still caught out..
It’s no surprise how many folk have sadly lost their lives over the years in Morecambe Bay and the surrounding area..💔💔
On days like your video it looks so innocuous, showing you must always beware..
I’m reading through comments and most are obviously stopping at the 3/4 minute mark and not seeing what happens after that. Also like you say it’s not just the tide but the other aspects of that bay. It’s unknown to many in the uk never mind would and like you say is a vastly underestimated area.
@@pauljones401 .. Hi Paul
Not a very well known fact but (something like🤦🏻♂️) more water flows into Morecambe Bay on one spring tide than goes over Niagara Falls in a week😳😳
So the volume of moving water over a week flowing in & out of the Bay is mind blowing ..
Having watched the tidal bores in the Lune (though not as spectacular as Arnside) also shows how dangerous it can be there as well, but it’s the mud flats & swiftly moving tides that catch most folk out..
@@MC-nb6jx That’s a fact I now recall and I’ll stick it in the description as I think people aren’t watching through! Hope to go back soon though as it’s just a great area. Thank you for commenting. Paul
@@pauljones401 .. More than welcome, I love this area and when out and about on my bike I’m eternally grateful for what I see👍🏻👍🏻
Especially the sunsets 😁😁
Thanks.
Great video as ever !Stunning part of the UK and it's so close to home really.
We'll try to take the caravan up there soon.
And we did take the caravan up there and it was...glorious !
Sorry just enjoying an England win! Yes it’s a wonderful place! Never bored there!
Just amazing power of nature and it was like molten liquid
Wow! Amazing tidal phenomenon I have never heard of before! Thanks for sharing! I'm subscribed now!
Thank you! Many have been disappointed by the initial lack of action but you’ve obviously stuck with it!!
The Severn bore is the largest in the UK I believe, even attracts surfers
This is going on my "Amazing Things To See After Lockdown" list.
Fabulous! It’s a great area, but follow the tips about when it happens and you’ll have a great day around Arnside as there is much to do! Paul
Great for fishing I love going here
My mum used to fish but I never got the knack!! Superb place!!
There is a pub near Morecambe that is by a road that regularly floods and gets cut off, right by a caravan site, cannot remember the name of it , but that river ebb and flow is something to be seen.
Thank you I’ll look out for that.
The golden ball Hotel
@@ERICTHEKING68 thanks for that i have not been there since 2004, on a course in Morecambe, stayed in a caravan just past the pub, drove into M and back 4 times per day and saw the road flooded. I have never seen the bore come in like that though. Amazing power. Thanks to everyone
Mother Nature is impressive
Never fails to inspire.
Have visited a few times a real nice area and great pies from the bakers
Ken Carr Never tried pies! Have to check next time!
Hey Paul.. if this is exciting go see some videos of the Bores in the Bay of Fundy .. Claimed to be the highest tides in the world..I'm from New Brunswick Canada, use to play on the shores of the Saint john River and we would go "time to run".. it was so fast.. like a wall of water.
Bucket List Hi. Yeah heard of that. This used to be larger in the 1970’s when the estuary was less silted but top call 100% as I find this an amazing piece of nature!
The Amazon has huge tidal bores you can surf on them I have surfed on smaller ones
I came here for the first time ever with my son on Sunday to take photos. We parked near the pier and walked all the way along that coastline. It was very peaceful. But we kept hearing sirens and didn’t have a clue what it was. So we kept walking along the rocks and sand. Then suddenly we heard this loud rush of water coming towards us. So we quickly climbed up the rocks a good 20ft up to a pathway. Not easy for a big guy like me carrying loads of camera equipment! Next minute it was all under water where we were stood down below. We were very very lucky. I’ve never seen anything like it. I’d checked tide times online and it said 2pm high tide but this all happened close to midday. Two hours before
Nice to chat , just went back to this site, always love the tides etc, lived near Snatchems, cycled there sometimes, fished and had a couple on the way home,, safer by bike, and a feed of fish,. take care, 😂
It’s just an amazing spectacle I will never forget only having seen a few times. Hope all safe. P
ooh just found this - looks so innocent but so dangerous - im only just up the coast- will look up tide times to visit here - thank you for sharing this with us
21-23 feb are 10m ones so should be good to view
@@pauljones401 ooh thank you - just checking the train times - the west coast Cumbria line is very unreliable - might just be brave and drive the a595 😂
@@morrislouiseeagle7161 Be about 11am on 21st then about 11.30 and 12 to be sure to see it. 👍
@@pauljones401 thanks x
I used to fish for salmon under the viaduct, there's a good fish and chip shop nearby -- nice bit of nostalgia thanks, from southern Spain.
Yes rest assured fish and chip shop still fantastic! Just noticed the description on your channel too. I’m a bass player as well!
I was here with my family about 50 years ago and we watched helplessly as a little boy was swept away under the viaduct - terrifying.
3 adults dived in to try to save him and one of them drowned too. Tragic.
People really do not understand the danger of this. Get out of the water well in time!
It’s hard to comment on that horrific memory. But I was taught a lesson in the late 70s when it came into grange over sands and that was the amount of locals who would clearly help and state the power of that tide. I’m sorry if this brought up a bad memory but I hope I was responsible with how I delivered this film. Paul
@@pauljones401 Thanks for the info, it's not really a "bad" memory but a vague one - I was only about 8 years old. Kids are quite resilient to things that adults would fear them to experience.
Yes, it was sad, but also a lesson in respecting nature and one that has probably saved my life a few times as an almost reckless teenager.
Yes, you were responsible - don't worry!
I think hundreds, if not thousands of people have lost their lives there, and on the mudflats over the centuries!
As I say amazing video 🤣👍🏻
Arnside is going to be SO busy after lockdown is lifted. Great video of an amazing force of nature.
Thank you! I love the theme of your channel too! I’ve never seen a wild badger. Its on the list.
I didn't even know this existed! Great content 👏, thank you for sharing
Matt Phillips Thank you! It was really really exciting!!! Hopefully to show more people this amazing event.
I remember this as a child my grand parents had a caravan on Barnes farm . We spent many holidays enjoying this area. I also remember going Treading (that's what they called it) we would walk through the water on the sand flats after the tide was in , when you stepped on a flat fish you would press down then grab the fish , I was young so always jumped but the adults caught plenty of plaice and sole etc, Does anyone still do this ? . I seem to remember some of the Tidal waves being pretty high sometimes a foot or 2.
Living in Brisbane i would like to visit Arnside again one day, Very happy memories.
I’ve heard stories of treading actually in the comments on this film. I think now it would cause such a furore that those doing it would be rescued by coastguards. Grange was where we normally say it before the channels changed. Talk of a footbridge next to the railway bridge is exciting so I’ll definitely be back too! Paul
Have you ever seen the tidal bores on the Amazon and the Yangtze rivers, they make this "powerful and amazing" bore look like a dribble. Go check them out to see what I mean!
Yes I’m aware of them but this one comes alive at 6.24 👍
Saw the bore on the river Lune, once!
Great filming and sound,I used to fish here and have a couple at the pub
bill smith Thank you. It’s a different world that village. Hope to go back there soon actually!
@@pauljones401 great memories, stuck down under now, love my home town, Morecambe, love to go back,
@@billsmith305 We’ve talked before! But genuinely a moment of nature that honestly took my breath away. Hope you’re ok Bill. Stay safe. Paul
@@pauljones401 Thank you Paul
*stares wistfully into the distance, remembering pubs*
hi i lived in grange in the 60s and 70s saw it many times i live in weston super mare like morcambe bay the tide can come in rather quickley i know i love watching holiday makers getting caught out and i fly my drone when the coast gard have to launch and rescue them
It was the 70’s bore that came around the old lido with the air raid siren that frankly terrified me age 5! Never forget it! Thank you for the fun words!!
Fantastic video. I knew about the severn bore but fidnt know that other rivers had them. Why dont geography teachers talk abouy tbis?
It still terrifies me from the 1979 tide I saw over at grange over sands with the full air raid sirens. Thank you! Paul
used to go to Arnside Gala and my dad always mentioned the strong current in the sea and to stay away because when the tide comes in it's like a Galloping horse!!
I could never go on the beach there as I was frankly too scared!!
@@pauljones401 me too!! until I knew any better I believed it was a real monster currant!! like a sultana yeah.
my gran took me and my siblings to the gala and we often wondered off. I'm so,so pleased I came across this footage,at long last I can actually say I saw it dad!!
rip.💜
Usain Bolt would lose a race against the bore.
This particular geographic phenomena dates from around 5500 bc, so previously to then, it was part of the great overland trade route for stone axe heads from Great Langdale, the turn inland being around here.
It’s conceivable that they probably followed the path of least resistance- which would be the pathing of the railway. I’m sure there were quarries near here too
We have a tidal bore here in Nova Scotia at Truro. Unfortunately tourists confuse this tidal bore with the high tides of the Bay of Fundy which are about 40 feet and the highest in the world. Sadly tourists stand by the Salmon River expecting this 40 foot wave to roll in, only to be disappointed by a wave similar to the one you showed. I'm sure they would ask for their money back, if they had actually paid anything in the first place.
Thank you I’ll have a look at that. You can’t win with some people!!!
Just watched it. It’s fantastic!
*Theres a bore on the ‘River Ribble’ Preston… Lancashire. Lived in & around Preston all my life & never knew we had one, until I accidentally saw it… a year or two back..! It travels 15 miles up river..! Best spot to see it, is from the bullnose… Harbour entrance..! It’s a sight to see..!* 😳
Wow thank you! I’d heard something happened on the ribble but I didn’t know where to see it. That’s great!!
@@pauljones401 Google map the harbour / marine entrance from the river. There’s a stretch of land called the ‘Bullnose’, that separates the river from the lock gates and entrance to the old harbour/ marina…
You’ll know your in the right place; as it’s usually populated by fishermen… You can drive your car down on to the bullnose as most of the fisherman do. Or just park on the road ‘Maritime Way’…
The next decent high tides at Preston are on Sunday April 17th @ 12:35 pm with a 5.44 m tide… & Monday April 18th @ 13:14pm with a 5.54 m tide.
In order to see the bore come up river. You need to be on the ‘Bullnose’ itself to get a good view and a couple of hours earlier at the very least to see it…
Once you see it coming up river and it arrives, the shows not over, because the rate of knots that the tide pushes the water up river is pretty amazing… that usually takes place within the hour of the bore’s arrival…
There are of course even bigger tides. A quick search would help you narrow that down to the time and date… for future visits…
Good luck hope to see you down there sometime..!
ntslf.org/tides/hilo
@@thegreateststruthsnevertold Thank you so much for all the information. I’m doing a late night gig on 16th so won’t be home until 3am! But you’ve given me some great guidance there 100% thank you very much! Paul
I remember a hooter/siren used to be sounded to warn of the incoming.
It was broken that day unfortunately.
WOW!! thanks for sharing, Q. Have you ever walked across Morecambe bay, i wouldn't dare. Hehe
Still gives me terrors from when the tide used to come in much closer on the opposite side of the bay. With an air raid siren and I was about 5. So in answer. No!!!
I see, but what happened when you were 5 did you and your family, get caught out, by the fast incoming tide.
@@darrelirvine5560 we were watching it but I didn’t know what to expect and it was in a really narrow channel back then near grange over sands. It was really powerful and frankly scary
@@pauljones401 Crikey, i bet it was, did you hear about, the father and son, who got caught out, at arnside I think it was, I think they were fishing, and a massive fog bank, came in, and they couldn't see, the other side, and the tide came in, and they both drowned, although I think the water temperature probly killed them, rather than drowning, I could be wrong, apparently the emergency services, were called out, because someone on shore, had heard them shouting, but they couldn't see them, and it was to dangerous, to go out blind, so to speak, a truly heart braking story, the saddest part of all was, they were really, really, familiar with that area, but the fog bank, totally through them, and most heartbreaking of all was, they found the father, within hours, but the man's son, was found on a mud bank, miles away, a truly awful tragedy, and yet, they have guided walks across the bay, even children's groups, given the speed of the tide, when it in, surely it's just too dangerous, and yet...
The amount of electricity this can generate is absolutely massive! (There is a similar one that occurs at the mouth of the Severn in South Wales..) food for thought…
Absolutely. Only problem is this tide can move around the bay more. But more upstream would surely work if they can work out how to store it
The river Severn also has a bore and these are normally at Easter time and the elvers baby eels come up the river and sometimes people water ski on the incoming water
I’ve seen on tv that happens. I really hope to see it in real life too and any benefits to wildlife like our native eels would be brilliant
Fantastic video! Tell me you stopped by the "Arnside Chippy" for lunch.
Mister Geer we did actually and I had a cup of coffee too which I hardly ever do! Thank you for watching.
Great chippy, you beat me to it.
Parabéns,pelo vídeo!!! Obrigado.👍🤝👊👊🇧🇷🇧🇷
Ha that's not a bore (think Croc Dundee) more a ripple, now the Severn Bore, that's a bore. You can surf it and people do for miles.
What does the bore look like from a drone perspective?
Not seen it here but seen drone footage from similar over in Truro Nova Scotia
this is mild compared to where i live in southwest, severn bore can be 3 mtr high. you need to visit to see
It’s on the list really want to see it thanks 👍
Nice, check out the Bay of Fundy though
Thank you I’ll look it up!
@@pauljones401 Up to 15=20 metre tides
Have you been to see the tidal bore on the river Severn, that's a very impressive bore which is surfable
It’s on the list!
@@pauljones401 it's big
great filming and audio,
You got better eyes than me. At 3:34 I think I saw it at the 12 o'clock position, but it could have been a dog as far as I could tell. Couldn't watch anymore after that.
No worries. Most people thought I was going to show a giant pig so fair play!
Why does this happen,does the moon control the tides or maybe the planet tilts or something ?
Yes to the moon thing that still I struggle to understand. But it’s probably about 20-30 tides a year this happens and not been funny but obviously a lot happens at night so they are not seen
Come to Alaska. We will show you real men’s bore tides…
Those would be something to see.
Hi Paul, we'd love to upload this video onto our Facebook page to show people the area.
Would this be an issue for you? We would happily credit and link back to your TH-cam channel within the caption and comments of the video.
Many thanks,
Alex
Good Life Lake District Cottages Yep sure as it’s an amazing phenomenon and does happen fairly regularly over the year. Just credit my channel and no problem. All the best Paul. If not keep subscribed as I will be featuring the Lake District much more in next year. All the best Paul
@@pauljones401 Thanks, Paul! We will do. We'll keep an eye out for any Lake District stuff. Best wishes from us!
Good Life Lake District Cottages I’ve subscribed as I’m not a Facebook person but will try and think on to send relevant stuff to you. Always for supporting small businesses and yours sounds great and in these difficult times we need to help each other. I work for John Lewis but it’s been great this week to help out in Waitrose with some of our more vulnerable customers but giving them the time of day and someone to talk to. It’s about having something to look forward to and the same with what you do for people. Really hope you get through this, sometimes you can read a few words from people and think yep they sound a good egg! So over this year I’m coming your way and wish you all the best in the meantime. Paul
Great video Paul. Seen a couple of these but none in HD and with quite that bore. Cheers.
Dave Hyde Thank you very much. It was really exciting too!!
Is the power of this water used to generate electricity?
Jan Maria Blackwell Not yet as only happens around 20 odd times. It’s not a normal day I filmed. Really good if they could but not consistent at all
There was a plan in the 1960's to build the Morecambe Bay Barrage, but it died the death, partly on cost but mainly because the result would have been an environmental disaster both sides of the barrage, with the estuary silting up and flooding large tracts of land - I forget how far inland would have become a wasteland. The seaward side would have suffered too. Then there is the geology - the river channel is a glacial outwash and the bedrock would have required massive injections of grout to stabilise it. In the end the estimated cost was deemed to high a price.
1 where is the description?
2 where is the tidal bore?
That’s odd it’s all below the film. Cumbria England is where it is. Great place
It’s odd that while most of the bore is still flowing in, there’s a conflicting current right along the shore that’s going in the opposite direction.
I’m just watching a lock flooding right now on a canal and it’s doing the same. It’s a very wild effect when the bore gets going
You see the current and counter current at river banks, due to the unevenness of the sides of the channel and the bottom of the shore, canal or river bed.
@@Volcano-Man That is an amazing insight. Thank you
@@pauljones401 You are most welcome.
@@pauljones401 Paul out of curiosity, and because people want to know, do you know what the times of high and low water were on 5th February 2004. Also what height the tides were above Chart Datum. Thanks. PS been trying to find it from Google but keep getting this years!
Oh I was here for the giant pig
Is this the same bay as the cocklepickers were killed in? Is the incoming tide always as fast or is this only every now and then? And were the cocklepickers killed in this occasional fast tide
Steve Coates it is the same place. What we witnessed happened once a month thereabouts near shore. Out in the estuary this would be way more common to see this behaviour of water. The gangmasters overseeing that particular group if they had known of tidal conditions were frankly sending people to their deaths. Horrible. But I want to show the positives in this film of the area and this amazing occurrence. P
@@pauljones401 Thankyou for your reply. It is a phenomenon of nature. Water in its untamed form has always fascinated me.
Steve Coates I know the place now has that tragedy on its back but it is breathtaking to see when done safely. All the best and I hope you get the chance to see it at some point. P
@@pauljones401 Thankyou. I hope so too. Maybe a family holiday.
A “pretty good bore” is preferable to a “crashing bore.”
A very close cousin of a tsunami.
Nope! If anything a tidal bore is the real live beloved of the media 'Tidal Wave!' And just like high and low tides owes it's formation to that big bright yellow thing, along with that big white light that live in the sky! Yes the Sun and Moon, or more correctly - the alignment of the Sun, Moon and Earth.
When the Sun Earth and Moon align in a near straight line - called SYZYG (pronounced Sizzeegee!') The Earth has Spring tides - the greatest vertical distance between low water and high water; but when the Moon - Earth - Sun form a right angle the Earth has 'Neap tides' - minimum vertical distance between low tide and high tide. A tidal bore is the fore runner of an incoming or rising tide, and is a genuine 100% tidal wave!
A tsunami is triggered by earthquakes - such as that of 26th December 2004; and involves a massive volume of water, travels trans-oceanic distances at a velocity of about 200 metres per second, and each pulse of a tsunami train contains incredible levels of energy. They dissipate their energy according to the inverse square root theorem - which states that energy halves at double the distance. They are not caused by the influence of the Moon etc; but a tsunami can reach a distant shore and coincide with high tide.
Other causes of tsunami's - big things dropping out of the sky like meteorites, and flank collapse of volcanic structures - those though tend to dissipate rapidly due to various other factors.
Oh and yes I think I know what I am talking about - Bsc, PhD in geology and vulcanology, with a very keen interest in oceanography.
Wow, some of those ripples must be at least 2" high lol
You’re telling me! I’d brought along a really good stills photographer with stories of 5 foot high waves. Didn’t happen! It was embarrassing! But then it kicked on and amazing. If you get chance it’s quite something
@@pauljones401 i love close to the Severn, not sure its worth the trip :p
@@TheWelshTramper If you’ve got the Severn then no. It’s a different sort of bore. Notice your a maiden fan? Saw them first time 4 years ago. Just something else and only knew about 2 songs!
Where is that place. You don't say.
North west England county of Cumbria
@@pauljones401 Thanks, I found it.
Chinese cockel pickers documentary brought me here
I find this phenomenon quite frightening as I’m not good with water. For it to be at night out there I cannot imagine
Why travel so far..... if your not local?
It’s a spectacular event I remember from childhood holidays
2019 must point out as I’m not one for breaking travel rules!
@@pauljones401 Severn bores fab. Have u seen that? I did in 2016.
@@brightbox9414 It’s on the list. I’ve even checked places to watch it! It been filmed a lot but with me I get excited so I guess me gassing over the top might make it a little more different!
Amazing but very dangerous at the same time you have to treat nature with respect all the time
Oliver Sinden It really did terrify me in the 70’s as it used to come right up to the shore of Grange over sands with air raid sirens going off. Incredible sight. Thank you for commenting and if you get the chance it’s an amazing sight.
@@pauljones401 ive seen it come in over from grange over sands into morecambe bay within 20 minutes the tide was fully in very dangerous and unpredictable mate
Oliver Sinden It scares me frankly!
@@pauljones401 ha ha speak soon pal will be looking for more of your videos on TH-cam see you later take it easy
I don’t see kayakers or nuthin.)
There were 5 but they all fell off about 2 minutes before I started filming!
morecambe reminds me of 39 chinese ppl who died cockle picking
aditi hazarika You see how dangerous it is and how bad those people were sent out there. They had no chance
@@pauljones401 i agree!it was heartbreaking ...
Well, 23 Chinese died in 2004. Since then China change a lot...... This time 39 people died in Truck most likely Vietnamese.
used to play here as a kid,but local knowledge is inbuilt, moral is go pick cockles in your own back yard
Incredibly sad. Imagine trying to get help in pitch black dark and not knowing the language. Those poor souls
would be great to get your fishing rod out deffo
A lot did. But once it stopped moving as no idea what was in it!
I used to catch huge Crabs with my father around the legs of that Viaduct and we'd eat them later for lunch.
spex357 Used to watch this Tide in the 70’s and terrifying!! Great to get you back some memories as I’m the same. Thanks for watching. Paul
what is the scientific explanation ?
The bay is like a bowl with obviously the ocean side having to build up against that lip. Once it reaches it it then rolls over the outgoing river. It has lost some of its initial speed due to the river out widening but that is changing again. In the 1970’s when I first saw it it was in a channel no more than 100m wide. And that was terrifying with warning air raid sirens to boot! Thank you for watching
I was at school in Arnside in the 60s. The school boarding houses were on the sea front near the pier you were standing on. As you say, the river channel was much narrower than it is today so the bore was a more regular sight. I remember the warning siren and can also remember seeing steam trains crossing the viaduct. To see them at night with sparks shooting up from the engine chimney was indeed a sight to behold.
During my time at school there I must have seen seven or eight cars, parked on the beach near the slipway by unwary owners, caught and swallowed by the bore. For a ten or eleven year old that was really exciting.
Great video. Brought back some happy memories. Thanks for posting.
@@csk7672 some great stories there. I thought about that car park on that day but they’d shut it. Supposedly now the river is slowly moving back towards grange again as that was where I mainly saw it.
I don't think this comes across well on video. It doesn't look very powerful, although it seems to be when you are there.
Yep it’s what’s behind the initial wave that is the dangerous part.
clammers, take note............tsunami ish everyday
The tide here reminds me of my Third Wifes temper rising when I lied to her over and over.
Well that was an anti climax
From 6 minutes if you’re looking for the water suddenly rushing