Have a newer echo and the head stopped spinning while using it today. Tried your fix before going further into repairs and .........................FIXED! I will look for replacement parts later , but for now your tip was a lifesaver. Thank you! much appreciated!
Love the older equipment, much better built than the disposable junk that’s manufactured today. I would have replaced that bearing with a new quality replacement. That bearing is probably a standard off the shelf sealed ball bearing that’s readily available. I’m glad to see others repairing the older equipment rather than throwing them away, great job love your channel.
Thanks. That helped me get mine going again. I did a carb rebuild and when it fired up the engine was great but head not spinning. Somehow in the process managed to get the drive shaft disconnected from head I think since the tube was a bit loose and had moved - this helped me get it going again.
Hi I have tried innumerable times to get my line trimmer to work to no avail. In actual fact I just gave up and bought an electric 240 volt unit for $50 but on reflection it is still sitting in the box and have decided I am not going to let that motor get the better of me so now when I look at this video I am more determined and have started to pull the whole unit apart. Will keep you informed !
Brilliant repair 😁 even this old Echo's trimmer head is smoother than my new chinese trimmer 😐🤣 high quality ball bearing in the head are really important while trimming ... poor quality ones tend to stop faster when you stop reving up 😡 and that's annoying
HG that was a good step-by-step finding the issue with this trimmer head issue. My Echo SRM 2100 trimmer head will not free wheel. Motor starts/run ok but head turns all the time, even at idle. With motor stopped, and I turn the trimmer head by hand, the motor turns over too. Could this be caused by clutch not disengaging? And could you recommend a DIY fix? ... thx, tww
yes it sounds like the spring let go on the clutch so it's not disengaging. yes first get to the clutch to make sure then order a new one from someplace like Ereplacementparts.
Remember something you said about checking the spark arrestor screen in the muffler? I opened the muffler to check it out, and Voila!!! The spark arrestor is missing... Now I have to buy one and maybe that's the reason why the trimmer bogged down and turns off when moving the lever to run...
@Home Garage Do you have a video showing how to remove the bearings? I got a echo srm 210 that had this problem I eventually got the head to spin but it vibrates really bad and doesn't have the power it should.
Just unboxed a brand new Husq. weed eater today at work and the darn head wont spin. Cant take it back because we bought it 8 months ago as a back up . Guess I will take it apart . Thanks for this video
IF the weed eater is not threaded correctly will that stop the head spinner from cutting or working ? And if your weed eater ISN'T threaded, right will it cut at all ?
LOVE THIS - THANK YOU - YOU MADE IT LOOK EASY. My Echo 9yrs old, is spinning, but the throttle won't engage it to 'cut'. It keeps spinning, but no power when I squeeze the throttle. So, from what I watched, I am guess it is the middle long thing not engaging. Oh well, no time, so just purchased a Stihl FS 56 RC.
Problem is once bearings are pitted even though you’ve managed to break it loose they’re still not going to roll smoothly. When he spun that I could hear the bearing rumble even in the video. This means two things one it’s going to fail permanently soon and two even though it’s running it’s going to be losing a lot of power in that bearing. Echo is a major brand I am surprised even though it’s older you seem to think you can’t get parts I didn’t know they were poor that way.
Home Garage Not a problem. Tried starting my strimmer up this morning & the head wasn’t going round & checked your video out. Hopefully wd40 does the job for my strimmer & works. Thank you
Every time I put PAS-225 trimmer in for info out comes SRM or something not related. Just took the whole creature apart sanded the clutch everything moves but the rpm goes up and nothing is turning the shaft?
have you confirmed that the shaft moves when you turn the trimmer head? If so, then there might be a problem at the coupling where the attachment goes.
it's either the clutch or the end of the drive shaft, is not making full contact. try point the trimmer head to the sky and then slowly bring it down, horizontal and start it, it should work every time then
Thank you for the comment I appreciate it. What model trimmer do you have ? Some trimmers don't have clutches so they always spin. Yours may be that way.
Great video and i had the same experience with a friends echo trimmer but a newer model the head would spin then stop so i lubed the drive cable first and though that was it but it stopped completely . i tool the front part off and the bearing was froze so i soaked it with penetrating oil and checked for a new part which was 35 dollars because you couldnt just buy the bearing the bearing loosened up and gave the trimmer back and no problems .
In the long term, the bearing has no lubrication anymore (either what lead to seizing, or dissolved by the oil). The part catalog shows what size of bearing goes in each place, e.g. 6001 and 6900 for the sealed ones on either end of the drive shaft. They require a heat gun and retaining ring pliers to remove, but can be had for cheap. If the seal is removable, they can be cleaned and re-greased. PDF Manual & Catalog finder (give your specific model to make sure): www.echo-usa.com/Support-Help/Technical-Documents E.g., Parts Catalog for SRM-225 in PDF form: www.echo-usa.com/getattachment/5e39ad0e-0cac-4886-aa3a-9fa10b8be92d/SRM-225_T98314(A)_020419_es Literally just now discovered this *AMAZING* app that will let you find parts catalogs and more in a nested-tree, interactive format. Click "Product Line" to find trimmers: echoinc.partsmartweb.com/scripts/EmpartISAPI.dll?MF
my echo is a bit newer, twin/double line (brush and grass) heavy duty. And the head isn't spinning (same as the issue you dealt with here). Fires up ok. My question is, what is the lubricant product you used, any product in particular (brand)? I was using my 20v one today and the motor just died in it, piece of cr...anyways...went to use my "back up" echo, to which I haven't used in a while, and the head wasn't spinning. Seems I am not the only one with such problems. They certainly do not make things to last at least 10 years, even with care...beyond annoying. And looks like I am gonna have to dig out some tools as well. I can't win. Would appreciate a response when you have the chance! Thanks very much and God bless!
this was a very old video but if I recall it was "Blaster Silicone Lubricant" but to be honest If I had to do I again, I would just use brake cleaner first and I wouldn't have had to wait as long.
@@HomeGaragechannel thank you for responding...and letting me know what will help. Much appreciated! I will ask my neighbour, as he has had a small engine repair business in the past. I am sure he has break cleaner and silicone lubricant...to which I don't have any on hand to my knowledge. If my dad was still here, he would know if he had any...again, thank you very much!
@@HomeGaragechannel all though the clutch cover shaft insert is very easily to loosen up just by a good drop of oil and in some cases a bit of heat from a propane torch and then applying the penetration as it will smoke through to the problem and it will loosen up for sure
My echo trimmer has a head you bang on the ground to let more line out.... I banged it a bit hard.... no more spinning 😭... I feel like it’s probably the shaft
@@HomeGaragechannel possible. idle screw didn't do it. will get around to clutch if we ever get down to 70s or even 80s. it's painful working on anything in Houston unbearable heat and humidity and mosquitoes even sep. 11 months + out of year.
Probably the best DIY Vi
deo I have seen on TH-cam. Very clear, easy to follow, without a lot of extra wasted video time. Excellent job. Thank you.
Thank you very much, I appreciate it.
Love your channel. Because of your channel I now called a small engine repair man here in Fiji 🇫🇯
Very cool! thank you.
Have a newer echo and the head stopped spinning while using it today. Tried your fix before going further into repairs and .........................FIXED! I will look for replacement parts later , but for now your tip was a lifesaver. Thank you! much appreciated!
No problem I appreciate your comment
Started doing small engine repair and stuff like this absolutely changes the game. Thank you!
Glad to help
Love the older equipment, much better built than the disposable junk that’s manufactured today. I would have replaced that bearing with a new quality replacement. That bearing is probably a standard off the shelf sealed ball bearing that’s readily available. I’m glad to see others repairing the older equipment rather than throwing them away, great job love your channel.
you got that right and Thank You Roger justice.
Thanks. That helped me get mine going again. I did a carb rebuild and when it fired up the engine was great but head not spinning. Somehow in the process managed to get the drive shaft disconnected from head I think since the tube was a bit loose and had moved - this helped me get it going again.
That makes sense. Glad you got it working. Thanks for the comment
Great fix 👍 I love those older Echo trimmers! So easy to work on & hard to kill.
Alan Marshall thanks for the comment. I was quite surprised to see how easy it was to work on.
Good afternoon, take all the tips I can get. Could it freeze up over winter. Thank you
it would depend on the humidity level and how cold it got.
Amazing followed your video and worked perfectly here in Australia :)
thank you Leon Robinson
This is just what I needed to know. Now I know what to look for. Time to pull it apart.
Thank you Mark Mavar for the comment I appreciate it
Hi I have tried innumerable times to get my line trimmer to work to no avail. In actual fact I just gave up and bought an electric 240 volt unit for $50 but on reflection it is still sitting in the box and have decided I am not going to let that motor get the better of me so now when I look at this video I am more determined and have started to pull the whole unit apart. Will keep you informed !
Good luck Richard Glover for the comment I appreciate it
Well it's been 3 years still waiting for an update
Thanks. Does the part that you used the penetrating oil on need any grease or lubrication added?
Its not supposed to as it was a sealed bearing. Thanks for the comment I appreciate it
Shouldn't you grease the bearing in that case?
I probably could but its a sealed bearing.
Brilliant repair 😁 even this old Echo's trimmer head is smoother than my new chinese trimmer 😐🤣 high quality ball bearing in the head are really important while trimming ... poor quality ones tend to stop faster when you stop reving up 😡 and that's annoying
Thank you Mohsen Kiae for the comment. I really like the way this echo works too. Very smooth.
HG that was a good step-by-step finding the issue with this trimmer head issue. My Echo SRM 2100 trimmer head will not free wheel. Motor starts/run ok but head turns all the time, even at idle. With motor stopped, and I turn the trimmer head by hand, the motor turns over too. Could this be caused by clutch not disengaging? And could you recommend a DIY fix? ... thx, tww
yes it sounds like the spring let go on the clutch so it's not disengaging. yes first get to the clutch to make sure then order a new one from someplace like Ereplacementparts.
@@HomeGaragechannel Man thx for the quick response and your help is much appreciated! ...thx, tww
@@tommywwalden1599 no problem
Well, that's why I have a curved shaft trimmer. The Echo GT 225.
What’s the advantage of a curved shaft? My dad has an Echo GT 225 too, it’s my favorite weed eater.
Remember something you said about checking the spark arrestor screen in the muffler? I opened the muffler to check it out, and Voila!!! The spark arrestor is missing... Now I have to buy one and maybe that's the reason why the trimmer bogged down and turns off when moving the lever to run...
not having a spark arrestor won't make it bog down going from choke to no choke
@Home Garage Do you have a video showing how to remove the bearings? I got a echo srm 210 that had this problem I eventually got the head to spin but it vibrates really bad and doesn't have the power it should.
no I don't I didn't get that far, into the rebuild.
@@HomeGaragechannel alright. Thanks for reply anyways.
Just unboxed a brand new Husq. weed eater today at work and the darn head wont spin. Cant take it back because we bought it 8 months ago as a back up . Guess I will take it apart . Thanks for this video
That really sucks . Thanks for the comment I appreciate it
IF the weed eater is not threaded correctly will that stop the head spinner from cutting or working ? And if your weed eater ISN'T threaded, right will it cut at all ?
Are you asking about the way the line is put on the trimmer head? I'm not sure what threading your asking about.
Home Garage , YES the line that you put ON the head.
THANK YOU
@@Fireplace-si7xb yes you are absolutely correct. Its best to thread the line in the trimmer head with some care otherwise using it will be difficult.
Home Garage , touche'
Yay I've been waiting thank you
Thanks I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Good job.
thank you Rozell Swain
Just got one of these trimmers not too long ago. Any idea how to put a blade on it?
no I've never tried.
LOVE THIS - THANK YOU - YOU MADE IT LOOK EASY. My Echo 9yrs old, is spinning, but the throttle won't engage it to 'cut'. It keeps spinning, but no power when I squeeze the throttle. So, from what I watched, I am guess it is the middle long thing not engaging. Oh well, no time, so just purchased a Stihl FS 56 RC.
that's a good trimmer choice.
Great video. Simple to follow.
Glad it was helpful!
Problem is once bearings are pitted even though you’ve managed to break it loose they’re still not going to roll smoothly. When he spun that I could hear the bearing rumble even in the video. This means two things one it’s going to fail permanently soon and two even though it’s running it’s going to be losing a lot of power in that bearing. Echo is a major brand I am surprised even though it’s older you seem to think you can’t get parts I didn’t know they were poor that way.
yes you are absolutely right. The bearing needs to be replaced.
Thanks a bunch for this! Exactly what was wrong with mine.
no problem
My dad had one like that. It was a great trimmer
yes these were fantastic back in the day.
Can you use WD40 to spray into the clutch to loosen it up?
Thank you STEVE LUFC for the comment I appreciate it. Yes you can use WD40 it should work just as well.
Home Garage Not a problem. Tried starting my strimmer up this morning & the head wasn’t going round & checked your video out. Hopefully wd40 does the job for my strimmer & works. Thank you
@@HomeGaragechannel +Steeve FooFighter74 you realize there won't be much grease left afterward, right?
this might be the first time i've ever seen penetrating oil work on anything stuck, lol
I hate to say it but have to agree with you
Fluid film works pretty darn well
very good information and easy to follow .
Glad you liked it
Every time I put PAS-225 trimmer in for info out comes SRM or something not related. Just took the whole creature apart sanded the clutch everything moves but the rpm goes up and nothing is turning the shaft?
have you confirmed that the shaft moves when you turn the trimmer head? If so, then there might be a problem at the coupling where the attachment goes.
@@HomeGaragechannel Ahhh problem found in the middle joint the 2" coupler was in backwards? All is well in the world yet again .
What might be the cause if sometimes spins, sometimes does not? I just used mine. It would not spin. Restarted it and it did spin?
it's either the clutch or the end of the drive shaft, is not making full contact. try point the trimmer head to the sky and then slowly bring it down, horizontal and start it, it should work every time then
Hello I have a question my spinning head running without me pressing the gas how can I make the engine run without spinning the head ? Thank u
Thank you for the comment I appreciate it. What model trimmer do you have ? Some trimmers don't have clutches so they always spin. Yours may be that way.
Nice video, Home Garage! I like the older design. Very simple! This Echo looks like a 1998? :)
999thenewman thanks for the comment. I'm not sure about the year but I really like this design. It's light and easy to use.
Great video and i had the same experience with a friends echo trimmer but a newer model the head would spin then stop so i lubed the drive cable first and though that was it but it stopped completely . i tool the front part off and the bearing was froze so i soaked it with penetrating oil and checked for a new part which was 35 dollars because you couldnt just buy the bearing the bearing loosened up and gave the trimmer back and no problems .
hunter1953 thanks for the comment and great work. Glad I'm not the only one who will at least try a fix versus buying new.
In the long term, the bearing has no lubrication anymore (either what lead to seizing, or dissolved by the oil). The part catalog shows what size of bearing goes in each place, e.g. 6001 and 6900 for the sealed ones on either end of the drive shaft. They require a heat gun and retaining ring pliers to remove, but can be had for cheap. If the seal is removable, they can be cleaned and re-greased.
PDF Manual & Catalog finder (give your specific model to make sure):
www.echo-usa.com/Support-Help/Technical-Documents
E.g., Parts Catalog for SRM-225 in PDF form:
www.echo-usa.com/getattachment/5e39ad0e-0cac-4886-aa3a-9fa10b8be92d/SRM-225_T98314(A)_020419_es
Literally just now discovered this *AMAZING* app that will let you find parts catalogs and more in a nested-tree, interactive format. Click "Product Line" to find trimmers:
echoinc.partsmartweb.com/scripts/EmpartISAPI.dll?MF
Awesome fix
thank you Chris Montoya
Thanks 😊 that was a very big help indeed 👍
thank you dexter collins.
Brilliant pal .
Thank you for the comment I appreciate it
Great save!
thank you Bruce Coleman.
my echo is a bit newer, twin/double line (brush and grass) heavy duty. And the head isn't spinning (same as the issue you dealt with here). Fires up ok.
My question is, what is the lubricant product you used, any product in particular (brand)?
I was using my 20v one today and the motor just died in it, piece of cr...anyways...went to use my "back up" echo, to which I haven't used in a while, and the head wasn't spinning. Seems I am not the only one with such problems. They certainly do not make things to last at least 10 years, even with care...beyond annoying.
And looks like I am gonna have to dig out some tools as well. I can't win.
Would appreciate a response when you have the chance!
Thanks very much and God bless!
this was a very old video but if I recall it was "Blaster Silicone Lubricant" but to be honest If I had to do I again, I would just use brake cleaner first and I wouldn't have had to wait as long.
@@HomeGaragechannel thank you for responding...and letting me know what will help. Much appreciated! I will ask my neighbour, as he has had a small engine repair business in the past. I am sure he has break cleaner and silicone lubricant...to which I don't have any on hand to my knowledge. If my dad was still here, he would know if he had any...again, thank you very much!
no problem
Great man great fix and easy way
Thank you Mazhar Abbas Syed for the comment I appreciate it.
Helped a lot.
Very helpful.Thank u
Glad it was helpful!
awesome video bro
Thank you for the comment I appreciate it
really awesome helpful video
Glad it was helpful!
Awesome Video,Bro
Rob G thanks for the comment I appreciate it.
That's great if you have the knowledge and tools to take care of it. But what if u don't have the tools????
give it to someone else who does.
ok I am going to try this to see if it solves the problem
Its that or the trimmer head gearbox
We are going to learn on daily basis until we retire......
Uni Sol thanks for the comment. I don't want to stop learning anytime soon.
Echo has dual clutch bearings
Jimmy Pham thank you for the comment and the information.
a very common problem but an easy fix
Yes very common
@@HomeGaragechannel all though the clutch cover shaft insert is very easily to loosen up just by a good drop of oil and in some cases a bit of heat from a propane torch and then applying the penetration as it will smoke through to the problem and it will loosen up for sure
@@Patrick4959 that sounds like a good way to loosen it up.
@@HomeGaragechannel yes it is according to Donyboy73 the small engine doctor
My echo trimmer has a head you bang on the ground to let more line out.... I banged it a bit hard.... no more spinning 😭... I feel like it’s probably the shaft
possibly or the head was damaged
999thenewman it’s a 1985 , According to there website, so, it’s an ‘85 not a ‘98
Thanks
You're welcome.
the head on my darn trimmer won't stop spinning no matter how you adjust the Low carb screw.
The clutch spring is probably broken so its always engaged
@@HomeGaragechannel possible. idle screw didn't do it. will get around to clutch if we ever get down to 70s or even 80s. it's painful working on anything in Houston unbearable heat and humidity and mosquitoes even sep. 11 months + out of year.
@@WV591 oh I understand the feeling. Let me know if you find out
Simple fix
simple enough
1:22 oil? lol
Just seems too simple I'm encouraged to try on my Ryobi pos
worth a shot
So easy when yi know how, garage would take a fortune for that and con us
thank you James Prentice.
Thanks man :) I subbed
Thank you
Can't you buy a new one.
not a direct replacement it's too out of date.
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