To my ears through the headphone they both sound great; the Cleo has a bell-like chime and sparkle on the high frequencies whereas the Sage is more mid-focused and resonant on the mid/low frequencies. It's ultimately a question of preference as to which one suits your ears/applications the best.
Man. I bought a cheap mini guitar for my daughter from orangewood. I love it and want a higher range from ow. I really prefer the feel and look of the satin finish, but really like the inlays on the Cleo. I want a Sage with all the premium bling.
Thanks for the demo, Dave. But uhuh orangewood isn't shipping to europe! A lot of us are waiting here to buy these beautiful instruments! Come on guys (and girls) from Orangewood, there's a giant market waiting for you!
Haha yeh, I think it is a big shame they don’t ship elsewhere yet. I think they’re just focusing on nailing the process in one market first. I agree though. Massive market for them elsewhere. The quality and affordability would be very popular in other countries.
@@GuitarZero2Hero Thought so. Big Prine fan over here. Part of me thinks Orangewood (as well as the PRS SE acoustic line) is made at the Cort factory. Both the Sage and Cleo look very similar to the Cort Gold A6. Good quality is good quality no matter where it's made.
The Cleo to me sounds fresher and louder which appeals to me for fingerpicked tunes. The Sage is a more mellow sound. Although still nice I prefer the Cleo.
@@GuitarZero2Hero would be awesome to teach us some original pieces you create time to time. The fingerstyle picking you did on this video made me want to learn your pattern so bad !! 😯
@@GuitarZero2Herour amazing i wasn't expecting a response, hey i hope you have a great time what ever is going on remember that you make people happy and make them feel great wel at least me.
I really like the new logo- the old logo is maybe the only thing I didn't care for about Orangewood. Hope they start putting it on their older models also but maybe it's just for the Topanga range..
Sorry if i am bothering you, but my capo works for the upper frets but the further i move it down the fretboard one of the outer strings escape from the grip of the Capo and that string is muted. You wouldnt happen to know what type of capo i need for my dreadnought guitar?
The sage just edges it. Both great sounding. I love Orangewood guitars but the chance of trying one in person, here in the UK, is pretty much next to none. I keep delaying upgrading from my Epiphone DR100 because nothing available in the UK matches Orangewood guitars for the price.
How's the action of the guitar, how tall are the bridge inlays? And are there spacers underneath the bridge inlays, or do the inlays have to filed down if lower action is desired?
That "mother of pearl" rosette and back strip looks suspiciously like abalone, but both are beautiful materials to use - much better than the fake "perloid" the big name guitar makers use, even on their expensive guitars. I love my mahogany Sage, wanted a mahogany top or I would have opted for the Cleo.
Your videos are very good and i ve learned much songs with you. Do you know where i can find the tabs for Eric Johnson All things you are ? Or can you make the tutorial ? Thanks 🤘🎸
Hey Dave what strings do you like to throw on your Orangewoods? I switched the Ernie balls to some custom light d'addarios xts on my sage TS, because the medium lights were a little too heavy for me, but now the low end sounds kind of muted. What strings would work well to bring that low end out?
@@GuitarZero2Hero okay thanks i had a W14 taylor and loved its tone. But like a fool I sold it. I have a 914 taylor now but not overly in love with the rosewood compared to the walnut
Hi, is it possibile to connect this guitar to an amp or an audio interface? I can never figure it out by just looking at it, especially if the specifications say Electronics: N/A
These would compare price wise and specs with the Cort Gold A6 and A8 series. How do they compare in your opinion? I've seen you've done a few videos with the Cort Gold.
I think they’re very close, but would have to say the Cleo wins out, the set up on it makes it much easier to play. I think the Cort Gold probably looks nicer though and is still and excellent guitar that also has inbuilt electronics so maybe better value when you factor that in.
@@GuitarZero2Hero Thanks for the answer! I would says also that the neck on the Cort has reinforcement that probably Orangewood doesn't + Double lock neck joint... I've got my Gold O6 on a great discount, so it was like $650, insane GUITAR for the money...
@@GuitarZero2Hero I compared them now and the Orangewood has a 44mm nut while the Cort has 45 mm, so wider. Did you feel the difference on the neck? The Cort also says UV finish that means a very thin one, that should improve the sound...
You've not mentioned strings gauge, neck radius, frets size and materials, is it open tuners as Cleo's?? If frets aren't stainless steel and rounded ends?? Then it isn't worth it. Frets will not last long if they're not stainless steel, they should be for price of today's that's over 1075$
Like your playing and demo. But must say I never have liked a mismatched top on a guitar. The one you were playing has two different color tones. That's a turn off for me. Other than that, I hope to find one to try out at local area music stores.✌
Very similar ballpark, I think I prefer this over Cort Gold. The setup was done VERY well. Cort comes stock with electronics though so there’s pros and cons.
@@GuitarZero2Hero there is Gold 8 series which uses that wood too but value for money considering with electronics.. ya Cort guitar action is high for finger style..I got mine lowered to 1.75mm on low e..😁..considering to upgrade to Torrefied full solid..😁
I am actually so mad.. I want Orangewood guitars so badly but they refuse to ship to South Africa! So sad and mad, its so hard to get good well priced guitars in South Africa!
Hi Iain, its not just South Africa they refuse to ship, I've tried twice to buy an Orangewood guitar and have it shipped to the UK no joy. Looks like they can only ship internationally to TH-cam reviewer's, the only answer is to start you're own YT guitar channel get plenty of views and Orangewood will send you one free of charge, or do what I did and buy another brand. I bought a Faith guitar and I love it.🇬🇧
Faith are great! But yes it is unfortunate that they don’t ship internationally at this time. Who knows, that might change one day if they see more comments like this. Thanks guys!
@@GuitarZero2Hero Hi Dave. I just like to say I think your site is one of the best guitar tutorial sites out there and you have an excellent teaching manner. I hope you did not take any offence of my previous comment, l like to see reviews of guitars especially when done well👍. But it's just annoying and frustrating to see a guitar being reviewed and not be able to buy it. Anyway keep up the good work, Del. Ps sorry if it sounded a little sarky about Iain setting up his own site to get an Orangewood, envy is a ugly trait.😁
Beautiful as always! We love the comparison of Cleo and Sage.
Thanks Orangewood - well done on the new range, I have no doubt players will love it.
I went ahead and ordered the Cleo Live. Good Job Orangewood!
To my ears through the headphone they both sound great; the Cleo has a bell-like chime and sparkle on the high frequencies whereas the Sage is more mid-focused and resonant on the mid/low frequencies. It's ultimately a question of preference as to which one suits your ears/applications the best.
Thank you for the video and the comparison of the two modles! I enjoy your videos
You're amazing at what you do, David! I literally went from guitar zero to hero because of your amazing tutorials. Love what you do =D
The Sage is clearly an Amazing Guitar however my ear liked the Cleo much better. I went ahead and ordered the Cleo Live. Excellent review.
Thanks Michael - Hope you enjoy it!
Thank you very much, especially for the comparison between the Cleo and Sage.
My pleasure!
The way you play is wonderful no matter what guitar you have 👍🏻 thank you for your videos
Thanks Daniel
Great discussion. Came back for a second viewing.
Sup Dave huge fan!!! Thanks to you I’ve learned guitar and made it so far!!! Thank youuu
Thanks Jason!
Orangewood is a brand that I have had my eye on for a while. Thank You for such a very very good review. Sold !!!!! :)
Great playing Dave. My first new guitar was a Morgan mahogany. Loved it so much I bought the Ava. Amazing.
how do you like the Ava ? Mahogany ?
Man love the guitars but love the strumming and licks more. Do we have tutorials for these?
Cheers, Dave!
beautiful sounds for both guitars
That's a pretty good demo ngl I'd watch a tutorial for that
Cheers David 💪
Thanks Matias
@@GuitarZero2Hero Can you please make it happen? I would watch it too :)
Man. I bought a cheap mini guitar for my daughter from orangewood. I love it and want a higher range from ow. I really prefer the feel and look of the satin finish, but really like the inlays on the Cleo. I want a Sage with all the premium bling.
No matter what guitar you play, the rythms are just great!
Can you make a tutorial for the demo at the beginning
First here 🇮🇳Indian
Love from india ❤
I actually prefer the look and sound of the Sage but both seem great!
For the price this is a beautiful sounding guitar!
Love orangewood, I bought my first acoustic from them (morgan mahogany live) and absolutely love it! Sounds amazing for the price.
Agreed, great value!
You're finger style playing is so....good sensei...👍🏻👍🏻❤️
Thanks!
@@GuitarZero2Hero ur welcome sensei😁😉
Thanks for the demo, Dave. But uhuh orangewood isn't shipping to europe! A lot of us are waiting here to buy these beautiful instruments! Come on guys (and girls) from Orangewood, there's a giant market waiting for you!
Haha yeh, I think it is a big shame they don’t ship elsewhere yet. I think they’re just focusing on nailing the process in one market first. I agree though. Massive market for them elsewhere. The quality and affordability would be very popular in other countries.
The low E has a dull thud, which is common for orangewood. And I am not talking about the palm mutes
Nice review. Still trying to convince myself to pull the trigger on a solid body orangewood.
Such a good demo!
I hope you can teach Coldplay 'let somebody go' using this guitar!
Is that a little bit of In Spite of ourselves by John Prine around the 5:56 mark?
Sure is!
@@GuitarZero2Hero Thought so. Big Prine fan over here. Part of me thinks Orangewood (as well as the PRS SE acoustic line) is made at the Cort factory. Both the Sage and Cleo look very similar to the Cort Gold A6. Good quality is good quality no matter where it's made.
What were you playing at the first fingerpicking part? Sounds lovely
Just made it up!
@@GuitarZero2Hero very impressive wow!!
@@GuitarZero2Hero the start sounds scarily similar to penguins by Ed sheeran
@@GuitarZero2Hero sounded amazing
Orangewood guitars are far and away, the best value in guitars today.... I love them, and would have every model, if I could afford it..... (-:
Great video! Can you answer a question please? How does it compare to a Taylor guitar of $2000 or less? I would greatly appreciate it!
Hi Dave where do you buy orange wood guitar in Australia
Leigh
The Cleo to me sounds fresher and louder which appeals to me for fingerpicked tunes. The Sage is a more mellow sound. Although still nice I prefer the Cleo.
Great job !!!!!!
Orangewoods are fantastic. I own one myself!
i am confused between orangewood cleo,taylor 114ce and breedlove pls tel which one should i buy. i want a all rounder guitar with doog bass
Good love to learn the song you played in the beginning ! What is the name of this song? So beautiful
I just made it up :)
@@GuitarZero2Hero would be awesome to teach us some original pieces you create time to time. The fingerstyle picking you did on this video made me want to learn your pattern so bad !! 😯
@@GuitarZero2Hero thanks for your great channel, gotta second the idea of a lesson on that piece- sounds great!
Great playing.
Thank you :)
That second flatpicking was AMAZING !!! Whats it Called how do u play it I NEED IT!! Also Greet video’s mate love them all keep it going
Thanks mate! Was just a blues shuffle I came up with :)
@@GuitarZero2Herour amazing i wasn't expecting a response, hey i hope you have a great time what ever is going on remember that you make people happy and make them feel great wel at least me.
Thanks so much, one of the kindest comments I’ve received! Appreciate it 😀
Nice guitar I love these kind of videos
I really like the new logo- the old logo is maybe the only thing I didn't care for about Orangewood. Hope they start putting it on their older models also but maybe it's just for the Topanga range..
Comparison with your Cort Gold A6 please. Look similar with this
Sorry if i am bothering you, but my capo works for the upper frets but the further i move it down the fretboard one of the outer strings escape from the grip of the Capo and that string is muted. You wouldnt happen to know what type of capo i need for my dreadnought guitar?
wow! Sounds lovely! No matter what guitar you play, the rhythm are just great!Done Sub.
The sage just edges it. Both great sounding. I love Orangewood guitars but the chance of trying one in person, here in the UK, is pretty much next to none. I keep delaying upgrading from my Epiphone DR100 because nothing available in the UK matches Orangewood guitars for the price.
Yes it’s unfortunate they don’t ship overseas yet. Have you tried the Cort gold range? Some nice guitars at a good price point
@@GuitarZero2HeroNo shipping available for Canada too!😢
Please make a guitar tutorial for Calvin harris by your side (acoustic version)
How's the action of the guitar, how tall are the bridge inlays? And are there spacers underneath the bridge inlays, or do the inlays have to filed down if lower action is desired?
nice review as always :)
what was the first song in the flat picking part?
Babe I’m gonna leave you by Led Zeppelin:)
Beautiful guitar 🎸
That "mother of pearl" rosette and back strip looks suspiciously like abalone, but both are beautiful materials to use - much better than the fake "perloid" the big name guitar makers use, even on their expensive guitars. I love my mahogany Sage, wanted a mahogany top or I would have opted for the Cleo.
Hey Dave I wanted your suggestion because I want to buy a semi acoustic guitar And my budget is from 200$ to 250$
Check out the FA-125 or FA-125CE
@@jorgealcala3121 Thanks for you suggestion bro
No Fender CD-60S best guitar at this price range, I think
@@suleymanalpkatar6054 yeah that's good as well, but it's more expensive than the FA-125, the FA-125 just suits Sanjays budget pretty good
@@jorgealcala3121 but it has solid top
i hope you'll teach us some blues one day!
he now has a ton of blues videos on you tube
Hey Idol, how about SIMPLY by Sara Hickman. Thanks for teaching us
Your videos are very good and i ve learned much songs with you. Do you know where i can find the tabs for Eric Johnson All things you are ? Or can you make the tutorial ? Thanks 🤘🎸
Dave, please make a tutorial for Something about the way you look tonight!!!
Hey! I want to thank you for your lessons.
Thanks Teo!
Does anybody know the songs on 5:35 and 6:00, amazing video btw.
The at 6:00 is “in spite of ourselves” by John Prine
Hey Dave what strings do you like to throw on your Orangewoods? I switched the Ernie balls to some custom light d'addarios xts on my sage TS, because the medium lights were a little too heavy for me, but now the low end sounds kind of muted. What strings would work well to bring that low end out?
Ok this is completely unrelated but.... If you make a tutorial of Nana the 1975 studio version I would really appreciate it 😭
What songs did you play on the strumming and fingerpicking?
wow, love that guitar
nice sound.
its a CLEO for me 😎😍
Teacher, you are awesome. When I grow older I wanna be so big as you (laughs). Next time, teacher, put the tabs from your side screen, please!
Dave what would you compare the tone to?? Does it sound like rosewood or walnut or what ?????????
Pau Ferro is a little similar to rosewood I’d say
@@GuitarZero2Hero okay thanks i had a W14 taylor and loved its tone. But like a fool I sold it. I have a 914 taylor now but not overly in love with the rosewood compared to the walnut
Sir please I need your zero2hero lessons ...
I m not in good condition to pay for it ...please sir I love your teaching☺
Hi, is it possibile to connect this guitar to an amp or an audio interface? I can never figure it out by just looking at it, especially if the specifications say Electronics: N/A
The Cleo I’m playing has no electronics. But you can add the pickup (LR Baggs) for an additional amount.
Can you please cover it goes on by Sir Rosevelt and Zac Brown
Hello,was that blues shuffle Your creation or is it some song?
Just an improv :)
@@GuitarZero2Hero That is very nice and tasty, a lesson material , thanks for replying :)
What were you playing at the start ? Is there a tutorial ?
No tutorial. It’s just something I came up with in the key of C#m
@@GuitarZero2Hero sure. Guess I’ll learn by ear 😅
How did you get this in Australia!!! I live in Melbourne that's why I'm asking
Unfortunately it’s just an exception for a review unit. Hopefully one day they’ll ship outside of US!
What its default strings?
Default strings are Ernie Ball earthwood medium light phosphor bronze 12-54
These would compare price wise and specs with the Cort Gold A6 and A8 series. How do they compare in your opinion? I've seen you've done a few videos with the Cort Gold.
I think they’re very close, but would have to say the Cleo wins out, the set up on it makes it much easier to play. I think the Cort Gold probably looks nicer though and is still and excellent guitar that also has inbuilt electronics so maybe better value when you factor that in.
@@GuitarZero2Hero Thanks for the answer! I would says also that the neck on the Cort has reinforcement that probably Orangewood doesn't + Double lock neck joint... I've got my Gold O6 on a great discount, so it was like $650, insane GUITAR for the money...
@@GuitarZero2Hero I compared them now and the Orangewood has a 44mm nut while the Cort has 45 mm, so wider. Did you feel the difference on the neck? The Cort also says UV finish that means a very thin one, that should improve the sound...
Yeh that’s an amazing price! You did well!
Beautifulllll
Hey wats the song u was playing in the intro👀
Just made it up :)
I wish they shipped to Australia
I love your videos can you play love is gone plz
Nice guitars, nice playing! One has pickguard the other doesn't ... Just saying, it might be a slight influence in tone...
The Sage comes without a pick guard. But it had no effect on the tone when I put it on from my experience.
equal tutorial coming out this week i bet
Haha you know me too well
You've not mentioned strings gauge, neck radius, frets size and materials, is it open tuners as Cleo's?? If frets aren't stainless steel and rounded ends?? Then it isn't worth it. Frets will not last long if they're not stainless steel, they should be for price of today's that's over 1075$
Like your playing and demo. But must say I never have liked a mismatched top on a guitar. The one you were playing has two different color tones. That's a turn off for me. Other than that, I hope to find one to try out at local area music stores.✌
ebony pins as well
Great
Гитара очень даже не плохая,спосибо за обзор. ;-)
cleo sounds more balanced overall. fuller in the middle. more in line with my personal preference
Better than Cort Gold?
Very similar ballpark, I think I prefer this over Cort Gold. The setup was done VERY well. Cort comes stock with electronics though so there’s pros and cons.
@@GuitarZero2Hero there is Gold 8 series which uses that wood too but value for money considering with electronics.. ya Cort guitar action is high for finger style..I got mine lowered to 1.75mm on low e..😁..considering to upgrade to Torrefied full solid..😁
Gnr-patience plz
Even if you do a giveaway i dont think it will reach till India
Hey Dave if there’s any guitars you wanna get rid of you can just give em to me 🌝 🌝 🌝
holaaaaaa!!!! podrías tocar one less lonely girl de justin Bieber plissssss
I am actually so mad.. I want Orangewood guitars so badly but they refuse to ship to South Africa! So sad and mad, its so hard to get good well priced guitars in South Africa!
Hi Iain, its not just South Africa they refuse to ship, I've tried twice to buy an Orangewood guitar and have it shipped to the UK no joy. Looks like they can only ship internationally to TH-cam reviewer's, the only answer is to start you're own YT guitar channel get plenty of views and Orangewood will send you one free of charge, or do what I did and buy another brand. I bought a Faith guitar and I love it.🇬🇧
Faith are great! But yes it is unfortunate that they don’t ship internationally at this time. Who knows, that might change one day if they see more comments like this. Thanks guys!
@@GuitarZero2Hero Hi Dave. I just like to say I think your site is one of the best guitar tutorial sites out there and you have an excellent teaching manner. I hope you did not take any offence of my previous comment, l like to see reviews of guitars especially when done well👍. But it's just annoying and frustrating to see a guitar being reviewed and not be able to buy it. Anyway keep up the good work, Del. Ps sorry if it sounded a little sarky about Iain setting up his own site to get an Orangewood, envy is a ugly trait.😁
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