They do everything good on the track and off..and the reliability and cost to maintain them is second to none..plus state of the art suspension still..this generation yz 250 is the GOAT of all 2 strokes
@@DirtBikeMagazine Stock, it may actually be the most mellow 250 MX bike I ever owned. My slightly ported 1982 YZ 250 would smoke it off the line, my 86 YZ 250 was close. My 88CR 250, (slightly ported by me), was also soft on the bottom and middle, (like this bike is, then it hits a bit to a good and smooth top end), would smoke this bike to the 1st corner. My 97 KX250 was a monster off the bottom and middle, and my modified YZ250 is close, but smoother. You have to ride a 97 KX250,---and ride it a gear high in the corners and clutch out hard this time. Kent Howerton invented "clutching it" in the corners. Old school rules. :)
The low RPM detonation, (which my bike used to do), happens at the carb side of the cylinder, (mine did on 90 octane, to little really. But it showed where the damage\detonation started/is the worst). The stock reed valve stop plate blocks off about 50% of that rear transfer port tunnel, and hot exhaust gases remain at the head on the intake side, and it starts detonating there. You can cut most of that plate off, or get a v-force reed for more low end power, and use at least 93 octane.
I bought a brand new Yz250F and sold it a year later. Great bike but not for me. I like riding my old KX250 better. After I build my house, i will retire my KX as a show piece and replace it with either a Yz or Sx 250
Here’s a little tip from someone who worked at several Yamaha dealerships: yamaha just keeps cranking out the same bike with minor tweaks. They cost nothing to manufacture, literally nothing. Dealers order way too many of them because they cost almost nothing. Never pay retail for a Yamaha 2 stroke. If you walk into a dealer, they’ll have 3 or 4 models boxed from a few years ago and since there’s literally been almost no changes , buying a 2021 model isn’t any different, or a ‘22, etc and you can walk out with a $7900 bike for $4000 all day long cause they’ve got tons of these things in inventory. And if your local dealer doesn’t, just call around.
They cost nothing to build? Are you serious? Who pays for the raw materials, manpower on the assembly line, and freight to ship them from Japan. What about the tech at the dealership who has to uncrate and build it? I guess you worked at all those dealerships for free??
@@teeniorcitizen8115 my point is the costs are literally almost nothing. No R&D. They hit the books years ago. It’s all gravy now. Go to any Yamaha dealership and you’ll be able to negotiate purchase of a brand new multi-year old model for not UCHealth money and especially near the end of the year. They have crates of 2 year old, 3 year old, sometimes 4 and 5 year old models sitting in their warehouse and if they don’t, they know some dealer who does. Those who know Yamaha, really know Yamaha can walk in and buy a model 2 or 3 years old completely new and crated for incredibly cheap prices because they are so cheap to build, they build in quantity and they perform literally no R&D and thus no tooling.
@@dalepellerin Every YZ is shipped from Japan to the States. The freight companies don't do that for free. Every manufacturer has to pay the freight cost to get the unit to the port by ship. Then they have to pay a rail company to transport it to a warehouse, and then they pay a trucking company to transport it to the dealer. None of that is done for free. This happens with every single unit and every brand. And again, what about the raw materials and assembly cost? "Literally nothing to produce" was your statement. If you worked at a dealership in any capacity beyond a lot porter you would know that statement was ignorant.
@@teeniorcitizen8115 You're missing the point. Those are old costs from years ago when the bikes were ordered. I'm not saying you're going to get the bike for free. I'm saying you can walk into almost any Yamaha dealership right now and buy a 2022, maybe even a 2021 Yamaha let's say YZ250 for around $4000 instead of $8000. They have tons of models that are brand new but multiple years old because it is Yamaha's strategy to do this, to over manufacture and they have very enticing models of procurement for Dealers. This is a great thing for anyone wanting a brand new Yamaha as everyone knows that Yamaha never updates anything so what's the difference between a brand new older model and a new model? Nothing...
The reason why the YZ250 2-stroke is the most popular dirt bike in the world,---is because it is still pretty much affordable to buy and maintain. Plus, it has great suspension. I was really into the bike development in the 70's and 80's, (we could buy our own bikes and race as a kit with a low paying job back then, so the sport was 10 times larger than now), it was a factory race of its own. But bike prices did not go up much until,the 1986 production rule (for the USA only, not Europe), and then the 4-stroke forced on the industry by a dictatorship we call the EPA. The sport is dying in large part, because we can't afford a space ship that is expensive to maintain. The sport was so much better, when you did not have to be pretty rich to do it. How about a "full on commitment" to affordable bikes again?
I was told on a Mexican Yamaha dealer that they are literally illegal to bring into the country :( I have the second best bike being a TC250 2022, the last carburated... became illegal soon afterwards and TPI, EFI, TBI tech is welcomed by Mexican administration.
@@DirtBikeMagazine We did not keep our private tracks a secrete,--and they were a lot tougher than that one. It is a good vet track though. I would love it today. :)
You did not mention that the bike is too tall for the average height of a man or a bit taller. 34 inch inseam may touch the ground. The motor does not have a lot of lower end power, (try a 1997 KX250), and the mid is pretty soft too. It screams on top, with big brakes, in a futile effort to keep up with a 450 on a fast 450 MX track. Ain't gonna happen. Now that the power and seat height is high, it is not good for the woods either. The bike is "great" at nothing. So I fixed mine, and never had to do so much work to make it a great bike, for the woods, (or this track). I can see we forgot how to ride a 2-stroke. You don't need race fuel because you have an aftermarket pipe, but you do need to rejet the carb. The jetting is so rich, you will ruin your jersey from the raw oil droplets coming out of the silencer and sticking to the back of your jersey. I lowered my 2019 .75" suspenders, the seat 1", got rid of the batman plastic, added FMF Gnarly pipe, V-Force reeds, and lowered the cylinder (no base gasket, but seal it well), for higher compression and to get the ex-port time closer to the lower rpm FMF pipe, (where the big gains are made, porting and pipe match). Use 100 octane gas now. Now--this bike has good low end power, can short shift at 190lbs with stock gearing with out it falling on its face, and maybe lost 500 top rpm (forgot to put a tach on it stock. The higher compression also leans the jetting, and I still have about 35% more to go,--but it is not spitting on the jersey now. if you don't know how to set up a bike,--you will not get the best out of this machine. Doug in Michigan
And with the lowered bike--equal talent, you don't have a prayer in the corners, especially with out a berm, on the stock height bike. 35 years ago, MXA would not have even ridden such a tall bike for a test. The ones they complained about are short now. lol
ummmm. We have tall and shorter riders. The YZ250 has a pretty average seat height and is easy to ride . Our video editor Travis Fant owns 3 of them. 5'8 in height and has no issues with seat height.
2 stroke ?people rarelly shift . Most are scared of 2 stroke . Yamaha should teach how to race two stroke . You'll never see people in highest gear . You need very big gear on wheel to run highest . Most gear thhem for 100 mph they ll never go that fast
The power on this bike is mostly at high rpm's, no matter what the mag says. I had bikes with great low end power, and this is not one of them. He is coming out of the corners a gear low, (gotta use the clutch more for that), so he is topped out fast. No 250 2-stroke dirt bike made for MX will go 100 miles an hour. if you try to gear yours up to do that, I will smoke you on the start and out of every corner. But---IMO, this would be a better desert race bike performance wise, than it is for anything else when stock.
@@DirtBikeMagazine On 2-strokes,----25 years ago? Everybody was going 4-stroke after that, and it was the edge that even kept some racers out of retirement. So, if he is 50 now, he would hit those corners a gear higher and clutch it,--like Kent Howerton showed us. lol We forgot how to ride a 2-stroke. Simple as that. I like his bar set up though. The high bar freestyle set up is sure not for me.
@@DirtBikeMagazine i get the notification when the premier is released. then lose the video in current ones once its released. I miss normal style like the rest of youtube does.
At the end of 2021 I switched from 20+ years of KTM to the YZ250X. I am still amazed at the quality and reliability of the Yamaha 2 stroke. The engine has bucket loads of power. I gave up the OEM electric start on the KTM’s but gained the best stock suspension and it’s a game changer. Almost infinite amount of mods either factory or aftermarket readily available makes the bike a no brainer. There is no better bike for your dollar and budget period.
@@jasonspellicy We are not good at figuring things out anymore. It is a generational problem that warrants suing our schools IMO. Ask them how their math is?
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They do everything good on the track and off..and the reliability and cost to maintain them is second to none..plus state of the art suspension still..this generation yz 250 is the GOAT of all 2 strokes
AGREED
White plastic is sick on that thing that’s for sure
After the Honda cr250 2 strokes
Honda hasent made shit in years LOL@@Tommyluu809
Honda LOL they never made any real great 250 2 strokes. Suzuki and yamaha are the best period. @Tommyluu809
"One of the greatest bikes of all times "
Exactly that👏👏👏
I want one so bad, love the fact it is unchanged really and still has kickstart. Retro mans bike
Two Stroke air cooler 1975 YZ250 yellow banana monster was my bike at 14. Tim has changed.
Thanks, great video.
Those were the best years!
Thanks for watching!
You are right. Thank you for cheering
1978 yz250 at 14 back in 1980. Absolutely Awesome bike.
DAMON BRADSHAW!!!! Throw back... love it
Got my '24 in Team Yamaha Blue. You are right about it having a hard hit, sheesh!!!
They get wild at times hahaha
@@DirtBikeMagazine Stock, it may actually be the most mellow 250 MX bike I ever owned. My slightly ported 1982 YZ 250 would smoke it off the line, my 86 YZ 250 was close. My 88CR 250, (slightly ported by me), was also soft on the bottom and middle, (like this bike is, then it hits a bit to a good and smooth top end), would smoke this bike to the 1st corner. My 97 KX250 was a monster off the bottom and middle, and my modified YZ250 is close, but smoother.
You have to ride a 97 KX250,---and ride it a gear high in the corners and clutch out hard this time. Kent Howerton invented "clutching it" in the corners.
Old school rules. :)
Riders here stay away from 2stroke. Am glad i grew up riding 125 smoker, the yz250 feel right at home, just hits harder.
Great review! Nice bike!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Love the format of this video.
Appreciate it a lot!
I got one a week ago, but then as the italian version as a fantic xx250
That's What I'm Talkin Bout 🔥👊.. Appreciate ya Fellas ✌️😉
Thanks for watching!
Man i want one now!! Getting back to 2 strokes soon🥰
Perfect analogy
Thank You!
They change the colour like 90' YZ. Bring back my memories of my ride1994 YZ 250. I call it Buffalo for the strength and durability.
The low RPM detonation, (which my bike used to do), happens at the carb side of the cylinder, (mine did on 90 octane, to little really. But it showed where the damage\detonation started/is the worst). The stock reed valve stop plate blocks off about 50% of that rear transfer port tunnel, and hot exhaust gases remain at the head on the intake side, and it starts detonating there. You can cut most of that plate off, or get a v-force reed for more low end power, and use at least 93 octane.
I just want a carb’d 2 stroke 250. No fluff or bs. I have an older CR 250 already. Thank you Yamaha.
I wish theyd make an enduro version with a headlight and estart. Theyd steal a huge chunk of the market from ktm.
That would be cool!
Yes this right here.... I'd much rather buy Japanese
I hope they will chance the tripleclamps to 22mm.
Hello from virginia
I bought a brand new Yz250F and sold it a year later. Great bike but not for me. I like riding my old KX250 better.
After I build my house, i will retire my KX as a show piece and replace it with either a Yz or Sx 250
Nice! Nothing wrong with having a two smoker!
Is the engine the same tho ?
I just got mine 😎
Awesome one of our editors Travis Fant got a new one too!
Clicked on this video knowing it's the same. Still watching
Heck ya! Can't beat a solid YZ
Here’s a little tip from someone who worked at several Yamaha dealerships: yamaha just keeps cranking out the same bike with minor tweaks. They cost nothing to manufacture, literally nothing. Dealers order way too many of them because they cost almost nothing. Never pay retail for a Yamaha 2 stroke.
If you walk into a dealer, they’ll have 3 or 4 models boxed from a few years ago and since there’s literally been almost no changes , buying a 2021 model isn’t any different, or a ‘22, etc and you can walk out with a $7900 bike for $4000 all day long cause they’ve got tons of these things in inventory. And if your local dealer doesn’t, just call around.
They cost nothing to build? Are you serious? Who pays for the raw materials, manpower on the assembly line, and freight to ship them from Japan. What about the tech at the dealership who has to uncrate and build it? I guess you worked at all those dealerships for free??
@@teeniorcitizen8115 my point is the costs are literally almost nothing. No R&D. They hit the books years ago. It’s all gravy now. Go to any Yamaha dealership and you’ll be able to negotiate purchase of a brand new multi-year old model for not UCHealth money and especially near the end of the year. They have crates of 2 year old, 3 year old, sometimes 4 and 5 year old models sitting in their warehouse and if they don’t, they know some dealer who does.
Those who know Yamaha, really know Yamaha can walk in and buy a model 2 or 3 years old completely new and crated for incredibly cheap prices because they are so cheap to build, they build in quantity and they perform literally no R&D and thus no tooling.
And the shipping costs were accrued years ago. It’s an overhead sunk cost sitting in inventory.
@@dalepellerin Every YZ is shipped from Japan to the States. The freight companies don't do that for free. Every manufacturer has to pay the freight cost to get the unit to the port by ship. Then they have to pay a rail company to transport it to a warehouse, and then they pay a trucking company to transport it to the dealer. None of that is done for free. This happens with every single unit and every brand. And again, what about the raw materials and assembly cost? "Literally nothing to produce" was your statement. If you worked at a dealership in any capacity beyond a lot porter you would know that statement was ignorant.
@@teeniorcitizen8115 You're missing the point. Those are old costs from years ago when the bikes were ordered. I'm not saying you're going to get the bike for free. I'm saying you can walk into almost any Yamaha dealership right now and buy a 2022, maybe even a 2021 Yamaha let's say YZ250 for around $4000 instead of $8000. They have tons of models that are brand new but multiple years old because it is Yamaha's strategy to do this, to over manufacture and they have very enticing models of procurement for Dealers. This is a great thing for anyone wanting a brand new Yamaha as everyone knows that Yamaha never updates anything so what's the difference between a brand new older model and a new model? Nothing...
I almost want to buy one just to have it as it doesn't seem like full on commitment from manufactures and feels like one off run.
The reason why the YZ250 2-stroke is the most popular dirt bike in the world,---is because it is still pretty much affordable to buy and maintain. Plus, it has great suspension. I was really into the bike development in the 70's and 80's, (we could buy our own bikes and race as a kit with a low paying job back then, so the sport was 10 times larger than now), it was a factory race of its own. But bike prices did not go up much until,the 1986 production rule (for the USA only, not Europe), and then the 4-stroke forced on the industry by a dictatorship we call the EPA. The sport is dying in large part, because we can't afford a space ship that is expensive to maintain.
The sport was so much better, when you did not have to be pretty rich to do it. How about a "full on commitment" to affordable bikes again?
Looks like a morgue worker in the white gear😅 10 times lighter? You mean one tenth, surely, but that would be incredibly light
I was told on a Mexican Yamaha dealer that they are literally illegal to bring into the country :( I have the second best bike being a TC250 2022, the last carburated... became illegal soon afterwards and TPI, EFI, TBI tech is welcomed by Mexican administration.
Great video! Any one want to share this location? Definitely high desert tried to pay attention to land marks, not sure. Thanks
Thanks for checking it out. We keep our secrets ahhaha
@@DirtBikeMagazine We did not keep our private tracks a secrete,--and they were a lot tougher than that one. It is a good vet track though. I would love it today. :)
You did not mention that the bike is too tall for the average height of a man or a bit taller. 34 inch inseam may touch the ground.
The motor does not have a lot of lower end power, (try a 1997 KX250), and the mid is pretty soft too. It screams on top, with big brakes, in a futile effort to keep up with a 450 on a fast 450 MX track. Ain't gonna happen. Now that the power and seat height is high, it is not good for the woods either. The bike is "great" at nothing. So I fixed mine, and never had to do so much work to make it a great bike, for the woods, (or this track). I can see we forgot how to ride a 2-stroke.
You don't need race fuel because you have an aftermarket pipe, but you do need to rejet the carb.
The jetting is so rich, you will ruin your jersey from the raw oil droplets coming out of the silencer and sticking to the back of your jersey.
I lowered my 2019 .75" suspenders, the seat 1", got rid of the batman plastic, added FMF Gnarly pipe, V-Force reeds, and lowered the cylinder (no base gasket, but seal it well), for higher compression and to get the ex-port time closer to the lower rpm FMF pipe, (where the big gains are made, porting and pipe match). Use 100 octane gas now.
Now--this bike has good low end power, can short shift at 190lbs with stock gearing with out it falling on its face, and maybe lost 500 top rpm (forgot to put a tach on it stock. The higher compression also leans the jetting, and I still have about 35% more to go,--but it is not spitting on the jersey now.
if you don't know how to set up a bike,--you will not get the best out of this machine. Doug in Michigan
And with the lowered bike--equal talent, you don't have a prayer in the corners, especially with out a berm, on the stock height bike.
35 years ago, MXA would not have even ridden such a tall bike for a test. The ones they complained about are short now. lol
ummmm. We have tall and shorter riders. The YZ250 has a pretty average seat height and is easy to ride . Our video editor Travis Fant owns 3 of them. 5'8 in height and has no issues with seat height.
We aren't MXA . Not even remotely close
2 stroke ?people rarelly shift . Most are scared of 2 stroke . Yamaha should teach how to race two stroke . You'll never see people in highest gear . You need very big gear on wheel to run highest . Most gear thhem for 100 mph they ll never go that fast
We don't think our test rider was scared of the 2 stroke. He raced Supercross and Outdoors as a pro
@@DirtBikeMagazine in general . For average joe dirt people . I mean unless he test only for himself
The power on this bike is mostly at high rpm's, no matter what the mag says. I had bikes with great low end power, and this is not one of them. He is coming out of the corners a gear low, (gotta use the clutch more for that), so he is topped out fast. No 250 2-stroke dirt bike made for MX will go 100 miles an hour. if you try to gear yours up to do that, I will smoke you on the start and out of every corner. But---IMO, this would be a better desert race bike performance wise, than it is for anything else when stock.
@@DirtBikeMagazine On 2-strokes,----25 years ago? Everybody was going 4-stroke after that, and it was the edge that even kept some racers out of retirement.
So, if he is 50 now, he would hit those corners a gear higher and clutch it,--like Kent Howerton showed us. lol
We forgot how to ride a 2-stroke. Simple as that. I like his bar set up though. The high bar freestyle set up is sure not for me.
Go Honda, not Yamahasucki, that would be like building a Kawasuki i think that is how they came up with Yamahasucki.
Not everyone likes gay Hondas.
I miss when these videos didn’t do the premier. I never get to watch these anymore. Go back to normal release please.
Sorry we just want to let our subs know when stuff is coming =/
@@DirtBikeMagazine i get the notification when the premier is released. then lose the video in current ones once its released. I miss normal style like the rest of youtube does.
At the end of 2021 I switched from 20+ years of KTM to the YZ250X. I am still amazed at the quality and reliability of the Yamaha 2 stroke. The engine has bucket loads of power. I gave up the OEM electric start on the KTM’s but gained the best stock suspension and it’s a game changer. Almost infinite amount of mods either factory or aftermarket readily available makes the bike a no brainer. There is no better bike for your dollar and budget period.
@@jasonspellicy We are not good at figuring things out anymore. It is a generational problem that warrants suing our schools IMO.
Ask them how their math is?
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Now there starting to look like a gasgas or ktm tc starting to get ugly junky electric looking crap
Pieces of crap electric looking why buy this crap really
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