Is This Sharpener Just A Gimmick or is it LEGIT
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ม.ค. 2024
- TESTING OUT A SHARPENER THAT IS SIMILAR TO THE SHARPENS BEST SHARPENING TOOL, TESTING THIS SHARPENER ON A MICROSCOPIC LEVEL TO SEE WHAT IT IS OR IS NOT DOING FOR YOUR KNIFE EDGE.THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE FASTEST AND EASIEST KNIFE SHARPENER BUT DOES IT ACTUALLY WORK, THE SHARPENS BEST SHARPENING TOOL USES A PIECE OR CARBIDE ON A HANDLE FOR EDGE SHARPENING.
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My favorite thing about this dude is it’s always at these outdoors/gun shows. Never blade show.
Hahaha yeah he’s hoping that they haven’t been wearing ear protection and have given themselves brain damage😂. I wish you a beautiful day/weekend most importantly of all stay safe and healthy my friend 🫵👍
I have one that I bought from him at the Atlanta Blade Show. Not sure what year, but it's been about 6-8 yrs ago now.
He is at the Atlanta blade show.
Main room, right hand side. Picked up his product in 2019. Jarred I would be happy to mail the product to you. You don't have to return it to me. I can't really tell you if it works or not. I haven't tried to use the product. I have a TS Prof. K03 etc.
They work for a quick rudimentary edge when it out and about, but I wouldn't use it on my good knives. I have the sharpal version, it actually has a side with coarse and side with fine for knocking burr off. It works okay on D2 9cr. Never tried k390 or anything like that
U use the corner
Love the vids! Always informational
more misinformation
Very respectful review Jared! Your a stand up dude
this video is full of info great upload Neeves, way more straight to the point and clearly explained than other channels that go off on useless rambles.
Thank you for the video. Very informative
Great vid. Was curious bout this… i think on chisel grind pruning tools, this thing, might be worth its weight but i dunno. Thx for trying to be SO nice about the whole thing. Very diplomatic. Bravo.
This is an awesome video. Learned so much about sharpening and I already thought I knew a lot lol
Waiting for a video like this for months now. Good stuff man
All the knowledge you drop with sharpening has definitely helped me hone my skills over the years… no pun intended
Be careful what you believe when he says it. I know for an absolute fact he lies about other products. And he does it deliberately.
Great video you went into detail!
Great video!! It’s hard to replace what truly works!!
Great video man. Realy good info.
Very informative video. Thanks.
Jared dude I really want to take a tour of your workshop/studio. Let alone your total collection of knives and sharpeners/gear. We get brief glimpses of it from afar and I am in awe of all you got going on there bro!
As always thank you greatly for what you do! You are appreciated by many.
Thanks for the info as always
Thanks you, very good explanation and diagrams. This explains some mistakes I've been making in sharpening. I think I need to invest in a good guided angle sharpener.
Glad it was helpful!
I always made hard work of trying to sharpen a knife, the worksharp field sharpener has changed everything for me, luv it!!!
You having the microscope is a game changer for you and the videos
Jared, I love how you tried so hard, even with your knowledge and experience in sharpening steel, to give this thing the benefit of the doubt. And you never talked down about a certain someone who most of us would consider to be selling snake oil. Thanks for keeping it real, while adding a touch of class.
Yeah I'm going to continue doing tests in order to really show what's going on, I will be doing an edge retention test on the real one
Yesss! @@NeevesKnives
It's only snake oil for the disenchanted. 🤭🥰
@@NeevesKnives oh, yeah, Jared tried so hard. The man has absolutely no comprehension of how to use Carbide Sharpener. Not once did he touch the knife in the correct manner with a Sharpener he was showing. And not once did he show one of my sharpners. The man is an absolute fraud.
@@bradbuckner9496you’re talking about a guy that’s been a contributor to the knife community for years and calling him a fraud over a review that was politely done. You’re too fucking old to be acting like a child. Go lay down and take a nap. And don’t bring shit to the market if your skin is so thin you comb through comment sections acting like a baby. Maybe you’re not cut out for owning a business, albeit one that’s not that great. You should be ashamed of how you’re acting in here. He said in the beginning of the video he didn’t know the one he had wasn’t yours, so where’s the “fraud” exactly?
These things have been around for years, my mum had one in her kitchen knife drawer when I was a kid. Seeing this just brought that memory back 😂
It's a great little on the spot companion for those new ultra hard steels.
I am still a fan of carbon steels though, especially 1095, but I still enjoy me some 12C27, 440C, D2 and what else goodness is there.
I like to be able to fix up my blade on the spot, and I like my fixed edc to be though and hard both.
You were especially nice to this product. I’m a machinist and I think we always look for the optimal condition and use the right tool for the job. Butter knife for butter and Box knife for boxes. Last night I broke down a 77” TV box triple layer with a $6 Kobalt folding utility knife. I can sharpen it in two seconds
Yeah I have to be especially with a knock off however I have the real deal coming the full thing in order to do an edge retention test at that point I can push a bit more
@@NeevesKnivesfor the love of all the knives out there don’t do it you know karma will come and get you lol only kidding . I bet you any money people will still not listen and just scrap their blades till they’re all gone apart from the spine of the blade😂😂😂 mind you this is the perfect thing to use on them ripoff counterfeit knives and even that would make me cringe. Have a beautiful day my friend and to @davebishop2566 that commented. 🫵😘👍
@@NeevesKnives I have a diamond disc I mount on my lathe chuck. I use it to sharpen carbide windmills and drill bits. It works great but it’s not precise and chips the carbide much like using a scraper to remove molecules of steel from an edge. The kind of tool you’ve reviewed is actually great when mounted correctly on a ski edge sharpening deal. I used to make them out of mill files. These little edge sharpening tools ended up being kind of a norm for doing a quick tune up on skis or a snowboard. Even hockey Skates can get tuned up Supernice with just a few passes. I never made them or sold them just made them to give to friends who ski. My little tool wasn’t meant to do a real tune up but just fix a rocked out edge on the slope. This tool is much the same but the invention is being used to support the guy’s living. The guy is an entrepreneur who has managed to get his invention produced and he is the ultimate salesman. I give him props for that. The thing is most of the things I’ve invented were just improvements on things. I’m still dealing with a machine I designed and built where a college class designed something similar and was trying to market it. They never even manufactured the machine but after seeing mine claimed I had copied theirs.
This guy managed to make a product, bring it to market by his hard work then it gets copied and sold for half the price. The whole reason these kids in this engineering class brought the lawsuit was because I was applying for a patient.
I really dig watching your vlogs because of the amazing machine work done on so many of these different knives. The technology used to produce them is mind blowing. The guys building and designing them are the future in manufacturing no matter where they’re from.
It really doesn’t make a difference if the little carbide scraper works for folks like us. It’s his thing that he is doing to make a living. Personally I wish more folks were like him.
@@davebishop2566Yep, we need all the con men we can get. Uh, Wait! What did I just say? If he would sell it for its intended purpose, fine. Not fo cutlery. It is a con pure and simple.
Nice flex
Take a shot every time Jared says apex. we truly appreciate how well you can teach about the knife community. keep up the videos
Thanks for making this video iv been looking for a bout a month on someone who would give a legit in depth reason why this would not perform as advertised. I also bought a smaller product and have yet to try it to see if it actually works. I'm gonna stick to my stones for now lol
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You stick with your stone when you’re ready get yourself a nice set of stones and you will blow your own mind at how good you will be if you’re using a not so good stone and can get a decent edge, when you get hold of a better set you will be on cloud 9 with the edges you will achieve. I wish you the very best and hope you have a wonderful day/weekend 🫵👍
Jared……..I am sooo damn glad someone (a real sharpener) is finally talking about this. This guy is oreying on people that know zero about edge maintenance and sharpeners. I agree with everything you are saying and have thought these things myself when looking at his videos.
And you are a very low IQ nincompoop. Convince this moron that did the review to bring me on his channel in his presence at his shop and we’ll see and we’ll talk about it. Thank you and if you’re so sure my sharpener is poop bet me $2000. I can’t do what I say I’m doing.or are you a chicken.
Yea I've seen the videos & already knew how that would work! There is no cheap quick way to get a good edge without a stone! PERIOD!
you can watch the videos, and the vids clearly show you how to use...
Idk man that cheap sharpener and a 1$ store diamond nail file makes for a shaving sharp knife.
The video never claimed it wouldn't. Simply that it is a weaker more temporary edge. But ultimately it is nothing more than a hone. And it does more damage over time to your apex that it isn't worth it. Just get a less harsh honing tool like a strop or round honing stone. To realigned your rolled edges. @@nameloc1000
@nameloc1000 yes! And he doesn't even use the guys exact sharpener! How the fuck? I have the sharpener he is complaining about and it does work!😂
And Indians didn't have sharpener stones... yet could cut your gd scalp off. Wether jagged or not , you pussys don't have the strength to push a knife through burlap.
Jared. Awesome video. All the work on its apprrciated!
Your sketches are getting massive improvement , you should be proud.
i bought a sharpens best and it got my benchmade sharp.... whenever im doing alot of cutting and i feel the blade getting dull a minute with that sharpener and the blade is sharp again it works for me
I use the worksharp guided sharpener every day. Incredible value.
Neeves Knives.
Your go-to channel for all things sharpening.
I appreciate your attention to detail in this review. I have no dog in this fight and not pushing anyone's product. I watched several of the sharpens best videos and even watched several TH-camrs review this product with mostly positive results. Like you, the folks who do these reviews are very experienced and understand the process taking place. I wanted to buy one of his sharpeners but think they are a little on the expensive side. I found a similar product almost half the price at $13.00--made in America. It just does not have a blade profiler on it. I practiced on some yard tools that were in bad shape and the sharpener actually worked well. I moved on the doing my kitchen knives that were in so-so shape. I watched several vids and following the instructions, it did make my kitchen knives close to razor sharp. Again, it took me some practice to figure out how light, how hard and the angle to the carbide to use the sharpener. Once you get a feel of it, I think it works well. I do not have any expensive knives with extremely hard steel so I can't speak to that. I do want to reiterate, there is a technique and a "touch" required to used this type of sharpener and the one I have works very good. And for the record, I have a drawer with several sharpeners that I consider junk and defiantly do not work.
The problem is the way its used, watch my pull through sharpener video it will help you understand what's taking place, if I took an edge done that way vs a proper edge one would cut about 20 to 50 feet and the other would cut nearly a 1000 or more before it stops cleanly cutting paper,
like you I wanted to try it. I got the actual Sharpens Best sharpener. It took some time to get the technique and pressure to the point I was able to do a paper test and it actually worked. I use to sharpen with whetstones which I still like. I just find to bring out my entire kit, soak the whetstones...etc the Sharpens Best sharpener is a lot quicker and does the job for what I need.
I do not work for the company and have no dog in the fight either. I just have taken courses on sharpening at a local knife retailer using all different grits of whetstones, which was amazing. I would still recommend whetstones for sharpening for sure. I just use the Sharpen's Best sharpener on the fly or when I need to sharpen a knife quickly.
@@brandonkriegerKNSS imho whetstones are only good for midrange and simple steels which is what most people use and they are great for that, however if you use diamonds i would bet you wouldnt go back to whetstones, for many reasons also they work on all steels including high performing steels, shoutout to you for taking the time to take a coarse on sharpeniing that is amazing and i love to hear it
Yahoooo now um gonna do a video on it to!!!
I got this thing too. Had exactly the same experience, the thing only works as a hone-strop, it doesnt work once you removed all the vertical scratches as it makes the knife slip on the material with the parallel scratch pattern. What I wonder is that the edge retention seems to work the best on knifes with scratch pattern that have been probably sharpened on belts, the owner has a video of him shaving bark of a tree with a buck 120 and it still slices paper after that. Would like to know your opinion on sharpening systems that produce edges with higher and deeper number of teeth such as the worksharp belt sharpener. In the end the carbide seems still pretty good on garden tools that have curves like pruning shears!
Good looking out! Great video man. I was wondering about this thing now I know
If you listen to this fool, you know nothing.
Thanks Jerad
Thanks for the amazing education on a cutting edge. As a noob to the knife community, this was immensely helpful.
This is definitely the channel you want for learning all about knives!! Best channel on the tube! It's where I started out a couple years ago!! Welcome to the community and kiss your money goodbye lol😂
Agreed
All I can say is the two previous comments you have received are absolutely bang on the money. Jerad give away information that has taken him years to accumulate but he doesn’t care all he cares about is giving us lot the correct and in credibility valuable information so we don’t go down the wrong path. Which in this day and age is rather incredible to find . Wishing you and the two previous people that commented a cracking day/weekend 🫵👍
What's that little 4 incher you was using. Been looking for a super fine stone to get hair whittling edges in my cpm steels
Thanks for that "classroom" lesson on this topic. At almost 74 years, I've been a cutlery lover, user & sharpener myself for decades & when I saw this product demonstrated, I came to the same conclusion. In my career of over 54 years in the "Mechanical Manufacturing & Design" field, board drafting, to 3D Solid Model CADD drafting, Machining, to Quality Assurance Management, I've been exposed to most of the alloyed metals, hybrid glass-filled polymers & ceramics that industry uses to make precision machined parts for components & assemblies. Machine shops have used tools like that as well as ceramic & diamond dust sharpening tools & grinding wheels for decades to fixture & hand touch-up cutting tools used in "CNC" Milling & Turning Machines to extend the tool life before having to purchase new high speed & carbide cutting inserts, endmills, drill bits, etc. I'm certainly not an expert, but, like you, I couldn't rationalize how that tool would work that well either. Thanks for spelling that scenario out in "layman's " terms for everyone of every level to more easily understand. Keep on keepin' on for the benefit of all.
"I couldn't rationalize how that tool would work that well either."
Well, it's very hard and thus abrasive to knife blade steels. And it's also very tough, so it will hold for a long time. At least that's what I'm thinking right meow. 😸
You are so right
Thank you for this very complete video.
I just purchased the "Worksharp Guided Field Sharpener".
I already have sharpening stones and equipment bought in China, but the nice thing about the "Worksharp" is that there is a guide. Getting used to holding my blade correctly and feeling what a 20° angle does to get used to an angle that fits a lot of blades.
I think it's a good long-term investment, it's a professional brand recognized around the world.
I suspected that the miracle videos of the man with his little red sharpener were a fake miracle product. I got confirmation here.
Anyway, thanks !
Im so glad I learned freehand.
I want to see more improvised, unorthodox sharpening methods.
What do you do when you loose your tools?
I'm on it 👊
So very true. How many ranchers farmers are mechanics or oilfield workers do you think carry a whetstone in their pocket?
I’ve used his sharpener and never had issues. I think it sharpens real nice
That is probably because you actually have a brain that works. And you’re not just a hateful person. Thank you have a great day.
Jared, awesome video. You explain things so well and Crystal clear and I learned so much from you. Thank you for the video.
You didn’t learn much from this fool. Let him and I get together in person in the same place and I’ll show the fool. He doesn’t have a clue what the hell he’s talking about. The guy’s an idiot.
Yes it's here!!!
Cut above the rest - nice, very nice ...
Talks about using a 10° angle and then at the trade show he says the buck knife is to thin/low of an angle and how you don’t want an super acute angle because it’s too weak. Which is it, 10° is an incredibly low angle.
Exactly constantly contradicting himself
I would use wet / dry sand paper with spray glue first, but actually did and I recommend the sandpaper and glue method for cheap results 😊
Best video bro
can you also review that Block sharpener thing?
Thanks for the truth. I need a 325 stone and a new 600n stone and I'll be set.
I watched another TH-cam how to use it. After years of trying the other TH-camrs shoed the exact way to use it and IT WORKS! Every so often I have to do a full sharpening but I can keep my knife sharper longer by using his orange sharpener.
I'm sure it's the same one I seen, I go into that towards the end of video. Regardless I can see what it does under the microscope and it's common sense when you understand Sharpening, it's crude and will not hold up. I'm going to do another indepth video on his exact one with an edge retention test
Me too bud this guy seems to know his stuff but he's wrong on this one even with his microscope 😂
Seeing is believing,,,get your eyes checked.
How refreshing, a person with a brain and uses facts.
Help: I asked the same question on outdoor 55... I have tried a few sharpeners sometimes I feel like I make it better and other times feel like I'm wasting my time. What would be a great sharpener for a "beginner sharpener" for use on hunting knives and some ok kitchen gear?? Thanks for recommendations.
it depends on the budget, and whether you want to freehand or fixed angle which will cost more, im testing a sharpener right now that i will be posting soon, but a couple diamond plates and an angle guide to place on the plates and a strop will work but it will take more effort than a fixed angled system, i have tons of videos teaching freehand, and fixed angled systems
I’ve used the actual sparknsharp for years, with proper use it does a great job sharpening or touching up knives. Again it takes a fare bit of practice but it a great product
I will be at the Taner Gunshow this weekend in Colorado Springs if you’re in that area. And thank you for using absolute facts and truth.
Good job Jared, AKA, mythbuster, I fell for it too Jared and I found out that the best thing that that thing is good for is throwing sparks off my feralrod😂
Yeah I almost showed and said that
I wouldn’t admit that you fell for it…
These are typically used for garden shears, and it is used with great force for minor reprofiling. You can see the shards of steel that fall off.
However, what i use them is for pushing a burr on a 90 degree edge for a card scraper(cabinet scraper)
Thank you for this video….
My pleasure!
I enjoyed watching your take on this subject. It is a bit of a hobby for me as well. Have you seen the Outdoors55 videos regarding "straightening an edge"? He has one about knife steels he goes into depth on the subject.
Also I can appreciate a toothy edge, and I will usually not sharpen a new knife if it has a good toothy edge (leatherman is good at those) until it gets nice and dull. I feel like its easier to get the burr to release on more of a polished edge, so when I end up with a razor sharp edge I think the toothiness kind of stops JUST shy of the actual apex, which doesn't really have any teeth left. Which you can see on a hair whittling edge under a microscope.
I think this tool does just what you said about deepening the edge issues and isn't a good tool. I left a comment on one of his videos telling him to do a microscope video, before and after he used his tool, but he pretty much declined.
A bench stone is to a proper knife edge, what a jack plane is to a nice flat peice of wood. Its like the difference of trying to sand a chair seat smooth with a dremel/sanding drum vs a sanding block. They both would smooth the surface to an extent, but one has a flattening/ refining effect, where the other just follows the issues without correcting them.
I have been wanting to do my own sharpening video, but it's just hard to find the time with work and kids. Anyhow, I enjoy your videos, keep em' coming sir.
pull throughs are very situational they can be useful if u have matching angles meaning u have to use the pull through to profile it while its dull, i use them for cheap kitchen knives that i dont wanna waste hours on sharpening i reporifle their soft steel quick, most of the pull sharpeners are usually more acute/low degree angles.
I've seen this guy's videos before and he's definitely a snake oil salesman marketing his product to people that don't know any better. It's all very slick and he does everything super fast he makes everything look impressive. All he's really doing is just honing your already sharp blade.
You can absolutely throw a little microbevel on a knife with a tungsten rod like this. But that is the extent of the use for this tool. It’s not made for pretty, even, nice sharpening. It’s legit made to microbevel an edge in the field to increase the amount of time between real sharpening
@@TheBootyWrangler People who think you need a masters degree in knife sharpening dont get it...
Some things do come easier to some people.
But I agree, hands on training always trumps
a paper degree. @@jwiLx
@@TheBootyWrangler the issue I have with this is that he calls what he does sharpening. He says that this is a fast way to sharpen and makes it seem like a miraculous product. That's why I called him a snake oil salesman. He's just honing or micro-beveling knives, and that's misleading.
Hey dipstick talk to Jared into getting into the same room with me at the same time with the video and I’ll show you and everybody that watched his bullshit talk how my sharpener actually works. Then you’ll be a fool.
These are typically used to raise a “hooked” edge on a card scraper (for woodworkers)
Don’t drag any carbide across a blade you care about
thanks for your videos. I have watched a few now. I had no idea that a person could know so much about knives. I have tried those pull throughs - I assumed this was good for sharpening knives because it came with the knives. I thought it was me because they always end up duller. I found your channel because I thought it was time to actually learn. .... But then there are these little gadgets. This guy is putting himself out there as knowledgeable. And with that knowledge he made this little gadget. I would think it was good. buy it. try it. only to end up with a dull knife again - and think it was me. ..... Thank you for your videos. with some practice I may actually have a sharpened knife. !!!!!
Nice work! Outdoors55 did a great video about how horizontal scratch patterns ruin your edge.
Weird. I have a very lazy method of horizontally sharpening my knife edges using a precision system and they perform hair splittingly well
@@TheBootyWrangler what’s your method? It’s not that it’s impossible to get a screaming sharp edge, it’s the durability of the edge.
@@MrBowser2012 the method begins with my wife uttering a magic phrase that goes something along the lines of “holy shit you waste so much god damned time sharpening your knives, do they always have to be dangerously sharp spend time with your family yada yada”
At that point the max horizontal travel of the stone without it passing over the tip of the blade is determined. Then I use my free hand as a horizontal “stop” for the stone while rapidly moving the stone left to right to left like a maniac. Wait until entire bevel has been touched and a burr has formed, flip knife, repeat process, go to next stone, flip again, repeat.
Edges seem to have fine durability as far as my use goes. My knives are almost entirely used in a work environment where abrasive edge resistance has a usefulness of next to none.
D2 is the perfect work knife steel imo. Hard enough to resist wear well. Tougher than a bucket of nails and can withstand immense impacts into hard surfaces without causing any catastrophic edge damage or severe rolling, and it’s stainless enough to be MORE than adequate for work knife use where you couldnt give a tenth of a shit about how pretty she is. Just needs to be able to be recovered for use after being left on a job site for a few days that’s really all you need.
@@TheBootyWrangler 😂 if it works it works. How do wives all know that same magical phrase?
Alex is very educational. Jef Jewel does a mean edge too.
What's the best way to sharpen on say a workshop Pro. Diamond Stone going up or down , or up and down at the same time?
so when you light candles on a birthday cake do you use sharpens best, or a lighter? its not that great of a firestarter either.
Good vid bro, informative. Shoulda thrown in a quick advertisement for your sharpening playlist. I like how u used homeboys invention as an opportunity to teach instead of just clowning him. Good shit bro.
Graceful diplomacy he has.
It works to get a knife decently sharp. I’ve noticed it works best on my budget blades that have lesser quality steel. It took some practice to learn the proper angle. Also, I noticed it takes a light touch.
You cut with the corner ie low grit then polish with the flat ie higher grit..it can sharpen not well but it can from my experience it is the hardest way to get a decent to good edge..freehand with stones of the users choice will always result in a better edge
His product is something that's been around fot ages, it's basically one side of a pull through sharpener or similar to a steel honing rod. To align an already sharp edge that maybe rolled over it would do that job although like you said there are much better options to choose from such as a strop, ceramic, or fine diamond hone that will actually work better and make the edge last longer by keeping those micro serrations in place. Pull through is the last thing I would want on any of my knives and I've been trying to get people to steer clear of them along with steel honing rods altogether by recommending a product that actually works. The worksharp guided field sharpener is great in the home as well as the field and wont break the bank, on top of it also being able too handle even kitchen knives or folding knives for maintenance. Still recommend a good set of stones for full sharpening of knives at home either guided system or free hand as it doesn't have an aggressive enough stone for reprofiling in my opinion, but you keep a knife going with it for a long time if no serious damage occurs. The carbide on the pull through sharpeners and this easy best sharpener do make for great ferro rod scrapers though for starting fires lol. Thanks for the great vid Jerad and keep making sharp things fun and enjoyable.
"ages" ya say? how long is 1 age and how many ages are in "ages"? ou
you typed what he said in his video . . . weird flex
i wonder why ppl do this? i see it A LOT
Let's see tungsten carbide was invented in the 1920's so ages in my case is about 100 years lol
That's just down right silly. I don't know how they sell any of those.😅 Thanks Jared
Love mine. Takes a knack. What's not to understand about a pocket knife. Everything he mentioned is something I've used my knife for. I need it to work not shave with.
FINALLY LORD I’ve been seeing this guy for years and commenting telling him what’s wrong with this entire idea
Great video !!! Thanks for shining the light on this trash product!!! Face by fact tore the scam product apart thanks Jared !!!!
I usually hone and strop on my Fällkniven CC4, so I wouldn't need to take out my water stone. Yes, it has a leather sheath with one side being rougher for stropping, works like a charm for me even without compound. But I have used that technique you have mentioned with a small ceramic rod too a couple of times, and I also thought it was just straightening up the rolled bits of the edge; since it is used in the same direction as stropping. And I only ever use the rougher side of the CC4 to grind out noticeable chips by the way; to sort of reprofile.
i saw his videos and was about to sell my k03, t8 and my benchstones. i felt bad because i spent so much on traditional sharpeners and he just hast this carbide stick and has these meticulously clean edges😂
April fools day
@@jdemeter4357 on a serious note, i have a the ezeelap version of this. is use it to strike my ferro rod. best striker ever!
I have a version of that I use to sharpen my hatchet and pruning shears. It deburrs edges pretty well.
Yeah I have a couple these things work very well I can tell by watching this guy's video hes not using it right these sharpeners are way faster than any stone too brad is a nut though😂
@@avaleejeffersonmichael8148I mean, he's using it exactly how I've seen everyone online using it. There's better equipment to do the same job.
It is titanium carbide, which is harder than most steels, so yes it will sharpen when used correctly. Use only light pressure and consistent angle. Using a carbide bit for planers does works similar. I never use V pull through. However I find a simple ceramic honing rod is better and less likely to screw up the blade.
Agree. Need to use it properly. Light strokes then strop and you can shave hair if you want. It works.
Bet that thing does amazing on a ferrorod though
Thanks for explaining the processes of sharpening and strop/honing. 😂 Though i think you went a bit far, I get it. Im getting into polishing now, not just the edge. That can be tough.
I’ve watched many of this guys videos and he’s perfected creating a micro bevel and removing the burr with his tool. Maybe under a microscope it wouldn’t look perfect but it always cuts paper. I can’t wait to see Jared in his next video. 😂
I would have no problem having him on the channel and as I said in the end, regardless I'm you can microbevel a crude edge that's somewhat sharp the point is that it's an edge that will not stay sharp what so ever its doomed from the start, so you will have to repeat and repeat and with every time you are losing more efge retention, wat h my pull through video
@@NeevesKnives I meant that he would call you out and make a video about how wrong you are blah blah blah. Id definitely enjoy listening to you and him discuss it.
@jeffp7368 I will be waiting and standing by, I already purchased his version with the intention to do an edge retention test, I'm also willing to hear him out and test one that he has done. I don't mind being proven wrong, and I'm not standing on a high horse if I'm right I just want the results
I like to sharpen my own knives, I just use a cheap make sharp Keychain sharpener I got at a surplus store. Works magic !
I love how much I learn watching your channel. I appreciate how much time and effort you put into your videos to truly educate your viewers. 🙏
Thank you
This comment should have thousands of likes!!! Love the channel!! Kneeves is the man!!
Well, remember, this I know for a fact because it was my product he was talking about. Not once does he ever use the sharpener correctly. He didn’t even buy it from me. And the man has no idea how to use a Sharpener so everything he says is an absolute lie. That’s the kind of person you want to learn from.
I don't have this guys sharpener. But indo have a lansky with tungsten carbide 90° angles and it works just fine. I actually think his looks more comfortable to use. Its hard to beat the workshop belt sharpener tho. Couple swipes with grit. Then the fine belt with compond and so super quick. I do like playing with the carbide tho. And i get a paper cutting edge. Always tougher on the good steels tho.
At least you seem to be a truthful person. Thank you.
I've watched a few of his videos. I always assumed he was just realigning the edge or taking the burr off. I'd love to see him try and sharpen a dull blade in a high carbide supersteel. Never gonna happen.
Nope not ever, I'd like to see the edge retention test maybe we should do that
Good for a ferro rod
5:51 - That is very true, if I remember correctly, disposable scalpel blades are 11 degrees and those last for just a few cuts even in soft tissue before dulling
And they are super thin, so if they are very thin the edge bevel will be much smaller than if it was on something thicker like a knife, a 11° bevel on a buck would look like a scandi grind
So, are you saying that stropping on an old leather belt, with no compound at all, is useless? I have never used a compound. I can get my knives hair shaving sharp, so I never felt the need to buy any. But I guess I need to try it some day to understand it’s value.
Edit: Actually, I’m lying. I have used something once. My mom is a jeweler, so she has polishing compounds, the green, white, and brown blocks that she puts on a buffer wheel to polish gold and silver. I used some of the green once on my strop, but I couldn’t tell if it did anything... Perhaps I’ll see a difference with a diamond emulsion...
Stropping is a big issue for me when it comes to recurves and hawkbills. Sharpening isn’t too bad, since there’s a lot of good round stones, as well as every corner of a stone being able to serve the same purpose. Stropping is hard, though, because most of them are just flat, and the few curved ones I’ve seen are very wide and not really great for smaller curved blades, such as the Spyderco Cricket. Does anyone have any recommendations for good stropping/honing devices for recurves and hawkbills?
If you are doing recurve just use the edge of your Strop, or you can make a .25 to .5 " version wide but the corner works great just apply comound
Which model Tomlov microscope do you have?
4k p30
It is only good for burnishing, which deforms and damages the steel, thus drop edge retention significantly.
generally, any stone/strop/ceramic would be muck better. I would take a spyderco rod for field maintainence.
I taught myself to freehand sharpen on small diamond plates and finishing with just a few strokes on a ceramic rod or stone. I learned by doing something that i used to think i invented using sharpie on the bevel to make sure youre getting the right angle at first with a couple super light passes. Anyways nowadays I usually will still do that when sharpening a new blade but most that ive sharpened before it seems like i can tell by the sound and feel if im hitting it perfect. I think this could possibly work just like you said with super light passes to make a micro bevel. But if you're gonna do that then why not just use a fine diamond rod or ceramic rod ? Personally I'll just use what I have been using forever and am comfortable using.
Also I used to work in Lake and pond biology and management and I used to use something very similar to this to touch up the hand sickle we would use to cut down cattails under the water line. They would obviously get dull really quick but would come back easily with a few strokes with something like this. But those edge angles were so high. They would never cut paper like a knife. It was a completely different use.
After 2 minutes of watching your video I thought it was a con. Snake oil will exist as long as there is someone to buy it. Awesome job of pointing it out.
Yours scratch pattern depends on how you angle your knife. The way you do it is great for cutting from heel to tip. But if you want the other way (a chef's knife maybe) you angle it the opposite way. Or do it straight and you'll have a perpendicular pattern that doesn't exceed at either, but does better than the heel to tip trying to cut tip to heel (hopefully you understand). I use all 3 strokes in burr minimization and finish with the pattern I want.
I found a similar product (quite old 90's) in my parents kitchen drawer, comes from a Scandinavian country, which one? One of the S's from memory, had finger grooves for the angles, about 23ish and a ceramic whetstone on the flip side, actually gave some average kitchen knives a profile and edge that got through relative grade paper. And made a difference to a quite poor edge. But no more. Go the stone. See me at the next knife show with a pair of snowshoes yodelling. Enjoy the channel.
I have one and use on a Ferro rod to throw sparks...It excels at that, but never touches my blades
Could it be good for taking off the burr?
No I tried that as well and it was not very good it tore out steel and left behind some, a strop makes it better, so in reality I could break the burr on a stone, or use a piece of wood before strop
What about the rolling sharpener like the tumbler
I would stay away from the tumbler, go with work sharp or horl. I have videos on all of them
I used this for about a week, and I found that I could sharpen my knives Farley well but could also BLUNT an edged even quicker. This dude has prolly used this thing so much, he's amazing at it. Outside of his hands..Not so much! 🖖
Which tomlov model did u get J?
mine is one of the more expensive ones, but they have some at all values, i think mine was like 250 to 300 or something i can let you know the exact one if needed
Teach ,Teacher!!! Great Video as always!
Great info Jared! Thanks I almost got one of these lol.
Jared is a fool.
@@bradbuckner9496you’re a fool , why you living in his comment section ? Why does your sharpener dull knives what’s up with that