Interesting series and look forward to more of it and of course your expert opinion. A few fellas on blade forum including me share the opinion that the 60 grit Baryonyx Manticore will out cut any course diamond plate. This stone is a beast and will last much much longer than any diamond plate. They are hard to dish and require pressure. I can attest because I own one and several plates. They are still available on their website if anyone is interested. There are a few videos on TH-cam displaying them. I would sure like to see one in your hands Joe. Cheers!
I have found Atoma plates are much better for edge trailing instead of edge leading in their coarse grits. I use their 140 and 600 but I get where you might not like the diamond button texture. I have yet to try the Eze-Lap large format stones, but I have their diamond paddles and files and they are pretty great for those applications. Looking forward to the new series!
its been awhile since I used my atoma, i hope ill remember to try trailing strokes on it to see if that works better for me. the ezelap stones did really well on the unboxing and first edges video that I shot the other day and I like them alot.
the sharpal 162n is fantastic for the price, 325/1200 grit, used mine a lot, and it's still holding up great. Can only recommend that one. But if price isn't the issue, then the atoma plates are the highest quality plated diamonds hands down imo. Tho due to their bonding process, they aren't a continuous surface, so they're great for cutting, and flattening stones, but not so great at finishing.
i did the unboxing video the other day on that sharpal, and I really like it so far! the one atoma stone that I have is a 400 grit i think, and we dont get along all that well. but I use diamonds mostly for finishing, so maybe thats why
DMT is not what they once were the grain size contamination is worse on the ones I have gotten recently. I like EZE LAP they have been a favorite for years. The large Falkniven 8 1/2 by 2 1/4 is my favorite. It has a fine diamond on one side and a synthetic sapphire on the other. The grit size is very consistent it is my workhorse. The sapphire side does a great job of finishing the edge and shearing the burr.
the atoma that I have feels slightly spongy under the knife to me. and the diamonds, while they cut ok, dont seem to be as sharp as the dmt or smiths and they dont shear the burr off as nicely from what i remmeber
That husky is two sided the 600 side is no holes. If been trying it out. So far I like it but mostly the 400 side then go to a lower grit with natural stone. And I have getting a good edge after stropping.
Can't wait to hear your detailed review of the Sharpal. The box says it should never get wet at all. Some Amazon reviews showed water creating bubbles underneath the diamond layer as if the diamond layer is glued on. Not sure what to make of it.
ive been using the EZE lap stones for years and years...i carry one of their smaller ones in my pocket and have sharpened hundreds of blades on it...keep a set of 4 of the 4 inch sharpeners in my edc bag so they are always with me...they do need a bit of break in though to settle the surface...couple cheap knives usually does that work
i shot the unboxing vid on the ezelap yesterday, and it is a nice stone, way less break in than the dmt, and no clumps of diamonds to dig out of the surface.
Yes i got your point of view, exactly the diamond Grits are not successful so far, the problem is the surface balance vanished with the passage of time and also diamond going to disappear means the abrasive area stops working.... Conventional wet stones are good and easily able to surface them
Ive tried a few different diamond stones and still find the dmt my favorite. I did buy the Shapel 2 sided stone ,but haven't used it enough to form a complete opinion yet . I use the Atomas to flatten my water stones. They are good for that. Better to use the for something ?
a long time ago someone gave me a lansky guided rod sharpening system. those take me longer to set the knife up in the jig than just freehanding it on a stone. so i just use regular bench stones
i have not heard all that much bad about dmt. but then again i spend most of my time in the shop and dont get out much to hear that sort of thing. diamond stones are handy!
Interesting series and look forward to more of it and
of course your expert opinion.
A few fellas on blade forum including me share the opinion that the 60 grit Baryonyx Manticore will out cut any course diamond plate. This
stone is a beast and will last much much longer than any diamond plate. They are hard to dish and require pressure.
I can attest because I own one and several plates. They are still available on their website if anyone is interested. There
are a few videos on TH-cam displaying them. I would sure like to see one in your hands Joe. Cheers!
that looks like an interesting stone!
Go to be very interesting series. Thank you Joe.
I hope you enjoy the series!
Thanks, that is disappointing to hear your recent experience with dmt . I am looking forward to this series.
I hope you enjoy the series!
I have found Atoma plates are much better for edge trailing instead of edge leading in their coarse grits. I use their 140 and 600 but I get where you might not like the diamond button texture. I have yet to try the Eze-Lap large format stones, but I have their diamond paddles and files and they are pretty great for those applications. Looking forward to the new series!
its been awhile since I used my atoma, i hope ill remember to try trailing strokes on it to see if that works better for me. the ezelap stones did really well on the unboxing and first edges video that I shot the other day and I like them alot.
the sharpal 162n is fantastic for the price, 325/1200 grit, used mine a lot, and it's still holding up great. Can only recommend that one.
But if price isn't the issue, then the atoma plates are the highest quality plated diamonds hands down imo. Tho due to their bonding process, they aren't a continuous surface, so they're great for cutting, and flattening stones, but not so great at finishing.
i did the unboxing video the other day on that sharpal, and I really like it so far! the one atoma stone that I have is a 400 grit i think, and we dont get along all that well. but I use diamonds mostly for finishing, so maybe thats why
YAY A NEW SERIES!!!!! 🎉❤
this one should be fun! enjoy!
DMT is not what they once were the grain size contamination is worse on the ones I have gotten recently. I like EZE LAP they have been a favorite for years. The large Falkniven 8 1/2 by 2 1/4 is my favorite. It has a fine diamond on one side and a synthetic sapphire on the other. The grit size is very consistent it is my workhorse. The sapphire side does a great job of finishing the edge and shearing the burr.
i have an eze-lap and just shot the unboxing video on it yesterday, its a pretty nice stone! i dont have one of the falknivens to try out though.
8:25 I was going to say why no Atoma, but you got one! Why don't you like it?
the atoma that I have feels slightly spongy under the knife to me. and the diamonds, while they cut ok, dont seem to be as sharp as the dmt or smiths and they dont shear the burr off as nicely from what i remmeber
That husky is two sided the 600 side is no holes. If been trying it out. So far I like it but mostly the 400 side then go to a lower grit with natural stone. And I have getting a good edge after stropping.
i did not realize it was two sided until you mentioned that. I just looked and mine is 2 sided also!
I've been through a bunch of diamond stones. The 8 inch sharpal 300/1200 is the best I've used so far. I like the eze-lap as well.
i did the unboxing and first edges with the sharpal the other day, and i am really liking it so far! the ezelaps did really well also!
Can't wait to hear your detailed review of the Sharpal.
The box says it should never get wet at all. Some Amazon reviews showed water creating bubbles underneath the diamond layer as if the diamond layer is glued on. Not sure what to make of it.
thanks for the heads up. i did the unboxing video on it yesterday, and saw the directions, but didnt read them. I will now though.
ive been using the EZE lap stones for years and years...i carry one of their smaller ones in my pocket and have sharpened hundreds of blades on it...keep a set of 4 of the 4 inch sharpeners in my edc bag so they are always with me...they do need a bit of break in though to settle the surface...couple cheap knives usually does that work
i shot the unboxing vid on the ezelap yesterday, and it is a nice stone, way less break in than the dmt, and no clumps of diamonds to dig out of the surface.
Yes i got your point of view, exactly the diamond Grits are not successful so far, the problem is the surface balance vanished with the passage of time and also diamond going to disappear means the abrasive area stops working.... Conventional wet stones are good and easily able to surface them
yes, diamond stones are pretty much disposable stones.
Ive tried a few different diamond stones and still find the dmt my favorite.
I did buy the Shapel 2 sided stone ,but haven't used it enough to form a complete
opinion yet . I use the Atomas to flatten my water stones. They are good for that. Better to use the for something ?
the dmt is a great stone, if you get a good one, and it seems like it has been quite awhile since I got a good one.
Great!
Ever tried a fixed angle system like the kme. They have great diamond stones from 50 grit up to 1500
a long time ago someone gave me a lansky guided rod sharpening system. those take me longer to set the knife up in the jig than just freehanding it on a stone. so i just use regular bench stones
Try atoma plate? I also used 3M PET film sand paper, which are more long lasting than I expected.
i have one atoma, and dont care for it much. it will be in the series soon.
@@joecalton1449 Looking forward to your experience on the Atoma.
I own a pile of stones. But for a long time now. Everyone told me to stay away from dmt. I've got to get into diamond stones.
i have not heard all that much bad about dmt. but then again i spend most of my time in the shop and dont get out much to hear that sort of thing. diamond stones are handy!
I don’t like the diamond stones with the holes n them. I can’t get the tip of the knife good. It drops in the holes.
im not too fond of the holy stones either.