The game having integrity in this context means fans and gamblers believe the results are real and not manipulated that is a direct impact on their money.
@@Kinogotiate Well yeah, but that's the thing: they only have to create the perception of authenticity and integrity. Now I'm not saying they haven't been authentic so far, but if it happens -- and it almost certainly will at some point -- where an All Star level player or even a coach or owner is not only betting on games they're involved in but also manipulating it, the NBA will almost certainly focus on some kind of cover up and keeping the perception of integrity rather than prosecuting it fully and changing the rules etc because to do so risks blowing the whole thing up and killing the golden goose. I mean there's too much money now in gambling to not have guys start taking risks, especially super competitive types like athletes. And the higher salaries today are irrelevant when it comes to that.
It's the gamblers. Especially now it's the gamblers believing the games aren't rigged. The top concern as far as fans are concerned is maximizing entertainment for the top markets + fanbases. That's why it's a priority that the Lakers, GSW, and LeBron be in the playoffs, and no one cares about the Jazz or Grizzlies making it
@@gf4670Gambling has always existed and we haven't ever seen that. The penalties are clearly stiffer then ever. Really, did Tim Donaghy blow the whole thing up? He got banned and went to prison.
The people using bet gm aren't barred from betting per their million dollar contracts. I'm not sure why you can't make that connection. Total Jontay Porter IQ.
I don’t think gambling and drugs are the same threats to a league. If I ran the league I’d let guys come back if they get clean and sober…. What porter did is malicious
Do you believe he's the only one ? All the pro sports leagues are swimming in the gambling pool , then act shocked when someone gets caught. No one should bet on sports,the house wins 84% of the time, keep your money in your pocket.
Lions cowboys playoff game in Dallas as I watched it was clear & present that the officials refs responsible for the safety & integrity of the game were not going to allow Detroit Lions to win in Dallas against cowboys
What about the scandals in the early 60s? Many players got banned from the NBA including the great Connie Hawkins. And they did not get into the NBA until they went to court.
@@kdevinturner8778 Thats fair. I just find it moronic that the leagues themselves condemn gambling for their athletes yet every single sports league damn near is sponsored by Draft Kings or some other betting site.
I don’t believe it’s hypocritical at all. Many NASCAR drivers are sponsored by beer and liquor companies, that doesn’t mean it is hypocritical that they didn’t want their drivers to drink behind the wheel
I just checked in and Dan goes in on the Lions/Michigan. Did anyone bring up the Lions and gambling? Yes, my dad watches this show just like all old people
Fans who are mad about the ban don't understand the implications this. If NBA don't do anything about this it can be detrimental to the game as a whole. This thing is also illegal in football.
Giving somebody a lifetime ban and then leaving the door open for a reinstatement is one thing if the reason is drug or alcohol related, but when the reason for a “lifetime” ban is literally a direct action against the integrity of the game, then that’s something totally different. I can understand if the NBA gave Porter the shoeless Joe Jackson, Pete Rose treatment.
What'd be interesting to see is if someone gets caught backing themselves a la Calvin Ridley. I imagine the punishment would still be substantive, but how much less than Porter would be interesting to see.
Want to hear a good one? A congressman gives a government contract deal to his buddy. Then he buys stock in that company. Then the news announcement is made, and he makes a boatload of money. However people who hedged (bet against) the stock lose money. How is that different than an NBA player giving confidential information to a bettor, and manipulating the results for his own benefit? Answer: the first one is legal. Unfortunately we care more about our sports teams than we do about those who make the laws and govern us.
As a bonus, the congressman gets kicked back money in the form of campaign donations, and he uses it against his opponent by smearing him with negative advertisements. And we stay distracted…
There is a difference between being banned for gambling and being banned for violating the drug policy. Whether or not he is officially banned for life, he is effectively banned for life because no team will want anything to do with him.
These gambling platforms might have moree integrity than the leagues do, as soon as that changes, which it will, it will hollow out professional sports, maybe almost kill it
NHL playoffs in full swing. And ol Dem dan is beating the tired nba drum. You know, I love Bruce Lee and Chuck Norris. Alot of people do. Maybe Dem dan could shake things up.
Really really stupid for Jontay to do that. I understand that he doesn't make as much money as an NBA player that's not in the G-league but risking and losing your 400k salary for bets in the 10ks (I think he only won 20k in total after making all those bets, lost a lot) is beyond stupid. He's gonna have to continue his playing career overseas. BTW, I wish the NBA would crack down this hard and fast on players involved in domestic violence & illicit relationships with minors (*cough* Giddey) like they just did with Jontay on illegal gambling
What set off the investigation was a $80,000 dollar bet placed on Jontay that had a payout of $1.2 million. The person placing the bet was someone Jontay knew. If they had kept the bets small and not gone for a homerun the books wouldn't have been investigated. I'm sure anytime a book has to payout $1.2 million their fraud department starts to look. The money was obviously never paid out.
Bro shoulda taken advantage of his opportunity and earned a 20 mill a year contract … his team was tanking and giving young guys a shot instead he took advantage for a quick buck… not to mention how stupid do you have to be to place a 80K parlay to win a mill involving the under on all your stats the same night you just so happen to sit out cuz of a random llness you don’t think they gonna flag that. 😂
They need to sell the Raptors. That org is a dumpster fire. First they're stealing plays from playoff teams still ending in the lottery and now they hire bums to ruin the integrity of the league. Close it up for good.
What is the bigger crime what Porter did or what the NBA does every night with crooked officiating. A lottery draft order determined in secret. Trades made to benefit big name franchises. Corrupt from the top to the bottom. All major sports networks are in business with the NBA.
I mean his brother got the huge bag and idk why this dude would do this like cmon. I mean sure his bro money ain’t his but I’m sure if he wanted some nicer stuff here or there, his brother woulda got him but wtf does this dude need
Here's a theory: they bring this out right before Nuggets- Lakers to disrupt his brother in a playoff series where they're trying to make Lebron James better than Jordan.
Adam Silver said," “There is nothing more important than protecting the integrity of NBA competition..." yet the NBA continually encourages betting on specific players and games. In a desperate move for more revenue the league also set up a trash tournament allowing teams as bad as 30 games below .500 a second chance to get into the playoffs.
All the gambling companies and mobsters getting into bed with Professional Sports, and people are surprised this is happening??? It's only going to get worse.
Angel Hernandez (questionable calls) and banging drums in MLB. The NBA which always seems to have gambling issues -- refs AND players. And the NFL which is full of bad beats, script rumors and plenty of incentive and pay disparity between participants. Might as well gamble on WWE... At least they admit to being "Sports Entertainment."
Porter is repleacable. The Commisoner made an example out of him. If he would have been a SUPERSTAR of the league like Michael Jordan, LeBron James or Shohei Otani, he would have been protected and given a pass. There are privileges that some people get that others don't. The man who makes the most money makes the rules.....It's the American way.
No Patrick, not true about integrity! We know there’s referees and judges in various sports that’s been involved in cheat scandals but they hide it! So stop with the pontificating view!
Why you had a a great job put a ball in a basket and make 2 million a year you just throw it a way for gambling millions of people wish that they had his gift to put a ball in a basket and make a lot of money
Not really, Casinos, Racetracks, Bingo Halls all have restrictions on their employees gambling all of which do nothing but promote gambling. Hell, a store owner cannot cash a lottery ticket. The leagues allow players to gamble on anything except their own sport for integrity reasons like this dumbass has created, if the players are that dumb that they are willing to bet on their sport and lose their career that is on them not the league. That being said I don't think the leagues should have ANY involvement with the gambling sites it looks bad and creates controversy.
Yes, punishes employees who can directly change the outcome of the game. Same for companies like the one I work for, if I buy/sell stock based on insider knowledge I will be fired and possibly jailed.
Why don’t you know more about what you’re trying to talk about. Banned means banned. Duh!!! Perhaps with a chance for reinstatement after 2 years if the person gets professional therapy. You don’t know that? Banned means banned, period. Duh!!!
There is no way they will let him back in. Gambling is one thing, but gambling on your own stats to go under is absolutely insane.
Steppin over dollars to pick up dimes
Ok Michael Saylor 😂
Pennies...not even dollars
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Exactly. Gaming apps are the easiest way for govts to get extra tax from the ignorant.
Word
Oh the irony.
He gave up $400000 a year for 20k......
Definitely in contention for the Worst bet ever!
You have to assume that the $80,000 bet that would of paid out 1.1 million was probably Porter's money but the bet wasn't accepted by the sports book.
@@stevensullivan1664accepted not paid out
They aren't out there because of their logic and reasoning skills
@@colonelJ77 Truth.
0:50 - Not quite Dan. Nothing is more important to these commissioners than MONEY.
The game having integrity in this context means fans and gamblers believe the results are real and not manipulated that is a direct impact on their money.
@@Kinogotiate Well yeah, but that's the thing: they only have to create the perception of authenticity and integrity. Now I'm not saying they haven't been authentic so far, but if it happens -- and it almost certainly will at some point -- where an All Star level player or even a coach or owner is not only betting on games they're involved in but also manipulating it, the NBA will almost certainly focus on some kind of cover up and keeping the perception of integrity rather than prosecuting it fully and changing the rules etc because to do so risks blowing the whole thing up and killing the golden goose. I mean there's too much money now in gambling to not have guys start taking risks, especially super competitive types like athletes. And the higher salaries today are irrelevant when it comes to that.
It's the gamblers. Especially now it's the gamblers believing the games aren't rigged.
The top concern as far as fans are concerned is maximizing entertainment for the top markets + fanbases. That's why it's a priority that the Lakers, GSW, and LeBron be in the playoffs, and no one cares about the Jazz or Grizzlies making it
@@lilbigstewie: Well if it is rigged to get GSW into a playoff run.....they failed - BIGLY!
@@gf4670Gambling has always existed and we haven't ever seen that. The penalties are clearly stiffer then ever. Really, did Tim Donaghy blow the whole thing up? He got banned and went to prison.
“How can he so stupid…….and now a message from BetMGM”
if your in the nba you can’t gamble
Lol
The people using bet gm aren't barred from betting per their million dollar contracts. I'm not sure why you can't make that connection. Total Jontay Porter IQ.
The NBA covers its own ass again after they let in the gamblers. Porter just became the new pete rose.
@@John-PaulHunt-wy7lf Pete Rose didn't even bet as a player and he never influenced the outcomes of games
Porter is going to need an interpreter in China. You can bet on that. Life's a gamble.
He will be sleeping in 6-foot bed in China, with a bad pillow.
Swing and a miss
Shohei Ohtani has an Extra Interpreter!!
“Michael, were you aware that your brother was gambling?”
“We’re getting ready for Cincinnati”
Oscar Robertson was a great player. I have no time for the historically brain challenged.
"But Cincinnati doesn't have an--"
"We're. Getting. Ready. For. Cincinnati. End of discussion."
It's like betting at a Casino... you're always being watched...
Nothing better than watching everyone at table winning, watching pit master's concerned face, and having 5 dealer changes in 2 hours. Priceless.
@@kdevinturner8778they’re never worried. Jokes on you.
This could destroy sports leagues. The crowds have really never come back in Italy after scandals (in soccer)
I don’t think gambling and drugs are the same threats to a league. If I ran the league I’d let guys come back if they get clean and sober…. What porter did is malicious
Hope this doesn’t affect his brother mentally in the playoffs.
Hmmm.. Banned for two years, but then reinstated? Sounds "Like Mike?" 😅
I don't think Jontay knows baseball or how to gamble at golf. It appears he just dumb.
This is more clever than people are appreciating right now.
He’s not stupid, he’s sick!
Or both.
No, he's definitely stupid.
Jamie Foxx and Kevin Hart commercial up next
This is the most coverage Porter has ever had. The guy has a three point CAREER average.
Better than Stephen A's supposed college average. Jontay is headed for stardom if he can win the Tailgate Party Cornhole championship between the two.
I am even more pissed because he didn’t tell me so I could bet the under
They wouldn’t have paid out the winnings anyways. You’re good 😂
Do you believe he's the only one ? All the pro sports leagues are swimming in the gambling pool , then act shocked when someone gets caught. No one should bet on sports,the house wins 84% of the time, keep your money in your pocket.
Lions cowboys playoff game in Dallas as I watched it was clear & present that the officials refs responsible for the safety & integrity of the game were not going to allow Detroit Lions to win in Dallas against cowboys
Cry me a river. Thomas Hearns from Detroit lost to Marvin Hagler. Must have been a fix too.
Did not the "Bad Boys" under Isiah Thomas win the NBA championship? Fixed too. Tough.
Pro athletes don’t make money based on their intelligence. Probably way more going on beneath the surface
What about the scandals in the early 60s? Many players got banned from the NBA including the great Connie Hawkins. And they did not get into the NBA until they went to court.
Never happened to Oscar Robertson playing for Cincinnati.
How hypocritical to be sponsored by betting sites yet suspended anyone who uses said gambling sites. Pete Rose now deserves an apology
Pete Rose bet on his own team while he was managing it. Apples and oranges.
The two have nothing to do with each other at all.
@@kdevinturner8778 Thats fair. I just find it moronic that the leagues themselves condemn gambling for their athletes yet every single sports league damn near is sponsored by Draft Kings or some other betting site.
@@davidwelker9195 You find it moronic that athletes, who can affect the outcome of games, can not bet on games? I find that thinking moronic.
I don’t believe it’s hypocritical at all. Many NASCAR drivers are sponsored by beer and liquor companies, that doesn’t mean it is hypocritical that they didn’t want their drivers to drink behind the wheel
Arrogance & entitlement. People these days think rules & laws don’t apply to them because of how they feel about them.
Everybody's trying to one up Ja on being dumb.
He’s an NBA player… why would you think he’s smart?
Gambling & Pro Sports does NOT mix!
at 5:39 Michael Porter Jr. the III ? is that his real name?
some people are simply stupid, we can assume athletics ability = smarts
What?
@@VRKyurem I think Jack left off the 't of "can't".
What does Patrick think "banned" means?
With all the betting on sport why is baseball not demanding the umpires do a better job (Angel - for instance).
Because the high leverage owners know what Angel will do before he does it. He told them.
I just checked in and Dan goes in on the Lions/Michigan. Did anyone bring up the Lions and gambling? Yes, my dad watches this show just like all old people
Fans who are mad about the ban don't understand the implications this. If NBA don't do anything about this it can be detrimental to the game as a whole. This thing is also illegal in football.
A fools game, a stupid and lack of forethought money laundering game.
thats a great point by Dan that they didn't say banned for life
He should’ve said it was his translator…
Shohei clear. Over a thousand interviews during federal investigation. Please tell me what you know the feds don't know. Stupid comment.
Giving somebody a lifetime ban and then leaving the door open for a reinstatement is one thing if the reason is drug or alcohol related, but when the reason for a “lifetime” ban is literally a direct action against the integrity of the game, then that’s something totally different. I can understand if the NBA gave Porter the shoeless Joe Jackson, Pete Rose treatment.
Where’s the Ohtani updates?? Oh that’s right….
Updates for what?
He is completely innocent.
Most coverage the Raptors got all season.
Trudeau, the cowardly dumb purple dino not called Barney, gets lots of coverage.
What'd be interesting to see is if someone gets caught backing themselves a la Calvin Ridley. I imagine the punishment would still be substantive, but how much less than Porter would be interesting to see.
Money makes you nuts
I love uncle Dave 😁
In the realm of NBA salaries this guy made peanuts.
Lack of $$$ made him nuts.
Not having money is worse.
@@openmike4559 watch survivors with Robin Williams rip ❤️
Want to hear a good one? A congressman gives a government contract deal to his buddy. Then he buys stock in that company. Then the news announcement is made, and he makes a boatload of money. However people who hedged (bet against) the stock lose money. How is that different than an NBA player giving confidential information to a bettor, and manipulating the results for his own benefit? Answer: the first one is legal. Unfortunately we care more about our sports teams than we do about those who make the laws and govern us.
As a bonus, the congressman gets kicked back money in the form of campaign donations, and he uses it against his opponent by smearing him with negative advertisements. And we stay distracted…
They should investigate James harden game 6 for the spurs. Rewatch that and tell me something wasn't amiss.
There is a difference between being banned for gambling and being banned for violating the drug policy. Whether or not he is officially banned for life, he is effectively banned for life because no team will want anything to do with him.
sad thing is this most he will ever be talked about his entire life
Know their keeping an eye on his brother!🤔
When people hand everything to you including money and fame while you are immature foolish things can happen.
Maybe Sports Gambling might stop the NBA Rigging for the Lakers
What if it had been queen james that was caught gambling in the same manner as Porter?
Not the same. The first guy has tunnels under his plantation.
Odds on Ja Morant betting NBA games?
These gambling platforms might have moree integrity than the leagues do, as soon as that changes, which it will, it will hollow out professional sports, maybe almost kill it
Advertising is addicting 😂
Fred Flintstone with the paperboy??? Bet bet bet 😅
Playing marbles 🎉
"Integrity" and "NBA" are oxymorons
Maybe ask the real question, why Draftking is allowed to be partner of any sports league?
Not a good week for the porter family. One gets kicked out of the NBA losing millions and another one goes to prison for 6 years for killing a lady.
They need to check rui hachimaura and austin reeves. Those f'ers looked like they were on the take last night.
One bet for sure….he’s not the only one.
How could you tell a grown man he can’t legally gamble
🤦
Big name players not gambling 💀
Sports Gambling. What could go wrong? Gambling has NO PLACE IN SPORTS. The Gambler is the Enemy of all Sports Fans.
Dude was definitely a gambling addict
NHL playoffs in full swing. And ol Dem dan is beating the tired nba drum. You know, I love Bruce Lee and Chuck Norris. Alot of people do. Maybe Dem dan could shake things up.
Why would he be let back in the league? He will just do it again
Did he not learn from Joe Jackson or Pete Rose?
Imagine how many people are cheating and not getting caught. It’s ridiculous.
Porter will write a book and make millions
Millions of pieces of cat litter? You might be correct.
Doesn’t even have the balls to bet on his over
Pete Rose HOF.
NOT IN HIS LIFETIME !!!
Really really stupid for Jontay to do that. I understand that he doesn't make as much money as an NBA player that's not in the G-league but risking and losing your 400k salary for bets in the 10ks (I think he only won 20k in total after making all those bets, lost a lot) is beyond stupid. He's gonna have to continue his playing career overseas. BTW, I wish the NBA would crack down this hard and fast on players involved in domestic violence & illicit relationships with minors (*cough* Giddey) like they just did with Jontay on illegal gambling
. . . What brother?
Jordan got 1 and a 1/2 year suspension.
Dude made it way too obvious by leaving the game in the first 5 minutes.
Does anybody else think it’s fishy that the investigation mentioned a game he sat out as evidence the man avg. less than 5 pts. a game!
What set off the investigation was a $80,000 dollar bet placed on Jontay that had a payout of $1.2 million. The person placing the bet was someone Jontay knew. If they had kept the bets small and not gone for a homerun the books wouldn't have been investigated. I'm sure anytime a book has to payout $1.2 million their fraud department starts to look. The money was obviously never paid out.
Bro shoulda taken advantage of his opportunity and earned a 20 mill a year contract … his team was tanking and giving young guys a shot instead he took advantage for a quick buck… not to mention how stupid do you have to be to place a 80K parlay to win a mill involving the under on all your stats the same night you just so happen to sit out cuz of a random llness you don’t think they gonna flag that. 😂
A knowledge of basic mathematics and common sense has potential to go a long way. Jontay gone.
This is just the tip of the iceberg. One and done Is important. These guys and wiggle room is horse hockey.
They need to sell the Raptors. That org is a dumpster fire. First they're stealing plays from playoff teams still ending in the lottery and now they hire bums to ruin the integrity of the league. Close it up for good.
Now lets shed light on the refs that are still in the nba who where involved with Tim Donahee scadel
What is the bigger crime what Porter did or what the NBA does every night with crooked officiating. A lottery draft order determined in secret. Trades made to benefit big name franchises. Corrupt from the top to the bottom. All major sports networks are in business with the NBA.
I mean his brother got the huge bag and idk why this dude would do this like cmon. I mean sure his bro money ain’t his but I’m sure if he wanted some nicer stuff here or there, his brother woulda got him but wtf does this dude need
Good thing Jordan retired long ago.
betting on the team losing is almost assured considering Raptors is SHIT right now LMAO
And even then he was 0/3 when betting on them to lose 😂
Here's a theory: they bring this out right before Nuggets- Lakers to disrupt his brother in a playoff series where they're trying to make Lebron James better than Jordan.
Adam Silver said," “There is nothing more important than protecting the integrity of NBA competition..." yet the NBA continually encourages betting on specific players and games. In a desperate move for more revenue the league also set up a trash tournament allowing teams as bad as 30 games below .500 a second chance to get into the playoffs.
SMFH. Less posting more thinking.
@@toddtaylor6506 take your own advice
All the gambling companies and mobsters getting into bed with Professional Sports, and people are surprised this is happening???
It's only going to get worse.
Angel Hernandez (questionable calls) and banging drums in MLB. The NBA which always seems to have gambling issues -- refs AND players. And the NFL which is full of bad beats, script rumors and plenty of incentive and pay disparity between participants. Might as well gamble on WWE... At least they admit to being "Sports Entertainment."
Wow he bet on himself lossing how they find this out ?
Porter is repleacable. The Commisoner made an example out of him. If he would have been a SUPERSTAR of the league like Michael Jordan, LeBron James or Shohei Otani, he would have been protected and given a pass. There are privileges that some people get that others don't. The man who makes the most money makes the rules.....It's the American way.
No Patrick, not true about integrity! We know there’s referees and judges in various sports that’s been involved in cheat scandals but they hide it! So stop with the pontificating view!
Did the refs get a life ban when they did the same
Yes
@dantrav1927 Foster may not have bet but he's clearly influencing games more than any ref should
He needs to be banned for life.
Lifetime ban, he’s done, good riddance.
I still don't think online gambling should be legal nation wide. Let people go to Vegas, Atlantic City, and local casinos.
Why you had a a great job put a ball in a basket and make 2 million a year you just throw it a way for gambling millions of people wish that they had his gift to put a ball in a basket and make a lot of money
Blind arrogance
These leagues are so damn hypocritical, I like how Dan points it out.
Not really, Casinos, Racetracks, Bingo Halls all have restrictions on their employees gambling all of which do nothing but promote gambling. Hell, a store owner cannot cash a lottery ticket. The leagues allow players to gamble on anything except their own sport for integrity reasons like this dumbass has created, if the players are that dumb that they are willing to bet on their sport and lose their career that is on them not the league.
That being said I don't think the leagues should have ANY involvement with the gambling sites it looks bad and creates controversy.
we all know nba and nfl the games are scripted , so the most popular teams wins ,
A culture promoting gambling non-stop punishes people who gamble. It's so fucking stupid it's funny.
100%! The ones bringing in all the money can’t indulge? Like a rich slave… it’s actually crazy when you stop and think about it…
That's just fucking stupid - rich slave - great word usage.@@Hoodlum728
Yes, punishes employees who can directly change the outcome of the game. Same for companies like the one I work for, if I buy/sell stock based on insider knowledge I will be fired and possibly jailed.
You’re dumb. It’s the fact he bet AGAINST his team and then purposely did things to hurt his team from winning the game.
@@Chalk89 yes but you can still buy/sell stock freely… he couldn’t bet on a game he’s not playing in…
As trash as he was he would’ve be made more just playing in the league 😂
Jontay Porter should be banned for life just like Pete Rose.
Why don’t you know more about what you’re trying to talk about. Banned means banned. Duh!!! Perhaps with a chance for reinstatement after 2 years if the person gets professional therapy. You don’t know that? Banned means banned, period. Duh!!!
should have blamed a childhood friend like ohtani did.
Just do a teeny-weeny bit of research. Could help you.