Apple M2 Max MacBook Pro - 100 Hours Later: Too Much Power
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- Is this the new top-tier MacBook to get? After spending 100+ hours with this powerhouse, here’s my honest review of the Apple M2 MacBook Pro. Some will say it’s only a spec bump with very little change, but there’s more to the MacBook Pro M2 this year. Thanks CleanMyMacX for sponsoring this video.
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Apple M2 MacBook Pro - 100 Hours Later: Too Much Power - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
What do you guys think? M2: overkill or worthy upgrade?
Overkill for 90% but i'd imagine a god send for everyone else.
I just ordered a refurbished M1 Max with 64gb of RAM based on this review. Great stuff.
Apple silicon is still hotly impressive so whether or not it's overkill for an individual doesn't negate that it's great silicon and architecture. Loved the fair review.
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I have a M1 Pro 14 mid range with 32 Gb of ram. Paid 2800 and had it since November. I’m a professional in the creative industry. I feel kinda sorry for anyone who has an M1 Pro and thinks they need to get rid of it for this one, because they are just feeding into the Apple marketing ploy. And people asking for substantial upgrades within a year of a groundbreaking laptop release is just wild. What that would mean is everyone would stop buying mid to high end because why on earth would they want their device to become mediocre in only a year?! That, or they want to start leasing laptops because again, why pay a ton if the value is depreciated that fast. No thanks.
Great review! thanks for sharing!
11:05 yep the refurb approach for the m1 max is a brilliant suggestion and one I'm thinking about
everyone always raving about the 14" size vs the 16" size. nah, i don't mind traveling with a bigger screen size.
Great review, I liked the apple refurbished program mention at the end. I still have the 2020 i5 MacBook Pro and it works great but I'll probably buy refurbished when this one gives out. "Macbook Maximum"
Great Review!
great information. thanks
Great review, you covered features I didn't even know were included and went into more detail on HDMI. I hope you make an updated video about the best monitors for Mac now that we have HDMI 2.1 or even the new Mac displays hopefully this year. "MacBook maximum"
Mac Display is definitely on the radar!
@@AndrewEthanZeng great! I would like to know your thoughts on it. I’m picking one up soon but still would like to hear what you have to say! Thanks!
I second that.
Love the Hamilton watch bro looks great on you and compliments your style and personality ! Shouldn’t have expected anything less from you!
Reason big enough to win me over to M2 and the solution to a slower SSD speeds. As always, much appreciated review!
Thank you!
Hey what’s the name of your monitor? I’m looking into one with my M2 Max!
First time viewer. Very well done. Subscribed.
Hey great review and focused on some fringe details other reviews haven't yet. I'd love to see more on VRR and how you use your Mac in a desk setup for work
Noted!
I’d love to get the M2 Max, but, as you’ve said, it would only give bragging rights. However for me, the 16” is my choice.
Unfortunately, the ssd speed is downgrade from M1 pro
@@HariyantoDeng Its only in 256Gb version
I have an M2 Max MBP, a CalDigit TS4 and two 4K LG 27UN850 displays.
CalDigit says in their literature that the M2 Max MBP can run two 4K displays @60Hz when connected to the CalDigit TS4 via Thudnerbolt4.
The best performance I seem to get is two 4K displays at 30Hz when connected to the CalDigit TS4.
However, if I connect the two 4K displays directly to the MBP I do get 4K @60Hz.
CalDigit support does not have a solution currently.
Has anyone had this issue and have you found a work around?
noticed the current price difference is only $150 usd to jump from the pro with a 32 gb upgrade to the base Max with the upgraded cpu and gpu. Would it be worth the upgrade for the minimal cost?
Wait to go to recommend the refurbished last year’s model! The M2, while it is amazing,90% of people I see buying it will never use 50% of the M1’s base model’s potential
How does it run for temperature when you push or just using it on lap, my last Mac is like having a hot plate on your lap especially if you try video rendering which mine also struggles with on intel quad core I7 2.3ghz on 16GB RAM
Good review
Is that the LG 40 inch ultra wide? If so how do you like it? Does your m2 take a performance hit running it?
It sure is. No noticeable performance hit running it through via the CalDigit TS4 dock.
I edit content on a daily for another channel and for my own content as well as doing a lot of graphic design in Affinity Photo and editing with Davinci Resolve/ Final Cut Pro.
Do you think it would make sense to get the 64GB memory?
Good review. I bought the 12 core and 1TB model, not the max. They are all great machines. I also have an LG OLED TV so the HDMI output capability rules out the M1. Beautiful machines.
What is your experience with the battery and fan noise on upgraded version?
@@player_e7 I haven’t heard the fans but I haven’t stressed it either yet. The battery life seems amazing to me. My subjective impression is it is better than my MBA M1. Lovely machine
May I ask what is that darker colour Mac Pro? Really nice! But does not look like space Grey.
MacBook maximum! Great video
Andrew, based on your buying price I presume you have the 30-core? Right? Would be great to see a video with some benchmarks 30-core vs 38core. :)
Correcto! I'll keep this in mind for the long tere review :)
@@AndrewEthanZengHow is it a ‘variant’ then? I thought 30 core is the base model for 14inch Max. Did you change any other configuration?
Hi, I like your monitor, could you kindly give me the details and link to check it out please
Has throttling been an issue with your 14 max?
Would you recommend upgrading RAM to 64gb when running windows parallels? Thanks in advance.
Depends what you’re doing with parallels. Typically however, 32GB is plenty
Still don't know why Apple won't put this M2 Max in the Mac Studio. Shouldn't that be a fairly easy implementation?
I can’t wait for the day that you can play triple A games on a ARM architecture. Maybe one day consoles will start using ARM graphics to create powerful mobile games on iPads and iPhone which they are. But true ARM processors on consoles will be amazing!
2:01 What is the metallic headphone stand you are using at time stamp 2:01?
how is the thermals of this laptop
Hey
I am confused between buying a
M2 air 16/512 10 core gpu which costs $1700 in my country vs a
Discounted new base 14 M1 Pro at $2070
For reference a new base M2 pro costs $2450
Apple products are around 20-25% more expensive in my country than the US.
My usage is mainly content consumption, light to moderate video and photo editing and extensive use of the Microsoft office suite.
Which one should I pick and is the screen and 120hz promotion display as much better than the Retina display on the air to justify the $300 dollar difference since I’m already stretching my budget a bit with the m2 air upgraded spec.
It would be awesome if you could give some insight.
Id say go for base 14 M1Pro. Too much of an upgrade over Air, especially better screen and ports.
Buy the M1
There is only 20% difference
And u will never ever use that much power. Also get the 16 one
I agree with the comments above. Go for a new or refurb M1 Pro/Max, and keep the change towards the next large leap in performance when you need it.
I would like to buy one since I use to be really big in photography and photo editing. Needing an external hard drive, I found myself finding post-processing more annoying and would really like to get a computer that can handle 2TB of photos and also all the photo editing. So… 14 inch MacBook Pro Max with 4TB of storage. That seems appropriate? I mean, it’s probably still more processing power than I need.
What do you recommend, the (Macbook pro 16’) M2 max 32GB or the M1 max 64GB, and why, for video editing (After Effect, Premiere, Photoshop)
I need an answer to this !
M2 Max. Way improved performance with low amounts of RAM compared to M1
The 14" size is the goldilocks size for everything EXCEPT THERMAL THROTTELING.
WHY ARE WE SCREAMING?
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@@whengrapespop5728 Oh sorry, it was my Max Tech impression. I should have mentioned that ;)
@@djem_music4765 Bless you
Thanks for the honest opinion. But I find it surprising that most people actually won’t get much out of the max unless they are crazy users. I feel like most people are fine with an air. Do you feel like it’s worth it for students?
If you need the power and are on a student's budget, I'd personally go down the refurbished M1 Max path.
Unless you're a trust fund baby :)
Yes air is perfect for studenta
You don’t need a M1 Max refurb for student work lol that’s overkill. You can get away with an m1 MacBook Air refurb. Or M1 Pro 14” if you really need the extra power.
depends on the kind of student.. if it's a student studying AI the air is insufficient for example..
@@acasualviewer5861 Those students know if they need the extra power though and for those who don’t know if they need it, they probably don’t need the M1 Max chip for basic student work.
Nice video. I’m currently in the market for a MacBook. I’m planning to use Windows parallel. Do you think I should upgrade the ram higher than 32gb? Mainly use this for simple cad work and simple 3d . I might get into rendering in the future
CAD?! Wrong use case. You will need a workstation (mini-supercomputer) from a PC line. Either HP Fury or Dell Precision. You can still have a MacBook, but for personal use only. CAD level work is Windows OS extreme.
@@akin242002 thanks. We will see how long it last. I'm trying out the 64 gb version with Parallels and it seems like it's working fine.
@@michaelta4322 I am certain your Mac will work just fine with CAD. I had a 2014 MacBook Pro with 16gb ram and spec'd out at the time. It worked perfectly fine for my CAD classes
@@JakeHolder awesome thanks for the reassurance! I'm coming from a MacBook with about the same specs... unfortunately the only thing that popped out on me was the flexcable to the screen is having issues causing the screen to be flicker and blackout when opened... everything else is good. Never ran parallels until now and it's running great so far.
Person who's never used or owned a Mac here. I'm thinking about the M2 Max 16in. It will be used for video editing and just web browsing & image editing. No gaming or anything more intense than video editing (either Kdenlive or Adobe Premier). Is 64gb RAM overkill? Trying to decide if 32gb is fine long term. Don't want to get to a point where I wished I had more memory.
i would get 64. speaking from experience
32 gb is excellent!
Nice. One question. Is it absolutely safe to use a mac laptop in clamshell mode everyday? I need to upgrade and not sure if a laptop is the best option. I need the portability but not every day. Actually rarely but still need a machine i can take with me when needed. And i cannot afford a desktop and a laptop apparently
I don't think you'll have any kind of problems. Just be sure to properly limit tha maximum % the battery can charge to in the settings (I'd say keep it at 75-80%), in order to preserve it
Apple has consciously designed MacBooks to work with clamshell mode and I've never run into a problem over the years. So we're good to get clammy
One way to look at it: Compared to the old Intel MacBook Pro, the M1/M2 is much safer to use as a desktop. The risks of using a laptop as a desktop in the past are a high workload will heat it up too much when closed, making the fans noisy, the battery will always be at 100% (bad), and the battery will be hot because the laptop is hot (100% charge plus high heat is even worse for the battery).
Apple Silicon laptops improve all of that. They run cool even under most loads, so the fans are rarely at maximum and are therefore quiet. The cool running means the battery doesn’t get as hot as in an Intel. Also, macOS now has Battery Optimization which you should turn on if using as a desktop. Battery Optimization learns your charging patterns and eventually limits your maximum charge when on AC (unless you want to manually top off because you’re taking it with you). Battery Optimization in combination with lower temperature helps preserve the battery. For more control over battery charge limiting on AC, there is software such as AlDente.
I agree with the video: Since I got my M1 Pro MacBook Pro, I have stopped thinking I might need a desktop too. Instead I plug the MacBook Pro into a Thunderbolt hub connected to displays and storage, and then it's a pretty good desktop.
HI BRO , I NEED SAME KEYBOARD U HAVE PLS . FROM WHERE ?
I just got the M2 Max with 64GB and 1TB just a day ago ... last MACBpro was purchased in 2013 so anything is better. Putting it through the paces for photography ... still figuring it out.
How are you liking it? Was 64gb overkill? I am currently in this same boat
@@JakeHolder of course 64 go is overkill lmao
@@JakeHolder I think for someone who buys a new laptop every 8+ years, you want to be getting the best you can for longevity sake, you'll be glad of that 64gb ram in 5 years time, guaranteed, it's for sure what I'm eyeing up
I just want to never close chrome tabs. Sometimes i have tabs open for weeks or months bc i tell myself to come back to the page later lol…. It’s a problem😂😂🤷♂️
@AndrewEthanZeng
First, thank you for your video. Second, I am in a dilemma, I don't know should I buy a MBP M1 Max with 14 core GPU, 32GB RAM, 10 Core CPU or MBP M2 Max with 30 Core GPU, 32GB RAM, 12 Core CPU which the price difference is 700 dollars (both 1 TB ssd)? I am a developer and mainly use the laptop for coding not video editing, although sometime I do video editing but I think 30 Core GPU is too many for me. RAM is important to me and CPU mainly. any suggestion?
Inless you really need it... wait for refurbished m2 pro mac mini or M1 mscbook 14, it will be a lot cheaper and just as good. I happily use a 13 M1 macbook Pro, it has no sd card slot... oh no... just use a sandisk usb c card reader... here are work arounds. Soon there will be a M3 then a M4, you maybe able to upgrade your phone every few years, but upgrading mac top end laptops is a lot more expensive.
I use excel spreadsheets a lot, and am a windows user. Should I change to mac?
No if u cant accept using stupid mouse n keyboard keys
jet black would be the best color possible!
Hi Andrew. Thanks ur rev.
I cant see ur gpu (30 or 38). I return 16" m2 pro 32 gb, 1 tb for m2 max 30 gpu 64 gb (other same) . I use statistics program (intel app inc jamovi), web, office and 4k editing. I want use only mac screen and 16" (and escape thermal).
Is 30 gpu and 38 gpu different only gpu number? Codec, decode numbers and ram is same? Are you any thermal issue ur config. And ur battery time how much? Plase help me i dont wanna second time return.
Man, it is getting hard to keep all the reviews straight. Could have sworn I just watched one that said do not buy the 14" because of heat related throttling. The 16" did not have that. Time to go spelunking through my History and rewatch. It seems, the safest bet for those not wanting to nit pick every spec to make sure they don't get screwed by Apple...buy an M1 Pro or Max machine. Those seem to be all winners. With the M2, you have to make sure you get one with 2 SSD chips or else you get slow speeds...and then my mention earlier about Thermal related throttling (th-cam.com/video/wakmaa5_GQk/w-d-xo.html).
I’m a year behind so looking at 14”M2 Max 12/30 1tb 32gb or mbp m3pro 12/18 18gb.
Both same price had last mbp for over 10years so either would be a massive improvement.
I know the m3pro would be great but edging towards M2 Max for the ram.
are you able to add more RAM on a 2020 MacBook Pro that you already have?
No.
I saw a video on the 14 inch max thermal throttling and dropping its speed massively under load, have you tested this?
Yeah don't get the m2 max on the 14". Stick with the base config 14" m2 pro to get the best thermals. If you want m2 max I would suggest getting the 16" because its larger chassis provides better thermals. If you want more info I would watch Just Josh's video on the new m2 macbook pros.
@@andy5434 About about the 30 core gpu though. I only ever see videos about the 38 core one.
@@Evenaardez I would do more research but In Josh’s video the m2 pro 19 core gpu in the 14” still had really bad thermals and loud fan noise compared to the m2 pro 16 core gpu which was dead silent and had good thermals. So, anything higher than the base m2 pro 16 core gpu in the 14” is going to have bad thermals.
@@andy5434 Hmm I saw, I wonder if the m1 is just better then
The 14 M2 Max looses 30% power due to thermal issue
MacBook oxygen! 😂
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this is an amazing review
VRR is supported. Can confirm
Couple times wrong info
1 - chrome is not a electron app
2 - you can install spotify as a pwa (so also no electron)
3 - 15inch macbook does not exist 16 inch is also the max.
4 - why 14 inch sweetspot, ok valid, but you didn't talk about the much better screen, larger touchpad, more battery and better thermals vs 13 inch
5 - what M1 chip are you talking about ? M1, M1 pro or m1 max?
6 - 16gb not enough for apps like chrome? I have 2.5gb in use and 100 tabs open.
7 - just so you know an electron app takes around 256mb.
My 16" M2 MBP (Pro, 12-Core CPU, 19-Core GPU, 16GB Unified Memory, 1TB SSD) is a few weeks old. Absolutely love the great keyboard, vivid beautiful display, touchID is such a joy, and the sound quality is just beyond. The fit and finish, the array of ports, fantastic. The one thing I was wary of was the massive touch pad, which I thought was unnecessarily large, but I was wrong. There's no false input because your palm is resting on it, and it's just great. It charges very quickly, and sips power. This 2023 model had big shoes to fill. It was a replacement for my 2012 15" MBP which had been an absolute workhorse for 10+ years. The 2023 MBP has exceeded my expectations in every respect, so far.
Macbook Maximum?
your desk mat?
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I just got the same model. It is totally worth it. I am one of those users that can't stand the '1s lag" you mentioned.
One feedback.
Please provide geekbench scores in a side by side comparison graph style. That is easier to see and understand.
Por favor, es un portátil, porque no analizan la bateria ! de verdad ustedes usan el computador ? porque si fuera así, analizarían la bateria, es un portátil eso es muy importante
16” is my choice
I need "too much power." Graphics work is very, VERY intensive.
If I'm a heavy photoshop user, will the M2 Pro be a bad purchase for me? Wouldn't it be better to have a 13th Intel laptop a better purchase? I can't imagine how 3,4 ghz could possibly outperform a chip that can sustain 6ghz
Dude I have macbook pro and I use illustrator ive been using this M1 for 6 months now and ive never heard it running fans.. Dude that is unbeliveblly crazy as heck. On the other hand intel is struggling be it 13,14,15th generation
@@randomaiuser intel is not struggling. It is called adequate cooling. This m2 trash is designed to overheat. Imagine paying 3k+ for an overheating piece of junk with a slower ssd than last years model
@@OnceABustAlwaysABust Imagine going Intel over Silicon for professional creative work in 2023.
The M2 Pro is excellent, we enjoy superior performance on our MacBooks because Apple Silicon is designed to support real world apps while Intel is stuck with a 1980s mindset which relies on ridiculously high clock rates that runs unconsciously hot and consumes irresponsible amounts of power.
Clock rate is nonsense, it is marketing BS that Intel is still clinging onto because tear are decades behind on innovation.
Go to a real Apple Store and try them out for yourself to see how the Apple Silicon processors actually deliver faster real world performance.
@@whengrapespop5728 imagine using apple silicon for anything other than final cut pro which nobody uses in the movie industry. Apple silicon is a toy for wannabe youtubers. This is the single use case for it
lost opportunity to talk about thermal throttling. But I guess you were fine within your use case
i like the mac book pro bacause of the profomece
“Apps like Chrome and Spotify run on a framework called Electron” at 5:42 is not true but you are close. Chrome has never been based off Electron, Electron is based on Google Chromes open-source derivative called Chromium. Chromium is just Google Chrome without Google bookmark sync and Google defaults.
But to your point
On your dock I see two electron apps, Spotify and Figma. If you were to open Google Chrome, Spotify, and Figma at the same time you would essentially have 3 copies of Google Chrome running at once. And we all know how much of a memory hog just one instance of Chrome is.
Thanks for clarifying in detail, a couple of viewers chimed in on this too. A combination of more RAM bandwidth and using efficiently-built apps is ideal.
Notion is also Electron fyi
yall are so annoying acting like the 16 inch is too big lol.
nice
Too much power! Maybe for some.
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If someone does 3d work they should go with Nvidia discrete gpu, not this crappy machine which can't be upgraded and will always be slower than Nvidia discrete gpu. Also it can be upgraded anytime once powerful gpu arrives in market.
Andrew Tate. I just purchased the 16" Mac Book Pro Max 98G 4Terra 38 Core and this shit screams!!! Not going to lie... I'll take it over an M1 any day!!!
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MacBook Air for coding? What!!! 🤔
Ohh god i have sell my both kidney. Living in third world countries the prices are skyhigh. Anyone please 😂 donate me a laptop.
Can't afford to sell my both kidneys. Can you donate me one laptop sir, please 🥺 😍😍😍😍😍.
Your voice makes me extremely sleepy
no such thing as to much power , besides we need even more power to get into gamming on mac properly which they stil lack the power for gamming is a different leage over video editing and music
Mac is not for games go play on xbox or ps
@@randomaiuser just goes to further show you have no idea what your talking about the m1 and m2 perhaps suck at games tho there ar some that run rather great tho. itell macs run games just fine how ever i dont play pussy xbox macines i like the PS4 much better thanks I had xbox machines before and they are junk
There is such thing as too much power. A middle school student with a $3,000 MBP M2 Max is unnecessary.
If you use bias can you please say so. YOUR idea of the ideal size is NOT leading here. I stopped watching your review because of it, since I think reviews should take the bias of the reviewer serious and not present it as truth. Just a friendly advise.