Loved this video! Your breakdowns are the absolute best!! Three additional points in my opinion: scent, price, and availability. Everyone knows the Powerbait scent flat out works. Gulp, max scent, and powerbait are fish catching machines for fresh and saltwater. Other companies that use licorice and coffee.. while they smell good to us, they don’t catch any more or less fish compared to an unscented lure. And the mega bass has no scent. Price.. the Berkley Agent E comes in a TWO pack, that costs less than a single mega bass dark sleeper. Last.. is availability. It’s berkley, so before you know it, it’s gonna be available at your local Walmart, if it’s not already. Not all tackle shops carry megabass, so depending on where you live, you may have to order them online. Then you have the extra waiting time, AND shipping fees. So if these lures are pretty close in design, how they skip, how they fish… then the three points I just added made this no contest at all. Berkley for the WIN. Lol.
This is absolutely a "Gobi" representation. Either of them would work great here on Lake St. Clair and the other great lakes. Will have to give each a chance to see how it works out. Thanks for the comparison video. Appreciate it... as always.
I lived in the US for quite a few years but I’m lost in the translation of “give them the bananas”. I think I got the sense anyway, but I never heard that before. I love it 🤣
I never tried the dark sleeper because I didn’t understand how to fish these style of baits… i watched Edwin Evers video on the Agent E and i gave them a try and boy im glad i did! 3rd cast and then again 4-5 cast later. Im sold
I find the dark sleeper to be a proven bass catcher. I lost a couple big largemouth on it initially and found I really had to keep them buttoned up and get the fish to the boat quickly. I haven’t thrown the E yet but if it’s half the fish catcher the sleeper is, it worth the purchase.
Was out on a lake last week, and fishing all day off cranks weightless senkos jerk baits and drop shot, bunch of stuff and nothing was just biting for some reason. I mean i caught 3-4 before but in a long time period. Pulled out the megabass dark sleeper and caught 3 back to back in less than 10 mins.
The Agent E looks like a swimbait but is supposed to be fished like a jig. I recently started using them on a lake where the fish don't like jigs. Fished it just like a jig and it worked like a charm - started catching fish right away. Didn't snag much while fishing on big jagged rocks. Great bait.
Great video as always. I agree completely regarding the hook set with the Agent E-“give them the bananas!” I do find the dark sleeper has better hook ups, but they’re both cool baits.
Thank you for the review! I have both lures and never used yet. At targeting hybrid striped bass in a paddle only lake in Ohio, I'll going to try the Berkley due to depth. Last hybrid snapped off near my kayak seat, forgot the net, used light set up with a Berkley 3" pogy swimbait natural shad.
I am glad that you looked at both baits side by side I have been fishing the dark sleep for a long time and one thing that I have learned is that the bigger line that you fish it with but I fish mine on lighter line and it has a lot of head wobble you have to play with your line size
Enjoy your comparison videos. I would love to see a comparison video on scents for those of us that use them. Been going through a variety of scents recently ( Bang, Bait Fuel, Smelly Jelly, and Mega Strike), and see if your results match my experience.
Great breakdown. I’ve been fishing the dark sleeper now for two years and have caught dozens of bass on them. One of the best decisions I’ve ever made was buying some to catch smallmouth in Canada. I had smallies crushing these in no time. I’ve considered Edwin’s version of this lure but haven’t bought any to try yet. Maybe later, but for now the dark sleeper is my choice.
8:35 or so, weird splash in the background. LOL. Should also check out the new Savage Gear Structure Gill. I haven't fished it enough yet to say anything about it, but has a good profile.
Tyler ,,, I am curious to see how the durability compares because from my experience Berkeley products seem to be softer and not as durable also I have had tons of dark sleepers as they have good durability, also when it comes to the dark sleeper weights they have a sink/fall that is one size lighter then a standard jig , so for example a 3/4oz dark sleeper will have the same fall/sink rate as a 1/2oz jig and a 1/2oz dark sleeper has the same fall/sink rate of a standard 3/8oz jig etc…..
Actually Tyler,I very much appreciate the fact that Berkeley decided to copy the dark sleeper and give me 2 of them for cheaper than the sleeper...it's a free and open market out there
Here was my take on the two there both great. However the dark sleeper wins only because it comes in 1/4 oz. The 1/4 just killed it for me for crappie/ white bass/ and large mouth this year.
I think there is a case for both of them. The agent E has a rattle and can handle wood a little better while the dark sleeper has a better weedguard for grass and the tail can move better at slower speeds. Otherwise it’s pretty much just pick your poison.
Never tried the Agent E, I know the dark sleeper is probably the biggest sleeper bait on the market. It's a sneaky good saugeye bait and killer smallmouth bait too. Super versatile..
Tyler off topic but can you make a video actually showing all types of lake vegetation. On your other channel you rattled off a few types of grass and vegetation but I would love to know to correctly identify each type and what way to fish that certain type of vegetation. Love the new channel btw
I've tried a few dark sleepers and haven't caught anything with them. any suggestions for a retrieve? I've tried swimming it and jigging it with no luck.
I pretty much only use the 2.4" version in the 1/4oz size. I only use the Donko color and it has caught me so many fish, I've lost count. I also have the 3/8oz in the 3.4" size and I've got maybe 10 fish on it
Though I have caught bass on a straight retrieve I find you get more bites if you hop it off the bottom moving it a foot or two then letting it sit on the bottom. Most times they will hit it on the fall.
Great review. One of the best. Sad that copies happen, but if a copy is better and satisfies patent laws, then so be it. A "name" or copyright is beneficial imho because a copycat cannot have the same reputation that a household name has built.
I believe both of these baits were designed to be fished on the bottom, hopping them like jigs instead of swimming them. In that case the megabass’s tail should have more action since it takes less to start up.
Im definitely going to have to go with the dark sleeper i have way to much moss in my ponds to not take advantage of that weedless hook. Ill just sacrifice head shakes for less snags
The dark sleeper is original & I do think Berkeley copied the dark sleeper. But all lure companies do it. Thier about making mew baits & making $ Seeing the swimming next to each other the Berkeley has secondary action of head wiggle like a magdraft or other good swimbaits. That secondary action is huge plus if your fishing though water column. If you're just crawling on bottom obviously won't matter. Both seem like great baits, I've had dark sleepers for few yrs now. I'll have try the Berkeley ones. Are you from Ohio? What area? I'm from Cincinnati Ohio. I just moved to southern SC end of last summer. Bass fishing down here is on another level!
How can i be more efficient at finding submerged brush piles and rocks without a fish finder cause right now i am using jigs and Carolina rigs sometimes deeper crank baits to find them but it takes a very long time to mark out this by dragging
Unless there is some new technology I don’t know exists … I’m pretty sure the only way to find submerged brush piles… is either by finding them on accident (dragging).. or with sonar. And there really is no reason not to use sonar. You can buy them for as cheap as $100, and all you need is the most basic 2D sonar. Watch a few TH-cam videos on how. Even if you don’t have a boat… they have sonar “bobbers”, that you can attach to a rod and reel combo, cast from the bank, and see exactly what’s going on underneath the surface.
Great comparison video but ill say the dark sleeper in my opinion has a horrible hook and snags a lot around wood. My home lake here in fl is lake Rousseau and its a mini rodman in terms of wood. Stumps everywhere. The sleeper hung up a ton in my experience. Ive also lost a few fish on the hook itself bending out quite easily.
Sup Tyler. Great video as always. Couldn't pick 2 better baits to compare. Like the results! I have a package of Powerbait pre-rigged swimbaits. They are white I believe shad? I don't have them in my waters, think they will still work? Ty tc
I like your videos very informative but I was wondering you talk about Japanese lures but they are hard to get I was wondering if you knew of a website that might make it easier to buy them. If not it’s ok I live. Thanks
I'd watched a guy carve a bait out of cottonwood bark at the side of a river. He put hooks on it annnnnd, caught fish. He also caught fish with a stick and a hook on the stick, caught fish, with a stick... ... .
This morning, between 11-12 o’clock, with the wind blowing whitecaps on Lake Champlain, I caught 7 smallmouth bass from a floating boat ramp dock. They were all keeper size, 2 of them were 19.5 inches and 3.5 pounds. All caught using the Dark Sleeper. No boats on the lake today!
I feel like if you weren’t the first company to produce a bait or lure, it’s going to be very hard to come up with something that doesn’t take pages out of someone else’s playbook. The Agent E has characteristics of both the dark sleeper and the BPS mean eye swimmer. Now savage gear has come out with the structure gill which is almost identical to the dark sleeper as well. I prefer the structure gill over the Agent E.
This was the best lure comparison video I have seen. We need more of these man! Great job. I can't wait to see some more comparisons like this.
Loved this video! Your breakdowns are the absolute best!!
Three additional points in my opinion: scent, price, and availability. Everyone knows the Powerbait scent flat out works. Gulp, max scent, and powerbait are fish catching machines for fresh and saltwater. Other companies that use licorice and coffee.. while they smell good to us, they don’t catch any more or less fish compared to an unscented lure. And the mega bass has no scent. Price.. the Berkley Agent E comes in a TWO pack, that costs less than a single mega bass dark sleeper. Last.. is availability. It’s berkley, so before you know it, it’s gonna be available at your local Walmart, if it’s not already. Not all tackle shops carry megabass, so depending on where you live, you may have to order them online. Then you have the extra waiting time, AND shipping fees. So if these lures are pretty close in design, how they skip, how they fish… then the three points I just added made this no contest at all. Berkley for the WIN. Lol.
One factor is ,we KNOW the dark sleeper works,we'll see about Agent E..they should be good
I will make sure to give the fish all of the bananas next time
You both Tyler if I didn't make any mistake 😉😉 love you guys videos
A banana shaped lure! Dustin C. said you could probably catch a bass on a baby shoe. Why not a banana?
I came to make this exact comment! Bahahahahaha this phrase is going into my lexicon
Tyler don’t hate. “Give’‘em the Bananas!” Is an outstanding saying!
Please keep pumping out the videos! I messed my shoulder up yesterday and TH-cam fishing is all I got for a while.
This is absolutely a "Gobi" representation. Either of them would work great here on Lake St. Clair and the other great lakes. Will have to give each a chance to see how it works out. Thanks for the comparison video. Appreciate it... as always.
Indeed does work great on lake st Clair.
Fished the Dark Secret here in Kingston on Lake Ontario and hammered the Smallies.
I lived in the US for quite a few years but I’m lost in the translation of “give them the bananas”. I think I got the sense anyway, but I never heard that before. I love it 🤣
I never tried the dark sleeper because I didn’t understand how to fish these style of baits… i watched Edwin Evers video on the Agent E and i gave them a try and boy im glad i did! 3rd cast and then again 4-5 cast later. Im sold
I find the dark sleeper to be a proven bass catcher. I lost a couple big largemouth on it initially and found I really had to keep them buttoned up and get the fish to the boat quickly. I haven’t thrown the E yet but if it’s half the fish catcher the sleeper is, it worth the purchase.
Was out on a lake last week, and fishing all day off cranks weightless senkos jerk baits and drop shot, bunch of stuff and nothing was just biting for some reason. I mean i caught 3-4 before but in a long time period. Pulled out the megabass dark sleeper and caught 3 back to back in less than 10 mins.
The Agent E looks like a swimbait but is supposed to be fished like a jig. I recently started using them on a lake where the fish don't like jigs. Fished it just like a jig and it worked like a charm - started catching fish right away. Didn't snag much while fishing on big jagged rocks. Great bait.
As Tyler stated, set the hook hard on the Agent E. Had the biggest fish of the day come up and throw the bait after a strong hookset.
Great video as always. I agree completely regarding the hook set with the Agent E-“give them the bananas!” I do find the dark sleeper has better hook ups, but they’re both cool baits.
I found the dark sleeper is not as weedless.
Thank you for the review! I have both lures and never used yet. At targeting hybrid striped bass in a paddle only lake in Ohio, I'll going to try the Berkley due to depth. Last hybrid snapped off near my kayak seat, forgot the net, used light set up with a Berkley 3" pogy swimbait natural shad.
I am glad that you looked at both baits side by side I have been fishing the dark sleep for a long time and one thing that I have learned is that the bigger line that you fish it with but I fish mine on lighter line and it has a lot of head wobble you have to play with your line size
Enjoy your comparison videos. I would love to see a comparison video on scents for those of us that use them. Been going through a variety of scents recently ( Bang, Bait Fuel, Smelly Jelly, and Mega Strike), and see if your results match my experience.
8:37 if your fishing where bass are really aggressive.
Behind him a fish jumps
Great video! One of my faves! Yes to more lure comparisons! Oh and your knot vids are faves also !
8:45 bass blew up right as you were talking about aggressive bass lol
I absolutely love all this info… I’m teaching my wife, so it gives me great ideas for her!! Great work, thanks bud!
Not me, my wife are already out fishes me , we have 2 different fishing styles.
Another great video!! You should look at the 10,000 Fish Head Hunter as well. The Agent E is a bait that you should fish like a jig per Edwin Evers.
The Darksleeper is actually a Gobi which just kind of shuffle along the bottom of that helps with a clue on how to fish it.
I’ve always had great luck with the megabass in little Ohio ponds. I’ve been wanting to try the agent-e to see if I notice a big difference
Awesome video I love the way you compared the two Baits
Great breakdown. I’ve been fishing the dark sleeper now for two years and have caught dozens of bass on them. One of the best decisions I’ve ever made was buying some to catch smallmouth in Canada. I had smallies crushing these in no time. I’ve considered Edwin’s version of this lure but haven’t bought any to try yet. Maybe later, but for now the dark sleeper is my choice.
I haven't caught fish on either yet, but if you're fishing weeds the agent E is better and cheaper.
8:35 or so, weird splash in the background. LOL. Should also check out the new Savage Gear Structure Gill. I haven't fished it enough yet to say anything about it, but has a good profile.
Tyler ,,, I am curious to see how the durability compares because from my experience Berkeley products seem to be softer and not as durable also I have had tons of dark sleepers as they have good durability, also when it comes to the dark sleeper weights they have a sink/fall that is one size lighter then a standard jig , so for example a 3/4oz dark sleeper will have the same fall/sink rate as a 1/2oz jig and a 1/2oz dark sleeper has the same fall/sink rate of a standard 3/8oz jig etc…..
Actually Tyler,I very much appreciate the fact that Berkeley decided to copy the dark sleeper and give me 2 of them for cheaper than the sleeper...it's a free and open market out there
Here was my take on the two there both great. However the dark sleeper wins only because it comes in 1/4 oz. The 1/4 just killed it for me for crappie/ white bass/ and large mouth this year.
Great footage Tyler!
"Give 'em the bananas" lolol
I think there is a case for both of them. The agent E has a rattle and can handle wood a little better while the dark sleeper has a better weedguard for grass and the tail can move better at slower speeds. Otherwise it’s pretty much just pick your poison.
Never tried the Agent E, I know the dark sleeper is probably the biggest sleeper bait on the market. It's a sneaky good saugeye bait and killer smallmouth bait too. Super versatile..
Tyler off topic but can you make a video actually showing all types of lake vegetation. On your other channel you rattled off a few types of grass and vegetation but I would love to know to correctly identify each type and what way to fish that certain type of vegetation. Love the new channel btw
Give em the bananas 😂. That is the best quote ever!
I've tried a few dark sleepers and haven't caught anything with them. any suggestions for a retrieve? I've tried swimming it and jigging it with no luck.
I pretty much only use the 2.4" version in the 1/4oz size. I only use the Donko color and it has caught me so many fish, I've lost count. I also have the 3/8oz in the 3.4" size and I've got maybe 10 fish on it
Though I have caught bass on a straight retrieve I find you get more bites if you hop it off the bottom moving it a foot or two then letting it sit on the bottom. Most times they will hit it on the fall.
How big is your is boat ? Also do you have a normal two car garage? Just trying to see how big of a boat I can fit in my garage.
nice comparison T. thanks
Great gopro underwater demo
Great review. One of the best. Sad that copies happen, but if a copy is better and satisfies patent laws, then so be it. A "name" or copyright is beneficial imho because a copycat cannot have the same reputation that a household name has built.
I am interested in the app. How would you rate it against similar apps.
I believe both of these baits were designed to be fished on the bottom, hopping them like jigs instead of swimming them. In that case the megabass’s tail should have more action since it takes less to start up.
Im definitely going to have to go with the dark sleeper i have way to much moss in my ponds to not take advantage of that weedless hook. Ill just sacrifice head shakes for less snags
The dark sleeper is original & I do think Berkeley copied the dark sleeper. But all lure companies do it. Thier about making mew baits & making $ Seeing the swimming next to each other the Berkeley has secondary action of head wiggle like a magdraft or other good swimbaits. That secondary action is huge plus if your fishing though water column. If you're just crawling on bottom obviously won't matter. Both seem like great baits, I've had dark sleepers for few yrs now. I'll have try the Berkeley ones. Are you from Ohio? What area? I'm from Cincinnati Ohio. I just moved to southern SC end of last summer. Bass fishing down here is on another level!
nice compare , Tyler. Really enjoy the breakdown!
The eyes on the dark sleepers pop out awful easy. But they still get bit.
How do they compare in terms of durability and cost?
Are the heads tungsten or lead
Went bed fishing with the dark sleeper in a pond and didn’t get much action. Any tips cause it’s def a lure I wanna get into
I like the comparison videos. Lot of good information
Never fished either bait but the agent e looked better to me. Thanks for vid.
How can i be more efficient at finding submerged brush piles and rocks without a fish finder cause right now i am using jigs and Carolina rigs sometimes deeper crank baits to find them but it takes a very long time to mark out this by dragging
Unless there is some new technology I don’t know exists … I’m pretty sure the only way to find submerged brush piles… is either by finding them on accident (dragging).. or with sonar. And there really is no reason not to use sonar. You can buy them for as cheap as $100, and all you need is the most basic 2D sonar. Watch a few TH-cam videos on how. Even if you don’t have a boat… they have sonar “bobbers”, that you can attach to a rod and reel combo, cast from the bank, and see exactly what’s going on underneath the surface.
is like you know lol i just got my dark sleeper in today .. keep up the good work and videos.
Great comparison video but ill say the dark sleeper in my opinion has a horrible hook and snags a lot around wood. My home lake here in fl is lake Rousseau and its a mini rodman in terms of wood. Stumps everywhere. The sleeper hung up a ton in my experience. Ive also lost a few fish on the hook itself bending out quite easily.
Sup Tyler. Great video as always. Couldn't pick 2 better baits to compare. Like the results! I have a package of Powerbait pre-rigged swimbaits. They are white I believe shad? I don't have them in my waters, think they will still work? Ty tc
U need to check out the savage Gear structure Gill. Great video man keep up the good work
Great test enjoyed this video thanks for sharing 🎣 👍
Very hopeful since I just bought all the dark sleepers they have at academy lol still haven’t fished it though can’t wait.
If you crease the mono at the back of the agent e the hookup is 💯 better and still weedless
I personally use and like the dark sleeper. Never seen the agent e
Dark sleeper has never fail me. When the fish don’t bite I always throw a dark sleeper or vision 110 and they always produce.
I like my dark sleeper. It doesn’t get caught or snagged a lot. The one eye did fall off though. But hey nothing a sharpie can’t fix lol
That's megabass for ya lol, they need to add more adhesive to the eyes on their baits. Every magdraft I've bought one or both eyes fall of
The ole wiggle test
I haven't used it but I'm on the Agent E!
I like the weed guard and the colors look more realistic
I have used, agent e is the best😊
I'm definitely a big fan of Berkley baits by far my favorite but where I fish the dark sleeper would most likely do better then Berkley
Thanks!
I like your videos very informative but I was wondering you talk about Japanese lures but they are hard to get I was wondering if you knew of a website that might make it easier to buy them. If not it’s ok I live. Thanks
Give them the bananas!!!
You really gotta give em the bananas! Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
I'm told by a local Berkley pro that the Berkley is much more durable and has a better hook ratio.
Berkley, the king of knock offs. 😄
It does look good though
Berkley is gonna Berkley At least they are consistent.
Durability on the Agent? I love the Sleeper but it's so fragile.
The 10,000 catch head hunter is no slouch. It is a good made bait. I know not your company and all but it’s legit.
Give ‘‘em the bananas! 😂
I like that agent
Great video.
LMFAO!! give ‘em the bananas 🍌 that’s hilarious. Great comparison video
The Dark Sleeper is an absolute hammer in the and around grass. Can’t wait to throw the 1oz on the ledges here shortly
Agent e is way better
I'd watched a guy carve a bait out of cottonwood bark at the side of a river. He put hooks on it annnnnd, caught fish. He also caught fish with a stick and a hook on the stick, caught fish, with a stick... ... .
I caught my biggest small mouth bass at 5.86lb with the dark sleeper
Berkeley baits are always tougher plastics. Harder for their actions to get going
Hey Tyler neither there both good
What I'm hearing is....buy them both if you can.
Be sure and give em them bananas. :-)
The dark sleeper is good
Thank you Tyler, 😂🍌🤣🍌😂🍌, great under water footage. I fish the Agent-E and that was some helpful information! 👍🏻🇺🇸🎣
Big fan of the dark sleeper. Awesome for small mouths
Thank God I'm not fishing in Ohio. Northern Minnesota/Wisconsin is an awesome place for Bass Fishing.
Yeah, I'm in central Minnesota and we have killer smallmouth fishing in the rivers around here
Have you tried skipping these baits? If so, how well do they skip?
Talked about this in the video. They skip like a rock
@@BassFishingHQ a flat rock or a round rock? But I’m not sure with you if there’s much of a difference. I think you could skip a railroad spike.
Good one , loved it
subscribed ! Thanks for the comparison - I have both products. :) This will be very useful, cheers !
clothes hanger very smart
I love the dark sleeper in ponds it's a killer
Agent e hooks bend
8:34 blow up
Looked like your Dark Sleeper was consistently rolled to the right +20 degrees regardless of speed. For me that would be a big discriminator.
This morning, between 11-12 o’clock, with the wind blowing whitecaps on Lake Champlain, I caught 7 smallmouth bass from a floating boat ramp dock. They were all keeper size, 2 of them were 19.5 inches and 3.5 pounds. All caught using the Dark Sleeper. No boats on the lake today!
If you wanna fish a dark sleeper like a jig you had better have deep pockets 🤣🤣🤣
They are the same. I don’t care what Edwin says
I feel like if you weren’t the first company to produce a bait or lure, it’s going to be very hard to come up with something that doesn’t take pages out of someone else’s playbook. The Agent E has characteristics of both the dark sleeper and the BPS mean eye swimmer. Now savage gear has come out with the structure gill which is almost identical to the dark sleeper as well. I prefer the structure gill over the Agent E.
Agent e is better