history of the entire world, i guess (MUSLIM REACTION)
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To answer your question about spices (sugar and salt, also spices) it is not about taste (as british cuisine is the proof...) But about conservation of food. For any country that doesn't have year-round fresh produce, spices are essential to not starve in winter
Also spices were used as medicine.
Buddy, amazing scientific discoveries existed before the Islam too, greeks discovered that we came from ocean. Just don't want you to have any misconception.
You don't understand something so you reject it. Got it.
Muslims 😂😂😂
@@siaotak4657 you?
The problem with 'intelligent designer' assumption is the same as with it's opposite, we simply don't know for sure, we're just assuming sh*t.
Show Me The 'Problem' With That There Is Only One True Intelligent Designer
@@Muhammad_Abdullah_Arshad One sentence "Starting out with that assumption".
@@lakshaykochhar6799 How Is That a 'Assumption'
@@Muhammad_Abdullah_Arshad Because you starting with an assumption that God is real, without scientific way to confirm God's existence.
That's like me telling you that I have a cousin named "Vinny" but in this scenario, you assume that I'm dead and you didn't know me, you have only my word to go off and clues surrounding me to make assumptions or deductions with no actual way to neither confirm or deny my cousin's existence.
@@lakshaykochhar6799 Ok, Tell Me Your Meaning Of a 'Scientific Way' So I Can Use The Scientific Way To Confirm God's Existence.
Regarding the question about how did protons know how to form, have you ever did something without realizing you did it? Every action doesn’t need intent, something’s can just happen. The questions that you pose as things scientific theories can’t answer are questions those theories were never meant to answer. The Big Bang theory is based off the observation that our universe is expanding and the thought that if it’s getting bigger there must have been a time it was smaller. The theory of evolution by natural selection is from our observation that organisms change over time. Science in general attempts to explain how the universe functions and not why things are the way they are. Personally, I find the intelligent design concept to be a lack of imagination to consider that processes can just happen without any forethought.
When it comes to religion, I’ll say as someone raised Christian and now considers themselves atheist, my biggest problem with any religion is that humans are involved. All of the religions are passed down either through word of mouth or religious texts all coming from others humans. I have no problems with people practicing or believing in religion if they want but I firmly believe that no religion should have say in creating laws to govern everyone.
As far as I can tell what you described as an Islamic economic system is just another form of capitalism. What you described as capitalism is just the form of capitalism in the US. Capitalism is just an economic system where the means of production are owned by private entities. I’ll agree that communism is likely not to work, but I think that’s because power is too decentralized leading to the likelihood of authoritarianism taking over.
1. processes can just happen without any forethought - we're not talking about processes but intelligent DNA samples. Basically what you're claiming is that with enough time (infinity) I can throw a typewriter from stairs and as it falls on the keypads it will type the entire book Harry Potter. The mathematical probability is close to 0. Not impossible but any rational person knows that you don't get intelligent design or process without intelligence. This really is it. You can add any amount of time to the equation - that doesn't change anything. Same with universe.
2. Your view is typical for someone who doesn't or haven't heard about Quran and Islam and is a modern atheist. I was there don't worry. Also I'm a former Christian so I know Bible has been changed. But the Quran hasn't and we can prove it. Also, use logic. Laws are just extensions of how should humans behave. If religion has an effect on our behavior then obviously laws will be affected by it. Actually, all laws in pre-modern times were based on religion. Secularism is a fairly new concept.
3. Islam prohibits interest. Do you know how capitalism works? Do you know it literally runs on interest? Also, Islam has a compulsory wealth tax which can't be avoided, and a compulsory charity tax. So again study more because you're talking about things without any knowledge of them.
@@jantheslovakmuslim
1. Using your analogy of Harry Potter, what I’m saying is that the entire book Harry Potter was made, science is the process of figuring out how the entire book Harry Potter was made. Throwing a typewriter around could possibly result in Harry Potter being written and I agree that’s highly unlikely but that’s would be just one hypothesis of how it was done. We’d have to observe other examples of books being made to figure out the most likely explanation of the process of how books are made. Fine details maybe off but it’s more likely we’re close to an explanation. I guess what trying to figure out is why does there have to be intent behind what DNA does?
2. Objectively speaking, it’s not really relevant whether a book has changed or not. At the end of the day, people are the very root of all religions. Honestly, I have a hard time believing that anybody was ever divinely inspired. These authors could be divinely inspired but there are other options: misunderstood situations; bad food or water; or diseases that affect the mind. I hope this doesn’t come off as offensive but, objectively, all those and more are just as possible as divine inspiration for the 1st people that wrote any holy text. I don’t just automatically trust anybody’s word, especially when I haven’t and can’t physically contact them and verify that person’s authenticity.
3. Again, that’s just how countries have set up their capitalist systems. Your definition of capitalism seems to be heavily based on capitalism in the US. When I say capitalism, I mean an economic system where trades and industry are privately owned. From my understanding, the Islamic system you mentioned is just a capitalist system set up without interest.
@@silentj2k9ross3 ok so if you just want to stick to your limited worldview that's fine. I just explained to you that I used to think like you a few years ago. Exact same ideas. And to be honest it's all nonsense. But it's up to you and your intention. Are you willing to actually read the Bible or the Quran? Are you willing to throw behind your assumptions which might not even be true? Because most atheists are so proudful (as I was) that they are simply blind toward their own bias so there's no discussion with them.
@@jantheslovakmuslim I don’t think you meant it like this but your response is a bit dismissive. All I asked for is a reason to trust the original authors of any religious text. Why is it closed minded to say I’d like some validation of trustworthiness before I believe? Is that really so unreasonable, especially considering the potential seriousness of the topic? I can read the Bible or Quran but I’m not sure that will give me a reason to trust their authors. If I ignore skepticism, what would stop me from believing in Scientology, Greek mythology, conspiracies, or really any random idea presented to me. There has to be a standard to gauge what’s closest to reality and that standard has to be applied equally to all ideas or that standard becomes useless.
Also for clarity, when I say “trust” I’m not saying that I believe they were purposely trying to mislead people. For all we know, the authors could have meant for their work to be taken as a piece of fiction. Again, not tying to offend anyone but that’s not out of the realm of possibility.
@@silentj2k9ross3As a Christian when it comes to Christianity, I can attest that I have had my doubts and I try to find the answers to the doubts. I find that your questions about “I need reasons to believe” are valid. While researching the bases of Christianity, it is the resurrection of Jesus Christ. Christ’s resurrection was witnessed by many people as it is written in the Bible. You said before that you don’t trust the Bible but, it has been deemed historically accurate by archeological finds and also by written manuscripts from outside sources, such as Josephus who wrote about Jesus Christ who was crucified and depicting he had followers(The Disciples) and also Tacitus who was a senator of Rome who wrote that Jesus Christ was crucified under pontius pilate and also wrote about early Christians being persecuted under Nero.
Thank you for uploading your reaction, talking about your past, and sharing your beliefs.
You say at 14:00 that you're not here to debate this, but I think bringing your muslim teachings to it is definitely the main point of this video.
I am happy that after your atheist days, which didn't provide the answers you seeked, you found a religion that gives you the guidance you wanted and maybe needed.
I also love these very respectful comments! ❤
while i disagree on the topic "that there must be a designer".i respect your belief and wish you nothing but the best
His question is why do atoms get attracted together and the other rules of physics, there is no real explaination
there must be a designer is such a contradiction.
Who design the designer
which they say, the designer has no designer
Of course wish him the best, but there is literally no reason to respect his beliefs.
@@truthboom Everyone Knows That There Must Be Only One True ORIGINATOR Of Everything, Which Is Allah SWT (The God) As Allah SWT (The God) Is Above His Power, But His Power Is Above Everything, So His Power Can Do Anything Even Impossible Things Like Creating a Square Circle Or Creating a Married Bachelor Or Creating a Four Sided Triangle, But His Power Cannot Create Another God That Is More Powerful Then Him Or Create a Heavy Rock That He Cannot Lift Or Make Allah SWT (The God) Into Un-God Or Make Him a Human Or Kill Him, As Allah's (The God's) SWT Power Is Not Above Him, But His Power Is Still Above Everything, So His Power Can Do Anything Even Impossible Things, As His Power Created The Universe From Nothingness, Which Is a Impossible Thing To Do, So His Power Can Do Impossible Things, But His Power Cannot Make Something More Powerful Then Him, As He Is Above His Power, So The Answer Is That His Power Can Do Anything Even Impossible Things, But His Power Cannot Make Him Weak, As Allah's Power Is Not Above Him.
Nothingness Means There Would Be No Space, Time, Matter, or Energy Or Possibilities Of Anything Happening Or Laws of Physics. In Such a State, It's Impossible for the Complex Universe, With Its Intricate Laws, to Have Spontaneously Arise from Nothingness BY ITSELF. This Leads Us and Science to the Undeniable Conclusion That the Universe Must Have Been Created by a Creator WHO IS NOT BOUND BY THE LAW THAT STATES THAT EVERYTHING WITH A BEGINNING NEEDS A CAUSE, So There MUST BE Only One True Creator, So Bow Before The Supreme Creator, Allah SWT, For He Stands As The Eternal ORIGINATOR Of All That Exists. Allah SWT Has Forever Been And Shall Forever Be, With Neither a Beginning Nor An End. For Allah SWT There Is No Such Thing As Past, Present, Or Future.
@@GunUDwnAt2ndultimately, respecting someone’s beliefs only means that you acknowledge them as something that exists that you don’t personally believe but is an okay thing for others to believe, it’s not that deep.
5:00 you are right. there are many questions we cannot answer right now. just as there were long ago which we can now. the problem with reverting to religion is saying "we don't know the answer to this...therefore it must be this". that is nonsensical. when scientists don't know, they simply leave it at "we don't know". they don't then insert some philosophy just for the sake of having an answer. people revert to religion because they would rather have a made up answer than no answer at all. This is also called the god of the gaps where people insert god or other religious beings anywhere science has yet to uncover which I see a lot of in this video. Also, scientific theories (the name is misleading because they're not theories in the traditional definition of the word) cannot be called theories without immense peer reviewed evidence to back them up. the chemical soup "theory" is accepted because as we study geology and other sciences traces of these elements are found in recovered space rocks and are also found in the bottom of our oceans and on samples from mars.
so your religion is "science of the gaps" - simple as that.
@@jantheslovakmuslim there is no such thing as the science of the gaps. science sees a mystery then follows the evidence to get the answer. religion is the other way around. they drive at an answer, then work backwards using the things science has yet to answer and cherry picked physical evidence as proof.
India by the way is the only non Muslim country with 2nd largest Muslim population in the world
Plus 2 new countries where Buddhism and Hinduism once flourished.
So that's the sum total of 800 years of Islamic Rule
Are u proud of m u s...living in india??
@@Fernandez.54 Yes
@@jostnamane3951 Buddhists vs muslims in srilanka and Myanmar Jews vs muslims in isreal Christains vs muslims in Europe,Middle East,Africa..Hindus vs muslims in India Yajidis vs muslims in Iraq
@@jostnamane3951 u r muslim
Intelligent design, oh god HAHA
What
I’m going to make the rabbit eat its own feces to get nutrition, it’s the only intelligent way!
Let’s give the whales hipbones too, just for fun though if I’m intending them to live in the ocean than it’d be ignorant to give them pelvic joints for legs.
Excatly. Let's intelligently create multiple religions so we're all at eachothers throats, with islam taking this quite literally.
@@bazmc1153Free choice?
I have found all the different views on this interesting.
I did want to note that the reason that many scientific thoughts are called theories for a reason.
We weren't alive in ancient times many things we speak of us based on the written words of other people and we just have to believe that others believe weren't biased in how they documented there histories.
There was preaching among educating. I will say I didn't know much about Muslim beliefs.
My Major problem with Islam is the descrimination against women it's unbelievable that we live in the 2023 and not all humans have the same freedom and rights
also I don't think I would read what a 50 + age guy that married a 9 year old wrote 💀
The Prophet Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him) Cannot Read Or Write, And In The Time Of The Prophet Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him), Children Matured At An Early Age, Especially In The DESERT Environment. Aisha, Displayed Exceptional Qualities And Maturity Beyond Her Years. The Prophet Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him) Prevented The Practice Of Killing Daughters When Some Did Not Have Sons. He Also Granted Women The Rights To Own Property, Inherit, Divorce, And Receive An Education. He Emphasized The Importance Of Treating Women With Kindness And Respect.
Regarding Allegations Of Misconduct, Including The Alleged Rape Of Aisha, These Claims Lack Credible Evidence And Are Often Made By Individuals Who Either Misunderstand Or Harbor Animosity Towards The Prophet Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him). Marriage Does Not Imply Or Condone Rape, And It Is Illogical To Assume That The Prophet Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him) Would Advocate For Women's Rights, Including Divorce, If His Intentions Were To Harm Women.
It Is Essential For You To Remember That Aisha's Parents Willingly Allowed The Marriage To Take Place, And Aisha Herself Played a Significant Role In Early Islamic History. She Served As a Teacher And Made Valuable Contributions To The Spread Of The Prophet Muhammad's (Peace Be Upon Him) Message, a Role That Continued For 44 Years After His Passing.
You must hate Christianity then too
I want to point out that the statement you just made is an 'OUGHT' statement, which means it is a normative statement. I am not here to defend or justify any supposed discrimination against women in Islam that you may have heard of. It could be due to your lack of understanding about Islam or simply a projection of your preconceived notions. However, you cannot make normative statements against religion using a naturalistic framework, because there's only "what is" on a purely naturalistic framework. I suggest you look up David Hume's 'IS-OUGHT' problem to understand this better. As for the legal age of marriage in the early Islamic period, it was a norm at that time. Again how can you criticize that using a naturalistic framework?
@@jostnamane3951 it doesn't mean everything that was considered normal at old times is good many things they did back to the medieval ages were considered normal back then ..but we realized they weren't good and changed them today
@@CaptainTex34 Yep so you just proved our point. It was normal AT THE TIME, and actually preserved the fertility rates at the time. It isn't a requirement now because there are now 8 billion humans, but back when we were still in the millions, it was 100% a need.
We have a book in islamic history called Al-Bidaya wa'l-Nihaya
Book by Ibn Kathir
It goes from the start of creation until the writer time which is in the 7-8th century by Islamic history
I’ve watched a lot of people react to this video as I find it fascinating to hear their opinions. So please don’t think you’re “boring”. Your views are really valuable to me even if I don’t have your faith. I think more people should listen to what other folk believe. After all, this is our first planet so we’re still trying to figure it out.
Pretty sure Jan isn't a fan of spicy foods 😂
True :)
@@jantheslovakmuslim"From the river to the sea Izrael will be free."
Hamas are worse
monster beast.
Fatah for creation of Palestine Stane without war is now better.
The words “Palestine” or “Filastin” do not appear in the Koran. “Palestine” is also not mentioned in the Old or New Testament. It does occur at least eight times in eight verses of the Hebrew concordance of the King James Bible.
Though the definite origins of the word “Palestine” have been debated for years and are still not known for sure, the name is believed to be derived from the Egyptian and Hebrew word peleshet, which appears in the Tanakh no fewer than 250 times. Roughly translated to mean rolling or migratory, the term was used to describe the inhabitants of the land to the northeast of Egypt - the Philistines. The Philistines were an Aegean people - more closely related to the Greeks and with no connection ethnically, linguistically, or historically with Arabia - who conquered the Mediterranean coastal plain that is now Israel and Gaza in the 12th Century BCE.
Before the Israelite conquest, the Egyptians called what is now Israel, Syria, and Lebanon Retenu. The term Canaan appeared in the fifteenth century BCE and was subsequently referred to as Eretz Bnei Yisrael,” the “Land of the Children of Israel” (Joshua 11:22) or Eretz Yisrael (I Samuel 13:19) after the Jewish return from Egypt. The name “Israel” was first used in the tenth century BCE to refer to the northern Jewish kingdom following the division of Solomon’s kingdom.
Ok, so, I’m a 45 yo male from New Zealand (where any religion is free to congregate) and was raised/indoctrinated as a seventh day Christian and read (all the cherry picked verses of) the KJV bible. I’m not going to go in depth as to to why, because so many reason why, but I’ve been atheist since the age of 16, when logic and critical thinking kicked in. So while I don’t agree with your ideology, I respect you as a fellow human being.
cool. Logic and thinking will lead you to Islam bro. I was an atheist for 12 years and it's a contradictory belief system. Doesn't make any sense.
@@jantheslovakmuslim how tf would logic and thinking will lead you to Islam
It is ridiculous to listen to a Muslim who thinks that at least some truth is described in his favorite book.
I'm glad you watched the video then :)
Hindus beleive in one god "parbrahm" All the gods and goddesses in hinduism r nothing but different powers of that ONE true God 🕉
Cool to see your reaction ive watch this many times by people of many different religions im might not agree but i respect your religion im a live an let live person enjoy your day an have a blessed day
A matter of survival: spices preserved food during winter.
thx I learned sth :)
Don't you mean summer?
@@clovebeans713 Both, actually. Summer because food spoils quickly in the heat, and winter because food isn't as easy to get, so you have to make what you have last through the entire season.
You Could Make a Religion Out of This
While I disagree with the whole intelligent design thing, I also agree that science has not yet proven anything as far as the big bang is concerned. I find evolution to make perfect sense, as you see it all the time in the insect and bacterial level.
I'm totally fine with people having other ways to explain everything as well, like Islam. I never mind hearing different perspectives and learned a lot, just from your reaction on how you view it. It's a bit sad that so many religions are so similar, yet people will die arguing over it.
I would say I'll always be atheist, but really I just am more interested in people than believing in anything. What a lot of Science people fail to acknowledge as there is still faith involved in some off the shakier theories, yet you cannot deny science itself has dramatically improved the majority of the world's life.
If it is in humanity's nature to worship, then I think it would be beneficial for everyone to read the religious text of multiple religions themselves. I appreciate your level-headedness throughout this video and didn't see any critiques as a personal attack.
To be honest, as someone raised catholic, I noticed from a young age that Christianity didn't make sense to me. It went through so many revisions, written by too many hands, and just seemed a bit odd that god is nowhere to be found after trying to do his best PG Zeus impressions ;)
Thx for a nice comment. Yeah I was atheist for 12 years and raised catholic as well so if you're not afraid to change look at the basics of Islam :)
No one disagrees with the importance of Science :D
In fact thats the whole wisdom of the first word of quraan revealed to Mohammad peace be upon him being "read"
That might be just me but i dont think science and religion are at opposite sides, they actually go hand in hand together, thats how the islamic golden age florished, people seeing the ink of a scholar as sacred as the blood of a martyr
We have to remember that we are limited, there are things that we could never explaine, answers we could never reach, thats why i believe the religion and Science go together, since science is limited, religion can answer the questions that the Science cant in this day and age
I can see how would evolution make sense for alot people but its still a theory with many holes and makes more questions than it gives answers... i have to admit im still learning about it but ill never see myself believing in it (inshallah) because the idea that something so complex like an insect or a cell came to be just by chance isnt getting into my head
Whats the chance that group of chemical waste came together to form a cell that can have the behaviour to reproduce itself?
How many times did these chemicals have to combine to successfully "create" this cell? Whtas the chance that these chemicals were successful for multiple times? How did this cell learn to reproduce? Whats the chance that this contineued to happen over and over and over throughout the history of earth?
Why is this unique to earth? Why do we live in a great silence? If this evolution happened on earth and continued successfully to happen on most earth species then its only natural that it happened millions of times up in the universe so why are we still alone? Isnt there galaxys thats are older than us?
These are questions i had that the evolution theory couldnt answer but im still researching tho so idk... The more i dive into it the more questions i have, the last questions might be too early for the science to answer them because we are still babies in space research field but well, thats a prime example of my previous rant about Science and religion going hand in hand
Yeah I disagree with the whole argument . However even if I grant them the argument that you need a designer it doesn't prove at all that it's a particular god of any specific religion like Allah, YHWH, Chronos, etc. For all we know this universe could be one of a million simulations by an alien from another universe doing their 10th grade science fair project maybe trying to see how different laws of physics create different universes or something. You might say "well, who created the alien?" and to that I say "well, who created god?" and if you then say "well, god has always existed" and to that I say "what if the universe has always existed?".
@@SubtleHawk Yeah, I think that's why most people don't want to think about it too much. Big Bang, simulation, "clock-starter" hands off god, or one of the religions of the world; you basically just subscribe to what works for your outlook. If you use the scientific method, you might just stop at big bang. If you find merit in the simulation theory, you stop there. If you think god started it all, you stop there.
An individual can't claim to know the answers of before creation. Religion will say god is the only one that really knows. Simulation theorist will say only the people that started it all know. The scientific community will say no one knows yet, and we may never know.
People do have wild and creative ideas though, and I find that fun. I had a Christian freind that told me:
Him: Well, I think god started the big bang when he was playing pool and broke the fish tank he had of all his ideas.
Me: You think god invented pool, made a mistake, and broke a fish tank that contained the known universe?
Him: maybe not, but can you prove that isn't what happened?
Me: I think all I can prove is that you've been drinking too much.
Always found it amusing ever since.
@@SubtleHawk infinite regress fallacy. You can't have a set of contingent things go on forever in the past. God didn't begin to exist so he doesn't have "beginning" therefore nothing was before him or after him. Nobody created God. He always was.
There are actually animals with conciseness, if you look up the mirror test there are select species that pass the test. Please its important to not spread misinfo, if you don't know the answer to a question its okay to say you don't know!
You mean chimpanzees, orangutans, and humans? That's it :) And that's self-recognition, not consciousness.
2:36 The argument of intelligent design is not necessarily the only way the laws of nature were created there are soo many other possibilities I dont understand why some religous exclusivist people are soo close-minded they cant think out of the box when it comes to science.
How can you get inteligencie from non-intelligence?
@@jantheslovakmuslim ok but still how do you know that the argument from intelligent design leads to the deity you believe in do you have any evidence or method that leads us to the ultimate truth which is your deity allah.
@@jantheslovakmuslim well we simply dont know if there even was or is non-inteligence mybe their is a force that created inteligence or mybe the universe is eternal or mybe we are living in a simulation mybe we will never know or will find out someday through science which is the best availible method.
@@DomainofKnowlegdia lol
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Peace Akhi, Neanderthals were most likely also conscious human beings, this is amongst others confirmed in the burials and burial decorations found at Neanderthal grave sites. I've noticed some Catholics make this point about apes not having the same capabilities as humans, too, however the point from an evolutionary standpoint is that the reason we are not chimpanzee is exactly because our species branched off that line in a common ancestor, so it is not an exact correlation.
And in terms of "Adam" being considered the first man, this is a newer conception for Islam. In the Qur'an, in fact, 38:69-85 or 38:12-48 for example, "Adam" is specifically avoided, because much like in the the Hebrew language and in the Torah, Adam means "man" more generally, and an analogical reading of this word has been suggested both in Midrash and Tafsir. as such, there is nothing that per se discourages the idea of evolution leading to human beings, after all if God is the Creator, then evolution could well and easily be part of said Creation.
“O you who have believed, if there comes to you a disobedient one with information, investigate, lest you harm a people out of ignorance and become, over what you have done, regretful.” Al Hujurat: 6: We could argue however, and this is in fact critical to the scientific tradition itself, that we must not take scientific theories as eternally true, rather, it is not something to "Believe" in, in that sense, because science by nature must be open to new suggestions and change. As such, while evolution seems possible, and while the research in it certainly provides continual interesting results, it may not be critically relevant to what we might consider the core of faith. This (I would argue, at least) is about something much deeper than just how we came about in itself.
This is my favorite TH-cam channel and I'm waiting for your new videos. Allah bless you. always remember you have many brothers
thx
@@jantheslovakmuslim Randomly landed on your video and the little bit I saw you seemed a logical person so leaving you few suggestions hope you will like them. You can search a guy named Sadguru Jaggi Vasudev and watch his videos and secong you can watch Om Namah Shivay from Krishna Das.
It's funny they can present capatalism, communist, liberalism etc
But they mad if we present Islamic Caliph system
we don’t care
"But no one knows who wrote those texts, that's the problem with Hinduism." As opposed to? What? You think you know who wrote the texts you follow?
"Everybody used to believe in something." For every supernatural claim that has ever existed, there has been someone to say, nah.
"Islam is the only one that spread like this." Did you not pay attention to the video? Look at how the empires spread and fell over and over in the same areas. Yes, you're talking about specifically your religion, but it's not so different from the rise and fall of every other thing on the planet.
"They pay a special tax." lmao
"I never got that people would be traveling because of spices and perfumes." Okay, this one is actually an excellent question that we wouldn't think about as much today. During the times before refridgeration and indoor plumbing, meat would go bad and people didn't bathe very often. The spices were to cover up the taste of meats that were starting to sour but still decent enough to eat, while the perfumes were to cover up the rank smell of humanity when we hadn't bathed in over a week or even months. Their uses have spread further as technology advanced but at the point in time talked about in the video, that's why everyone wanted them. Making foods taste good has been one of the major drives of human history.
Columbus was a pos, yes.
I'm actually interested in the split factions within Islam. I know a lot about the many, many, many varied forms of Christianity, but don't hear much about different forms of Islam.
I've been enjoying watching reactions to this video, but this is the most frustrating one I've watched yet. But, I'm glad I watched it. What I've written above is just my own reactions to your reaction.
Well your comment is also frustrating. Just look up what I said I don't have time to convince you over a TH-cam comment. Yes, the Quran is preserved and we do know how it was written and that it wasn't changed. Islamic split is political. Not theological in nature like in Christianity where Christians don't even know if God has a son or if he's fully God or not at all. We don't have these issues. I think you lack a basic understanding of Islam which I don't blame you for since I also was an ignorant atheist who believed in "science" as know it an arrogant individual. So I already had all the thoughts that you can think since I went from Christian to Atheist to Muslim in a span of 30 years.
@@jantheslovakmuslim I've been an atheist since I was 4 years old and I've remained so for 35 years, I reasoned myself out of what I was being taught. I don't believe in anything supernatural, and yes I see all gods as supernatural beings. I know more about Christianity than Islam simply because it's more prominent in my part of the world and I've studied to make sure I can counter any arguments for it that have been thrown at me. I would have to say that the vast majority of Christians do believe Jesus was the son of their god, although it didn't start out that way. Do you know how many Christians have argued with me that their book has remained unchanged since its inception? Even if I give them 50 different examples of how its changed, they still believe that line, it's engrained in their religion just as much as yours. And every other religion that has ever existed.
There are other ways to explain your line that "humans are programmed to worship" than that there is a god of any kind. There is this thing in human psychology called pareidolia, part of which is our ability to see human faces, forms and behaviors in the world around us, where they don't exist. Early humans had some ritualistic behaviors similar to ones we see in many animals today. Look up elephants holding rituals under the full moon, I always find that one interesting. Birds performing funerals, chimps recognizing each other from different groups via a hand clasp, ect. Humans began worhshipping nature, which became gods based on those aspects of nature (likely) due to pareidolia, which then merged with other gods from other societies as they merged through migration and trade. Even the Abrahamic god was once part of a pantheon before being stripped down to monotheism. I have a whole essay written on this but I doubt it'll fit into a TH-cam comment.
"I already had all the thoughts that you can think," nope, that's not true at all, my above paragraph as an example. We have vastly different experiences. And that's alright, people are different and tackle the world through their own lens. I wouldn't say that atheists are arrogant at all. Well, some of them obviously are, since everyone is different. I personally find it much more arrogant to believe we're the chosen animals of this world which some higher being meant to rule over everything else and that we're the only ones that can be self aware. We need to coexist with everything else, not simply rule over it. Humans are destroying the world and a majority of them believe it doesn't matter because it's all part of their god's plans. Pretty hard to get people to band together to save the planet when they're just waiting for their deity to end it all anyway.
But I digress, glad you responded, I'm always interested in other's opinions even if I disagree with them. Hope you have a great day man.
8:40 "just like that" we're talking about at least 7 millions or more years of evolution seperated in different stages. No animal on earth can evolve "just like that".
I am come in slovakia in feb.I am from india tell me about my idea i am muslim
I love Islam but I I’m Christ
What should I do? 7:42
Humans created the gods, not the other way around. I don't know how an educated person who understands the development of humankind can possibly believe otherwise. It is quite obvious why religions were invented, and it is certainly not because there is a creator. Wake up. You are allowing yourselves to be controlled by people who don't believe any of what they are preaching. It is truly embarrassing that so many of you fall for it.
So what is the development of human kind? Please tell me your fairytale of evolution or big bang.
@@jantheslovakmuslim Fairytale, we know exactly what happened between the first single strand RNA, to simple cells and to modern life. We know what the big bang was and even know where in the universe it happened. None of this is a mystery. Islam and Christianity are both slowly starting to adapt these natural explinations into their ever shrinking pocket of ignorance because they can't deny them anymore. As time goes on there is more and more evidence discovered. It is already undeniable, but some reluctant few still try to.
@@TheMilkMan8008 I didn't say I don't believe in big bang. I said there's no scientific evidence for it. And there is none. Expanding the universe is not evidence. Nobody has seen the big bang so you believe it happened because you trust scientists. But you haven't done the experiments. All you do is have faith in science that's all. So I'm just pointing out that you're also believing in something which you haven't verified. Now your science ends with big bang but the question is how did that big bang start. That's the biggest question of all times. And if you use logic you must come to conclusion that it didn't create itself, it wasn't cyclical or it didn't come from nothing or other universe. So then you're left with the uncaused cause. That's it :)
@@jantheslovakmuslim The expansion of the universe is the weakest evidence we have of the big bang. It is a great piece of supporting evidence, but it isn't even close to all that we have. We have made predictions using the models we have that have been proven in recent years. Some in recent months with the new JWST. I am a scientist. I am a biologist specifically. I understand the scientific method that I use in my career. Even children in primary school understand the scientific method. It is not faith based in the slightest. You can argue that you have to trust scientists as a layman, but I also have to trust the electricians who wired my home, the doctors who gave me medication or who preform surgery. There is always a level of trust needed between experts and laymen. That is not faith though. Anyone can follow the same steps we do and come to those same conclusions independently. We, the scientific community, have verified that there was a rapid expansion of the universe from a singularity. We can even trace back and see where it approximately happened in the universe as I said. You do not have to see something to know it to be true. I don't have to open up my chest to know that there is a heart in there. I don't need to see germs to know they make me ill. You don't need to see most things to verify them. That is how the entire legal system works. Even if you didn't see it directly you can follow the evidence and then prove it.
That last bit is rather confusing. Yes. We don't know what caused the big bang. So what? Just because you don't have the answer to something doesn't mean you can just say it was magic. You mention using logic. I use logic to know that a singularity existed. For how long? Don't know. Maybe it always existed. Maybe it spontaneously appeared. The laws of physics do not apply outside of our universe. We can't poke out heads outside of our universe to see, so who's to say anything? And that leads into why speculation is not science and is meaningless. Maybe it's a simulation right? It is a nonsensical speculative subject because it is unfalsifiable. How do you know it didn't come from another universe? Again we have no way of leaving our own universe to verify that. Why is it not an acceptable answer that it was always there? That is the only answer you can actually think of if you are really using logic. Who says it needed to be created? You call it an uncaused cause. The cause of the universe was a rapid expansion of a singularity. The singularity existed. The cause of the universe was the rapid expansion. That was the cause. If your best argument for a god is saying it just started up the universe and let things play out on their own then you are no better than those speculating we are in a simulation or whatever other asinine conspiracies people throw out. They are not scientific. You can no longer point to one thing and say "god done did it" so you just vaguely throw out "he put everything into motion". Didn't you ask someone else not to lie when they misrepresented Islam? How about you follow that advice. Learn the science before you make incorrect claims about what it says and proves.
@@TheMilkMan8008 You're confusing science, with testimonials, deductive logic etc. If you actually believe that science leads to the truth then I feel sorry for you because you should study the philosophy of science they teach you that science can never lead to the ultimate truth because you can always do more experiments and interpret the same scientific facts in a different way. I mean this has been pretty much established in the philosophy of science so I would really advise you to read some books on this. I'm not trying to even use the scientific method to establish God :) That's impossible since science is not capable of this. But good luck I don't have time to tell you everything in a youtube comment. I had the exact same thoughts as you a few years ago. Just read the introduction to the philosophy of science if you really want to learn something about scientific method
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Ape➡️100.000.000 years➡️human person.
Nice fairytale :)
@@jantheslovakmuslim with all respect but, It could have been said in the same manner of your point of view and analysis right from the start of the science part of the video. But I respect extremely the oposing opinions.😌👍 For me , the important is to let a "verbesserung" of the mankind.👍
@@jantheslovakmuslim Sorry, but someone who believes religious scripture as fact calling evidence based scientific facts 'fairy tales' is hilarious.
@@SpenceJS87 google scientism.
14:12 you dont know what he looked like, and in all fairness he was probably light skinned given he was Jewish.
@@santiagovargas5322 since when are Jews light skinned lol? Originál Jews were dark and Brown. European Jews came in wayyy later.
We literally don't know how far the human history goes? Adam PBUH might have been created a million years ago for all we know.
4:30 I’m a Christian and I agree 4:30
You should look into Muslims possibly finding america first ,I saw a few vids and it’s interesting
The bit about other races being displayed is a bit older than that (last one i know 1850 during the Universal expo with people from oceania), still no excuses... What i would advise you to reflect on is that the arguments you have on conscience between humans and animals are the same as the ones in valladolid debate where the greed of the church lead them to determine that non-whites didn't have a conscience and concequently a soul. Much easier to benefit from the exploitation of creatures of god when you make them placed there by god FOR you
I wana ask why is that we need an intelligent being to make something isn't that limitations of our perspective as humans. Because what if universe was not created in sense that we believe it to be. But it was all random. Think about what if we are only seeing order because that's is our only way to to comprehend the madness that it is.
Randomness doesn't exist. I mean the probabilistic chances of this universe being random are so small that you have a better chance of winning a jackpot in the lottery. If you just use reason and logic you will realize that the universe couldn't come from nothing or something else which is created as well. Or it can't be cyclical since that would be an infinite regress of things which is impossible because we're living at this moment in time and not in infinity. So really there's just one option that there's an uncaused cause or the prime mover which started the chain of events. Otherwise, it goes in circles forever which contradicts the reality of the world. But hey if you don't want to accept this that's cool and you can believe in whatever you want. This is a Muslim perspective.
Cool vid definitely insightful at times. You can see how uncomfortable he is at times though like when Jesus is on the screen and after he talks about the founding of Islam. Likes to give his points but then “I’m not here to debate” cause he wants you to just accept his points. Smart dude but definitely close minded when it comes to religion and world creation! ☺️
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Natural evolution is slow but now we can do it ourselves in no time at all, like wolves to chihuahuas
Hi, so.. I would like to ask u somehitng.. I dont like labels so im not religious nor atheist.. or the versions in between.. :) I just like facts and logic.. soo it makes sense when u say atoms need to have a creator or designer which would be God of course.. but then that would mean God needs to have a creator too right? cause if u say God is eternal and all powerful why cant the universe be that? :) see where my problem is? its okay if everything needs to be created by a designer but then God needs to be too... no? because if not... u could just grant that power to the universe and that its just random.. :) also we dontn have any proof of any living gods we r just or u r actually just assuming... can u at least admit that? :P great reaction btw.. cheers
"You haven't established how the first cell was created."
The difference is religion will never give you that answer. Or any answer really. It's all made up nonsense. Science on the other hand doesn't pretend to have all the answers like the arrogant religious people who think they have it all figured out and are very smug and condescending about it. A scientist will say "I don't know, yet" while a religious person would say "pff please it's obviously a magical wizard that did it with magic, I'm so smart".
Sure. As a former atheist I know exactly how you think. But to he honest it's the most delusional position to have and actually not logical. But good luck with searching for the first anything in science which is limited by nature and it's not a measuring stick to discover truth.
Totally agree, fortunately as the years pass religion is being eradicated. Science will eventually put an end to religion thankfully, although not for a few centuries yet. Also another point, I've watched a few reactions to this and I've never known someone knock other religions as much in such a short time. This was a condensed "history of the world" not " history of religion" no one is interested in your Islam promotion agenda.
@@johnwalker2452 why did you watch it then? 🤣BTW science was greatly supported by Muslims.so how is science the opposite of religion? Even Darwin was religious. You've been indoctrinated in scientism probably.
I watched it as I expected it to be similar to other reactions but it became quickly apparent that it wasn't. Don't disagree that Muslims have had valuable input into science but so has other religions. I was raised Roman Catholic and realised like most as I got older and capable of thinking for myself that It was a fantasy to believe there is a god. I am not deluded and would rather believe science. As I'm sure you are aware a well known atheist comedian concurred, if you destroy all religious material it will never come back, destroy all science records and over time they will all come back. Anyway I have no issue perse with religion as long as its not forced on anyone and is kept to themselves. I won't lie , I didn't watch it all as I couldn't. Your whole intent was to bash other religions, argue the science and promote Islam.
@@johnwalker2452 haha...I know the stupid Ricky Gervais joke. if you destroyed all qurans today it would be back tomorrow.becsuse each letter had been memorized by million of muslims.you really need to put aside your Catholic. background since it's clouding your perspective. Islam is.not like Christianity.
Came hoping for a muslim perspective and found an evolution denier. Mate. Seriously
I don't get your point. Evolution is not part of Islam so what's your point? :)
Mate. Seriously.
@@jantheslovakmuslim My Point is that you're not asking questions. All you did was go "I don't understand therefore designer". A mindset as old as religion itself. "I don't understand therefore god"
@@zeroalpha151 not really....to believe in "random" natural selection is truly something I can't do. That's basically claiming that order or this "evolution" happens without any intelligence although we observe it in nature all the time. Super intelligent specific patterns. Just observe the bees or ants and how they behave. I didn't say that the whole evolution is wrong. Just the idea that the bird became a monkey and then a human to me seems insane. Even if you give it billions of years it can't happen. But if you believe this that's cool.
5:10 To me creationism doesn't make any sense it has so many wholes.
I dont buy any religion its all a joke to me however its great if people do. Aa far as the animal not having consciousness is crazy to me. We dont even understand human brains how could we possibly understand animal brains. Ofc people want to expand they all want control of others.
I liked the video and I respect your opinions. But you say that the creator of the video are biased, but so are you? Everyone is biased to their own opinions
damnn :) i will get on your nerves but honestly I would smoke some sisha with u and debate this as civilized persons.. :) its true that everyone wants to expand their ideas of the world sure.. but when u have Muslim countries where women cant drive cars. :D or own things or be in the same room with man if their husband is not around.. :D thats not good.. would u agree? Im all for equality and all races religions to be free.. but when u have countries like that.. u know who Im talking about... we just cant let it sleep with well thats their culture.. no? all men and women should be free to decide.... and sadly in a lot of Muslim countries women cant decide for themselves cause they were raised that way.. they just don't know better... i lived in Muslim country btw soo I know.. have also many Muslim friends men and women.. they acknowledge it behind closed doors but never in public..
Just quickly:
- so what that women couldn't drive? What does that have to do with Islam? It's not an Islamic policy :)
- I don't believe in free mixing of men/women so I disagree
- even if you have "billion" years you'll never get a human out of a fish. That's a fallacy of time. Most atheist just appeal to "time" as a big factor where it's simply irrelevant. For the big evolution jumps. Never been proven. I believe in inner species evolution of course.
- you'll never discover the first cell. Even in a million years. Stop using this "scietific" mode of thinking and use logic. How can you discover the first cell? Shouldn't it evolve from somewhere? But how if there's not life before? :) It's a paradox.
- the Quran never says anything about sacrificisng people. It actually talks about orbits in the sky as well as our sun's orbit which was unknown to the scietist until the 20th century. Also the expansion of the universe is in the Quran.
- we don't know yet - that's a cop out. We can use deductive logic. Stop again relying on empirical evidence. Use your brain instead and start thinking.
- if God was created than obviously he's contingent and by definition not a God. The thing is if you don't have an all powerful independent entity outside of time/space, you can't even begin the creation. He needs to be eternal and without beginning. Since then you would have to explain his existence. And we can know this because we exist and are contingent. So the creation already happened and it can't go backwards infinitely/multiverse etc. That's impossible. You have to start somewhere since everything that begins to exist has a cause. Allah didn't begin to exist therefore logically he doesn't have a cause. If he did, he wouldn't he Allah.
Good luck.
@@jantheslovakmuslim wait why not believe in free mixing of men women...all humans should be equal and have the same rights
Where did you get that idea from? LoL?@@CaptainTex34
@@jantheslovakmuslim I don't see any reason why women shouldn't be independent and be equal to men..also you didn't explain your reason why you believe the opposite oh let me guess Allah said that... we should follow that blindly not doing our own criticism
haha where is the evidence that women and men are equal in anything? Islam claims that they are the same in a spiritual sense but in atheism, there is no spirit, so where is the equality? Give me one example bro. You made a claim I didn't.@@CaptainTex34
Muslims ruled the Indian subcontinent for 1000 years. Muslims' first military intervention here where they actually stayed and established some government was in 711 AD. The proper Muslim rule that began expanding territory after provocation by Hindu rulers was in 970s AD by rulers like Mahmud Ghaznavi and Muhammad Ghauri. First Sultanette that united and ruled entire India was established in 1126 and an amazing thing is that it was called the slave dynasty because all the rulers were initially Turkish slaves that rose to the status of kings, this was the Delhi Sultanate. Shows u how in Muslim rule at the time, there was no discrimination. From here on, there was ALWAYS a Muslim ruler on the throne of Delhi even though a few dynasties came and went during the time period. The rule formally ended in 1857 with the fall of the great Mughal Empire. But then later Muslims decided it was inevitable to have a separate Muslim state where they could practice and implement their religion as in a majority Hindu state with democracy there always will be non-Muslim rule so they got Pakistan. Most of India today is majority Hindu because Muslim rulers even after such a long rule never imposed or forced religion upon the locals.
Which Madarsachap university ??
No brother muslim rule was only north india
Cholas in south
Ahoms in northeast
Himachal and Uttarakhand by gharwals
And in end Hindus Maratha and sikh and Dogras defeated all
Only some parts were remaining
Expanded due to "provocation"
LMFAOOOOO
Read history
Don't make me laugh 😂😂
Muslim with blue eyes? Hahahahhaha
annnnd another one.. :P sorry... but honestly I watched 50plus videos of this u r the first one to ask questions.. :D and I like that.. u r smart.. i can see that but u said jumping from apes to human is not like that.. weelll it wasn't..:D it took millions of years.. thats what most religious people cant get.. millions of years.. all known evidence points to that... we r evolving right now as we speak but at a slower rate.. we only have abrief life span 70 80 years maybe more eif you r lucky.. of course its hard to imagine we were once just apes.. but evidence points to that... it doesn't mean it was like that.. but it doesn't mean also that God did it.. right? do u have proof of that? no u don't.. neither do scientist,, soo u see u r saying its from that.. scientist say all evidence points to that.. :D big difference..
The words “Palestine” or “Filastin” do not appear in the Koran. “Palestine” is also not mentioned in the Old or New Testament. It does occur at least eight times in eight verses of the Hebrew concordance of the King James Bible.
Though the definite origins of the word “Palestine” have been debated for years and are still not known for sure, the name is believed to be derived from the Egyptian and Hebrew word peleshet, which appears in the Tanakh no fewer than 250 times. Roughly translated to mean rolling or migratory, the term was used to describe the inhabitants of the land to the northeast of Egypt - the Philistines. The Philistines were an Aegean people - more closely related to the Greeks and with no connection ethnically, linguistically, or historically with Arabia - who conquered the Mediterranean coastal plain that is now Israel and Gaza in the 12th Century BCE.
Before the Israelite conquest, the Egyptians called what is now Israel, Syria, and Lebanon Retenu. The term Canaan appeared in the fifteenth century BCE and was subsequently referred to as Eretz Bnei Yisrael,” the “Land of the Children of Israel” (Joshua 11:22) or Eretz Yisrael (I Samuel 13:19) after the Jewish return from Egypt. The name “Israel” was first used in the tenth century BCE to refer to the northern Jewish kingdom following the division of Solomon’s kingdom.
There was no india but there was china
Persia...??🙄
also another point if I may.. u r saying scientist need to establish how did that first cell came to be.. :D :D no they don't.. :D see that? thing is u want everything now.. which I understand but they don't have all the answers YET!! :D and maybe we wont have it in our lifetime.. :) but that doesn't mean we should jump to conclusions... I give u an example.. lets say 500 years ago people didn't know what was a solar eclipse or lets say 2000years ago a thunder or a volcano erupting.. they thought God is angry... they sacrificed people to ease his anger.. u see the connection..? there were people at that time like u who said the same thing... u need to tell me what is that... or else I'm gonna put God in it.. thats made by God because I don't have any logical answer to that what is a thunder.. but later on.. a scientist figured it out... right? these things take time... sure I wanna know also where or how did life begin.. but the answer is we don't know yet.. and thats what scientist saying also.. they don't know... where as all religion know the answer... :D isn't that convenient?
The Quran literally describes the big bang. "Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together (as one unit of creation) before we clove them asunder?"- Surah Al Anbiya.
You're right that scientists struggle to explain what was there before the big bang! They can only speculate! That's called faith. They believe in what they can not see. Yet won't believe in God. You also said something profound. In order for things to have an order or structure, you need a programmer ( Creator). Also, the part where he goes on about nothing...Nothing does not even exist in reality it's a concept like infinity. They both don't exist in reality they are concepts. Even space is not empty there are particles, atoms and other matter! Nothing would be the absence of EVERYTHING!! An empty room is not empty, there is oxygen, atoms and other matter!! Nothing is the absence of EVERYTHING!! What does that even look like, and if there was something to observe that, then that something would eliminate the absence of nothing. And how does something then form out of Nothing?!! Nothing cannot create something!! If there is absence of EVERYTHING then what created the first substance that lead to the development of the universe, see how fast he skipped past that.
"Indeed, the disbelievers are only ˹lost˺ in delusion."- Surah al-Mulk
true
There is zero need for a creator to have structure. An old book does not describe the big bang, and your explination shows that you have no idea what it really was, and no we do not have faith in science. We so not and can not know what came before the big bang. It is a redundant and rather stupid question. What happened before the word before meant anything? We do not speculate on the subject either. Speculation is not faith to begin with. Faith is the excuse given by those without any evidence or fact for their claims. If you had fact and evidence you wouldn't then need faith. Science by definition is the opposite of faith. There is no blind belief.
Anything can be pulled by the ears.
your religion is as fake as Zeus and Odin are my friend, don't feel special
@@Ambitwine well your atheism is fake so also don't feel special about that.
as-salam alikum brother, please read what authentic scholars have said about the phrase: 'Allah is outside time and space', as this phrase is not totally correct, and it needs to be said in a certain context. You can find the answer on the Islam q&a under the question: Is it acceptable to say that Allah is beyond place and time?
I checked it out and didn't see any issues. Btw be careful because not everything on islamqa is authentic knowledge
@@jantheslovakmuslim I am not sure if you read the same article that I referred to because it mentions that you need to clarify what is meant by this statement and not just say it in a general sense because it could be used to twist knowledge about Allah, and this phrase is not mentioned in the Quran and sunnah, rather statements like Allah is The Frist and The Last and He rose over the mighty throne, and the sheikhs that are referred to in this article are authentic sheikhs. Find here below the article I am referring to:
Firstly:
Saying that Allah, may He be exalted, is beyond place and time is not correct for two reasons:
i. It is something that is not narrated in the Sunnah and is not known in the words of the earlier generations.
ii. It is something that may lead to invalid ideas. Most of those who use affirm this phrase and repeat it intend thereby to deny that Allah, may He be exalted, is above His creation and that He rose above His Throne and is above the heaven.
Undoubtedly denying the exaltedness of Allah and that He is above His creation is a false belief. It is one of the main issues in which the Jahamis differ from Ahl as-Sunnah. The Salaf refuted this misguided notion and affirmed that believing in this idea constitutes disbelief in the Lord of the Worlds, and is contrary to what was mentioned in sound religious texts that reach the level of being mutawaatir [i.e., narrated by so many from so many at each stage of the chain of narration that it is inconceivable that they could all have agreed upon a lie] and contrary to the consensus of the early generations. It is also contrary to common sense and to the dictates of sound human nature.
Secondly:
Even though this phrase is quoted in support of a false notion, there is nothing wrong with asking the one who says it about what he means thereby, so that we may explain to him what there is of sound ideas in what he is trying to prove, or whether there is some unsound or innovated idea that is to be rejected, whilst noting that it is not permissible to use such phrases that could cause one to develop wrong notions with regard to Allah, may He be exalted.
So if he says: We declare Allah to be beyond place, we say to him: What do you mean by this?
If he says: I mean that nothing of His creation can encompass Allah, may He be exalted,
We say to him: This is valid, and we agree with you, because how could anything of His creation encompass Allah, Who is the First and the Last, the Most High and the Most Near? Rather the Lord, may He be exalted, is mightier and greater than all created things; His Kursi extends over the heavens and the earth.
Al-Bukhaari (4812) and Muslim (2787) narrated that Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him) said: I heard the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) say: “Allah, may He be blessed and exalted, will take hold of the earth and will roll up the heavens in His right Hand, then He will say: ‘I am the Sovereign, where are the kings of the earth?’”
If he says: I know that, but what I mean by place is what lies beyond this universe of exaltedness, then he is in fact denying the exaltedness of Allah and His being above His creation.
It should be said to him: This is an invalid meaning that is contrary to common sense and to the soundly narrated reports.
Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allah have mercy on him) said:
If what he means by saying that Allah is beyond place is that no place could encompass Him - may He be glorified and exalted - then this is correct, for nothing of His creation can encompass Allah, may He be exalted; He is too great and too exalted to be encompassed by anything. How can it be otherwise, when “the earth entirely will be [within] His grip on the Day of Resurrection, and the heavens will be folded in His right hand” [az-Zumar 39:67]?
But if what he intends when saying that Allah is beyond place is to deny the exaltedness of Allah, then this is not correct; rather it is false according to the evidence of the Qur’an and Sunnah, the consensus of the early generations, reason and sound common sense.
It is proven from the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) that he said to the slave woman: “Where is Allah?” She said: Up above (meaning above the heaven). He said to her master: “Manumit her, for she is a believing woman.” Narrated by Muslim (537).
Everyone who calls upon Allah, may He be glorified and exalted, can only think of Him being on high. This is instinctive to the human nature (fitrah) that Allah has instilled in people. No one thinks otherwise except one whom the devils have confused. You will not find anyone whose nature is sound calling upon Allah and thinking of Him as being to the right or to the left or down below, or any other direction. Rather he will only think of Him as being up above.
End quote from Majmoo‘ Fataawa wa Rasaa’il Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (1/196-197).
If what he means by saying that is that Allah is everywhere, because no one place could encompass Him, this is also false. In fact it is among the falsest of notions. The scholars of the Committee said:
The one who says that Allah is everywhere, in Himself and His Essence, is wrong; he is a believer in hulool (incarnation) and a kaafir (disbeliever). The one who says that Allah is everywhere By His knowledge, and not in His essence, is correct.
End quote from Fataawa al-Lajnah ad-Daa’imah - vol. 1 (2/38).
Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allah have mercy on him) said in his poem an-Nooniyyah (295):
The Lord is above the Throne and the Kursi; that is common sense which is instilled in all people.
Do not limit Him to one place by saying, “Our Lord is everywhere.”
In your ignorance you suggest that He is not above His Throne, then you try to limit Him by saying that He is in some other place.
Do not suggest that He does not exist by saying that He is not in the universe or outside it.
See also the answers to questions no. 11035 and 124469
Thirdly:
Similar to that is the suggestion that Allah, may He be exalted, is beyond time. This is also not known from the early generations, and it is essential to ask the one who says that what he means thereby.
If he says: I mean that Allah, may He be exalted, existed before all things, and will exist after all things, we say to him: This is correct and we agree with you.
One of the supplications (du‘aa’s) of the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him was that which was narrated by Muslim (2713): “Allaahumma anta al-awwal fa laysa qablaka shay’un, wa anta al-aakhir fa laysa ba’daka shay’un, wa anta al-zaahir fa laysa fawqaka shay’un, wa anta al-baatin fa laysa doonaka shay’un … (O Allah, You are the First and there is nothing before You, You are the Last and there is nothing after You, You are the Most High and there is nothing above You, and You are the Most Near and there is nothing closer than You…).”
Shaykh Ibn Baaz (may Allah have mercy on him) said:
The First (al-Awwal) and az-Zaahir (the Most High) are both attributes which belong to Allah alone, may He be glorified, for He is the One Who existed before all things and will exist after all things, may He be glorified and exalted. He is the Most High, above all of His creation, and will abide after they cease to be.
End quote from Majmoo‘ Fataawa Ibn Baaz (7/292).
If he says: What I mean is to deny the divine attributes that have to do with time, which are those that have to do with divine actions or deeds, such as rising, descending, smiling, being pleased and being angry, and other actions that have to do with His will, so that He does them when and if He wills, and He does not do them when and if He wills, and this person denies that and claims that Allah is beyond time,
We say to him: This is an incorrect and false argument, and we do not agree with you, because Ahl as-Sunnah are unanimously agreed on affirming that the Lord, may He be exalted, descends during the last third of the night, as is proven in the religious texts, in a manner that befits Him, may He be glorified. Similarly, they applied this notion to all other similar attributes (that have to do with divine actions).
What you must do is refrain from opening the door to doubts and insinuating thoughts. So long as Allah has blessed you by guiding you to sound belief, then you should focus on learning from the well-known books and scholars of Ahl as-Sunnah, both classical and modern, such as the books of Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah and Ibn al-Qayyim; the books of Shaykh al-Islam Muhammad ibn ‘Abd al-Wahhaab; and the books of leading callers to Islam such as Shaykh Ibn Baaz and Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen. We also advise you to read the series on ‘Aqeedah in the Light of the Qur’an and Sunnah by Shaykh ‘Umar Sulaymaan al-Ashqar (may Allah have mercy on him) [series of 8 volumes available in English from International Islamic Publishing House (IIPH), Riyadh]. You should also seek refuge with Allah from the accursed Shaytaan and ask Allah to protect you from him and to make you steadfast in adhering to Islam and to the way of Ahl as-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa‘ah, and you should fear Allah both in private and in public. Then the Shaytaan will not be able to overwhelm you with his whispers and doubts, by Allah’s mercy.
For more information, please see the answers to questions no. 12315 and 39684.
And Allah knows best.
@@dinakhattab6609 Thx I read this and I don't see any problem. To be honest, again islamqaa is not the best source of information and secondly be careful how you give naseehah or advice to reverts. I'm ok because I've met many Muslims and I've heard these concerns before, but if you told me this at the beginning of my journey to Islam, your answer would probably create many doubts in me and made me question the entire Islam. You should speak to people on their level. That's my advice to you. But again thank you I understand your concern but again I'm telling you I understand how Allah is above the throne and all of your points.
@@jantheslovakmuslim I am sharing this knowledge with you, and you don't have a problem with it, then where is the problem? Nevertheless, I appreciate your advice, I have dealt with many non-Muslims and reverts, so I do have an idea of what kind of knowledge to share and with who.
If you understand all the points (that the authentic sheikhs have given in the article) and you still don't see any problem, then maybe you could contact an authentic sheikh who could explain it to you further in person.
I don't want to get into a debate, this is sincere advice from your sister in Islam, and you can take it or leave it.
There are different schools of Islamic theology and you're forwarding an anthropomorphic, literalist one which some uneducated people believe in.
There are 3 valid creeds of ahlul sunnah: Athari, Ashari, Maturidi
Imam Tahawi states in his well-known creed, “Contrary to all created things, He is well exalted above limits, end points, pillars, or limbs; and the six directions do not encompass Him
Spices is very expensive, and using that for food in that day
It is just a human thing to glorify things such as gold, diamond, money and last but not least spices.
Shia islam is "new" if you consider around 630 CE to be recent lol
Shiism developed long after the prophets (saw) death. In 630, there were no Shiites.
@@al-hilalgames5708 Shiites would disagree.
@@Seek1878 But majority of muslims would agree😉
@@FS-me8mj So what? Majority doesn't mean being right.
About the atomic bomb, I heard that japan actually wanted to surrender before the americans went on to drop the atomic bomb. But good ol americans still went on to test their new nuclear power on the poor japanese people in hiroshima.
well I'm not sure about this since they never wanted to surrender but I guess we'll never know
That's incorrect. Japan was looking to re-arm their forces and continue fighting. Not to win but cause a stalemate long enough to get a surrender on THEIR terms. If they hadn't dropped the bomb there would have been a far bloodier land invasion.
That's not true, there were already atomic bomb tests in the united states so there was a clear effect on surrounding environments, the only thing that was seen after was the effects of radiation on people over a long period of time and at least in such an acute dose, the effects of longstanding defect of the survivors were relatively minuscule. Also it would be really weird for an Entire culture of people where they saw surrender as a means of dishonor want to surrender prior to the atomic bombs. After all, Before the dropping of the bombs it's not like the Americans were showing something so cataclysmic and lopsided that a defense of the Japanese mainland would be so futile. After all there were still clear talks and information about people rearming on the mainland, if the Japanese were going to surrender, they would have done with after Iwo Jimo and Okinawa where the bombings happened over a month later.
The citizens and the emperor wanted to surrender, but Tojo wanted to keep fighting and he was the major power of this war, he had the iron fist and America didn’t know this that citizens didn’t want this, due to suppression of the media in Japan. Tojo was rearming troops and believed that surrendering was weakness and treason, and so America had no choice, but to nuke Japan. Tojo refused to surrender and America sent another one, Tojo said he would consult with Hirohito and surrendered a month later.
I enjoyed your video but you give the impression of somebody who doesn’t understand the science that you are trying to refute. You seem, for example, to have a very limited understanding of the mechanisms of evolution. Learning the science and then reading the Quran, I believe, very quickly reveals that the two are compatible. If you were created with the capacity to interrogate and understand the natural world then you should honor your creator by doing so.
How is evolution compatible with the Quran? 🤣
I think you have misunderstanding of either the quran or "science" itself.
You are literally made of stardust. Watching this reaction made me sad.
haha
Why Arabians not allowed Bible in their country 😂. Then you speaking about peace and they are not giving any priority to other religion
No religion should be allowed in any country. Religion is the problem, not the solution. Did you understand this video at all????
don't lie please
@al-Lahori Well Mao was a devout Buddhist. Stalin was indeed an atheist, and then Hitler was a devout Christian. Mao didn't do what he did because of his Buddhism, and Stalin didn't do what he did because of his Atheism. You can actually blame their atrocities on their warped communist ideals. Hitler did have religious motive. It has been well documented that countries are the most peaceful, sucessful and happy without religion. That is why religions are losing numbers year by year in vast ammounts. People are just growing up. At a certain age you realize imaginary friends aren't real.
@@jantheslovakmuslim that's fact and true, and there is no holiday in Sunday that mean they are not respect others
@@s.mcreation9605 You don’t give holidays on Friday either. Where’s YOUR so-called respect?
Religion is so sad
Why
Nice job using an amazing, informative video to spread nonsense. Keep it up.
Thanks, bro. What's non-sense about what I said?
@@jantheslovakmuslim let's start with your assertion that a designer must be required.
What you said about Christianity is absurdly wrong. Christianity did arise shortly after the death of Jesus, and the earliest Christians did believe that Jesus is God. The Gospel also describes Him as the Word of God, which was with God, that is God.
Not to mention the lies that you told about Christians being the only ones who persecute people. Try being a Christian in Saudi Arabia.
Are you for real now? :)
Yes even the Quran describes Jesus as the "Word of God". How did you then conclude that he IS God? :)
That's abdurd and none of the early Christians actually had the concept of Trinity until 300 years later. Even hundreds of years after his "death" people still debated his divinity. And today there are Christians who believe that Jesus was never God but a prophet of God.
@@jantheslovakmuslim The Trinity developed very early in Christianity. "I am the judge of all people" "Before Abraham was, I AM" "I am Alpha and Omega. The beginning and the end". Also the Qur'An says that the Word of God is incorruptible. But you say that previous Revelations(Torah and Bible) were corrupted. Fascinating.
@@jantheslovakmuslim Also, the Christian denominations that view Jesus as a mere prophet are denominations invented yesterday that reject all the foundation that has been laid in Christianity over the course of 2000 years.
@@siaotak4657 Wow do you know the difference between the actual revelation that Jesus received vs the bible which was not written by Jesus but by anonymous authors? IF you don't geet this then nothing makes sense to discuss.
Islamic capitalism 😂😂😂 cringe
What's cringe about it?
@@jantheslovakmuslimdo you guys think interests are halal?😂😂