I always wished they'd explore the idea that Cyclops eyes are a portal to another dimension more, I feel like there's so many places you can go with that.
Imagine a focal length amplifying process that allows him to project the portals from other spaces he can see, like his fists. Then we’re REALLY in the punch dimension.
Storm: Hey Scott, are you and Jean still together? Cyclops: no, we broke up Storm: I'm sorry to hear that Cylcops: Yeah I guess you could say she's my *Removes glasses* *Obliterates Storm*
The punch dimension would explain why his optic beams don't send him flying backwards at the same rate that they move forwards from his face. Or, really more accurately, why they don't break is neck
People underestimate how powerful and the span of his optic blasts. His blast can cover his whole range of sight. Meaning what he sees in front spanning to his peripheral vision. That's pretty scary
I just saw a viral tweet just recently complaining about a picture of cyclops using his optic blast to grill food, and one of the replies said he's basically just "punching the meat with his eyes".
America's & Cyclops's dimensions can't be the same! America's is full of punches, while Cyclops's dimension contains not punches, but something that turns into something that triggers punches when it leaks into Earth-616/Earth Prime.
I’ve Mandala Effected myself for years thinking it was Cyttorak’s dimension. Completely forgetting it was Juggernaut who gets his powers from there. But what if…
Marvel really complicated Cyke's optic blasts as the years go by. When he was first introduced, Scott's body absorbs solar energy to convert it to optic blasts, he was even able to absorb lightning to do the same. There was even a panel when the beam was able to hold three robbers and made them unable to move as if they were petrified. If Cyke's power came from another dimension, how come there were so many times that he rans out of optic blast?
Hey another idea for a cyclopes centered video could be why the summers brothers (scott(cyclops), alex( havoc) & gabriel(vulcan)) powers don't work on each other
Cyclops' body generates a field that neutralizes his own beam. That's why he can block it with his hands and his eyelids. The energy of his brother Havoc's powers (and presumably Vulcan's powers) is similar enough that the field also neutralizes those attacks. I'm pretty sure the same applies for Cyclops attacking them.
Well, the eye beams are still more useful than the Boxing Glove arrow. It can punch things at a distance _continuously_ (least until he runs out of power) and can be focused for precision or defocused for wider range and has way more concussive force. Punch Dimension: 1 Boxing Glove Arrow: 0
Comic Drake And according to the Star Trek The Next Generatiom X-Men crossover novel he comes out covered in tachyon particles. The same thing happens when the Enterprise goes to Warp speed
Lee and Kirby: He shoots lasers out of his eyes. Comics: Nah bros, that's too simple. His eyes are portals to an alternate dimension. Lee and Kirby: .....................................................................
DC: There's a speedforce, a streghtforce, a mindforce... And you can access them with an explosion... there's also a special guy to kill those who use them... Somebody: Sounds legit. Marvel: And there's a dimension with kinetic energy in it... Somebody: That's dumb!
It's pretty simple, his power is the ability to open those portals to the punch dimension. The "solar" portion is not what generates the "punch," but what controls the *aperture* of that portal. By default, only a certain amount of energy flows through the portals, but if he strains himself he can widen that aperture, producing more powerful beams. If he does this too much though, it drains his solar energy reserves. It's basically like trying to hold a valve open that wants to close.
Tim Ogul it's still confusing because he also needs the glasses to keep them closed. When he's not wearing them they fire non- stop. The aperture is always open but it doing so tires him out because it wants to close?
Well, it doesn't tire him out physically, it just tires out his "super power reserves," And yes, it's a strain on his systems while active, but he doesn't have the _option_ of just turning it off. This is because he had brain damage as a child that broke the part of his brain meant to control his abilities, leaving them "always on". Think of it like someone with uncontrollable muscle spasms. It's painful, and it puts strain on their muscles that they would be better off not having, but they lack the ability to "just stop doing it."
The visor doesn't close the apertures. It just harmlessly absorbs the beam (or redirects it back into Cyclops, who then absorbs it harmlessly), using the same energy field that allows Cyclops' own body to safely block the beam. That field is why he can block the beam with his hands and even his eyelids. The same field also harmlessly absorb the beams of his brother Havok, which is how their sibling immunity works..
In the comics, it says that he can shoot enough force to rip a small planet in half. And someone told me that there's no proof of that. Meaning he can't really do that. But can he actually do it?
@@timogul i dont follow the x men comics too much but in do remenber that episode of the show where they used powers on him to make him older and be was able to control his powers Not sure if anything like that is canon in the main universe but i always though that he could control his powers but he just doesnt know how to do it because of their volatile nature
Alex Larson That's part of it. The other part is considering how big the portals in his eyes really are. Because after AvX the power of the former Phoenix 5 powers were enhanced along with their physical fortitude. For Cyclops it expanded the portals in his eyes, which would've happen normally if continued to train and develop them. So now Cyclops could channel so much power that even his original visor could barely control it. It's also why that had to change his visor. It was now half visor/half reflector. That and he was infected mirco-sentinels so that made his powers even harder to control.
+King Megadon Yeah, Cyclops has received several power-ups over the years, and it makes sense that different power levels could correspond to different portal sizes. Maybe he can even adjust the portal sizes by squinting. That would give him some limited control without any visor. That's just speculation, though. Side note: How did you manage to quote my name as "Alex Larson"? Autocorrect?
The beams are blasting continuously at a set lower limit of power that is energetic enough to break bones. Cyclops can increase the force beyond this to an unknown upper limit, and he obviously uses his visor to control the beams to create an effective lower limit of force below the normally fixed level, including stopping the beams altogether. Cyclops has exhausted his ‘energy reserve’ of sunlight in the past when he was younger and before his power level was increased by Krakoa; the continuous blasting effect is not enough to deplete his reserves unless he is starved of all sunlight for a considerable Time or if he attempts to increase the beam’s output to his upper limit for an extended but unknown period of time.
I don't get why punch dimension is silly? I thought it's kinda cool. Like just a dimension of red that pushes stuff away. Sounds easy to explain. And also it makes more sense for his eyes to be portals since he can close his eyes and close the portals. If it's just a constant stream it would blow through his eyelids.
Actually, closing his eyes doesn't close the portal. Instead, as a part of his mutation, his entire body is covered in a field that can harmlessly absorb the beam. That's why he can block it with his hands and even his eyelids. It's also how his visor works: Ruby quartz resonates with the field, giving it the same ability to block the beam. Finally, it's how his immunity to the powers of his brother Havok works. Their energy signatures (or something like that) are similar enough that the field can absorb Havok's beams as well. Havok has a similar field.
@@jeremypinkham8356 What do you mean "why?"? The story of Cyclops is fiction, so a dimension of red energy exists because the writer says it does. In a multiverse of infinite diversity, I don't see the problem with some dimensions being more uniform than others.
@@jeremypinkham8356 Of course not, but you made it sound like the most implausible part of that story was that this other dimension didn't have any other stuff in it. I would think that eye-portals or the existence of "punch energy" were both much harder pills to swallow than the idea that some alternate dimension in a diverse multiverse is filled only with a certain type of energy.
I would prefer if he were able to absorb extradimensional energies into his body and project it from his eyes, as if his body is a waterpump connect to the ocean and his eyes are likely a nozzle of a fire hose. It's would also make them somewhat similar to how Havok's powers work mechanically speaking. Personally, when I was a kid i always wanted to have his powers be similar to Blackbolt, in that the energies reinforced his body with increased strength and durability. It's would explain why he would get pushed back by his own blasts and why he survive battle trauma that most other people would have died from easily.
When I first heard that Cyclops powers were literally just the energy from a portal in his eyes I figured that's how they always worked. What's more it has been shown in the comics that his and Havok's powers are the same, just that Havok can channel it through his entire body and even use the punch dimension as a portal similar to America.
My problem with the pushback question has always been that Scott's physical eyes aren't the thing doing the pushing. Sure the blast fires out of his eyes, but the portal thing already addresses that. The portals themselves are likely not a physical part of Scott's body and thus that would be the reason that he can both see and fire beams at the same time. So recoil wouldn't be going back into Scott's body but rather back into the portals that are already a fire hose of ceaseless kinetic force.
_"I'm being followed by some guy with red glasses, so there's a 10% chance It's daredevil, 10% chance that he actually think they look good on him, and a 9999% chance it's good-ol' scotty"_ -Deadpool
I was always confused about how his optic beams would sometimes burn stuff and other times not. I've seen him use his eyes to weld the x jet together, burn Wolverine, and cause fire for a campfire. But then sometimes it's just... A energy punch
I think the usual excuse given is friction. His beam heats up objects over time with friction. That can probably explain most of the instances where the writer forgets that the beam is supposed to be heatless.
That's how it was possible for him to cut through adamantium then in order to cut off Wolverine's hand in AoA! The dimensional energy is pure concussive force that is not of this universe!
Am I the only one completely OK with the Punch Dimension explanation or what. It makes perfect sense to me of a dimension made entirely of energy his eyes open portals to and him running out of energy is not confusing, it takes energy to keep the portals open.
Wait, if he would run out of energy and was no longer able to perform optic blast, would he no longer have to wear visors or sunglasses until he recharged?
@@techfrank2431 Around 2:50. It was talking about how Scott would need to recharge his optic blast, so I reaaoned if he needes to recharge it, he would for a time not be firing his optic blast and there fire not need to wear glasses
(Storm) Did you just use your powers to engrave "Cyclops was here" on the sidewalk. (Cyclops) I don't know what you're talking about (Storm) One of you saw it---right? (Daredevil) I didn't see a thing *Fist bumps scott*
Honestly, I like the Punch Dimension more than the solar power explanation. It gives Cyclops his own flavor beyond run-of-the-mill laser vision, and personally I feel it makes more sense. The idea that he can turn such a small about of sunlight into such powerful beams isn’t that realistic either.
I like the punch dimension because it does explain how cyclops can generate so much power. I mean it's not like you can just shoot beams out of his eyes, he can't turn the power off and less he closes his eyes or wear special glasses. Plus I love in astonishing X-Men where he fills in entire panel red to take out some sentinels with his highest setting.
The "concussive energy force" to me makes sense. It's just like the Green Lantern's constructs, but straight and red. The whole dimension made of that though....
I actually think the extra dimensional explanation is a lot more interesting than just simply absorbing and converting solar energy, which is so generic and boring imo
Kinda hated the its edgy to piss on cyclops turn that Cyclops character took but hopefully the new legacy line will fix it. He was the leader of the xmen and was made to make the tough choices. X( oh well wolverine worship gone waaaay too far i guess
I mean it's not just wolverine worship. Cyclops in many comics has been depicted doing very dickish things and a bit more frequently than many other characters, so it stands out more.
I remember reading somewhere that Cyclops' "punch dimension" is actually the realm of Cyttorak. Though I've been unable to find a source on this, it does make sense. Cyttorak was basically this extradimensional god of massive power that would originally empower the Juggernaut, who was so overwhelmingly powerful that telepathic attacks are the only reliable way to beat him. Moreover, Doctor Strange occasionally invokes Cyttorak when casting the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak, wiry magical tethers that were basically unbreakable unless you had the power level of Worldbreaker Hulk or the Infinity Gauntlet. Powers we've seen in the MCU, and I'm amazed Marvel Studios didn't get sued by Fox over it. Honestly I think the whole idea of the Punch Dimension was to basically differentiate it from Cyclops having guns in his eyes. ...Even though guns kill through focused concussive force.
Actually, I think I know a less pseudo-sciencey way to explain cyclops lighting candles with his eyes. He buys and/or modifies candles so he can light them with concussive force, mostly as a party trick, because honestly, it's a cool trick.
Sorry my poor english (i'am brazilian): In my opinion, as a fan of the Cyclops ever since, I prefer the explanation that your body needs to absorb solar energy (to fuel) to keep the portals in your eyes (using the concept of compact internal dimension or pocket dimension) ) open, releasing the optical bursts. For those who have a problem in '' thinking about it '' (or do not know how to have fun with comic books), just accept the summary that Cyclops needs to metabolize solar energy to be able to fire its optic blasts. In fact, in the pseudo science of comic books, including Marvel, many mutants, with their "fantastic biology" (worthy of a bestiary of fantasy creatures from RPG worlds) play with parallel dimensions: - Gambit is all the time producing enough kinetic energy to overload objects and shake their molecules to the point of becoming unstable and explosive. But people who do not want to have to 'think hard' sum up their power in the following way: It can saturate an object of kinetic energy and turn it into an improvised grenade. But few wonder what the origin of this infinite kinetic energy is. - Night Crawler teleports from one place to another, through another dimension (Hell, Brimstone, Limbo, etc). This point of transition to every teleporter jump is mandatory, although it lasts a few thousandths of a second, to the point that Night Crawler does not remember to have gone through such a dimension. This explains how and why, when teleporting, Night Crawler leaves a trail of sulfur. - Maggik has a teleporting power with the same Night Crawler feature. So did Azazel, father of Night Crawler. - Havoc, brother of Cyclops, is a transition point between the multiverse: As shown in the comic book '' Mutant X '' and '' Exiles '', Alex Summer may, in a moment of stress, have his mind off of his own body and travel the multiverse. Only your mind can do this teleport and only to incarnate in a \ doppelganger counterpart in an alternate universe in which there is another Havoc \ Alex Summer. - Kitty Pryde also came to have part of his powers of intangibility explained as transferring his bodily particles to another dimension for an undetermined time. And in the most convenient way possible for her. That would explain why Kitty was '' intangible, '' but still able to speak, see, hear. survive and be seen. - Cloak & Dagger also have mutant powers that work through interaction with portals and compact dimensions (pocket dimensions). - Colossus, brother of Maggik, and another relative of Rasputin, has the ability to cause an explosion that allows to invoke an interchangeable metallic battle body (organic steel), coming from another parallel dimension. As your frail human body is sent to this parallel dimension, remaining protected from further damage. However, the mind is the same and both bodies (Piotr Rasputin's human body and Colossus battle body) share the same pains. But, many people think that Colossus is '' armored, '' as if '' his body was inside a flexible organic steel armor from nothing. '' This was somewhat reinforced by the misinterpretation in Colossus' adaptation of his version for the '' X-Men Animated Series' 'of the 1990s. And remembering: Interchangeable Battle Bodies is a very old concept, created with the character Shazam \ Captain Marvel! Many characters switch from human bodies to battle bodies after transformations rather than '' mutating '' as many people think. He-Man and Adam; She-ra and Adora; Mighty Young Samson (Hanna-Barbera); Shazam and Billy Batson; Black Adam; Thor and Donald Blake; Kamen Riders (only the top of the Toei TV series); Miracleman (Allan Moore explained this concept very well in this comic book); Darkhawk (Marvel); and many other characters are humans who use magic words, artifacts, magic, or have undergone cyborgs implants to invoke a special surrogate body that turns them into superheroes. Even Human Torch 2 (Fantastic Four) is a likely interchangeable battlefield user: It literally has a power to swap your human body for a plasma body! He does NOT breathe while in this form. The Human Torch is NOT '' just dressed in fire ''. He became a being of fire. And if we were to get out of the mutants and move on to other Marvel characters, we would have to talk about Hank Pym and the ant men: The Pym Particles comes from another universe or dimension, called the 'microverse'. To become diminutive, Ant-man sends particles of its own to this alternate dimension and compacts the empty space between its molecules. But to become giant, Hank Pym temporarily absorbs particles of this size to increase his body mass. Therefore, see NO reason to say that the powers of Cyclops are treated as weird or difficult to think about. ;) A big hug. It was a great video. ;)
appreciate the X-MEN related content man Cyclops is for sure the most under appreciated mutant of the X-mansion a lot of times is cos people who knows nothing about the comic books tend to be incapable of seeing how interesting and awesome his character truly is and the important icon that he will always be for the X-men there is a reason of why his father and son are badass Cyclops also has a lot of that in his blood
The alternative dimension thing could work if done right. Say Havoc and Cyclops enter the punch dimension to find out how there powers. They discover it's actually called The Chaos realm or the Crimson Cosmos and it's inhabited by Cyttarok. Cyttarok is an interdimensional god who loves anarchy and he also empowered Jaugernaut . In the chaos realm the normal laws of physics and gravity don't apply. Cyclops and havoc can use solar radiation to open portals to the chaos realm and can harness the gravitational energy into kinetic concusssive blasts or waves. Harnessing the gravitational energy also gives them enhanced strength, speed, agility and stamina. In the Chaos realm Havoc and Cyclops become omega level mutants with the power to manipulate gravity, open portals in and out of the chaos realm and even fly.
Okay so how abt this: cyclops uses the solar energy to open the eye portals. He can run out of energy to open the portals however so that explains the fact he can run out.
This is the first time I've heard of the punch dimension. I love the concept. I wonder if Antman can ride a ruby vehicle into Scott's eyes and enter the puch dimension? You know...... because comics.
Try to understand Cyclops's optic blasts kind of reminds of that old saying about understanding the Vietnam War: the more questions you, ask, the more questions you get.
It was explored, a bit, in one of the earlier issues of the first X-Men: First Class run. Either #3 or #4, but through Doctor Strange, Scott and the X-Men learn more about how his powers work, which fits the explanation of "his eyes are portals to another dimension", and they even visit the dimension. I know those "First Class" runs are looked over, as they very much were aimed at all-ages, but there were some gems in them that made them worth reading that expanded on what we already know from those early days of the X-Men.
The things that I propose is that Marvel should just say something like this that Cyclops can shoot his eye beams from multiple energy sources that he can also take the energy from the Sun take the energy from another dimension and take the energy from solar radiation which could clear up the fact that multiple times shown he was able to use his beams blow things up that wouldn't be natural or set things on fire and using the energy sources very for each beam if you were to use the energy from the other dimension it would just shoot concussive blasts list of pure energy for solar radiation it would allow him to shoot basically fire
Punch Dimension is dope, just a dimension of constant power, no can live in it, just take from it, i like that idea, maybe the name could change but its a dope idea
Comic Drake yeah I did cool vid I didn't know there was so much actually history behind it but it's still technically Canon as you said at the end which is why I saw it as it was
For people wondering any times his blast make fire like that candle in the beginning it's cause of friction (check back to your 7th grade science class for more info about that) and he only stops/runs out/reaches his limit when his physical body can't take it he can't just blast an optic beam with the power of a nuke without probably going unconscious afterwards or just during the attempt to do so
I still remember the comic where the X-Men traveled to Arkon's world. Scott was shown to be able to absorb energy to use for his optic blasts. They literally charge him up with Storm's lightning.
I just came across this and it gets even more confusing because if you go back in X-Men books there is a shared immunity between the Summers brothers (Scott & Alex) powers. Hmmm, I may have to reference your video and bring this up else where.
This is the first time running into your channel and the first video I've seen of yours. I haven't seen anyone do this topic and found it fun informative and your look is so right for the video. I subbed.
I'm glad you liked it! I try to specialize in stuff nobody really talks about so I hope you enjoy the other videos on the channel and that you'll like the ones coming in the future. :)
Nice video! For some reason I thought that the dimension was Cyttorak(Crimson Cosmos). Same thing that gives Juggernaught his powers (the Gem of Cyttorak) and Dr. Strange uses the Crimson bands of Cyttorak.
Colossus's metal skin also comes from an alternate universe, Nightcrawler travels through one when he teleports (as does Cloak), and I think someone even said Wolverines claws were interdimensional once to explain why they were longer than his forearms. :P
During fatal attractions the xmen used cyclops eyeblasts refocused through a machine to weld an injury on colossus forehead that kept him from changing into his human form.
Why is The Punch Dimension an unacceptable explanation? We found out Nightcrawler teleports not from one point in space in this universe to another but some Brimstone dimension. So there's precedent. Perhaps most if not all mutants have some connection with one of many dimensions and that's one factor in how their powers manifest or generate energy. I'd be okay with that.
Yeah a lot of questions, like for number one if Visa portals to a universe made of nothing but concussive force but the portals are only activated via solar energy, then each sun should be surrounded by nothing but thieves portals basically concussive blast. Secondly, she should have been instantly crushed to Oblivion the moment she went into that dimension since it is nothing but pure endless concussive Force, because by it being pure concussive force doesn't that mean it's basically a dimension you kind of can't move in because it's like being in a dimension made of nothing but concrete.
America Chavez (and for that matter any dimension hopping character via actual portals) is waaaay OP. They can literally end the book. "Oh it's Thanos. Go hang out in the Punch Dimension. Superman? Go hang out in the Darkforce Dimension." You can beat pretty much any non-cosmic/High-Father tier character with that power. Plus she's super strong, fast and invulnerable. O freakin' P.
Sadly enough this subject was never up for debate in the 90's because WE KNEW ALREADY that Scott's eyes were portals to the Crimson Cosmos. *sigh* I can't believe I'm considered a millennial. (Est.1988)
"I can shoot punches from my eyes."
That's something you'd hear very rarely
Chuck Norris' enemies hear it all the time. XD
Punchlooker
I always wished they'd explore the idea that Cyclops eyes are a portal to another dimension more, I feel like there's so many places you can go with that.
i agree with this. i like the punch dimension, they should explore it more.
I feel like there’s only one place you can go with that: the other dimension
Imagine a focal length amplifying process that allows him to project the portals from other spaces he can see, like his fists. Then we’re REALLY in the punch dimension.
@@tomagee420I'd to see X men comic where Havoc and Cyclops go into the punch dimension to find out how there powers work.
Heard a interesting idea where the dimension could be cyttoraks making him an avatar like juggernaut
Storm: Hey Scott, are you and Jean still together?
Cyclops: no, we broke up
Storm: I'm sorry to hear that
Cylcops: Yeah I guess you could say she's my
*Removes glasses*
*Obliterates Storm*
She's my X...… DESTRUCTIVE FINISH!!!!!!
*cues CSI: Miami intro*
is it bad that I instantly understood the pun
Ultinuc havent laughed that hard in a long time. Lol thanks mate
@@finnchapman5435 no absolutely not
The Punch Dimension, not to be confused with the One-Punch Dimension, or the Fruit Punch Dimension
GKWolf fruit punch dimension is the same color, however.
Marvel Donkey Punch Dimension XXX-men
however there is no such thing as a free lunch dimension
@@russellharrell2747 his inbred cousin shoots cool aid from his eyes
Makes sense though right? the punch dimension. well known from breaking through walls while yelling "OH YEAH!" makes sense it would be so destructive.
The punch dimension would explain why his optic beams don't send him flying backwards at the same rate that they move forwards from his face. Or, really more accurately, why they don't break is neck
People underestimate how powerful and the span of his optic blasts. His blast can cover his whole range of sight. Meaning what he sees in front spanning to his peripheral vision. That's pretty scary
I just saw a viral tweet just recently complaining about a picture of cyclops using his optic blast to grill food, and one of the replies said he's basically just "punching the meat with his eyes".
i remember reading the punch dimention explanation in marvel.com, in early 2000s. so that's in my headcanon and i love it.
BEHOLD! OPTIC BLAST!
That's some good canon research!
America's & Cyclops's dimensions can't be the same! America's is full of punches, while Cyclops's dimension contains not punches, but something that turns into something that triggers punches when it leaks into Earth-616/Earth Prime.
I’ve Mandala Effected myself for years thinking it was Cyttorak’s dimension. Completely forgetting it was Juggernaut who gets his powers from there. But what if…
Marvel really complicated Cyke's optic blasts as the years go by. When he was first introduced, Scott's body absorbs solar energy to convert it to optic blasts, he was even able to absorb lightning to do the same. There was even a panel when the beam was able to hold three robbers and made them unable to move as if they were petrified. If Cyke's power came from another dimension, how come there were so many times that he rans out of optic blast?
ok now i want to see cyclops in death battle really badly, just to see wiz and boomstick's reaction to cyclop's punch dimension lol.
Hey another idea for a cyclopes centered video could be why the summers brothers (scott(cyclops), alex( havoc) & gabriel(vulcan)) powers don't work on each other
Cyclops' body generates a field that neutralizes his own beam. That's why he can block it with his hands and his eyelids. The energy of his brother Havoc's powers (and presumably Vulcan's powers) is similar enough that the field also neutralizes those attacks. I'm pretty sure the same applies for Cyclops attacking them.
So could ant man, in theory, enter cyclops's eyes
He'd get punched back out again.
Well, the eye beams are still more useful than the Boxing Glove arrow. It can punch things at a distance _continuously_ (least until he runs out of power) and can be focused for precision or defocused for wider range and has way more concussive force.
Punch Dimension: 1 Boxing Glove Arrow: 0
for a second I thought this was about Punchclops a melee build for Cyclops from the fallen game Marvel Heroes (Omega)
so much nostalgia.... :(
Ok that bears the question how many dimensions are there in the marvel verse
You look like a vampire in this video
ONE PUNCHHHHHHH.... dimension
Watch this is how.he.comes.back.2 life
What is the background music
You look more like Daredevil than Cyclops, not that its a bad thing though
Only three layers? I wear 7, in summer. Heat doesn't bother me.
Good for you.
You just wanted a excuse to wear those glasses didn’t ya Drake?
I specifically bought them for this video. I couldn't find the retro visor or wrap around shades locally. :(
Comic Drake Is it just me or do cyclops' galsses look like daredevils?
Comic Drake Well they look really good on you. Definitely think you should wear them a lot more.
Comic Drake I agree with Zoe, they suit you mate
@@ComicDrake mat merdoc is more what you look like.
But nightcrawler definately travels between dimensions when he teleports right? Genuine question.
He travels through the Brimstone Dimension.
Comic Drake And according to the Star Trek The Next Generatiom X-Men crossover novel he comes out covered in tachyon particles. The same thing happens when the Enterprise goes to Warp speed
Comic Drake thank you.
Yes
Remember that time that demons were retconned into being mutants from really far back, and then it was just never brought up again?
Cyclops is a great character regardless of his flaws.
Debatable
Cyclops has kicked Wolverines ass more than once.
Leetha K7 Plus he saved the mutants from extinction twice: Post House of M, AvX and IvX.
True.
I think his flaws add to his character for the most part.
Lee and Kirby: He shoots lasers out of his eyes.
Comics: Nah bros, that's too simple. His eyes are portals to an alternate dimension.
Lee and Kirby: .....................................................................
Evan Peskoff not lasers, optic blasts
IS THAT A MOTHERFUCKING JOJO REFRENCE?! That just means blasts that come from his eyes. What kind of blasts are they? Laser blasts.
Evan Peskoff but the creators call them optic blasts
IS THAT A MOTHERFUCKING JOJO REFRENCE?! Which creators?
Evan Peskoff the people who made cyclops
DC: There's a speedforce, a streghtforce, a mindforce... And you can access them with an explosion... there's also a special guy to kill those who use them...
Somebody: Sounds legit.
Marvel: And there's a dimension with kinetic energy in it...
Somebody: That's dumb!
Tbf it's mostly the name
lol So true
Laughs in seige force and still force
@@papapapa2856 Oh, we have the Somebody here.
It's pretty simple, his power is the ability to open those portals to the punch dimension. The "solar" portion is not what generates the "punch," but what controls the *aperture* of that portal. By default, only a certain amount of energy flows through the portals, but if he strains himself he can widen that aperture, producing more powerful beams. If he does this too much though, it drains his solar energy reserves. It's basically like trying to hold a valve open that wants to close.
Tim Ogul it's still confusing because he also needs the glasses to keep them closed. When he's not wearing them they fire non- stop. The aperture is always open but it doing so tires him out because it wants to close?
Well, it doesn't tire him out physically, it just tires out his "super power reserves," And yes, it's a strain on his systems while active, but he doesn't have the _option_ of just turning it off. This is because he had brain damage as a child that broke the part of his brain meant to control his abilities, leaving them "always on". Think of it like someone with uncontrollable muscle spasms. It's painful, and it puts strain on their muscles that they would be better off not having, but they lack the ability to "just stop doing it."
The visor doesn't close the apertures. It just harmlessly absorbs the beam (or redirects it back into Cyclops, who then absorbs it harmlessly), using the same energy field that allows Cyclops' own body to safely block the beam. That field is why he can block the beam with his hands and even his eyelids. The same field also harmlessly absorb the beams of his brother Havok, which is how their sibling immunity works..
In the comics, it says that he can shoot enough force to rip a small planet in half. And someone told me that there's no proof of that. Meaning he can't really do that. But can he actually do it?
@@timogul i dont follow the x men comics too much but in do remenber that episode of the show where they used powers on him to make him older and be was able to control his powers
Not sure if anything like that is canon in the main universe but i always though that he could control his powers but he just doesnt know how to do it because of their volatile nature
Is it just me or is the beams' strength wildly inconsistent?
Some of that probably comes from the fact that he can adjust the beam strength with his visor
Alex Larson That's part of it. The other part is considering how big the portals in his eyes really are. Because after AvX the power of the former Phoenix 5 powers were enhanced along with their physical fortitude. For Cyclops it expanded the portals in his eyes, which would've happen normally if continued to train and develop them. So now Cyclops could channel so much power that even his original visor could barely control it. It's also why that had to change his visor. It was now half visor/half reflector. That and he was infected mirco-sentinels so that made his powers even harder to control.
+King Megadon
Yeah, Cyclops has received several power-ups over the years, and it makes sense that different power levels could correspond to different portal sizes. Maybe he can even adjust the portal sizes by squinting. That would give him some limited control without any visor. That's just speculation, though.
Side note: How did you manage to quote my name as "Alex Larson"? Autocorrect?
No I just typed it out.
The beams are blasting continuously at a set lower limit of power that is energetic enough to break bones. Cyclops can increase the force beyond this to an unknown upper limit, and he obviously uses his visor to control the beams to create an effective lower limit of force below the normally fixed level, including stopping the beams altogether. Cyclops has exhausted his ‘energy reserve’ of sunlight in the past when he was younger and before his power level was increased by Krakoa; the continuous blasting effect is not enough to deplete his reserves unless he is starved of all sunlight for a considerable Time or if he attempts to increase the beam’s output to his upper limit for an extended but unknown period of time.
I don't get why punch dimension is silly? I thought it's kinda cool. Like just a dimension of red that pushes stuff away. Sounds easy to explain. And also it makes more sense for his eyes to be portals since he can close his eyes and close the portals. If it's just a constant stream it would blow through his eyelids.
Actually, closing his eyes doesn't close the portal. Instead, as a part of his mutation, his entire body is covered in a field that can harmlessly absorb the beam. That's why he can block it with his hands and even his eyelids. It's also how his visor works: Ruby quartz resonates with the field, giving it the same ability to block the beam.
Finally, it's how his immunity to the powers of his brother Havok works. Their energy signatures (or something like that) are similar enough that the field can absorb Havok's beams as well. Havok has a similar field.
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What do you mean "why?"? The story of Cyclops is fiction, so a dimension of red energy exists because the writer says it does.
In a multiverse of infinite diversity, I don't see the problem with some dimensions being more uniform than others.
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Of course not, but you made it sound like the most implausible part of that story was that this other dimension didn't have any other stuff in it. I would think that eye-portals or the existence of "punch energy" were both much harder pills to swallow than the idea that some alternate dimension in a diverse multiverse is filled only with a certain type of energy.
Short explanation: Because comics!
Zvonimir Tomac no just because Marvel x-men
Because multiple writers!
punch dimension... that's hilarious XD
JustBored Because comics.
The dimension turns out to just be a giant fist
I wish I had punch dimension powers
@@DAntreShivers there must be a slap dimension, pinch dimension, snap dimension... i know it out there somewhere
I would prefer if he were able to absorb extradimensional energies into his body and project it from his eyes, as if his body is a waterpump connect to the ocean and his eyes are likely a nozzle of a fire hose. It's would also make them somewhat similar to how Havok's powers work mechanically speaking. Personally, when I was a kid i always wanted to have his powers be similar to Blackbolt, in that the energies reinforced his body with increased strength and durability. It's would explain why he would get pushed back by his own blasts and why he survive battle trauma that most other people would have died from easily.
JamCal-X One word:
Genius
When I first heard that Cyclops powers were literally just the energy from a portal in his eyes I figured that's how they always worked. What's more it has been shown in the comics that his and Havok's powers are the same, just that Havok can channel it through his entire body and even use the punch dimension as a portal similar to America.
JamCal-X I'm pretty sure being stronger wouldn't stop you from being pushed back, unless you also became heavier.
muntu1221 well, strength is relative to mass
My problem with the pushback question has always been that Scott's physical eyes aren't the thing doing the pushing. Sure the blast fires out of his eyes, but the portal thing already addresses that. The portals themselves are likely not a physical part of Scott's body and thus that would be the reason that he can both see and fire beams at the same time. So recoil wouldn't be going back into Scott's body but rather back into the portals that are already a fire hose of ceaseless kinetic force.
_"I'm being followed by some guy with red glasses, so there's a 10% chance It's daredevil, 10% chance that he actually think they look good on him, and a 9999% chance it's good-ol' scotty"_ -Deadpool
I was always confused about how his optic beams would sometimes burn stuff and other times not. I've seen him use his eyes to weld the x jet together, burn Wolverine, and cause fire for a campfire. But then sometimes it's just... A energy punch
Yes, I have the same doubt about the fight with Wolverine, I always thought that he burned his hand in age of apocalypse (minus the claws)
I think the usual excuse given is friction. His beam heats up objects over time with friction. That can probably explain most of the instances where the writer forgets that the beam is supposed to be heatless.
That's how it was possible for him to cut through adamantium then in order to cut off Wolverine's hand in AoA! The dimensional energy is pure concussive force that is not of this universe!
Am I the only one completely OK with the Punch Dimension explanation or what. It makes perfect sense to me of a dimension made entirely of energy his eyes open portals to and him running out of energy is not confusing, it takes energy to keep the portals open.
I like it too.
Wait, if he would run out of energy and was no longer able to perform optic blast, would he no longer have to wear visors or sunglasses until he recharged?
Yes. I think it has happened on few occasions.
@@FusionFullForce Where does it say that?
@@techfrank2431 Around 2:50. It was talking about how Scott would need to recharge his optic blast, so I reaaoned if he needes to recharge it, he would for a time not be firing his optic blast and there fire not need to wear glasses
(Storm) Did you just use your powers to engrave "Cyclops was here" on the sidewalk.
(Cyclops) I don't know what you're talking about
(Storm) One of you saw it---right?
(Daredevil) I didn't see a thing *Fist bumps scott*
Daredevil didn't see a thing, pft.
Good joke
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Honestly, I like the Punch Dimension more than the solar power explanation. It gives Cyclops his own flavor beyond run-of-the-mill laser vision, and personally I feel it makes more sense. The idea that he can turn such a small about of sunlight into such powerful beams isn’t that realistic either.
You look more like Matt Murdock lol
Can you do a video on the new gods someday ?
They have a very complicated history
Yes.
Comic Drake
yay !
Thanks :)
Great idea man
With those glasses you look like daredevil
That "OPTIC BLAST!" took me way back.
Eduardo Daniel Kucharsky Terrazas i miss Cyclop and all the X-Men in fighting games :'( ...
I like the punch dimension because it does explain how cyclops can generate so much power. I mean it's not like you can just shoot beams out of his eyes, he can't turn the power off and less he closes his eyes or wear special glasses. Plus I love in astonishing X-Men where he fills in entire panel red to take out some sentinels with his highest setting.
The "concussive energy force" to me makes sense. It's just like the Green Lantern's constructs, but straight and red.
The whole dimension made of that though....
Say what you will, I still like to br like Dr. Evil and say he has "Freaking Laser Beams Attached to his head"!
Never though a power so simple could be that complicated.
I actually think the extra dimensional explanation is a lot more interesting than just simply absorbing and converting solar energy, which is so generic and boring imo
i agree. it actually kinda makes more sense. no way his small body can store that much energy.
Kinda hated the its edgy to piss on cyclops turn that Cyclops character took but hopefully the new legacy line will fix it. He was the leader of the xmen and was made to make the tough choices. X( oh well wolverine worship gone waaaay too far i guess
artemismeow i agree. I actually think that cyclops could be an awesome character given the right story and writer
I mean it's not just wolverine worship. Cyclops in many comics has been depicted doing very dickish things and a bit more frequently than many other characters, so it stands out more.
Google 'Superman is a dick' and then come back and tell how much of a dick Cyclops is.
TheNottakenaccount that's fair
@@TheNottakenaccount what are those moments?
I remember reading somewhere that Cyclops' "punch dimension" is actually the realm of Cyttorak. Though I've been unable to find a source on this, it does make sense. Cyttorak was basically this extradimensional god of massive power that would originally empower the Juggernaut, who was so overwhelmingly powerful that telepathic attacks are the only reliable way to beat him. Moreover, Doctor Strange occasionally invokes Cyttorak when casting the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak, wiry magical tethers that were basically unbreakable unless you had the power level of Worldbreaker Hulk or the Infinity Gauntlet. Powers we've seen in the MCU, and I'm amazed Marvel Studios didn't get sued by Fox over it.
Honestly I think the whole idea of the Punch Dimension was to basically differentiate it from Cyclops having guns in his eyes. ...Even though guns kill through focused concussive force.
Thanks for the info
Actually, I think I know a less pseudo-sciencey way to explain cyclops lighting candles with his eyes. He buys and/or modifies candles so he can light them with concussive force, mostly as a party trick, because honestly, it's a cool trick.
Backlog viewer's thought process "nice Matt Murdock cosplay. Oh wait, that's supposed to be a Scott Summers cosplay"
Legend has it Captain Falcon harnesses energy from the punch dimension
nice to see some rose tinted glasses
The concussive force thing has had me scratching my brain, since I thought he projected heat, as a kid. Idk, comics are crazy, cool video!
Sorry my poor english (i'am brazilian):
In my opinion, as a fan of the Cyclops ever since, I prefer the explanation that your body needs to absorb solar energy (to fuel) to keep the portals in your eyes (using the concept of compact internal dimension or pocket dimension) ) open, releasing the optical bursts. For those who have a problem in '' thinking about it '' (or do not know how to have fun with comic books), just accept the summary that Cyclops needs to metabolize solar energy to be able to fire its optic blasts.
In fact, in the pseudo science of comic books, including Marvel, many mutants, with their "fantastic biology" (worthy of a bestiary of fantasy creatures from RPG worlds) play with parallel dimensions:
- Gambit is all the time producing enough kinetic energy to overload objects and shake their molecules to the point of becoming unstable and explosive. But people who do not want to have to 'think hard' sum up their power in the following way: It can saturate an object of kinetic energy and turn it into an improvised grenade. But few wonder what the origin of this infinite kinetic energy is.
- Night Crawler teleports from one place to another, through another dimension (Hell, Brimstone, Limbo, etc). This point of transition to every teleporter jump is mandatory, although it lasts a few thousandths of a second, to the point that Night Crawler does not remember to have gone through such a dimension. This explains how and why, when teleporting, Night Crawler leaves a trail of sulfur.
- Maggik has a teleporting power with the same Night Crawler feature. So did Azazel, father of Night Crawler.
- Havoc, brother of Cyclops, is a transition point between the multiverse: As shown in the comic book '' Mutant X '' and '' Exiles '', Alex Summer may, in a moment of stress, have his mind off of his own body and travel the multiverse. Only your mind can do this teleport and only to incarnate in a \ doppelganger counterpart in an alternate universe in which there is another Havoc \ Alex Summer.
- Kitty Pryde also came to have part of his powers of intangibility explained as transferring his bodily particles to another dimension for an undetermined time. And in the most convenient way possible for her. That would explain why Kitty was '' intangible, '' but still able to speak, see, hear. survive and be seen.
- Cloak & Dagger also have mutant powers that work through interaction with portals and compact dimensions (pocket dimensions).
- Colossus, brother of Maggik, and another relative of Rasputin, has the ability to cause an explosion that allows to invoke an interchangeable metallic battle body (organic steel), coming from another parallel dimension. As your frail human body is sent to this parallel dimension, remaining protected from further damage. However, the mind is the same and both bodies (Piotr Rasputin's human body and Colossus battle body) share the same pains.
But, many people think that Colossus is '' armored, '' as if '' his body was inside a flexible organic steel armor from nothing. '' This was somewhat reinforced by the misinterpretation in Colossus' adaptation of his version for the '' X-Men Animated Series' 'of the 1990s.
And remembering: Interchangeable Battle Bodies is a very old concept, created with the character Shazam \ Captain Marvel! Many characters switch from human bodies to battle bodies after transformations rather than '' mutating '' as many people think. He-Man and Adam; She-ra and Adora; Mighty Young Samson (Hanna-Barbera); Shazam and Billy Batson; Black Adam; Thor and Donald Blake; Kamen Riders (only the top of the Toei TV series); Miracleman (Allan Moore explained this concept very well in this comic book); Darkhawk (Marvel); and many other characters are humans who use magic words, artifacts, magic, or have undergone cyborgs implants to invoke a special surrogate body that turns them into superheroes.
Even Human Torch 2 (Fantastic Four) is a likely interchangeable battlefield user: It literally has a power to swap your human body for a plasma body! He does NOT breathe while in this form. The Human Torch is NOT '' just dressed in fire ''. He became a being of fire.
And if we were to get out of the mutants and move on to other Marvel characters, we would have to talk about Hank Pym and the ant men: The Pym Particles comes from another universe or dimension, called the 'microverse'. To become diminutive, Ant-man sends particles of its own to this alternate dimension and compacts the empty space between its molecules. But to become giant, Hank Pym temporarily absorbs particles of this size to increase his body mass.
Therefore, see NO reason to say that the powers of Cyclops are treated as weird or difficult to think about. ;)
A big hug. It was a great video. ;)
Cyclops is super DUPER kool
appreciate the X-MEN related content man
Cyclops is for sure the most under appreciated mutant of the X-mansion
a lot of times is cos people who knows nothing about the comic books tend to be incapable of seeing how interesting and awesome his character truly is
and the important icon that he will always be for the X-men
there is a reason of why his father and son are badass
Cyclops also has a lot of that in his blood
The alternative dimension thing could work if done right. Say Havoc and Cyclops enter the punch dimension to find out how there powers. They discover it's actually called The Chaos realm or the Crimson Cosmos and it's inhabited by Cyttarok. Cyttarok is an interdimensional god who loves anarchy and he also empowered Jaugernaut .
In the chaos realm the normal laws of physics and gravity don't apply. Cyclops and havoc can use solar radiation to open portals to the chaos realm and can harness the gravitational energy into kinetic concusssive blasts or waves. Harnessing the gravitational energy also gives them enhanced strength, speed, agility and stamina.
In the Chaos realm Havoc and Cyclops become omega level mutants with the power to manipulate gravity, open portals in and out of the chaos realm and even fly.
Okay so how abt this: cyclops uses the solar energy to open the eye portals. He can run out of energy to open the portals however so that explains the fact he can run out.
This is the first time I've heard of the punch dimension. I love the concept. I wonder if Antman can ride a ruby vehicle into Scott's eyes and enter the puch dimension? You know...... because comics.
Try to understand Cyclops's optic blasts kind of reminds of that old saying about understanding the Vietnam War: the more questions you, ask, the more questions you get.
I like it👍 it's perfectly explained. Punch dimension just sparked new interest in Cyclops.
It was explored, a bit, in one of the earlier issues of the first X-Men: First Class run. Either #3 or #4, but through Doctor Strange, Scott and the X-Men learn more about how his powers work, which fits the explanation of "his eyes are portals to another dimension", and they even visit the dimension. I know those "First Class" runs are looked over, as they very much were aimed at all-ages, but there were some gems in them that made them worth reading that expanded on what we already know from those early days of the X-Men.
The things that I propose is that Marvel should just say something like this that Cyclops can shoot his eye beams from multiple energy sources that he can also take the energy from the Sun take the energy from another dimension and take the energy from solar radiation which could clear up the fact that multiple times shown he was able to use his beams blow things up that wouldn't be natural or set things on fire and using the energy sources very for each beam if you were to use the energy from the other dimension it would just shoot concussive blasts list of pure energy for solar radiation it would allow him to shoot basically fire
Love your content man. Hope you’re doing alright xxx
Punch Dimension is dope, just a dimension of constant power, no can live in it, just take from it, i like that idea, maybe the name could change but its a dope idea
NEW VIDEO! And like dem' glasses Drake
I know the glasses are supposed to be because Cyclops but with the suit you look more like Matt Murdock.
Honestly i think its kinda cool. If they did a story where he learned to adjust it to the light and dark dimensions it could be pretty interesting.
2:56 you’d think Scott wouldn’t wear a shirt so as to absorb more sunlight
Yes I found this out in 15 seconds when I was looking at his powers on marvel wiki...
Cool then you might want to actually watch the video since that's not accurate.
Comic Drake yeah I did cool vid I didn't know there was so much actually history behind it but it's still technically Canon as you said at the end which is why I saw it as it was
00:01 whoa whoa whoa! What about Wolverine? Everyone knows Wolverine. I would imagine more people knew who Wolverine before any other X-man.
Original X-Men. Wolverine is not one of them.
i get that drake wanted to get glasses like cyclopse , but bro those are daredevils
Wolverine's hands are portals to the claw dimension, end of discussion
I want to see a story where Cyclops gets a temporary upgrade and can open dimensional portals with his eyes. Not just the 'punch' dimension.
Love the Daredevil glasses. Totally got what you were going for with red Cyke glasses, but those are totally Matt Murdock lol
For people wondering any times his blast make fire like that candle in the beginning it's cause of friction (check back to your 7th grade science class for more info about that) and he only stops/runs out/reaches his limit when his physical body can't take it he can't just blast an optic beam with the power of a nuke without probably going unconscious afterwards or just during the attempt to do so
When Scott Summers was in the school toilet the ceiling was smoking
I love Cyclops
I still remember the comic where the X-Men traveled to Arkon's world. Scott was shown to be able to absorb energy to use for his optic blasts. They literally charge him up with Storm's lightning.
but is every other case energy has affected him normally so is this wrong or that one time wrong.
You know, maybe the punch dimension is where all the stuff that The Hand erases goes to.
Yes
I want the spirit of his mother to be the guardian of the Punch Dimension.
I just came across this and it gets even more confusing because if you go back in X-Men books there is a shared immunity between the Summers brothers (Scott & Alex) powers. Hmmm, I may have to reference your video and bring this up else where.
This is the first time running into your channel and the first video I've seen of yours. I haven't seen anyone do this topic and found it fun informative and your look is so right for the video. I subbed.
I'm glad you liked it! I try to specialize in stuff nobody really talks about so I hope you enjoy the other videos on the channel and that you'll like the ones coming in the future. :)
1:43 Actually fire is orange and yellow
So is that the same place Alex Summers gets his Havoc causing abilities.
From now on, when I play as Cyclops in Marvel Vs Capcom 2, I'm going to end every match saying "Cyclops Wins: Punchality"
Nice video! For some reason I thought that the dimension was Cyttorak(Crimson Cosmos). Same thing that gives Juggernaught his powers (the Gem of Cyttorak) and Dr. Strange uses the Crimson bands of Cyttorak.
Colossus's metal skin also comes from an alternate universe, Nightcrawler travels through one when he teleports (as does Cloak), and I think someone even said Wolverines claws were interdimensional once to explain why they were longer than his forearms. :P
Damn Drake looks great today with those shades. 😁😁
During fatal attractions the xmen used cyclops eyeblasts refocused through a machine to weld an injury on colossus forehead that kept him from changing into his human form.
Why is The Punch Dimension an unacceptable explanation? We found out Nightcrawler teleports not from one point in space in this universe to another but some Brimstone dimension. So there's precedent. Perhaps most if not all mutants have some connection with one of many dimensions and that's one factor in how their powers manifest or generate energy. I'd be okay with that.
Awesome glasses!
Yeah a lot of questions, like for number one if Visa portals to a universe made of nothing but concussive force but the portals are only activated via solar energy, then each sun should be surrounded by nothing but thieves portals basically concussive blast. Secondly, she should have been instantly crushed to Oblivion the moment she went into that dimension since it is nothing but pure endless concussive Force, because by it being pure concussive force doesn't that mean it's basically a dimension you kind of can't move in because it's like being in a dimension made of nothing but concrete.
So if one were to manually transport themselves to this Punch Dimension, would they be greeted by endless Kenshiro punches?
America Chavez (and for that matter any dimension hopping character via actual portals) is waaaay OP. They can literally end the book. "Oh it's Thanos. Go hang out in the Punch Dimension. Superman? Go hang out in the Darkforce Dimension." You can beat pretty much any non-cosmic/High-Father tier character with that power. Plus she's super strong, fast and invulnerable. O freakin' P.
Sadly enough this subject was never up for debate in the 90's because WE KNEW ALREADY that Scott's eyes were portals to the Crimson Cosmos.
*sigh*
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