You really need to learn more about color correction, this video is hideous to look at. ,a dits all because of the color grading. Stop giving LUT’s away, until you’ve learned more.
Dynamic range was the dead givaway. Many Tree trunks and shadows black on iphone, lots of texture with the canon. And as he pointed out the iphone blew out the sky also. How is that good dynamic range? I guess good dynamic range for a phone
Not really? 9to5mac.com/2018/10/08/portrait-mode-selfie-pixel-iphone-fans-fooled/ and check Halide blog for explanations blog.halide.cam/iphone-xs-why-its-a-whole-new-camera-ddf9780d714c
Not really a fair comparison. One is graded and the other is straight from the camera. IF the iPhone footage was shot on a flat profile and graded afterward, the results will be a lot more comparable.
Owen Wong fair comparison? To what? If you use both cameras to take just raw un processed clips there will be no base for any comparison. Can you compare a Ferrari with a golf gti? Well they are both cars. Now let’s see what is fair. iPhone is grading the images in the phone, while the cannon image is graded post. Which of the two is not fair? I will let you decide. You may argue, yeah why is the cannon image not graded in camera then? Well when people make movies they take 100 of clips during day, night, sun, clouds rain etc and they want to bring out variou emotions according to their script, in order to do that they need to have raw footage which they can adjust. By the way if you project an iPhone taken movie on a movie screen then you will see the shortcomings, like the golf vs Ferrari on the track.
Both recordings have high compression and look like crap. Both recordings have highlights blown out... It's like you overexposed it on both cameras... WTF?
Before seeing camera 2, I thought that camera 1 was the iPhone, but after camera 2 I thought the first one was cinema. In 720p on small screen, camera 2 looks so soft that it seems out of focus
You don't see the difference between 720p and 1440p in a phone. I have the s9 plus and I have put the resolution in 1080p because I can't see the difference and i can save some battery
Right from the start I could tell the first cam was the iPhone, without even going through the whole clip or comparing it to whatever was going to come next. What gave it away was basically a combination of detail, sharpness, quality of the pixels (if that's even a thing) and depth.
It was clear that camera 1 was the iPhone. But, most of the people that are not photographer or videographer will not notice the different specially when they use it mostly for social media platforms👍
I agree. The iPhone XS isn't made for film makers its made for the massed to help them create content for online and social media. and it does extremely well at that.
Agreed. I had exactly the same thoughts !! I would like to see how the C200 with lots of post would look. The c200 looked way too soft IMO and I’m questioning if it had focus problems or the DOF wasn’t setup correctly.
Izzy G the thing is, it can’t. You can make any camera look as bad as an iphone but you can’t get the iphone to look nearly as good. It’s about the sensor size, the log curves, the highlight rolloff, color science, etc etc. just because it’s all 4K doesn’t mean its all the same
Iphone XS Max as he said has way too much sharpening to the point where i can’t focus in the creativity put into it,otherwise great work to APPLE done a really good job with the dynamic range compare to the size it has.
What is the point of taking a cinema camera and make a video full of speed ramps, zero motion blur, Instagram-like color grading, unnatural digital transitions where all the video is shaking and stretching, no stabilisation and extreme depth of field? Just use a smartphone camera to do so.
Love this video. What a awesome iPhone Xs vs cinema camera comparison. While I can see that the iPhone is the first one it’s harder to tell than I thought it would be.
Sorry but your video seems to have more compression than many others on youtube, macroblocking is destroying it. I guess you should have uploaded at a better quality, bitrate or codec, this is looking too bad for any comparison.
@@clearlyed yes, 4k version on a 4k monitor at the refresh rate of the video frame rate, with no gpu noise reduction or color correction, compared to the "potato" channel it looks substancially more compressed, i noticed that your shots are really pushing the cameras since there areas with great amount of detail and relatively quick movements but i think it's substancially more co.pressed even when you take account the c200 scenes that shouldn't show as much.
Easily Camera 2 is the Cinema Camera... (Commented pausing at 2:14 while watching the video..) Here's what I noticed in camera 2... More Dynamic Range Accurate/true to life color Subject seperation/depth of objects Details No over-sharpen/ no over-saturation Leaves.... There is something about leaves and textures... Looks great.... And cinematic.... Note that I watched this, at 30% brightness on a 1080p Full HD+ IPS screen 6inch phone... Device Pocophone F1...
At first glance, focal length makes me sure about Xs, after that, contrast, harsh in highlight area, some times the extra sharpness. Obviously because of better colour correction that u did was well enough for Xs to get confusion but less thn 5 seconds Xs was detected.
That sharpness though.. i wonder that at aleast iphone should include the setting in the phone to tune the sharpness, contrast, and many more. It doesnt matter if that menu included in the setting itself just for occasional professional use though. The dynamic range for high end phone camera this day was so good that sometimes i'd rather grab my phone for everyday use rather than DSLR camera.. i think thats because their small sensor enable the processor to work in background to process the photo, unlike full frame or apsc camera that produced high bit rate and large file so the processor speed cannot keep up with the processing and your shot is great, love it :)
Yeah, a lot of phones shoot way better videos and pictures if you turn off sharpening or use a third party camera app. It's sad, but it tricks people into believing there's more detail, but only when watching on the phone.
@@elsamuel695 yeah, but still camera phone works best when they see on phone screen only.. better slr camera, better video camera and better sensor work best on any screen (sometime its overkill too see on phone screen)
@@rypdx You can't turn the sharpness down, that's the issue. Contrast, sure, but not edge sharpening. If you tried editing it away, you'd get tons of artifacts and distortion. All iPhones do this since iPhone 7.
I think computational photography/Smart HDR is what mostly differentiates the XS camera from the X. If you tried 4k 30 FPS instead, you'd get even better results. Would be interesting to see how the highlights look at 3:05 with Smart HDR working.
try changing the setting to 30fps, you will get more dynamic range, iPhone will activate smart HDR in video and that might help you with the loss of detail in the highlights.
Lmao I could tell the iPhone was camera 1 because the iPhone was mounted on top of the cinema camera and I tell the difference between who I’ve one was higher and lower
Bummer!! I noticed that first and then it was pretty obvious to spot other differences. But I gotta admit that if I hadn't noticed the height difference I would have had to really look closely to spot it. Looks like iPhone XS does a good job indeed.
Note that the XS Max doesn't use the close-up camera for taking video (unless you zoom in, maybe?) but this video looks like it was shot with the XS Max's wide-angle lens, which is the exact same lens found in the iPhone XR for like half the price, if any of you are thinking of getting one.
I only shoot with my iPhone 8 Plus & picked the 1st one immediately because of the camera glare it gives off. A bit of a nuisance but I deal with it afterwards! Super video too!
Tell me about it. Looking at the iPhone XS camera footage straight from camera it looked awesome on the hone but then it didn't look great once I tried to do anything with it. Basically its shot on a iPhone and looks awesome on an iPhone :)
I could be wrong, but from reading through tutorial from guys who shoot landscape photography. They use ND to tone down reflection and sharpness of leaves, water, and other objects during bright sunlight. The footage does seem to be overexposed, but maybe due to sunlight and wrong setting. Moment lens do carry ND filter attachment for some of their lenses for selected popular phones. As in phone vs professional grade cameras/camcorder, only people in that profession or OCD people can tell a difference. I’m not a pro or anywhere near it, but raw footage in front of a monitor is the only way I could tell a remarkable difference.
Photos In Color the processor you need to do such a thing will cost another 2-3k plus the extra ram before you consider the power required. That’s double the price. In 5 years though when 7nm chips are mainstream it will be possible at max 5 k. This is actually what has held photo companies back, processors. That’s why Sony and Panasonic are so much ahead. The problem with cameras is that their lifecycle is very long so tech development cannot compete with phones or tablets,therefore they cannot refresh fast enough at reasonable cost. For example gopro wich is not such a demanding device got in real trouble once they completed on product cycle . Who needs to buy a new GoPro every two years?
You have the biggest tech company so of course their processing should be amazing. They cant compete with the sensor at all. So imagine what is in the future for bigger sensor cameras plus this processing. I could imagine a sony a7r6 with like 20 stops of DR and good colors
Looked at this on my iPhone screen...not even in full screen and I could immediately tell the 1st one was an iPhone. Those lense flares were massive...covered the whole screen!. And even in your thumbnail I could see lots of fringing where the trees met the sky in the 1st one.
Thanks for the comparison. As you said the big difference is the creator behind the camera no matter if it’s an iPhone or C300 or a GoPro.. it’s nice to see these shoot outs though.
Thats always the giveaway with a small lens iPhone. That being said the iPhone XS video has the sest flares I have seen on a phone. But nothing compared to a cinema camera.
That gave it away for me, too. But all things equal, the iPhone does a bang up job. When you compare the price...most people won't notice the difference enough to justify the cost.
I preferred the sharpness of the iPhone footage and also believe that, from a cost/benefit standpoint, there is no comparison between the two cameras. Great video - thanks!
hahaha. this was definitely not trying to change anyone option on what smartphone to buy. there is a lot more to think about than just the camera. But you are correct that the iPhone X camera quality is pretty impressive. But the Picel 3 is coming out. lets see how that does.
The only thing I don’t like about the iPhone Xs video is that sometimes you can see weird artifacts due to software processing (probably the so called ai camera part) where the software tries to calculate how the image should look like and sometimes it fails...
I figured camera 1 was the iPhone for 2 reasons: 1. The unintentional lens flare, which id presume the iPhone is more susceptible to. 2. The dynamic range. When she’s walking through the forest you can really see that contrast between light and shadow. 3. The textures on the ground when she’s on the log. Though not necessarily a BAD thing for the iPhone.. it’s software is able to detect and really bring out some of that detail on its own in a way that a human operator can’t always do without any effort. There are definitely some ways in which the Phone will actually exceed the pro camera IMO. But the real glaring differences will almost always be how the cameras handle light. In its ideal environment/lighting situation the phone will look better.. but as soon as it stays from that? No way..
I think many people down in comments took the video in the wrong way: i don't think anyone here wanted to tell us that an iphone could replace a professional camera, it's just amazing that it can record something that is COMPARABLE to anything shot by a Canon c200 (in daylight). Of course we will never see a blockbuster recorded with all iPhone XS, but still the result showed here are amazing for a camera phone and i think that's the whole focus of this video.
Video is currently paused at 2:16. I think the first video is iPhone footage. Reasoning: details seem a bit to “digitally sharp”, seems like there’s less dynamic range in the sky (less details in cloud). I think 2 is the cinema camera due to the slightly “silkier” smoothness of the areas with lots of texture (eg twigs on ground) and more details / smoother gradients in sky & clouds. Cheeky though that you might have added lens flares in post on video 1 to make it seem like an “actual” lens was used^^ - Anyways, just my observations, going to continue watching now!
You've killed the footage with compression. Just compare your studio shots with your live footage - there's absolutely no detail on the live shots and a ton of detail on the studio ones. Dunno, was it TH-cam issue (too many trees are a nightmare for low bitrate), or you did kill the footage with compression on purpose, but it's a really bad example to tell the difference. When exposed properly lots of cameras nowadays show a little to none difference, even an iPhone 6s can be matched to Arri Alexa Mini in ideal conditions (sunny day on a beach, sunny day in the snowy mountains). Unless you underexpose your footage a tiny bit, or overexpose - that's where all the hell of a difference comes out. Cinema cameras (which Canon is obviously not, hence the naming) contain color accuracy across the range. And, at last - cinema cameras are meant to be viewed on a cinema screen. Size hugely matters, you see tons of details on a big screen, while viewing on your phone or tablet - you mostly see none at all.
It was very easy to tell that Camera 2 was the Canon, but only if you put in on 4K on TH-cam, because the 1080p Bitrate of TH-cam is too low for trees and such stuff. Then it is hard to tell an difference exept if you now you know to look for Sharpening artefacts etc..
Is true that the cinema camera is better but people are messing the point I think (it doesn’t really matter if is an iPhone, pixel or Samsung camera), they are evolving faster than normal cameras, you can get a seriously nice quality with a phone with a tiny sensor that u can get whatever you want because it fits on your pocket, that thing in your pocket every year is reaching the quality of a stand-alone camera just made it for that purpose. Plus with some apps you can record in log so u can get more freedom like a normal camera.
I saw exactly 10 seconds of your video, and this is NOT a cinema camera. Its a DIGITALcamera recording in CineFilm format. Get your titles right. So it is not an Iphone VS a CINEMA camera - its an Iphone vs a fancy digital camera with cool looking rigs.
You just made the dumbest statement in the history of statements. The camera he uses is definitely a cinema camera. It is even called Canon C200 Digital Cinema Camera. Litteraly has Cinema in title. Get your information right.
For all people talking about "bad" quality in the Canon, just up the video resolution to 4k. It's probably something having to do with the youtube compression.
I guessed correctly. What gave it away was the extreme sharpening the iPhone does, but to be fair, the cameras on iPhones can do better than this, it's the software that tries to "blow up" the image that often makes it look bad. When I use a third-party app for shooting photos with my iPhone 7 which allows me to get a RAW shot, I get MUCH better results than what the default iOS Camera app can do.
Yeah that was easier to tell apart than I expected honestly. The dynamic range visible through the clouds in the sky gave it away. If it wasn't for that, you'd have to look a lot closer. Cool comparison!
I had no idea which camera is which. Smart phone cameras have gotten so great now. If a person is creative he can really polish his/her skills with just a phone.
This is not a good comparison because you didn’t specify if you changed any of the settings on the iPhone XS. The camera on the iPhone has several different resolution options in the settings from 720p - 4K. This would be a better comparison if you shot in 4K 24fps or 60fps.
Most of the time in these Red Dragon vs iPhone or Arri Alexa vs iPhone videos, it’s 1) Depth of field that gives it away 2) Dynamic Range 3) Highlight Rolloff. But you shot that C300 at some f12 or something to take DOF away. And the XS’s dynamic range is 3-4 stops better than the 2017 iPhone X, so it’s actually a good bit harder to tell that. Not TOO many sun shots where highlight roll off is viewed, but I’d have to say this video it’s the darks that gave it away. iPhone’s shadows were like a cliff, no info in the darks it seemed like. But the C300 faded into the darks gradually. Seemed less contrasty. It’s gonna be a lot harder to tell going forward. God forbid Apple puts an iPhone’s computing power behind an APSC or Super 35 Sensor that can capture in CinemaDNG or ProRes 444 even. It’ll change the damn world.
*pausing video* im guessing the first clip was of the iphone and the second is of the c200 there is an obvious difference when viewing at fullscreen, when not fullscreen you cant see "much difference" which is actually wild
Excellent video topic! I have not seen the answer, but my guess is that the first was the iPhone, because I saw more MPEG artifacts, especially around the actress’ hair. The second looked more “soft-focus.”
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You really need to learn more about color correction, this video is hideous to look at. ,a dits all because of the color grading. Stop giving LUT’s away, until you’ve learned more.
iPhone - 1 oversharpened, less details in shadows (dr not as good)
Canon - 2
@@jaaroli4202 You can compare easily, just click on a scene and jump to the other, is so much different
@@jaaroli4202 Nope the difference is noticeable you can see how oversharped is the iPhone camera you don't have to watch until the end of the video.
Chinese phones are more oversharpening than iPhone
It's very difficult to recognize the difference when watch on a small screen
u say oversharpened. I say the pro camera was more blurry.
Watched it on 144 p
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@@UsamaHashmiOfficial And still looks shit with this compression :D
@@TheKisem nope looks cool now
niki Kumar no 4k
Both look cheap
The dynamic range on the iPhone is damn impressive! They went completely overboard with sharpening however.
I agree 100% with you here. The iPhone XS camera footage its so impressive I just wish you could turn down the sharpening.
Dynamic range was the dead givaway. Many Tree trunks and shadows black on iphone, lots of texture with the canon. And as he pointed out the iphone blew out the sky also. How is that good dynamic range? I guess good dynamic range for a phone
Not really? 9to5mac.com/2018/10/08/portrait-mode-selfie-pixel-iphone-fans-fooled/ and check Halide blog for explanations blog.halide.cam/iphone-xs-why-its-a-whole-new-camera-ddf9780d714c
Not really a fair comparison. One is graded and the other is straight from the camera. IF the iPhone footage was shot on a flat profile and graded afterward, the results will be a lot more comparable.
Owen Wong fair comparison? To what? If you use both cameras to take just raw un processed clips there will be no base for any comparison. Can you compare a Ferrari with a golf gti? Well they are both cars. Now let’s see what is fair. iPhone is grading the images in the phone, while the cannon image is graded post. Which of the two is not fair? I will let you decide. You may argue, yeah why is the cannon image not graded in camera then? Well when people make movies they take 100 of clips during day, night, sun, clouds rain etc and they want to bring out variou emotions according to their script, in order to do that they need to have raw footage which they can adjust. By the way if you project an iPhone taken movie on a movie screen then you will see the shortcomings, like the golf vs Ferrari on the track.
Both recordings have high compression and look like crap. Both recordings have highlights blown out... It's like you overexposed it on both cameras... WTF?
Exactly. Feels like it was made bad on purpose just to praise iPhone.
Camera 1 iPhone so sharp and the reflection of the sun lights.. great work
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Bad 1080p quality.. could you please increase bitrates in your videos?
You should be able to see this in 4K at 10bit
@@clearlyed Bro,Did you just say that you uploaded a 4k video with 10k bitrate?You must be trolling
@@kareklopodaros 10 bit color!
@@clearlyed bitrate is not the same as 10bit. dude wtf
Low quality like 480p WTF!
Before seeing camera 2, I thought that camera 1 was the iPhone, but after camera 2 I thought the first one was cinema. In 720p on small screen, camera 2 looks so soft that it seems out of focus
its always hard when not viewing in full res. a softer image is a lit kinder to people and skin tones which is how we get that cinematic feel.
It's also part of Canon always being softer with their sensors.
You don't see the difference between 720p and 1440p in a phone. I have the s9 plus and I have put the resolution in 1080p because I can't see the difference and i can save some battery
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Exactly
IPhone has small camera module but the image is quite damm good
I know right. It’s crazy.
Its small sensor hurts it in the long run.
Right from the start I could tell the first cam was the iPhone, without even going through the whole clip or comparing it to whatever was going to come next.
What gave it away was basically a combination of detail, sharpness, quality of the pixels (if that's even a thing) and depth.
Good for you, I couldn't. Looks like Iphone is more than enough for me for a long time.
I correctly guessed the iPhone was camera 1 for the same reasons he stated in the video: oversharpening and blown highlights.
It was clear that camera 1 was the iPhone. But, most of the people that are not photographer or videographer will not notice the different specially when they use it mostly for social media platforms👍
I agree. The iPhone XS isn't made for film makers its made for the massed to help them create content for online and social media. and it does extremely well at that.
WOW! I totally thought the digital camera was Camera 1, and the iPhone was Camera 2 😳 I’m actually so shocked. The quality is amazing!
It fooled a lot of people. Even the staff in my studio got it wrong. Happy you enjoyed this iPhone xs comparison video
Agreed. I had exactly the same thoughts !! I would like to see how the C200 with lots of post would look. The c200 looked way too soft IMO and I’m questioning if it had focus problems or the DOF wasn’t setup correctly.
Photos In Color that is not very comforting? Have they helped in creating the LUTs? Just 🙃. They look nice by the way.
He is clearly a isheep .he didn't use the full color grading of the cannon.unsuscribing him.
@@clearlyed That means you work in a shitty studio :D
You kinda murdered the color grading on the cinema camera... It would've blown away the iPhone had you properly color graded it
In the end he's just an isheep
^ In the end you are just broke and salty
@@ely1188 yeah.. talk to my $1400 Asus ROG phone & $1000 samsung note 9 you iDiot ass hole
Izzy G the thing is, it can’t. You can make any camera look as bad as an iphone but you can’t get the iphone to look nearly as good. It’s about the sensor size, the log curves, the highlight rolloff, color science, etc etc. just because it’s all 4K doesn’t mean its all the same
...and the focus
Iphone XS Max as he said has way too much sharpening to the point where i can’t focus in the creativity put into it,otherwise great work to APPLE done a really good job with the dynamic range compare to the size it has.
What is the point of taking a cinema camera and make a video full of speed ramps, zero motion blur, Instagram-like color grading, unnatural digital transitions where all the video is shaking and stretching, no stabilisation and extreme depth of field? Just use a smartphone camera to do so.
I would love to see this comparison at night! LOL
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yeah.. in iphone must be only noise and blur
Jealousy much guys?
@@Badassblacksmith Apple fanboy much?
@@eivanbarnes8232 canon fanboy much?
There is no way that professional camera ends up with such a garbage video.
C200 looks like garbage here
Anyone can take a $10,000 camera and shoot garbage.
I think It is because he needs to manipulete the imagem with more color tools, that's why It isn't so good.
We need tutorial how to shot garbage video from a high end camera.
Docta you can manipulate the colors on iphone too so fuck it iphone is better
Love this video. What a awesome iPhone Xs vs cinema camera comparison. While I can see that the iPhone is the first one it’s harder to tell than I thought it would be.
Sorry but your video seems to have more compression than many others on youtube, macroblocking is destroying it.
I guess you should have uploaded at a better quality, bitrate or codec, this is looking too bad for any comparison.
I’m thinking that TH-cams compression is killing it for you. Did you select the 4K version.
@@clearlyed yes, 4k version on a 4k monitor at the refresh rate of the video frame rate, with no gpu noise reduction or color correction, compared to the "potato" channel it looks substancially more compressed, i noticed that your shots are really pushing the cameras since there areas with great amount of detail and relatively quick movements but i think it's substancially more co.pressed even when you take account the c200 scenes that shouldn't show as much.
@@clearlyed on the iphone i suspect you shot at 4k 60? Smart hdr is probably not working
Easily Camera 2 is the Cinema Camera... (Commented pausing at 2:14 while watching the video..)
Here's what I noticed in camera 2...
More Dynamic Range
Accurate/true to life color
Subject seperation/depth of objects
Details
No over-sharpen/ no over-saturation
Leaves....
There is something about leaves and textures... Looks great.... And cinematic....
Note that I watched this, at 30% brightness on a 1080p Full HD+ IPS screen 6inch phone... Device Pocophone F1...
At first glance, focal length makes me sure about Xs, after that, contrast, harsh in highlight area, some times the extra sharpness. Obviously because of better colour correction that u did was well enough for Xs to get confusion but less thn 5 seconds Xs was detected.
That sharpness though.. i wonder that at aleast iphone should include the setting in the phone to tune the sharpness, contrast, and many more. It doesnt matter if that menu included in the setting itself just for occasional professional use though.
The dynamic range for high end phone camera this day was so good that sometimes i'd rather grab my phone for everyday use rather than DSLR camera.. i think thats because their small sensor enable the processor to work in background to process the photo, unlike full frame or apsc camera that produced high bit rate and large file so the processor speed cannot keep up with the processing
and your shot is great, love it :)
Yeah, a lot of phones shoot way better videos and pictures if you turn off sharpening or use a third party camera app. It's sad, but it tricks people into believing there's more detail, but only when watching on the phone.
@@elsamuel695 yeah, but still camera phone works best when they see on phone screen only.. better slr camera, better video camera and better sensor work best on any screen (sometime its overkill too see on phone screen)
The iPhone does have all the editing options , you can add sharpness , contrast. Whatever you want. It’s a stock function thats built in
@@rypdx You can't turn the sharpness down, that's the issue. Contrast, sure, but not edge sharpening. If you tried editing it away, you'd get tons of artifacts and distortion. All iPhones do this since iPhone 7.
did you shoot 4k 60FPS? I don't think Smart HDR works in that format.
That was in 4K 60. And the dynamic range still looked awesome.
I think computational photography/Smart HDR is what mostly differentiates the XS camera from the X. If you tried 4k 30 FPS instead, you'd get even better results. Would be interesting to see how the highlights look at 3:05 with Smart HDR working.
try changing the setting to 30fps, you will get more dynamic range, iPhone will activate smart HDR in video and that might help you with the loss of detail in the highlights.
Photos In Color but in 30 FPS it looks much better
@@mueez.mp4 i don't think u need 4k 60fps everytime and 24 & 30 fps are enough to you better results
great video! iphone xs max looks sharper at first glance but when zoomed doesn't seem the case. Still probably best video camera on smartphones
I was super impressed
I can't tell if you're English or American, you seem to switch accents between words xD
youtube accent taking over.
Likes Australian
Uhmn what's the difference between an "english" and an american? Im curious
@Joshua English is from England. American is from America.
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IPhone xs really impressive.
I have to agree. I was not expecting the iPhone XS video to perform as well
Lmao I could tell the iPhone was camera 1 because the iPhone was mounted on top of the cinema camera and I tell the difference between who I’ve one was higher and lower
hahahahaha. well spotted. I was wondering when someone was going to notice. that. I wish I could have got the lenses closer together.
Bummer!! I noticed that first and then it was pretty obvious to spot other differences. But I gotta admit that if I hadn't noticed the height difference I would have had to really look closely to spot it. Looks like iPhone XS does a good job indeed.
iPhone is doing well against the c200. But when you zoom in and really compare them side by side, the c200 is far ahead.
Note that the XS Max doesn't use the close-up camera for taking video (unless you zoom in, maybe?) but this video looks like it was shot with the XS Max's wide-angle lens, which is the exact same lens found in the iPhone XR for like half the price, if any of you are thinking of getting one.
I only shoot with my iPhone 8 Plus & picked the 1st one immediately because of the camera glare it gives off. A bit of a nuisance but I deal with it afterwards!
Super video too!
Should have posted this video in 4k to TH-cam...
It is in 4K. You just have select it in the options. Some browsers don’t support 4K either so check on that.
The iphone was too Sharp
Tell me about it. Looking at the iPhone XS camera footage straight from camera it looked awesome on the hone but then it didn't look great once I tried to do anything with it. Basically its shot on a iPhone and looks awesome on an iPhone :)
Try blur.
Even have to do that to GH5 footage with sharpening dialed all the way down.
No problem with ARRI and Red cameras though.
$1500 iphone camera sucks... go for real camera or real smartphone (samsung)
@@saputrasaputra3347 or both
I am at 1 32 rn and i only eant to say that image stabilization sucks on this one. I don't know which cam is this tbh
First time watching your videos, but amazing and informative video!! Trying to learn more about videography and your stuff rocks!
I could be wrong, but from reading through tutorial from guys who shoot landscape photography. They use ND to tone down reflection and sharpness of leaves, water, and other objects during bright sunlight. The footage does seem to be overexposed, but maybe due to sunlight and wrong setting. Moment lens do carry ND filter attachment for some of their lenses for selected popular phones. As in phone vs professional grade cameras/camcorder, only people in that profession or OCD people can tell a difference. I’m not a pro or anywhere near it, but raw footage in front of a monitor is the only way I could tell a remarkable difference.
Iphone dynamic range comes from 2 or more combined frames with different shutter speed.
Which is completely amazing considering this is on a video and processed by a iPhone processor. So crazy. Imagineer if a cinema camera could do that.
Photos In Color the processor you need to do such a thing will cost another 2-3k plus the extra ram before you consider the power required. That’s double the price. In 5 years though when 7nm chips are mainstream it will be possible at max 5 k. This is actually what has held photo companies back, processors. That’s why Sony and Panasonic are so much ahead. The problem with cameras is that their lifecycle is very long so tech development cannot compete with phones or tablets,therefore they cannot refresh fast enough at reasonable cost. For example gopro wich is not such a demanding device got in real trouble once they completed on product cycle . Who needs to buy a new GoPro every two years?
You have the biggest tech company so of course their processing should be amazing. They cant compete with the sensor at all. So imagine what is in the future for bigger sensor cameras plus this processing. I could imagine a sony a7r6 with like 20 stops of DR and good colors
Stabilization is key. Why don't they mention anything about it?
Osiris bro you can easily get a stabilizer for iPhone too
I know that, it’s just that they don’t mention anything about stabilization.
Osiris maybe because he assumed that we are clever we know it logically 😂
I'm amazed 😉
Looked at this on my iPhone screen...not even in full screen and I could immediately tell the 1st one was an iPhone. Those lense flares were massive...covered the whole screen!. And even in your thumbnail I could see lots of fringing where the trees met the sky in the 1st one.
Thanks for the comparison. As you said the big difference is the creator behind the camera no matter if it’s an iPhone or C300 or a GoPro.. it’s nice to see these shoot outs though.
you can see the difference in the lens flares. 1. one iphone
Thats always the giveaway with a small lens iPhone. That being said the iPhone XS video has the sest flares I have seen on a phone. But nothing compared to a cinema camera.
That gave it away for me, too. But all things equal, the iPhone does a bang up job. When you compare the price...most people won't notice the difference enough to justify the cost.
Camera 2 is cinema,
because of the kind of lens flare,
and also because of the colours
of the sky.
well spotted.
Thought the same and that lens flare told me I was right ^^
im watching using my old CRT monitor so i could not tell which is which.. sad..
Awesome comparative!Excellent video!
I preferred the sharpness of the iPhone footage and also believe that, from a cost/benefit standpoint, there is no comparison between the two cameras. Great video - thanks!
"This would be pretty similars in a iPhone xs vs red cinmea camera or iPhone xs vs arri Alexa."
Please tell me you're joking.
IPhone XS Max was the 1st camera because the video looked over sharpening so that took it away
Tell me about it.
Great comparison! Indeed Cinema camera always win!😉👍
That's sick! I thought that the camera 2 was the iPhone XS Max
Have to admit I was duped in picking what vid was the iPhone. I guessed the first one, and blown away how good it looked.
Good comparison. Not a fan of iphones but that quality was pretty amazing. Still wouldn't get an iphone though.
hahaha. this was definitely not trying to change anyone option on what smartphone to buy. there is a lot more to think about than just the camera. But you are correct that the iPhone X camera quality is pretty impressive. But the Picel 3 is coming out. lets see how that does.
Don't know why but i liked iphone xs max shot much better than canon😓😓.
I am really impressed how the iPhone performed, really cool to see that gear really does not matter. It only helps.
Great video! I learned so much. Thanks!
The only thing I don’t like about the iPhone Xs video is that sometimes you can see weird artifacts due to software processing (probably the so called ai camera part) where the software tries to calculate how the image should look like and sometimes it fails...
Видно что Canon C200 снимает намного интереснее, с айфона картинка резкая, зашарпенная_)
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I've always been into the idea of filming a feature-length film on an iPhone tbh
Me too. It’s been done many times and the results are always impressive
@@clearlyed No they aren't lmao they look like trash
I figured camera 1 was the iPhone for 2 reasons:
1. The unintentional lens flare, which id presume the iPhone is more susceptible to.
2. The dynamic range. When she’s walking through the forest you can really see that contrast between light and shadow.
3. The textures on the ground when she’s on the log. Though not necessarily a BAD thing for the iPhone.. it’s software is able to detect and really bring out some of that detail on its own in a way that a human operator can’t always do without any effort.
There are definitely some ways in which the Phone will actually exceed the pro camera IMO. But the real glaring differences will almost always be how the cameras handle light.
In its ideal environment/lighting situation the phone will look better.. but as soon as it stays from that? No way..
I think many people down in comments took the video in the wrong way: i don't think anyone here wanted to tell us that an iphone could replace a professional camera, it's just amazing that it can record something that is COMPARABLE to anything shot by a Canon c200 (in daylight). Of course we will never see a blockbuster recorded with all iPhone XS, but still the result showed here are amazing for a camera phone and i think that's the whole focus of this video.
i know this is not the point of the video, ple please can someone tell me the model of the shoes at 0:26?
they are nike. you can tell by the big logo on the side.
Well they are nike lunarglide....but i don't know exactly whether they are lunarglide 8,9 or some other
Love this video! Just got my C200 ( ; I need your LUTZ my brother
Ray Charles could tell the iphone was the first one and pro camera was second.
hahahahaha. that made me laugh.
Ed don’t be so sure 😂
I think he could have heard the sharpening...
Because Ray Charles has that other kind of blindness.
Video is currently paused at 2:16. I think the first video is iPhone footage. Reasoning: details seem a bit to “digitally sharp”, seems like there’s less dynamic range in the sky (less details in cloud). I think 2 is the cinema camera due to the slightly “silkier” smoothness of the areas with lots of texture (eg twigs on ground) and more details / smoother gradients in sky & clouds. Cheeky though that you might have added lens flares in post on video 1 to make it seem like an “actual” lens was used^^ - Anyways, just my observations, going to continue watching now!
I could tell because of the artefacts in the leaves. On the Iphone they looked all mushy but on the C300 they looked crisp and nice.
I prefer sharpened images otherwise u can’t see nothing 😂
Amazing smartphone (iphone)
You've killed the footage with compression. Just compare your studio shots with your live footage - there's absolutely no detail on the live shots and a ton of detail on the studio ones. Dunno, was it TH-cam issue (too many trees are a nightmare for low bitrate), or you did kill the footage with compression on purpose, but it's a really bad example to tell the difference. When exposed properly lots of cameras nowadays show a little to none difference, even an iPhone 6s can be matched to Arri Alexa Mini in ideal conditions (sunny day on a beach, sunny day in the snowy mountains). Unless you underexpose your footage a tiny bit, or overexpose - that's where all the hell of a difference comes out. Cinema cameras (which Canon is obviously not, hence the naming) contain color accuracy across the range. And, at last - cinema cameras are meant to be viewed on a cinema screen. Size hugely matters, you see tons of details on a big screen, while viewing on your phone or tablet - you mostly see none at all.
Cool video. Thanks for making it!
It was very easy to tell that Camera 2 was the Canon, but only if you put in on 4K on TH-cam, because the 1080p Bitrate of TH-cam is too low for trees and such stuff. Then it is hard to tell an difference exept if you now you know to look for Sharpening artefacts etc..
Iphone shooting looks more GoPro-ing than ever
1 - iPhone, looked very digital
2 - smooth and much more life
Camera 2 was iPhone I guess
Thanks for the video! Useful!
Is true that the cinema camera is better but people are messing the point I think (it doesn’t really matter if is an iPhone, pixel or Samsung camera), they are evolving faster than normal cameras, you can get a seriously nice quality with a phone with a tiny sensor that u can get whatever you want because it fits on your pocket, that thing in your pocket every year is reaching the quality of a stand-alone camera just made it for that purpose. Plus with some apps you can record in log so u can get more freedom like a normal camera.
I saw exactly 10 seconds of your video, and this is NOT a cinema camera. Its a DIGITALcamera recording in CineFilm format. Get your titles right. So it is not an Iphone VS a CINEMA camera - its an Iphone vs a fancy digital camera with cool looking rigs.
You just made the dumbest statement in the history of statements. The camera he uses is definitely a cinema camera. It is even called Canon C200 Digital Cinema Camera. Litteraly has Cinema in title. Get your information right.
Ouch
It was easy
1st was iPhone
2nd is canon
Come on ... the difference is dynamic range is massive ... you people that cant see it are blind
I would agree. but its still impressive for a phone.
Awesome vid. The intro was crazy!
thanks for the shots, i just purchased a iphone xs max and looking to use it for video
Never seen a cinema camera performing so bad...!!! User error spotted...!!!
The first clip shown, without even seeing any footage from the other camera gave it away. The amount of sharpening on the iphone is CRAZY.
Just love your comparison !! Thanks for showing what my iPhone XS can do
Camera 2 was the cinema camera. The way the highlights blow out is what I look for, but I also haven’t seen how the iPhone holds up in good lighting.
For all people talking about "bad" quality in the Canon, just up the video resolution to 4k. It's probably something having to do with the youtube compression.
I guessed correctly. What gave it away was the extreme sharpening the iPhone does, but to be fair, the cameras on iPhones can do better than this, it's the software that tries to "blow up" the image that often makes it look bad. When I use a third-party app for shooting photos with my iPhone 7 which allows me to get a RAW shot, I get MUCH better results than what the default iOS Camera app can do.
1 is cinema, 2 is iPhone
Fabulous comparison!!! This was extremely Informative!!!! Keep up the good work and help us learn more and more!!!
Yeah that was easier to tell apart than I expected honestly. The dynamic range visible through the clouds in the sky gave it away. If it wasn't for that, you'd have to look a lot closer. Cool comparison!
Amazing and very educational.
Thank you
I had no idea which camera is which. Smart phone cameras have gotten so great now. If a person is creative he can really polish his/her skills with just a phone.
This is not a good comparison because you didn’t specify if you changed any of the settings on the iPhone XS. The camera on the iPhone has several different resolution options in the settings from 720p - 4K. This would be a better comparison if you shot in 4K 24fps or 60fps.
Most of the time in these Red Dragon vs iPhone or Arri Alexa vs iPhone videos, it’s 1) Depth of field that gives it away 2) Dynamic Range 3) Highlight Rolloff.
But you shot that C300 at some f12 or something to take DOF away. And the XS’s dynamic range is 3-4 stops better than the 2017 iPhone X, so it’s actually a good bit harder to tell that.
Not TOO many sun shots where highlight roll off is viewed, but I’d have to say this video it’s the darks that gave it away. iPhone’s shadows were like a cliff, no info in the darks it seemed like. But the C300 faded into the darks gradually. Seemed less contrasty.
It’s gonna be a lot harder to tell going forward.
God forbid Apple puts an iPhone’s computing power behind an APSC or Super 35 Sensor that can capture in CinemaDNG or ProRes 444 even. It’ll change the damn world.
*pausing video* im guessing the first clip was of the iphone and the second is of the c200 there is an obvious difference when viewing at fullscreen, when not fullscreen you cant see "much difference" which is actually wild
It truly is amazing how amazing video can be produced on a phone. Even though a phone will never replace a true camera, the images are amazing.
Great video man!
Excellent video topic!
I have not seen the answer, but my guess is that the first was the iPhone, because I saw more MPEG artifacts, especially around the actress’ hair. The second looked more “soft-focus.”
Great comparison . loved this video
Thank you for the comparison.
Wow..great video mate..tks for showing us how well does the iphone Xs work ..👍