We have a 66-2 and it gets around most of the problems of the 59-2 but is only 60cm longer. Table has its own storage and we use it outside the van, the bathroom is great. Two full size singles mean you don’t need to make up a double each night. The lounge is slightly bigger as a result. Importantly the door and step is lower. Just the fridge is the same.
Brilant account on a great wee van . Must agree ,,,,some of my best times were after downsizing from the big tag to a much more nippy size . Being able to park in car spaces overlooking the sea and as jenny said cooking tea ect a bonus. So enjoyed again bob x jenny .....thank you 👍👌
Hi from us in NZ. Great to watch your review of the Bailey 5.9 with us having nearly the same layout except our's is 6.4 mtrs long which means our lounge sofa's gives us 2 x 6" 1" single beds then we use our duvalays so no making up any bed! Also we have a narrow cupboard alongside of the fridge for the table and huge storage cupboards above the cab where we keep all our pillows linen etc. We also love driving our smaller MH in fact we share the driving, parking is never a problem.
Great warts and all video review. It hasn’t put me off the van, just made me weigh up the compromises with greater clarity. So thank you Bob and Jenny, appreciate you for sharing your experiences.
Great review, I have a manual fridge which admittedly I am used to but the difference is that I can’t forget to change it over because it beeps and flashes when the electric is switched off or if on battery when the engine is switched off. I agree the chopping board over the sink is not a great idea.
Yes, that one only beeps when hook up was disconnected, so we were always forgetting when we had been on battery or gas when going back on hook up at the site, to switch it back onto electric.
Great honest review Bob and Jenny and enjoyable to watch. Agree the reversing camera should be as standard as the seat belts! The mh has a lot of positives though...
I have decided no body else does such a comprehensive review of a MH than you two. I hope other manufacturers ask you to do further van in depth reviews so you could do unbaised comparison videos.
Thanks guys for a really good indepth review. Cos of this I will be buying and going full time soon. Retired single fella who needs to see his own country. I don't see it as some sort of adventure. It just seems a good/nice thing to do. Thanks again
Great review Bob & Jenny I must have admit you gave it a better review than I thought you would. Thought the beds would be your man problem when you are used to fixed beds. Fridge being manual is a big minus. Don’t like the big sunlight at front I have a large storage cupboard above the cab very handy for all the bedding. Table is same as mine must say I don’t use mine to much effort to get out so I carry a small camping table which stand behind my drivers seat. Beds would be better if slightly longer for singles and why don’t they make the back cushions slightly higher than you wouldn’t need the in fills. Think bailey technical team really need to scratch they head and sort these simple problems out. So all in all a better review than the other Baileys you had 👍
Bob never used table its to big, use a Sequoia table leg and radius top best solution we find easy to store . Fammia winder brackets supplied so fit up inside entrance door
Nice review. I see a video where the bed was made with no need for the in-fill, which made it a bit easier. Great vids Bob & Jenny. All the best, Paul.
Yes we tried that last night, we used one of the backrests upright, as a headrest. The trouble is it leaves a small gap between cushions, which the bedding escapes into.
Great review as usual Bob , re cupboards easy to fit shelves in making better space use, just took delivery in June a 762 - 2019 Advance model really good van only failing they fitted a very short spout tap in the kitchen sink water only hit edge of bowl splashing up on the work top and very difficult to fill a kettle bought a longer spout tap IE 240mm long had it fitted sadly BAILEY did not want to know the designer obviously does not visit shop floor to see the problems of his actions must have to comfy a seat in drawing office. Now in France van drives lovely ac very good especially in 38 degree heat. Re the catches on front skylight the 3 with the button locks the handles so you have to push the button to unlock i was fooled by that one too.
Really Love your reviews, they are always honest and quite funny. As someone who is looking to get a motorhome in the future they are very useful. Also getting your experienced opinions as to you would buy or down grade is really good. Thank you both for all your work
Nice one bob and Jenny the review of van van was spot on well thought of what work and what doesn't I do think a fix bed would b better as if one of u want to go to bed before other one where would the other one sit and watch TV and if in the day u want a nap for a couple of hours u got no bed to kip on but in all not a bad van cheers .kev
A good review of the 6 metre bailey. Nice motorhome. However if you were thinking of downsizing, have a look at a swift RIO 310. We bought ours in 2018 and love the layout.it has the really large tall fridge, lots of storage with a rear bathroom and separate shower. Oh the fridge is energy automatic selection.The bailey is the closest we have seen to the RIO, but we think the RIO has the edge.
Great review, very thorough. If you were downsizing would you go for the slightly longer 66-2 which would give you ability to have single beds and still be nimble enough to park easily.
Excellent as always, loved the tour overall and review, I was convinced we would buy fixed bed, has made us question. I wonder when listening to overall review whether Alliance 66-2 would be better? Wouldn't sort the fridge issue....😂 thanks Bob and Jenny.
Yes, 66-2 did interest us. Of course it's 0.8m longer and the kitchen isn't as big, but bathroom is better. We could use sofas as singles as they are 6ft 1in long.
Yes and I like the table solution, like you suggested, in a cupboard, 0.6m longer though I guess could make difference in some car parks etc. Always a compromise! Let's hope some other makes also provide some review vans for your reviews.
Just a tip try to shop around for ad blue , in garages I have seen some astronomical prices , as my boss has lorries and a pump in the yard he buys it for around 14ppl not the £2pl you can pay in some garages 😉
Bob here's a thought the reason that canopy is hitting the door, I think they have made the door much higher than the Alliance 66-2 which is a similar but longer version of the 59-2, the difference in door height could be 10"
@@BobEarnshawMoHo I live and learn, thanks for the information, I'm thinking of changing my Malibu van for Bailey 66-2 or Elddis 175 any views on my choices?
Very good review! I don't like the bed/ lounge arrangement at all. Give me a neat little 2 seat area in front with the swivel seats and bedroom at the rear. No rear door to the van, but the middle towards front door.
Bob n Jenny this one of the best ever reviews fair and honest! I'm new to motorhoming just in my 2nd year so still lots to learn. Initially I was very taken by Bailey & Swift Coachbuilts but after attending about six shows I found the Q/C on both makes was fairly poor and that was with show vans offered by both Bailey & Swift? In the end, between my partner and I we chose a Malibu 640LE and in the time we have owned Lucy, she has only has two very small warranty issuses although it took Carthago a long time to sort the small problems out. I like the idea of these 6 metre vans due to Englands parking spaces being frequent and costly! Have you reviewed the Auto Trail F60 or F62 or the smaller Auto Sleeper coachbuilts?
Hi bob and Jenny. Keep up the good work. Can I ask your advice,when you went on your Euro trip ,on the Eurotunnel,your van is over 3500kg. How did you book it ,thanks again
We booked it through the Caravan and Motorhome Club Site. Being over 3500kg is not an issue. Coaches go the same way, it's only goods freight that's different. Just select Campervan on the Eurotunnel website.
We love to follow your travel blogs even though we do not have a motorhome or caravan but we do have a Westie. So with that in mind we nick name your site ‘Poppy’s travel guide’.
The sofas are 4ft 5in long, so you could use the front seats as well to make singles. Just don't think it is very comfortable. I mention this in the earlier Making The Beds video. th-cam.com/video/Jj7GHmpKfk8/w-d-xo.html
Would be an ideal van for me if we could use the seating area as single beds. Hopefully Bailey will increase the length of a new van by 50cm. You failed to mention Bob your dislike of Bailey not supplying a rear view camera which incidentally I totally agree with you that it should be supplied as standard.
I did say there's no reversing camera, when I was walking round the back about 3 mins in. The Bailey Autograph range does have rear view camera, but it should be standard on all Motorhomes. Still don't think I would want to use the sofas as single beds, the front seats make the end of the bed uneven, unless you add yet another in fill cushion.
Yeh you get used to remembering fridge switch as you know we “tour” with our caravan instead of just setting up for a week or so and you do think of changing it when you stop
It's not right for motorhoming when you're moving about several times a day, going shopping or to a National Trust place, we were always forgetting to change it. Think the AA battery will soon wear out!
You could also buy a TomTom trucker , you can then put all your dimensions in , still no campsites but also no bashed bridges or getting trapped in tiny lanes 😉
If we are staying for a week or more we use a Wastemaster and Aquaroll so we don't need to move the motorhome. We also tow a small car that we can use when on site. Have a look at: th-cam.com/video/rMuC-QlFkac/w-d-xo.html
Bob Earnshaw You are lucky getting to try out some different Motorhomes with all your years of motorhoming experience as well I’m sure when the time comes to change you will end up with the almost perfect one because we all want the impossible a VW camper van on the move and a big twin axle on site
Having watched both your Bailey van tours , I’m sorry the vans just don’t do it for me. I personally don’t think the build quality is up to much. This is no reflection on your videos. I really think you need to try another manufacturer to give more prospective for instance auto sleeper.
I can only say nothing fell off (apart from the table) and the rattle level was low. I'd love to try an Autosleeper, but they don't loan them out like Bailey do.
Out of curiosity, before buying our Bailey, we looked at other MH's that were £30k-£40k more expensive. When viewing them, we asked ourselves, 'What are we getting here for the extra £40K', and honestly, we couldn't answer the question.........
Bob had 3 new Bailey in 3 years each one bathroom tap leaked second one all pipes boxed in and you cant see leaks wrotted the floor and destroyed the heating duct.
We have a 66-2 and it gets around most of the problems of the 59-2 but is only 60cm longer. Table has its own storage and we use it outside the van, the bathroom is great. Two full size singles mean you don’t need to make up a double each night. The lounge is slightly bigger as a result. Importantly the door and step is lower. Just the fridge is the same.
Appreciate the comprehensive tutorial for the Truma system. I didn’t even know you could have the fans on cold only!
A thorough and unbiased review. Many thanks.
You're welcome.
Brilant account on a great wee van .
Must agree ,,,,some of my best times were after downsizing from the big tag to a much more nippy size .
Being able to park in car spaces overlooking the sea and as jenny said cooking tea ect a bonus.
So enjoyed again bob x jenny .....thank you 👍👌
Hi from us in NZ. Great to watch your review of the Bailey 5.9 with us having nearly the same layout except our's is 6.4 mtrs long which means our lounge sofa's gives us 2 x 6" 1" single beds then we use our duvalays so no making up any bed! Also we have a narrow cupboard alongside of the fridge for the table and huge storage cupboards above the cab where we keep all our pillows linen etc. We also love driving our smaller MH in fact we share the driving, parking is never a problem.
Great warts and all video review. It hasn’t put me off the van, just made me weigh up the compromises with greater clarity. So thank you Bob and Jenny, appreciate you for sharing your experiences.
Great review, I have a manual fridge which admittedly I am used to but the difference is that I can’t forget to change it over because it beeps and flashes when the electric is switched off or if on battery when the engine is switched off. I agree the chopping board over the sink is not a great idea.
Yes, that one only beeps when hook up was disconnected, so we were always forgetting when we had been on battery or gas when going back on hook up at the site, to switch it back onto electric.
Great honest review Bob and Jenny and enjoyable to watch. Agree the reversing camera should be as standard as the seat belts!
The mh has a lot of positives though...
I have decided no body else does such a comprehensive review of a MH than you two. I hope other manufacturers ask you to do further van in depth reviews so you could do unbaised comparison videos.
Yes I would love to try out other Motorhomes, but no-one else seems as committed to letting TH-camrs loose on their 'Van's!
Totally agree
Thanks guys for a really good indepth review. Cos of this I will be buying and going full time soon. Retired single fella who needs to see his own country. I don't see it as some sort of adventure. It just seems a good/nice thing to do. Thanks again
Yes, an excellent and comprehensive review Jenny and Bob. Well explained. I enjoyed that.
Really enjoyed your review, excellent job. Will miss your adventure reports at 6.00pm, look forward to them.
Linda Linda Griffiths not long to wait, next one starts next week 🙂
Cool look forward to it, thank you so much 😊
Well don Bob and Jenny. A good and honest review. Thoroughly enjoyed following you (again)
So pleased you had a great time ;))
Great review Bob & Jenny I must have admit you gave it a better review than I thought you would. Thought the beds would be your man problem when you are used to fixed beds. Fridge being manual is a big minus. Don’t like the big sunlight at front I have a large storage cupboard above the cab very handy for all the bedding. Table is same as mine must say I don’t use mine to much effort to get out so I carry a small camping table which stand behind my drivers seat. Beds would be better if slightly longer for singles and why don’t they make the back cushions slightly higher than you wouldn’t need the in fills. Think bailey technical team really need to scratch they head and sort these simple problems out. So all in all a better review than the other Baileys you had 👍
Yes, think I would lose the table. Would prefer a front locker too. But, we did really like the little Bailey!
Bob never used table its to big, use a Sequoia table leg and radius top best solution we find easy to store . Fammia winder brackets supplied so fit up inside entrance door
Nice review.
I see a video where the bed was made with no need for the in-fill, which made it a bit easier.
Great vids Bob & Jenny.
All the best,
Paul.
Yes we tried that last night, we used one of the backrests upright, as a headrest. The trouble is it leaves a small gap between cushions, which the bedding escapes into.
Great review as usual Bob , re cupboards easy to fit shelves in making better space use, just took delivery in June a 762 - 2019 Advance model really good van only failing they fitted a very short spout tap in the kitchen sink water only hit edge of bowl splashing up on the work top and very difficult to fill a kettle bought a longer spout tap IE 240mm long had it fitted sadly BAILEY did not want to know the designer obviously does not visit shop floor to see the problems of his actions must have to comfy a seat in drawing office. Now in France van drives lovely ac very good especially in 38 degree heat. Re the catches on front skylight the 3 with the button locks the handles so you have to push the button to unlock i was fooled by that one too.
Thanks, but those 3 handles were in the locked position when they slipped off the latch.
Really good review very enjoyable to watch thanks very helpful
Really Love your reviews, they are always honest and quite funny. As someone who is looking to get a motorhome in the future they are very useful. Also getting your experienced opinions as to you would buy or down grade is really good. Thank you both for all your work
Thank you
Nice one bob and Jenny the review of van van was spot on well thought of what work and what doesn't I do think a fix bed would b better as if one of u want to go to bed before other one where would the other one sit and watch TV and if in the day u want a nap for a couple of hours u got no bed to kip on but in all not a bad van cheers .kev
A good review of the 6 metre bailey. Nice motorhome. However if you were thinking of downsizing, have a look at a swift RIO 310. We bought ours in 2018 and love the layout.it has the really large tall fridge, lots of storage with a rear bathroom and separate shower. Oh the fridge is energy automatic selection.The bailey is the closest we have seen to the RIO, but we think the RIO has the edge.
Great review, very thorough.
If you were downsizing would you go for the slightly longer 66-2 which would give you ability to have single beds and still be nimble enough to park easily.
Yes, we will have to have a look at 66-2.
Great in depth review.
Excellent as always, loved the tour overall and review, I was convinced we would buy fixed bed, has made us question. I wonder when listening to overall review whether Alliance 66-2 would be better? Wouldn't sort the fridge issue....😂 thanks Bob and Jenny.
Yes, 66-2 did interest us. Of course it's 0.8m longer and the kitchen isn't as big, but bathroom is better. We could use sofas as singles as they are 6ft 1in long.
Yes and I like the table solution, like you suggested, in a cupboard, 0.6m longer though I guess could make difference in some car parks etc. Always a compromise! Let's hope some other makes also provide some review vans for your reviews.
Just a tip try to shop around for ad blue , in garages I have seen some astronomical prices , as my boss has lorries and a pump in the yard he buys it for around 14ppl not the £2pl you can pay in some garages 😉
Well done great review , THANKYOU
Bob here's a thought the reason that canopy is hitting the door, I think they have made the door much higher than the Alliance 66-2 which is a similar but longer version of the 59-2, the difference in door height could be 10"
It's because the motorhome is built on a cab chassis that's higher than Alko chassis, so the door is higher up the motorhome.
@@BobEarnshawMoHo I live and learn, thanks for the information, I'm thinking of changing my Malibu van for Bailey 66-2 or Elddis 175 any views on my choices?
Really enjoyed your review, safe journey home.
Very good review! I don't like the bed/ lounge arrangement at all. Give me a neat little 2 seat area in front with the swivel seats and bedroom at the rear. No rear door to the van, but the middle towards front door.
Bob n Jenny this one of the best ever reviews fair and honest! I'm new to motorhoming just in my 2nd year so still lots to learn. Initially I was very taken by Bailey & Swift Coachbuilts but after attending about six shows I found the Q/C on both makes was fairly poor and that was with show vans offered by both Bailey & Swift? In the end, between my partner and I we chose a Malibu 640LE and in the time we have owned Lucy, she has only has two very small warranty issuses although it took Carthago a long time to sort the small problems out. I like the idea of these 6 metre vans due to Englands parking spaces being frequent and costly! Have you reviewed the Auto Trail F60 or F62 or the smaller Auto Sleeper coachbuilts?
I thought the Malibu we borrowed was well made. I've looked at the Autotrail Tribute F60 here, th-cam.com/video/wQl6vkSk0r8/w-d-xo.html.
Brilliant review thanks
Very good honest review Bob. How did you cope with the lack of storage though because you do like your accessories 😀.
Thanks, we just didn't take as much. The biggest storage problem was storing our Duvalays.
Excellent thorough review Bob. You could possibly have the van as your only vehicle.
Maybe, it's still a bit wide for an only vehicle.
Another great video thank you
Hi bob and Jenny. Keep up the good work. Can I ask your advice,when you went on your Euro trip ,on the Eurotunnel,your van is over 3500kg. How did you book it ,thanks again
We booked it through the Caravan and Motorhome Club Site. Being over 3500kg is not an issue. Coaches go the same way, it's only goods freight that's different. Just select Campervan on the Eurotunnel website.
We love to follow your travel blogs even though we do not have a motorhome or caravan but we do have a Westie. So with that in mind we nick name your site ‘Poppy’s travel guide’.
Great review
Great review Bob, very informative. Regarding the bed, can the settees be used as single beds or does the double need to be made up? Thanks 😉
The sofas are 4ft 5in long, so you could use the front seats as well to make singles. Just don't think it is very comfortable. I mention this in the earlier Making The Beds video. th-cam.com/video/Jj7GHmpKfk8/w-d-xo.html
I think that van is a bit too small. Seems a bit cramped. Poppy likes it though! Really enjoyed your honest road test and critique.
Thank you.
Bob. What is on your “Moving off check list” we are motorhome newbies and help would be appreciated
Thanks bob👍😁
Very good review.....I think you may have convinced me...thank you....
Yep....in the process of sorting that now....
Would be an ideal van for me if we could use the seating area as single beds. Hopefully Bailey will increase the length of a new van by 50cm. You failed to mention Bob your dislike of Bailey not supplying a rear view camera which incidentally I totally agree with you that it should be supplied as standard.
I did say there's no reversing camera, when I was walking round the back about 3 mins in. The Bailey Autograph range does have rear view camera, but it should be standard on all Motorhomes. Still don't think I would want to use the sofas as single beds, the front seats make the end of the bed uneven, unless you add yet another in fill cushion.
Great review, thanks. I'm new to all this. It it an awning, or a canopy? Are awnings those tent-like things you attach to the side?
Yes Awnings are tent like, canopy is the pull out screen shade. Trouble is, many people call the canopy an awning, like I do sometimes!
neat little van, noticed your review was on our favorite site Cae mawr.
One of our favourite sites too, if you watch our Top 5 Campsites of 2019 video.
Enjoyed the series Bob and Jenny
Well made fair play
Any more euro trips planned ?
Thank you. No euro trips this year, maybe next year. Working on it.
Yeh you get used to remembering fridge switch as you know we “tour” with our caravan instead of just setting up for a week or so and you do think of changing it when you stop
It's not right for motorhoming when you're moving about several times a day, going shopping or to a National Trust place, we were always forgetting to change it. Think the AA battery will soon wear out!
It’s got a decent payload compared to some vans and I like the layout
You could also buy a TomTom trucker , you can then put all your dimensions in , still no campsites but also no bashed bridges or getting trapped in tiny lanes 😉
Or take our own Falcon Navigator sat nav!
Bob Earnshaw , or that option 😉
BUT does it have a spare wheel Bob?
Good review. Thanks a lot
No it doesn't just the sticky stuff.
Thanks Bob, why don’t they fit them anymore. It really bugs me, I wouldn’t buy one
Oops sent too soon. I wouldn’t buy a new one one without. I’ve a used Bessacarr and I didn’t think about it until too late. Great review.
That was great.
How can you stay longer with a motor home compared to towing a trailer? (caravan)
If we are staying for a week or more we use a Wastemaster and Aquaroll so we don't need to move the motorhome. We also tow a small car that we can use when on site. Have a look at:
th-cam.com/video/rMuC-QlFkac/w-d-xo.html
I have been trying to get my husband to sell our Rapido Mercedes 990mhv which he loves for a Bailey or AutoTrail , you have just made me shut my mouth
Would good if you were able to ask Bailey's designer's why certain lockers don't have doors.
I don't talk to Bailey's designers, but I'm sure someone will be watching. I've said it every time I've reviewed a Bailey.
@@BobEarnshawMoHo Maybe ask to meet the bosses, would make a good video 🤔🤪
6:08 I don't suppose you know what revs it is doing at 66 mph?
Around 2100-2200 rpm, the engine is not at all stressed at that speed.
@@BobEarnshawMoHo Wow that is low, my old van must be around 3500 rpm at that speed, would love that 160hp over my weedy 85hp that's for sure.
Great review I like it but it wouldn’t work for me. Are you thinking of downsizing?
Thanks, downsizing is something we will probably do sooner or later. Wanted to see how we got on.
Bob Earnshaw You are lucky getting to try out some different Motorhomes with all your years of motorhoming experience as well I’m sure when the time comes to change you will end up with the almost perfect one because we all want the impossible a VW camper van on the move and a big twin axle on site
I like to watsh recordings from your travels even though i dont understand english.Greetings from Serbia from Mile Vukadinovic.
Thanks for watching.
Having watched both your Bailey van tours , I’m sorry the vans just don’t do it for me. I personally don’t think the build quality is up to much. This is no reflection on your videos. I really think you need to try another manufacturer to give more prospective for instance auto sleeper.
I can only say nothing fell off (apart from the table) and the rattle level was low. I'd love to try an Autosleeper, but they don't loan them out like Bailey do.
Out of curiosity, before buying our Bailey, we looked at other MH's that were £30k-£40k more expensive. When viewing them, we asked ourselves, 'What are we getting here for the extra £40K', and honestly, we couldn't answer the question.........
Bob had 3 new Bailey in 3 years each one bathroom tap leaked second one all pipes boxed in and you cant see leaks wrotted the floor and destroyed the heating duct.
Oh that wasn't good. Push fit connectors I wonder?
@@BobEarnshawMoHo No tap bodies Caraflow manufacturer they have cost bailey a few bob i feel pardon the pun.
@@BobEarnshawMoHo No tap bodies Caraflow manufacturer they have cost bailey a few bob i feel pardon the pun.
All these problems you tore about are coming with Bailey motor home and caravan they to look in too
We're is ur bed??
If you watch the video to around (16:00) you'll find out.
I'm like poppy , not amused lol