Fujifilm High Dynamic Range (HDR)
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- Fujifilm High Dynamic Range (HDR) setting and how it affects JPEG and RAW photos. Tips for improving image quality using the clarity and sharpness sliders together with HDR 800%.
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0:00 Intro
0:56 How it Works
3:38 What is 800%?
4:20 Sample Images
6:18 How RAW files are affected by HDR
7:25 Understanding Fujifilm HDR RAW
9:58 Tips for Shooting in HDR
11:34 Conclusion
12:07 Outro
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Honestly this is one of if not the most informative channels on the Fuji-X system.
Awww, thank you so much!! So kind of you to say!! 🙏 🙏
I truly agree 👍
yes! I've found your channel so helpful and your enthusiasm brightens my day 😁
Would you please do a tutorial on the XT30 ? Similar, but different, to its big brothers and sooo confusing for a newbie like me
I truly agree
Honestly, you are right.
The amount of technical information that you know about this camera is crazy, and you sharing this for free and the time spent making these videos is greatly appreciated. 👍👍👍👍
I dont understand why he has only 61k subscribers. He deserves 5-10x more subscribers!
@@deathism probably because Fuji users are less than Canon and Sony. If he were to make videos about those brands he definitely can. BUT he is a fuji fanboy like all of us here :D
This is my favorite fuji channel. I've learned how everything works almost exclusively from this channel. Thank you very much for your hard work.
coming from Canon to Fuji would be HORRIBLE without your channel ….. truly, thank you very much for the information you provide. You obviously put in the time to produce great videos and it shows.
You are the best and the most efficient youtuber for Fuji systems! THANK YOU SO MUCH!
This feature would be amazing if Fuji would store all 3 exposures as individual raw files, plus spit out a merged raw of the 3 exposures that you could then edit, both in camera or back on your photo editor of choice. It would save the step of merging in Lightroom and simplify the culling process, but you would still have the 3 original exposures to play with in Lightroom or Photoshop if something got whacky on the copy merged in-camera.
I could also see this HDR feature being useful for spitting out a JPEG to share immediately, but based on your testing it seems that we would have to expose for the shadows a bit, overexposing the highlights, and let the HDR function bring the highlights back down. If that works well, that'd be worth having as a feature on the drive dial.
I still had lots of fun watching this even though I have a relatively dated (X-H1) Fuji camera.
And with I wish my fellow Fuji shooters a very pleasant Friday.
That's awesome to hear Jake!!! Thanks man.. and the X-H1 is a great camera. I've heard nothing but great things about it.
It could be the best x series camera from fuji
@@okiforbreakfast the beauty of the x-system:
Depends on your needs and wants.
I picked up an X-T4 a few months ago and these videos have been so helpful. I do enjoy the Fast Friday videos, because sometimes I want to figure out a setting right before a shoot and they get right to the point!
Hi Chris, PLEASE, PLEASE do a comparison video on HDR vs. Exp Bracketing on XT4.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't HDR technically just a kind of automatic exposure bracketing?
@@martinbelusa1482 what i thought too... except one is auto, one is you got to do it yourself with a bunch of masking.
So luminosity masking is not the only option for processing HDR files you create yourself with exposure bracketing.
Lightroom and Photoshop both have built-in tools for doing this. There are also a number of third-party options.
Unless we figure out how to get at the embedded RAW files, exposure bracketing is still the better road if you want control.
Great series Chris... I learn a lot watching your vlogs... keep them coming...
What an awesome channel. Great detail and fantastic delivery. Thank you so much. Best wishes from Wales (UK)
I love your channel and constantly look for new information on the XT4 from you. I find you to be very informative, enthusiastic, and very entertaining. Thanks for making a complicated instruction manual much easier to understand.
As always an excellent useful and informative video, Chris.
I’d love to see longer and more in depth videos, as well as these shorter “just the basics/most important”. I would certainly support you in a way you can spend more time creating this content. Hope you can find a way that works for you.
Have a great weekend!
Andrew
What a rabbit hole that HDR feature can end up being. Thanks for putting the time into it and uploading another great video for us.
Thank you so much for the hard work you’ve put into all of these videos on the Fuji X system. It’s been so rewarding putting all your lessons to use. Cheers!
I've been wondering about the raw files for a while, so I really hope you can figure something out. These videos are so high quality and so informative. Thank you so much
I've had questions about the HDR and dynamic range functions on the camera for so long and I could never really find any helpful information anywhere, even custom user manuals. These videos have been extremely helpful and empowering as I try to think through which settings would be best for the various scenes I'm shooting, especially ones with lots of contrast. Thank you so much for taking the time to do these videos!
I just discover your channel couple of weeks ago. I'm watching all your videos about XT-4 camera, i'm learning a lot. Thank you very much. You are very clear in your explanations and also very funny. Thanks for giving us such a lot of precious information.
much appreciated, your videos have been helping me a ton learning to use the x100v and xt4
I love your videos, i just recently bought Xt4 and i love your tips, grettings from Colombia.
Thankyou for very clear advice on this topic. Out of all the Fuji channels i watch, yours is the greatest information sharing of them all. No rambling or ego trips, just clear knowledge transfer. Many Thanks!
Your channel really helped a lot! Thank you so much! Love it!
Very informative. Thanks pal2tech! 👍👍👍
You bet!
Fantastic channel Chris. Greetings from France
Chris you are my go to channel for FUJI X series info. Thank you and keep up the great work... please
I appreciate your efforts! Good work!
Thanks a lot! 👍
Great video! The lack of documentation from Fuji is often a little infuriating. Your efforts in figuring out how this stuff works is MUCH appreciated. 🤠
Great stuff as alwaysss
Need to say I’m an amateur learning so much from your videos you explain everything for a beginner to understand keep up the good work thanks.
I discovered your channel a few weeks ago and I just wanted to say that I love your personality and the way that you are teaching us things on fuji cameras. I'm 17 years old and I'm trying to learn photography and to get a fuji camera too, your videos have a proper identity that I personally love very much. I also saw your video about the fuji focus modes that you made in 2019 and the last part touched me real hard, that's what convinced me to write you a comment to express my feelings about your work. Can't wait to see you having your 100k subscribers and when I will have my camera I'm gonna celebrate it the same way as you did in this video ! (with some true Champagne this time 😉) Big love from France🇫🇷 We love your work!
Thank you so much Noam!!! That means a lot to me!! Le meilleur à vous et j'espère vous revoir bientôt ici!
Very informative! Thanks a lot for this really interesting video=)
Thanks again Chris! You help me to understand my Fuji XT4 step by step better! Thank you for your effort 😊
Happy to help!
Absolutely love your videos. It’s like a dad teaching what’s he’s passionate about. Just got an XT4 for my trip to Egypt
Excellent as always, mate.
Thank you! Cheers!
I did some extensive testing and the upshot is that the only difference between RAW files with and without HDR applied (I used the 800% + HDR like you did) was that the ones with HDR were actually darker (and of course slightly cropped) due to a lower ISO (1000 with HDR vs. 2000 without HDR in my samples and I used Auto ISO with identical shutter speed and aperture and converted with the latest version of Capture One 21). The highlight recovery had about the same limitations in both RAW files and was not nearly as good as the JPEGs with HDR, so it looks like HDR is definitely a JPEG only feature, but as such useful in some high contrast situations. The three images taken don't seem to be baked into the RAW file at all (not matter what size), so no joy there!:)
Greeting from Russia! Your channel is the best among all russian youtubers about x-t4!)) Your information is very usefull! And you are such an inspiring person! P.s. thanks for “Правда»)) Keep it up!
You are such a great guy, thanks for sharing
I selfishly want you to become a full-time you tuber! I am a total newbie, and your delivery and instruction is amazing. I’ve browsed other fujifilm instruction channels, and find I’m more engaged while watching YOUR videos. Thank you - I’m learning a ton!
Seems like combining exposure bracketing with continuous high shutter actuations, followed by hdr image processing in post, would be more practical.
Sir u r ultimate ....
Full informative channel of fujifilm camera
Thankx man...👍👍👍
Perfect brian yet again 👍📸👍
Thanks 👍
I hope Fuji will improve this in-body HDR in a future update of the firmware...
I was waiting to this, thank you Mr. Fuji!
Thanks Carlos! Cheers!
I loved it because it's fast friday but it's long video!!
@@CarlosLopezES 🤫🤐 shhh, don't say it's a long video, just let Chris keep coming with more videos 😁👍
Let's get Chris to 100K and a Fuji sponsorship. Thank you for making these videos Chris!!
If the HDR data is hidden in the file, it might be reflected in the curve. Even without that being obvious, adjusting the curve would correct all. I just traded a bunch of Canon lenses for an XT-4 and lens at KEH. Having had digital cameras since they originated, my first one being a lightphase back, your videos are very helpful in understanding all the features of this camera. Thanks!
Well Chris, without your chanel fuji users would have to suffer. Your videos are priceless. Thank you.
Great video!
Great info video. Fuji should hire you!
Magnifico video y me ha encantado que tenga el subtitulo en español, muchísimas gracias
No tiene el título en español, TH-cam te lo traduce automáticamente ya que tienes ese idioma por defecto ;-)
Great channel.
I've been interested in photography for a while now and am just collecting for my first decent camera.
You have convinced me to join the "Fuji family".
By the way.
RAW files can be edited simply as databases, maybe here it would be possible to combine these three layers?
What do you think?
That was another hdr episode! 👍thx!
You bet!
I can't confirm this because I'm shooting with X-Trans III cameras, but check the maximum values for exposure in LR for the converted DNG file. A 32bit TIFF-file has exposure values between +-10EV where a normal RAW-file only has +-5EV. Also I'd suggest doing a video about the compressed lossless RAW-format in Fuji cameras ;)
Knowing that you are actually very busy with all that Fuji stuff, I have to admit, that you are my „source of truth“ when it comes to Fuji stuff. Thanks for all your efforts - especially when it comes to HDR in the Fuji space. I came to the conclusion, that Fuji somehow lose track, how to deal with HDR. To my knowlege there are a least 4 options. I don‘t mind and stick to AE bracketing. 😊
I shoot real estate and if the results I get are anything like described - it’s a game changer for me. Subscribed!
That's awesome, thank you so much!
Great video as always Chris.
Wondering if it wouldn't be better to just shoot 3 pictures and merge as HDR in Lightroom...
i'm always excited to see a notification from this channel (:
9:30 does fujifilm hdr raf file have more flexibility when editing? if we can recover more detail in lightroom with shadow and highlight sliders from hdr raf than a normal raf like we can do with a merge hdr file, i think that's the point and it's enough for me. i don't get the advantage of converting it to dng. (i own a x-t3 by the way, it's not relevent to me right now, but i'm curious)
Great effort to make any videos of this channel. What camera used in your videos? I think it is x-t4, right?
Hi Chris, thank you for another great episode ! (After that flattery could you give me your considered opinion for a good gimbal for my XT 3 ? Thanks ! )
New Subscriber! This is the best explanation of Fujifilm HDR mode that I could find. THANK YOU! Do you ever change your Sharpness and Clarity when not using HDR mode? Or when using HDR in less than 800 +? What's my best option for Real Estate interior? Taking multiple exposures and combining Post, or using HDR and playing with contrast, clarity and brushwork post?
Thanks so much
Was shooting real estate with my xt2 and having to do all this manually. The hdr feature will save me so much time and inconsistencies in my images!
Even though the DNG file "looks” the same, did you happen to compare the amount of shadow and highlight recovery you can do on it versus the RAF or JPEG file? I suspect that may lead you to the answer. When I do this process manually by taking three bracketed exposures and convert them into an HDR file in Lightroom, the resulting image looks the same as the 0EV exposure, but the amount of detail I can recover from the upper and lower ranges of the histogram without added noise is dramatically improved.
I was thinking the same thing... the whole time I was watching and waiting for him to push the highlights and shadows in lightroom to see the difference from a regular file... I am, without looking, almost certain that you will have a lot more room to edit the HDR Raf file... This would be really cool to apply in a real estate photography sitiation or intense landscape.
Thanks!
Love your channel! So informative! Tried your technique for increasing Clarity and Sharpness when in HDR 800%+ but when in HDR drive setting on my X-T4 it grays out the Clarity adjustment and therefore doesn’t let me change it. Sharpness is ok. I’m in firmware version 1.10. What am I missing?
I wonder if Fuji’s X-Raw Studio would be able to read the 3 hidden RAW files? Or maybe at the very least give some control over the merging in post-processing.
Now I'm curious...is the HDR+ setting in the X100V the same as the HDR-800+ setting in the XT4? Or is it yet another set of parameters? Hmmm...
BTW...your videos are great!
As always great video, thank you!
I'd like to use an opportunity and ask you about AF-ON and Tracking while shooting stills. While i was fooling around with camera i thought that it would be very handy if one could release AF-ON button and the camera would continue to track selected object. I hate that i must keep the button pressed for the tracking to keep working. So please tell me your thoughts on that subject.
Really appreciate your videos! I just switched to the Fujifilm system (x-t4) from Nikon a few months ago and the menu/customizations are still creating some confusion for me. It seems like Fujifilm has a lot of settings that are very similar/redundant so I'm still trying to figure out what fits my style of shooting.
Great explanation of HDR on the X-T4! It leaves me wondering though... is it not better to simply bracket and use the HDR photomerge option in Lightroom? I guess it could be handy if you’re a JPG only shooter, or use another RAW editing program that maybe doesn’t offer easy HDR merging.
Most definitely YES for many reasons. The Adobe software-created HDR merge from 3,5 or 7 auto-bracketed Fujifilm RAWs will be far better (and more user-controllable) than what the X-T4 can produce internally, and for several reasons. In my 2021 tests, Photoshop did a far better 5-RAF frames HDR merge than Lightroom, as Lightroom is more of less an 'auto' merge. Photoshop lets you control several parameters. DXO makes the HDR Efex Pro 2 app which exceeds what I can create in Photoshop. Beyond that there are other HDR-dedicated apps well worth doing same-frames demos of to compare. Hope that helps.
Do the fuji HDR RAF/converted DNG files have cleaner shadow and highlight recovery than the regular RAF files? Just wanted to make sure whether that’s covered when it was said that no difference was seen between the HDR RAF and the converted DNG.
I don't know what fuji was thinking when they put that function there.Why use HDR when you have BKT? They should have use that time to improve the auto focus tracking performance when shooting video. The XT4 video continuous auto focus sucks, at least when using the 16-80mm and macro 80mm and recording animals.
By the way, I love your content.
Yeah you can work around it with autofocus range limiter, I got the same lens, it's better than face/eye detection, less hunting 😁👍
@@williamaungleyraud thanx, i'll give that a try. i dont use face\eye detection since i dont shoot people.
Probably using bracketing and then edit the 3 photos on Aurora HDR will most certainly provide a much better result?
Haha! at the very end you said exactly what I was thinking! Is it really necessary?...BTW you can add the Fuji X-S10 to the list of Fuji cameras with the HDR feature. Actually, I keep being surprised by how many of the XT4 features this camera has! Great video and thank you!
👍 👍 👍
Hi, could you compare it to bracketing, what is the difference?
Probably quite interesting information for property photographers shooting non flash natural light shots (brkt) Adobe dng converters are like lens manufacturers that bring out fast lenses like 0.95/ 1.2 apatures but they have fringing and only work great at F4. I wonder what the 3 different files looked like in capture one.
Hi, thank you for your awesome videos, these have been super helpful! I noticed, the HDR raw files looks completely different than the HDR jpegs, when you open the raws in Capture One. The Jpegs looks the same on x-t4's screen and on my Macs quick preview program. Do you have had this kind of a problem? The HDR raw files are impossible to edit... and honestly the HDR jpegs looks so much better. I have used both the 800% setting and the 800+.
I have same problem when you open the Raws in Lighroom.. the raw HDR can't be develop..
So, is that extra information in the raw file usable? I.E. if I try and lift the shadows or bring back the highlights, will I have more information to work with?
Thank u man
That is some crazy Fuji HDR processing. Like the DR look better. Thanks for sharing.
Hi. im a fan of your channel. can you do a low light performance on the xt3 and xt4 like using only 3 candles? do a video record or photos. and can you share with us the best settings ?
It’s crazy I watch these. I just need to get a Fuji finally. 👍
Tammyyyyy 👋🏽🙂
So many benefits to having waited! XT4 was the camera I was hoping for when I bought the XT3. Took me a month to choose between the Sony a7iii vs the fuji XT3. A very very tough decision. Full Frame + Ibis + wider lens selection + auto focus + shallower DOF, less noise at higher ISOs -VS- Fuji colour science👊🏽💥 4K60👊🏽💥10BIT👊🏽💥Chris Lee 💥👊🏽BAM 🤣 XT4 ibis would be clutch. Tho I’d rather have digital image stabilization like in the the canon EOS R
@@vishal_trivedi so you think the Fuji definitely the way to go. I’m only upgrading because I really want better dynamic range and image stabilizer. Thank you so much for your comment. You’re so sweet to reach out. 😉
I use Sony and Fuji in DR Sony big strength.
That's AWESOME Tammy!!!! Please let me know if you do and if I can help with any questions, etc.!
Tammy Sypniewski np! I’m ok with the dynamic range on the Fuji, but I would be remiss if I didn’t say Sony has the upper hand in DR amongst other things. As I think on it, it sends me back to that tough decision, which still lacks clarity lol. Rumour has it Sony a7iv this year? But Fuji is a nice image out of camera; those film sims 👌🏽🔥 the XT4 will get you decent handheld with ibis. EOS R is the ultimate vlogger’s cam if that should become your thing; wild what they can achieve with just digital stabilization. Dear Fuji...
Great, this video about dynamic range, I actually learned something new today! One question remains: is there any reason not to use the highest dynamic range available for a given ISO? Or, perhaps in other words, why is this a setting at all?
This is just a total guess, as I have an X-T2 so can't test it, but I wonder if you get the ability to edit those three hidden raw files inside the HDR raw file if you edit using In-Camera raw processing, or using X-Raw Studio?
What is the difference between in Camera HDR and shooting bracketed shots and merging in post-processing? Everything I shoot on my X-T30 is done bracketed (2 shots +- 3 stops).
If it weren't for your channel, my camera would be gathering dust.
I'm no technophobe, but complexity of menus and having to sync multiple dials/ settings in order to do what you want was doing my head in!
Would love to see you add a travel camera like the Fuji XT30 to your line-up... all the questions on google show many people are as confused as I am 😊
Manual isn't user-friendly, either
Thanks Chris! 👍
Always a pleasure. But I have one question. When I bought the XT4 last year and got into the fuji system and I thought fuji is so great in giving the customers new features and improvements for their cameras withfirmwareupdates. As far as I know there were just two minor updates for the XT4. The AF is still far away from sony AF, the IBIS does not work together with their own OIS lenses (strong wobbling effect with my 18-55 and 10-24mm...no wobbling with my two viltrox lenses 23 and 56mm at all). What about saving Custom Profiles for let's say 24fps, 60fps and 120fps? Did I make mistakes I ask myself to buy fuji?
Good comment
New firmware udaptes soon ?
6:23 aren't the colour differrences due to capture one aplying the film simulation selected in camera onto the raw while lightroom and others don t have the simulations
ant tips for the XT3 ? is there a way to do quick HDR or the only solution is to BKT + lightroom ?
So the difference between HDR and BKT is that in HDR the camera does the merge for you and BKT just saves the different photos which then you have to import into a program to merge yourself?
Can you please explain the AF-C Custom Settings?
Fast Friday Baby :)
I often set my X-T30 to bracket three different ISOs. When I go into Darktable and merge the raf files into an HDR file, it always seems to make the colours change a lot - often more yellowy. No idea why it does it, but heyho! Puts me off using it. As usual, it reminds that it's better just to try to get the light and composition right when I take the photo.
I don’t use darktable and I am not looking at your merged image results, but there are probably simple adjustments which will probably resolve the color issue.
I would start with the white balance setting. If possible, you will want to set this before the merge occurs. It may look “wrong” at that stage, but if it gives you the right final result, it could still be good. Try lowering the temperature setting and see if that helps.
Option 2: if you are doing images with artificial light (such as under streetlights at night) or with mixed light(different light sources) it is possible actual light color is being exaggerated. For this, try dialing back saturation and see if it helps.
It doesn't make sense to bracket ISO. You are not getting more light into the sensor. It's the same as lifting the shadows slider on a single picture.
Bracketing aperture is not the smartest move too since your depth of field would change between photos.
It only makes sense to bracket shutter speed.
I'm rather dissapointed at the JPEG HDR implementation by Fuji, I was hoping for much stronger shadow boost right off the bat.
Are there any visible differences between the HDR implementation on the X-T4 and the one featured in the special auto mode on the X-S10?
Is it preferable to use the Dynamic Range option for the same purpose?
Agreed. They could have been a lot more aggressive with the tone mapping to bring a smartphone-like processing to the camera. As of right now, it kind of looks just like a slightly improved DR mode
If you convert the RAF to DNG in lightroom and embed the original raw, Adobe is NOT converting all three originals to create a new DNG, it still only converts the first RAF but the resulting file will contain in addition the 3 original raws like a backup.
I'm big fan of you . From india. Sir pls xt4 which lence suitable for youtube vlogging and explore videos . Also need photography too . Pls suggest me .
Do you know if it's possible separete the 3 pics in LR our photoshop? Someone? Thanks!
Hihi, I do have a question about the topic HDR. I cannot find it on my X-S10. Where and how can i find that????? You do not know how must help your channel is for me, thanks.Henk from Holland who is a starting fujifim adapt.
Do you know the amount of crop that happens, when HDR is switched on?
The term you were thinking of was "Clown Puke."
Very interesting explanation, thanks.
I knew puke had to be in there somewhere, just forgot the specifics. 😀
I have a problem with the XT4 HDR RAW mode when put in lightroom.. the setting was changing in develop, the HDR look is gone. Why did it happen?
To split the file you'd need to know how big the header is, and thus where to find the actual pixel data.
Can any open source image editors (gimp, maybe?) open HDR RAF files? If so them browsing their source code might reveal at least which bits are header and which are pixel data.
Looking at this info in conjunction with the same for a normal raw file might enable you to write a splitter.
Speculatively it would be interesting to see if the total byte count is exactly divisible by 3 and if so it would be very quick to see if they are literally just concatenated - even if they RAWs themselves have headers, so e.g. it could be | RawHeader1 RawData1 RawHeader2 RawData2 RawHeader3 RawData3 |. If so you could literally just chop it. But I suspect it's more likely be | HdrHeader RawHeader1 RawData1 RawHeader2 RawData2 RawHeader3 RawData3 | or maybe | HdrHeader RawData1 RawData2 RawData3 |