BBC Home Ground 1981: Stalybridge Stockport Railway
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- February 13 1981
BBC Northwest
Home Ground, Stalybridge to Stockport Railway. Brian Redhead, Frank Mellor, Jim Hill. Trains, Huddersfield Narrow, Ashton, Macclesfield & Peak Forest Canal, Cheshire Ring, Ashton-Under-Lyne, Portland Basin, River Tame, Peak District, Stalybridge Station Pub, Stockport Station, Stockport viaduct, BR, British Rail blue, David Owen, Great Central Railway, London Northwestern, Cotton mills, Coal - เพลง
What a wonderful programme from the happy days when the BBC has sufficient funds to make local programmes. Brilliant introduction music and video. And the great Brian Redhead, a national figure who was quite happy to cover a small regional subject. Thanks for posting.
Thanks for watching! I wish there were more of these available - there's another "Home Ground" out there about Northwich (salt mining etc.) otherwise that's all. Great times.
Absolutely fantastic film! Brings back so many great memories of my spotting days at Guide Bridge, before they closed Woodhead.
You and me both, Bert! Thanks for taking the time.
Thanks so much for a fascinating picture of life 40 years ago. Brian Redhead's invitation at the end is sadly impossible to fulfill these days as the one train a week only runs one way. I once lived in the area and my first job was in Stockport, but I emigrated to Australia in 1973, although nostalgia for my homeland is a strong as ever.
Thanks for watching, it’s great that we can all revisit times and places like these, wherever we’ve ended up!
Nope, it does run both ways, though you only get about 20 mins shopping time in stockport, but I think a return via denton enables an via manchester for your return bit (though its a walk to Denton or Reddish South from Reddish North !
Lovely to see that. Travelled that line many times from Stockport to catch a mainline train up to Newcastle to college, 60's. And the reverse journey. Frozen on Stalybridge Station many times!! Great view of the beautiful Viaduct. Thank you.
Really glad you enjoyed it Judith, thank you for watching! James
Heaton Norris Box is still a manual box, BR Standard frame installed in 1955.
Thanks for watching Lawrence. James
18m42s oh Dr David Owen voice was a surprise 😮
Brilliant, I lived in Stockport for many years and I am fascinated by industrial architecture and beer! What a great archive record.
That service was reduced from one per hour to one per week. In one direction only! Although there was talk of having a return journey but that would return to Stockport about 20 minutes after it arrived. Wonderful service.
Travelled on this line every day between 1966-9. Happy days.
Thanks for watching Alan! Bet you might have been on the same train as my Dad - I think he started that commute in about 1960. James
Great to see. I remember this fascinating railway backwater from my student days, travelling weekly from Leeds to Crewe. This would be 1985-1989. In the early days it was a single car class 121 DMU in blue/grey livery. As there was standing room only at peak times they reverted to a 2-car unit in 1987 I think. I can recall seeing all the 'fish name' departmental wagons at Guide Bridge. Happy memories of a simpler and in many ways better time.
Thanks for watching Paul!
I was a second man at guide bridge depot I remember the old guys now sadly deceased in the sidings and their collection of mucky books ! Happy days
I took this line when travelling from Leamington Spa to Huddersfield in the early 1980s when I was studying at Huddersfield Poly.
Wonderful. I was 4 yrs old when this first aired, but watching this now brings back fond memories of Guide Bridge station.
Why this line cannot be rejuvenated by Metrolink I do not know?
I was 16 in 1981, and just started work in the piggeries mentioned in this program, and I can vouch the area was an industrial waste land full of pollution and the weather denotes how the cold held on to the smog, that’s not winter weather is both ! Thanks to those who drove the improvements we enjoy now - cleaner air and fish, trees and birds….. all along the rails, cannels and river we have much more to put back in order ......
Thanks for posting this. I grew up in Stalybridge, and caught this train as a teenager more times than I can remember. It came into Stalybridge on the east bound platform, then reversed back up past the signal box and from there into a small bay on the westbound platform.
Thanks for watching - yep, same here - really pleased at the response this video has got. James
That really is a gem. Thank you!
One train per hour 1981, one train per week (in one direction only) 2019....progress.
I'm guessing that's the "Parliamentary" train now is it? Shame. Thanks for watching Steve. James
I used the Denton Stockport rail link until it was taken off in 1989, and few people used the intermediate stations: the passenger trains were there to convey people between the trans-Pennine services that served Stalybridge and the WCML ones running via Stockport. After 1989 most of the passengers were carried to and from Manchester Piccadilly, where they could change trains, using a remodelled junction at Ardwick, so the Stalybridge-Stockport line was considered redundant except for freight.
@@None-zc5vg I used it to get home from Huddersfield to New Mills. I used it for the Stalybridge to Guide Bridge leg.
@@None-zc5vg Denton could be expanded as there is a small leisure and shopping nearby now, and scope for residential development
there must be no call for it?
Don’t know how I have never seen this video before. I remember as a kid going to Stockport to my Nan’s. Sat behind the driver, and it felt like we were also driving.
Glimpsed in this clip at 2.35 is the 2-car "105/100" hybrid d.m.u. that was once a fixture on the Rose Hill-Piccadilly service through Hyde. It was scheduled for preservation but was left exposed in sidings to be vandalised and inevitably scrapped. I travelled on it several times.
The Reddish Vale Mill at 8.19 is no more: the site is currently being 'redeveloped'
So much else of what's in the clip has disappeared following the closure of the Woodhead route and its associated lines. There was no need for the Stockport-Stalybridge link once the trains from Leeds had been diverted via Guide Bridge into Piccadilly in the late '80s.
Its sobering to think that all of the track and infrastructure installed in the 1880s/1890s to give extra capacity between Stockport and Leeds via Denton, Stalybridge, Huddersfield and Leeds (via Heckmondwike) was closed and demolished from the 1960s on.
@@None-zc5vg Everyone seems to think the world begins and ends with Manchester, with links to Stockport to the South and Burnley to the north while not impossible, are scant compared to what they could be (unless you have a car)
@@highpath4776 It's essentially a railway for well-off/expense-account car-owners. As for reinstating dead routes and their infrastructure, modern-day costs for land, labour and track/buildings/signalling/trains,etc. will make it well-nigh impossible to fund them.
4.07 to 09 passes my house I sold in 1985. There used to be a huge sidings there called Jubilee Sidings. Can clearly see Ash Garage on Manchester Road, Heaton Norris too. My school, St Anne's RC, the other side of track. Yes, did this run I'd guess about 1963 to Stalybridge trainspotting.
Fascinating, thanks for posting
Thanks for watching, Claire! Have you seen Martin Zero's northwest UK-based channel? It's full of this sort of stuff: th-cam.com/channels/3fqrmSkFjmkGGBPkoBO1GQ.html
This line appeared on a radio 4 documentary about 'parliamentary trains' a few years ago: There are about 4 such trains across England and it would take an act of Parliament to scrap the them.
P.S. Staleybridge Station buffet bar is enough to turn a man to drink!
Fantastic. I live in Stalybridge, what a historical tour of the line. It would be good if it was back to 1 train per hour, instead of now 1 or 2 per week. Even go as far as part of a tram circle line that could be built keeping the old stations and adding new one's. Stalybridge-Stockport-Manchester-Ashton under Lyne-Stalybridge to put some new life back into the line, intersecting with a stop at Guide Bridge, to change trams that could run between Glossop and Manchester and maybe the Marple line via Hyde.
Great ideas!
The short length of track which allowed a direct Stockport-Ashton link was closed years ago and the trackbed disappeared under the Marks and Spencer store in Ashton.
@@BikiniTestFailure Nah. Oldham had a decent heavy rail line from Manchester. What has it got now? An indifferent tram service, the closure of Werneth Tunnel and an interminable journey.
@@class87srule Those tram-networks that nobody knew they needed before the '80s must have been nice little earners for.the "right people".
Brilliant 👏
A very interesting watch.
Glad you liked it - thanks for watching. James
An education. Tks
Good - hope you enjoyed it Philip. James
Denton station had the queen's Hotel a great pub for under age drinkers
i,v done this line many times...
Brian Redhead, adopted Mancunian. Rip Brian, proud northerner. 👏
Great episode, of a great series. Thanks for posting.
Yeah, lets have a cheer, for the much maligned and under-funded British Rail; and Train travel in general. Bias I hear? As a BR Signalman of course. 😁
The guy shouting all change at Stalybridge station sounds like a guy called John he was the station porter he retired about 2002 he was there 30 plus years! I heard they're going to reinstate the Stockport to Stalybridge service in 2022 so let's wait and see as its a nice journey to see the countryside in this local area of the Cheshire Lancashire borders.
I think you’re right about John. In my dad’s time there was also a friendly station chap called Ashley - he gave me sone of his old cap badges when I was a kid.
is currently sats one morning return service.
The biggest brick built bridge in the world is the Göltzsch Viaduct, Stockport railway bridge is the largest in the UK...
the signaling at Guide bridge was worked off vacuum /or maybe Air
Now Up to a train either direction once a week - more progress!
Such a shame - a massive part of my childhood, that train. Thanks for watching, Malcolm. James
One thing they don't mention when they go past the Craven's factory !! One of the rains cars in a Craven's class 105 so was most probably built there !
The best way to see the Reddish South / Denton line nowadays is from Don Coffey's cab-view videos: th-cam.com/video/cEPXMmjtvPs/w-d-xo.html(goes from Guide Bridge to Stockport) or th-cam.com/video/ZSr0EXGxpdE/w-d-xo.html (goes from Stockport towards Guide Bridge but turns left by Audenshawe Reservoir onto the line towards Brewery Junction north of Man Vic). Guide Bridge to Stalybridge is the easy bit: all the Man Picc to Huddersfield to Leeds trains do it.
This video th-cam.com/video/99EijmRp_eg/w-d-xo.html follows the complete route (Stalybridge to Stockport direction).
@1.36. Guy sitting behind. Smoke rising like a coal fired power station from his cigarette. Ahhhh - the days of smelling smoke inside and your shirt reeking of it if too many were smoking when you got off.
Thanks for the comment! Amazed my Dad (Jim Hill) refrained from smoking long enough to chat to Brian Redhead! Hard to realise now, but everytime anyone went home from an office or pub, we'd all reek of smoke.
Once an hour sercice then, now once a week and only in one direcection. D'oh!
Now, the line sees two services on Saturday. One going on the up and one on the down. Not really progress though.
Sheer delight.
Ha! Agreed. Thanks for watching.
13:28 the line on left you can get to Manchester Victoria
had many a pint in the buffet a pint of Moorhouse please ...
Thanks for putting this on here. I've never seen it before. I worked at Guide Bridge and I think my motorbike was in the bike shed as they passed! The world and the railway were a lot better then, IMHO, despite THAT BITCH running it all down. And look at the railway- no rampant weed-tree growth; you can see for miles.
Ha! Great - I'll watch it again and look out for your 'bike. When I was a kid Guide Bridge was very handy for trainspotting... Thanks for watching. James