What Pull Through Sharpeners ACTUALLY Do to Your Knifes Edge & Why You SHOULDNT Use Them
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.ค. 2024
- IN THIS VIDEO I SHOW WHAT PULL THROUGH KNIFE SHARPENERS DO TO YOUR EDGE AND WHY YOU SHOULD NOT USE THEM ON YOUR GOOD KNIVES, I SHOW WHAT A PROPERLY SHARPENED EDGE LOOKS LIKE VS A PULL THROUGH SHARPENED EDGE AND WHY ITS SO BAD FOR YOUR KNIFES EDGE, I ALSO SHOW YOU WHAT YOU SHOULD USE INSTEAD. AND WHEN IT MIGHT BE OK TO USE, I SHOW A MICROSCOPIC VIEW OF SHARPENED EDGES AND WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS.
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Man you literally broke everything down better than I've ever seen anyone do about sharpening! This was a great and very informative video awesome job!
Thank yiu
I've been PREACHING THIS FOR YEARS. A pull thru is not "sharpening " a knife. Literally all its doing is stripping off metal to a shape leaving nothing more then a wire edge that fails as soon as you cut anything. There is no micro serrations in the edge because as you said the scratches are running the wrong way.
They get a knife more than sharp enough for 99% of people. If they didn't work, they wouldn't be used. Anyone that uses stones, plates or systems is in the 1% and they're just sharpening for fun, not function. That edge they spend 40 minutes working won't look like that after a few uses. Most people that own knife collections and sharpen them to hair whittling don't use the vast majority of their knives, it's a hobby.
@@bmw9616 Source: Trust me bro
For those with headphones, if you unplug the jack slightly, there is a good chance that you will get mono sound, it's then very bearable.
This vidéo is extremely well explained !
Youre a braver man than me, running a sprint pm2 and sebenza through a pull through sharpener. It hurt my soul, im going to go hug my knife case to let them know its ok and I'd never do that.
Great video and hopefully people will learn from your sacrifice. I salute you.
Yeah it wasn't easy, but I did it prepared to completely reprofile them, I wanted to get the point across and imo if it can't sharpen even s35 well then what good is it
This is an awesome video! Well explained and entertaining. Well done, Jerad!
Absolutely the best explanation on this I've ever seen! Great job and thank you!!
Excellent video...your diagrams and explanations are really clear and concise
I knew that those sharpeners should to be avoided, but never exactly why. Now I do. Thank you very much! 👍🏻
It hurt my soul when u put those knives through the sharpener
He knew what he was doing when he put those knives through it 😂 did it just to mess with us
All for science.
As a ginger.... what's a soul?
I agree completely when that CRK came out my heart sank 😢
Hurt my teeth for some reason. Like nails on a chalkboard
Great breakdown man. Thank you team J&K
You are getting a lot better at TH-cam videos. Keep up the good work.
Thank you
I often comment on this. Not just better, but better than everybody else 😀 - Kara’s skills.
This is some really good knowledge described in a good fashion. Subscribed !
Awesome video man!
Thank you for making this video legit the only one like it I can find
Very useful info, thanks. 👍
Great video for beginners!
Great video... A lot to learn here... Thnx
Great video!!!
Wow! I did not know this but it explains the results I have been getting with these gadgets and my frustrations getting a nice edge.
Well done, thanks
great video 👍👍
Great video! i’ve been trying to convince my father to stop using a pull-through sharpener on all his kitchen knives, maybe this video will help, lol
Great vid showing how these pull through sharpeners actually damage your knives. They do make a great ferro rod scraper (the carbide ones) but that's about it. A micro serrated edge is the best at getting the most out of any type of knife steel and making it last as long as possible. Thanks for the great vid Jerad and keep making sharp things fun and enjoyable
Lots of facts and very info dense video. You know your stuff mang.
I appreciate that
Man I love these public service ones Brother. Love your edits. Comedy was very well done. I enjoy y’all mixing in up n getting creative. Talent… Thank.
Best demonstration and use of visuals that I have seen yet. Well done.
Thank you
Wonderful video
I’m so glad to have found your channel and to have seen this video!! I had watched a video by a professional chef who used a warthog pull-through to hone his expensive Japanese knives. My first thought was that has to be doing more harm than good and you have confirmed that thought. I received more knowledge on what creates a sharp knife edge in this short video than I did in the other several hundred knife sharpening videos I have watched combined!
This was a great video with very useful information. Loved the quality of it too. Thank you for showing why ppl should not use a pull through. Also how long did it take you to fix the edges?
Great video ... the best explanation I've seen for not using these sharpeners
Is the pro edge made by raythesharpener okay to use or is it just as bad as the others
Guys this also applies to carbide bar sharpeners equally as well... like "Sharpensbest" for the love of God do not ever run a piece of carbide down your edges.... if you can't sharpen your selves that's what people like my self are for...
F N great vid. I’m learning
good video 😀
@Neeves do u have a kizer code or link? Getting ready to pick up 3 of the new kizers.
Great video man! Finally, an explanation of why the wrong way is wrong. Just love a sharp edge, right down to stopping. The small, multi-edge sharpener isn't hard to store either! Hopefully your video will be a help to folks, so they can slice better!
My soul screams in pain!
Not a Chris Reeve!
It's like sawing your blade instead of sharpening it. Everytime you did that it hurt my soul. This was a great video!
Need help deciding between manix 2, kansept convict, or the new exciton if the 344 price is justifiable.
Is the Victorinox dual sharpener also good
I stopped using pull throughs about 2 years ago, I bought a full set of shapton ceramic stones expensive but I definitely don't regret it, really isn't that hard to learn how to do took me a week or so till I was able to get a mirror edge on kitchen knifes and it's infinitly sharper than a pull through.
Definitely a skill worth learning it saves money in the long run.
Highly recommend learning how do it its a satisfying to take something as dull as a butter knife an turn it into a razror sharp edge you could shave with, but I'd stay away from aluminium oxide whetstone / soak stones they are very very soft they are cheap which may be appealing for a beginner, but it's the opposite they are very hard to use with them being soft use to much pressure you will round the edge also need to constantly keep leveling them out after every few uses, spend extra and get ceramic like shaptons or diamond DMT are good.
When I was growing up and learning to sharpen, that's what I was using.
Please HELP, I just got a Brad and Taylor pull through sharpener. Is that okay
Pull thru sharpeners like this is like raw dogging. It may get the job done kinda at that point in time but the damage done is forever
My left ear really enjoyed that intro 😆 No worries at all, can still hear everything fine. Is the RØDE Wireless Go microphone set to Split or Merged? I would just set the microphone to Merged as long as you are inside where there isn't a lot of noise so it records in stereo. That way you don't have to mess around that much to Balance the Split mode in editing from the left and right channels or do the recovery in worst case scenario.
I'm not sure, it must be set to one side I guess for each mix, guess I need to go into the app and figure it out thank you
@@NeevesKnives No worries at all. It can sometimes be a little pain to set up any new audio equipment. Even the "plug and go" USB microphones (if one is an audio snob) take some tweaking by running them through audio software like Audacity, Adobe Audition, or any DAW (digital audio workstation) before importing the audio into the Video workstation/editing software. My biggest advice will be to just do some quick 10-30 second tests to make sure the microphone/s are set up the way you want them, save the profiles and they "should" be ready to go. If there is anything you need DM or Email me. And I'll jump on Discord or Zoom or whatever. I bet you have everything figured out in no time, could have just been that they unsynced for some reason when the mic & receiver/transmitter turned on. Audio issues happen to everyone. Take care Kara, and Jerad. Keep up the amazing content
“Wow, you did these? Freehand?” Fuck that got me good 😂
I figured this would be the best video to ask my question and my question is after you get done aggressively sharpening you are knife on your Diamond Stones is it okay to go to a ceramic before you strop?
Great video and great explanation. I do still love my work sharp blade grinding attachment for the ken onion but i still wouldn't pull through haha
I flinched when he put the PM2 and the CRK thru that piece of crap. Jared you could of just used a Boker Kalashnikov or something, thats what i buy people after they lose a Spyderco i give them.
I got this sharpening honing rod that has so far kept me happy, but ultimately I need to learn the free hand much better.
I agree with Michael Scott. "No! God, please, no! No!" when I saw the K390 being dragged through the carbide. I cringed. I would have gotten the point with 8CR13mov. But I appreciate the sacrifice in the name of science.
Damn! and re-Damn! Thank you for for the "edge-ucation" one of the best videos I have seen on this topic and yes! I have than Worksharp sharpener (as well as the Smith crappy quick pull throughs...).
So the only sharpeners are the stones or belt sanders ??
How about a block sharpener, mine makes my knives shaving sharp
Love your content sir and one day I would like to send in one of my prized knives and pay you to mirror sharpen it.
I’m using a pull through sharpener while watching this. 😘
Hahaha I used to laugh my ass off at the fng's in the kitchen trying to sharpen their knives with those things.😄😃 6,7,8, pulls haha.. Wondering why it won't sharpen up. Had me rolling.😄😅😆😂
Great Show Bro.
Isn't alot of factory edges abit concave due to them being sharpened on wheels, compared to the flat to convex you get from a flat stone (convex is for freehanded)
all i can hear was the " der der der" and Steve Corell parts. oh and faint background music.
Either way, great info, love everything you do! Keep it up!
Im so curious what an argument between Jerad and Sharpens Best Guy would look like...
What about Speedy Sharp?
The audio is all messed up. But it still works.
I learned how to sharpen knives many yearw ago..i learned on whet stones. I love my smith diamond hone..i repair expensive knives for people, who used what i call knife killers..once you learn free hand you will enjoy sharpening
I would love to study your analytics. Cheers
Just hit me up
This was quite helpful seeing it magnified etc. Thanks. Seems to me like I should save the carbide sharpener for repairing an edge and use a diamond rod or stone to sharpen. Looks like a dollar store sharpening stone would be better for sharpening than carbide.
Yes I would say pretty much avoid them unless it's a desperate situation,
I was sold one of those sharpeners at a sporting goods store once. It ate my blade, literally.
Another fine edge . I’m due to obsess over an edge . It’s been a while
Now I see 👍
This sharpener the best in the world for sharpen shirogorov and rockstead knife!
I had some dude try to tell me that pull through sharpeners were better than stones or precision sharpening rigs. that guy was so annoying.
Toughest video that I have ever seen, i was crying trough all the video since minute 5 😢
So, I have a kitchen pull through sharpener from Ikea that has ceramic rollers of varying grit. I examined the pattern, and it is a lot more vertical than what you have shown here.
I still prefer to hand sharpen, but in a pinch I use the pull through.
Edit: I use it for kitchen knives, not my nice knives!
Yeah as I said in video if it's super cheap kitchen knives then no big deal I guess, I personally just properly sharpen everything and hone when needed which can keep a knife sharp a long time. Your edge lasts like 10× as long with a proper edge
@@NeevesKnives I need to sit down and sharpen all my knives again, I'll put that on my to do list
You know, I wish I had seen this before selling a couple of budget knives I had unfortunately used pull-through sharpeners, before learning how a simple sharpening stone worked.
crazy thing is I got almost the exact same thing as a gift from a sharpening supplier 😂
😆
Well i just do like pull thru sharpeners as field "edge repair" tool. Its small and i do use it instead of really coarse stone to get some V shape on the edge i damaged. Then i will sharepen it properly on a small stone and its really not bad edge considering you can carry all equipment needed in your pocket and repair damaged edge in the field and quickly.
Could you make the audio stereo next time? Please?
You should make horror films in your spare time😅. Great video!
i just might
Can someone explain to me why a microbevel from a ceramic rod is good but one from a pull through is bad? I honestly don't know any of this stuff I'm totally new to this world
It's because of the teeth they are ripped off with pull through I explain it in this video, a Ceramic can add the micro serrations a pull through tears them off
@@NeevesKnives thank you
Couple of old hickory butcher knives are giving me a hard time getting them sharp. I don't have the patience for it
Have you seen Sharpens Best sharpener?
Damn you Jerad you killed me when you pulled that CRK through that cheap pocket sharpener, stop the abuse brother I cant take it anymore , you broke it down perfectly though, appreciate you willing to play with peoples emotions for the sake of science 😁😭
Hello, Jerad & Kara;
Yeah, these things have limited utility at best.
One thing they are good for is sharpening an axe or hatchet but not as a regular thing.
Only when you are in a pinch & need to very quickly "tough up" the edge.
Even then it is not a 'proper' edge for a chopping tool.
They work fair on cheap chinese stainless pairing knives & such.
Some 'knives' have very poor steel & those are the ones to use on pull-through sharpeners.
I bought a couple, the ceramic rods are 'ok' for touching up properly sharpened edges.
I use a few Scandi ground knives for wood work & carving.
Usually a Scandi grind will be *not* be properly 'sharpened' w/ a 'pull-through'.
The angle is all wrong for Scandis & many other knives.
BTW, I think you should check out 'sword sharpening' techniques.
You may be surprised by the ancient sword sharpening.
Have a GREAT day, Neighbor!
My left ear enjoyed this video!
this guy knows his shit...
Omg lol watched the first 5 mins with one headphone in and was wondering why you made a video where you were talking with no sound lol I could only hear the music and the voices in some of the clips
When you "sliced" the paper after pulling the Sebenza through, the only reason it started was you caught the sharpened party you couldn't get to with that pull through thing😂
lol true
@@NeevesKnives I have ceramic V rods I use before stropping. I destroyed a small SOG Keychain knife years ago with a pull through. I cringed when you pulled the Sebenza out!
@@sharpknivesrule6006 I KNOW BUT I HAD TO MAKE A POINT
Using those sharpeners on a CRK Sebenza or another high end knife should be considered a crime
Hi Jerad, do you have a link to the microscope. This video was painful to watch 😱
Great video, your voice only coming from the left side
But the guy at the county fair told me these are like the best sharpeners and I shouldn't believe what I see on the old interwebs.
Appears you should've listed to Mr. Scott no NO Nooo NOOOOOOO
Don't know if it's just me, but I can only hear through my left headphone
Really? I'm sorry maybe my mic has a bad setting thank you I will look into it immediately
Same here, left only. Still a great video, thanks for the education!
@@strikenryken it was unwatchable for me.
Wtf nooooo not the pm2😢
Thank you for another great video brother. I had that Smith pocket sharpener in my hunting bag to touch up my knife in the field.
That was until you showed that Workshop field sharpener. I love that little sucker. At our last family get together my cousin asked about the knives everyone was carrying. His was pretty dull so I got the Workshop out of the truck and put a half decent edge on it for him. Lol, I touched up three more and sold as many.
Thanks brother
Yeah I think the WS is a must have for anyone that carries a knife
Didn't even use the fine ceramic
Not gonna lie, K390 on pull through sharpener was painful to watch. Ribbed honing rod and pull through are really bad.
I use them on machetes (cheap Walmart ones). I have used them on quality knives....until I saw a video explaining why not to.
I mostly agree with all u say. Pull sharpeners do a shit job, but are enough for cheap and soft knives. I also know that scratch pattern works like microscopic saw, but as the name suggests on the microscopic level, let's be honest its impact is marginal and we do not need to make it harder then it is
This hurts my soul
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I only use my pull through sharpeners on my cheap gas station knives