I’m from Western Europe and live in Kazakhstan right now, and it’s a truly amazing country if you have kids. I’ve got two children and whenever we go into a restaurant there are play areas for the kids. There are parks and playgrounds everywhere. It’s so nice to walk around the city and see families with lots of kids. The future belongs to those who show up, and westerners and East Asians aren’t showing up.
Wrong. Climate change will obliterate global agriculture, especially in the global South, causing mass famine and billions of climate refugees to flood into the global north. We will be forced to transition to indoor growing techniques like the Dutch are developing now, except that this will be immensely energy intensive, causing humans to use even more fossil fuels. Furthermore, automation is making the majority of people permanently unemployable. As in, by the end of the century and almost certainly sooner than that, there will be absolutely no task that a machine can't perform infinitely better than a human, except maybe have sex, but even there, it's possible I'm wrong. Ageing and all other diseases will be cured and humans will essentially become technologically capable of achieving biological immortality. The task of this century's politics is to ensure that the infinite wealth and technological omnipotence are democratized among the masses, and that animals are also liberate from suffering, instead of letting billionaires create a howling eternal hell on earth where they rape and torture the rest of us to death for fun, before cloning new slaves to torture and rape to assuage their intolerable boredom.
Kazakhs have the most strict cousin marriages taboo. One cannot marry any 7th cousin, meaning no common ancestors in 7 generations. Kazakhs also have sophisticated genealogy traditions allowing to comply with the taboo. When I was a student I met a girl, when began dating her I asked what ancestry she has. After finding out her both parents belong to the same ancestry as my parents have (the same medieval clans) and they lived in the same region as my grandfather, I changed her number in my phone to "sister" and we still remain very good friends. "Kazakh style friendzone"
Personally, I think 7 generations is a bit of an overkill. I know that 2nd and 3rd cousins is a certain No-go zone, but beyond that the chance of genetic deviations are same as background. So, essentially it was Esim khan's decision to politically tie up Kazak tribes together by banning intra-tribal marriages, that ruined your date 😄
@@ratzpat6710 Zhetï ata is certainly the most strict rule in Kazakh traditions. That is true, Yesim (Esim) khan's old ways was a cornerstone set of laws that cemented the Kazakh people identity. Yes, the traditions recommend to marry women from different clans but not just for nationbuilding, but also for genetic reasons. A very good negative example is early Ghengizids who always married women from the same family, the same clan, of the Khongirats. This meant they formally kept no-cousin marriage taboo on male lineage but were repeatedly marrying cousins on female lineage. Oelun was an aunt to Borte. The Kazakh tradition to avoid marriages of the same clan females ensures no cousins marriages on female line
7 generations? This is just impossible. Who and how do you think were keeping such accurate genealogy long before DNA testing for whole population of nomads? No one.
@chachachi-hh1ks you can listen to podcasts by zhaksylyk. He is a historian who is also well versed in studies of kazakh genetics. He says our nomadic culture is the reason, most things were kept around by word of mouth whilst books were kept for more ancient history. Hence you get this constant remembering of ancestorial lineages. I am Kazakh the more I grow the more I become a traditional Kazakh in this specific way. I wanna learn more about lineages, regional cultures, know my ancestry. For example I am from Argyn tribe, of his son Kuandyk. I think I can trace my lineage potentially all the way back to him.
@@chachachi-hh1ks memorising seven male ancestors of a single male lineage is actually not so difficult. Memorising all the male and female ancestors in seven generations is indeed nearly impossible. I can name seven male lineage ancestors and all the female and male ancestors in four generations including their subethnic affiliations. My male lineage ancestry also belongs to Argyn sub-ethnic group Atygay clan that began from Qarakhodja bey of the Golden horde
@@themaskedarabrussianWritten form of our language (Turkic) is 1500 years old. Göktürk Empire and Golden Horde (which subjigated even Russia) is our lineage. So it’s not twice a year. It’s every 2-2.5 years 😜
I think the family culture is a huge benefit. If your recieve help from your parent while starting your own family, and then still go to higher education, that seems to be much conductive for fertility, than being expecter to move out as soon as possible, get higher education, then career, and only then maybe a family of your own.
But that’s what it’s like in East Asia also and they have the lowest fertility rates on earth. You’re thinking that must be the cause because that’s what it’s like in the west, but there is no connection. It must be something else.
As a Kazakh let me point out a couple of nuances: as everything in life, it comes with a cost, where there are rights, there are also responsibilities. When a relative helps you, you are obliged to help them when they need it. It means you have to give up a part of your life, your privacy, your priorities in favor of helping the (extended) family.
Virgin Eastern Europe: Communism has ruined us, our demographic spiral is hurting us and our people won’t have children. Chad Kazakhstan: Communism is weak, we do not die, we multiply.
@@andrewrogers3067 massive deportations resulting in ethnicity losing ties to their roots and moving elsewhere after the collapse of USSR might have something to do with it. If their home communities were a bit more tightly knit or countries could afford it, they could return like Crimean Tatars returned to Crimea, Germans repatriated to Germany, Jews to Israel, Koreans (who were also deported to Kazakhstan) to South Korea. But no. And Ukrainians and Poles are now two ethnicities with huge diaspora in the West, because they had good levels of education to shoot higher with their nations starting out among the poorest in Europe in the 90s
@@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986 The issue with being industrialized, is that that system takes a lot of effort to maintain. So it is a lot easier ironically to recover from disasters if you are dirt poor than if you now have a built-up area now falling apart and a lot of social obligations you must meet with less people.
Being one of the many Germans who once lived in Kazakhstan and moved to Germany in the 90‘s im happy to see Kazakhstan triving. Thank you for this interesting video and your research!
Another reason why Central Asian countries have high fertility, is a fact that grandparents ready to take burden of parenting from young couples. For example when I was born, my parents were in their 20th, and just started their careers. As result my grandparents took me and until start of school i lived with my grandparents. It was same for several of my cousins and friends. Young couple were not forced to chose between parenthood and career. And now one of my cousins who also was raised by grandparents has her own child and her parents are raising her while she and her husband are studying in Germany. It is basically like loan your parent ready to raise your first or second children, while you build your life, but it means that in future you need to repay by raising your oldest grandchildren.
It would definitely help a lot in the current age with the number of elderly growing larger: They already have experience raising a child, usually have time to spare and it gives the young parents some leeway when it comes to taking care of their child themselves
Isn't this how peasant family functioned for centuries? Like its a notorious stereotype in the US atleast, that the elderly rn are rich and bored. Millennial and late gen z are young, poor, and stressed/overworked. I understand it's nieve to this- but I think that this stratification of stress between generations can help foster the fertility replacement rate to a much better position, if elders step up to the plate and help.
Israel and Kazahstan are demographic exceptions. Israel is a cube and Kazahstan is rectangle in the countryballs universe while most of the other countries are spheres. Coincidence? I think not!
Uzbekistan is another example of this phenomenon: TFR 2012: 2.34 TFR 2020: 3.06 TFR 2021: 3.27 TFR 2022: 3.40 TFR 2023: 3.50 Economically, it is not as rich as Kazakhstan but not as poor either. The poorest country in Central Asia, Tajikistan, has a stagnant fertility trend. All these Central Asian countries are bucking the global trend. I wonder why?
Я сейчас живу в Узбекистане. Думаю причины такие: 1)дешевое жилье в деревне. Дети остаются с родителями. Построить +1комнату дешевле чем 1 новый дом. 2)много хорошей и дешевой еды. Ты сможешь прокормить много детей. 3)родственники помогают присматривать за детьми
@@RuslanMusin99 let me translate to English: I currently live in Uzbekistan. I think the reasons are as follows: 1. In rural areas, housing is cheap. Children stay with their parents. Adding a room into a preexisting house is cheaper than buying a new home entirely. 2. There exists a lot of good and cheap food, with which you could feed a lot of children. 3. Relatives are involved in looking after children.
@@baha3alshamari152 If you count it as part of Central Asia, then of course. Btw, the 4.3 figure is speculative; we simply don't have proper data for birth rates in Afghanistan at this moment. According to the last nationwide survey conducted by the DHS program in 2015, Afghanistan's fertility rate was 5.3 (2014-2015). According to the Population Reference Bureau, the fertility rate in 2023 is 5.4, which indicates an increase from 2015. Proper adjustments for all years can only be made when there's sufficient evidence.
@@Coolname-xx1yythats true . I live in a small town in central Kazakhstan and lately there have been appearing loads of billboards about corruption :,(
As a Kazakh I'd say that "Factor X" is probably confidence in future. Nobody tells us that we will die martyrs and we don't really have any existential threats that general populations is aware of(Other than maybe Islamists from Afghan region, but that might be a stretch), we got no climate catastrophe cults and most people are patriotic and want their country to flourish
@@gilgameschvonuruk4982I'm not kazakh, but as a citizen of another post-soviet state I would suppose that people from our region are more conservative in general and as I know Kazakhstan had quite authoritarian government which also an important factor.
How is the economical situation there though? gpd seems to be somewhat equal to my country -Türkiye- however most married couples here have though time having more than one children.
@@kadirbozkus-ss3sm Turks apparently need fertility medication if the average couple have such issues I can understand few couples suffering infertility problems but shouldn't most be able to have children with normal sex life
I recommend the Japanese manga 'A Bride's Tale' which is set in historical central Asia and contains a lot of information about the culture, dress and social systems that are not widely available in English. It also has some of the most beautiful art, as the author has a very keen eye for detail and an intricate style.
Altair: A Record of Battles and Maria the Virgin Witch are also detail-savvy depictions of history in semi-fictionalized settings, going through some historically significant progressions, like the Lutheran reformation.
I am from Kazakhstan and i think u missed 2 points: 1.The mass immigration of ethnic Kazakhs after the independence from countries like China, Uzbekistan, Mongolia, Kyrgyzstan e.t.c They tend to be a lot more conservative and have high f.r. 2.The government encourages birth rate, by giving women money depending how many children they have It was still a good video, thanks from Kazakhstan 🇰🇿👍
@@samalaimukhametova7290 Бұл да бала туу санының өсуіне ықпал етіп жатыр емес пе? Мысалы Қытай сияқты елдерде керісінше баланы аз табуға ынталандырады, бізде керісінше.
Bro, the allowance for children is minuscule and consist of one time payment followed by monthly payments until child is 12 months old. Combined they ALMOST cover the cost of diapers. I can guarantee that this allowance has no effect on the fertility rate,
family structure and close bonds to relatives, child care costs aren't really costs. clothing, child toys and equipment are all gifted or passed from family to family for reuse. people also give significant cash gifts for newborn babies 4 times until they turn 7years: 1 day - cash, 40 days - cash, 1 year - cash, 1 first school day -cash, cumulatively it does cover a lot of the fixed costs of having a baby.
It seems more and more people are discovering amazing Kazakhstan. You can really notice that Kazakhstan is something extra. Well backed by numbers and good research in this video.
I think an "X factor" candidate may be the population density in comparison to livable area, where Kazakhstan is hilariously underpopulated. It's steppes may not be prime real estate, but by comparison to Canada and Australia, both largely inhospitable wastelands, it's downright heavenly. It may not usually be such a prominent factor in demographics development in the 21st century, but when the disparity is so stark...
Look at the population density map of Kazakhstan. It is more similar to australia than you think. Most people live in the south near or in the fergana valley. Or in the north where climate is more mild. Central kazakhstan is deserts, mountains or steppe, not very livable.
@@gairionysten3188 Dunno, maybe. I haven't checked how the density map compares to the nearby countries either, so maybe it's not such a relevant factor. I do think the question of whether having pre-industrial levels of density can prompt greater fertility even in a modern world is a real one though.
Салам нашим братьям узбекам и кыргызам. ❤ Миру вашему дому! Моя мечта ,чтобы вся Центральная Азия процветала, наши добрые и гостеприимные народы этого заслуживают.
There’s another country I’d love to see you tackle, Iceland. Iceland had a very high fertility rate despite being a rather rich and secular country, going above the replacement rate in the late 80s early 90s, and the 2010s briefly. I was curious why this was the case, and wonder if being an island has anything to do with it, New Zealand also has a solid fertility rate but is far worse than Iceland.
@@jostnamane3951well, still more than the 1,4 of my country Portugal which is the poorest in western Europe and so I suppose is way much poorer than Iceland. And also by what I know Iceland isn't yet importing hundreds of thousands of Africans and Indians that have much more babies than the natives
It is related to the network of families, being an island of a small isolated ethnicity builds up a tight knitted community bonding in this situation they get enough stability and security to trust in the future. Same happens to close communities all around the world, and that is the reason why Israel has that high fertility rate, basically being a tiny country of many closed communities.
19:00 Sons in Kazakh families traditionally move out, except the youngest son who cares for his parents with his family. All the inheritance goes to the youngest son. Kazakh families help each other. Some childless couples also (sometimes) care for their nephews or something. I was living with my childless uncle for a few years, for example.
I guess I'm the youngest son even though I'm a daughter. My siblings are enjoying their individual life and I have to help the family and have no life of my own. But yay inheritance.
As a person from Kazakhstan, who noticed that's trends as well, I can probably add a few things to this video as well. First of all, kazakhstan is a country with a high level of external migration between regions. Especially between rural and city areas, due to collapse of ussr and immigration of skill labor, many jobs been opened in the cities, and even more in the next year's, due to economic boom. It reminds me of a first wave of industrial revolution situation, when cities grow rapidly, due to external migration from the rural areas. Culturally speaking, I would also noted about high levels of interethnic marriages, between different cultures, especially in the North. Despite Being somewhat downlooked by the older members of a kazakh family, it greatly contributed to assimilation amd cultural integration of a different ethnic groups in the cities. This trend also somewhat contributed to secularism ane high knowledge of Russian language, because in the era of russian speaking majority in the population, high interethnic marriages also been a thing. And the last is, secular behaviour is very high, even in the somewhat religious families, due to differences in Islam between orthodox arabic version, and a local one, witch been greatly influenced by the nomadic traditions, and so less strict in many regards.
I agree Kazakhstan should assimilate ethnic minorities,especially Russians, so that they don't feel marginalized, because otherwise they would want to join Russia
@@shk439first at all Kz should ban all ruzzian medias and "NGOs" to prevent Crimea scenario on north. Our authority just have ignored literally hundreds of "NGOs", that have been gaslighting russian speakers into victim mindset while irl they are imperial settlers
@@maksimfedoryakuh, no? Speaking as a northern kazakh who lives in a city, where half of population is russian, there are no real supporters of "returning to Russia" or whatever. Plenty of people, especially young ones, are supportive of Ukraine, including Russians. Or they think that the war is ultimately pointless violence. Even older people really just support Russia's cause, without wanting to join them. It's just pointless, and it'd threaten the good and stable relations with our big neighbour, that might leave us closer to China in exchange.
@@PretzelsWithSalt there are no such a thing as "good relationship" with empire. You are just valuable, as hub between western and ruzzian market, but nothing will prevent gaslighting of ruzzian minority into victim mindset in next 5 years
Israelis and Kazakhs have both experienced catastrophic genocides within living memory. Much of their demographic growth is compensatory. “We need to be more numerous” mindset is still prevalent despite the urbanization, economic development, societal atomization, and advancing feminism.
Israel has haredi ultra orthodox Jews otherwise the fertility rate is 2.4 but it's declining too so non Haredim fertility rate will be below replacement rate Kazakhstan fertility rate will decline in the future but it will take them a lot of time and they can recover from it in case it happens in the future much faster than western countries
@@Hasanaljadid Armenians had quite high fertility till recently and very high emigration. Perhaps Armenia is too small to sustain a large population and that can be a major demographic constraint. But again, as regional peace sets in and Armenia re-orients its foreign policies from Russia to the developed world there should be a strong surge in investment, trade and economic activity, which will improve Armenians livelihoods and provide more room for demographic growth. So it’s a matter of them mending the relationships with neighboring countries, opening borders and transport links, burying the bitter nationalism and getting back to business. Under such a pragmatic approach I see no reason why they wouldn’t prosper. Greeks? What about them? Theirs is a developed country that has demographically grown as much as it probably could. It’s up to them wether to have more babies or less, no pressure there.
@@baha3alshamari152 sure, in the long run fertility goes down everywhere. Can’t defy gravity. Can’t stop universal entropy. All the great creative energy the patriarchal culture and society accumulated in millennia is blown apart in few decades.
@@Hasanaljadid Contrary to what you might imagine, the Greeks and Armenians never experienced mass destruction; on the contrary, they were spoiled by Christian western values and suffer from the overwhelmed, wounded nationalist syndrome because they did not establish the assertive nation-states with the maximalist borders they dreamed of.
As a Buryat wish all the best to Kazakhs and Kazakhstan, they were lucky to receive an independence during the Soviet collapse unlike us, who are still a colony of Moscow, still under Russian opression and genocide. Hope for Siberian independence one day.
@@baha3alshamari152 the short answer no, it asked to leave. It even received a status of an independent state in Russian Federation. But there were only 20 percent Buryats, and as other republics, all activities for the further steps of real independence and even what was achieved, quickly was destroyed by Russian KGB
Sorry but one shouldn’t call the effort that came with blood, sweat and tears simple luck. Independence, especially from USSR considering how many still have left within Russia, is not a luck. It’s decades of fight and perseverance
The difference between Kazakh and Russian approach on having children are huge and mainly caused by the older generation. For the Russians both from Russia and from Kazakhstan their gold time passed during soviet times. The Russians had the best time during the usssr, and the generation that then experienced the collapse of the socialist state had huge depression after during so called democratic and capitalist era that came after USSR collapse. Those people would raise their children in constant fear of the future and wouldn’t accept the new realities which then led to many depressed families, alcoholism and other similar issues within the nuclear families. The hard times in economy during the 90s didn’t help. Overall the Russian family would consist of one grandmother who would be nostalgic of the past Soviet time, her daughter who married early and had to overcome the difficulties of the 90s and her ex husband who divorced her due to alcohol problems and her only child who she would raise hating the family values Whereas the Kazakhs had new found hope after the collapse of the USSR, and a common Kazakh family believed that the future only holds the brighter and better times for us as a nation because the soviet times were the worst in Kazakh history. Thus our grandparents were encouraging their children and helping them financially to start families and have more children in hopes that the future generation is the key to build a strong and blooming economy. On top of that our first president was the family type guy who could speak directly to the common folk and in all his speeches he would bring up the demographic issue, in Kazakh language which actually means a lot considering the majority of the government figures were Russian speakers. The president then made a lot of programs that supported the young families and mothers financially and also made a lot of scholarships available for rural children. I think this is the X factor. The hope for better future.
I think it's wrong to even use the GDP numbers from "oil drilling regions" because 99 % of the people there won't get any money from this and it artificially increases the average income. Would be interesting to see how it is different from the mean income.
That was exactly my thought. There are few very high paying jobs in the oil sector but the majority of people are on the same level as the rest of the country.
@@jirislavicek9954 Even more likely it's high paying jobs for foreigners, because you don't become a high educated engineer by living in the steps in the most poor part of a country.
@@3komma141592653 Still it's better than nothing. Drilling operations require lot of auxiliary jobs - hospitality, drivers, manual labor, etc. By my understanding the Kazakh language is young, it only exists in written form since the establishment of the Soviet Union. There is no literature and intellectual heritage in Kazakh language and many technical terms don't exist in it. Technical expertise is mostly thought in Russian in universities, which pushes many Kazakh only speaking students out of the lucrative jobs. At least that was the case until pretty recently. Western companies bring their own experts from the West.
Did not have this on my "most likely KaiserBauch next video topic" card! Can we appreciate, besides the good demographics, how beautiful their flag is? Here's hoping to see a Romania video from you one day...
@@spokbrobut the most population increase can be found in the big cities, such as Tashkent, Samarkand and Namangan, which actually don't look like places with poor population for instance, I am a Tashkent citizen, and my actual income is about 900$, which is not a pretty huge amount of money compared to others' wages.
Simple: Kazakhstan decided that having hope in the future, not support degeneracy, women as superior to men and patriotism is the right path and would be good for their country. Now they have a young growing population which will help them go to the future. All other countries with the exception of Central asians in their neighbourhood are doomed.
Knowing 7 of your ancestors is not that difficult. Especially if this tradition goes back centuries, and many Kazakhs keep their genealogy. So, even if another Kazakh loses his genealogy for some reason, he can easily restore it, just remember what kind of family he is from and what the names of his father and grandfather are. Example: if you come from one region of Kazakhstan, then the residents of this region will only ask the name of your grandfather. So, they will already know who you are and where you come from. Each Kazakh genealogy belongs to a specific clan. This genus belongs to one of the “zhuzs”. The common tree is called Alty Alash. The entire genealogy of the Kazakhs originates from those people who stood at the origins of the formation of the Golden Horde (its original name was “Ulug Ulus” - the Great Kingdom). This genealogy was compared with DNA tests and the Pedigree match with DNA was 90%. 7 Ancestors is a conventional name. Because the Prohibition/Taboo on mixing blood only applies to 7 ancestors if they intersect. In fact, many Kazakhs generally have much more ancestry. To know your seven ancestors is the minimum that is necessary for a Kazakh.
I believe we have found another Rorschach test boys. The miracle of Kazakhstan is whatever you want it to be, government policies, pro-natalist culture, flourishing economy, patriarchy, feminism, religiosity, secularism, they'll all do. Btw i don't know anything about Kazakhstan but already from the flag it seems a cool country, best wishes from Italy
Kazakhs are aware of their decline during the 20th century and it's a cultural perogative to increase their numbers to stave of Russian irredentism. At least that's what Kazakhs in Prague have told me while drunk...
Hm, interesting. Isn't Kazakhstan a Russian ally? I remember Putin helping the Kazakh government to supress some riots before the Ukranian war. And other instances of cooperative behavior. What do the Kazakhs think about the kazakh-russian relationship right now?
@@Tk-mj1cl kazakhs generally hate putin and russian government. Also kazakhs are aware of colonization from tzarist era and famine committed in communist era. While between russians from Kazakhstan there is a big divide. Some russians support invasion to Ukraine and some russians are against the invasion.
As a Kazakh I will say that this is the opinion of nationalists and "westerners". If Kazakhstan remains a neutral state, there will be no threat from the Russian Federation. This was also true for Ukraine. Literally all post-Soviet countries that either co-operated with Russia or remained neutral are experiencing an economic boom. Rather than the "Westerners" in the form of Moldova, Ukraine and partly Georgia. It is good to have farsighted people in the government.
Tbf the demographic comeback also involved out migration of ethnic groups like the Germans and Russians, along with immigration of Kazakhs from other parts of the USSR.
I am touched by this video ) First RealLifeLore, now KaiserBauch, my country is experiencing some kind of Rennaissance ))) As a child-free (sorry to say that such exist in KZ too) educated Kazakh woman, have to say, you are very motivating to get it on and produce some little Kazakh sapiens ) Seriously though, have to say it’s true about there being practically no difference in the per-woman averages as regards to education level. I have some cousins that have 5 kids! And just generally it is quite observable in society. Thanks to my compatriot Nurali as well, you advised well! Very well-done video, and seriously it does more to stirring feelings of patriotism than any government-led efforts could.
I thought the 4b movement was taking hold in KZ due to that government worker unalived his wife a few years ago. I've already seen a few Kazakh tiktok channels promoting 4b in your country. For the record I am American who has been to KZ three times and loved it
@@harpsdesire4200здравствуйте , тот случае никак не характеризует мой Казахстан. У нас женщины довольно сдержанные и спокойные и в душе религиозные. А это жертва Салтанат, жена того самого чиновника , насколько мне известно имела большую зависимость от алькоголя и наркотиков как и её муж. У них за всё время брака и детей не было , что неестественно для Казахстана как и здоровых отношений. С уважением Казах.
@@Куаныш-ч8с it doesn't matter, the fact that the internet exists and everyone in every country including yours has a smartphone means it's already over. Kazakh women have been exposed to this ideology and the cats out of the bag. Wasn't there a feminist march in Almaty a few years ago? The ideas are there they just need time to sprout. I don't say this with contempt for disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing, I want Kazakhstan to succeed and grow, but that's simply not the reality. I give it about 5 years to a decade before the birth rates and not only your country but the rest of Central Asia tank like they are in Korea or Japan. Except this time it'll be even worse since the population is much lower in this region.
@@harpsdesire4200 that's a bot, so please don't bother explaining anything. The murderer's family is quite rich to have these bots on every platform looking for comments just like yours. She was not alcoholic nor was she abusive. We are not blaming the victim here in the country. Regarding the birth rates, it's not quite right to compare my country to Korea and Japan, since they are decades ahead of us, and the cultural aspect is quite different. I would give it at least another generation for rates to plummet and mindset to shift towards something else than family upbringing.
"Let us begin with this evident fact: Muscovy does not belong at all to Europe, but to Asia. It follows that judging Muscovy and the Muscovites by our European standards is a mistake to be avoided."-gonzague de reynold, 19501 In methodological terms, one should de-Europeanise any analysis of Muscovy policy.- thomas gomart, 20062 "
The irony is your statement isn't that far from reality. Throughout the 20th century the russians tried real hard to colonize Kazakhstan. But you need people to colonize a land. And as the russian demographics was running out of steam their goals of turning Kazakhstan into yet another Ural or Siberia turned untenable. Since 1991 millions of russian colonists left Kazakhstan. And our strong demographics makes the process of decolonization irreversible.
@@traumvonhaiti Our? Your Kazakh? Nice, would like to visit your beatiful country this is coming from a Palestinian. The Steppe, the mountains if you have, the plains all of it looks cool and your Muslim thats also great its a common factor. Keep being a great country, hopefully some of my arab brethren can take a note.
@@adamradziwill I dont care Russians are European, I am saying this from a middle eastern btw. They are basically Europeans but cold (literally cold look at where they live) and poorer on average.
@@hishamalaker491Europeans traditionally apply to residents of Western Europe who are Romans, but to Eastern Europeans the term Europeans is not traditionally used and this applies to Russians and other Slavs
@@save_sudan_and_palestine I have literally seen two women wearing burqas today in the north in the least religious region of Kazakhstan 🙃It’s a quite rare sight but I still think having seen 0 burqas in one’s life as a Kazakh is either some unusual luck or an overexaggeration.
The GDP per capita states are irrelevant because the money comes from oil, and the revenues from that go to the rich. So if my neighbour is a millionaire, and I earn 0, our GDP per capita is 500k each 😂
@@АлишерОрынбек-б8дIn Kazakhstan local budget is decided upon by central government. In western Kazakhstan only engineers and oil company management make big bux. The average worker is no better off than in the rest of Kazakhstan.
I'm Kazakh. I was born and raised in Kazakhstan. I live in Kazakhstan now. I will live in Kazakhstan and I hope that I will die in Kazakhstan. I love my people and know our history. However, I have been thinking about the issue of high birth rates in my country for a whole year. And I still haven't found a comprehensive answer. In theory, as urbanization increases, the birth rate falls. This is a universal law for everyone. Urbanization, technocratization, feminism, atomization, materialism, modernity, postmodernity. We have all this and it is getting stronger. Yes, we have less feminism than in Europe, but believe me, it is highly developed here. Our women are much freer than in Arab countries. So why are we growing? There are many factors here: 1) Genetic memory of our suffering. Over the past 300 years, our people have had too many disasters. Disasters that killed approximately half of the entire population each. Our people have some kind of BIOLOGICAL feeling that there should be more of us. People even have exact numbers, which are approximately the same for most people. We should have a population of 40-50 million, compared to the current 20 million. There should have been so many of us if not for the catastrophes of the last 200-300 years. 2) Fear of neighbors. Russia and China. Large empires that are not right in the head. And who have zero humanism towards small nations both in their own country (War against Chechen separatism in Russia, Uyghur re-education camps in China.) and on their borders (War in Georgia, war in Ukraine, Taiwan). We understand with our skin that if they attack us, they will most likely conquer us. But to conquer does not mean to enslave. The stronger our patriotism and the higher our numbers, the more expensive it will be to control us. However, these are superficial factors. This is not enough. We need to go deeper. 1) Family. Kazakhs and all of Central Asia are very family-oriented regions. Family, family and more family. Family is extremely important 2) Sacralization of fertility. Children are of utmost importance. Super significant. Without children, much of the meaning of life is lost. This is especially felt when your native language is Kazakh, not Russian. The language itself literally cultivates people's love for children. And the importance of fertility. It's hard to explain, but it's true. In Central Asian cultures, the importance of children is deeply ingrained. In principle, you can stop there, but it would be a mistake. We need to dig even deeper. 1) Optimism for the future. We believe that everything will be fine with us. Although we clearly see that the whole world is in crisis and the next 30-50 years will be very bad all over the world. But it will be good later, right? Where does this optimism come from? Rather, it is a cultural factor; we have experienced the most terrible thing before. It shouldn't be so hard now and in the future. Naive? Yes. 2) Harmony of religions and ethnic groups. We are very proud of our hospitality and we are probably in the top 10 countries in the world with the highest inter-ethnic and inter-confessional harmony. We are all friends with each other. This creates a comfortable living environment. But that's not all. There are countries that have the same parameters as above, but they have a low birth rate. There's something else. 1) Vision of the future. Project of the future. Kazakhstan knows where it is going. There will be more of us, we will become richer. This is the desired plan. Perhaps we will expand the borders, but this will only be in 40+ years, when Russia will completely weaken, and we will become strong and numerous. And the annexation of territories will be a very soft, organic and creeping process. With no blood. 2) Roots of the past. Kazakhs are restoring their history. This knowledge gives strength. The nomads and all of Central Asia have a great and dramatic history. Here we get to the heart of the matter. This is of course just my theory. But my Kazakh heart tells me that I am right. All of Central Asia and Mongolia are gradually strengthening their connection with Eternity and Infinity. Time and Space. Let me explain. A person cannot live without transcendental meanings. Without higher meanings, to put it simply. Meanings that are greater than ordinary human life. These meanings should connect a person with Eternity and Infinity. In this case, time and space are each divided into two more parameters. Time is divided into Past and Future. The space is divided into the Inner world and the Outer world. It turns out 4 pillars. 1) Past 2) Future 3) Inner world 4) Outside world At the same time, all 4 pillars are endowed with sacredness and spiritualized. We have a soul and the whole world around us is full of living souls. If all these 4 pillars are strong, then we have living faith. Or organic faith. If organic faith is strong, then children are born. Organic faith is not identical to Religion, it is different. Previously, the closest thing to organic faith was paganism. Belief in the spirits of ancestors (the Past), sacred education of children, as well as the most significant holiday - these are the holidays of Fertility (Future), the spirits of nature (Outer World), the complex nature of the human soul (Inner World). The stronger the organic faith, the healthier the society. The less depression and other social illnesses it has. I haven’t dug deeper yet, I feel like I’m still missing something. An important point is that in organic faith, the Past and Future are primarily viewed through biology. Ancestors and descendants. In general, organic faith is very...biological in nature. A kind of spiritualized, sacralized... biology. We are part of nature, but at the same time we have the mind, will and soul to realize, spiritualize and sacralize our biological task as a biological species. It doesn’t sound very divine, but it is most effective in terms of fertility and survival in the long term. The current descendants of the nomads of the Great Steppe and the inhabitants of Central Asia have just such an organic faith.
>s we will expand the borders, but this will only be in 40+ years, when Russia will completely weaken, and we will become strong and numerous. And the annexation of territories will be a very soft, organic and creeping process. With no blood. ? why would kazakhstan expand? don't they already have too much territory?
The Borat effect 😂 Jokes aside, best wishes to Kazakhstan from Georgia. Would seem kinda wild to an outsider but we were the same country not too long ago.
Aren't turkey & kazakhstan the only two regions located almost completely in asia that are eligible to join the european union based on the fact that a part of each of them is inside the geographical boundaries designated for european mainland? With that in mind, it doesn't feel like a random coincidence that both of them ended up getting covered by your analytical essays somehow.
I think family plays an important role here. When the West and East Asia modernised, the family culture gradually changed and people start to value a family less and less and start to focus on themselves. Now whether this is something good or bad is another debate but I think that familz culture is an important factoe here
And beautiful Kazakh women. Kazakhs are Eurasians. It is the country where Europe and Asia meet , so we look like a sort of mixture of these two races.
Fact check: cousin marriages are not widely practiced in the country because it is forbidden by Kazakh national tradition to intermarry within 7 generations. It is an absolute taboo. So I hope you could do your research more thoroughly.
So cool that you made this video because just a few weeks ago I was looking into the demographics of Kazakhstan and was intrigued by how well they seem to be doing. The best post Soviet state when it comes to fertility by a long shot.
I'm looking forward to a video on the Chechens and North Caucasians, whom have the highest birth rates in Russia. Specifically even more so the unique diaspora of Circassians, who have large populations in Turkey, Israel, Syria, and elsewhere. They have strict tribal clan affiliations even in modern times, often living insular preventing marriages with outsiders.
@@belstar1128 Almost extinct? There are over 5 million Circassians in the world. Chechens are a few million. They are more religious and have fertility rates around 3. Don’t forget the Ingush and Dagestanis.
@@VainakhQuranitesCircassians in Turkey are nearly completely assimilated. Only some elders speak their native language. Without the diaspora in Turkey there are just 2 million Circassians left
@@Kickboxer7267 The language is declining in Turkey, but not so in other diaspora countries. In Turkey, there are several Circassian organizations keeping the culture and norms alive. It’s the language that’s hardest to maintain. It’s an uphill battle and the best course of action is for Circassians to return home.
It wasn't a famine caused by attempts to bring kazakh people into the collective farming system, it was a genocide. Ukrainians and kazakhs were the most large ethnicities in the Soviet union after russians, which posed a threat to soviets. Decreasing their population was beneficial for soviets trying to strengthen their power. Ukrainians have no problem with agriculture and collective farming, yet they still suffered from famine.
Очень странно что вы забываете об оралманах, которые по сути были баями и они увели огромное количество скота за границу, а советское правительство знала об общем количестве скоте и пыталось выполнить план, забирая последнее у казахов. Наверное надо быть более объективными, когда кто то говорит только с одной точки зрения это становится пропагандой.
Возможно если бы они не увели бы скот, не было бы нужды отбирать последнее у народа? И не было бы таких потерь, но всю вину воздагают только на СССР, хотя тут и наша бай постарались.
I think the x factor is the "endogamous communitarian family structure" that creates a family unit that is less predisposed to interact with the broader society. So it maintained more traditional roles. In the meantime the exogamous communitarian is very "father dependant" so once the fathers role declines the rest of the structure just falls apart, and that's what happened in eastern europe and Russia.
But Kazakhstan has the exogamous variant. I agree that having a lot of support from other family makes it easier for a mother to raise children. But women being able to choose their husbands rather than being forced to marry their cousins might also be a factor. I think another part of the difference is that Kazakhstan is focused on building things, not playing status games with university degrees and so on. The most status conscious city, the "hipster city" as KB called it, has the lowest fertility. I agree that if Kazakhstan goes to the "neolocal nuclear family" structure (newly married couples move away from their families, for work or whatever), like other rich countries, then fertility will collapse.
@@PowerSimplified1871Uzbeks are a diverse bunch, there are Uzbeks that can trace their origin to traditional nomadic tribes which are the same as Kazaks. But majority of them are of sedentary farming extraction which was Farsi / Tajik speaking and was superficially turkified only in the last 100-150 years,and is culturally close to Middle East sedentary populations, which is endogamous.
I have heard that this is mainly the case, because certain clan structures are still intact. Young people have access to many, especially older, relatives, who are helping to raise kids.
Yes. Good or bad, but you are never alone in Kazakh society. You’re always supported by and responsible to your family and extended family as well. We don’t even have equivalent word for western - cousin. We only have - brother/sister. You’d hardly see any homeless person in Kazakhstan.
The key reasons absolutely do not stem from traditional families or communities, and certainly not from patriarchy. Otherwise, East Asia wouldn't have ended up the way it is today. 1.In East Asia, grandparents are definitely willing to help take care of children, often providing substantial financial support as well. 2.Even as traditional extended families break down, East Asian couples can still count on support from both sets of grandparents, which can at least help in raising two children. Kazakhstan's fertility rate exceeding 3 may indeed rely on support from traditional extended families, but first and foremost, Kazakhstan must overcome the obstacles faced by East Asia, whatever they may be. Traditional and conservative family cultures might marginally aid Kazakhstan's fertility, but they cannot be absolute factors.
Religion, as well as educational and work culture also play a role. Firstly, Kazakhstan does not have such a intense education system that does not basically force parents to spend a huge amount of money on private tutoring for their kids. They don’t work very long hours to the point of barely being able to see your children if you even bother to have them. Finally religion, Kazakhs are Muslim with Islam heavily emphasising large families, in contrast to largely irreligious East Asia
@@thomasgrabkowski8283 Yes, that's exactly what I was thinking too. I've seen discussions about how traditional family cultures supposedly boost birth rates, but I think these traditions are largely religious in nature. It is that Islam encourages Kazakhs to have children, which is something not found in East Asia. Also, of course, traditional East Asian practices in certain aspects actually encourage family planning instead, which likely don't exist among Kazakhs.
Islam doesn’t emphasize large family per se. It does however emphasize strictly defined gender roles, so men are expected to be men and women - to be women. That helps to sustain the traditional family
@@АлишерОрынбек-б8д You are on point. Islam plays a much stronger role in reinforcing gender differences. Although the video mentioned extensive education for women during the Soviet era, Kazakh women perhaps still face significant societal pressures to fulfill traditional reproductive roles, rather than focusing more on pursuing their careers like women in East Asia do.
It's all about culture. You can view the same demographic dynamics in all Central Asian countries (which are culturally close). Kazakhstan just happens to be the wealthiest one.
@@nurzhan3269 In numbers, yes. Just like Kazakhstan & Kyrgyzstan. Population pyramids for both are pretty similar, and explain this phenomenon excellently. Now, in reproduction behavior terms there's no evidence that anything is declining.
@@nurzhan3269 Еу бауырым біздерде де, өзбектерде де фертилити рейты төмендейіп жатыр ғой. Ол белгілі әрбір миі бар адамға. Тоқсаныншы жылдарының жас пирамидасына қарап алшы
My opinion on what saves a demography is the secure future of women. A rational human being will want to make sure that a decent living standard is secured after retirement and in high age. This can be secured by a multitide of measures, which is why it is hard to pin it to a specific trait or policy. Kazakhstan seems to have the benefit of strong family values, so a woman will be taken care of her family later, therefore she can focus on what feels best to her and that is usually having children. In the west, family values are weak, there is no stigma against divorce or for children to make their own choices and focus on their own nuclear family, so women have to make preparations for their future. Retirement plans are usually based on personal economic success so women choose to focus on their career, which makes getting children only a hindrance. Even if they married a rich man, if he divorces them and made beneficial marriage contract for him, the ex-wife will be left with a hole in her retirement plan. What would therefore save the demography in the west would be a large pension benefit for each child a woman raises and not a single large payment at birth or during raising them, as many people propose.
Also in some western nations the woman can just decide to get bored and get a divorce and half of the mans entire wealth. Not a very enticing proposition for men to get married.
@@Hasanaljadid well if u consider alcohol drinking, dont praying fove times, women not wearing hijab and people not caring about halal products than yes Kazakhstan is muslim.
@@trueordrueAlcohol drinking is lower in Kazakhstan then anywhere in Europe and mostly consumed by russians. Kazakhs almost never eats pork and mostly eats halal meats.Being Muslim Doesn't mean every aspect of life is governed by Islam.Many Kazakhs are religious too
17:24 wearing burqa type of hijab is never widely practised by nomadic (like Kazakhs ans Kyrgyses) or rural women, its more like urban type of hijab. Even in Turkey one of the hot topic of feminism debates in late 1800's and early 1900's is "why urban ladies cant enjoy freedom of rural women, why hijab rules executed for urban ladies are more strict than rural?" Because nomadic or rural women must work outside the house, in fields or in animal herd so in these places traditinaly hijabs of the women were more light. A woman in burqa cant do these tasks freely.
I must say as an urbanised educated relatively-higher-income 4+ children household that there are significant stress points in maintaining this system, atleast in our case. The combinations of conservative and westernised family, work stress, education requirements, western media forms create a complicated mix. I feel that the current main driver of the growth is the generation that exited Soviet Union (in childhood) and the government policies + good environment. This growth seems so natural to me but I have no idea if it will be maintained
You'd rather not to take GDP per capita as a major metric for population's wealth. Usually in post-soviet countries, income from natural resources goes to the political center and is distributed from there to the provinces. So, people who live in resources-rich regions get almost nothing from it
@@HasanaljadidIt really isn’t, especially considering how heavily Kazakh extraction industries rely on foreign companies and workers. For example, I would argue that Tatarstan gets far more out of it’s resources than atyrau or especially mangistau oblasts.
I wish Kazakhs good luck and best future! Greetings from Germany. I hope they will be free of russian influence some day which will bring Kazakhstan wealth and new development perspectives.
As a Georgian, I'd love to watch. Here we have a curious case of somewhat recovered, about replacement-level fertility (after disastrous 90s and early 00s) but huge emigration (incl. but not limited to ethnic minorities migrating to their titular nation-states) causing the population to decline with each national census. Reasons, I think, are that our region and geopolitics are highly volatile, our economy is hopelessly shit and despite our (on surface level) religiosity and conservatism we are still hit with negative effects of modernization (women in education and workforce, increasing urbanization etc). Furthermore, these had somewhat limited Georgian fertility even during the last 10-15 years of USSR, compared to our neighbors in Armenia and Azerbaijan.
@@VisiblyPinkUnicorn Please don't remind me of our political scene. One more reason out of a thousand in Georgia to get shitfaced drunk and try and forget it exists at all.
16:12 this actually kinda makes sense: Oil drilling produces more revenue, but it doesn't mean that the region it takes place in necessarily directly benefits from it, with actual money from said activities flowing towards economic centers of the country, but the region itself staying fairly rural. Another example of that is Russia and it's oil producing regions: they produce a lot of revenue, but the actual population there is still fairly rural.
@@vmoses1979 yea, but it's mean that kaiserbauch wrong about "wow look at that, they are rich, educated, and having high fertility" in fact in kazakhstan no one conventional theory was debunked. regions with high fertility is very rural, VERY conservative and religious. in almaty(last capital) there are 1.9 children per woman. its including religious people. secular educated woman in kazakhstan have around 2 kids and it's decreasing. and there is point that secular-educated woman in kazakhstan will be consider as conservative in europe.
@@vmoses1979 in kazakhstan there are no secular-liberals in west definition. there are ultra-conservatives(in african-middle eastern way) with fertility around 4.5 and "secular people" that is similar to american conservatives. with fertility 2 when kaiserbauch telling that kazakhstan is example of secular educated country that broke all fertility forecasts - it's funny, cuz it's not. dry tables from wikipedia is without context...
Can you do a video on Latin America or Southeast Asia next? Many countries in those regions have gone under sub replacement and I’m very curious how they’re development will be affected in the future
Russians did ethnic cleansings in 1916, 1920, 1930. They also used our lands for nuclear weapon tests in 1950-1980. Used syrdariya river for cotton and rice, which led our aral lake to dry out. Soviets also did tselina land reform which led to massive soil erosions in 1960. So after our independence, we are getting to our limits population, since thankfully to the antisoviet nato alliance soviet union disbanded.
Indeed, flats are relatively cheap compared to Europe or rich Asian countries. Generally two-three bedroom apartment in Astana costs 3-4 times cheaper than in Belgium
I am Kazakh, unfortunately a big portion of our women is getting more and more westernized and feminist, however, in the other hand, there’s another trend that some of our women of 15-30 age category getting more religious and started wearing hijab and even niqab. So it’s kinda interesting situation.
@@timkaz8793 The more westernized women just won't make kids, or just a single one. The problem will solve itself in time, and you have the most of it. As long as you know what kind of cultural patterns to avoid, you'll be fine. I'm envious.
It might simply be a product of randomness. Modernity-induced fertility decline is quite a universal feature, but it's not impossible that there might be exceptions, that is, populations who do not react to modernity by adopting maladaptively low fertility. It's similar to how there are still some individuals who choose to have 4+ children even when exposed to a modern environment even among western native populations. This is likely explained by individual psychological variation, and since groups are collections of individuals, this variation can also apply on a group level.
Randomness? You should explain this randomness across other Central Asian countries then. Kazakhstan just happens to be the wealthiest one. But if you look at how people live, Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan aren't that different at all.
By randomness I meant there might be some unique psychological features among the Kazakhs (and maybe also other Central Asians) that we do not know of which make them more resistant to modernity-induced decadence. If we are unable to find definite cultural factors that explain their abnormally high fertility, as was the conclusion of this video, then what I proposed seems like the most plausible explanation.
@@internetuser2721 Don't be ridiculous. I am Kazakh. There are no unique psychological features among among us. We are just as human as all the other humans on the planet. It's all about our culture/mentality which is passed down to us from our parents. That's how we are brought up. Unfortunately KB didn't go deep into this topic. But you can read some comments by the Kazakhs under this video which give a glimpse into our culture and mentality.
@@traumvonhaiti What explains this culture/mentality that incentivizes them to have 4 children instead of 0 or 1? Why has it persisted in Kazakhstan but not in almost any other country? If we lived in 1900, you could easily say that most western people are extremely family oriented, whereas nowadays they are degenerates. I've no doubt westerners in 1900 also "passed down their family values onto the next generation", but that didn't prevent the cultural sterility from emerging nonetheless. So something explains why this shift has not taken place in Kazakhstan as opposed to much of the modern world.
@@bertrecht913 hmm, why people would say "black head" about Kazakhs? I could imagine something more rude or something more funny but that are you saying doesn't make sense for me
As a Kazakh, I admit that you did a tremendous research and portrayed the situation pretty well. Nevertheless, I would like to make couple of notes: 1) The west of Kazakhstan is relatively more traditional and nationalistic than the east. While it's true that the South is more traditional than the West of Kazakhstan, the West's Kishi Júz people follow more strictly kazakh traditions and face marriage more seriously, especially in rurban areas. Aqtau is our Oil capital that makes the majority of the GDP of the region, otherwise rurban areas are relatively poor. 2) 14:56 it is Shymkent, not Shykment You made a really informative video. I learnt a lot about the reasons of our demographic miracle. Thank you!
Not to mention the massive immigration of ethnic Kazakhs from adjacent countries after gaining independence, that significantly contributed to the increase of native Kazakh population. These Kazakhs usually come from lands that used to be a part of Kazakh Khanate, or descendants оf people fleed to other countries due to communist repression and famine. According to statistics, approximately 20% of Kazakhstani population was born in foreign countries. Majority of them moved from Uzbekistan, China and Mongolia. There are still about 3 million ethnic Kazakhs living outside of Kazakhstan.
I’m from Western Europe and live in Kazakhstan right now, and it’s a truly amazing country if you have kids. I’ve got two children and whenever we go into a restaurant there are play areas for the kids. There are parks and playgrounds everywhere. It’s so nice to walk around the city and see families with lots of kids. The future belongs to those who show up, and westerners and East Asians aren’t showing up.
Interesting
Wrong.
Climate change will obliterate global agriculture, especially in the global South, causing mass famine and billions of climate refugees to flood into the global north. We will be forced to transition to indoor growing techniques like the Dutch are developing now, except that this will be immensely energy intensive, causing humans to use even more fossil fuels.
Furthermore, automation is making the majority of people permanently unemployable. As in, by the end of the century and almost certainly sooner than that, there will be absolutely no task that a machine can't perform infinitely better than a human, except maybe have sex, but even there, it's possible I'm wrong.
Ageing and all other diseases will be cured and humans will essentially become technologically capable of achieving biological immortality.
The task of this century's politics is to ensure that the infinite wealth and technological omnipotence are democratized among the masses, and that animals are also liberate from suffering, instead of letting billionaires create a howling eternal hell on earth where they rape and torture the rest of us to death for fun, before cloning new slaves to torture and rape to assuage their intolerable boredom.
Nope 4b movement is already starting there
I preferred it when the death cultists went on about the imminent return of Christ rather than making up predictions about the weather.
@@harpsdesire4200 What the hell is a 4b movement?
Kazakhs have the most strict cousin marriages taboo. One cannot marry any 7th cousin, meaning no common ancestors in 7 generations. Kazakhs also have sophisticated genealogy traditions allowing to comply with the taboo. When I was a student I met a girl, when began dating her I asked what ancestry she has. After finding out her both parents belong to the same ancestry as my parents have (the same medieval clans) and they lived in the same region as my grandfather, I changed her number in my phone to "sister" and we still remain very good friends. "Kazakh style friendzone"
Personally, I think 7 generations is a bit of an overkill. I know that 2nd and 3rd cousins is a certain No-go zone, but beyond that the chance of genetic deviations are same as background. So, essentially it was Esim khan's decision to politically tie up Kazak tribes together by banning intra-tribal marriages, that ruined your date 😄
@@ratzpat6710 Zhetï ata is certainly the most strict rule in Kazakh traditions. That is true, Yesim (Esim) khan's old ways was a cornerstone set of laws that cemented the Kazakh people identity. Yes, the traditions recommend to marry women from different clans but not just for nationbuilding, but also for genetic reasons. A very good negative example is early Ghengizids who always married women from the same family, the same clan, of the Khongirats. This meant they formally kept no-cousin marriage taboo on male lineage but were repeatedly marrying cousins on female lineage. Oelun was an aunt to Borte. The Kazakh tradition to avoid marriages of the same clan females ensures no cousins marriages on female line
7 generations? This is just impossible. Who and how do you think were keeping such accurate genealogy long before DNA testing for whole population of nomads? No one.
@chachachi-hh1ks you can listen to podcasts by zhaksylyk. He is a historian who is also well versed in studies of kazakh genetics. He says our nomadic culture is the reason, most things were kept around by word of mouth whilst books were kept for more ancient history. Hence you get this constant remembering of ancestorial lineages. I am Kazakh the more I grow the more I become a traditional Kazakh in this specific way. I wanna learn more about lineages, regional cultures, know my ancestry. For example I am from Argyn tribe, of his son Kuandyk. I think I can trace my lineage potentially all the way back to him.
@@chachachi-hh1ks memorising seven male ancestors of a single male lineage is actually not so difficult. Memorising all the male and female ancestors in seven generations is indeed nearly impossible. I can name seven male lineage ancestors and all the female and male ancestors in four generations including their subethnic affiliations. My male lineage ancestry also belongs to Argyn sub-ethnic group Atygay clan that began from Qarakhodja bey of the Golden horde
Fun fact:
In Kazakh we have saying - “I’m Kazakh, I died and rose back a thousand times.”
Intresting thats also the motto of the Turkish armed forces. but we use it as: ''We die as one, we rose thousand'' wonder if there is any connection?
@@kadirbozkus-ss3sm it might be
Although, they never existed before the 16th century. So it's like twice a year.
@@kadirbozkus-ss3smCould be something from deep Turkic roots. We were always outnumbered.
@@themaskedarabrussianWritten form of our language (Turkic) is 1500 years old.
Göktürk Empire and Golden Horde (which subjigated even Russia) is our lineage.
So it’s not twice a year.
It’s every 2-2.5 years 😜
I think the family culture is a huge benefit.
If your recieve help from your parent while starting your own family, and then still go to higher education, that seems to be much conductive for fertility, than being expecter to move out as soon as possible, get higher education, then career, and only then maybe a family of your own.
But that’s what it’s like in East Asia also and they have the lowest fertility rates on earth.
You’re thinking that must be the cause because that’s what it’s like in the west, but there is no connection. It must be something else.
@@Quaristice i didnt say its the only thing. I said its a huge benefit.
@@stanisawzokiewski3308 but it’s of no benefit at all to East Asians so how is it a “huge benefit”?
As a Kazakh let me point out a couple of nuances:
as everything in life, it comes with a cost, where there are rights, there are also responsibilities. When a relative helps you, you are obliged to help them when they need it.
It means you have to give up a part of your life, your privacy, your priorities in favor of helping the (extended) family.
@@traumvonhaiti Makes perfect sense.
Virgin Eastern Europe: Communism has ruined us, our demographic spiral is hurting us and our people won’t have children.
Chad Kazakhstan: Communism is weak, we do not die, we multiply.
I mean... they gotta make up for the population loss during the Kazakh famines of 1930-1933.
@@jostnamane3951Ukraine has never recovered from the famine at the same time
@@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986A less bad famine no less
@@andrewrogers3067 massive deportations resulting in ethnicity losing ties to their roots and moving elsewhere after the collapse of USSR might have something to do with it. If their home communities were a bit more tightly knit or countries could afford it, they could return like Crimean Tatars returned to Crimea, Germans repatriated to Germany, Jews to Israel, Koreans (who were also deported to Kazakhstan) to South Korea. But no. And Ukrainians and Poles are now two ethnicities with huge diaspora in the West, because they had good levels of education to shoot higher with their nations starting out among the poorest in Europe in the 90s
@@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986 The issue with being industrialized, is that that system takes a lot of effort to maintain.
So it is a lot easier ironically to recover from disasters if you are dirt poor than if you now have a built-up area now falling apart and a lot of social obligations you must meet with less people.
Being one of the many Germans who once lived in Kazakhstan and moved to Germany in the 90‘s im happy to see Kazakhstan triving. Thank you for this interesting video and your research!
Мы скучаем по вам , приезжайте в Казахстан , будем рады. 🇰🇿🇰🇿🇰🇿🫂✊
@@Куаныш-ч8с спасибо! я на самом деле я уже давно планирую посетить Казахстан. скорей всего в след. год у меня это получится. очень жду
Much love🇰🇿❤️🇩🇪
@@Куаныш-ч8с спасибо, я на самом деле уже давно хочу посетить Казахстан и места где я росс.
I think you might be moving back to Kazakhstan soon. Soft version of islam in Kazakhstan is more bearable than radical Islam in Germany 🤣
Another reason why Central Asian countries have high fertility, is a fact that grandparents ready to take burden of parenting from young couples. For example when I was born, my parents were in their 20th, and just started their careers. As result my grandparents took me and until start of school i lived with my grandparents. It was same for several of my cousins and friends. Young couple were not forced to chose between parenthood and career. And now one of my cousins who also was raised by grandparents has her own child and her parents are raising her while she and her husband are studying in Germany. It is basically like loan your parent ready to raise your first or second children, while you build your life, but it means that in future you need to repay by raising your oldest grandchildren.
It would definitely help a lot in the current age with the number of elderly growing larger: They already have experience raising a child, usually have time to spare and it gives the young parents some leeway when it comes to taking care of their child themselves
That's the case in Ukraine as well, but it's nowhere near demographically blooming (before war, I mean). That's not the reason.
I'm also grannies' daughter ))))))
This is the only loan that I would love to take
Isn't this how peasant family functioned for centuries? Like its a notorious stereotype in the US atleast, that the elderly rn are rich and bored. Millennial and late gen z are young, poor, and stressed/overworked. I understand it's nieve to this- but I think that this stratification of stress between generations can help foster the fertility replacement rate to a much better position, if elders step up to the plate and help.
The secret is ...
Kazakhstan is the greatest country on the Earth. All other countries are run by little girls...
very nice !
Kazakhstan number one exporter of potassium. All other countries have inferior potassium.
I agree brother. Greetings from Argentina. Your country is amazing
Awawawiwa!
google the most powerful nation you'll get KAZAKH
Israel and Kazahstan are demographic exceptions. Israel is a cube and Kazahstan is rectangle in the countryballs universe while most of the other countries are spheres. Coincidence? I think not!
It's all coming together...😳
Both are non-christian
What do you mean ?
@@АлишерОрынбек-б8д All Muslim countries have lower fertility rate than 20yrs,did you even watched the video?
Dont put this country together please in one sentence, thx
Uzbekistan is another example of this phenomenon:
TFR 2012: 2.34
TFR 2020: 3.06
TFR 2021: 3.27
TFR 2022: 3.40
TFR 2023: 3.50
Economically, it is not as rich as Kazakhstan but not as poor either. The poorest country in Central Asia, Tajikistan, has a stagnant fertility trend. All these Central Asian countries are bucking the global trend. I wonder why?
Afghanistan is the poorest country in central Asia and has the highest fertility rate in Asia 4.3
Я сейчас живу в Узбекистане.
Думаю причины такие:
1)дешевое жилье в деревне. Дети остаются с родителями. Построить +1комнату дешевле чем 1 новый дом.
2)много хорошей и дешевой еды. Ты сможешь прокормить много детей.
3)родственники помогают присматривать за детьми
@@RuslanMusin99
let me translate to English:
I currently live in Uzbekistan.
I think the reasons are as follows:
1. In rural areas, housing is cheap. Children stay with their parents. Adding a room into a preexisting house is cheaper than buying a new home entirely.
2. There exists a lot of good and cheap food, with which you could feed a lot of children.
3. Relatives are involved in looking after children.
@@baha3alshamari152 If you count it as part of Central Asia, then of course. Btw, the 4.3 figure is speculative; we simply don't have proper data for birth rates in Afghanistan at this moment. According to the last nationwide survey conducted by the DHS program in 2015, Afghanistan's fertility rate was 5.3 (2014-2015). According to the Population Reference Bureau, the fertility rate in 2023 is 5.4, which indicates an increase from 2015. Proper adjustments for all years can only be made when there's sufficient evidence.
Religion, that's the secret.
Kazakhstan seems like a really cool country, hope everything goes well for them
thank you. I pray that your country will prosper and grow day by day.
Corruption is biggest problem
Thanks bro❤
@@Coolname-xx1yythats true . I live in a small town in central Kazakhstan and lately there have been appearing loads of billboards about corruption :,(
@@temmie31 can you name it?
As a Kazakh I'd say that "Factor X" is probably confidence in future. Nobody tells us that we will die martyrs and we don't really have any existential threats that general populations is aware of(Other than maybe Islamists from Afghan region, but that might be a stretch), we got no climate catastrophe cults and most people are patriotic and want their country to flourish
Based, how did it happen, why didn't the climate panic and left wing self-hate reach you?
@@gilgameschvonuruk4982I'm not kazakh, but as a citizen of another post-soviet state I would suppose that people from our region are more conservative in general and as I know Kazakhstan had quite authoritarian government which also an important factor.
As it should be.
How is the economical situation there though? gpd seems to be somewhat equal to my country -Türkiye- however most married couples here have though time having more than one children.
@@kadirbozkus-ss3sm
Turks apparently need fertility medication if the average couple have such issues
I can understand few couples suffering infertility problems but shouldn't most be able to have children with normal sex life
Everything I learn about Kazakhstan makes me like it more
I would love to visit it one day
maybe you have to learn about it more. Especially about corruption and nationalism within it.
@@lionelmourilioCorruption is decreasing
@Hasanaljadid but it's still a thing. Even some official reports about population growth turn out to be wrong
@@lionelmourilio I live in Brazil, anywhere else is a improvement.
@@lionelmourilioNo, the growth rates are done by sources outside of Kazakhstan. It’s correct.
In my opinion it’s their culture and positive attitude towards children. They respect women not about her income but amount of children she has
Beshymbayev honest reaction:
Absolutely valid my friend
No , they do not respect women , even if she gave birth. I'm saying as a person who growed up and lives in Kazakhstan
@@karlsagan6183just shut up woke feminist.😊
I recommend the Japanese manga 'A Bride's Tale' which is set in historical central Asia and contains a lot of information about the culture, dress and social systems that are not widely available in English. It also has some of the most beautiful art, as the author has a very keen eye for detail and an intricate style.
I love the manga! It's so cool that a japaneese mangaka is some enthnologic freak like I 😂 He/She Just covering diferent region.
Greating from PL ^_^
Altair: A Record of Battles and Maria the Virgin Witch are also detail-savvy depictions of history in semi-fictionalized settings, going through some historically significant progressions, like the Lutheran reformation.
The author is female, she also made Emma, a romance about a Victorian maid, which shows a great deal of love towards my culture and country.
@@vorynrosethorn903 I read that manga for a while. It is very beautiful indeed.
nice
I am from Kazakhstan and i think u missed 2 points:
1.The mass immigration of ethnic Kazakhs after the independence from countries like China, Uzbekistan, Mongolia, Kyrgyzstan
e.t.c
They tend to be a lot more conservative and have high f.r.
2.The government encourages birth rate, by giving women money depending how many children they have
It was still a good video, thanks from Kazakhstan 🇰🇿👍
Тек ақшаға ғана қарамайды, ондай болса басқа да ақша беретін елдер де көп туар еді
@@samalaimukhametova7290 Бұл да бала туу санының өсуіне ықпал етіп жатыр емес пе? Мысалы Қытай сияқты елдерде керісінше баланы аз табуға ынталандырады, бізде керісінше.
Plenty of other governments, specially in Europe, also encourage birth rates with subsidies, but they had a very limited effect on their birth rates.
Bro, the allowance for children is minuscule and consist of one time payment followed by monthly payments until child is 12 months old. Combined they ALMOST cover the cost of diapers. I can guarantee that this allowance has no effect on the fertility rate,
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I got your reference, and I am disappointed because no one got the reference before me
This fertility rate goes very hard
i love women so much its unreal
family structure and close bonds to relatives, child care costs aren't really costs. clothing, child toys and equipment are all gifted or passed from family to family for reuse. people also give significant cash gifts for newborn babies 4 times until they turn 7years: 1 day - cash, 40 days - cash, 1 year - cash, 1 first school day -cash, cumulatively it does cover a lot of the fixed costs of having a baby.
Thanks Nurali for giving information to Kaiserbauch. 👏
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Babe wake up x2 your favorite Czech launched a new video about my home country XD
hes Czech?!? i tought he's German!
@@oooshafiqooo same thing really
@@gdup1728waiting for Czech Empire
@@GnosticLuciferCzechs are wanna be slavic Germans lets me honest
It seems more and more people are discovering amazing Kazakhstan. You can really notice that Kazakhstan is something extra. Well backed by numbers and good research in this video.
That Shmykmant at 14:57 gave me goosebumps
Yes, the author should have read it carefully. It’s called Shymkent
Шымкент (Shymkent) is correct.
He even corrected himself in text incorrectly, lol
Шмыкмант, lmao
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I think an "X factor" candidate may be the population density in comparison to livable area, where Kazakhstan is hilariously underpopulated. It's steppes may not be prime real estate, but by comparison to Canada and Australia, both largely inhospitable wastelands, it's downright heavenly.
It may not usually be such a prominent factor in demographics development in the 21st century, but when the disparity is so stark...
Look at the population density map of Kazakhstan. It is more similar to australia than you think. Most people live in the south near or in the fergana valley. Or in the north where climate is more mild. Central kazakhstan is deserts, mountains or steppe, not very livable.
@@gairionysten3188 Dunno, maybe. I haven't checked how the density map compares to the nearby countries either, so maybe it's not such a relevant factor. I do think the question of whether having pre-industrial levels of density can prompt greater fertility even in a modern world is a real one though.
Russia has a much lower population density, but its birthrates suck.
@@communist754 Same problem as Canada.
@@communist754Adjust for uninhabitable areas and its more normal. Most of Siberia is useless for humans.
Kazakhs become from minority to majority💪🏻🔥Good job Kazakhstan👍🏻
Salam from KR🇰🇬
Thank you, bro!
Салам из Ташкента, бро
Салам нашим братьям узбекам и кыргызам. ❤
Миру вашему дому!
Моя мечта ,чтобы вся Центральная Азия процветала, наши добрые и гостеприимные народы этого заслуживают.
@@helloworld-ti5zsMay Allah bless these lands which gave great scholars to the entire Muslim world.
There’s another country I’d love to see you tackle, Iceland. Iceland had a very high fertility rate despite being a rather rich and secular country, going above the replacement rate in the late 80s early 90s, and the 2010s briefly. I was curious why this was the case, and wonder if being an island has anything to do with it, New Zealand also has a solid fertility rate but is far worse than Iceland.
Great idea!
Not anymore,
Iceland 2022: 1.59
New Zealand 2022: 1.66
@@jostnamane3951well, still more than the 1,4 of my country Portugal which is the poorest in western Europe and so I suppose is way much poorer than Iceland. And also by what I know Iceland isn't yet importing hundreds of thousands of Africans and Indians that have much more babies than the natives
@@jostnamane3951You’re talking this current year, I’m talking throughout the decades
It is related to the network of families, being an island of a small isolated ethnicity builds up a tight knitted community bonding in this situation they get enough stability and security to trust in the future. Same happens to close communities all around the world, and that is the reason why Israel has that high fertility rate, basically being a tiny country of many closed communities.
19:00 Sons in Kazakh families traditionally move out, except the youngest son who cares for his parents with his family.
All the inheritance goes to the youngest son. Kazakh families help each other. Some childless couples also (sometimes) care for their nephews or something. I was living with my childless uncle for a few years, for example.
And if there's only one son?
I guess I'm the youngest son even though I'm a daughter. My siblings are enjoying their individual life and I have to help the family and have no life of my own. But yay inheritance.
@@maxh7637stay and care for the parents
As a person from Kazakhstan, who noticed that's trends as well, I can probably add a few things to this video as well.
First of all, kazakhstan is a country with a high level of external migration between regions. Especially between rural and city areas, due to collapse of ussr and immigration of skill labor, many jobs been opened in the cities, and even more in the next year's, due to economic boom. It reminds me of a first wave of industrial revolution situation, when cities grow rapidly, due to external migration from the rural areas.
Culturally speaking, I would also noted about high levels of interethnic marriages, between different cultures, especially in the North. Despite Being somewhat downlooked by the older members of a kazakh family, it greatly contributed to assimilation amd cultural integration of a different ethnic groups in the cities. This trend also somewhat contributed to secularism ane high knowledge of Russian language, because in the era of russian speaking majority in the population, high interethnic marriages also been a thing.
And the last is, secular behaviour is very high, even in the somewhat religious families, due to differences in Islam between orthodox arabic version, and a local one, witch been greatly influenced by the nomadic traditions, and so less strict in many regards.
I agree Kazakhstan should assimilate ethnic minorities,especially Russians, so that they don't feel marginalized, because otherwise they would want to join Russia
@@shk439first at all Kz should ban all ruzzian medias and "NGOs" to prevent Crimea scenario on north. Our authority just have ignored literally hundreds of "NGOs", that have been gaslighting russian speakers into victim mindset while irl they are imperial settlers
@@maksimfedoryakuh, no?
Speaking as a northern kazakh who lives in a city, where half of population is russian, there are no real supporters of "returning to Russia" or whatever. Plenty of people, especially young ones, are supportive of Ukraine, including Russians. Or they think that the war is ultimately pointless violence. Even older people really just support Russia's cause, without wanting to join them.
It's just pointless, and it'd threaten the good and stable relations with our big neighbour, that might leave us closer to China in exchange.
@@PretzelsWithSalt there are no such a thing as "good relationship" with empire. You are just valuable, as hub between western and ruzzian market, but nothing will prevent gaslighting of ruzzian minority into victim mindset in next 5 years
Israelis and Kazakhs have both experienced catastrophic genocides within living memory. Much of their demographic growth is compensatory. “We need to be more numerous” mindset is still prevalent despite the urbanization, economic development, societal atomization, and advancing feminism.
Israel has haredi ultra orthodox Jews otherwise the fertility rate is 2.4 but it's declining too so non Haredim fertility rate will be below replacement rate
Kazakhstan fertility rate will decline in the future but it will take them a lot of time and they can recover from it in case it happens in the future much faster than western countries
Tell that to Greeks and Armenians
@@Hasanaljadid Armenians had quite high fertility till recently and very high emigration. Perhaps Armenia is too small to sustain a large population and that can be a major demographic constraint. But again, as regional peace sets in and Armenia re-orients its foreign policies from Russia to the developed world there should be a strong surge in investment, trade and economic activity, which will improve Armenians livelihoods and provide more room for demographic growth. So it’s a matter of them mending the relationships with neighboring countries, opening borders and transport links, burying the bitter nationalism and getting back to business. Under such a pragmatic approach I see no reason why they wouldn’t prosper.
Greeks? What about them? Theirs is a developed country that has demographically grown as much as it probably could. It’s up to them wether to have more babies or less, no pressure there.
@@baha3alshamari152 sure, in the long run fertility goes down everywhere. Can’t defy gravity. Can’t stop universal entropy. All the great creative energy the patriarchal culture and society accumulated in millennia is blown apart in few decades.
@@Hasanaljadid Contrary to what you might imagine, the Greeks and Armenians never experienced mass destruction; on the contrary, they were spoiled by Christian western values and suffer from the overwhelmed, wounded nationalist syndrome because they did not establish the assertive nation-states with the maximalist borders they dreamed of.
As a Buryat wish all the best to Kazakhs and Kazakhstan, they were lucky to receive an independence during the Soviet collapse unlike us, who are still a colony of Moscow, still under Russian opression and genocide. Hope for Siberian independence one day.
Didn't Buryatia asked to remain under Russian federation during USSR and rejected independence
@@baha3alshamari152 the short answer no, it asked to leave. It even received a status of an independent state in Russian Federation. But there were only 20 percent Buryats, and as other republics, all activities for the further steps of real independence and even what was achieved, quickly was destroyed by Russian KGB
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Sorry but one shouldn’t call the effort that came with blood, sweat and tears simple luck. Independence, especially from USSR considering how many still have left within Russia, is not a luck. It’s decades of fight and perseverance
The difference between Kazakh and Russian approach on having children are huge and mainly caused by the older generation.
For the Russians both from Russia and from Kazakhstan their gold time passed during soviet times. The Russians had the best time during the usssr, and the generation that then experienced the collapse of the socialist state had huge depression after during so called democratic and capitalist era that came after USSR collapse. Those people would raise their children in constant fear of the future and wouldn’t accept the new realities which then led to many depressed families, alcoholism and other similar issues within the nuclear families. The hard times in economy during the 90s didn’t help. Overall the Russian family would consist of one grandmother who would be nostalgic of the past Soviet time, her daughter who married early and had to overcome the difficulties of the 90s and her ex husband who divorced her due to alcohol problems and her only child who she would raise hating the family values
Whereas the Kazakhs had new found hope after the collapse of the USSR, and a common Kazakh family believed that the future only holds the brighter and better times for us as a nation because the soviet times were the worst in Kazakh history. Thus our grandparents were encouraging their children and helping them financially to start families and have more children in hopes that the future generation is the key to build a strong and blooming economy. On top of that our first president was the family type guy who could speak directly to the common folk and in all his speeches he would bring up the demographic issue, in Kazakh language which actually means a lot considering the majority of the government figures were Russian speakers. The president then made a lot of programs that supported the young families and mothers financially and also made a lot of scholarships available for rural children. I think this is the X factor. The hope for better future.
I think it's wrong to even use the GDP numbers from "oil drilling regions" because 99 % of the people there won't get any money from this and it artificially increases the average income. Would be interesting to see how it is different from the mean income.
and you are right. he made a lot of mistakes in that video...
That was exactly my thought. There are few very high paying jobs in the oil sector but the majority of people are on the same level as the rest of the country.
@@jirislavicek9954 Even more likely it's high paying jobs for foreigners, because you don't become a high educated engineer by living in the steps in the most poor part of a country.
@@3komma141592653 Still it's better than nothing. Drilling operations require lot of auxiliary jobs - hospitality, drivers, manual labor, etc.
By my understanding the Kazakh language is young, it only exists in written form since the establishment of the Soviet Union. There is no literature and intellectual heritage in Kazakh language and many technical terms don't exist in it. Technical expertise is mostly thought in Russian in universities, which pushes many Kazakh only speaking students out of the lucrative jobs. At least that was the case until pretty recently. Western companies bring their own experts from the West.
But sales of cars, sale of houses and etc. says other point than what you say. Anyway at some degree you right
Did not have this on my "most likely KaiserBauch next video topic" card! Can we appreciate, besides the good demographics, how beautiful their flag is?
Here's hoping to see a Romania video from you one day...
Uzbekistan is also booming, they increased their birthrates from a low 2.19 in 2012 to 3.17 in 2021.
Central Asia is going well
Uzbekistan can’t be viewed as much of exception since it’s a rather poor country with gdp per capital level lower than Kenya or Nigeria
@@spokbro That still doesnt explain why their fertility rates are going UP rather than down as everyone else
@@spokbro Look at the HDI now. Uzbekistan is much better than that countries.
@@spokbrobut the most population increase can be found in the big cities, such as Tashkent, Samarkand and Namangan, which actually don't look like places with poor population
for instance, I am a Tashkent citizen, and my actual income is about 900$, which is not a pretty huge amount of money compared to others' wages.
Simple: Kazakhstan decided that having hope in the future, not support degeneracy, women as superior to men and patriotism is the right path and would be good for their country. Now they have a young growing population which will help them go to the future. All other countries with the exception of Central asians in their neighbourhood are doomed.
Dude, try to rewrite this. I'm confused as hell from the lack of punctuation marks and general sentence structure. Ergo, not "simple" at all.
It is easy to understand his comment.@@bionmccool
I mean Israel is pro feminist country rather, but has a high fertility
Yea it's just usually that means men are considered superior to women lol
@@Ғаламатадамultra orthodox Jewish families make tons of children, that’s why fertility rate isn’t that bad
Knowing 7 of your ancestors is not that difficult. Especially if this tradition goes back centuries, and many Kazakhs keep their genealogy.
So, even if another Kazakh loses his genealogy for some reason, he can easily restore it, just remember what kind of family he is from and what the names of his father and grandfather are.
Example: if you come from one region of Kazakhstan, then the residents of this region will only ask the name of your grandfather. So, they will already know who you are and where you come from.
Each Kazakh genealogy belongs to a specific clan. This genus belongs to one of the “zhuzs”. The common tree is called Alty Alash. The entire genealogy of the Kazakhs originates from those people who stood at the origins of the formation of the Golden Horde (its original name was “Ulug Ulus” - the Great Kingdom).
This genealogy was compared with DNA tests and the Pedigree match with DNA was 90%.
7 Ancestors is a conventional name. Because the Prohibition/Taboo on mixing blood only applies to 7 ancestors if they intersect. In fact, many Kazakhs generally have much more ancestry. To know your seven ancestors is the minimum that is necessary for a Kazakh.
Also kazakhs have ru(tribe) and you can't marry someone from your ru, which is the same as incest kinda
@@bayas1302 you can marry from your ru if common ancestor exceeds from 7 generations
@@trueordrue nah, bro, it doesn't matter
I believe we have found another Rorschach test boys. The miracle of Kazakhstan is whatever you want it to be, government policies, pro-natalist culture, flourishing economy, patriarchy, feminism, religiosity, secularism, they'll all do.
Btw i don't know anything about Kazakhstan but already from the flag it seems a cool country, best wishes from Italy
Thank you, we do our best to maintain tradition but move forward with time, love to Italy🇰🇿❤️🇮🇹
Thank you for the video. I was the guy who made the comment about unusually good demographics in Kazakhstan.
I hope Kazakhs ban both Russian language and islamist ideologies. They must embrace Kazakh language and traditionalist Tengrism.
Feel like I was banging on about this on your channel for ages
Glad to see a video on this topic!
Kazakhs are aware of their decline during the 20th century and it's a cultural perogative to increase their numbers to stave of Russian irredentism. At least that's what Kazakhs in Prague have told me while drunk...
Before 2022: "that's schizo ramblings"
After 2022: "very wise strategy"
Hm, interesting. Isn't Kazakhstan a Russian ally? I remember Putin helping the Kazakh government to supress some riots before the Ukranian war. And other instances of cooperative behavior. What do the Kazakhs think about the kazakh-russian relationship right now?
@@Tk-mj1cl kazakhs generally hate putin and russian government. Also kazakhs are aware of colonization from tzarist era and famine committed in communist era. While between russians from Kazakhstan there is a big divide. Some russians support invasion to Ukraine and some russians are against the invasion.
As a Kazakh I will say that this is the opinion of nationalists and "westerners". If Kazakhstan remains a neutral state, there will be no threat from the Russian Federation. This was also true for Ukraine. Literally all post-Soviet countries that either co-operated with Russia or remained neutral are experiencing an economic boom. Rather than the "Westerners" in the form of Moldova, Ukraine and partly Georgia. It is good to have farsighted people in the government.
@@Tk-mj1cl Most Kazakhs have atleast some sort of skepticism when it comes to Russia
Thnx man for covering such an interesting topic of my country. Really appreciate it
Maybe Europeans could learn something from the Kazakh demographic comeback
Going from 30% to 70% in 2 generations is insane
Tbf the demographic comeback also involved out migration of ethnic groups like the Germans and Russians, along with immigration of Kazakhs from other parts of the USSR.
I am touched by this video ) First RealLifeLore, now KaiserBauch, my country is experiencing some kind of Rennaissance ))) As a child-free (sorry to say that such exist in KZ too) educated Kazakh woman, have to say, you are very motivating to get it on and produce some little Kazakh sapiens ) Seriously though, have to say it’s true about there being practically no difference in the per-woman averages as regards to education level. I have some cousins that have 5 kids! And just generally it is quite observable in society. Thanks to my compatriot Nurali as well, you advised well! Very well-done video, and seriously it does more to stirring feelings of patriotism than any government-led efforts could.
I thought the 4b movement was taking hold in KZ due to that government worker unalived his wife a few years ago. I've already seen a few Kazakh tiktok channels promoting 4b in your country. For the record I am American who has been to KZ three times and loved it
@@harpsdesire4200 current president of K-stan is allegedly a globalist. all sorts of "human-haters" are coming out of woodwork the past few years
@@harpsdesire4200здравствуйте , тот случае никак не характеризует мой Казахстан. У нас женщины довольно сдержанные и спокойные и в душе религиозные. А это жертва Салтанат, жена того самого чиновника , насколько мне известно имела большую зависимость от алькоголя и наркотиков как и её муж. У них за всё время брака и детей не было , что неестественно для Казахстана как и здоровых отношений. С уважением Казах.
@@Куаныш-ч8с it doesn't matter, the fact that the internet exists and everyone in every country including yours has a smartphone means it's already over. Kazakh women have been exposed to this ideology and the cats out of the bag. Wasn't there a feminist march in Almaty a few years ago? The ideas are there they just need time to sprout.
I don't say this with contempt for disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing, I want Kazakhstan to succeed and grow, but that's simply not the reality. I give it about 5 years to a decade before the birth rates and not only your country but the rest of Central Asia tank like they are in Korea or Japan. Except this time it'll be even worse since the population is much lower in this region.
@@harpsdesire4200 that's a bot, so please don't bother explaining anything. The murderer's family is quite rich to have these bots on every platform looking for comments just like yours. She was not alcoholic nor was she abusive. We are not blaming the victim here in the country. Regarding the birth rates, it's not quite right to compare my country to Korea and Japan, since they are decades ahead of us, and the cultural aspect is quite different. I would give it at least another generation for rates to plummet and mindset to shift towards something else than family upbringing.
Kazakhstan be like: We were colonized by Europeans but we won lmao.
"Let us begin with this evident fact: Muscovy does not belong at all to Europe, but to Asia. It follows that judging Muscovy and the Muscovites by our European standards is a mistake to be avoided."-gonzague de reynold, 19501 In methodological terms, one should de-Europeanise any analysis of Muscovy policy.- thomas gomart, 20062 "
The irony is your statement isn't that far from reality.
Throughout the 20th century the russians tried real hard to colonize Kazakhstan. But you need people to colonize a land. And as the russian demographics was running out of steam their goals of turning Kazakhstan into yet another Ural or Siberia turned untenable.
Since 1991 millions of russian colonists left Kazakhstan. And our strong demographics makes the process of decolonization irreversible.
@@traumvonhaiti Our? Your Kazakh? Nice, would like to visit your beatiful country this is coming from a Palestinian. The Steppe, the mountains if you have, the plains all of it looks cool and your Muslim thats also great its a common factor. Keep being a great country, hopefully some of my arab brethren can take a note.
@@adamradziwill I dont care Russians are European, I am saying this from a middle eastern btw. They are basically Europeans but cold (literally cold look at where they live) and poorer on average.
@@hishamalaker491Europeans traditionally apply to residents of Western Europe who are Romans, but to Eastern Europeans the term Europeans is not traditionally used and this applies to Russians and other Slavs
I think this may be the only KaiserBauch video that doesn’t give me existential dread.
I have seen 0 burkas in my lifetime as a kazakh. What you are referring to probably is hijab
I’ve seen a couple of women in burqas walking down the street just now, an older and a younger woman, Qostanay.
@@damian_madmansnest I guess he is from the north.
@@save_sudan_and_palestine I have literally seen two women wearing burqas today in the north in the least religious region of Kazakhstan 🙃It’s a quite rare sight but I still think having seen 0 burqas in one’s life as a Kazakh is either some unusual luck or an overexaggeration.
I see so much niqab outside in Almaty it's scary.
@@chisaki703 Yeah i’d rather Kazakhs stuck to Kazakh version of Islam otherwise the nice demographic won’t help…
May God protect us from the evil eye
Amin
The GDP per capita states are irrelevant because the money comes from oil, and the revenues from that go to the rich.
So if my neighbour is a millionaire, and I earn 0, our GDP per capita is 500k each 😂
There’s the thing called taxation. That channels part of oil and other money to local and state budget
actually the whole mining sector incl oil etc. makes up only 12 percent of GDP, but in terms of export they are prevailent
@@АлишерОрынбек-б8дIn Kazakhstan local budget is decided upon by central government. In western Kazakhstan only engineers and oil company management make big bux. The average worker is no better off than in the rest of Kazakhstan.
Love from Kazakhstan
kaiserbauch positive title and comment section ?? Alhamdulilah
KAZAKHSTAN MENTIONED🇰🇿🇰🇿🇰🇿🇰🇿🇰🇿
I'm Kazakh. I was born and raised in Kazakhstan. I live in Kazakhstan now. I will live in Kazakhstan and I hope that I will die in Kazakhstan.
I love my people and know our history.
However, I have been thinking about the issue of high birth rates in my country for a whole year. And I still haven't found a comprehensive answer.
In theory, as urbanization increases, the birth rate falls. This is a universal law for everyone.
Urbanization, technocratization, feminism, atomization, materialism, modernity, postmodernity. We have all this and it is getting stronger. Yes, we have less feminism than in Europe, but believe me, it is highly developed here. Our women are much freer than in Arab countries.
So why are we growing? There are many factors here:
1) Genetic memory of our suffering. Over the past 300 years, our people have had too many disasters. Disasters that killed approximately half of the entire population each. Our people have some kind of BIOLOGICAL feeling that there should be more of us. People even have exact numbers, which are approximately the same for most people. We should have a population of 40-50 million, compared to the current 20 million. There should have been so many of us if not for the catastrophes of the last 200-300 years.
2) Fear of neighbors. Russia and China. Large empires that are not right in the head. And who have zero humanism towards small nations both in their own country (War against Chechen separatism in Russia, Uyghur re-education camps in China.) and on their borders (War in Georgia, war in Ukraine, Taiwan).
We understand with our skin that if they attack us, they will most likely conquer us. But to conquer does not mean to enslave. The stronger our patriotism and the higher our numbers, the more expensive it will be to control us.
However, these are superficial factors. This is not enough. We need to go deeper.
1) Family. Kazakhs and all of Central Asia are very family-oriented regions. Family, family and more family. Family is extremely important
2) Sacralization of fertility. Children are of utmost importance. Super significant. Without children, much of the meaning of life is lost. This is especially felt when your native language is Kazakh, not Russian. The language itself literally cultivates people's love for children. And the importance of fertility. It's hard to explain, but it's true. In Central Asian cultures, the importance of children is deeply ingrained.
In principle, you can stop there, but it would be a mistake. We need to dig even deeper.
1) Optimism for the future. We believe that everything will be fine with us. Although we clearly see that the whole world is in crisis and the next 30-50 years will be very bad all over the world. But it will be good later, right? Where does this optimism come from? Rather, it is a cultural factor; we have experienced the most terrible thing before. It shouldn't be so hard now and in the future. Naive? Yes.
2) Harmony of religions and ethnic groups. We are very proud of our hospitality and we are probably in the top 10 countries in the world with the highest inter-ethnic and inter-confessional harmony. We are all friends with each other. This creates a comfortable living environment.
But that's not all. There are countries that have the same parameters as above, but they have a low birth rate. There's something else.
1) Vision of the future. Project of the future. Kazakhstan knows where it is going. There will be more of us, we will become richer. This is the desired plan. Perhaps we will expand the borders, but this will only be in 40+ years, when Russia will completely weaken, and we will become strong and numerous. And the annexation of territories will be a very soft, organic and creeping process. With no blood.
2) Roots of the past. Kazakhs are restoring their history. This knowledge gives strength. The nomads and all of Central Asia have a great and dramatic history.
Here we get to the heart of the matter. This is of course just my theory. But my Kazakh heart tells me that I am right.
All of Central Asia and Mongolia are gradually strengthening their connection with Eternity and Infinity. Time and Space.
Let me explain. A person cannot live without transcendental meanings. Without higher meanings, to put it simply. Meanings that are greater than ordinary human life. These meanings should connect a person with Eternity and Infinity. In this case, time and space are each divided into two more parameters. Time is divided into Past and Future. The space is divided into the Inner world and the Outer world. It turns out 4 pillars.
1) Past
2) Future
3) Inner world
4) Outside world
At the same time, all 4 pillars are endowed with sacredness and spiritualized. We have a soul and the whole world around us is full of living souls.
If all these 4 pillars are strong, then we have living faith. Or organic faith. If organic faith is strong, then children are born. Organic faith is not identical to Religion, it is different. Previously, the closest thing to organic faith was paganism. Belief in the spirits of ancestors (the Past), sacred education of children, as well as the most significant holiday - these are the holidays of Fertility (Future), the spirits of nature (Outer World), the complex nature of the human soul (Inner World).
The stronger the organic faith, the healthier the society. The less depression and other social illnesses it has.
I haven’t dug deeper yet, I feel like I’m still missing something.
An important point is that in organic faith, the Past and Future are primarily viewed through biology. Ancestors and descendants. In general, organic faith is very...biological in nature. A kind of spiritualized, sacralized... biology. We are part of nature, but at the same time we have the mind, will and soul to realize, spiritualize and sacralize our biological task as a biological species. It doesn’t sound very divine, but it is most effective in terms of fertility and survival in the long term.
The current descendants of the nomads of the Great Steppe and the inhabitants of Central Asia have just such an organic faith.
Керемет жаздың, бауырым! Ойыңның барлығы дұрыс. Енді бастысы осындай ақылды жігіт бола тұра, көптеп бала жасап таста, елімізге көмектесіп🫡
You have dug deep enough, my friend
Your first point is quite apt and may also explain Israeli fertility rate...
>s we will expand the borders, but this will only be in 40+ years, when Russia will completely weaken, and we will become strong and numerous. And the annexation of territories will be a very soft, organic and creeping process. With no blood.
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why would kazakhstan expand? don't they already have too much territory?
Жиналып қалыпты брат😂
Бірақ айтқан сөздеріңмен толықтай келісемін🫡
GREAT SUCCESS!!!👍👍
The Borat effect 😂
Jokes aside, best wishes to Kazakhstan from Georgia. Would seem kinda wild to an outsider but we were the same country not too long ago.
Georgia is still poor unlike Kazakhstan though and the fertility rate is close to 0. So don't even compare both countries.
And now hopefully we are good friends and neighbors (even though no borders :)
Wishing Georgia and georgian ppl prosperity!
We Georgian are kipchak cuman
@@eugenic12Georgian are also kipchak cuman wtf
Thank you I wish the best for you too it's hard to see your struggles but you're strong🇰🇿🤝🇬🇪
Great, love that positive content. All the best for Kazahkstan. Maybe we can learn from them.
Aren't turkey & kazakhstan the only two regions located almost completely in asia that are eligible to join the european union based on the fact that a part of each of them is inside the geographical boundaries designated for european mainland? With that in mind, it doesn't feel like a random coincidence that both of them ended up getting covered by your analytical essays somehow.
Kazakhstan has a chunk in europe in as big as france in volume
@@muramasa870most of it is just vast plains
its central Europe
@@alexvegetables7856so is poland
@@alexvegetables7856 and? There's still cities there.
I think family plays an important role here. When the West and East Asia modernised, the family culture gradually changed and people start to value a family less and less and start to focus on themselves. Now whether this is something good or bad is another debate but I think that familz culture is an important factoe here
It also has one of the coolest national flags.
And beautiful Kazakh women. Kazakhs are Eurasians. It is the country where Europe and Asia meet , so we look like a sort of mixture of these two races.
Good for Kazakhstan, I hope they grow to become one of the most prosperous places on earth! 🇨🇦🤝🇰🇿
Thank you😊
Fact check: cousin marriages are not widely practiced in the country because it is forbidden by Kazakh national tradition to intermarry within 7 generations. It is an absolute taboo. So I hope you could do your research more thoroughly.
It is not shmikmant it is Shymkent 😂 bro overall thanks for positive content about my country
So cool that you made this video because just a few weeks ago I was looking into the demographics of Kazakhstan and was intrigued by how well they seem to be doing. The best post Soviet state when it comes to fertility by a long shot.
This makes me smile~ I'm happy to hear that they are doing well! I rarely hear about the country. Good for Kazakhstan!
I'm looking forward to a video on the Chechens and North Caucasians, whom have the highest birth rates in Russia. Specifically even more so the unique diaspora of Circassians, who have large populations in Turkey, Israel, Syria, and elsewhere. They have strict tribal clan affiliations even in modern times, often living insular preventing marriages with outsiders.
Circassians are almost extinct and Chechens have a very low population too so it makes sense for them even if they were not very religious.
@@belstar1128 Almost extinct? There are over 5 million Circassians in the world. Chechens are a few million. They are more religious and have fertility rates around 3. Don’t forget the Ingush and Dagestanis.
@@VainakhQuranitesCircassians in Turkey are nearly completely assimilated. Only some elders speak their native language. Without the diaspora in Turkey there are just 2 million Circassians left
@@Kickboxer7267 The language is declining in Turkey, but not so in other diaspora countries. In Turkey, there are several Circassian organizations keeping the culture and norms alive. It’s the language that’s hardest to maintain. It’s an uphill battle and the best course of action is for Circassians to return home.
@@belstar1128 Yeah thanks to the Russian colonizers
Қазақстан жасасын!
Thank you for making a video about Kazakhstan, I am from Europe am I am a big fan of this country.
It wasn't a famine caused by attempts to bring kazakh people into the collective farming system, it was a genocide. Ukrainians and kazakhs were the most large ethnicities in the Soviet union after russians, which posed a threat to soviets. Decreasing their population was beneficial for soviets trying to strengthen their power. Ukrainians have no problem with agriculture and collective farming, yet they still suffered from famine.
Btw, 40% is a huge underestimate. We all know how the soviet union and modern russia play with statistics.
Очень странно что вы забываете об оралманах, которые по сути были баями и они увели огромное количество скота за границу, а советское правительство знала об общем количестве скоте и пыталось выполнить план, забирая последнее у казахов. Наверное надо быть более объективными, когда кто то говорит только с одной точки зрения это становится пропагандой.
Возможно если бы они не увели бы скот, не было бы нужды отбирать последнее у народа? И не было бы таких потерь, но всю вину воздагают только на СССР, хотя тут и наша бай постарались.
@@qwertylowbubble any evidence about playing with statistics or it's just WEWEEREKINZUGABUGA post-"colonial"resentment?
I think the x factor is the "endogamous communitarian family structure" that creates a family unit that is less predisposed to interact with the broader society. So it maintained more traditional roles.
In the meantime the exogamous communitarian is very "father dependant" so once the fathers role declines the rest of the structure just falls apart, and that's what happened in eastern europe and Russia.
But Kazakhstan has the exogamous variant. I agree that having a lot of support from other family makes it easier for a mother to raise children. But women being able to choose their husbands rather than being forced to marry their cousins might also be a factor.
I think another part of the difference is that Kazakhstan is focused on building things, not playing status games with university degrees and so on. The most status conscious city, the "hipster city" as KB called it, has the lowest fertility.
I agree that if Kazakhstan goes to the "neolocal nuclear family" structure (newly married couples move away from their families, for work or whatever), like other rich countries, then fertility will collapse.
You are confusing Kazakhs with Uzbeks. Kazakhs have always been famously exogamous.
@@aidaismailowa3698 Aren't Uzbeks also exogamous?
@@PowerSimplified1871Uzbeks are a diverse bunch, there are Uzbeks that can trace their origin to traditional nomadic tribes which are the same as Kazaks. But majority of them are of sedentary farming extraction which was Farsi / Tajik speaking and was superficially turkified only in the last 100-150 years,and is culturally close to Middle East sedentary populations, which is endogamous.
the only meaningful factor is the lack of liberalism. however, the past few years liberals are actively promoting their liberalism in Kstan
I have heard that this is mainly the case, because certain clan structures are still intact. Young people have access to many, especially older, relatives, who are helping to raise kids.
Yes. Good or bad, but you are never alone in Kazakh society.
You’re always supported by and responsible to your family and extended family as well.
We don’t even have equivalent word for western - cousin.
We only have - brother/sister.
You’d hardly see any homeless person in Kazakhstan.
@@TarlanT there's enough homeless beggars mostly elderly women on the streets of Almaty
The key reasons absolutely do not stem from traditional families or communities, and certainly not from patriarchy. Otherwise, East Asia wouldn't have ended up the way it is today.
1.In East Asia, grandparents are definitely willing to help take care of children, often providing substantial financial support as well.
2.Even as traditional extended families break down, East Asian couples can still count on support from both sets of grandparents, which can at least help in raising two children.
Kazakhstan's fertility rate exceeding 3 may indeed rely on support from traditional extended families, but first and foremost, Kazakhstan must overcome the obstacles faced by East Asia, whatever they may be.
Traditional and conservative family cultures might marginally aid Kazakhstan's fertility, but they cannot be absolute factors.
Religion, as well as educational and work culture also play a role. Firstly, Kazakhstan does not have such a intense education system that does not basically force parents to spend a huge amount of money on private tutoring for their kids. They don’t work very long hours to the point of barely being able to see your children if you even bother to have them. Finally religion, Kazakhs are Muslim with Islam heavily emphasising large families, in contrast to largely irreligious East Asia
@@thomasgrabkowski8283 Yes, that's exactly what I was thinking too.
I've seen discussions about how traditional family cultures supposedly boost birth rates, but I think these traditions are largely religious in nature. It is that Islam encourages Kazakhs to have children, which is something not found in East Asia.
Also, of course, traditional East Asian practices in certain aspects actually encourage family planning instead, which likely don't exist among Kazakhs.
@@qfpan6426 Furthermore, East Asian traditions are rooted in Buddhism, which doesn’t emphasize the importance of large families unlike Islam
Islam doesn’t emphasize large family per se. It does however emphasize strictly defined gender roles, so men are expected to be men and women - to be women. That helps to sustain the traditional family
@@АлишерОрынбек-б8д You are on point. Islam plays a much stronger role in reinforcing gender differences.
Although the video mentioned extensive education for women during the Soviet era, Kazakh women perhaps still face significant societal pressures to fulfill traditional reproductive roles, rather than focusing more on pursuing their careers like women in East Asia do.
It always makes my day when you release a video, please keep at it!
Man... you can't just simply say "i don't know whats happening".... we are here for your expertise and insight
It's all about culture. You can view the same demographic dynamics in all Central Asian countries (which are culturally close). Kazakhstan just happens to be the wealthiest one.
@@traumvonhaitinot true, Uzbekistan is declining
@@nurzhan3269 In numbers, yes. Just like Kazakhstan & Kyrgyzstan. Population pyramids for both are pretty similar, and explain this phenomenon excellently.
Now, in reproduction behavior terms there's no evidence that anything is declining.
@@traumvonhaitiI've been looking at the fertility rate and it seems like declining
@@nurzhan3269 Еу бауырым біздерде де, өзбектерде де фертилити рейты төмендейіп жатыр ғой. Ол белгілі әрбір миі бар адамға. Тоқсаныншы жылдарының жас пирамидасына қарап алшы
I find these central Asian countries so interesting: Kazakhstan, Kirgistan, Uzbekistan and Tadjikistan. I really want to travel there
My opinion on what saves a demography is the secure future of women. A rational human being will want to make sure that a decent living standard is secured after retirement and in high age. This can be secured by a multitide of measures, which is why it is hard to pin it to a specific trait or policy.
Kazakhstan seems to have the benefit of strong family values, so a woman will be taken care of her family later, therefore she can focus on what feels best to her and that is usually having children.
In the west, family values are weak, there is no stigma against divorce or for children to make their own choices and focus on their own nuclear family, so women have to make preparations for their future. Retirement plans are usually based on personal economic success so women choose to focus on their career, which makes getting children only a hindrance. Even if they married a rich man, if he divorces them and made beneficial marriage contract for him, the ex-wife will be left with a hole in her retirement plan.
What would therefore save the demography in the west would be a large pension benefit for each child a woman raises and not a single large payment at birth or during raising them, as many people propose.
Also in some western nations the woman can just decide to get bored and get a divorce and half of the mans entire wealth. Not a very enticing proposition for men to get married.
Kazakhstan is not a muslim country! It’s a secular state with different religions.
It is Muslim country
@@Hasanaljadid well if u consider alcohol drinking, dont praying fove times, women not wearing hijab and people not caring about halal products than yes Kazakhstan is muslim.
@@trueordrueAlcohol drinking is lower in Kazakhstan then anywhere in Europe and mostly consumed by russians. Kazakhs almost never eats pork and mostly eats halal meats.Being Muslim Doesn't mean every aspect of life is governed by Islam.Many Kazakhs are religious too
no @@Hasanaljadid
@@uziel420Yes
17:24 wearing burqa type of hijab is never widely practised by nomadic (like Kazakhs ans Kyrgyses) or rural women, its more like urban type of hijab.
Even in Turkey one of the hot topic of feminism debates in late 1800's and early 1900's is "why urban ladies cant enjoy freedom of rural women, why hijab rules executed for urban ladies are more strict than rural?"
Because nomadic or rural women must work outside the house, in fields or in animal herd so in these places traditinaly hijabs of the women were more light. A woman in burqa cant do these tasks freely.
I must say as an urbanised educated relatively-higher-income 4+ children household that there are significant stress points in maintaining this system, atleast in our case.
The combinations of conservative and westernised family, work stress, education requirements, western media forms create a complicated mix.
I feel that the current main driver of the growth is the generation that exited Soviet Union (in childhood) and the government policies + good environment.
This growth seems so natural to me but I have no idea if it will be maintained
Great video, as always! I would gladly see a video on Czech demography and why it's been somewhat best in Europe. Pretty please!
As a Tatar person from Russia im really glad to see the growing number of Kazakhs, Uzbeks and other Turkic brothers and sisters! We will rise again!
Look at Turkey,Azerbaijan and tatarstan(Russia)
Other Turkic areas are rise but Turkey will fall with islamist refugees from syria and fundemantelist islamist goverment :(
@@CruWiTYou're just Being ignorant
@@Hasanaljadidfr
When do you think Tatarstan will get its independence from Russia?
You'd rather not to take GDP per capita as a major metric for population's wealth. Usually in post-soviet countries, income from natural resources goes to the political center and is distributed from there to the provinces. So, people who live in resources-rich regions get almost nothing from it
Kazakhstan is better in this regard
@@HasanaljadidIt really isn’t, especially considering how heavily Kazakh extraction industries rely on foreign companies and workers. For example, I would argue that Tatarstan gets far more out of it’s resources than atyrau or especially mangistau oblasts.
not often do i see people making videos about kazakhstan, great job man
Only Central Asia and Israel where women can get higher education and have many children
Can you do Italy and Spain next?
I wish Kazakhs good luck and best future! Greetings from Germany. I hope they will be free of russian influence some day which will bring Kazakhstan wealth and new development perspectives.
Next Video about Georgia(Country).
As a Georgian, I'd love to watch. Here we have a curious case of somewhat recovered, about replacement-level fertility (after disastrous 90s and early 00s) but huge emigration (incl. but not limited to ethnic minorities migrating to their titular nation-states) causing the population to decline with each national census. Reasons, I think, are that our region and geopolitics are highly volatile, our economy is hopelessly shit and despite our (on surface level) religiosity and conservatism we are still hit with negative effects of modernization (women in education and workforce, increasing urbanization etc). Furthermore, these had somewhat limited Georgian fertility even during the last 10-15 years of USSR, compared to our neighbors in Armenia and Azerbaijan.
@@ercoleborgiano And you're also governed by -Georgian Nightmare- -Russian Dream- Georgian Dream.
@@VisiblyPinkUnicorn Please don't remind me of our political scene. One more reason out of a thousand in Georgia to get shitfaced drunk and try and forget it exists at all.
@@ercoleborgiano 1.7 isn't about replacement-level lmfao
@@ercoleborgiano But after some years it became below the Sub Replacement Rate. Georgians should get more kids and sustain the Sub Replacement Rate.
Amazing Video! Thank you so much for making a video of Central Asia!
16:12 this actually kinda makes sense: Oil drilling produces more revenue, but it doesn't mean that the region it takes place in necessarily directly benefits from it, with actual money from said activities flowing towards economic centers of the country, but the region itself staying fairly rural. Another example of that is Russia and it's oil producing regions: they produce a lot of revenue, but the actual population there is still fairly rural.
But the rural population in Russia is not having 3 or 4 kids like the Kazakhs. Your theory does not hold up.
@@vmoses1979 in kazakhstan a poorness of region correlate with religiosity-paleoconservatism.
in russian rural region they're westernized.
@@TOBI-sr4mo That's my point. Rural is not a key factor. The OP is just dead wrong. It is religion and culture.
@@vmoses1979 yea, but it's mean that kaiserbauch wrong about "wow look at that, they are rich, educated, and having high fertility"
in fact in kazakhstan no one conventional theory was debunked.
regions with high fertility is very rural, VERY conservative and religious.
in almaty(last capital) there are 1.9 children per woman. its including religious people.
secular educated woman in kazakhstan have around 2 kids and it's decreasing.
and there is point that secular-educated woman in kazakhstan will be consider as conservative in europe.
@@vmoses1979 in kazakhstan there are no secular-liberals in west definition.
there are ultra-conservatives(in african-middle eastern way) with fertility around 4.5
and "secular people" that is similar to american conservatives. with fertility 2
when kaiserbauch telling that kazakhstan is example of secular educated country that broke all fertility forecasts - it's funny, cuz it's not.
dry tables from wikipedia is without context...
Can you do a video on Latin America or Southeast Asia next? Many countries in those regions have gone under sub replacement and I’m very curious how they’re development will be affected in the future
Based Kazakhs
Wow! Great work! The best explanation of Kazakhstan I as a Kazak have seen on TH-cam.
Russians did ethnic cleansings in 1916, 1920, 1930. They also used our lands for nuclear weapon tests in 1950-1980. Used syrdariya river for cotton and rice, which led our aral lake to dry out. Soviets also did tselina land reform which led to massive soil erosions in 1960.
So after our independence, we are getting to our limits population, since thankfully to the antisoviet nato alliance soviet union disbanded.
The secret are not complicated:
1) patriarchy
2) growing economy
3) cheap flats
Wouldn’t include cheap flats since bunch of fleeing Russians bought up and inflated local prices
Indeed, flats are relatively cheap compared to Europe or rich Asian countries. Generally two-three bedroom apartment in Astana costs 3-4 times cheaper than in Belgium
I am Kazakh, unfortunately a big portion of our women is getting more and more westernized and feminist, however, in the other hand, there’s another trend that some of our women of 15-30 age category getting more religious and started wearing hijab and even niqab. So it’s kinda interesting situation.
@@timkaz8793Not niqab man
@@timkaz8793 The more westernized women just won't make kids, or just a single one. The problem will solve itself in time, and you have the most of it. As long as you know what kind of cultural patterns to avoid, you'll be fine. I'm envious.
Great success 👍
It might simply be a product of randomness. Modernity-induced fertility decline is quite a universal feature, but it's not impossible that there might be exceptions, that is, populations who do not react to modernity by adopting maladaptively low fertility. It's similar to how there are still some individuals who choose to have 4+ children even when exposed to a modern environment even among western native populations. This is likely explained by individual psychological variation, and since groups are collections of individuals, this variation can also apply on a group level.
Randomness? You should explain this randomness across other Central Asian countries then.
Kazakhstan just happens to be the wealthiest one. But if you look at how people live, Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan aren't that different at all.
Exactly. Randomness is a joke answer.
By randomness I meant there might be some unique psychological features among the Kazakhs (and maybe also other Central Asians) that we do not know of which make them more resistant to modernity-induced decadence. If we are unable to find definite cultural factors that explain their abnormally high fertility, as was the conclusion of this video, then what I proposed seems like the most plausible explanation.
@@internetuser2721 Don't be ridiculous. I am Kazakh. There are no unique psychological features among among us. We are just as human as all the other humans on the planet.
It's all about our culture/mentality which is passed down to us from our parents. That's how we are brought up.
Unfortunately KB didn't go deep into this topic. But you can read some comments by the Kazakhs under this video which give a glimpse into our culture and mentality.
@@traumvonhaiti What explains this culture/mentality that incentivizes them to have 4 children instead of 0 or 1? Why has it persisted in Kazakhstan but not in almost any other country? If we lived in 1900, you could easily say that most western people are extremely family oriented, whereas nowadays they are degenerates. I've no doubt westerners in 1900 also "passed down their family values onto the next generation", but that didn't prevent the cultural sterility from emerging nonetheless. So something explains why this shift has not taken place in Kazakhstan as opposed to much of the modern world.
As we always saying in Russia, Kazakhs are superhumans
Where in Russia? In Russia many says "chorny bashka" 😂😂😂
@@bertrecht913 hmm, why people would say "black head" about Kazakhs? I could imagine something more rude or something more funny but that are you saying doesn't make sense for me
@@Sergio_752 superhumans makes even less sense 😂
@@bertrecht913 it's called irony
Not Russia
I am smashing the like and commenting for the algo
As a Kazakh, I admit that you did a tremendous research and portrayed the situation pretty well. Nevertheless, I would like to make couple of notes:
1) The west of Kazakhstan is relatively more traditional and nationalistic than the east. While it's true that the South is more traditional than the West of Kazakhstan, the West's Kishi Júz people follow more strictly kazakh traditions and face marriage more seriously, especially in rurban areas. Aqtau is our Oil capital that makes the majority of the GDP of the region, otherwise rurban areas are relatively poor.
2) 14:56 it is Shymkent, not Shykment
You made a really informative video. I learnt a lot about the reasons of our demographic miracle. Thank you!
Not to mention the massive immigration of ethnic Kazakhs from adjacent countries after gaining independence, that significantly contributed to the increase of native Kazakh population. These Kazakhs usually come from lands that used to be a part of Kazakh Khanate, or descendants оf people fleed to other countries due to communist repression and famine. According to statistics, approximately 20% of Kazakhstani population was born in foreign countries. Majority of them moved from Uzbekistan, China and Mongolia. There are still about 3 million ethnic Kazakhs living outside of Kazakhstan.
Salam Alaikum ✋✋
I am from Western Europe but found Kazakhstan cool!
Never been there but I wish you the best!
Could you do a video about chances for civil racial conflict in Europe?