I have been following this channel for a while and I may not understand all of it but I still like the content you make and if you do an episode about an Indian philosopher that would be great.
Very interesting made me recall an old conversation Sam Harris had with J.B Peterson, in that conversation for Sam the concept of what is Truth had nothing to do with its effects on us. In a way, for Sam, there was no hierarchy of Truth, while for JB even when there might be a scientific truth, it is not enough we still need to figure out what to do. While for JB that was a mistake. At the time I felt Sam's point was easier and more common sense, but as I thought about more and more somehow it seemed intuitively wrong. And now I completely Agree with JB. seems to me Habermas was tapping on something similar to JB.
The economy and the government as one...this explains a lot. And the role of media as a sales force. I love the idea of commutative rationally/conversation BUT I also wonder how many people can separate out, any more, what they really believe from what they’ve been sold.
Generally, no generation of humans should ever have the freedom to vote themselves into slavery, because it would take the freedom away from the next generation to decide for themselves how they would want to be governed. So when the state becomes too powerful, every citizen, politician, and soldier inside that system has an obligation to the next generation to abolish that state and establish a new government.
Hey stephen I am a 22 year old history student from Belgium who just found your podcast a few weeks ago. When i am working i have the chance to bingelisten your content, and i love it. I just arrived at the episodes about Nietsche. But i have a question for you. As you may know, there is a social conflict going on, first in the USA and now in Europe to. The thing that frustrates me is the destruction of the statues and removal of historical artifacts that dont coincide with the political correctness of today. For example statues of slave owners. As a self proclaimed historian, it breaks my heart if i see what is happening. With me on the sideline, not knowing what to do. I found some wisedom in your video's on 'tolerance', 'Slavery' and 'is killing animals For Food Morally Justifiable?'. Where you compare slave owners to meat eaters of today. The question that i have is: Do you have views or advise on the matter as I would really appreciate your help while i try to unravel the matter in my head. I am sorry for the vage question and maybe some spelling mistakes. Thank you for the amazine content! Greetings Jarne
Statues are acts of memory and memorialization, not history. Not that there isn't a relationship, but its not at all a linear one. What we choose to memorialize says a lot about the sort of values we hold as a people (speaking of Americans for instance, since you brought up statues of slave owners in the US). You bring up an apropo point in a discussion of Habermas and the public sphere because the question is - what is the public good we seek to uphold? Again, this is what statues represent, not history as such. And as a public matter, these statues should be (and are, unavoidably) public decisions. It is up to the American public what they choose to memorialize, and the fact that so many statues were removed in recent years (mostly by City councils, sometimes by activists) is a testament to a changing public. That is normal, and should be celebrated. There's enough to history to fill endless parks with statues, there will always be new events to memorialize that better describe our values. (last point - no statues do not help us remember the horrors of slavery, they often serve just the opposite. The fact that the confederate statues were mostly added decades after the civil war by groups like "Daughters of the Confederacy" illuminates this point. Memorializations like that serve to glorify, or at the very least soften our understanding of the actual horrors of this history. As a self described historian, take a second to reflect on the fact that the debates about the statues have actually contributed to more public discussions of history than the statues themselves ever produced! A benefit to historians everywhere, and to history as such (but not to memory!) www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/19/storm-americas-statues-history-whiteness
ey steven when would you have the script of this episode? like me, I guess not all your listeners are anglos speakers. I do my best, but a script would help a lot. Keep doing it. you are the best philosophy teacher
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love u big dawg
The best! I am trying to listen to all the years I have missed.
My top 5 favorite podcast. Thanks mr west
I'm at episode #63! Gonna catch up with you fellas!
Thumbs up from a Taiwanese listener! Looking forward to the following series of Habermas!
Hey, I love your podcasts. They make philosophy so easy to understand! You should also make a podcast on J.L.Mackie and Meta-Ethics!
I love your channel! Could you please do a video on the nature of freedom and human rights please!
finally a new episode!! , keep em coming love your content
nice to hear you back. will listen to sleep...
Loved it, especially the fork in the eye example. When's pt.2 coming?
love to know that too!
thank u so much for making this podcast ❤️❤️
I have been following this channel for a while and I may not understand all of it but I still like the content you make and if
you do an episode about an Indian philosopher that would be great.
Ah, Habermas. I hated this guy in college. This will be interesting to listen to. Wondered when you'd get to him.
Why did you hate him in college?
Is there a pt2?
I love this!!!!
where is the part 2
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This episode is so full of logical holes and hidden premises that it feels like a test for the listeners to see who's really paying attention.
Very interesting made me recall an old conversation Sam Harris had with J.B Peterson, in that conversation for Sam the concept of what is Truth had nothing to do with its effects on us. In a way, for Sam, there was no hierarchy of Truth, while for JB even when there might be a scientific truth, it is not enough we still need to figure out what to do. While for JB that was a mistake. At the time I felt Sam's point was easier and more common sense, but as I thought about more and more somehow it seemed intuitively wrong. And now I completely Agree with JB. seems to me Habermas was tapping on something similar to JB.
Which books would you recommend for further reading about Public sphere?
The economy and the government as one...this explains a lot. And the role of media as a sales force. I love the idea of commutative rationally/conversation BUT I also wonder how many people can separate out, any more, what they really believe from what they’ve been sold.
Still waiting for Habermas Pt. 2! : )
Yes... what happened!
Way over his cognitive capabilities and his right wing preferences
The irony in all of this, is that Habermas required Instrumental Reasoning in order to critique Adorno.
Awesome!!!
Generally, no generation of humans should ever have the freedom to vote themselves into slavery, because it would take the freedom away from the next generation to decide for themselves how they would want to be governed. So when the state becomes too powerful, every citizen, politician, and soldier inside that system has an obligation to the next generation to abolish that state and establish a new government.
Love your content. Keep up the good work.
why dont you have an episode on slavoj zizek
Hello, I am new to the podcast and I wanted to ask.
What is the enlightenment?
Look at the episodes regarding the frankfurt school of enlightenment. I think there were a series of 4 or so. They are a really good listen!
Stephen, do u think Habermas, partially, answers to some problems that Carl Schmitt saw in liberalism?
Does anyone know Stephen West's email? thanks!
I was curious about this too. If you know it thatd be great!
Hey stephen
I am a 22 year old history student from Belgium who just found your podcast a few weeks ago. When i am working i have the chance to bingelisten your content, and i love it.
I just arrived at the episodes about Nietsche.
But i have a question for you.
As you may know, there is a social conflict going on, first in the USA and now in Europe to.
The thing that frustrates me is the destruction of the statues and removal of historical artifacts that dont coincide with the political correctness of today. For example statues of slave owners.
As a self proclaimed historian, it breaks my heart if i see what is happening. With me on the sideline, not knowing what to do.
I found some wisedom in your video's on 'tolerance', 'Slavery' and 'is killing animals For Food Morally Justifiable?'.
Where you compare slave owners to meat eaters of today.
The question that i have is:
Do you have views or advise on the matter as I would really appreciate your help while i try to unravel the matter in my head.
I am sorry for the vage question and maybe some spelling mistakes.
Thank you for the amazine content!
Greetings
Jarne
Statues are acts of memory and memorialization, not history. Not that there isn't a relationship, but its not at all a linear one. What we choose to memorialize says a lot about the sort of values we hold as a people (speaking of Americans for instance, since you brought up statues of slave owners in the US).
You bring up an apropo point in a discussion of Habermas and the public sphere because the question is - what is the public good we seek to uphold? Again, this is what statues represent, not history as such.
And as a public matter, these statues should be (and are, unavoidably) public decisions. It is up to the American public what they choose to memorialize, and the fact that so many statues were removed in recent years (mostly by City councils, sometimes by activists) is a testament to a changing public. That is normal, and should be celebrated. There's enough to history to fill endless parks with statues, there will always be new events to memorialize that better describe our values.
(last point - no statues do not help us remember the horrors of slavery, they often serve just the opposite. The fact that the confederate statues were mostly added decades after the civil war by groups like "Daughters of the Confederacy" illuminates this point. Memorializations like that serve to glorify, or at the very least soften our understanding of the actual horrors of this history.
As a self described historian, take a second to reflect on the fact that the debates about the statues have actually contributed to more public discussions of history than the statues themselves ever produced! A benefit to historians everywhere, and to history as such (but not to memory!)
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/19/storm-americas-statues-history-whiteness
Great content. Just please, can the voice be a little bit more louder? Fan of the podcast!!
ey steven when would you have the script of this episode? like me, I guess not all your listeners are anglos speakers. I do my best, but a script would help a lot.
Keep doing it. you are the best philosophy teacher
I'm pretty sure he does on the website! For every episode
Why are the closed captions for this video solely in Turkish?
WHY IS THIS CONTENT NOT BEING MONETIZED??
There are no are because it is a podcasts
Well, he has a patreon page...
He makes a nice amount of money on Patreon
Why should it be?
SO good.
What do you think of the hermetic teachings of thoth?
Can you do one on Giambattista Vico?
"Economic growth" we were living in heaven before totalitarian agriculture.
"He just calls it 'the system'.. but the point is". LOL THE SYSTEM.
I would not mind even if this channel is monetized.
Predatory Buffalos Strikes back!
How do we evolve from global capitalism?
Can you do a Ted Kaczynski episode?
That would be a ride
Not a philosopher.
Dudes named Jürgen... I swear man...
When you are named Jürgen, you are destined for philosophy
I've made some videos with snippets of the philosophize this podcast over some nice nature videos and chill music if anyone wants to check them out! I'm getting into video editing and these podcasts (well especially the ones about existentialism) always make me feel better about life, they're just like 2 minutes long and take the main points :)