Dry Fire Mag review (it works, but is it worth it?)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ย. 2024
- My take on the Dry Fire Mag dry fire simulation device. It's good... but is it worth it? (P.S. the click isn't usually as loud or annoying as it seems on video. my apologies!)
As a competitive shooter, I’m alsways looking for products that would help me increase my speed (steel challenge/USPSA). This thing doesn’t drop free to help with reloads. This thing does not reset the sear/striker, so it can’t be used with a laser trainer. Lastly, this thing doesn’t simulate the actual trigger feel, so it’s useless to practice with. If it was free it would still be a waste of time. At $100, it’s insane!! Thanks for a great review on a useless product. Exactly why I consult TH-cam before I make purchases like this!! Good job, good video!!
weird i dont even see any videos on your page of you shooting ? You should post your USPSA number so I can tell if your opinion of it is worth it ? What class are you shooting in?
If you do IPSC/USPSA and want a garage / backyard training tool, I highly recommend getting a gas blowback airsoft gun of the exact same model, especially when ammo price is so high.
@cardboardoperator7213 weird that you think anyone would have to provide you with any of that information Ken. He is entitled to his opinion just like you and all were really good points.
I like it, I use my red dot and it helps.
Can you use this mag reset in combination with a laser ?
100% useful! I am a firearms instructor for a major Police Department and have used it to great and quantifiable success. It’s a tool… use it as such. With proper direction with respect to the fundamentals, it does in fact help.
I will say, I used it for a year straight in classes and dry firing… probably 30,000 presses along with a Mantis X. It broke in a year, due to said usage.
IMHO, well worth the 100 bucks.
Good idea to dry fire. Nice not to have to rack slide all the time, but I just don't think it is for me. If it was 39.99 I'd probably buy it. Not for $100.
Exactly. It's pretty steep for what you get.
...me too...
Made in USA, not China👍🏋️
Does it have a laser and an app or is this only the mag?
I’d buy if $15
Too expensive. They should rather drop the price to 40 bucks and they would sell 20 times the volumes. Dont think their cost lies in the product but in their overhead costs so selling more would help them. Cant bring myself to justify that cost. Thanks for the review.
I’d go $20. It’s plastic and a spring.
@Trippy_Trolls Hopefully without sounding rude, saying "polymer not cheap plastic" is a little like saying "I want a fruit, not an apple". All plastics are polymer and polymer doesn't mean plastic. Some plastic are extremely strong and expensive to produce, and some polymer are cheap and weak, many brands decided to adopt the word "polymer" because it sounds fancy, but in reality it tells you very little.
I was about to “pull the trigger” on this one. Then I heard you pull yours... I’m good. Thanks for the video
I was considering this product because I wanted to develop muscle memory with my Glock 17. Having to constantly rack the slide would’ve been counterproductive to that goal. But I’m surprised of the build quality for its price. I appreciate you telling us that it doesn’t truly replicate the actual trigger pull either, and that it doesn’t really seat into the mag well like a factory magazine. I guess I’ll pass on this too. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
Thanks for doing the only honest review I've found on this thing. Their marketing "feels" scammy, and leans heavily on "multiple shots" while never actually claiming it resets the trigger, so I suspected it was something along these lines. Your video is the only one I've found that actually shows the mechanism at work, so thank you!
Buy once, cry once. I’ve had mine for over two years now with no issues. Works as advertised. Review is spot on. It is NOT the be all end all but you get what you put into your dry fire practice. I practice my straight back trigger pulls, double taps, and site alignment. You can get a very clear picture of exactly what your muzzle is doing at the moment the trigger breaks - very important to me. Especially useful for dry fire motion practice where you are on the move and helps build your timing skills. You also don’t wear out your gun parts with constant slide racking. Just my two cents. 👍🏻👍🏻
You are the second commentator to mention dry fire motion practice where you are on the move and help build your timing skills. Sounds good!
With a Glock you can open the slide & put something at the back on the side to hold it open about an 1/8th inch or so & trigger will move back & forth. I used a zip tie folded in half, bit thin cardboard folded or whatever you come up with will work, Like others I was interested in the DFM until I saw the price.
Works excellent along side my MantisX X10. Definitely has improved my grip and trigger press skills!!
Hello. I purchased one for use with my MantisX X10. Any suggestions on which drills and or settings to use or avoid for the best use of my Mantisx practice. Setting it up tomorrow.
Very helpful. Thank you!
An airsoft gun like an Umarex G17 seems like an adequate alternative, given that they're both around $100.
Also, the Umarex G17 takes 12g Co2 canisters; which will simulate recoil.
Don't even need the BBs.
Just a thought.
I agree. I use the g19x umarex/vfc
I’m glad you fixed your clock.
By popular demand. I never actually use it which is why it's been dead for so long.
J Helmsing that’s really funny. I didn’t realize people had been noticing it. I was cracking up over the fact you put a sign with it.
Three years later and sill bringing value. Saved me $100. Appreciate the video!
$100 for a clicker???
Thank you for doing this review, just saved me $100. I definitely won't be buying this gimmick
I don't think people understand what effective dry fire practice is. No dry fire method is going to mimic your gun's functioning, including trigger pull, precisely. It's impossible. Pulling the trigger and racking, pull and rack, pull and rack - that is such a bad way to practice. It doesn't matter if your trigger pull during dry fire (any method, not just this DryFireMag) isn't the same as your gun's in live fire (or your first pull after racking the slide.) Seriously, it does not matter. That's not the purpose. Get Ben Stoeger's book on dry fire. It's the best guide out there. No one shoots/racks, shoots/racks, shoots/racks a self-defense situation or IDPA match, why on earth are you doing this when you practice? When it's time to act, people fall back to their training. Under stress skills degrade. If you dry fire far more than you live fire, which should be how you practice, why are you training your mind and your muscles to rack after every shot? Do you need to be confused or focused under stress? Pull/rack, pull/rack, pull/rack - you are missing out on practicing follow-up shots, moving, scanning, etc. Train properly. It could save your life.
There are two excellent methods for dry fire that I've found - this DryFireMag and the SIRT pistol, which costs 3-4 times as much as a DryFireMag. I also have a Mantis X10, and combined with DryFireMag, you have feedback out the yin yang showing you what you're doing right and wrong. A Mantis X10 is about $250. With a DryFireMag, that's $350 total. How much are you flushing down the toilet at the range? I didn't know how wasteful I was until I got my head out of my rear and learned how to dry fire effectively, after taking classes by a few world class instructors. Dry fire is practice, live fire is your test. Practice effectively for the test and you'll do better on the test and you'll stop wasting ammo.
I’d like to see someone do a better version that replicates the actual trigger pull.
They sure do sell it as a miracle solution to dry firing(and they nearly had me) but in the end the only thing that can replicate the actual feel of dry firing IS dry firing. Thanks for the run down
I tend to agree, but this is good for specific things like rapid fire strings still no real replacement for the nuances that make up trigger pull.
The point of this (I have it) is it shows you where your shots are hitting. Dry fire without shot placement isn’t that helpful. This has improved my shooting tremendously
Was about to jump on this, but then heard the price. From then on, seemed like a carnival gun and I fell out of love.
I like to use the KWA ATP Glock 17 airsoft training pistol. You can use it with or without the plastic pellets. Great training aid if you have two of them to practice active killer training.
Appreciate your straight forward review. So close to purchasing the DryMag until I saw the review. I really wanted to purchase this mag so I wouldn't have to rack the slide each time when in use with my SureStrike Laser I purchased a few years ago. I also found out the SureStrike Laser I have does not work with this mag, as my current SureStrike laser is activated by the firing pin. Since the DryMag does not reset the firing pin/striker, it won't work. However, they have an option to purchase a SureStrike laser that can be used with it that does not need the firing pin/striker to reset. However, the cost of the DryMag and new type laser is cost prohibitive. The other details you provided (pros/cons) were excellent.
Great review... you have answer mostly all my questions about the mag.... it's really expensive... Thank you showing the real thing
It is expensive but I got a $20 coronavirus19 discount and bought it. Thank you for a well thought out review. Just as you explain, "A supplement to dryfire practice."
Are there any laser cartridges to use with these dfm?
Yeah it's disgusting how expensive it is.
Agreed!
Better get to in case you drop one and break it I got a dog clicker that's about the same thing
Extremely helpful review. Thanks. Not sure whether I'll be purchasing this thing, but it's good to have the info/insight you've provided. Well done.
For people complaining about price. Everything gun related has an inflated price. You think a flash light is worth 140 bucks just because you can mount it to your gun? Cmon people.
You're trying to compare apples to oranges light is going to work the same look the same do the same job this thing totally misses the mark big difference
If you don’t care about the “click,” you can just put a piece of paracord in the slide to stop it from going to full battery.
I use a airsoft gun with about the same triggerpressure. Here in the Netherlands the pistol needs to be behind lock and key at home only or on a bench for maintenance. Airsoft is allowed when you have a membership of an airsoft club . Try this and see what you think , take a PVC tube of about a yard and fill one end loosely with cottonwool the diameter of the tube varies according your confidence and skill level. That tube is your target mine is suspended with cables so you can rock it and the target moves , my dist. from the tube is 2,5 yds (sorry I do not have a bigger room). And my wife does not like those pellets everywhere. Load the airsoft pistol and take aim at the tube and fire. And if you want to go into detail at what is happening film it . OH and don't forget good eye protection. Try it before you make fun of it see how well airsoft translates to shooting.
ABSOLUTELY WORTH IT. screw all of you who complained about the noise. Dry practice is basically make believe shooting. The price and construction are valid concerns, not the noise. Cocking the gun each time is much worse than practicing with this thing.
I have a rds on my pistol so i can see the dot bouncing around depending on my grip
The thing I like is that it does NOT have you rack the slide. It saves on that area and does not ingrain the slide racking habit into your training regimen. It is good, but the $100 is a bit much.... I don't recommend it anymore as the price kills it.
Really glad i watched this. Between the price and the fact that its not an actual trigger pull, I don't think i'll be picking this up. Thanks for the review
Trying to watch this at work and everyone’s like what is that damn clicking noise
It's obnoxious 😂
Good review but it's old now. The newer model (as of 12/2019) comes with different springs to be able to adjust your tension. Those that may not know.
Start watching at 1:45
@@twotwentyswift Yes, now they have like 5 springs, but honestly, they don't feel different LOL
@@ericwilkins49455, wow! They probably sourced them from 5 different suppliers and they're all supposed to be different but they're not, lol!
Are there any laser cartridges to use with these dfm?
Buy once, cry once. I’ve had mine for over two years now with no issues. Works as advertised. Review is spot on. You get what you put into your dry fire practice. I practice straight back trigger pulls, double taps, and site alignment. You can get a very clear picture of what your muzzle is doing at the moment you pull the trigger. Especially useful for dry fire motion practice where you are on the move and helps build your timing skills. Just my two cents. 👍🏻👍🏻
I definitely don't care for the Dry Fire Mag. I had one for 2 weeks and sent it back. Now I already own several SIRT Pistols so they offer a much better simulation albeit with a few minor draw backs but all in all better than the DFM. Some of my clients asked me about the DFM and I tell them I don't care for it and then send them your review and let them make their decision. Excellent review
I didn’t know this product existed, thanks for the review!
I'll just go with the E trigger. It doesn't have the same tension but for muscle memory practice it does the trick . Plus it's way cheaper and I can do mag changes with my magazine and dummy rounds
Can you provide a link for e trigger?
Fantastic review, just saved me $100. I'd rather work the slide all day long and get a real trigger pull. Was going to match it with a laser target system but now think I'll just stick with my kids PlayStation game which is pretty much the same thing.
I think when combined with MantisX DryFireMag could really be useful in building basic skills.
This is my plan lol
100+ 150. The bluetooth one is like 300 so it’s 300+150. So im good
Much rather have the cool fire trainer ofcourse its expensive but is actually useful and looks like alot of fun too
Thanks for running us through this Jay. Not exactly what I was hoping for. I can do the same thing with my dry fire training cords but without the sound effect.
I was hoping it reset the firing pin for my lazer round. Sucks having to rack the slide every time!
Thanks for the info on the use. I was getting ready to buy two for mag change drills.
I can train my parrot with that clicker.
Should be called "Sort of Simulates Dry Firing Mag" and really only beneficial for Glocks with their DAO "SAFE" trigger that goes dead after firing (no trigger return spring).
It works, I went from a C shooter to an A shooter in USPSA IN 6 months, don’t knock it till you try it.
$100 for this is nuts. I am going to attempt converting a real mag into a dry fire one.
Howe’s that go for you
Did you finish that?
Will pay to have you convert a mag for me...
@@masterofnone1481 sure, $300
Pavel Lyssenko 🤦♂️
You don’t really need that device to simulate dry firing. Dummy rounds is the best device to practice the physical mechanics of how to use your own gun.
Exactly, it gives you good dry fire practice with your carry gun. The real gun weight and muscle memory.🔫
You can also get a dry fire trigger group from the glock store in San Diego.
Or just put a card between your breachface and your barrel and you can press off multiple shoots! You also can’t do reloads with a Dryfire mag!!
hundreds of dollars worth of entertainment and training value. it's worth many times its price in videogames, movies, books... AMMO.
If they included a laser bullet, target and app then it would be worth it.
Bought this on amazon, returning it right away. This is NOT dry fire training. I worry more about training scars and taking yourself further away from the true feeling of the triggers pull weight, the striker actually operating, etc. This is truly no good. Remember, Practice doesnt make perfect, practice makes permanent.. inly perfect practice makes perfect.. this is far from perfect and while it eas a cool idea, i truly wouldnt use this even if it was free. It was $100 so I'm kinda annoyed i didnt watch more vids on this before buying it. This product is nothing like the blackbeard system from mantis. Hopefully they will figure out how to properly reset the trigger and cycle the slide. For anyone whos looking for something that really does cycle the slide and simulate real dry fire training, i highly suggest the cool gire trainor, which is a co2 system that uses a barrel replacement made for your model. Its a nearly perfect training system that replicates real live fire training with full trigger reset and slide cycling. As of now, i do not know of anything better than the coolfire trainer.
I think you should click it a few more times. Not sure I understand that it clicks.
Another video shows someone using a piece of paper to stop the glock from fully going forward in the slide and you can pull the trigger. I'm going to do that although it is a tad worse since the trigger has practically no resistance. But it's a step down from this but up $100!
Great review and thank-you for your insights.
is that the DIY workbench from the Family Handyman magazine????
I didn't know this product existed. All excited I looked on their website. I soon realized why nobody knows they exist. One look at the price on their website and they say NOPE!
It is salty for sure.
agreed. it's over priced. I'd buy it if it was around 30 or 40, but 100 is definitely too much.
I dunno if you frequent Glock Store but he has dry fire systems for glocks that will reset automatically and do much more than this dry fire magazine. Theres systems with a laser or without . I think it might be better for what you need your gun to do.
Yeah if you want to spend double the $$ than the actual gun you own. Prob is with these systems is that they are made for a small population, so the mfgr doesnt see a return on time put in to create it for a lonnng time therefore thinks theyre justified with charging a crazy cost. I dont know the ultimate answer, but this device should not be $100. If they dropped this to 60 theyd sell 100s thousands and make up their R/D in a shorter amnt of time. $100 is ridiculous for what it is and made up of.
Would you bug again knowing what you know now? That is my question. I feel like the price is steep for a clicker, but like you said might be more to the interals
Have you ever used with laser ammo vibration laser Cartridge?
Thanks for sharing. Very good information. I wish the price would drop.
Outstanding video review. Thanks for posting. 👍
VERY GOOD TRUE REVIEW ON THIS PRODUCT
So, it does not have a felt inertia like feel of the striker going forward. I’m with 198ster. It’s not even worth it for free.
It’s okay but for the price no ! It’s very limited for training. Your review was so very good !
It's a dang clicker mounted inside of a Mag... You may as well just pull on the dead trigger. I bet it doesn't even work with the laser target systems... Which is were I would see a benefit., since the laser target systems require you to re-cock before each shot. Way too expensive for the asking price. Thanks for the great video and saving us a C note...
product seems well intentioned and trying to fill a niche but for me the mechanism and price are off. the nature of an autoloader it's tough to simulate repeated shots with dry fire
Great review, thank you!
Does it replicate the slack that's in a Glock trigger?
I am surprised they don't make one for canik
Sorry, but not for the $100.00 they cost. I'll use my old Frog Clicker from when I was 6. Yes, I still have it and yes, it still clicks correctly.
I feel like I could build this myself...hmmm Ar dryfire mag would be cool to build
I am a new to gun and while I was practicing dry firing I had the magazine in. Not the magazine you have but just regular magazine that came with the gun. Is it okay? Hopefully no damage was done.
It's okay, But put a dry fire cap (plastic bullet) or a laser ammo, Just to garantee no damage is done
@@diogoazevedo8810 thanks for your help.
Very well done video, thanks
Thank you for this! I almost spent 100 bucks on it and no thanks... probably worth half that IMO
Thanks for the review
If your getting a totally different pull and break point on thr trigger with the mag vs. without it to me its totally pointless and u wont learn a thing. The benifit is it turns your gun into a very expensive toy
will a laser bullet work with it for iTarget
GREAT Review!! Thank you
Thanks for the review. I am glad i decided to pass on this. Will just stick to manually cockinh the gun
I wish I had watched this before I bought one. I do have a better understanding of how my gun works now though. So I guess it’s both a win and a loss.
Great review
You can buy it with a laser you always going to hook it up to your mantis
Their web site never tells you that it racks your gun or resets the trigger. It goes into detail about how it works. it's worth about 50 bucks I would say and why would anyone throw it around? Beats the hell out of just using your Glock as a dry fire tool. It's just way over priced.
I am so torn. On one hand it is a great tool on other it should cost more than 30 bucks.
Are these just for glocks or do they make them for other guns?
They are $20 off these days. I just got one for my M&P 9.
Yep, still hesitant to buy though...
Are there any laser cartridges to use with these dfm?
@@eatalittle no. The striker wouldn't hit the laser cartridge while using the DFM anyway since it isn't being used.
My ruger SR9 says they made it so that you can dry fier without wearing out the parts I will soon. Find out.
I wouldn't recommend it, have one as well
Everything wears out, just use gun oil or grease on the trigger and barrel hood
I need the striking pin to hit my laser bullet. So this will not work for me. So what will work?
LaserLyte Trainer Pistol? Costs a little more than this product, but you get a laser indicator.
www.amazon.com/LaserLyte-Trainer-familiar-RESETTING-training/dp/B00PB7HLGS/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=laserlyte&qid=1570319973&s=sporting-goods&sr=1-6
good god $100...... Thats really cool and innovative that they figured out how to have multiple trigger pulls and all.... but it needs to be $25 - $40..... not $100... i'll go get ammo first.
You can have it all if its designed right
I spend a fortune on such items because I'm a sucker for trying everything out But I'll pass on this in that it is over priced at $100.00 plus. I don't think that it will be very durable and it will break down.
D day cricket ..flash/thunder those 101st Airborn men on D-Day had this
So glad I watched this first. Far too expensive for what it does.
I decided to save 100 bucks and just say "click" out loud when I pull the trigger.
Thanks for the video. You just saved me $90
Multiple shots without recoil doesn’t seem to be good practice at all. $39. Is what it should be. I still then wouldn’t want to buy it.
Joey G consecutive multiple shots is what I was referring to. Not the dry firing practice of rack shoot rack shoot.
Good review.
J, umm, have you ever had a 3.5 trigger pull and is it recommended for a carry gun?
Yes, and no.
@@jhelmsing ... cool-cool ...
@@j.p.5855 the question was is it recommend. The answer is no, I don't recommend a 3.5 lb carry trigger in a striker fired gun (I do, however, have some sa/da guns that go below that in single action that I carry). I have several reasons for that recommendation. My opinion is not the be all end all as you mentioned. To each their own. I am a full-time LEO, 17 year military veteran with multiple combat deployments, USPSA competitor and three time Army national marksmanship competitor. I don't lead with any of that, but you asked. That said, credentials don't usually mean very much. Some of the most incorrect people I've ever met were highly decorated and had credentials to throw around.
@@j.p.5855 ... cool man. I'm switching to a 3.5 and I'm going with Apex. I already installed Tritium night sights and have a killer Tungsten guide rod and a simple Hogue grip. I have all these features on my Glock 17L. My 9mm Shield however, had night sights when I bought it. I haven't really been practicing with my Shield either, I know that's not good, considering I carry it more than my Kimber K6S, which I just sold recently because it tended to skip rounds during rapid firing.
My Ruger PC carbine was fun until it started jamming after only five boxes of ammo. It also suffered a lot of damage where the extraction process occurs. The cartridges were scratching the shit out of the door in the front and where it closes. I'm fresh with rifles but I think when I do find a good AR I'll go with an S&W or a Colt. I want to own a 223, 556 and a 308 rifle eventually. Shot guns are fun but my old man body is having problems with the old rotater cuff syndrome. They are fun to shoot but I'm gonna have to learn how to hold that damn thing.
I swear by CLP too. That stuff is the best cleaner and lubricator I have ever used. I use it on my sewing machine also. If my body armor passes all the tests I'm gonna be contacting you in the future. God Jay, you remind me of this dude in town that works at a Chevy parts warehouse. I think he's your doppelganger ...lol... You two talk the same way. Anyways, peace out Homer.
oops, I got the Jay's mixed up. Oh well, good advice man, thanks.