War boy used Maxine as a hood ornament because he knew he was in a movie and that as long the main character was in his line of fire at all times, he would never die.
These people are essentially Jihadis, they deliberately commit suicide when they are near death, they obviously don't give a shit if max dies, they would just kamikaze into the truck at that point
In case anyone's wondering, E;R's not wrong- this film didn't really HAVE a script. It was mostly storyboards. Literal, actual drawn storyboards since it was (almost) all action sequences. It's pretty neat.
I looked this up and rewatched this scene because I didnt believe it but color me properly informed. It seems like everyone who was in that movie even in a minor role has had success.
I always thought of the film like this comment. Especially when Joe says to the desperate water seekers, “you shouldn’t rely on too much water” it’s a weak setup of an antagonist especially since agriculture is already set with a protective force who haven’t damaged the villagers...
@@hopelessent.1700 - Now they can get rid of another stinky white man & replace him with a female protagonist in the next movies, Mad Maxine rides again. LOL A win, win as far as the agenda goes & another loss for common sense.
If this was Miller's plan all along, I applaud him. I mean, the film itself pointed out that the green lands, when controlled by women, withered and died, became the swamp wasteland. Now they come in to Immortan Joe's green pillars, let's the aqua reserves flow with extreme distaste for saving it and let's the low population up the pillars moments after they tear Joe's body apart like wild animals. The movie itself gave you the answer what will happen to this society. Violent collapse. All because of "MUH FEELZ"
Squelch Otron The film should have shown that then. Any film that requires its creators or outside sources like comics and books to explain important things is a bad movie.
@@chip6933 Makes sense. Even if he decides to share his "private" lore ideas to the public, he'd definitely revision some of them so he wouldn't get heat for it. Fury Road compared to Road Warrior is very very tame
I actually expected max to help the people in the "village" (or whatever it is) rebel against inmortan instead of this shitty movie. It had some nice visuals and music,but the plot itself was fucking terrible and Max feels like a secondary character.
Kishka thats the point... Max is as soulless as ever by this film and makes sense that it would be boring to portray a quiet character for a full length film.
After living such a cushy lifestyle, these women wouldn't make it an hour on their own. They were so damn smug while accepting the help of these people.
@@someguy4405 that's actually something the Max from the second film would do, or at least something similar, as he had an supporting characters captive with an shotgun pointing at his head and only depending in his dog's head movement to blow the guy's head to pieces, and also an armed bomb in his car just in case
The original trilogy has, at least to me, a totally different atmosphere to it. Sure, there are some really weird characters like Lord Humungus and Tina Turner but overall the world of the wasteland is just the regular world gone to shit. And especially in Mad Max and The Road Warrior it still feels like it all happens in the real world. Fury Road has this magical, fantastical aspect to it. Everything is exaggerated to the max, from the cars to the characters and the Citadel. It's like the film makes the world, and especially the desert seem like this mythical place, an otherworld or something whereas the OG Mad Max it was just Australian outback. And who built the Citadel anyway? That water drain system requires some pretty decent engineering and the switches looked brand new, too. Also, when Furiosa says they can drive 160 days to "that direction", what it really means is that they would have circled the earth about five times if they rode about 60 mph and didn't run out of gas. I found that funny. Also, I don't know how they can drive that long without refueling.
HenkkaArt There's actually a bit of backstory involved in Immortan Joe and the Citadel. Before the Great War He and the Bullet Farmer were soldiers, and at some point they found a survivor who told them about a massive aquifer/ water treatment plant. Looking their resources Joe and his crew rolled deep and took over the Citadel, and from their established a power base to contruct Gastown and the Bullet Farm. The three Warlords were those positioned to share power and rule the wasteland with an iron fist.
Devin Mcclanahan But the backstory is in some other form of media? A comic book? A website? When discussing film, secondary forms of media shouldn't be needed to understand and/or criticize a film, its plot, characters and production quality. Unless they hand out the comic book or whatever to you when you go to the theater and let you read it before the movie begins. And even then, it is a testament to poor storytelling.
HenkkaArt The vague, visuallt-driven form ofnstorytelling is there to grip the audience and make them want more. It's there to make them to put and search for more media on the subject, broadening their horizons and, thus, increasing the sales of the franchise as a whole. Little thing called 'marketing', maybe you've heard of it?
***** Spoon-feeding? Explaining ridiculous things to make them make sense in the movie's world isn't spoon-feeding. If nobody told you what elves are, like the basics of fantasy elves, would you feel that it was spoon-feeding for LOTR to explain during the movie's runtime in reasonable dialogue or visual storytelling that elves are as a matter of fact immortal and cannot fall ill etc? Or how can Legolas see so far?
honestly, the story of the mad max game should have been the story of this one. Max loses famous car, finds crazy deformed person, they work together to build the penultimate car for max to be selfish and drive through the great beyond (essentially drive so far from everyone else that by the time he runs out of resources he dies). Through max's quest with Quasimodo he learns to give a shit about other people, saves a sex slave and her kid, they die anyway from bad guy, max sacrifices everything to take vengeance on bad guy proving that he is still ultimately acting through selfishness and his own need to have a reason to cause destruction. Honestly, I don't know how the game writers were able to write such a better mad max sequel.
Because they know people play video games for a story, and thus actually tried to make a story, instead of the mad max films which are more or less about action scenes rather than plot.
David Elliott it’s wrong and you’re very bad at understanding this. I don’t know if this person’s understanding of the game corresponds to what happens in it, but he makes pretty clear in his description that the reason why he says Mad Max is still selfish is because he is still using whatever he can to destroy things. And... vengeance isn’t necessarily motivated by selflessness, far from it. There actually quite a bit of stories revolving around selfish revenge, where the main character or the villain uses the death of someone else, or someone else’s loss, to justify their personal bloodlust, despite either not suffering that loss personally and being told it doesn’t matter/justify their actions, or not being the one that should be affected by the death in the first place.
@The Real Starlord jesus chill tf out. He said max sacrificies everything because he quite literally loses everything he had hopes for. However, his actions afterwards are still selfish (like not having a problem with killing chumbucket as long as he got his revenge, or forgetting about everything and speeding off in his interceptor relieved of leaving). Only in fury road he gets a sense of selflessness.
+@authorization batman it's been a year since you posted this comment and it really itches my creative bone in all the wrong ways. If from what you got from the story is that it's jabbing at men and saying that they're all selfish pigs then you're absolutely insane. The whole point of the story is that deep down Max is a selfish man. His actions of avenging the girls are noble, but it's selfish in that he is willing to (and does) destroy everything around him to get what he wants. In the end he has a deathwish. Hell dying is what his original goal was. And even after the death of the girls that still is his goal when he wreaks destruction on everything and everyone in his way regardless if they had anything to do with him. Max is a very flawed man. He has no purpose in life other than to wander the wastes until he dies, and will selfishly hold onto whatever purpose is given to him even if it means hurting those around him who didn't deserve it.
Kinda interesting to me how E;R predicted the "Replace the male lead with a stronger female character trend". That's become popular recently. Some examples being, The recent HE-Man series, which is all about the woman, the Obi-wan tv series, the recent Thor movie. And the Loki tv series, all of which are named after a male character, but star female leads instead. Very interesting.
You're exactly right. I watched a breakdown of this (no longer new) trope in another video a week ago. Basically, they are using all of these once popular male characters to "pass the torch" to female characters (or just non-white characters)...elevating them above men. You rarely see a movie about a "father figure" and boy/son anymore. It's always a father and daughter now. Disney is especially guilty of this. It's all propaganda.
What's really interesting is that this movie might have started the whole 'Strong woman' trend with movies - Star Wars, GhostBusters, Ocean's 8, Terminator DF. Would be interesting to see how this movie would be received if it was released 5 years later.
There's a defense for Max's diminished role in Fury Road that always makes me roll my eyes. People always bring up "well, it's always been Max wandering into someone else's story! Guess YOU'RE not the true fan after all huh?!" That's true...for 2 and 3. And even in those films, it's told almost entirely from Max's viewpoint. It's not his story, per se, but he IS the main character, in the same way The Man with No Name is the protagonist of the Dollars Trilogy. And in those two movies, Max isn't the narrator. He's this almost mythic figure that the narrator is reminiscing about. The fact that HE is the narrator in Fury Road is the final confirmation that Furiosa has taken his place as the focal protagonist. And I'm saying this all as someone who really enjoyed Fury Road, even if I did internally groan at a few of the more hamfisted moments. As much as I enjoyed the film (and think it made up for how batshit stupid Thunderdome was), I despise it when people try to defend it with disingenuous arguments.
One of er's first complaints about the film is that the main character isn't the main character. That's not really a valid complaint. That's like saying "Hey, I saw Boogie Nights and nowhere in the film was there boogying across multiple nights."
Well remember its 20XX, if you dont unconditionally praise and love stronk wombon movie heroes you are just a basic Cis-Het woman-hater warboy deserving to have feminist granny marauder gang hunt you down LOL
I just saw it in the theatre yesterday my first time seeing it been a while since ive seen road warrior or thunderdome just recently rewatched mad max. Wow it was fun inwouldve liked max to play a more active role but I also enjoyed furyosa. The theatre was rattling engines drums and that electric guitar. Its not something id seriously analyze I enjoyed the spectacle. Reminded me of a a high end Kung Fu or epic chinese war movie not really here cause I care about the characters so much as the choreography.
Actually, you're right. I fucking love Tom Hardy and everything he does - I'm biased - but Mel would have really mopped the floor in returning to Mad Max. Hardy's portrayal was much less nuanced and 'survivalist', whereas Mel showed the character to be fairly established and well-rounded. Also, way less crazy! But that's fine. I like them both. :) Here's a like! I would levee one argument and say that Fury Road is, essentially, a feminist fake-out film. Here's the lead Go-Girl, leading her people to a promised land that doesn't exist... Gee. When that fails, she decides to redistribute the wealth, essentially demolishing the society that her predecessors built. *How familiar.*
Perhaps if Immortan was in charge of the "Green Place" instead of the Golden Girls, then maybe he could have kept it green by rationing water, you know, like he did in the Citadel. Also, he would have probably named it something less retarded than the "Green Place".
to be fair to the people who named Green Place, none of the other names were that good. Gas Town and Bullet Farm aren't exactly the height of creativity.
@The No.1 Guy On top of that, appearently the grandma's and Joe (and Max too) are supposed to be old enough to remember "from before" and thus could prob name shit better, but i guess they kept it simple so the barbarian cancer generation dont have to think too hard or something dunno LOL
@@ggwp638BC That actually makes me think twice about the theory that Joe's order represents masculinity, while the Vulvalini's order represents femininity. Both locations contain the word "green", as in fertile. Fertile place...Fertile pillar... I have a fertile pillar... Anyway, as far as I recall, the theory is that Joe's order represents misogyny, while the Vulvalini's represent misandry. Both are too extreme and therefore self-defeating.
Max has never been a really fleshed out character in any of the films. He used to be a highway patrol cop and who loved the thrill of a the hunt/car chase. Then the world starts ending, crime is going up, plenty of work for him, and he's concerned that he's enjoying it. His only anchor to decency is the remaining police force and his family. But the police can't handle an apocalypse, dwindling numbers on their side, growing numbers of gangs, ineptitude, corruption, which leads to a gang killing Max's wife and child. Max snaps, goes on a rampage, gets his revenge, but then doesn't have anything to go back to afterward. So, it's presumed he just drives off into the outback for self-imposed exile and penance, acting as a knight errant, helping people when he can, but never feeling like he can settle down or get attached to anyone ever again, for fear that he'll be too weak or too slow and end up losing another family. That actually sounds like a pretty okay character now that I write this out. I guess the larger problem that he kinda gets played as, "I lost my family and I'm sad, but also mad =("
The way you put it, Max sounds fucking awesome. Until he seems to hit a plateau with his fear of attachment and becomes an entirely static character. I'd forgive that--maybe even prefer it--if Max were still the one driving the story. Don't know how it is in the other films, but he sure ain't here.
Max has been exactly like this in all films except the first one. In Road Warrior, Thunderdome, and now Fury Road, he's the guy who gets drawn up into the plights of other people at the expense of himself. It's implied that he's helping them in order to retain the last bit of his humanity. He's never the driving force because his altruism gets in the way. You're criticizing the film for not being enough about Max while not having seen the previous films? Come on. I get this concept not being something you enjoy, but don't cry false advertising.
You say that (and I can only assume you didn't watch the video, or else you're conveniently sidestepping my disclaimer that I would only be discussing Feels Road as a standalone), but what I'm getting out of your comment is that all but the first film is a clusterfuck of false advertising. Which really doesn't surprise me.
@@esemicolonr”False advertising” bro… you make good arguments but this ain’t it. He is a lone wanderer that gets caught up in conflicts that don’t involve him. He isn’t the center of the universe. Also he is as much a main character in this film as Furiosa is. The day wouldn’t have been saved if it weren’t for Max. He goes through w character arc of becoming more trusting in others.
The reason the bikes have to think about riding for 160 days is because at this point in the mad max universe the the oceans have dried up, so there's a lot more land
I dunno which exact time this movie is supposed to be, Max lost his car like waaay before this movie (Mad Max 2, and the nukes didnt happen until between Mad Max 2 and 3, kinda too fast for the oceans to dry up) and suddenly he have it back now like nothijg ahppened and lose it again, next movie he is gonna have it back again i presume?
@@SwedishEmpire1700 There’s several ways to interpret Max in this movie. It could be he is a new man who took up the name Max, carrying his legend. Or it could be another made up story about Max, hence his lack of old age. There’s a channel called the Mad Max Bible that explains that this movie’s Max was supposed to be an unhinged, monstrous old man. But several things caused this to change, such as time, Mel Gibson being insane, etc.
Man, the whole point of Mad Max's world is that humanity stops giving a fuck about all pre-existing pomp and circumstance when the apocalypse hits and reinvents their own. Hence the reliance on motor vehicles because not only is there no way we're going back on foot after centuries of cars, but _fucking look at them_, and The Doof Warrior's flaming guitar being a reinterpretation of the ye olde little drummer boy
@Greg Wasdyke That's cool and all but seeing as it's the apocalypse, and they're whole focus is on getting enough food and water to survive till tomorrow, where do they get all that fuel? Where do they get oil for all those engines? And where do they get all the parts they need for all those cars and trucks and big rigs? There's no way they're still machining those parts, drilling for oil, let alone refining it into fuel. And what about the tires, how many tires must they go through? I mean they're literally looking for enough food and water to survive till tomorrow, yet they have an endless amount of oil, fuel, tires, car, truck, and big rig parts for everything? What the fuck? Is there no such thing as rust in this world?
Brent Clouda "There's no way they're still machining those parts, drilling for oil, let alone refining it into fuel" That's what gastown does " how many tires must they go through?" There actually are a lot of vehicles in these movies that don't have real tires. "endless amount of oil, fuel, tires, car, truck, and big rig parts for everything? " There's an emphasis on vehicles in the films but there's never actually that many in the grand scheme of things. Hell, a lot of these trucks are just a bunch of smaller cars cobbled together. Also, in this apocalypse, people act on their base instincts to survive but really no one even fucking cares. The MM world is what it is because it's run by adrenaline junkie nihilists. Also, the movie is created by people who also don't give that much of a fuck, which if you didn't notice, is a lot of the appeal.
@@liteney yeah most people in the modern Mad Max universe are struggling to survive another day and wouldn't have access to vehicles, which is why they don't. The limit range of the movie may be deceiving but there are few groups that have access to vehicles. The only ones with vehicles in the movie are Joe's armada and his allies, Max who used to be some sort of cop or law enforcer, the spiky gang who are suppossed to be guards/scavengers of a particular area and the women from the green place, and it makes sense that all of those have access to such commodities due to their social status and/or profession, which is why regular people don't have them and the film makes a point to show it, with the inhabitants of the Citadel being limited to extremely poor living conditions and the radio transmissions of people saying that they will "kill for gasoline", showing how scarce these resources actuallu are
+jalan ganje I have an idea, since clouds usually like to rain on high altitude locations perhaps the sort of "mountain" where the citadel is have some sort of funnel that collects water and sends it down a REALLLY long tube into the citadel?
Well lets see. Google maps ---> from Shanghai to San Francisko (just for an example). Travel time just under 13 hours with a commercial plane. Comercial planes usually fly at mach 0.8/0.9 which is around 277 m/s. The bikes would drive across the salt flats how fast? Lets be generous and say 60km/h. Thats around 16 m/s which is 17 times slower than the airplane. This means that it would theoretically take 221 hours which is basically 9 days to make the trip from Shanghai to San Francisco on bikes across salt flats. Of course the ocean bed is not completely flat and there will most definitely be many natural barriers and they will not be driving 24/7 so you could double it and add a bit more days but as it is, fuel for 120+ days or how many she said? Yeah I don't think they need to worry about not hitting any "land" while crossing the salt flats.
If I existed in this world, I'd do my damnedest to aid Joe's empire. It's the only stable society in Mad Max that I know of. I'd collect some books and set up a nice laboratory to study the old world, and see if there is any way to improve his empire.
its really not Melbourne was left relatively untouched and is under control of the Australian Defence Force they just don't go out rescuing people they just protect the city from outside threats
Dangerous Joy The towns in the first movie weren't so bad either. And before fanboys swoop in with misinformation... Yes the first movie did take place after the appocalypse. Miller himself confirmed this.
Now, you see, the problem here is that you're trying to apply logic and reason to mindless entertainment that was never meant to be in contact with such things
I can tell you that MM (I) was pretty good, low-budget fun. The idiots who made it didn't even realise that stunt drivers and riders don't have to go over 100mph to LOOK like they're going over 100mph on film because - the wonders of cinematography! So they really did go over 100mph (and one or two killed themselves). It made for a unique look during the chases.
Personally I think the realism adds that much more to the original. No film has ever had car chases that are half as gripping. Most people apparently cant but I can tell when a movie car chase isnt actually happening at the implied speeds. Also the fact that two stuntman died is part of why the movie is so legendary, two souls were sacrificed to create that art.
@@shan4680 Yeh, it's the archetypal urban legend (probably a lot of shenanigans balancing publicity and insurance claims at the time and afterwards though). But as you say, there was certainly plenty of mayhem.
I've had this in my "Watch Later" for almost two years, and after watching Fury Road for the 12th time this past weekend, I finally decided to watch this all the way through while things are slow at the office, post-Holiday. I say all of that to say this: I can't remember a single video causing me to almost blow coffee out my nose as many times as this. Well done, dude.
@@jaylucino8890 yet that is exactly the reason why fury road is not a good movie mate, it does not tie in with the first three films were fuel is rare, and yet they have time for a flaming guitar of all things
@@theincrediblehulk5797 bro have you even wathced the third movie ? its even more unbelievable and doesnt even feel like post apocolypse this movie is objectivly better like bro there is a muscular down syndrome guy that has a small motherfucker leading him that rolls in pigshit in the middle of the film.
I mean even in the previous movies outside the first it was a series about a drifter that got involved in other people's story than fucked off and side characters mattered more. Fury road took that further but this isn't weird for the series. I mean this is the guy shocked max list his car at the start even though that's...also tradition
@@LondonLock MM 1 - Max's origin story , MM 2 - Max as the drifter going around searching for gas and meeting people/enemies. MM 3 more of the same except here you have his lore told by kids. Suffers from sequel syndrome. It's always been about Max and how he operated in the world that became a wasteland.
I have been waiting for YEARS for a video to spell out every single gripe I had with this movie and with its inexplicable almost universal praise. So glad I found yours, even after all this time. THANK YOU SIR.
This particular comment thread is an oasis. Just try to remember that 90% of comments come from people who are already disturbed to begin with. It doesn't represent the viewer base accurately.
Actually no, its a running joke in every movie that the car doesn't get much screentime. Its barely in the first and third movie; the only time it gets any real time onscreen is in the second film and even that wasn't much.
@The No.1 Guy Not to mention the Interceptor Pursuit Special was like hand-made for Max as "candy" to keep him on the job = pretty much fucking impossibly rare to find an almost exact identical working copy out in the wasteland some 40 years after the apocalypse. But hey! ya know the car is part of the character now so gotta shoehorn it in somehow even how dumb it looks so they can milk the Nostalgia Boys.
It flopped back then also at the box office, it was so expensive and they marketed it harder than any movie. But yeah it would bomb even worse if it came out today.
@@matteomastrodomenico1231 People are praising the amazing practical effects. The story is basically nonexistent which nothing new considering how the movie was basically made from photo collages
E;R called out Furiosa for taking over Mad Max in his own movie. Eight years later Furiosa has her own trailer for her movie called Furiosa. What a coincidence that the next Mad Max movie would continue without Mad Max.🙃
George Miller literally announced it after Fury Road released, it wasn't a surprise for anyone. It's not even a continuation just a prequel to flesh out the character.
i did, pacing made them kinda boring but i'll let that pass since all movies from those years were like that, the 1st is just a usual action movie, and only the 2nd has the post-apocalyctic setting which made it more interesting and is actually worth watching, but 1 is too generic and is nothing special
I loved the guitar player, especially when they enter the boggy area and he starts playing sludge/stoner metal to emphasize the bogginess of the situation.
One thing you have to see the other films to 'get' vis a vis Fury Road is that - save in the first film - Max himself is a cipher. He's not the center of the narrative, just competent outsider who is integral to the other characters succeeding.
I would suggest that you do watch the other Mad Max films, bc after the first one, Max DOES actually become more of a prop than a character. He's the lense through which the audience experiences the story, but he isn't really the main protagonist in that he more or less stumbles into other people's story arcs and takes part in them against his will.
That would imply those movies are something more than actions with Max as the main action hero. The second has no plot at all anyway. The third one has a little more and that plot is making Max into desert Jesus so how is he not important?
Hurbs Buckooglberb There isn't really that much structure sure but there is a plot. Max and a bunch of innocent people with gasoline are stuck in a fort with psychos outside, Max tries to help.
The second actually does have him there as a character. After the events of the first he strides out into the wasteland searching for meaning, and finds it in that camp of survivors, who he is reluctant to help at first, but when his dog is killed and his car destroyed(yes. Destroyed. As in blown to shreds.) he joins them, not for their sake, but simply to kill the shitheads who shot his dog, as he descovers that revenge is an excellent motive to continue living. After he kills the gang, he wanders back into the wastes, searching once more. The third movie introduces the kids... and yeah it was pretty stupid having a psycho like Max sacrafice himself for the lost boys. Skip the game. Its bad. In the new movie its suddenly all "Dont die. Dont get killed." as if Max has ever cared about death.
this is literally the least thurough, most inane above surface-level analysis of this film i've ever seen, it's like level -1, he didn't even get the things that just about every normal filmgoer got about the movie
@Glenna Smith Huh, well after looking it up I am honestly surprised that it spent a lot more money and earned a lot less than I would have expected. It didn't lose money but it also hardly made a whole lot either. Its a fun film to watch and the dumb plot doesnt ruin the fun that much so maybe it had a weird release date?
The implication when she says, "It will take 160 days" is that there is no more ocean. The salt. It's Salt Water minus the WATER. THE SALT. The ocean is fucking huge. Minus water, it's a lot to bike across.
I assumed they meant salt flats. I suppose because that's inherently more sensible than the idea that the ocean's water disappeared, which is... impossible. This setting is getting a bit too goofy...
The idea is that all the water dried up into the dirt of the planet, which would be impossible, yeah, but you have to stretch your disbelief at least a little bit. I still agree that the rest is dumb, and the fact that they know that the water is gone at least across the ocean would remove any idea of finding a water source on the other side of a dried up water source.
@@jim4686 OG Mad Max never implies the water is disappearing, its just the story of highway patrol cop dealing with criminal biker gangs in a slowly degenerating society. OG Mad Max wouldnt be out of place in a modern third world country, the sequels increasingly drift off into fantasy land.
I would also like to point out that in a world like Mad Max, women would want their babies to become warlords. So they can then use their sons (or daughters) for influence and power. The more selfless women would try to get their boys to be heroic warlords, to use their power for good and to never give up to adversity, while the more selfish women would want warlord kids so that they can mooch off all the influence they can as some kind of dowager or adviser for their son.
When I first watched this movie I turned my brain off and really liked it. Tom was great and I accepted it as just a dumb cool fun spectacle in a fantasy world I found interesting Your review totally changed my mind when I realized it was good in spite of a lot of bullshit, but more importantly how unfathomably better the movie could’ve been if it was…ya know…actually about Max Now seeing dogshit trailers for the Furiosa story I had to come back here to refuel my sanity and say you were 100% right on the money
You just know that if Joe was played by a handsome dude instead of that out of shape fellow that many people would defend him... and by many people I mean the female audience.
Despite everyone praising this movie up and down I didn't see it, and had no interest in it. I got the impression that it was packed with an agenda, which is the quickest way to turn me off of something. But I'm glad that it is at least realistic in showing a man overpower even a group of women while still suffering from several handicaps. That's pretty believable.
@Jim Johnson it had a production budget of $150 mill it made $302 mill. Personally I don't view it as a feminist movie because the women wouldn't have been able to do anything if it were not for Max.
@Jim Johnson I got the numbers from Forbes I think it was. Whats her name was going to give up after finding out the green place was gone it was Max who convinced her to go back. I watched it again not long ago. Despite the all the feminist shit in the movie, I do admit it is there, Max was the only reason anything actually happened.
+Hyperion "nitpicky"? The dude pointed out actual BIG flaws, that made the entire story of the movie nonsensical. This "nitpicky" argument is only used by butthurt fanboys, who do not have any proper arguments.
I agree with the final comments on the film, MM:FR is a disguised social commentary. Immortal Joe did nothing wrong other than be the responsible and reliable character throughout the film and Max was a lap dog to Furiosa's idiocy and deconstructionism. The ending is not happy; Max knew he had destroyed a civilization and fled because he had no future. Regardless of the authors intent, Bioshock Infinite did something very similar. Every time Dewitt and Elizabeth traveled through a rift, Dewitt would have to deal with a change in Elizabeth's rational and egoism. At the very end, the multiverse thing is nothing more than a deconstructionist ploy to exfoliate that Dewitt did nothing to help Elizabeth, that she couldn't have done herself, except help her completely destroy her rational and character. Both characters are pointless to the plot. Regardless of the author's intent, the story was about how men should only help with the destruction of rational thought and civilization, and then promptly leave. The funny thing is I enjoyed both MM:FR and Infinite, I feel like I am connecting dots that the author either cleverly disguised as idiocy or never intended.
Gonna cannibalize a few of my older comments responding to a popular concern and stick it here. The concern: "Of course Max lets Furiosa and the girls back into the rig. He needs Furiosa to disengage the kill switch and he can't just hope Immortan Joe spares him. Why do you assume Max is being irrational?" My reasoning: Why doesn't Max kick them out AFTER Furiosa deactivated the kill switch? Max had both the rig and the weapons. He had the power to _not_ share a tiny compartment with a bunch of people who wanted to murder him. Now, this issue could've been easily resolved if Max had been unable to take away Furiosa's hidden gun so that when it's pulled on him, he's forced to hold at least one of the girls hostage to save his own skin. Then the scene could play out as it basically already did. But the way it's portrayed, it looks like Max chooses one of the least favorable options almost immediately and doesn't care about the consequences. -Also, while I don't know a lot about kill switches, I do know that one with a timed delay needs a timer. That would normally require an on-board computer system. I highly doubt the war rig's fitted with a computer of any kind (not one that still works, at least), so it's similarly unlikely that Furiosa could achieve anything but a fail-safe that prevents the engine starting at all. But hey, cars are almost never portrayed realistically, especially not in this movie, so it seemed too nit-picky to go after.- EDIT: All this kill switch talk fucked me up a bit. The switches probably kept the fuel pump(s) from starting, which is simpler and fits way better with what happens on-screen. Next point still stands, however. I believe what the movie was going for were analog circuit switches, which would indeed require something at least resembling a sequence. This'd require manually resetting the switches, though, but we're not shown that Furisoa puts (some of) the switches back to their starting positions. Furthermore, when she tells Max the sequence, it's confusing because this means either a) she'd be rigging the vehicle again only to have him undo it, meaning she's giving him information she doesn't need to (the information that persuaded Max to not abandon them), or b) the kill switch rearms itself somehow, which I think is asking too much to accept. I didn't elaborate on any of this in the video and I regret that. Oh, and: Concern: "Max is not the main character in 2 and 3." Response: Then fuck 2 and 3.
I agree with just about everything, but i still enjoy the film. The fact of the manner is my standard for modern films has been set so low by awful movies as of late that this was one of the best standout films of the year.
That "American" emblem you point to at 5:50 is an American Naval Officer's Crest. As a Naval vet, I am offended. Comrade, to which Whiner's Office do I direct my complaint?
I feel like a badass action Putt-Putt movie would have been a better choice over remaking Mad Max. I mean, get Jackie Earle Haley to voice Putt-Putt so we all get it's very dark and serious, Pep will basically serve as the dog from I Am Legend. Cartown is a barren fucking wasteland. We see Putt-Putt monologue about corruption and greed and the value of fuel as he watches cars die, then kills other cars and sucks the fuel out of them so he can complete his mission to save Cartown from the oppressive dictatorship of Mr. Firebird. At the end of the movie, he realises Mr. Firebird's plan all along was to turn Putt-Putt into a ruthless killing machine. We have a scene where Putt-Putt thinks back to all the poor cars he murdered. And then, once he's shaken with grief, and screaming at Mr. Firebird to just kill him already, since he doesn't want to live with the guilt of ending the lives of Redline Rick, Outback Al, all of his closest friends, the biggest plot twist of them all hits him. "I *made* you, Putt-Putt. I am your father." Cue dramatic "NOOOOOO," and Putt-Putt murdering Mr. Firebird. In the end, once Cartown is dead and gone, and after Pep died in the carnage leading up to his confrontation with Mr. Firebird, Putt-Putt drives on through the desert, and the film ends with his gas tank running empty. The credits play silently as we see the silhouette of Putt-Putt's lifeless body.
This almost sounds like the story of God of War. lol Maybe Putt-Putt could wake up in the sequel in a new universe, where he is now an airplane, and he ends up crashing into... the World Trade Center in 2001.
I would had loved if they show a bit more of the human side of Inmortan Joe (why is InmortaNNNN and not inmortal, the fuck? ). Hearing your analysis on his "evil ways" was pretty interesting. He is just doing what humans in a desperate situation would do. Go for the win. He manages to gain a cult of followers, and he just wants a healthy son to be the heir to his domain. That's... Pretty dramatic. A sicken warlord that had two deformed children and has a last chance of having that one good son to look over the land when he parts away... That scene till the end, where Joe's legion is just chilling in a hill, and he is somewhat praying. THE DEFORMED EVIL FAT WARLORD IS PRAYING! That's cool subtle character info. Sadly, he decayed into a expendable evil forced, killed brutally. Seriously, I want to know more about him.
"why is InmortaNNNN and not inmortal, the fuck?" Same reason why they call them wierd fictional slurs: It's however many years in the future, language evolved and it's actually good world building. It's how kids today run around saying "fr fr no cap based cringe foodcel" but Miller doesn't explicitly explain these things out, he just thrusts the audience into the world he created. That's only the dialogue, the acutal set pieces and probs have so much more world building hidden in plain sight.
The Inmortann thing actually makes sense, with how far in the future the movie is and how the prospects of education are, uh, less than ideal to say the least (I doubt that any of these people have english classes on tuesdays or ever went to school at all) it comes across as a natural speech corruption that would happen in this particular scenario
I maintain that warlords like Immortan Joe and Negan are the long-term good guys in any post apocalypse, and a story that bothered to address that would be the best post apocalyptic fiction to date. These people represent stability as well as brutality, and their organization is the best chance the world has of getting back to normal. The story is complete bunk, but it looks nice, and lots of well-regarded films get by on looks and action sequences, so I think it's alright.
El Carlos they were never the ones to fuck everything up though. Quite the contrary in fact, they were always the guys managing to patch things up once they went to hell, or to fend off the bad things for the longest time.
Ace Ambling every EARLY civilizations, and not just by warlords either, but also people that had interests in writing fair laws, and making sure everyone got what they deserved. I mean, the US weren’t founded by warlords, they were founded by soldiers, governors, writers, advocates, merchants. The same goes for Australia (though it wasn’t as prestigious it wasn’t warlords either), and a lot of civilizations in fact. Not that warlords didn’t have a role to play in any of this, but it’s not their ability to wage wars that built their civilizations, it was their ability not to, by writing fair laws, creating efficient bureaucracies and taxation systems, etc.
Lazy Poo the best chance the world has of getting back to normal ? You’re telling me that Negan was a better chance at getting the world back to normal than people who actually tried and managed to recreate and rebuild societies based on the principles of the world they lost ? You’re telling me the man that enforces disproportionate and tyrannical taxation through war is a better shot at recreating the US than people who trade for the goods they need in exchange of goods other needs, exchange intel, and try to have fair processes ? Brutality ain’t a great way to create stable societies, because stable and orderly societies rely on the predictability of the governed and the government. If the government is tyrannical, chaos is bound to appear at some point. A society were dissent leads either to your death/torture, or that of your chief, can’t be, wasn’t, isn’t, and will never be more stable or orderly than a society where you can actually process these things peacefully.
+Matija Škrtić Is it because of the anti-Semitic jokes? That's what makes his videos more hilarious. Anti-PC people are the funniest and I'd hang out with them all day.
american, and better. Also why is it when someone vocalizes their opinions very clearly concisely, and with reason everyone and their mom thinks they can find some flaw with it by "reasoning" (Stating their opinion and assuming everyone knows what they mean with no explanation other than "He/she sucks") it gets quite annoying, at least like 9 of the people in the comments has an i.q of 180, so at the very least at least nine of you could be technically smart enough to wing, which means every single one of you doesn't know how to reason. In which case STATE EVERYTHING YOU SAY AS SUBJECTIVE.
I love your satire and the jokes and small interjections that add personality. I personally just watch that movie as a stupid action film but I am completely dumbfounded why max isnt the protagonist in a movie named after him and all.
They do explain that the guy who used max as a blood bag was going to die anyways, for some sickly reason, and that having max was going to extend his lifespan for just a bit
I love this movie, but I agree with your criticisms. The film is absolute nonsense, but I didn't like it for the good story, or well rounded characters but rather for the bald guys jumping off cars unto other cars with spodey spears
Which is what makes it a bad movie, in our modern age a good way to tell if a movie is good is if people will watch it again in full or if they only watch the best clips on TH-cam.
It's also funny how the movie is one big dysgenic event, where the best of those people (young, healthy males) get killed off, and the ones left behind are a bunch of, for the most part, feeble mutants 22:20, waiting to get conquered and slaughtered by the next passing roving post-apoc gang. How will they survive, if their fighting force just got crushed? What genetic stock is left behind?
Well, they get deformed either way, it seems to be a gamble to have a child in this world, they're either born big and dumb, or smart and deformed. Besides, you don't need much males to recreate a population, but you need lots of young fertile women. And they decided to have some feminist utopia, so good luck with that.
But you still need somewhat healthy, fertile men too. And with the vast majority of the military age men being killed, they will still be forced to wait for another 17-18 years for a new generation of soldiers to grow up. That is enough time for a rivaling warband to slaughter the old, feeble, and women.
Um yeah I had the same complaints about Max not being the main hero of the movie. As you I also have not seen any other previous Mad Max movies. Turns out Max being a bystander is a staple of the series.
The reason Warboi has Max as a "blood bag" is because there is adrenaline in his blood. By fusing his blood and Warbois blood, Warboi gets... more adrenaline? Something like that.
A universal donor? That doesn't work this way. People with 0 (or O how it's called in America for some reason) can only universally donate BLOODCELLS, not the complete blood including the plasma! Their plasma contains antibodies for both A and B, which means if War Boy doesn't have 0 too it will absolutely kill him.
Alias Anybody The antibody is only pertinent to the recipient, while the antigen is pertinent to the donor. A type A individual has anti-B and can therefore receive type A blood which does not have the B antigen, and O blood because O has neither the A antigen nor the B antigen. Type B can receive from B and O. Type O can only receive from O because it has both anti A and B while type AB can receive from A, B, AB, and O because it does not have any antibodies. Important to remember if you are in the medical field.
In the prequel comic it was alluded that women did try to get into the Citadel for a better life. You had 3 chances to produce a child then you were kicked out if you couldn't. Furiosa was actually a bride at one point. Also she stopped one of the women from having an abortion and that caused a lot of people to piss themselves, because Furiousa is a "feminist" in a post apocalyptic world, not a person with diverse world views. Also it mentioned Joe was actually gay but wanted heirs.
The iconic car was destroyed right at the start ? just like how the new Star Wars destroyed the old one in general and specifically killed off or disrespected Luke and Han Solo ? its almost as if there is a hidden meaning behind most of what we are presented as 'popular' media.
Or maybe it's because it's a running joke in the Mad Max films that the car hardly ever has any big role? It's barely in the first or third film, with it only appearing a lot in the second. But of course, you don't know what you're talking about.
While this film was good fun, I did hate how the movie was just a blatant progressive fantasy where an evil patriarchy is torn down by a bunch of righteous women... *eye roll*
Furiosa actually did plan the escape with them in the comics. But sure your point that the movie doesn't do a satisfying job at bridging this gap in the plot still stands, it's just that the comics really supplement it well. Also goes for the backstory on Max and Joe right before the movie starts.
I'm gunna preface with the fact that I am a fan of Mad Max: Fury Road. All I really wanna bring up is: I agree that the story was pretty lack luster, and you did a good job at making me realize how little Max actually accomplished in terms of it being a movie allegedly about him. However, the reason I enjoyed the movie so much, and as you mentioned you did as well, was the actual filming and cinematography within the film, along with the practical effects done throughout the film. Not only were the shots and the visual leading done with the shot placements really well done, but the world created by this was incredible. Throughout the movie the various effects and filter (as you mentioned in the "night" scenes) were all to create the world that was being displayed via keeping the overall image of sand, heat, and emptiness consistent. Granted you mentioned it was painfully obviously it was day (which it was pretty obvious), it's used to give the audience the feeling that it's still the same overwhelmingly hot, barren (mostly) desert wasteland, even at night. I personally feel that this filming prowess as well as the world building are the real reasons behind making this movie, and like I said previously, I am a fan due to this. Everything I just said may be wrong, but it's what I believe (mainly cus it's soooo f*cking cool to watch). I'm not necessarily defending the movies actual story by any means, but I must say that the film itself is objectively from a technical perspective, a masterpiece. (Again, I may wrong) P.S. You should check out Vsauce3's video about surviving the apocalypse, it was pretty cool, and even talked about that night filter thing, not saying it's a counter argument, just thought it'd be interesting to check out in regards to this. Also, the above reason (the rant part) is why I enjoy the film Baby Driver so much. And if you trash Baby Driver, please keep it to the story and characters (which aren't too good, so you'll have lots of ammunition) and not the cinematography or film techniques, please, it'll hit too close to home.
Could be the word for snakes adopted from a nordic language. In norwegian it is written "slanger". I think it's basically the same for swedish and danish too.
War boy used Maxine as a hood ornament because he knew he was in a movie and that as long the main character was in his line of fire at all times, he would never die.
Anthony Hiebert fuck...you may be up to something...
Anthony Hiebert using plot armor as armor brilliant
These people are essentially Jihadis, they deliberately commit suicide when they are near death, they obviously don't give a shit if max dies, they would just kamikaze into the truck at that point
aceman0000099 Lol, this guy didn't get it.
That got a good laugh out of me bro XD
In case anyone's wondering, E;R's not wrong- this film didn't really HAVE a script. It was mostly storyboards. Literal, actual drawn storyboards since it was (almost) all action sequences. It's pretty neat.
@@firstLast-jw7bm That wouldn't work. Not in a Hollywood movie. Nuance isnt their strongsuit
first Last the movie was actually a masterpiece but okay
One of the people who worked on the movie did the Bad Bob episode of Reboot, the Mad Max episode
And yet it is an excellent movie... maybe even other directors should use this technique of not writing a damn script and keeping it simple.
@@Vincent_Clarke It's used all the time.
>Shooting over a shoulder of someone not wearing any hearing protection
Obligatory WHAT scene from Blackhawk Down
Sleelan Best part is Tom Hardy was the guy who deafened his squadmate in BHD
He does go temporarily deaf afterwards tbf
I looked this up and rewatched this scene because I didnt believe it but color me properly informed.
It seems like everyone who was in that movie even in a minor role has had success.
*Cue M249 SAW blasting the FUCK out of some eardrums*
Or the scene in Saving Private Ryan where they're trying to get info from a soldier deafened by a blast...
"Mistreating women"
Shows picture of a woman.
"children"
Shows another picture of a woman.
Well played.
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What anime is this clip from? 4:27
@@Luka2000_ne kužim foru
"You don't have to do it just because he tells you..."
Fine, do it because he tells you *AND* because he has a gun.
i love this movie, vary ballsy to have the bad guys win and he hero die and his kingdom fall ,but such is life.
I always thought of the film like this comment. Especially when Joe says to the desperate water seekers, “you shouldn’t rely on too much water” it’s a weak setup of an antagonist especially since agriculture is already set with a protective force who haven’t damaged the villagers...
@@hopelessent.1700 - Now they can get rid of another stinky white man & replace him with a female protagonist in the next movies, Mad Maxine rides again. LOL A win, win as far as the agenda goes & another loss for common sense.
If this was Miller's plan all along, I applaud him. I mean, the film itself pointed out that the green lands, when controlled by women, withered and died, became the swamp wasteland. Now they come in to Immortan Joe's green pillars, let's the aqua reserves flow with extreme distaste for saving it and let's the low population up the pillars moments after they tear Joe's body apart like wild animals. The movie itself gave you the answer what will happen to this society. Violent collapse. All because of "MUH FEELZ"
Nah, the creators have said that it was Joe's fault that the Green Place dried up. Apparently he stole all the water.
Squelch Otron The film should have shown that then. Any film that requires its creators or outside sources like comics and books to explain important things is a bad movie.
@@squelchotron8259 Sounds like a revisionist garbage move to me. There was no indication of that ever happening in the film.
Cato Malgus Miller creates a lot of backstories and lore to things they generally keep private
@@chip6933 Makes sense. Even if he decides to share his "private" lore ideas to the public, he'd definitely revision some of them so he wouldn't get heat for it. Fury Road compared to Road Warrior is very very tame
If the war boy was the main character and Max helped him rebel, id be so much better
That is actually in the movie tho
You'd be better at what exactly?
I actually expected max to help the people in the "village" (or whatever it is) rebel against inmortan instead of this shitty movie.
It had some nice visuals and music,but the plot itself was fucking terrible and Max feels like a secondary character.
BUT DA WAMENS
Kishka thats the point... Max is as soulless as ever by this film and makes sense that it would be boring to portray a quiet character for a full length film.
After living such a cushy lifestyle, these women wouldn't make it an hour on their own. They were so damn smug while accepting the help of these people.
Adonan the Stoic
Imagine if he actually shot her after she mocked him while he had a gun to her head.
@@someguy4405 that's actually something the Max from the second film would do, or at least something similar, as he had an supporting characters captive with an shotgun pointing at his head and only depending in his dog's head movement to blow the guy's head to pieces, and also an armed bomb in his car just in case
@E
Those handcuffs are made of hardened steel. You‘ll need ten minutes to get through them. Your ankle will take two.
George Miller really is a shitlord, huh?
@@KaoruSF The shotty wasnt loaded tho.
The original trilogy has, at least to me, a totally different atmosphere to it. Sure, there are some really weird characters like Lord Humungus and Tina Turner but overall the world of the wasteland is just the regular world gone to shit. And especially in Mad Max and The Road Warrior it still feels like it all happens in the real world. Fury Road has this magical, fantastical aspect to it. Everything is exaggerated to the max, from the cars to the characters and the Citadel. It's like the film makes the world, and especially the desert seem like this mythical place, an otherworld or something whereas the OG Mad Max it was just Australian outback. And who built the Citadel anyway? That water drain system requires some pretty decent engineering and the switches looked brand new, too.
Also, when Furiosa says they can drive 160 days to "that direction", what it really means is that they would have circled the earth about five times if they rode about 60 mph and didn't run out of gas. I found that funny. Also, I don't know how they can drive that long without refueling.
HenkkaArt That makes perfect sense
HenkkaArt There's actually a bit of backstory involved in Immortan Joe and the Citadel. Before the Great War He and the Bullet Farmer were soldiers, and at some point they found a survivor who told them about a massive aquifer/ water treatment plant. Looking their resources Joe and his crew rolled deep and took over the Citadel, and from their established a power base to contruct Gastown and the Bullet Farm. The three Warlords were those positioned to share power and rule the wasteland with an iron fist.
Devin Mcclanahan
But the backstory is in some other form of media? A comic book? A website? When discussing film, secondary forms of media shouldn't be needed to understand and/or criticize a film, its plot, characters and production quality. Unless they hand out the comic book or whatever to you when you go to the theater and let you read it before the movie begins. And even then, it is a testament to poor storytelling.
HenkkaArt The vague, visuallt-driven form ofnstorytelling is there to grip the audience and make them want more. It's there to make them to put and search for more media on the subject, broadening their horizons and, thus, increasing the sales of the franchise as a whole.
Little thing called 'marketing', maybe you've heard of it?
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Spoon-feeding? Explaining ridiculous things to make them make sense in the movie's world isn't spoon-feeding. If nobody told you what elves are, like the basics of fantasy elves, would you feel that it was spoon-feeding for LOTR to explain during the movie's runtime in reasonable dialogue or visual storytelling that elves are as a matter of fact immortal and cannot fall ill etc? Or how can Legolas see so far?
honestly, the story of the mad max game should have been the story of this one. Max loses famous car, finds crazy deformed person, they work together to build the penultimate car for max to be selfish and drive through the great beyond (essentially drive so far from everyone else that by the time he runs out of resources he dies). Through max's quest with Quasimodo he learns to give a shit about other people, saves a sex slave and her kid, they die anyway from bad guy, max sacrifices everything to take vengeance on bad guy proving that he is still ultimately acting through selfishness and his own need to have a reason to cause destruction. Honestly, I don't know how the game writers were able to write such a better mad max sequel.
Yeah, that game actually got to me. I was legit angry when the girls died
Because they know people play video games for a story, and thus actually tried to make a story, instead of the mad max films which are more or less about action scenes rather than plot.
David Elliott it’s wrong and you’re very bad at understanding this.
I don’t know if this person’s understanding of the game corresponds to what happens in it, but he makes pretty clear in his description that the reason why he says Mad Max is still selfish is because he is still using whatever he can to destroy things.
And... vengeance isn’t necessarily motivated by selflessness, far from it. There actually quite a bit of stories revolving around selfish revenge, where the main character or the villain uses the death of someone else, or someone else’s loss, to justify their personal bloodlust, despite either not suffering that loss personally and being told it doesn’t matter/justify their actions, or not being the one that should be affected by the death in the first place.
@The Real Starlord jesus chill tf out. He said max sacrificies everything because he quite literally loses everything he had hopes for. However, his actions afterwards are still selfish (like not having a problem with killing chumbucket as long as he got his revenge, or forgetting about everything and speeding off in his interceptor relieved of leaving). Only in fury road he gets a sense of selflessness.
+@authorization batman it's been a year since you posted this comment and it really itches my creative bone in all the wrong ways.
If from what you got from the story is that it's jabbing at men and saying that they're all selfish pigs then you're absolutely insane. The whole point of the story is that deep down Max is a selfish man. His actions of avenging the girls are noble, but it's selfish in that he is willing to (and does) destroy everything around him to get what he wants.
In the end he has a deathwish. Hell dying is what his original goal was. And even after the death of the girls that still is his goal when he wreaks destruction on everything and everyone in his way regardless if they had anything to do with him.
Max is a very flawed man. He has no purpose in life other than to wander the wastes until he dies, and will selfishly hold onto whatever purpose is given to him even if it means hurting those around him who didn't deserve it.
Kinda interesting to me how E;R predicted the "Replace the male lead with a stronger female character trend". That's become popular recently.
Some examples being, The recent HE-Man series, which is all about the woman, the Obi-wan tv series, the recent Thor movie. And the Loki tv series, all of which are named after a male character, but star female leads instead. Very interesting.
Who is E R?
You're exactly right. I watched a breakdown of this (no longer new) trope in another video a week ago. Basically, they are using all of these once popular male characters to "pass the torch" to female characters (or just non-white characters)...elevating them above men. You rarely see a movie about a "father figure" and boy/son anymore. It's always a father and daughter now. Disney is especially guilty of this. It's all propaganda.
What's really interesting is that this movie might have started the whole 'Strong woman' trend with movies - Star Wars, GhostBusters, Ocean's 8, Terminator DF. Would be interesting to see how this movie would be received if it was released 5 years later.
@@mesicek7 Probably like the new part is being received right now - shaping up to be a box office flop.
Thor and Loki really don't fit this description
There's a defense for Max's diminished role in Fury Road that always makes me roll my eyes. People always bring up "well, it's always been Max wandering into someone else's story! Guess YOU'RE not the true fan after all huh?!"
That's true...for 2 and 3. And even in those films, it's told almost entirely from Max's viewpoint. It's not his story, per se, but he IS the main character, in the same way The Man with No Name is the protagonist of the Dollars Trilogy.
And in those two movies, Max isn't the narrator. He's this almost mythic figure that the narrator is reminiscing about. The fact that HE is the narrator in Fury Road is the final confirmation that Furiosa has taken his place as the focal protagonist.
And I'm saying this all as someone who really enjoyed Fury Road, even if I did internally groan at a few of the more hamfisted moments. As much as I enjoyed the film (and think it made up for how batshit stupid Thunderdome was), I despise it when people try to defend it with disingenuous arguments.
One of er's first complaints about the film is that the main character isn't the main character.
That's not really a valid complaint. That's like saying "Hey, I saw Boogie Nights and nowhere in the film was there boogying across multiple nights."
Well remember its 20XX, if you dont unconditionally praise and love stronk wombon movie heroes you are just a basic Cis-Het woman-hater warboy deserving to have feminist granny marauder gang hunt you down LOL
I just saw it in the theatre yesterday my first time seeing it been a while since ive seen road warrior or thunderdome just recently rewatched mad max. Wow it was fun inwouldve liked max to play a more active role but I also enjoyed furyosa. The theatre was rattling engines drums and that electric guitar. Its not something id seriously analyze I enjoyed the spectacle. Reminded me of a a high end Kung Fu or epic chinese war movie not really here cause I care about the characters so much as the choreography.
@@CookiesfromHell I can’t tell whether you are trying to be funny or are actually trying to make a valid argument.
First part of thunderdome was better then garbage road
I watched the movie assuming that Joe was the good guy being brought down by a bunch of selfish idiots, and it was pretty great.
you arent good with women are you
White knighting won't get you laid either
lol as if joe wanst selfish, go fuck yourself
@@maryasuestark5208 being frustrated with woman, wont make your suffering go away, idiot.
Yeah but he’s ugly, so he HAS to be the bad guy
Actually, you're right. I fucking love Tom Hardy and everything he does - I'm biased - but Mel would have really mopped the floor in returning to Mad Max. Hardy's portrayal was much less nuanced and 'survivalist', whereas Mel showed the character to be fairly established and well-rounded. Also, way less crazy! But that's fine. I like them both. :) Here's a like!
I would levee one argument and say that Fury Road is, essentially, a feminist fake-out film. Here's the lead Go-Girl, leading her people to a promised land that doesn't exist... Gee. When that fails, she decides to redistribute the wealth, essentially demolishing the society that her predecessors built. *How familiar.*
Perhaps if Immortan was in charge of the "Green Place" instead of the Golden Girls, then maybe he could have kept it green by rationing water, you know, like he did in the Citadel. Also, he would have probably named it something less retarded than the "Green Place".
to be fair to the people who named Green Place, none of the other names were that good. Gas Town and Bullet Farm aren't exactly the height of creativity.
His place is called "Green Pillars", so I don't think he would fair that much better when it comes to naming.
@The No.1 Guy On top of that, appearently the grandma's and Joe (and Max too) are supposed to be old enough to remember "from before" and thus could prob name shit better, but i guess they kept it simple so the barbarian cancer generation dont have to think too hard or something dunno LOL
@@ggwp638BC that actually sounds alot better. Similar to how the movie cool runnings sounds better than if it was called cool things.
@@ggwp638BC That actually makes me think twice about the theory that Joe's order represents masculinity, while the Vulvalini's order represents femininity.
Both locations contain the word "green", as in fertile. Fertile place...Fertile pillar...
I have a fertile pillar...
Anyway, as far as I recall, the theory is that Joe's order represents misogyny, while the Vulvalini's represent misandry.
Both are too extreme and therefore self-defeating.
Max has never been a really fleshed out character in any of the films. He used to be a highway patrol cop and who loved the thrill of a the hunt/car chase. Then the world starts ending, crime is going up, plenty of work for him, and he's concerned that he's enjoying it. His only anchor to decency is the remaining police force and his family. But the police can't handle an apocalypse, dwindling numbers on their side, growing numbers of gangs, ineptitude, corruption, which leads to a gang killing Max's wife and child. Max snaps, goes on a rampage, gets his revenge, but then doesn't have anything to go back to afterward. So, it's presumed he just drives off into the outback for self-imposed exile and penance, acting as a knight errant, helping people when he can, but never feeling like he can settle down or get attached to anyone ever again, for fear that he'll be too weak or too slow and end up losing another family.
That actually sounds like a pretty okay character now that I write this out. I guess the larger problem that he kinda gets played as, "I lost my family and I'm sad, but also mad =("
The way you put it, Max sounds fucking awesome. Until he seems to hit a plateau with his fear of attachment and becomes an entirely static character. I'd forgive that--maybe even prefer it--if Max were still the one driving the story. Don't know how it is in the other films, but he sure ain't here.
Max has been exactly like this in all films except the first one. In Road Warrior, Thunderdome, and now Fury Road, he's the guy who gets drawn up into the plights of other people at the expense of himself. It's implied that he's helping them in order to retain the last bit of his humanity. He's never the driving force because his altruism gets in the way.
You're criticizing the film for not being enough about Max while not having seen the previous films?
Come on. I get this concept not being something you enjoy, but don't cry false advertising.
You say that (and I can only assume you didn't watch the video, or else you're conveniently sidestepping my disclaimer that I would only be discussing Feels Road as a standalone), but what I'm getting out of your comment is that all but the first film is a clusterfuck of false advertising. Which really doesn't surprise me.
@@esemicolonr Then why don't you see them? He drives the story in the other movies, they just don't entirely revolve around his own problems.
@@esemicolonr”False advertising” bro… you make good arguments but this ain’t it. He is a lone wanderer that gets caught up in conflicts that don’t involve him. He isn’t the center of the universe. Also he is as much a main character in this film as Furiosa is. The day wouldn’t have been saved if it weren’t for Max. He goes through w character arc of becoming more trusting in others.
The reason the bikes have to think about riding for 160 days is because at this point in the mad max universe the the oceans have dried up, so there's a lot more land
I dunno which exact time this movie is supposed to be, Max lost his car like waaay before this movie (Mad Max 2, and the nukes didnt happen until between Mad Max 2 and 3, kinda too fast for the oceans to dry up) and suddenly he have it back now like nothijg ahppened and lose it again, next movie he is gonna have it back again i presume?
@Guacamole Nigga Penis *shrugs* Hollywood.
@@SwedishEmpire1700 There’s several ways to interpret Max in this movie. It could be he is a new man who took up the name Max, carrying his legend. Or it could be another made up story about Max, hence his lack of old age. There’s a channel called the Mad Max Bible that explains that this movie’s Max was supposed to be an unhinged, monstrous old man. But several things caused this to change, such as time, Mel Gibson being insane, etc.
@Joan 😎
How the fuck did all the worlds oceans dry up
Man, the whole point of Mad Max's world is that humanity stops giving a fuck about all pre-existing pomp and circumstance when the apocalypse hits and reinvents their own. Hence the reliance on motor vehicles because not only is there no way we're going back on foot after centuries of cars, but _fucking look at them_, and The Doof Warrior's flaming guitar being a reinterpretation of the ye olde little drummer boy
@Greg Wasdyke That's cool and all but seeing as it's the apocalypse, and they're whole focus is on getting enough food and water to survive till tomorrow, where do they get all that fuel? Where do they get oil for all those engines? And where do they get all the parts they need for all those cars and trucks and big rigs? There's no way they're still machining those parts, drilling for oil, let alone refining it into fuel. And what about the tires, how many tires must they go through? I mean they're literally looking for enough food and water to survive till tomorrow, yet they have an endless amount of oil, fuel, tires, car, truck, and big rig parts for everything? What the fuck? Is there no such thing as rust in this world?
Brent Clouda "There's no way they're still machining those parts, drilling for oil, let alone refining it into fuel" That's what gastown does
" how many tires must they go through?" There actually are a lot of vehicles in these movies that don't have real tires.
"endless amount of oil, fuel, tires, car, truck, and big rig parts for everything? "
There's an emphasis on vehicles in the films but there's never actually that many in the grand scheme of things. Hell, a lot of these trucks are just a bunch of smaller cars cobbled together.
Also, in this apocalypse, people act on their base instincts to survive but really no one even fucking cares. The MM world is what it is because it's run by adrenaline junkie nihilists. Also, the movie is created by people who also don't give that much of a fuck, which if you didn't notice, is a lot of the appeal.
gas town you dunce
The second film also reinforced the Apocalyptic feel by having only two actual weapons in the film, while the rest is handmade crap.
@@liteney yeah most people in the modern Mad Max universe are struggling to survive another day and wouldn't have access to vehicles, which is why they don't. The limit range of the movie may be deceiving but there are few groups that have access to vehicles. The only ones with vehicles in the movie are Joe's armada and his allies, Max who used to be some sort of cop or law enforcer, the spiky gang who are suppossed to be guards/scavengers of a particular area and the women from the green place, and it makes sense that all of those have access to such commodities due to their social status and/or profession, which is why regular people don't have them and the film makes a point to show it, with the inhabitants of the Citadel being limited to extremely poor living conditions and the radio transmissions of people saying that they will "kill for gasoline", showing how scarce these resources actuallu are
20:17 I think the idea is the "barren salt flats" are supposed to be the dried up ocean.
But wouldn't having an entire ocean in the atmosphere lead to lots of rain, ending or at least interfering with the drought?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaan. We ain't got tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiime to worry about the water cycle. There's cars that need 'splodin'.
+jalan ganje I have an idea, since clouds usually like to rain on high altitude locations perhaps the sort of "mountain" where the citadel is have some sort of funnel that collects water and sends it down a REALLLY long tube into the citadel?
Well lets see. Google maps ---> from Shanghai to San Francisko (just for an example). Travel time just under 13 hours with a commercial plane. Comercial planes usually fly at mach 0.8/0.9 which is around 277 m/s. The bikes would drive across the salt flats how fast? Lets be generous and say 60km/h. Thats around 16 m/s which is 17 times slower than the airplane. This means that it would theoretically take 221 hours which is basically 9 days to make the trip from Shanghai to San Francisco on bikes across salt flats. Of course the ocean bed is not completely flat and there will most definitely be many natural barriers and they will not be driving 24/7 so you could double it and add a bit more days but as it is, fuel for 120+ days or how many she said? Yeah I don't think they need to worry about not hitting any "land" while crossing the salt flats.
22:19 can there be a better example than this, I think not
trycoldman23 knowing that you're a fellow german only makes this comment funnier
:^)
Woah careful my dudes. The Merkel reich will hunt you down for "racism".
Well if we don't hear back from them, we know what happened.
How dare you attack Babe: Pig In The City like this
The milk cows unleashing all the water into the sunbaked dirt really made me feel bad. RIP
If I existed in this world, I'd do my damnedest to aid Joe's empire. It's the only stable society in Mad Max that I know of. I'd collect some books and set up a nice laboratory to study the old world, and see if there is any way to improve his empire.
its really not
Melbourne was left relatively untouched and is under control of the Australian Defence Force they just don't go out rescuing people they just protect the city from outside threats
Yes.
Dangerous Joy The towns in the first movie weren't so bad either.
And before fanboys swoop in with misinformation... Yes the first movie did take place after the appocalypse.
Miller himself confirmed this.
Now, you see, the problem here is that you're trying to apply logic and reason to mindless entertainment that was never meant to be in contact with such things
Study while you are dying of thirst.
14:55 That scene couldn't have been better short of Max just literally spanking them.
I'm kinda shocked they let Max win that fight.
I can tell you that MM (I) was pretty good, low-budget fun. The idiots who made it didn't even realise that stunt drivers and riders don't have to go over 100mph to LOOK like they're going over 100mph on film because - the wonders of cinematography! So they really did go over 100mph (and one or two killed themselves). It made for a unique look during the chases.
Personally I think the realism adds that much more to the original. No film has ever had car chases that are half as gripping. Most people apparently cant but I can tell when a movie car chase isnt actually happening at the implied speeds. Also the fact that two stuntman died is part of why the movie is so legendary, two souls were sacrificed to create that art.
Nobody died in the filming of any of the Mad Max films, though there were injuries.
@@shan4680 Yeh, it's the archetypal urban legend (probably a lot of shenanigans balancing publicity and insurance claims at the time and afterwards though). But as you say, there was certainly plenty of mayhem.
lol, "Women, children (women), and puppies!" Got me good
Charlie Chuckles It's funny, because most of the time women see men as children
@@zacnieprawisz9171 "NO U"
lmao the irony. Way to prove his point.
@@klondikepete4279 Do you speak English?
I've had this in my "Watch Later" for almost two years, and after watching Fury Road for the 12th time this past weekend, I finally decided to watch this all the way through while things are slow at the office, post-Holiday. I say all of that to say this: I can't remember a single video causing me to almost blow coffee out my nose as many times as this. Well done, dude.
You got yourself a new subscriber, your sense of humor is hilarious
MedicEne You mean 4chans sense of humor?
Zantic Trant the 4chan man.
"I thought the flame guitar bit is kinda stupid."
NEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRDDDD
They are fighting for fuel and water. What does a flamethrower need to work? An easy flammable liquid. Such as fuel
There are times when you throw out all reason for awesomeness, that was it. Also it was the whole movie.
@@jaylucino8890 yet that is exactly the reason why fury road is not a good movie mate, it does not tie in with the first three films were fuel is rare, and yet they have time for a flaming guitar of all things
@@theincrediblehulk5797 bro have you even wathced the third movie ? its even more unbelievable and doesnt even feel like post apocolypse this movie is objectivly better like bro there is a muscular down syndrome guy that has a small motherfucker leading him that rolls in pigshit in the middle of the film.
@@narcick1018 bro at least it’s more believable then a guy having the time and resources to play a freaking flaming guitar with bungee cords and shit
I thought it was crap then, and the recent mad max without max proved it was never about him. Take a bow E:R. You were right.
I mean even in the previous movies outside the first it was a series about a drifter that got involved in other people's story than fucked off and side characters mattered more. Fury road took that further but this isn't weird for the series. I mean this is the guy shocked max list his car at the start even though that's...also tradition
@@LondonLock MM 1 - Max's origin story , MM 2 - Max as the drifter going around searching for gas and meeting people/enemies. MM 3 more of the same except here you have his lore told by kids. Suffers from sequel syndrome. It's always been about Max and how he operated in the world that became a wasteland.
I'm so thankful that there is at least ONE accurate, honest & true breakdown of this movie... Thank You Forever.
@@lukaskrtic5690 "yeah, the story shouldn't be relevant to a movie!" -your dumbass
At least Max walked away before the water ran out. Hopefully he remembered to get his car before he left.
#LastV8Intercepter
Yeah the car is what most of us loves Mad Max for.
I have been waiting for YEARS for a video to spell out every single gripe I had with this movie and with its inexplicable almost universal praise. So glad I found yours, even after all this time. THANK YOU SIR.
The Merkel got me.
Funniest bit in the vid.
He aint wrong
@@jonasribeiro2001 he is wrong. Merkel never let shit into Europe. That's just a meme
@@wasneeplus you sure big fella, all the rape going on down there was just imaginary? Maybe we need more pamphlets sent out
Looking at the comments, am I the only one that took this review as a light piece of entertainment and only came off with a laugh?
LazyScoutJace
I did. People need to chill out
I love this movie because of the action and I love this video.
LazyScoutJace
It appears so.
This particular comment thread is an oasis. Just try to remember that 90% of comments come from people who are already disturbed to begin with. It doesn't represent the viewer base accurately.
because it's full of shitty politically insane jokes that you only won't care about if you agree with them
10:15 "Because women are the borg" that's actually not that far from the truth
Actually no, its a running joke in every movie that the car doesn't get much screentime. Its barely in the first and third movie; the only time it gets any real time onscreen is in the second film and even that wasn't much.
Right? He starts the review off by saying he doesn't watch any other films in the franchise, but assumed the car was a big part of it.
Eh? Come again?
@The No.1 Guy Not to mention the Interceptor Pursuit Special was like hand-made for Max as "candy" to keep him on the job = pretty much fucking impossibly rare to find an almost exact identical working copy out in the wasteland some 40 years after the apocalypse. But hey! ya know the car is part of the character now so gotta shoehorn it in somehow even how dumb it looks so they can milk the Nostalgia Boys.
If this movie was released today people wouldn't be as forgiving as they were back then.
It flopped back then also at the box office, it was so expensive and they marketed it harder than any movie. But yeah it would bomb even worse if it came out today.
It still gets praised, so no, I think people are forgiving of it.
@@matteomastrodomenico1231 People are praising the amazing practical effects. The story is basically nonexistent which nothing new considering how the movie was basically made from photo collages
E;R called out Furiosa for taking over Mad Max in his own movie. Eight years later Furiosa has her own trailer for her movie called Furiosa. What a coincidence that the next Mad Max movie would continue without Mad Max.🙃
Got to love how they still call it Mad Max for brand recognition.
Disgusting cynical pricks.
When they could have easily made a fricking Fury Road prequel with Hardy as Max since it' s a different universe than the Gibson one.
George Miller literally announced it after Fury Road released, it wasn't a surprise for anyone. It's not even a continuation just a prequel to flesh out the character.
Holy shit this channel is like /tv/ incarnate.
Once he says "kino", I'll agree with this.
Pretty sure he has.
Citation needed.
Bruh I don't remember every one of these videos
fuck, that's why i feel a familiar feeling watching his stuff. I'm glad i left that place.
How can you not have watched the other Mad Max movies?
Dallas i didnt either
For shame. Go watch 1 and 2.
i did, pacing made them kinda boring but i'll let that pass since all movies from those years were like that, the 1st is just a usual action movie, and only the 2nd has the post-apocalyctic setting which made it more interesting and is actually worth watching, but 1 is too generic and is nothing special
Dallas
Yeah Road Warrior Was Da Shit
@@banino9295 yeah because you are used to action movies where there is an explosion every five seconds
I loved the guitar player, especially when they enter the boggy area and he starts playing sludge/stoner metal to emphasize the bogginess of the situation.
Crazy Cat Doof warrior, not even once
One thing you have to see the other films to 'get' vis a vis Fury Road is that - save in the first film - Max himself is a cipher. He's not the center of the narrative, just competent outsider who is integral to the other characters succeeding.
The sequel really does show how no one gave a shit about Furisoa, like why was she the main character in a MAD MAX movie?????
Moral of the story never let women in charge
Even in the apocalypse 😂😂😂
***Especially in the apocalypse
I would suggest that you do watch the other Mad Max films, bc after the first one, Max DOES actually become more of a prop than a character. He's the lense through which the audience experiences the story, but he isn't really the main protagonist in that he more or less stumbles into other people's story arcs and takes part in them against his will.
(Still really funny video though)
That would imply those movies are something more than actions with Max as the main action hero. The second has no plot at all anyway. The third one has a little more and that plot is making Max into desert Jesus so how is he not important?
Hurbs Buckooglberb There isn't really that much structure sure but there is a plot. Max and a bunch of innocent people with gasoline are stuck in a fort with psychos outside, Max tries to help.
Don't forget destroying his Interceptor in Road Warrior.
The second actually does have him there as a character.
After the events of the first he strides out into the wasteland searching for meaning, and finds it in that camp of survivors, who he is reluctant to help at first, but when his dog is killed and his car destroyed(yes. Destroyed. As in blown to shreds.) he joins them, not for their sake, but simply to kill the shitheads who shot his dog, as he descovers that revenge is an excellent motive to continue living.
After he kills the gang, he wanders back into the wastes, searching once more.
The third movie introduces the kids... and yeah it was pretty stupid having a psycho like Max sacrafice himself for the lost boys.
Skip the game. Its bad.
In the new movie its suddenly all "Dont die. Dont get killed." as if Max has ever cared about death.
Finally, a review of this movie with some actual thought put behind it.
This was the most thoughtless review iv'e ever heard.
+Nolan Thomas
thoughtless like ur mum :DDDDDDDDD
this is literally the least thurough, most inane above surface-level analysis of this film i've ever seen, it's like level -1, he didn't even get the things that just about every normal filmgoer got about the movie
calling "muh women" and obsessing over women in movies "thoughts" is the reason why you are a virgin.
Despite all that, the movie is what it is meant to be: entertaining.
@Glenna Smith Huh, well after looking it up I am honestly surprised that it spent a lot more money and earned a lot less than I would have expected. It didn't lose money but it also hardly made a whole lot either. Its a fun film to watch and the dumb plot doesnt ruin the fun that much so maybe it had a weird release date?
The implication when she says, "It will take 160 days" is that there is no more ocean. The salt. It's Salt Water minus the WATER. THE SALT. The ocean is fucking huge. Minus water, it's a lot to bike across.
I assumed they meant salt flats. I suppose because that's inherently more sensible than the idea that the ocean's water disappeared, which is... impossible.
This setting is getting a bit too goofy...
The idea is that all the water dried up into the dirt of the planet, which would be impossible, yeah, but you have to stretch your disbelief at least a little bit. I still agree that the rest is dumb, and the fact that they know that the water is gone at least across the ocean would remove any idea of finding a water source on the other side of a dried up water source.
Do marvel movies; I said marvel not DC because well DC is already shit!
+E;R
You made a review of Mad Max, but you don't know the premise of Mad Max?
@@jim4686 OG Mad Max never implies the water is disappearing, its just the story of highway patrol cop dealing with criminal biker gangs in a slowly degenerating society. OG Mad Max wouldnt be out of place in a modern third world country, the sequels increasingly drift off into fantasy land.
I would also like to point out that in a world like Mad Max, women would want their babies to become warlords. So they can then use their sons (or daughters) for influence and power. The more selfless women would try to get their boys to be heroic warlords, to use their power for good and to never give up to adversity, while the more selfish women would want warlord kids so that they can mooch off all the influence they can as some kind of dowager or adviser for their son.
Christopher Brice
No, I actually study history and societies. I actually use my brain instead of regurgitating popular feminist claptrap.
>iamverysmart
+TrouderMonstur
Practically.......
When I first watched this movie I turned my brain off and really liked it. Tom was great and I accepted it as just a dumb cool fun spectacle in a fantasy world I found interesting
Your review totally changed my mind when I realized it was good in spite of a lot of bullshit, but more importantly how unfathomably better the movie could’ve been if it was…ya know…actually about Max
Now seeing dogshit trailers for the Furiosa story I had to come back here to refuel my sanity and say you were 100% right on the money
I enjoyed the visual gag with "women, children and puppies."
those are not chastity belts,
Joe just enjoys some weird stuff...
dddddamn
You just know that if Joe was played by a handsome dude instead of that out of shape fellow that many people would defend him... and by many people I mean the female audience.
Your videos are so good mayn
yuuup, he's great :)
Despite everyone praising this movie up and down I didn't see it, and had no interest in it. I got the impression that it was packed with an agenda, which is the quickest way to turn me off of something. But I'm glad that it is at least realistic in showing a man overpower even a group of women while still suffering from several handicaps. That's pretty believable.
@Jim Johnson uh it wasn't a flop
@Jim Johnson it had a production budget of $150 mill it made $302 mill. Personally I don't view it as a feminist movie because the women wouldn't have been able to do anything if it were not for Max.
@Jim Johnson I got the numbers from Forbes I think it was. Whats her name was going to give up after finding out the green place was gone it was Max who convinced her to go back. I watched it again not long ago. Despite the all the feminist shit in the movie, I do admit it is there, Max was the only reason anything actually happened.
Came back here because of the new NOT Mad Max movie.
Yup. Me too. I can’t wait for him to dissect that inevitable flop of a movie
Holy hell did somebody link this video to r/cuckoldry or something?
What's with all these comments ahahhaa
Regula Gianci make a shitty "critique", get a shitty critique
"expect" E;R was being really nitpicky throughout the entire video, sooo...
+Hyperion
"nitpicky"? The dude pointed out actual BIG flaws, that made the entire story of the movie nonsensical. This "nitpicky" argument is only used by butthurt fanboys, who do not have any proper arguments.
Regula Gianci is that a thing?
oh no, I'm sorry we've ruined your safe space with evil ideas that don't align with yours
I agree with the final comments on the film, MM:FR is a disguised social commentary. Immortal Joe did nothing wrong other than be the responsible and reliable character throughout the film and Max was a lap dog to Furiosa's idiocy and deconstructionism. The ending is not happy; Max knew he had destroyed a civilization and fled because he had no future. Regardless of the authors intent, Bioshock Infinite did something very similar. Every time Dewitt and Elizabeth traveled through a rift, Dewitt would have to deal with a change in Elizabeth's rational and egoism. At the very end, the multiverse thing is nothing more than a deconstructionist ploy to exfoliate that Dewitt did nothing to help Elizabeth, that she couldn't have done herself, except help her completely destroy her rational and character. Both characters are pointless to the plot. Regardless of the author's intent, the story was about how men should only help with the destruction of rational thought and civilization, and then promptly leave. The funny thing is I enjoyed both MM:FR and Infinite, I feel like I am connecting dots that the author either cleverly disguised as idiocy or never intended.
Jerk yourself off some more my friend
ok
When I first watched this I was like 15 or so. Now that I saw this review...my eyes are open to the truth
same
@Jesus mf Christ “Wow, a guy being motivated by a WOMAN, that’s just plain WRONG, BAAAHHHHHHH”!
That’s you, that’s how you sound.
As someone who enjoyed this movie, i was there just to see the cars blow up and people die. This movie satisfied that.
I still like the scenes with the guitar player playing the sweet riffs.
I miss E;R... He was the chosen shitlord.... but when the world needed him most yaddyyadda
You wuz right kang
Gonna cannibalize a few of my older comments responding to a popular concern and stick it here.
The concern:
"Of course Max lets Furiosa and the girls back into the rig. He needs Furiosa to disengage the kill switch and he can't just hope Immortan Joe spares him. Why do you assume Max is being irrational?"
My reasoning:
Why doesn't Max kick them out AFTER Furiosa deactivated the kill switch? Max had both the rig and the weapons. He had the power to _not_ share a tiny compartment with a bunch of people who wanted to murder him. Now, this issue could've been easily resolved if Max had been unable to take away Furiosa's hidden gun so that when it's pulled on him, he's forced to hold at least one of the girls hostage to save his own skin. Then the scene could play out as it basically already did. But the way it's portrayed, it looks like Max chooses one of the least favorable options almost immediately and doesn't care about the consequences.
-Also, while I don't know a lot about kill switches, I do know that one with a timed delay needs a timer. That would normally require an on-board computer system. I highly doubt the war rig's fitted with a computer of any kind (not one that still works, at least), so it's similarly unlikely that Furiosa could achieve anything but a fail-safe that prevents the engine starting at all. But hey, cars are almost never portrayed realistically, especially not in this movie, so it seemed too nit-picky to go after.-
EDIT: All this kill switch talk fucked me up a bit. The switches probably kept the fuel pump(s) from starting, which is simpler and fits way better with what happens on-screen. Next point still stands, however.
I believe what the movie was going for were analog circuit switches, which would indeed require something at least resembling a sequence. This'd require manually resetting the switches, though, but we're not shown that Furisoa puts (some of) the switches back to their starting positions. Furthermore, when she tells Max the sequence, it's confusing because this means either a) she'd be rigging the vehicle again only to have him undo it, meaning she's giving him information she doesn't need to (the information that persuaded Max to not abandon them), or b) the kill switch rearms itself somehow, which I think is asking too much to accept.
I didn't elaborate on any of this in the video and I regret that.
Oh, and:
Concern: "Max is not the main character in 2 and 3."
Response: Then fuck 2 and 3.
In summary, it's a bullshit female empowerment film.
No, not really.
Pepper Millers That's what I got from analysis.
I agree with just about everything, but i still enjoy the film. The fact of the manner is my standard for modern films has been set so low by awful movies as of late that this was one of the best standout films of the year.
So you're racist and you like anime? That makes you an easy target.
That "American" emblem you point to at 5:50 is an American Naval Officer's Crest. As a Naval vet, I am offended. Comrade, to which Whiner's Office do I direct my complaint?
"Buckle up, because you're in for two hours of *explosions*"
That's what I paid for.
I feel like a badass action Putt-Putt movie would have been a better choice over remaking Mad Max. I mean, get Jackie Earle Haley to voice Putt-Putt so we all get it's very dark and serious, Pep will basically serve as the dog from I Am Legend. Cartown is a barren fucking wasteland. We see Putt-Putt monologue about corruption and greed and the value of fuel as he watches cars die, then kills other cars and sucks the fuel out of them so he can complete his mission to save Cartown from the oppressive dictatorship of Mr. Firebird. At the end of the movie, he realises Mr. Firebird's plan all along was to turn Putt-Putt into a ruthless killing machine. We have a scene where Putt-Putt thinks back to all the poor cars he murdered.
And then, once he's shaken with grief, and screaming at Mr. Firebird to just kill him already, since he doesn't want to live with the guilt of ending the lives of Redline Rick, Outback Al, all of his closest friends, the biggest plot twist of them all hits him. "I *made* you, Putt-Putt. I am your father."
Cue dramatic "NOOOOOO," and Putt-Putt murdering Mr. Firebird. In the end, once Cartown is dead and gone, and after Pep died in the carnage leading up to his confrontation with Mr. Firebird, Putt-Putt drives on through the desert, and the film ends with his gas tank running empty. The credits play silently as we see the silhouette of Putt-Putt's lifeless body.
This almost sounds like the story of God of War. lol
Maybe Putt-Putt could wake up in the sequel in a new universe, where he is now an airplane, and he ends up crashing into... the World Trade Center in 2001.
Helene Prideaux I think that's basically cars 3
"i would have to see the other movies as well; and unfortunately after this one, that ain't gonna happen"
BIG MISTAKE
04:29 Omfg the subs! I literally, (proper use of the word) laughed SO hard my dog came over to see what was up xD Brilliant!
I would had loved if they show a bit more of the human side of Inmortan Joe (why is InmortaNNNN and not inmortal, the fuck? ). Hearing your analysis on his "evil ways" was pretty interesting. He is just doing what humans in a desperate situation would do. Go for the win. He manages to gain a cult of followers, and he just wants a healthy son to be the heir to his domain. That's... Pretty dramatic. A sicken warlord that had two deformed children and has a last chance of having that one good son to look over the land when he parts away...
That scene till the end, where Joe's legion is just chilling in a hill, and he is somewhat praying. THE DEFORMED EVIL FAT WARLORD IS PRAYING! That's cool subtle character info. Sadly, he decayed into a expendable evil forced, killed brutally. Seriously, I want to know more about him.
"why is InmortaNNNN and not inmortal, the fuck?"
Same reason why they call them wierd fictional slurs: It's however many years in the future, language evolved and it's actually good world building. It's how kids today run around saying "fr fr no cap based cringe foodcel" but Miller doesn't explicitly explain these things out, he just thrusts the audience into the world he created. That's only the dialogue, the acutal set pieces and probs have so much more world building hidden in plain sight.
The Inmortann thing actually makes sense, with how far in the future the movie is and how the prospects of education are, uh, less than ideal to say the least (I doubt that any of these people have english classes on tuesdays or ever went to school at all) it comes across as a natural speech corruption that would happen in this particular scenario
@@knight_lautrec_of_carim yo this coment is bussin fr fr no cap on god
I maintain that warlords like Immortan Joe and Negan are the long-term good guys in any post apocalypse, and a story that bothered to address that would be the best post apocalyptic fiction to date. These people represent stability as well as brutality, and their organization is the best chance the world has of getting back to normal.
The story is complete bunk, but it looks nice, and lots of well-regarded films get by on looks and action sequences, so I think it's alright.
Lazy Poo just look at how well the governor was doing before Rick’s merry band of fucker-uppers came along to ruin everything
It's like these idiots forget that every civilization in human history was originally founded by warlords.
El Carlos they were never the ones to fuck everything up though. Quite the contrary in fact, they were always the guys managing to patch things up once they went to hell, or to fend off the bad things for the longest time.
Ace Ambling every EARLY civilizations, and not just by warlords either, but also people that had interests in writing fair laws, and making sure everyone got what they deserved.
I mean, the US weren’t founded by warlords, they were founded by soldiers, governors, writers, advocates, merchants.
The same goes for Australia (though it wasn’t as prestigious it wasn’t warlords either), and a lot of civilizations in fact. Not that warlords didn’t have a role to play in any of this, but it’s not their ability to wage wars that built their civilizations, it was their ability not to, by writing fair laws, creating efficient bureaucracies and taxation systems, etc.
Lazy Poo the best chance the world has of getting back to normal ? You’re telling me that Negan was a better chance at getting the world back to normal than people who actually tried and managed to recreate and rebuild societies based on the principles of the world they lost ?
You’re telling me the man that enforces disproportionate and tyrannical taxation through war is a better shot at recreating the US than people who trade for the goods they need in exchange of goods other needs, exchange intel, and try to have fair processes ?
Brutality ain’t a great way to create stable societies, because stable and orderly societies rely on the predictability of the governed and the government. If the government is tyrannical, chaos is bound to appear at some point. A society were dissent leads either to your death/torture, or that of your chief, can’t be, wasn’t, isn’t, and will never be more stable or orderly than a society where you can actually process these things peacefully.
You're like the American IHE or something.
+Matija Škrtić Is it because of the anti-Semitic jokes? That's what makes his videos more hilarious. Anti-PC people are the funniest and I'd hang out with them all day.
but a lot more of an insufferable shitlord trying too hard to "be edgy"
If one is "truly not a bigot" but finds bigoted jokes "funny", they're either not very-creative in the comedy dept. or trying way too hard
Except better because IHE has no actual good opinions beyond regurgitating what everyone hates about things.
american, and better. Also why is it when someone vocalizes their opinions very clearly concisely, and with reason everyone and their mom thinks they can find some flaw with it by "reasoning" (Stating their opinion and assuming everyone knows what they mean with no explanation other than "He/she sucks") it gets quite annoying, at least like 9 of the people in the comments has an i.q of 180, so at the very least at least nine of you could be technically smart enough to wing, which means every single one of you doesn't know how to reason. In which case STATE EVERYTHING YOU SAY AS SUBJECTIVE.
I'd like to see you rip apart furiosa again.
I love your satire and the jokes and small interjections that add personality. I personally just watch that movie as a stupid action film but I am completely dumbfounded why max isnt the protagonist in a movie named after him and all.
They do explain that the guy who used max as a blood bag was going to die anyways, for some sickly reason, and that having max was going to extend his lifespan for just a bit
I love this movie, but I agree with your criticisms. The film is absolute nonsense, but I didn't like it for the good story, or well rounded characters but rather for the bald guys jumping off cars unto other cars with spodey spears
Which is what makes it a bad movie, in our modern age a good way to tell if a movie is good is if people will watch it again in full or if they only watch the best clips on TH-cam.
@@FeHearts so with that means the bad movies with good scenes are good,right?
People defending this movie forget that it’s treated as an all time masterpiece that won over 7 Oscars, almost none of which it deserved to win
It's also funny how the movie is one big dysgenic event, where the best of those people (young, healthy males) get killed off, and the ones left behind are a bunch of, for the most part, feeble mutants 22:20, waiting to get conquered and slaughtered by the next passing roving post-apoc gang. How will they survive, if their fighting force just got crushed? What genetic stock is left behind?
Well, they get deformed either way, it seems to be a gamble to have a child in this world, they're either born big and dumb, or smart and deformed. Besides, you don't need much males to recreate a population, but you need lots of young fertile women. And they decided to have some feminist utopia, so good luck with that.
But you still need somewhat healthy, fertile men too. And with the vast majority of the military age men being killed, they will still be forced to wait for another 17-18 years for a new generation of soldiers to grow up. That is enough time for a rivaling warband to slaughter the old, feeble, and women.
The War Boys are not healthy. They're all time-bombs.
Ironclad granted their entire military force has leukemia and shit
Um yeah I had the same complaints about Max not being the main hero of the movie. As you I also have not seen any other previous Mad Max movies. Turns out Max being a bystander is a staple of the series.
Eryk Rejner The idea is he's what we the audience see the story through and he gets sucked into the other people's story's
Holo Is Best Girl yeah but that doesn't make it good.
Van Dagylon Eh I like it so I can't really reply with anything
Max was the focal point of two and one. He literally drove the plot of both.
One? Sure. Two? Barely, if at all. He barely ever says a word in two.
Thanks E;R, I thought I was going crazy cause everyone simply worshiped FR while I couldn't see shit beyond "muh explosions"
The Merkel joke at 22:17 is fucking SAVAGE
The reason Warboi has Max as a "blood bag" is because there is adrenaline in his blood. By fusing his blood and Warbois blood, Warboi gets... more adrenaline? Something like that.
Or blood clots from incompatible blood groups?
It is pointed out (when he gets his back tattooed) that he is a universal donor.
Oh, ok.
A universal donor? That doesn't work this way. People with 0 (or O how it's called in America for some reason) can only universally donate BLOODCELLS, not the complete blood including the plasma! Their plasma contains antibodies for both A and B, which means if War Boy doesn't have 0 too it will absolutely kill him.
Alias Anybody The antibody is only pertinent to the recipient, while the antigen is pertinent to the donor. A type A individual has anti-B and can therefore receive type A blood which does not have the B antigen, and O blood because O has neither the A antigen nor the B antigen. Type B can receive from B and O. Type O can only receive from O because it has both anti A and B while type AB can receive from A, B, AB, and O because it does not have any antibodies. Important to remember if you are in the medical field.
In the prequel comic it was alluded that women did try to get into the Citadel for a better life. You had 3 chances to produce a child then you were kicked out if you couldn't. Furiosa was actually a bride at one point. Also she stopped one of the women from having an abortion and that caused a lot of people to piss themselves, because Furiousa is a "feminist" in a post apocalyptic world, not a person with diverse world views. Also it mentioned Joe was actually gay but wanted heirs.
That makes me not want to like the movie
@@haroldbalzac6336 then don't like it
@@sanakan4783 After some heavy meditation, I have decided not to like it. Thank you for your invaluable advice.
@@haroldbalzac6336 you are welcome
@@haroldbalzac6336 have you thought about ending it all
Actually, if I recall correctly, at least one of the wives wanted to return to Joe because she thought he treated her well.
fury road had a fucking story? guess i need to watch if for the 100th time to see
The iconic car was destroyed right at the start ? just like how the new Star Wars destroyed the old one in general and specifically killed off or disrespected Luke and Han Solo ? its almost as if there is a hidden meaning behind most of what we are presented as 'popular' media.
Or maybe it's because it's a running joke in the Mad Max films that the car hardly ever has any big role? It's barely in the first or third film, with it only appearing a lot in the second. But of course, you don't know what you're talking about.
Excellent review. :]
Gotta admit though, its the most entertaining and badass movie about child custody
"The film has great action, great set pieces, and literally nothing else." I would be lying if I said I wasn't totally ok with that.
very underrated channel great movie reviews!
While this film was good fun, I did hate how the movie was just a blatant progressive fantasy where an evil patriarchy is torn down by a bunch of righteous women... *eye roll*
you had me at the fish and bicycle reference. Subbed
Furiosa actually did plan the escape with them in the comics. But sure your point that the movie doesn't do a satisfying job at bridging this gap in the plot still stands, it's just that the comics really supplement it well. Also goes for the backstory on Max and Joe right before the movie starts.
A Furiosa movie just came out and bombed. ER please review it.
I'm gunna preface with the fact that I am a fan of Mad Max: Fury Road.
All I really wanna bring up is: I agree that the story was pretty lack luster, and you did a good job at making me realize how little Max actually accomplished in terms of it being a movie allegedly about him. However, the reason I enjoyed the movie so much, and as you mentioned you did as well, was the actual filming and cinematography within the film, along with the practical effects done throughout the film. Not only were the shots and the visual leading done with the shot placements really well done, but the world created by this was incredible. Throughout the movie the various effects and filter (as you mentioned in the "night" scenes) were all to create the world that was being displayed via keeping the overall image of sand, heat, and emptiness consistent. Granted you mentioned it was painfully obviously it was day (which it was pretty obvious), it's used to give the audience the feeling that it's still the same overwhelmingly hot, barren (mostly) desert wasteland, even at night. I personally feel that this filming prowess as well as the world building are the real reasons behind making this movie, and like I said previously, I am a fan due to this. Everything I just said may be wrong, but it's what I believe (mainly cus it's soooo f*cking cool to watch). I'm not necessarily defending the movies actual story by any means, but I must say that the film itself is objectively from a technical perspective, a masterpiece. (Again, I may wrong)
P.S. You should check out Vsauce3's video about surviving the apocalypse, it was pretty cool, and even talked about that night filter thing, not saying it's a counter argument, just thought it'd be interesting to check out in regards to this.
Also, the above reason (the rant part) is why I enjoy the film Baby Driver so much. And if you trash Baby Driver, please keep it to the story and characters (which aren't too good, so you'll have lots of ammunition) and not the cinematography or film techniques, please, it'll hit too close to home.
"He's a crazy shmeg who eats schlenguh!!" What's up with you man, have you never heard this well known and popular phrase before?
Fictional characters, fictional slang. It's called worldbuilding
it's exacly what i'd expect Australian post apocalyptic insults to sound like
Could be the word for snakes adopted from a nordic language. In norwegian it is written "slanger". I think it's basically the same for swedish and danish too.
Smeg = Aussie slang for sm3gma
Schlanga = Aussie slang for p3n*s
This review has aged like fine wine.
Great video E;R. Brilliant script, great jokes, and visuals that match watch you're saying. #BestofTH-cam
Mad max movies rarely star max, he's more of a ghost that does things.
Yeah but the other ones were good
lol What?
The three previous Mad Max films all star Max. What are you talking about?