It seemed like he was constantly distracted with the subcount. There are times when he would completely ignore Emp who was asking him great questions and trying to engage the whole time. It was kinda annoying...
@@noahmendoza8548 I mean, can he NOT interrupt. This would be the near equivalent of Cr1TiKaL giving a good question to Kaya and Kaya just cut it off with a Ridge sponser without going to that question back again.
The reason HBox did this video on stream is BECAUSE hes engaging with his viewers. Not acknowledging your new subs is very rude, given that they're paying you something akin to a Hulu subscription or half a Netflix sub. It might be annoying for you watching the video, but its rude if you were the one subbing and you didnt get recognition.
Nah. Unlike hungrybox, emplemon was heavily respected by the greater youtube community. Hungrybox only received token support and casual sympathy. Btw, emplemon turned vegan when PETA defiled Steve Irwin's anniversary.
@@jameslebro6598 Actually that's wrong. EmpLemon received tons of hate for making YTPs differently and would constantly be attacked on sites like YouChew. Much like HBox, he got hate for taking part in and influencing a meta in a way certain people didn't like.
@@JoeDan54 Youchew has shut down. And one of his most persistent haters (ex-YTP) has changed his way of thinking. So in a sense, the hate is decaying at best and dying at worst. And I don't see how Emplemon could be hated now. Whereas with HBox, well, some could say he's technically the largest Smash channel.
@@jameslebro6598 Well I think much like EmpLemon, much of the hate for Hbox is starting to die down. Also I didn't realize that Hbox's YT channel was so big, damn lol
Emp should also do a full on interview with hungrybox not just a commentary, seemed like he had a lot of good questions I wanted to know the answer to that kinda got skipped over
@@M2orNot at 1:52:33 Emp asks if Hbox wanted to elaborate on all of the reasons why he’s hated personally, which was 5 months before All the controversy against other players.
I think it was more just how they set it up that made it really awkward. They didn't really know each other beforehand, had to try talking over the stream audio while not shouting in each other's faces and they also weren't facing each other to talk to each other, while paying attention to the stream chat as well. If they just made this like a vod or something like Hot Juans there probably would have been a better back and forth.
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Amazing effort and documentary. This is an archive for the ages. It’s refreshing to get some history after mindlessly watching combo videos from mixed years and tournaments.
Diddy Kong is the best character in brawl actually. He's so strong he doesn't even need to be in the match he can summon an invisible banana to mess with people and win.
I can't believe HBox doesn't get why they used kirby in the brawl trailer. It's a joke because he doesn't receive an upgrade because he's so simple. He even makes an expression that looks like he's confused.
Yeah, an American who claims that his father was on welfare as a child and never received a college education, but was able to "make something of himself." His mother is allegedly Chinese and "grew up under Chairman Mao"
I feel like I am better at playing Jigglypuff with a Keyboard on Melee than I can with a Gamecube Controller. This is coming from someone who has never had a Gamecube and has only played Melee through Dolphin Emulator.
Judging by the fact that he watched the doc after a few days (and this stream coming a few months later), your hypothesis will have to rely on the fact that he streamed roughly as soon as emplemon uploaded since it'll be 3 hours long stream.
i'd rather hbox watch the video alone to see his more objective view on it, but lemon was fanboying over him and it took away from the whole thing, but that's just me. Look how Armada did it. He DISSECTED the video. Would've loved to see hbox do the same, ah well.
I would say, Emplemon's creation of the smash doc is based on his earlier experience with his other docs, especially with his video about Stanislav Petrov. And considering Emplemon never in his TH-cam career meet a top tier figure in person (the largest channels he met was with his friends in SOTY). So it may be obvious that Emp has not much ideas to remain professional. With Hungrybox, of course he'll be biased to his own video. But you're right that Hbox should react to this video alone, but since he watched it already (even before this stream), there won't be surprises or critical thoughts in such a reaction video. Should he make a video reacting to this alone, I doubt it would be on the same level of that of 2Saint reacting the same video.
@Byleth Eisner I watched the stream and the reason that Armada was ragging on the Puff the whole time was that the Hbox-Puff relation appeared on the Never Ever episode no less than a third of its run. Most of the valid criticism was that Emplemon was being contradictory (such as how Melee can't survive a top player like Hbox leaving despite Armada just doing that)
WRIS Armada got butthurt when emplemon called him out on him using a pink floaty character too. That video really showed the toxicity and ego of Armada tbh.
@@bonzokop1233 emplemon said they both used pink floaty characters (which both are) and Armada got triggered at the comment and lashed out in his commentary at this clear joke, this shows his insecurity.
@@tyvamakes5226 Irrelevant to what I was saying, but yeah I agree. It's kinda annoying, we'll just have to learn to get used to it though because that's how entertainers are primarily subsidized through streaming platforms.
@@hatiroth7919 Simply, that's how entrenched streaming culture works. But when it's a TH-camr streaming live, the 'stream culture' is so foreign for many TH-cam regulars, that it's rare to even have donor shoutouts, let alone doing it every 5 minute or less.
I think he lowballs his questions to Hbox. Not to mention that, not only does Hbox keep calling donor's names every minute, but Emp does not have any authority in the Melee community beyond an outsider documentarian.
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"TF2, my favorite video game of all time".
If he makes a Never Ever on something from TF2 I can officially die happy
A bit of a high hope there. Probably will pick some obscure stuff that would be applied to Never Ever, like 1980 US vs USSR (40 years old now)
DE4DPAN DAN where did he say that
@@evanmiller9316 28:45
Bullet Philia thank you
@Weimar Republican i think there's a decent chance. he did one on spongebob after all.
Keep in mind, Twitch removes streams after 3 months or after tons of streams
And now it's gone
Emp's always smiling so cute
6:00 Stream starts
9:06 Video starts
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Thanks this was long
It seemed like he was constantly distracted with the subcount. There are times when he would completely ignore Emp who was asking him great questions and trying to engage the whole time. It was kinda annoying...
Tbh it is very annoying when he does that, especially when the subs aren't milestones
@@tyvamakes5226 Well, he's financially dependent on one of those things lol.
@@noahmendoza8548 I mean, can he NOT interrupt.
This would be the near equivalent of Cr1TiKaL giving a good question to Kaya and Kaya just cut it off with a Ridge sponser without going to that question back again.
The reason HBox did this video on stream is BECAUSE hes engaging with his viewers. Not acknowledging your new subs is very rude, given that they're paying you something akin to a Hulu subscription or half a Netflix sub. It might be annoying for you watching the video, but its rude if you were the one subbing and you didnt get recognition.
@@donaldjtran I do agree, but he should've thanked his subs and donos at the end of the stream to not cut off emp when he's talking.
EmpLemon is the Hungrybox of YTPs
Holy shit that's so true
Nah. Unlike hungrybox, emplemon was heavily respected by the greater youtube community. Hungrybox only received token support and casual sympathy.
Btw, emplemon turned vegan when PETA defiled Steve Irwin's anniversary.
@@jameslebro6598 Actually that's wrong. EmpLemon received tons of hate for making YTPs differently and would constantly be attacked on sites like YouChew. Much like HBox, he got hate for taking part in and influencing a meta in a way certain people didn't like.
@@JoeDan54 Youchew has shut down. And one of his most persistent haters (ex-YTP) has changed his way of thinking. So in a sense, the hate is decaying at best and dying at worst.
And I don't see how Emplemon could be hated now. Whereas with HBox, well, some could say he's technically the largest Smash channel.
@@jameslebro6598 Well I think much like EmpLemon, much of the hate for Hbox is starting to die down.
Also I didn't realize that Hbox's YT channel was so big, damn lol
Emp looks like the nicest guy in the world
I’m so glad he actually reacted to it. But I wasn’t expecting to see Emp sitting right next to him.
Thanks for this, I couldn’t drop into the stream today but now I can watch this instead :)
Emp should also do a full on interview with hungrybox not just a commentary, seemed like he had a lot of good questions I wanted to know the answer to that kinda got skipped over
wish HBox treated emp nicer, like a guest. then again, him talking over emp and the doc made him miss the nod towards' HBox's infidelity lol
What hint? I didn't get it.
@@M2orNot at 1:52:33 Emp asks if Hbox wanted to elaborate on all of the reasons why he’s hated personally, which was 5 months before All the controversy against other players.
I don't think it's too big, it feels like you and your friend watching something, which I think I'd the point
I think it was more just how they set it up that made it really awkward. They didn't really know each other beforehand, had to try talking over the stream audio while not shouting in each other's faces and they also weren't facing each other to talk to each other, while paying attention to the stream chat as well. If they just made this like a vod or something like Hot Juans there probably would have been a better back and forth.
Thanks for archiving the stream
The benefit of TH-cam
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Emp is such a fucking treasure
now we just need him to react with stanislav petrov
I'd die to watch this
Good luck trying to find a petrov for Emp to collab
woah emplemon looks way different than i thought he would
Me too. He looks adorable.
he looks nothing like what i imagine and exactly what i imagined.
Lol his face has been out there for ages I remember him in old mumkey Jones videos.
Same, every other time I've seen him he's had green skin...
This is great, i watched the shorter hungrybox version, but i love this
Do you love Hbox dodging every single time Emp gives an actual sick Q's by calling non-relevant twitch subs.
@@vandeurhineland6187 why the heck did you bring this up here?
@@vandeurhineland6187 no I didn’t love that
HOLY SHIT
IT'S HIM IN PERSON
top 1 collabs of all time
The audio starts working at 7:31
Audio got cut off for copyright
Amazing effort and documentary. This is an archive for the ages. It’s refreshing to get some history after mindlessly watching combo videos from mixed years and tournaments.
thanks so much for this man, I was too busy to watch the stream so it’s great to watch it
director's commentary is lit
Hey, is that John D. Spiral sitting next to Hbox?
I think it is, I hardly recognized him after his downward spiral
Diddy Kong is the best character in brawl actually. He's so strong he doesn't even need to be in the match he can summon an invisible banana to mess with people and win.
Emp looks like Jawed from the first TH-cam video
47:09 took him a while to make up his mind
idk why but emp kinda reminds me of tarantino
Idk why, but I see it.
I can't believe HBox doesn't get why they used kirby in the brawl trailer.
It's a joke because he doesn't receive an upgrade because he's so simple.
He even makes an expression that looks like he's confused.
Lowkey this is just a father and son watching a doc
Yeah, an American who claims that his father was on welfare as a child and never received a college education, but was able to "make something of himself." His mother is allegedly Chinese and "grew up under Chairman Mao"
33:11 Wtf was emp saying about ey players?!
I feel like I am better at playing Jigglypuff with a Keyboard on Melee than I can with a Gamecube Controller. This is coming from someone who has never had a Gamecube and has only played Melee through Dolphin Emulator.
I would have preferred if he reacted to the video WITHOUT THE PERSON WHO MADE IT RIGHT NEXT TO HIM
Judging by the fact that he watched the doc after a few days (and this stream coming a few months later), your hypothesis will have to rely on the fact that he streamed roughly as soon as emplemon uploaded since it'll be 3 hours long stream.
I’m calling him e.m.p lenon
i'd rather hbox watch the video alone to see his more objective view on it, but lemon was fanboying over him and it took away from the whole thing, but that's just me.
Look how Armada did it. He DISSECTED the video. Would've loved to see hbox do the same, ah well.
I would say, Emplemon's creation of the smash doc is based on his earlier experience with his other docs, especially with his video about Stanislav Petrov. And considering Emplemon never in his TH-cam career meet a top tier figure in person (the largest channels he met was with his friends in SOTY). So it may be obvious that Emp has not much ideas to remain professional.
With Hungrybox, of course he'll be biased to his own video. But you're right that Hbox should react to this video alone, but since he watched it already (even before this stream), there won't be surprises or critical thoughts in such a reaction video. Should he make a video reacting to this alone, I doubt it would be on the same level of that of 2Saint reacting the same video.
@Byleth Eisner I watched the stream and the reason that Armada was ragging on the Puff the whole time was that the Hbox-Puff relation appeared on the Never Ever episode no less than a third of its run.
Most of the valid criticism was that Emplemon was being contradictory (such as how Melee can't survive a top player like Hbox leaving despite Armada just doing that)
WRIS Armada got butthurt when emplemon called him out on him using a pink floaty character too. That video really showed the toxicity and ego of Armada tbh.
@@chavaspada i play puff but cmon now peach and puff are very different, and how is he butthurt?
@@bonzokop1233 emplemon said they both used pink floaty characters (which both are) and Armada got triggered at the comment and lashed out in his commentary at this clear joke, this shows his insecurity.
Also, why does it feel much more normal with 1.25? I checked the original and suffice to say, way too long.
Nah. :P
Why does emplemon look 15?
The Audio went muffled near the loser's bracket run
Copyright. Twitch took the stream down after a month.
Well. I guess Emp *does* have an HBox story after all.
I love Meili
38:00 .......... Sheik.....?
2Saint mention that in HIS stream reaction
King shit.
"Every Man a King" is a song co written by a Louisiana's Governor and United States Senator
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Omg thats what emplemon looks like hahaha
I wonder if emp understands the hungrybox hate now
I don't think the interruptions justify it.
Have you guys ever had conversations before? He wasn't interrupting him, it was just how people speak. I doubt EMP or HBOX even thought about that
@@hatiroth7919 I don't think conversations involved calling people's name for giving them money every single damn minute
@@tyvamakes5226 Irrelevant to what I was saying, but yeah I agree. It's kinda annoying, we'll just have to learn to get used to it though because that's how entertainers are primarily subsidized through streaming platforms.
@@hatiroth7919 Simply, that's how entrenched streaming culture works.
But when it's a TH-camr streaming live, the 'stream culture' is so foreign for many TH-cam regulars, that it's rare to even have donor shoutouts, let alone doing it every 5 minute or less.
hbox needed someone to make propaganda for him
the dudes kind of annoying but hey it's expected that the dude who made a documentary on a video game pro is a little pepega
I think he lowballs his questions to Hbox. Not to mention that, not only does Hbox keep calling donor's names every minute, but Emp does not have any authority in the Melee community beyond an outsider documentarian.
Nintendo supporting toxic ass esports is still stupid and a conflict of interest, no matter the "potential" profits.
Since when is Melee toxic?
@@HighDeafRadio Dude, the fucking Hungrybox crab incident and Leffen in general are not enough signs of toxicity to you?
@@mathunit1 leffens the goat
@@konodioda2208 His gameplay is fine, but his attitude is fucking toxic. That's literally the point of my comment.
@@mathunit1 Every sport has toxic fans & competitors, stupidest point ever.
kind of anyong he payed barely any attention to the vid
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