Macuil Returns? - Analyzing The New Fire Emblem Warriors: Three Hopes Trailer
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- Today we're breaking down the latest trailer for Fire Emblem Warriors: Three Hopes, the Mysterious Mercenary Trailer! We finally get the name of the new protagonist character, Shez, learn about the new story paths, get first looks at several more of the newly redesigned characters, and more! We'll also discuss thoughts on how the timeline will work for the storyline, whether or not Monica has the crest of Macuil, Claude's Brother has come to take him down, so on. Thanks for watching!
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I think this is a timeline where Byleth never meets the students, and instead it was Shez
Yeah they probably messed with the timeline for sure
I feel like thats the case too. Since Byleth is still known as the Ashen Demon, meaning they never became a professor, perhaps never even meeting Rhea. Plus Byleth's objective is not known here, what if something happened to Jeralt, and Byleth is seeking revenge?
It was confirmed that 3Hopes takes place one year prior to Byleth meeting the lords, and shez dies then, to byleth. The timeline alters when Arval revives/saves Shez
@@traskth Yeah, honestly that's really interesting to me. Playing as a "nobody" who died to Byleth's blade, never to be remembered.
I never thought Byleth was the true bad guy because in the 1st trailer you can hear Sothis talking about taking revenge to soothe your heart, not for someone else's sake. So Shez most definitely is being manipulated.
I also hope they implement Byleth using Divine Pulse in a boss fight. Imagine thinking you are about to win when suddenly Byleth reverts time and can read all of your moves or retake sections of the map you took over previously. Then you had to win by changing up your strategy a lot and making Byleth run out of Divine Pulse.
The one thing I'm wondering a lot about is the 1st trailer talking about the cycle of the world. Maybe it is talking about how manipulating time has a butterfly effect. Maybe Byleth has manipulated time too much in Three houses, and so another diety has come to kill Byleth before the time fluctuations get out of hand and destroy the world through some space/time disaster.
Really great thoughts, thank you for sharing!! Totally agree
OK, that is genius. Shez being manipulated into taking revenge--if that's what you're saying--is something I didn't think of. Byleth using DP in a boss fight would be amazing. And The Butterfly Effect idea explains the biggest question of all perfectly: What causes the deviation from the canon route, if anything? Because it seems a little unlikely to me to that this is just in an AU without any reason for why it diverges.
I was thinking it might be the other way around; Byleth being manipulated or deceived.
I was thinking that the “revenge” Sothis mentions could be related to Jeralt being killed and the blame being placed on Shez? Possibly the true evil of the game manipulating Byleth causes the divergence and Shez is being set up to fix it?
@@Halfbad-bf1lt That's an interesting way of looking at "Supposed to fade into history," if I'm reading your train of thought correctly.
@@EthanKironus8067 my though was along the lines of how Edelgard was was made to look like the protag in the early 3 Houses trailers but I’m the actual game it’s a bit more of a grey area; with the end game antagonists being different depending on the route: blue lion and sliver snow had Edelgard, black eagles had Rhea and golden deer had those who sliver and Nemesis.
I don’t think this will be as clear cut as Byleth being the antagonist; given the themes of 3 Houses in general and because they’ve already pulled a fake out with the new trailer showing Shez as the protag vs the original 3 Hopes trailer
When Shez wants to get revenge on Byleth:
Byleth: “Geeez Shez, it was a prank bro…. The camera man is right there!”
Geez lou-sheeeez
YOU JUST GOT PUNK'D
If they do add a "true endung" or perfect route I'd want to have to work towards it. Something like Fate/Extella where you have to beat all the normal routes in order to unlock that route. If Arval has time powers like sothis that could play in. Or even have Shez timeline hop between routes Radiant Historia style.
That would be pretty cool!
I was just thinking the other day that a 3H in the form of Radiant Historia, where you had to hop between timelines, would be awesome. Considering how you can't get the full picture without playing all the routes, it honestly makes sense.
Yea same, to be honest I always love a true good ending but I also understand why some people don't and understand why sometimes it's best not to have one. However I still like it and I especially enjoy it when the ending is earned infact I prefer it that way.
Three Houses have three options but also the fourth. I believe the fourth option will include as a DLC route. Same thing with SMTV.
if we do all routes i want byleth to be the protagonist for that true ending route when it remerge
I’m still hoping for some ashen wolves representation and some of those awesome classes, I love mixed classes.
That'll be interesting to see if it happens. The roster of Three Houses is kinda small so it would definitely be a possibility! Hope you're right.
While I hope that’s the case, I wonder how that would work if the main setting isn’t the monastery
I think they're good candidates for DLC as they'd kind of need unique movesets
The fact that there’s still 3 paths makes me cautiously optimistic that they won’t engineer a perfect ending like they did with age of calamity. They still might, but at the very least it will definitely add some replay value. Regardless the gameplay is going to be dope
@Меѳодїи Origins gives you a boatload of options, early, mid, and late game.
@Меѳодїи that could be the case too
Well, I think that all the paths are all conon on their own timeline, like how the timeline path goes for Awakening and Fate.
I’m hoping this game ends on a cliffhanger, then you make a golden route game.
@Меѳодїи Wasnt it confirmed that all three routes will have different outcomes, though?
Shez isn’t a silent protagonist there is a few times where he talks. He starts talking in the trailer as soon as they show gameplay and there is a scene where he is carrying Dimitri and says “Am I going to be next?” Not sure what he means by this? Comparatively Byleth is still silent in both trailers.
I suppose that's a good point, while it's not definitive evidence enough just yet, the more I think about it the more I feel a silent protagonist in a Warriors game just doesn't work
@@lucky_crit yea I agree, I wouldn’t be surprised if this fact motivated them even more to make Shez the protagonist for this game. Although I would love if Byleth can eventually form a truce with Shez in the mid point of the game, and they can still have a big role in defeating the big bad. Considering Sothis and the enlightened form still exists I would like to see Byleth getting the Sword of Creator at some point.
And maybe, lore-wise, Arval did not get "forced" into Shez like Sothis was, thus not weakening Shez' emotions. Because, you know, that was one explication as to why Byleth was so silent. So maybe it means more than just (and I am glad) a non-silent protagonist.
@@lucky_crit Link in both Hyrule Warriors games: "..."
@@redfoxoffire to be fair Link had the fairy to talk for Link. Neither Byleth or Shez have that. Nobody else can see Sothis and presumably Arval.
I like how every character Ive seen so far has their best hairstyles in this game... Lol.
They are definitely doing great work with the new designs!
This was one of the coolest trailers for a game I've seen. The recontextualization was wild
I can definitely see that Agarthan deity manipulating Shez into doing the bidding of TWSITD.
I think it’s gonna be the opposite. Arval is against the Slitherers because of how corrupted they are. Seeing that the three lords might fight together in the possible “golden route” in this, and the Slitherers are trying to draw the three houses apart, I think through Shez, Arval is gonna take down TWSITD so that Fodlan can live on as a united nation
@@SunshineRey while i may not trust Arval (she's gonna have to work to EARN that trust considering I have many strong feelings about TWSITD... that if I were to type here would involved many, many swears, insults, and overall a tirade of toxicity directed at TWSITD that would potentially get me in trouble for such language. Yes, I feel the same way about them as Grima does about Humans, or at least those who refuse to give up on their inane plots and conspiracies!) if that wound up being the case, it'd be even more hilarious cause the Agarthans have become so vile THAT EVEN THEIR CHIEF DEITY HAS DECIDED THAT THEY HAVE CAUSED FAR TOO MUCH DAMAGE TO NOT HAVE THEIR VERY OWN DAY OF RECKONING! Honestly, it would both be unexpected as a lot of people including yours truly don't trust Arval and it would show that Agartha has REALLY FALLEN FAR in their obsession and their refusal to admit that they likely have none to blame but themselves for the position they are in!
I dunno about that. I already am in love with both Shez and Arval. I think they even work better as protagonist and deuteragonist than Byleth and Sothis. Arval is definitely a smug little shit (he's got the smirk of a Shin Megami Tensei character) the only person he truly loves and cares about is Shez. They are Partners in Divine Destiny.
@@raoullupin5412 Eh, I have faith he'll turn out fine in the end. He and Shez are Partners in Divine Destiny. I *do* however agree with you that Shez and Arval are certain to be Agarthan in nature. The ruined architecture in Arval's dreamscape is clearly Shambhalan in nature, and the cutscene with someone waking up in a test tube is likely Shez waking up in Shambhala. The glowing green Tron lines vaguely visible thru the fluid give it away the location. Also, Shambhala is in Leicester territory and Shez is from there according to the game. Thales even recognizes you. By the way, Arval is male.
@@azatheeverchosen7615 now I never said that Arval was certain to stab Shez in the back, only that it's a possibility although after playing the demo... a lot to prep for the game, I can certainly see Arval siding with Shez and the two rebelling against the Agarthans since like I said, there's the route where Arval feels that the Agarthans have gone too far and fallen too much to the point where they're akin to a cancerous malignant tumor where the only way to deal with those who won't side with Arval and Shez for a better future not chained down by the past and being able to somewhat move on (it's likely that while Agartha's leadership is still insistent on their schemes, there might be those who are just sick of them and only stick around due to it being a death sentence to get out of there. Rhea and the other survivors still remember and until Shez and Arval come along, they had no proof of any Agarthans or those connected to them who just want the fighting to stop after all) is to hunt them down and bring them to justice. Also, yeah... same vibes as Validar's reaction to Robin in Chapter 6 "Foreseer" of Awakening from Thales to Shez to be honest.
11:18 is Bernadette, her 3 houses sprites used the same grey hair, as well this unit appears to be playable given the ring that has only previously been around shez and edelgard.
The clothes do also resemble her time skip appearance from what we can see here
I'm pretty sure the guy with the blue hair we see fighting Holst is Caspar's father. Same hair color, and it would make sense that his father would also have an affinity for brawling and fist weapons. Really interesting to see what new characters will be playable in this story. Since Monica is now confirmed, it makes me wonder if other NPCs or characters we only heard about off screen will be joining the roster.
Will we finally see Dimitri's Uncle?
In regards to Fluegel, the shot we see of Shez and Byleth’s later duel, one of Shez’s swords has wings on the hilt. So even if it isn’t blatant, I wouldn’t be surprised if the class name has some bigger connection to Shez’s role in the story.
Something I’ve noticed watching the trailer again: it seems like movesets will be class based instead of character based. This would make sense because it would make it a lot easier to allow more characters in the game. We see the protagonist’s class changed to a cavalry unit. Hopefully this also means that every character can be any class just like TH.
That would be interesting!
I think each character will still have all their personal stuff that made them unique in three houses too, so if kept in their canon class, they’ll be a bit more unique than otherwise
I forget who it was, but I remember in the weeks leading up to the original FE Warriors, some FE youtuber did some speculation on what he thought reclassing would be like and he essentially came up with this where each character would differ in growth and what skills they attain by leveling up. Of course, that's not how it happened. Hell, the "reclass" system in FEW is really just "Spend a master seal to unlock three more combos and gain a stat boost".
I'm very glad it seems like we're getting the reclass system this subseries should have. Like you said, it'll leave room for so many more characters. Maybe even most of, if not the entire roster from 3H. If nothing else, all the students should be easy enough to implement with this system. There were hardly more of them than there were characters in FEW anyway. And that way they could guarantee that we won't get another "where's my favorite lord?" scenario like we did with FEW.
Edit: Looked it up. There's 24 playable students in FE3H and 23 playable characters (excluding DLC which adds and additional 9) in FEW. So I was pretty much spot on
@@lolzor96 yeah it seems likely. Especially with the different paths meaning you’ll only have access to about a third or so if the characters per playthrough
@@lolzor96
I wasn't aware of how many playable characters the original FE Warriors had. Thanks for sharing. With that in mind, maybe we can guess the roster better. If the original Warriors had 23 plus 9 DLC, that's a total of 32 playable units overall.
24 students in 3H means that we can get about 8 additional units, assuming the same pattern. So those might be Ashen Wolves or church units.
It's be cool if it was canon mid time skip, and your pov as an enemy of Byleth and co.
The "Bad guy without realizing you're the bad guy" trope, ending as they kill you, and stop the alternate god.
No idea if they'd make it work, but could be a cool idea that sounds plausible to pull off.
Haha that's kinda metal
No, this isn't happening in Three Houses timeline as tweets from the official account prove it.
@@nikoladedic6623 Awwwwww
Also belyeth was literally sleeping in a Ditch for the whole time skip
I think something interesting that no one's talked about is the element icon on magic and combat arts. There might be an element system, maybe like Hyrule Warriors where elements provide certain boosts and deal extra damage to some characters/classes. I think I saw fire, ice, wind, and maybe ground.
Here's my theory for the Golden Ending, a "Golden Theory" if you will.
In Three Houses we got a secret story path through Edelgards route that we weren't told about before release which is to say the Church Route.
What if in Three Hopes we have a secret route that in typical Warriors fashion, can only be unlocked through beating certain story content in certain ways. Some examples include:
WO2 Orochi Route
WO3 True Ending boss stage
DW8 What If Routes
If this trend is continued into Three Hopes we may end up seeing an Agarthan Route or a Golden Route. Fingers crossed
It'd be interesting if the player character actually does get some semblance of choice here. Based on how it seems right now, Byleth isn't BAD per se even though they killed Shez. Mercenary work is dangerous and Shez had to know what they signed up for. But Shez would still understandably be a bit peeved they lost and (almost) died as a result. Maybe the game gives them option to pursue their vendetta against Byleth or finally set it aside. That could be cool.
@@ariwl1 yeah I'm really hoping for some variety outside of just, pick a route, play it through. Warriors games have almost always had some choice involved with story barring a handful of exceptions so I'm hopeful but skeptically so
@@absolutelybrokengaming6147 Agreed. It wasn't a huge sticking point for me but I did find it amusing how Sothis asks Byleth to "Cut a path that is your own" and there's really only one point in one route where they actually get to do that. Otherwise the choice Byleth makes at the beginning of the game completely determines their path and in that moment they couldn't even begin to know how impactful it would be so it doesn't even really count as a choice. XD
@@ariwl1 literally, it's less of "forge your own path" and more of "pick a number 1-3" 😂
Actually, I think there were rumors of a split Black Eagles route pre release too. Some fans had posted that Black Eagles was the only route to have 2 paths, for a total of 4 overall. That spoiler turned out to be accurate, but we didn't know that CF was the split from SS: most people wouldn't have guessed that Edelgard would leave your party at a certain point in time.
Byleth realized that all three paths led to death for the students.
She found a new path where it's only her that dies and her that becomes the enemy - this is the path you'll explore in Three Hopes.
All of this talk about Byleth's sword, isn't Byleth just using a Silver Sword.
Yeah probably lol
That's what i thought, i'm pretty sure it is one and there is no hidden implications about it
That's like how everybody speculated on the Flame Emperor's axe too in their artwork. And it was just a generic silver axe lol.
Part of me is glad the lore and NPCs are further explored despite this game not being a strategy game lol
Yeah, definitely! They're doing a great job so far
I'm so excited I really love shez's design and the redesigns for all the old characters look great so far and I wonder if we'll be able to name byleth which would be cool
Shez encounters the lords outside Remire in the woods, where if they were to keep fleeing they would in theory find Byleth and Jeralt but since Shez is alive they are encountered first and resolve the bandit problem early before Jeralts Mercs are brought into it. Meaning that meeting never happens.
I know this might be too early but thoughts on dlc and do you think they will add the ashen wolves into the game
For all we know they could already be in the game. Maybe supporting byleth instead.
His name is obviously pronounced "cheese"
Oh, duh. Silly me
i believe this game allow us to choose only what gender our antagonist is. it's rare. usually we just can choose gender of our protagonist in many games, not the antagonist's. so I more believe that byleth's gender choice is just pure for fanservice, to choose whether we want to fight male or female byleth. but of course I can only speculating until the game come out.
Demo's out, you should play it. Byleth *and* Shez are gender determinate upon the player. I made them both female, Shez is Elspeth in my game (Elspeth is a god-slayer in Mythology, the daughter of the titan Nemesis) and I named Byleth Lethe. I tried to come up with an alternate demon name (her mother's name is Sitri, tried Lilith but didn't like it; too cliche) but read that Lethe is the personification of Coming Oblivion so it felt *right*
Okay, the fact that you mentioned Shez's armour appears to share an Agarthan aesthetic seriously makes me feel like I'm onto something with my theory, which I posted in the comments of this video: th-cam.com/video/oAdsnqvSIjQ/w-d-xo.html
Here are the pertinent pieces of that comment of mine:
"Considering the previous trailer's emphasis on revenge, and their ambiguous references to the Agarthans and TWSITD (is it intentional that the acronym is so close to TWISTED?) in both, I have a theory that maybe Byleth is, in this story, allied with the Agarthans somehow--maybe in exchange for Jeralt's life? They're already shaking up the 3H timeline and events, and loosely aligning Byleth with TWSITD explains a lot, notwithstanding that that means nothing as to the accuracy of this theory. Let alone how it happened in the first place.
First, Shez v. Byleth: Shez comes across Arval in Shambhala or someplace, gets their souls bound together, and Byleth goes after them.
Second: Explains the line in Trailer 1 where somebody says something about "not letting the cycle of the world end with you"; possibly Arval, since they seem to similar to Sothis and are probably how Shez survives the fight with Byleth.
Third: Explains the utter lack of Byleth overall, and the vague fear mentioned near the end here. Agartha wouldn't just parade their literal crown "jewel" around in the open, but Buleth's too good not to use.
Fourth: Notwithstanding prerelease secrecy, might also explain Rhea and Seteth's absences from things so far. As important as they both are in Fodlan--hence why I doubt they're not in it in some form--their direct involvement in Byleth's story is as much a product of Rhea's interest in Byleth as anything.
"
I believe in the first trailer we do actually see Rhea as the Immaculate One.
I wonder if the Byleth as a villain is a fake out of sorts, kind on like how Edelgard was heavily marketed in the original trailers for 3 houses but could be the antagonist of 3 of the games routes.
Maybe there will be a point where it turns out Byleth is being deceived or manipulated and you’re able to expose this and bring them to your side?
Honestly I think it's a fake out like you.. Since Byleth is fairly popular.. and remember the golden dear route the true enemy is that dark church.
@@AlternetRedSkys there was also the original trailer; where Sothis’ voice was trying to convince someone not to go after revenge, which might be why Shez and Byleth are fighting. And part of Three Houses was that each route had a different end game antagonist; Rhea, Edelgard or those who sliver and Nemesis; the idea of who’s good and who’s bad in Three Houses wasn’t clear cut
A theory I have is that something else has causes the events of this one to be different to the original game by manipulating or deceiving Byleth and part of this game will involve proving this to get Byleth on your side or to stop. Kind of like the Revelations path in Fates and the Golden Deer route where you learn there is more going on behind the scenes
@@Halfbad-bf1lt honestly like the idea.. or your both being deceived.
@@AlternetRedSkys given that they’ve already pulled a fake out with the Shez/Byleth fight in the first trailer, with Shez being the actual protag, and the fact that who was “bad” in 3 Houses was a matter of perspective; I feel like it would fit for the themes of the game, so long as they are sticking with the general themes of 3 Hopes as 3 Houses had
Also Byleth is too popular a character for the devs to just make them a bad guy I feel.
@@Halfbad-bf1lt
Who was in the wrong might be a matter of perspective. But I'm pretty sure the Agarthans are not redeemable after all they've done. That's not really a matter of perspective: none of the Lords or Rhea likes them.
I've never played fire emblem warriors so this will be pretty new for me if it's like persona 5 strikers I know I'll enjoy it might even pre-order it
Most warriors games are a lot less… involved then strikers. Same concept, but the combat is on big stages battlefields and the bosses are a lot more simplistic in their movesets
Agarthans are really mysterious people. We know from FE3H what they did in the past. But the reason they did it was only told from Rhea's point of view. Also, Sothis was being called the "false goddess" (but I might be forgetting something about that-)... So if Larva is the deity of Agartha, doesn't that mean she was there before Sothis ? Because, the big conflict was between the children of the progenitor god (Sothis) and the humans.
Again, those were Rhea's words. Maybe, with Sothis arrival, the local goddess disappeared and the Agarthans got mad.
This conflict reminds me of the Church vs Science (irl). In the past, the Church denied new ways of performing medicine. The members of the Church were the only people allowed to "invastigate" the human body. Religious people say that God is with them (through there blood and there souls).
In FE3H, Seteth destroyed books about human bodies (and not from the war between Nabatea and Agartha). Rhea gave blood (with the last power of Sothis) to many people. She is the only one who performed "surgery". The power of Sothis are in people's blood.
In other words, "Science" is fighting against "Faith".
Byleth might be an antagonist in Three Hopes, as she will be by Rhea's side (light green hair from her awakening + fighting against the protagonist). It would make sense. She has Sothis' heart. Shez will have Larva (supposedly the goddess of Agartha) on his side.
And I believe that we will get our Golden route, but maybe not with Byleth standing with our lords.
The reason such an ending never existed in FE3H is because the Church was always in the way, like a parasite affecting the fate of the people.
Byleth was the "champion" of the Church. Agartha never had one. So Shez might be the "champion" of humanity.
And his role, with Larva's benediction, and his comrades (our wonderful students !) will be to defeat the Church, and fully free humanity.
In the trailer, Edelgard, Dimitri and Claude clearly fight together at one point. And since there camps are like mercenary camps, they will fight the Church. And let's be honest, that would be badass !
Effin Byleth with Sothis powers (maybe with more powers) + Rhea in her dragon form (who can turn people into dragons as well), THAT is a dangerous duo !
And they ARE strong, seeing how Rhea destroyed the Agarthans in the past and how powerful awakened Byleth is.
Byleth can't be the one to unit the three sides because of her important connection to Rhea and the Church. Aaaaaaaand her problem with feelings. It took her time to start "feeling" things. She always acted before because it was an "order" or her "duty". It was not from her will.
Few ! That was long ! Sorry for the essay I wrote there ^^'
Oooooh. I like that! 😏
Really cool thoughts, thank you for sharing!
I wouldn’t say the church is what kept the rift between them. Maybe in crimson flower but crimson flower doesn’t match the others. In three houses I think it’s more the agarthans and their manipulation of edelgard keeping the rift there.
The church and Rhea hiding the truth certainly didn’t help, but it’s not the full blame. Plus the lords are set in their ways, all of them and they need someone to help guide them from them. The issue in three houses is that byleth had no true way of guiding all the students and helping them all because they are knocked out and it’s five years into the war already. Byleth has only the influence over the lord who they taught.
Shez has an advantage since Arva is probably an agarthan goddess meaning shez has that influence over lords or a lord and probably has influence with agarthans allowing them to push that influence away or change it to what they want.
Honestly though I think the reason is they three houses never truly had a common enemy to fight. I think if they had a common enemy like in fates revelations then they could put aside differences. But three houses didn’t have that because edelgard was using twistd and the alliance was split on who to side with.
@@mwtoZP That is true !
But I am not saying that the Church take all the blame for what happened. It's just... The Church has a great influence of the characters' fate in every route. In the end, they submit to a force that got powerful with "not so holy" ways. The Church of Seiros did manipulate Fodlan, but because it is holy and powerful, it was difficult to go against it.
This always stuck to me. That's why, to me, no matter what ending you get, it was never a good ending. It's either a good ending for the Church, or a "good ending" for humanity. But at what cost ?
When we go down the Church's route, when Rhea loses control, I started to think that the blood she gave to people was like parasite. They lose their humanity and control because of her.
So maybe, the Agarthans saw Sothis and her children like parasites.
Moreover, Rhea hiding the truth and her feelings is what led to the next conflict. Edelgard only knew her ancestor's point of view (so a human one). She got tortured by the Agarthans to awakened her power. But the Agarthans wanted revenge, for their freedom. And in some way, this feeling got passed to Edelgard.
As for Byleth struggle to help because they were knocked out. Well, after seeing the trailer from There Hopes, I think that Shez did something that Byleth didn't.
Byleth is a silent character who goes with the flaw. And when we get to the point when Edelgard steals the crest stones, Byleth follows for the first time their feeling (In general I mean, no matter what route you picked).
The feelings they developed applied to one group of people. They got attached to them but that's it. Even if they feel empathy, they only follow the people they got attached to.
Shez might be the key to unit the three sides. Since they talk and express their feelings.
You might say, "well he fights because of a duty too". That is also true ! But what if Larva saved him after he was killed by Byleth ? If "revenge" is what carry them to go on ? Like the rest of the people who will change the History of Fodlan...
Byleth killing Shez at the beggining might be symbolic. Like a parallel or foreshadowing. Rhea becomes heartless when she fights those who oppose the Church. It's not something you would expect from a Saint.
Heartless "parasites" on Earth that oppose Humanity... That would be cool !
Anyway, I forgot certain things and you reminded me of them in your comment ! But I wrote here my feelings on certain things I didn't write before ^^
Edit : sorry for my English, I'm still learning X)
@@oxo8461 but are you forgetting something byleth never had connection to rhea church being with until he/she meet three edelgard and dimitri and claude in forest byleth might come as in mercenary by getting hired by someone unless rhea find out about him
I think shez will become evil around middle game it might because arval power through revenge anger (is just my theory )
I think the three routes are likely to converge after a certain point. Either you will have to play the three separate routes through time shenanigans to get the merge or the merge will happen at a certain point no matter the route.
2:36 don't forget that it actually has a personality, unlike byleth, i hope they are not like rowan and lianna
It'd be pretty disappointing if the golden route needs to be unlocked through paid dlc. Would be a lot more rewarding to the player if you have to go through each path first before you can get the true ending. I have a strong feeling this game takes place after the characters graduate or not too long after, since to me it looks like this is somewhere between 1-3 years after the beginning of the game (the characters look a little older, but not five years older).
What caught my attention was the "P2 can join" thing, did the original FE warriors had a 2-Player mode?
Yes it did!
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How does 2 player mode work in a Warriors game? Also, do Warriors games have a NG+ where things transfer over, a la 3H NG+?
Byleth uses a Brave Sword in the trailer.
Rodriuge Fraldarius has teal sleevs, and there is no way Felix isn't in the game.
Maybe it's just me but I'm the only one that doesn't get why folks immediately suspect that Arval is a manipulative entity and that the events of the game is some weird time alteration towards the *bad* when it could also be possible that perhaps Sothis may not be as benevolent as we seem (or that they've done something bad) and that maybe Shez being killed off in the original timeline was actually a mistake of sorts
Idk, I feel like it'd be way too obvious and predictable if Arval was malevolent to begin with and it'd kind of be lame if they went with that route instead of maybe showing a grayer outcome, as well as expanding on the Nabateans and the Agarthans that was opposed to fighting Sothis (aka whoever Those Who Slither had an infighting with before the whole big war with Nemesis)
I see what you mean, but they would probably be afraid of tarnishing Sothis and Byleth, I would think
@@lucky_crit Idk I doubt something like that would outright tarnish them. It's less of a "I wanna see Byleth and Sothis be evil" and more of a "I hope they unveil some truths about them not in the game and that not all is as they seem"
@@Lexicon865 I could see it but, it would also be something a gut punch. we have this mainline entry where nothing indicates Sothis ever did anything particularly dasterdly. like literally she only dies because she uses up her powers to cleanup humanities mess of the world. it'd be a pretty big departure from everything we know about her.
If there's a single character presented in FE3H as "good", it's Sothis. She's definitely haughty, but there's also a lot of opportunity over the course of the game for the character to talk to Sothis about what's going on and what she thinks, and Sothis is on the side of protecting the kids and trying to save people 100% of the time. Making Sothis evil would require overturning the presented canon of the game in an absolutely enormous way. It wouldn't go beyond what stories have been known to do, obviously, since there are authors out there who only ask themselves "What's the most shocking thing I could do next?" but that level of change without some serious foreshadowing existing in the original game would just be bad writing. So our options are a) Sothis is actually good, b) they'll present a twist where Sothis is bad but it'll be terrible writing, or c) there actually is foreshadowing in the original game that we're currently missing pointing to Sothis being evil. Anyone who wants to argue for option c should be looking for that foreshadowing.
Arval could be good but there's no redeeming the Agarthans by now. Their list of crimes is a laundry list of awful.
At 11:20, this light brunette has been assumed to be Bernie by people, and I do hope it's her
It's most definitely her. The sprite has the same cloak Bernie wears post time-skip.
15:10
I've thought about who it might be, and I think it could be Caspar's dad. He's got the light blue hair, and he's supposed to be the general of military affairs of the Empire, so it would make sense that if things complicated between the Alliance and the Empire, the two head figures of their militaries would fight like this.
A vague thought, but I think it fits in.
If there is a fourth route is Byleth? Play the game from their eyes after completing the other three routes? Also I get Bravely Default Airy vibes from Larva.
Let’s face it, a golden route was never going to happen in a spin-off. If Intelligence Systems wanted to do that it would be in a mainline game. Now it’s possible Three Hopes could be the set up to a golden route game.
It's a warriors game... Warriors games usually do have either hidden routes or just a golden route in general soo that's one thing you might be wrong about
@@bradleydrake6941 I agree. Most likely you must complete all three normal routes to unlock the fourth.
Mmmmm, I wouldn't be too sure. The clearly put a lot of time, money and effort into making this game into the best it could be. I rather think Shez and Byleth and the rest of the Lords really will get the ending they *deserve*
So long as they don't make the same mistakes as Fates, they'll be fine enough to make a proper Golden Route
@@azatheeverchosen7615 The game got datamined. Recruitment is in but some characters are one route only. For example Ashe and Mercedes are the only recruitable lions and Mercie can only be recruited into the Eagles.
@@paladinslash4721 Some characters being one route only hardly disproves a Golden route. If recruiting isn't necessary, then of ofc it wouldn't show up in the data. The same principles make me think they'll still have paired endings, except like in Three Houses they only take effect at the very end. So they could easily have you choose to pair Shez with anyone you got rank A with. I mean, the opening sequence shows Macuil fighting, Seteth with glowing green hair like Seiros (I suspect he got his Dragon Forme and powers back), Rhea fighting for humanity like she was always meant to, and many more Nabateans than there were thought to still live. And the enemies, are *Agarthan*
So, yeah.... There's plenty of evidence yet still to suggest there will be a Golden route. And this is all in the *DEMO!!!*
i was waiting to hear your analysis :D
Thanks for waiting 🙏
The fact that Larva is gray/silver makes me wonder if SHE is the true Ashen Demon that Shez must challenge later on in the story.
I'm pretty sure the weapons and movement icons indicate the type of enemies you will face on the map. The ! represents the quantity. The blue arrows represent weapon effectiveness. Edelgard uses an axe so she would be more effective against lances while Shez wields a swords which makes him effective against axes. You also see those arrows in the map, so it shows where those axe units are. Battalions and skills will probably affect the arrows too.
I'm wondering, could we be looking at an Ashunera type of situation with Sothis and Arval? It was said that Arval acts as if "something is missing", and I don't think we ever got a real explanation as to why Sothis manifested in Byleth in an incomplete fashion (looking like a child, not having her full powers). Maybe they ended up hating each other and that is why Byleth and Shez fight each other.
At first when I thought Arval was male, I thought maybe he was the male dragon god who came to Fodlan with Sothis and fathered the Nabataean race with her. But since both are female, I've already thrown out that theory lol
@@l.n.3372 Arval *is* male. No bust size, covered chest (unlike Sothis, who has a cleavage window despite being *flat* ) and if you've played the demo....
Boy, is that voice *deep*
Yeah, no chance Arval's female.
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I've played the demo but I'd heard on Serenes Forest that Arval was female. I trust them as a source. So if they're right, then maybe the voice is just deep?
@@l.n.3372 *If* they're right. If being the keyword.
Why precisely do you trust Serene's Forest as a source, why didn't you ask them to source it? Because there's no actual source material or promotional material about Arval yet.
So nobody on Serene's Forest could actually know that. ;p
You ask me, you just recall seeing someone comment and offhandedly refer to him as female. I can definitely see how most would assume such, seeing as how Sothis is female and Arval is her equal and opposite.
As a Byleth fan, I am displeased...
I think it's just a misdirection and they won't be the big bad of the game, but we will have to see!
@@lucky_crit I'm hoping it is a misdirect.
Same my heart is broken.
If there is a golden route, then either the developers don't understand what three houses is, or they just didn't care. The way you feels in three houses is so great because of the tragedy.
I never played the other fire emblem warriors but I'm incredibly excited for this one. I hope we get a peace between everyone but at the very least I hope we get a more interesting story.
I've got the feeling that the Monica we see is still Kronya in disguise. It would just be a more interesting addition rather than just having another student. Even if the wind caller's tome requires the crest of Macuil, Kronya might have taken some of the original Monica's blood to assume her form (we don't really know how TWSITD's disguises work, right?)
From what I understand of the timeline, Shez got beaten and sorta killed by Byleth in 1179, around the same time Monica was kidnapped, then Shez runs into the three house leaders outside of Remire when Three Houses begins a year later. Byleth still becomes a professor, but Shez also joins the academy as a student as an opportunity to get revenge on Byleth. For all we know, the player's choice of house might be Byleth choosing a house and Shez following.
But Byleth becomes a professor after saving the house leaders when they come to Remire for help. If Shez rescues them before they reach Remire, they might end up not meeting Byleth, who then won't become a professor. Shez might agree to join the academy either because Arval pushes them to, or as an opportunity to get stronger or face Byleth on a battlefield in the future as part of the education. Although I could still see Byleth becoming a teacher, the position needs to be filled after all. As a side note, the reason Shez was even in the forest near Ramire is probably because they knew Byleth was there.
As for Monica, I think it's curious that Arval's possession of Shez happens in the same year Monica was abducted. If Monica really did have the crest of Macuil, that could explain why she was targeted in the first place (after all, Flaynn was also targeted and she does have a crest). If Arval is connected to TWSITD, then maybe getting their hands on Shez made it unnecessary to abduct Monica if whatever their goal in abducting people with crests was could also be achieved through Shez.
@@raehan_9322 Thing is it never mentions that he saved them, only that they met
I think so too. I'm banking on Byleth choosing a house and Shez asks to join said house as a student to wait for the opportunity to seek revenge. Only for Shez to fall for the other students and become their friend.
As for Monica, I'm guessing it's the real Monica at first on Black Eagles route, but it could be Kronya in disguise on the other routes. Because logically, only Edelgard, Hubert and Shez can stop Kronya since they might have connections to the Agarthans in advance. The other Lords don't even know Monica was a fake, after all.
Just a thought. Arval reminds me of a moth. Perhaps there is some symbolism? A moth, ever drawn to the light but getting hurt if they touch it. Sothis reminds me (style wise) of a butterfly. Also, 2 player! I, at least, will appreciate that.
Arval is baby Sothis O.O
Or maybe a baby Nabataean that died young and never aged?
Hilda's brother is fighting against Caspar's father
Holst let's GOOOOOO!!!!
I think people are looking too deep into the story aspect of this spin off. We have to remember it's a warriors game so they have to figure out how we can play as every character at once so either regardless of what path is chosen all the lords will team up with byleth to defeat the real threat or the paths are separated but you can play as any character they has already been unlocked through playing the other paths making it a fake golden path when you have all the characters unlocked. People should probably be more focus on the gameplay which is the primary focus of this game and be prepared for a subpar story but ill eat my words If this an amazing story.
Yeah, I really hope you're wrong, they have the same talent as the main game so I really hope they don't phone it in
@@lucky_crit I hope I'm wrong about the story too but I do think that once you unlock a character once they'll be playable on any path in future playthroughs just based on other warriors games
@@brenn0818 well it could be like the first hyrule warriors. When the story and free play wore separate
@@zwillscoopchannel9689 true
@@brenn0818 also not to mention most warriors games are actual golden routes so it could be possible by playing all three routes you unlock a split path like in Hyrule warriors 3DS/Switch version
That almost certainly is Holst fighting Bergliz. Caspar's a brawler who is good with axes with blue hair and that older guy is a War Master with a suspiciously hair color and who has no Crest design visible, unlike Holst who has the Crest of Goneril large on his cape. It would be fitting for this to be the case, since Bergliz is considered a terrifying warrior by Caspar who is placed in charge of Leicester after its conquest in Crimson Flower. He is almost as mythic as Holst in terms of being an off-screen badass.
Only that Bergliez doesn't get food poisoning like Mr. Holst.
Azure gleam all the way...
it's pronounced chaz
Oh I thought it was Chase Aria TPC
You know, despite being on the cover, this trailer barely acknowledged Sothis at all, at least as a character. (Meaning, outside the comparisons to Shez and his deity, as well as Byleth's hair color change in the second fight.) I wonder what that means for her character?
Silver backgrounds was used primarily by the Agarthan weapons and the special restored weapons
Actually silver weapons were church relics aka sacred relics. Black background weapons were Agarthan, like the scythe of Sariel used by the Death Knight, and the crescent sickle.
Honestly i still hope that there isn't a golden route as to not fall into previous events aka fates
while yes,three houses is way better writen,a golden ending would affect three houses just as badly as rev did to fates
I agree. I’m honestly surprised some people want one because I thought like a lot of people were cool with three houses having 4 separate endings and NOT having a “Revelations” like Fates did. I feel like including one in a spin off game would very much undermine all the original 4 routes of Three Houses cause it’s like what’s the point of Azure Moon, Silver Snow, Verdant Wind, and Crimson Flower if they all get truly resolved in this game?
@@tomasgarcia7499 I mean in 3 houses it would have been very hard to justify. here though with time shananigans and threats beyond Edelgards plans you do actually have a chance to have a golden route that doesn't effect the original experience.
I am glad it's not just another route and they are doing something more interesting here. It's kind of like age of calamity and i personally liked age of calamity for what it was. If in age of calamity they did just show us what happened in the normal timeline it would have been quite boring as we already would have known everything that happened, would just have been seeing it.
The guy we hear at the start and end is Shez. We know he’s not a silent protagonist because we see him speaking to Edelgard at one.
That doesn't definitively answer it, as it could have just been the player selecting dialogue options, but yeah the more I think about it the more it seems implausible to have a silent protagonist in a Warriors game
5:42 Actually it isn't impossible. Claude is missing his little beard from Three Houses
Any chance that we will get The Gatekeeper as a playable dlc character? He won the popularity polls for FE Heroes so I hope to see him show up in three hopes too!
Maybe we will get both Byleths and Shezs and whichever you don't pick goes on the army that you don't choose to be in. Since time travel is involved I can see there being two of the same person running around!
11:00 armored lord Edelgard with lvl 6 either means the academy phase is fairly short or that this Person playing has neglected training her until fairly late
I won’t lie, the idea we’re being manipulated and going down the “wrong path” as shez is so fascinating that I can’t help but want it.
never played a warrior game before but man I am super excited for this
I hope you end up liking it!
I’m not super confident that this will happen, but I’d like to see the Ashen Wolves show up in the game, even if they aren’t playable or have a strong story presence (although I would love to see it). I’d even be fine with just seeing them hang around base camp.
With how small the 3H cast is, yeah I really hope to see them again and playable too. That would be awesome!
I’m predicting that Shez, Byleth, and all members of the three houses will be playable in the base game. The Church of Serios and Ashen Wolves will added as DLC further down the line.
Pretty cool misleading tbh, I really think the new bootleg Sothis is evil & is either using Shez or he's a team with her, then it'll be clear that Byleth is a good person while the new characters aren't. It reminds of the main game 3 Houses when they pushed Edelgard in the trailers then we played the game only to discover she's the main villain & wages war on everyone later. This bait & switch attitude they have done with FE is pretty cool ngl 👍
Edelgard is only the main villain if you choose not to side with her though. It’s hard to say she’s a villain. The only actually villains are like Nemisis or those who slither in the dark
@@Kale13000 she's the central villain of the story who wages the 5 year war, conquers by military force the entire continent because of her sad past regardless of path, CF only contexualizes her choices & gives you her perspective but never stops her from waging war or conquest or aiding/benefitting from the Agarthans or seeking the truth or find alternative ways. It's as if we were given a choice to play as Ashnard in Path of Radiance or Walhart in Awakening or Arvis in FE4 or any other past 3H villain, it's been done in Fates Conquest too btw as the 1st villain playable path.
Nemesis is a villain but he's irrelevant & has no affect on the story in anyway, he's relegated to a meaningless asspull zombie boss at the end of VW. The Agarthans are saturday cartoon villains background noise at best & really only aid Edel in her plans (like all evil cults that aided past FE villains) but they never have that strong of a presence or an effect to the story except for a few details. It's Edel who is the central villain/antagonist of the story regardless of path.
The new diety could be a guy. Their voice sounds quite androginous and their gender is not confirmed.
@@krimsonkatt yes true, I noticed that. I assumed it's a girl because Sothis is a girl. Also he/she has human ears unlike Sothis 🤔
@@Kale13000 she's a villain in every route except the supposedly hidden route that diverts completely from the formula of all the other routes. more sympathetic than most villains but, yeah definitely fair to call her the games major villain.
Shez isn't a silent protagonist, I mean, you literally hear him speaking during his introduction segment
Black Eagles: Waifu Route
Silver Snow: Milf/Loli route
Blue Lions: Husbando Route
Golden Deer: Bros before Hoes Route
Slightly accurate. But I'd argue some consider Golden Deer to also be a Waifu route too, with the female Deer being more popular than the males (save for Claude obviously).
@@l.n.3372 True, there are a lot of Lysythia, Marianne, and Hilda fans as well as tons of fanart. Leonie tho to my knowledge isn't that well liked. Also Claude is literally the only character in the game to reject you, so...
@@krimsonkatt
What do you mean by Claude rejects you? In what sense?
I think Leonie was disliked more at first but got slightly more popular as time went on and people appreciated her as a unit vs her as a Jeralt obsessed character. But there are also fans who strongly dislike Bernadetta and Lysithea as characters too, since their schticks are very repetitive and annoying. It's just a female character thing in 3H where they tend to be more tropey and repetitive in certain ways. Like how Marianne supports almost always start with her being depressed about her crest, Lysithea is always rude in her early support, Bernadetta is terrified of everything, Leonie says Jeralt a lot etc.
But still, I'd argue Leonie is probably more popular than Lorenz, Ignatz and Raphael on average. Which tbh is a shame cuz Lorenz is such a great character, but people get the wrong first impression with Lorenz.
@@l.n.3372 Claude doesn't accept your ring in his S support and says he has ambitions and things he needs to get done before a serious relationship between you starts. Then he leaves for Amyra without you. In the paired ending it says that Claude came back after achieving his ambitions and Fodlan and Amyra were united, but that doesn't change the fact that he still rejects you in the S support. I think he's the only character to do so in the series so far. And I've seen the majority of Lorenz' supports and completed golden deer and I STILL really don't like Lorenz.
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Well tbh, I never read Claude as romantically interested in Byleth. Their relationships just doesn't feel romantic. I also don't really buy that they're friends either. I just don't think VW did a great job convincing me that Byleth and Claude are anything more than professor and student.
Well, to each their own re: units. But I find Lorenz to be one of the best written even tho he gives off a bad first impression.
The main game had a secret 4th ending that stemmed from one of the routes, so we could get a golden version of that
I don’t know why but I really don’t like Shez’s color palette. The bright purple and orange/red just does not look good to me at all.
They are triad colors and it's a pretty unusual color scheme, so it's cool to see, but yeah I can absolutely understand why you feel that way
At 1:56 when it talks about Byleth and Shez names I have to say it kinda reminds me of the trailers. Shez (Three hope trailer) is probably use to deceive us from knowing the actual plot of the game. While Byleth(Three houses) is more of a truthful rendition of the actual plot. Although it might also be that the game developer realized how to make a good trailer without giving away the plot. Either way, I seriously can't wait for the game to come out
byleth sward looks like a steel sword from 3 houses and in the first trailer it was a silver sword I don't understand why people don't catch these things with exception of edalgurds new perf ax, shez primary relic sword, and the tomes all the weapon models in the trailers are in base 3 houses
There is also that one shot of Edelgard charging at something while dimitri?passively stands behind her.
So yeah, I don’t rule out a golden ending, especially considering that we had 4 routes in three houses.
Yeah I caught that. Also the Claude/Dimitri back to back scene in the first trailer
Fluegel doesn't specificially mean haprsichord. It actually referres to the form factor of a grand piano since the hatch basicially looks like a wing. If you ask for a Fluegel instrument in german no one will refer it to the dual keyboard harpsichord but to a single keyboard grand piano. I think the Fluegel class refer to the wings on Shez' summoned second sword or that dual weilding basicially looks like Shez had wings of its own.
13:46 Oh my god thank you for pronouncing it correctly!!!
It's frustrating when people don't just take two seconds to search up how to say something first haha.
I'm just hoping there's a good route for By as well if it ends up having everyone join together. Although I could see something interesting when all is said and done.
Honestly, I just want them to do more with the Agarthans.
idk if anybody noticed but like at 9:25 shez' sprite can be seen having two swords ... yeah?
I don't think players have much of a choice with Byleth when the chest of the female version is visible even in a back shot.
Oh my god I’ve been reading it as adjacent not Adjutant for so long 11:10 I feel dumb
I'm not going to try to guss if byleth is the Villain or the hero I feel it's batter to just wait and see
I will be ignoring this game like i did with Warriors
call me back when we have an actual Mainline game lol
Shez just feels like a self insert Sonic fanfic OC, sure it makes things more "interesting" but that isn't necessarily a good thing with the info we have.
That would be the fear, but I'm gonna hope it's handled at least a bit better than that lol. Bare minimum the design is pretty decent
@@lucky_crit Yeah, hopefully.
its not that i hate shez i just want byleth back and find shez' design kinda ugly
Edelgard’s weapon name sounds like Lebron James
people are seeming to think byleth wont end up a teacher its possible but i kind of hope byleth ends up the teacher of whatever house we do not pick
I think the timeline is getting messed with so Byleth doesn't end up at the Officers Academy. But we will have to see
Golden Deer route here I go once again I'm so hype for this game
Picking Byleth's gender is like naming your rival in a Pokemon game. I think Byleth will be the "bad guy" the whole time. It's essentially what happens when Byleth chooses whatever you think is the wrong path, and we get to fight on the other side. I always thought Sothis was a little pretentious trying to be a goddess anyways. People have the right to rule themselves if they want.
… the Agarthans also
Had gods they worshipped
@@ilngsisfh which is exactly why Fodlan needs Edelgard - no gods no masters! Crimson Flower just really needed that extra chapter at the end where she can take down the Agarthans too. Ideally, in this game, we can help Arval defeat Sothis and Rhea and then she will leave Fodlan to be ruled by its own people. Maybe?
@@duckymomo5135 That's not how anything works (either in real life, or in the story). For the vast majority of the population it's just *different* masters. They have masters either way. "Ruled by its own people" is not a possibility in a setting with monarchs and nobility, and really it's only wishful thinking in even the 'representative' forms of government in the real world.
@@Eladelia by "ruled by its own people" I mean by actual humans instead of god-like dragons
@@duckymomo5135 For all practical purposes, in the feudal political system the game represents, there is no difference for the vast majority of the population.
I remember Edelgard back in three houses saying count Ochses doesn’t have a crest I. Balthus and Hapis paralogue so I’m really curious as to how Monica has one now
This might be shocking but for a child to be born naturally you need both a mother and father.
Oops I meant that the entire Ochs bloodline doesn’t have it Edelgard says yeah i phrased it wrong
@@duyanhpham9227
I cannot remember the dialogue in said paralogue. But if Monica lacks a crest, I wonder why she was kidnapped by TWISTED in the first place. What was so special about her?
4:49 NEVER suggest a DLC to be the Golden Ending, it didn’t happen with Three Houses when Cindered Shadows came out (and I’m glad it didn’t), but the last time they saved a Golden Ending route for DLC, it was the Revelation route for Fates. Saving an entire Route for DLC is Greed incarnate.
I wasn't saying it would be a good thing lol, just noting the possibility
Cindered Shadows isn’t actually another route but an expansion to the base game before the five years later.
@@therealjaystone2344 I'm aware
this is entirely different game with it's own unique plot beats and changes though so it's not as if it's a hold out dlc. it's functionally completely separate.
Honestly Cindered Shadows WAS a Golden Route for all intents and purposes. It was just a small side story too. But Rhea had given up her goal of reviving Sothis, moving on to be a less obsessed character, and the 3 Lords worked together to take down a greater threat. That's about as much of a Golden Route as 3H was ever gonna get.
I have a feeling that those sprites could be Bernie and Constance but we’ll wait and see I guess. I’m just hopeful for that anyway
I suppose! Though Bernie's hair color would be looking a little off, but not a bad observation
Constance in the Black Eagles!? That would be wonderful! She's already from the Empire anyway
A purple colored Byleth, *with a personality and a voice. Not an empty vessel for the rebirth of a goddess.
There is a difference.
I wonder if this will be like an Ike and Micaiah situation. Even if we don’t go back and forth between the two maybe they’re involved in two different factions and eventually everyone needs to fight against the common enemy hoping to destroy them all. We’ll see.
Who would be the Black Knight bailing out the "Micaiah" in 3H? xD
If you look around 9:03 at the bottom left corner is a unit that looks like byleths sprite on the bottom right starting square.
Bro wait you’re right! Can’t believe I didn’t catch that one. Good eye!
Idk if that's Byleth. The hair is off but it looks like Hubert's dark mage/dark bishop sprite style.
One thing to note is that byleth is a merc
Any ideas on P2 features?
Tactical Map(deep ally ordering) was introduced in the FE/Hyrule Warriors. Maps in the main Warriors(DW/SW/WO) series were not tactical. You could simply tell allies to attack or protect bases, not protect other characters in DW/SW/WO/WA.
I suspect that only having Shez & Edelgard's icons visible, is indeed partly for UI cleanliness, but I think I know why they both get full icons. In Three Houses, you would lose a battle if either Byleth or your path's chosen lord were defeated, leading you to watch them closely. The inclusion of both icons is likely for a similar purpose, allowing you to see where the two "Insta-defeat" characters are on the battlefield. This way, if one needs backup, it is easy to see where they are and get help to them quickly.
Maybe the game is something like how you play both protagonists and their stories will just overlap, sort of like Alm and Celica's.
Byleth isn’t a villain, just because Shez is a dumbass and attacked Jeralt’s Mercenaries and got their ass handed to them and is mad about it. And since Byleth likely isn’t going to be a professor the only reason you might fight them at first is that the church hires Jerald’s mercenaries and they’ll be a part of that. That is until Jeralt probably dies, likely by the hands of Shez or someone allied with them and Byleth gains her full power and becomes an active antagonist, seeking the revenge Sothis warned against.
Istg if seteth doesn’t get a new design i will burn my copy
Flayn didn't seem to have a new design in the trailer, so idk if Seteth would get it either