Agreed, gamers biggest issue nowadays seems to be commitment, if we play long term and do some small planning it shouldn't be that bad. Unless you plan on having more than you should at that point that is, that's where the wallet shows its funny little face.
Though thing is since you only know the mainstats many of the echoes you get have potential which you'll have to check for, check enough of them and boom your resources are gone, so the echoes are still more of a problem resource wise
Thats called grinding and patience... Every one wants everything in one go thats not gonna happen.. This makes game boring and nothing to do... So its good whats it is... Perfect..
I just find the solution is to stick to one team and pace yourself. Once that team is built, then build the next team. I decided early I would just main Jiyan, Mortefi and Baizhi. At UL 62, that team now is all at level 90, all of them have a level 90 weapon, all of them have their echoes at +25, and they're 5* echoes of the right sets (stats are decent). All of them have talents at level 8/9 at least, with those extra nodes lit up too. Jiyan is actually all level 10 talents (he's maxed). Once they're all built, which is only like 1-2 weeks away now (come on, Geocochelone, give me more than 3 drops!), I'm going to build one character at a time starting with Verina. It really isn't that hard, it's not even that big a time-commitment each day. It's just a lot of days, weeks, months to get there. Yes, we're starved if you want to max out everyone you have; but if you focus on one team, we've got plenty to go around.
I've learnt that at UL60++, the bare minimum for a character that you're building is Level 70, and key talents at 6. That ensures survivability while you farm for the remainder. You really don't need to get EVERYONE to 90 right away. Just prioritise your main DPS and then move to everyone else. It'll be challenging, but you can still take on mobs, bosses and dungeons while still having fun.
I've been playing since the games released and I was able to upgrade 4 characters to 90 when I reached UL 60 I got a lot of resources from that double yield events and if I had a few resources lacking I can just go and farm it quickly since getting UL 60 get you not a lot but enough to upgrade anyone
We get more stamina in PGR and PGR is not open world game. WuWa is inspired by another open world game and in Genshin you can grind crystals and level up your weapon, it helps a lot.
When are content creators gonna stop milking this misinformation. The only serious problem I see is a person pulling every single limited 5 star released so far, their signature weapons and a bunch of 4 star supports ad wanting to build them all in the early and mid game. And then making a surprised pikachu face when they run out of resources lol. Wuwa is much more generous in its resource grind than other gachas in its genre and that includes the echo system. Everyone that keeps playing will eventually plateu and stabilise with their resource grind and that will happen much much earlier than in similar games. If kuro game grind is too much for you then maybe gachas arent for u cause it doesnt get much better than kuro gachas
Saying the echo system is generous in this game just shows you're a fanboy who gapes their ass for kuro and you should be ignored if someone wants an actual discussion with someone neutral.
@craigtrish2011 oof Sounds like I hit a nerve there buddy 😂. I simply said its MORE generous than hoyos system. If saying that triggers u that much ure the one with a hoyo chilling problem who isnt able to discuss rationally 😆
@@craigtrish2011 trust me i'll have to type 100 reasons as to why echoes system is far better than hoyo artifacts system but you still won't get it and its difficult to explain with comments so i'll leave you with this ( whatever i'm saying i have proof )since the launch i have every single limited 5 character as f2p except yinlin this fact alone makes kuro worthy enough to have their ass licked if you can lick hoyo's ass but i won't talk about that i have leveled all of them up and build them and didn't have that much of a problem even though we are supposed to have this problem early game i have build every single character i got and currently waiting for event that provide double echoes mat drop to build xiangli yao i only ran out of mats 2 3 times for 2 3 days which isn't that much of a problem as to why i didn't have this problem i have comented already before if you want to learn i can paste that comment here you'll only run out of resources if you are building like every character that just isn't possible
I'm with you. Tacit fields are the one thing I don't farm. I'm farming bosses, credits, XP for weapons and characters, enemies, talent domains, all the time. The sealed tubes come with time.
You lost me on resource management on tacet fields. Any one who is wise on resource management on this game wouldn't touch that unless there's a 2x drops. Yeah, forte skill tree isn't that much of an upgrade but it's a permanent upgrade, that's why it's much more valuable than farming tacet fields. And what do you know in this game you can play any character with trash substat as long as their echoes are level 25 for the main stats.
I agree that tacit fields are a black hole for resources unless there are doble drops. It's why I avoid them. You get an echo every day for finishing the activity points. We're on like day 90 or so of the game, so you can easily have like 40-50, maybe even 60-70 5* echoes in your inventory right now.
Yeah if something is bad to farm, if something is bad to grind and level, don't farm it, don't grind it, don't level it. Is he expecting Kuro to hold his hand and always reward him no matter what choice he makes?
Just hit UL 60 yesterday as FTP who started the game after Yinlin banner. The resources is always short but as long as you consistently play everyday 45min-1 hour to farm materials + echoes( 1 route farming echoes) for your 3 main dps, it will slowly improve to do late game contents. Only pulled Jinshi + weapons and I’m poor af. I’m pretty satisfied with my current stage in the game now but pulling a new char is pain( saving for shore keeper now). Still couldn’t beat hazard zone 3star consistently due to skill issues + on phone but it’s not the end of the world 😂. Enjoy the echoes hunt every day and little improvement is why I keep playing now. Once there is no improvement left cause then the excitement will be gone and eventually not playing everyday then quit as any other games. So enjoy as much as you can now 😅.
@@Gnidelyep which is why you go all out on the double material events on certain mats u want. Which is why if you are building character one at a time and wisely, you should be good.
@@GnidelThe only time gated materials are the weekly. Which is only 180 energy a week. There is no reason focusing on grinding credits stops you from doing your weekly.
@4hmwett yah bro, it comes down to priority. But I do get it why some people, especially newbies will get curious and max all characters As I also did that when I'm new to genshin
That's not even possible yet due to weekly bosses. I do have about that many characters at max level and that many max weapons though, with 2 characters truly maxed out.
It feels on par with the other big gachas, especially near release. You just have to be very picky with your team building, not everyone needs to be max lvl or have max lvl weapons, just your main dps.
Anygame that have farm like Relic in HSR/Disc in ZZZ/Echo in WuWa is a big mid game trap.... keep normal substats until you are max i didnt regret farming shells & Dennys until i actually just ran out of them few days ago ...
Unique shops like the one in Tiger Maw should get restock per patch or something so we can get weapon upgrade mats in exhange for ore, instead of waveplates.
Nah, that's basically all gacha problem in the beginning of the games lol. I played PGR and Arknights and both of them also have this problem in the beginning. The trick is to know how to manage your resource to complete the endgame first. Main DPS is priority. I already do TOA 30/30 with my current team without maximizing all of them. I built Jinhsi, Calcharo, and Havoc Rover up to level 90. I only increase important skill to level 10 while the not important to level 5 (like Basic attack for Jinhsi). My Sub DPS, Sanhua and Yinlin stays at level 70 for right now with their skills level at level 5. My support, Baizhi and Verina is at level 40 only with inherent skills upgraded. Right now, I can basically build every character whatever I want since or I can just save my resources for future character.
Tbf, the problem isn’t really unique to just WuWa. I’m at IK50 in ZZZ and it’s just as bad. The amount of resources to take a unit from 50-60 is crazy. Genshin also had this issue too. The only time I didn’t have a massive problem at end game was with HSR and this is with buying BP in every game.
idk i see finished builds of wuwa characters everyday on reddit. i myself am a low spender in both genshin and wuwa and my jinhsi build is completely done, echoes included, while my navia build, whose artifacts ive been farming for 8 months, are still not done. I think it's actually easier to build characters in this game than in other games, especially if you're including artifacts/echoes in the definition of what you consider complete. i dont expect to raise characters the second i get them though, i expect it to take a few weeks just to raise level, skills, and weapon.
In this game i am strugle with shell credits and echo exp. I pull changli and i leveled up to 90 but i am not touch yet to her skill tree and echoes. I have solvent but spending 10 gives me 800k credit, it just me but solvent itself much more valuable than 800k. In genshin wooden boxes gives 5-10k, rock piles gives 10-15-20k in open world iirc, i farm them using interactive map and i get couple mil mora. In this game credits in open world not worth even spending energy and pushing button for interacting them. I am not a math guy but if someone calculate i will be happy how many solvent need for shell credits and how many for raising character and skill tree etc. Sources vaporize without understanding where they go😊. Sorry for my poor English. Ps: In genshin my sigil shop moras still intact, i start with 3.8 and i newer get broke, one time i get so close because i decide crown my couple character in very short time. And i farm ley lines maybe 1 or 2 ley line event and that is limited daily attemt.
You can farm the bosses to get credits,xp, along with echo's. Try 2-3 days of shell credits,3 weekly boss then material drop/ level up material. After you get around 5 million Shell credits then work on the getting echo xp since player xp is easy to get along with echo xp. I hope this helps the grind GL
leveling up echoes is not bad its the other way its quite good tbh it depends on how you lvl them up leveling up from 20 to 25 takes same amount of tubes required to lvl up to 20 from 1 which means we can reveal 4 sub stats quite cheap so level up only those echoes that are guarenteed upgrade like if they already have double crit etc till lvl 20 if you just lvl up echoes to just 5 or 10 which only takes 1 - 3 golden tubes respectively you can reveal those 2 substace if it rolls bad you can feed them and stop working on it so you can do this for only 1 run only 60 wave plates just try to get 1st or 2nd substat important ones like crit or ER as echoes farming is not capped you can farm as much as you want them so you can experiment and waste some of them it doesn't matter if you manage your resources this way you will have less problem with tubes instead you'll have to farm more echoes this technique help you minimize the resources dry out you'll still face it sometimes but tbh thats just every gacha game atleast in wuwa it is easy to get 1 costs and 4 costs the problem are only 3 costs which isn't that much of a problem compared to other games
Give it until the anniversary and you'd have enough to max out every character 10 times over. This issue also happened to me and everyone who played hsr and gi at their release
Chixia main here. My main is still at level 70 with level 1 talents (5* standard pistols though) and I can clear all content with her aside from ToA. I've been able to level other characters to 70 whenever I want to try using them and it hasn't been a problem. I honestly have more resources than I feel like I need. I'll slowly level characters and talents as I go, but that's not why I'm playing the game; it's just a side goal while doing other things.
Resource management for gacha noobs, Dont max level every unit u lay eyes on, only max ur dps & half raise ur supports. Resources in every gacha r finite. Next when ur doing echos, only lvl them to 10 so u can see if u get a dead stat in 1st 2 rolls, if dead stat then scrap it. Since u can farm echos limitless u need use the exp wisely. Every gacha game bottlenecks resources to make players log in every day 4 player retention, its up to the player to use resources wisely.
^ this. The +10 echo advice is really good too, but I would add that if you have no other echoes of the desired mainstat to fodder your old piece into, then you sould NOT scrap it even if it has bad substats. I personally also think you can choose to level to +15 to get some extra leeway when picking substats - a 3/5 good substats echo is good enough.
I think if you are running into sealed tube issues you gotta be more picky when rolling echoes. Like for me, since I am flooded with 1 cost echoes, if the first stat roll isn't crit/crit DMG, I don't roll, If I don't get double crit in 2 more rolls and the first crit stat is low, I dump the echo too, I go to 4 rolls if the first crit roll was good
How about this for a video idea: Horizontal Investment (sticking to one team) vs Vertical Investment (Levelling multiple team), which offers good return on the long run?
just have a daily or weekly chedule of when you'll farm different mats. and, we know when characters are going to come out- you can't level up all characters to 90, but speaking about how tacet fields are inefficient is 100% valid; it's hell. i have enough credits, materials for talents, and a good echo set for xiangli yao because i knew he was coming, so i began prefarming. discipline when it comes to leveling characters in this game is mandatory, at least for now until theg fix these issues.
I think overall resources are fine in the game except for echoes. Not being able to use lvl 1 echoes to upgrade other echoes is weird. Boss mats, talent mats etc are ok being scarce imo since there isn’t rng involved. But echoes upgrading to lvl 25 is so expensive. I understand ppl that say that having it expensive makes you more cautious. But since rng is involved with your echoes I don’t think it should be this much. I just had Jinhsi built with her sig and rn she’s on 68/248 which isn’t that great but since I don’t want to bother wasting more resources I’m focusing on other characters now.
Absolutly accurate things about the game! I'm logging in every day and not geting every character (I didn't pull for Jinshi and Zhezhi). And I'm spending a little bit on waveplates, but I feel like it's a stragle to build characters and weapons. Taced Fields are expencive and not worth it without a double drop event. I can't build properly my current characters and weapons becouse it's a cat-and-mouse game all the time. Ok farming character exp, but not enough shell credit, ok farming next time shell credit, ok next day .... I know it's like that but I never felt this in Genshin. Atleast the mora and the exp things was ok to farm for.
I don't want anyone to tell anyone what to do. Your account, your business. That being said...how I approached my account monthly card buyer, I skip all of the 5 star units from 1.0 and got changli s0 and one signature weapon. Level up 6 characters echos and to +25 And tune them all, don't even bother to reroll anytime soon and focus on getting more ascension materials to upgrade talents and weapons. No I am not a meta slave. And yes when I do get lots more resources I will be re rolling for substats. This is literally genshin all over where people said they ran out of mora. Never had that issue and I only bought battle pass twice in my 3 years of genshin
it's been 4 months and i still can't build Chixia or Danjin cause all my resources going for every new Character each month. it's like you only got enough resources to only build 1 character per month once i'm finish with one another banner dropped and i have to move on to those new one
Coincidentally, I sent in feedback last week that I don't think I'll continue playing the game because the lack of resources is one of the major pain points of the game and that I feel my time and money is spent elsewhere
Kuro: We've given free characters and lots of astrites, isn't it enuf? WTF PLAYERS WANT THIS TIME! If I can 30 star ToA with LvL 40 subbing, having 2 Mdps LvL 80 built, why can't you people?
Im UL 54 I manage to 30/30 toa, Still build remaining missing talents for main dps. I did not touch tace fields only when it was event manage to get decent echoes for my moonlit set. After event ended on tacet field, i focused on mats to level talents. I dont run out of shell credits i always have 300-500k
f2p. UL 62. 10 chars at lv 81. Four 5 star weapons at max level... 2electro sets, 2 fusions sets, 3 heal sets, 2 moonlit sets, 1 havoc and 1 aero I guess there is a problem only if you pull all chars, weapons. else in few months I will wonder what to spend my WP on
I have 61 waveplate box things I raised 4 characters, but I just don't have time to farm tecet fields I hope they can make it auto farm if you have already beaten it once
Running out of resouces i never ran out of resources because i dont pre farm for characters i wait till i get them in the morning then i spend a few hours leveling them up the day i get them so i dont waste my time or resouces on a character i dont have
Na man i never farm tacet fields unless they are x2 and have a ton of tuners and sealed tubes, just farm Echoes and level them up to 5 don't wasted xp to level them up more than that, and them raise the ones with crit and the lvl 10s that have double crit
It only took me like 2 months to get the full 30 points in tower in wuwa. It took me 4 months to get a full 36 in moc on hsr. I don't see the problem. If you're rerolling for max rolls before you got to 90 with all level 10 skills, then the problem lies in you.
its amazing how you literally have a whole month to gear up for your new character and people still complaining how its not enough. hell a new character came out and people were able to gear them up within 24 hours. and that is not even take into account that you are not going to get a new cahracter every patch, because not everyone is going to pull for every character. why do people want the ability to gear every cahractger up within weeks? what are all those extra resource going to do for them? letting them sit in the bag for all eternity?
Every gacha game is like this, it's a resource management game after all, you gotta choose one over the other, can't have everything, the first months are the roughest ones, this will stop being a problem after the majority of people have different teams built already
Level 90 will boost your overall damage by a lot, especially in tower of adversity and holograms. I would go to level 90 for your main damage dealers, and level 80 for your sub dps. You can leave your healers at around level 70, but you will eventually want to raise them.
not really a prob if ur wise enough to build 1 team at a time. sure its resource starvation if u will build all characters at same time but it ain't gonna work on gacha games especially for ealy to mid players. learn to prioritize and u will be fine
All gacha games possess an awful way to gear your characters its a trend at this point but yeah the tacet fields are insanely bad if not terrible but it is what it is. I prefere to lvl echoes to 20 cuz 20 to 25 is a lot of tubes and I never get double crit anyways
I belong to the privileged 3.9% group jajaja Yeah it feels you're falling behind, but when they release rerun banners we can get some more time to keep up. If they change something on Tacet Fields I hope to improve the rewards, not to lower the waveplate consumption, these are a pain to farm.
It really isn't. This is literally the first time anyone has had to farm for currency and it's been what? 3 months? Farming for currency is obviously a normal thing in gachas. Everyone has been clowning on Simulation challenge for 3 months because you never needed to do it, but now that you do, suddenly it's a problem?
If you dont know how to manage your resources well its a user mistake 😅 I am amaze doing tacet fields when theres no event for it? Really? Always focus on main dps first thats all. Get there talents the mportant ones based on their kit and weapon.
Not really a problem. Every gacha game has bottlenecks. This will not be an issue in a few months for launch players. Also we're only 3 months in you can't seriously be asking for new modes already.
its not a problem yall reaching lmao just buy battle pass and cope. i dont need any resources except for farming skills and soon i will not have characters to upgrade except for one character at once
i literally have 5 characters to 90 5 weapons to 90 5 characters skills maxxed out to 10 except for intros yea right and echo set 25+ for all characters i use so glacio 2 x fusion electro moonlit rejuv
As I said on reddit always the cc's taking things out of proportions. Problems with resources? No we don't have any problems with resources. This is the way it always goes in every gacha game. Seems to me you are only here complaining for things that every other single cc is crying about since week 1, You won't be able to have 10 full characters build at this point nor you need to have those 10 characters build at this point. If you knew how a gacha game works you would be ashamed of making this video. You know how long it takes to build 1 character full build with the best stats? it could take you months just for one character. It's STUPID and beyond trying to do what every cc wants to do and cries about. I have not a single issue with resources 'cause I know how building characters works.
So A Whale Telling me he don't have money to buy resoucess? Why did you buy the Characters? there is a pletnly of youtube creators that have cleared tower ftp ! And you are here making fuss ! FO !
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It's a problem for now. Won't be in the future for those who keep playing.
as it always is
Well said. In Genshin I was resource starved for like 6 months... then you sort of hit AR 50, WT 7/8 and you plateau.
Agreed, gamers biggest issue nowadays seems to be commitment, if we play long term and do some small planning it shouldn't be that bad. Unless you plan on having more than you should at that point that is, that's where the wallet shows its funny little face.
Though thing is since you only know the mainstats many of the echoes you get have potential which you'll have to check for, check enough of them and boom your resources are gone, so the echoes are still more of a problem resource wise
@@ayush_k- echos I can agree are a pain in the ass, Tuners feel like the worst thing about the game to me.
Thats called grinding and patience... Every one wants everything in one go thats not gonna happen.. This makes game boring and nothing to do... So its good whats it is... Perfect..
I just find the solution is to stick to one team and pace yourself. Once that team is built, then build the next team.
I decided early I would just main Jiyan, Mortefi and Baizhi. At UL 62, that team now is all at level 90, all of them have a level 90 weapon, all of them have their echoes at +25, and they're 5* echoes of the right sets (stats are decent). All of them have talents at level 8/9 at least, with those extra nodes lit up too. Jiyan is actually all level 10 talents (he's maxed).
Once they're all built, which is only like 1-2 weeks away now (come on, Geocochelone, give me more than 3 drops!), I'm going to build one character at a time starting with Verina. It really isn't that hard, it's not even that big a time-commitment each day. It's just a lot of days, weeks, months to get there. Yes, we're starved if you want to max out everyone you have; but if you focus on one team, we've got plenty to go around.
I'm basically bone dry on all development materials. Not to mention the 47k shell credits I have. Pain and suffering
I've learnt that at UL60++, the bare minimum for a character that you're building is Level 70, and key talents at 6. That ensures survivability while you farm for the remainder. You really don't need to get EVERYONE to 90 right away. Just prioritise your main DPS and then move to everyone else. It'll be challenging, but you can still take on mobs, bosses and dungeons while still having fun.
I've been playing since the games released and I was able to upgrade 4 characters to 90 when I reached UL 60
I got a lot of resources from that double yield events and if I had a few resources lacking I can just go and farm it quickly since getting UL 60 get you not a lot but enough to upgrade anyone
Nah, kuro probably implemented the same grinding system as pgr. If you play PGR, you'll know it
Can you explain for us mortals that don't play PGR?
We get more stamina in PGR and PGR is not open world game. WuWa is inspired by another open world game and in Genshin you can grind crystals and level up your weapon, it helps a lot.
if you play PGR, GI, HSR and ZZZ you would know how it works. But suddenly everyone has an issue with resources in WUWA.
When are content creators gonna stop milking this misinformation. The only serious problem I see is a person pulling every single limited 5 star released so far, their signature weapons and a bunch of 4 star supports ad wanting to build them all in the early and mid game. And then making a surprised pikachu face when they run out of resources lol.
Wuwa is much more generous in its resource grind than other gachas in its genre and that includes the echo system. Everyone that keeps playing will eventually plateu and stabilise with their resource grind and that will happen much much earlier than in similar games. If kuro game grind is too much for you then maybe gachas arent for u cause it doesnt get much better than kuro gachas
Saying the echo system is generous in this game just shows you're a fanboy who gapes their ass for kuro and you should be ignored if someone wants an actual discussion with someone neutral.
@craigtrish2011 oof Sounds like I hit a nerve there buddy 😂. I simply said its MORE generous than hoyos system. If saying that triggers u that much ure the one with a hoyo chilling problem who isnt able to discuss rationally 😆
@@craigtrish2011 trust me i'll have to type 100 reasons as to why echoes system is far better than hoyo artifacts system but you still won't get it and its difficult to explain with comments so i'll leave you with this
( whatever i'm saying i have proof )since the launch i have every single limited 5 character as f2p except yinlin this fact alone makes kuro worthy enough to have their ass licked if you can lick hoyo's ass but i won't talk about that i have leveled all of them up and build them and didn't have that much of a problem even though we are supposed to have this problem early game i have build every single character i got and currently waiting for event that provide double echoes mat drop to build xiangli yao i only ran out of mats 2 3 times for 2 3 days which isn't that much of a problem as to why i didn't have this problem i have comented already before if you want to learn i can paste that comment here
you'll only run out of resources if you are building like every character that just isn't possible
Baka -- stop farming tacet fields. Farm bosses as they drop echo xp and other items. Also farm crystals in winter area and craft echo xp.
Wait, how much echo XP ?
@@lafeechloe6998 not much but it can help long term
@@lafeechloe6998 Enogh for free to play to slowly add up.
Also as bonus you end up with weapon and character xp mats also on the way.
@@lafeechloe6998 i believe it was 2k echo xp per boss in the early game not sure how much it is now. Works in coop too.
I'm with you. Tacit fields are the one thing I don't farm. I'm farming bosses, credits, XP for weapons and characters, enemies, talent domains, all the time. The sealed tubes come with time.
You lost me on resource management on tacet fields. Any one who is wise on resource management on this game wouldn't touch that unless there's a 2x drops. Yeah, forte skill tree isn't that much of an upgrade but it's a permanent upgrade, that's why it's much more valuable than farming tacet fields. And what do you know in this game you can play any character with trash substat as long as their echoes are level 25 for the main stats.
I agree that tacit fields are a black hole for resources unless there are doble drops.
It's why I avoid them. You get an echo every day for finishing the activity points. We're on like day 90 or so of the game, so you can easily have like 40-50, maybe even 60-70 5* echoes in your inventory right now.
yep
Yeah if something is bad to farm, if something is bad to grind and level, don't farm it, don't grind it, don't level it. Is he expecting Kuro to hold his hand and always reward him no matter what choice he makes?
@@John_III have way more than that probably over 1000 echo's.
I know people over 5K echo's farmed.
@@hungerxhunger2548 Darn... that's a lot :)
Just hit UL 60 yesterday as FTP who started the game after Yinlin banner. The resources is always short but as long as you consistently play everyday 45min-1 hour to farm materials + echoes( 1 route farming echoes) for your 3 main dps, it will slowly improve to do late game contents. Only pulled Jinshi + weapons and I’m poor af. I’m pretty satisfied with my current stage in the game now but pulling a new char is pain( saving for shore keeper now). Still couldn’t beat hazard zone 3star consistently due to skill issues + on phone but it’s not the end of the world 😂. Enjoy the echoes hunt every day and little improvement is why I keep playing now. Once there is no improvement left cause then the excitement will be gone and eventually not playing everyday then quit as any other games. So enjoy as much as you can now 😅.
Everyone cries so much, you know there's a domain you can get coins from right? 😐
But then you won't get other timegated materials.
@@Gnidelyep which is why you go all out on the double material events on certain mats u want. Which is why if you are building character one at a time and wisely, you should be good.
@@kaionyoki3670bro lol I hit the coin domain everytime it's the double event you'll never have coin problems
80k coins aren't even worth the waveplates, like those vanish with 1 talent upgrade or isn't even enough to level up higher level characters
@@GnidelThe only time gated materials are the weekly. Which is only 180 energy a week. There is no reason focusing on grinding credits stops you from doing your weekly.
Ive maxed 6 characters with no problem.
same and im a f2p
@4hmwett yah bro, it comes down to priority.
But I do get it why some people, especially newbies will get curious and max all characters
As I also did that when I'm new to genshin
That's not even possible yet due to weekly bosses. I do have about that many characters at max level and that many max weapons though, with 2 characters truly maxed out.
It feels on par with the other big gachas, especially near release.
You just have to be very picky with your team building, not everyone needs to be max lvl or have max lvl weapons, just your main dps.
Anygame that have farm like Relic in HSR/Disc in ZZZ/Echo in WuWa is a big mid game trap.... keep normal substats until you are max i didnt regret farming shells & Dennys until i actually just ran out of them few days ago ...
My brother in christ, you expect to be able 90 everyone day 1, while leveling other units also???
Prioritize bruh
fr I got 5 lvl 90 chars rn with lvl 8 talents because I never touched tacet fields unless 2x even.
@@huejanus1333 i never do tacet outside of events and have echo sets for everyone
I came here for the wuwa video, stayed to cry over the NieR Automata background music :')
This isn't a problem. The grind is part of the fun, and makes it easy to save. I haven't pulled anyvlimited characters yet. (Saving for Camellya.)
Unique shops like the one in Tiger Maw should get restock per patch or something so we can get weapon upgrade mats in exhange for ore, instead of waveplates.
lvl40-60 drops on lvl up materials are pretty much the same which was my biggest problem
Is this your first time?
Nah, that's basically all gacha problem in the beginning of the games lol. I played PGR and Arknights and both of them also have this problem in the beginning.
The trick is to know how to manage your resource to complete the endgame first. Main DPS is priority. I already do TOA 30/30 with my current team without maximizing all of them.
I built Jinhsi, Calcharo, and Havoc Rover up to level 90. I only increase important skill to level 10 while the not important to level 5 (like Basic attack for Jinhsi).
My Sub DPS, Sanhua and Yinlin stays at level 70 for right now with their skills level at level 5.
My support, Baizhi and Verina is at level 40 only with inherent skills upgraded.
Right now, I can basically build every character whatever I want since or I can just save my resources for future character.
Tbf, the problem isn’t really unique to just WuWa. I’m at IK50 in ZZZ and it’s just as bad. The amount of resources to take a unit from 50-60 is crazy. Genshin also had this issue too. The only time I didn’t have a massive problem at end game was with HSR and this is with buying BP in every game.
idk i see finished builds of wuwa characters everyday on reddit. i myself am a low spender in both genshin and wuwa and my jinhsi build is completely done, echoes included, while my navia build, whose artifacts ive been farming for 8 months, are still not done. I think it's actually easier to build characters in this game than in other games, especially if you're including artifacts/echoes in the definition of what you consider complete. i dont expect to raise characters the second i get them though, i expect it to take a few weeks just to raise level, skills, and weapon.
In this game i am strugle with shell credits and echo exp. I pull changli and i leveled up to 90 but i am not touch yet to her skill tree and echoes. I have solvent but spending 10 gives me 800k credit, it just me but solvent itself much more valuable than 800k. In genshin wooden boxes gives 5-10k, rock piles gives 10-15-20k in open world iirc, i farm them using interactive map and i get couple mil mora. In this game credits in open world not worth even spending energy and pushing button for interacting them. I am not a math guy but if someone calculate i will be happy how many solvent need for shell credits and how many for raising character and skill tree etc. Sources vaporize without understanding where they go😊. Sorry for my poor English.
Ps: In genshin my sigil shop moras still intact, i start with 3.8 and i newer get broke, one time i get so close because i decide crown my couple character in very short time. And i farm ley lines maybe 1 or 2 ley line event and that is limited daily attemt.
You can farm the bosses to get credits,xp, along with echo's.
Try 2-3 days of shell credits,3 weekly boss then material drop/ level up material.
After you get around 5 million Shell credits then work on the getting echo xp since player xp is easy to get along with echo xp.
I hope this helps the grind GL
Thanks😊, i will try your way. I am ok with spending waveplates on credits but i cannot like the idea spending solvent for them. Thank you so much.
leveling up echoes is not bad its the other way its quite good tbh it depends on how you lvl them up
leveling up from 20 to 25 takes same amount of tubes required to lvl up to 20 from 1 which means we can reveal 4 sub stats quite cheap so level up only those echoes that are guarenteed upgrade like if they already have double crit etc till lvl 20
if you just lvl up echoes to just 5 or 10 which only takes 1 - 3 golden tubes respectively you can reveal those 2 substace if it rolls bad you can feed them and stop working on it so you can do this for only 1 run only 60 wave plates just try to get 1st or 2nd substat important ones like crit or ER
as echoes farming is not capped you can farm as much as you want them so you can experiment and waste some of them it doesn't matter
if you manage your resources this way you will have less problem with tubes instead you'll have to farm more echoes
this technique help you minimize the resources dry out you'll still face it sometimes but tbh thats just every gacha game atleast in wuwa it is easy to get 1 costs and 4 costs the problem are only 3 costs which isn't that much of a problem compared to other games
Give it until the anniversary and you'd have enough to max out every character 10 times over. This issue also happened to me and everyone who played hsr and gi at their release
Chixia main here. My main is still at level 70 with level 1 talents (5* standard pistols though) and I can clear all content with her aside from ToA. I've been able to level other characters to 70 whenever I want to try using them and it hasn't been a problem. I honestly have more resources than I feel like I need. I'll slowly level characters and talents as I go, but that's not why I'm playing the game; it's just a side goal while doing other things.
All content aside from ToA? You could clear all content besides the Tower with like a lv 50 Taoqi.
Fair. My point being that there isn't really a need to level characters at all.
think of it this way.. abundance of characters to built.
this is the exact reason why i'm not going to invest into Xangli Yao, i leveld my Calcharo and i really don't like my materials wasted
Resource management for gacha noobs,
Dont max level every unit u lay eyes on, only max ur dps & half raise ur supports.
Resources in every gacha r finite.
Next when ur doing echos, only lvl them to 10 so u can see if u get a dead stat in 1st 2 rolls, if dead stat then scrap it.
Since u can farm echos limitless u need use the exp wisely.
Every gacha game bottlenecks resources to make players log in every day 4 player retention, its up to the player to use resources wisely.
^ this.
The +10 echo advice is really good too, but I would add that if you have no other echoes of the desired mainstat to fodder your old piece into, then you sould NOT scrap it even if it has bad substats. I personally also think you can choose to level to +15 to get some extra leeway when picking substats - a 3/5 good substats echo is good enough.
I think if you are running into sealed tube issues you gotta be more picky when rolling echoes. Like for me, since I am flooded with 1 cost echoes, if the first stat roll isn't crit/crit DMG, I don't roll, If I don't get double crit in 2 more rolls and the first crit stat is low, I dump the echo too, I go to 4 rolls if the first crit roll was good
How about this for a video idea: Horizontal Investment (sticking to one team) vs Vertical Investment (Levelling multiple team), which offers good return on the long run?
It blows my mind when I see players with double crit on all their echos for their parties. It's so rare I see double crit roll.
just have a daily or weekly chedule of when you'll farm different mats. and, we know when characters are going to come out- you can't level up all characters to 90, but speaking about how tacet fields are inefficient is 100% valid; it's hell.
i have enough credits, materials for talents, and a good echo set for xiangli yao because i knew he was coming, so i began prefarming. discipline when it comes to leveling characters in this game is mandatory, at least for now until theg fix these issues.
I think overall resources are fine in the game except for echoes. Not being able to use lvl 1 echoes to upgrade other echoes is weird. Boss mats, talent mats etc are ok being scarce imo since there isn’t rng involved. But echoes upgrading to lvl 25 is so expensive. I understand ppl that say that having it expensive makes you more cautious. But since rng is involved with your echoes I don’t think it should be this much. I just had Jinhsi built with her sig and rn she’s on 68/248 which isn’t that great but since I don’t want to bother wasting more resources I’m focusing on other characters now.
Absolutly accurate things about the game! I'm logging in every day and not geting every character (I didn't pull for Jinshi and Zhezhi). And I'm spending a little bit on waveplates, but I feel like it's a stragle to build characters and weapons. Taced Fields are expencive and not worth it without a double drop event. I can't build properly my current characters and weapons becouse it's a cat-and-mouse game all the time. Ok farming character exp, but not enough shell credit, ok farming next time shell credit, ok next day .... I know it's like that but I never felt this in Genshin. Atleast the mora and the exp things was ok to farm for.
but seriously, the grind is still better than most gacha out there
I don't want anyone to tell anyone what to do. Your account, your business. That being said...how I approached my account monthly card buyer, I skip all of the 5 star units from 1.0 and got changli s0 and one signature weapon. Level up 6 characters echos and to +25
And tune them all, don't even bother to reroll anytime soon and focus on getting more ascension materials to upgrade talents and weapons. No I am not a meta slave.
And yes when I do get lots more resources I will be re rolling for substats.
This is literally genshin all over where people said they ran out of mora. Never had that issue and I only bought battle pass twice in my 3 years of genshin
Shell credit is a myth
That laugh at 3:39, i see what you did back to back related to 3:04
it's been 4 months and i still can't build Chixia or Danjin cause all my resources going for every new Character each month. it's like you only got enough resources to only build 1 character per month once i'm finish with one another banner dropped and i have to move on to those new one
Coincidentally, I sent in feedback last week that I don't think I'll continue playing the game because the lack of resources is one of the major pain points of the game and that I feel my time and money is spent elsewhere
Kuro: We've given free characters and lots of astrites, isn't it enuf? WTF PLAYERS WANT THIS TIME!
If I can 30 star ToA with LvL 40 subbing, having 2 Mdps LvL 80 built, why can't you people?
Im UL 54
I manage to 30/30 toa,
Still build remaining missing talents for main dps.
I did not touch tace fields only when it was event manage to get decent echoes for my moonlit set.
After event ended on tacet field, i focused on mats to level talents.
I dont run out of shell credits i always have 300-500k
f2p. UL 62. 10 chars at lv 81. Four 5 star weapons at max level...
2electro sets, 2 fusions sets, 3 heal sets, 2 moonlit sets, 1 havoc and 1 aero
I guess there is a problem only if you pull all chars, weapons. else in few months I will wonder what to spend my WP on
It's taking me a while to level up my mains, but that's ok. I only wish my echo luck was better...
I have 61 waveplate box things I raised 4 characters, but I just don't have time to farm tecet fields I hope they can make it auto farm if you have already beaten it once
Running out of resouces i never ran out of resources because i dont pre farm for characters i wait till i get them in the morning then i spend a few hours leveling them up the day i get them so i dont waste my time or resouces on a character i dont have
Na man i never farm tacet fields unless they are x2 and have a ton of tuners and sealed tubes, just farm Echoes and level them up to 5 don't wasted xp to level them up more than that, and them raise the ones with crit and the lvl 10s that have double crit
It only took me like 2 months to get the full 30 points in tower in wuwa. It took me 4 months to get a full 36 in moc on hsr. I don't see the problem. If you're rerolling for max rolls before you got to 90 with all level 10 skills, then the problem lies in you.
It more easily to build character and upgrade talent level than genshin impact. Level up Raiden and Scara to LV90 is to painfull for me.
The Lack of Free Limited Character in Genshin.
its amazing how you literally have a whole month to gear up for your new character and people still complaining how its not enough. hell a new character came out and people were able to gear them up within 24 hours. and that is not even take into account that you are not going to get a new cahracter every patch, because not everyone is going to pull for every character. why do people want the ability to gear every cahractger up within weeks? what are all those extra resource going to do for them? letting them sit in the bag for all eternity?
Your problem is doing tacet fields. In ul50+ you get more than 80k credits for waveplates
Every gacha game is like this, it's a resource management game after all, you gotta choose one over the other, can't have everything, the first months are the roughest ones, this will stop being a problem after the majority of people have different teams built already
Hey my Q is do i need to go to LV 90 or 81 is enough....??
Level 90 will boost your overall damage by a lot, especially in tower of adversity and holograms. I would go to level 90 for your main damage dealers, and level 80 for your sub dps. You can leave your healers at around level 70, but you will eventually want to raise them.
funny saw a leak that camella banner is in 2.0 omg if that's true
what's in 1.4-1.9 fillers?
not really a prob if ur wise enough to build 1 team at a time. sure its resource starvation if u will build all characters at same time but it ain't gonna work on gacha games especially for ealy to mid players. learn to prioritize and u will be fine
All gacha games possess an awful way to gear your characters its a trend at this point but yeah the tacet fields are insanely bad if not terrible but it is what it is. I prefere to lvl echoes to 20 cuz 20 to 25 is a lot of tubes and I never get double crit anyways
I belong to the privileged 3.9% group jajaja Yeah it feels you're falling behind, but when they release rerun banners we can get some more time to keep up. If they change something on Tacet Fields I hope to improve the rewards, not to lower the waveplate consumption, these are a pain to farm.
This is genshin all over again lol. Give it some time and you'll see no one talking about "lack of resource" in the future.
It really isn't. This is literally the first time anyone has had to farm for currency and it's been what? 3 months? Farming for currency is obviously a normal thing in gachas. Everyone has been clowning on Simulation challenge for 3 months because you never needed to do it, but now that you do, suddenly it's a problem?
Meh, as a long time Genshin player, I don't care. It happens.
If you dont know how to manage your resources well its a user mistake 😅
I am amaze doing tacet fields when theres no event for it? Really?
Always focus on main dps first thats all. Get there talents the mportant ones based on their kit and weapon.
Not really a problem. Every gacha game has bottlenecks. This will not be an issue in a few months for launch players.
Also we're only 3 months in you can't seriously be asking for new modes already.
bro im f2p and i have 10 well build characters lol
ALL games are timegated in one way or another...smh
its not a problem yall reaching lmao just buy battle pass and cope. i dont need any resources except for farming skills and soon i will not have characters to upgrade except for one character at once
i literally have 5 characters to 90 5 weapons to 90 5 characters skills maxxed out to 10 except for intros yea right and echo set 25+ for all characters i use so glacio 2 x fusion electro moonlit rejuv
do y'all know what "grinding" means? i thought it was basic knowledge for gacha gamers
As I said on reddit always the cc's taking things out of proportions. Problems with resources? No we don't have any problems with resources. This is the way it always goes in every gacha game. Seems to me you are only here complaining for things that every other single cc is crying about since week 1, You won't be able to have 10 full characters build at this point nor you need to have those 10 characters build at this point.
If you knew how a gacha game works you would be ashamed of making this video. You know how long it takes to build 1 character full build with the best stats? it could take you months just for one character. It's STUPID and beyond trying to do what every cc wants to do and cries about.
I have not a single issue with resources 'cause I know how building characters works.
So A Whale Telling me he don't have money to buy resoucess? Why did you buy the Characters?
there is a pletnly of youtube creators that have cleared tower ftp ! And you are here making fuss ! FO !
damn i dont even play this game no offense but why all gacha communities are so toxic.
Every gaming community is toxic to a certain degree.