Habermas: The Structural Transformation of the Public Sphere

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  • In this video, I look at Jurgen Habermas' book, the Structural Transformation of the Public Sphere, and its consequences today, especially in relation to questions about the internet.
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ความคิดเห็น • 143

  • @hanumania
    @hanumania 5 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    Thank you for this valuable commentary. (Background music super distracting)

    • @whoeverofhowevermany
      @whoeverofhowevermany 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      So distracting

    • @wufffwuff
      @wufffwuff 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Sadly also second point is true. The audio mix is not quite right, since the music is too loud. :(

    • @virtualselfie6899
      @virtualselfie6899 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@whoeverofhowevermany Very hard to discern the words of the narrator because of loud background.

    • @dsalazarm
      @dsalazarm 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s easy to loud and thrumming i agree

    • @virtualselfie6899
      @virtualselfie6899 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dsalazarm I have my Habermas book on my table here, so will just re-read it. Glad I kept all my philosophy books; when the grid really goes down, I have something to do ~~ ponder.

  • @sadywootten7668
    @sadywootten7668 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Love the music from Habermas' album 'Live At the Public Sphere'!

  • @bluehampar
    @bluehampar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I hade completely misunderstood the concept of refeudalization. This made things alot clearer but also messy for the things i'm doing
    Thanks for a good explanation

  • @mariakristinasmith9423
    @mariakristinasmith9423 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    This is really well explained; love it! I do have one suggestion: would be great if you could leave a link or two to scholary works about this subject (would be a great help to students)

    • @ThenNow
      @ThenNow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Usually do in the description but must have forgotten for this one, unfortunately!

  • @Superjosh132
    @Superjosh132 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I had to do a project on Habermas and this video was extremely informative

  • @asif42224
    @asif42224 6 ปีที่แล้ว +134

    The background music only serves as a distraction. You should re-upload these videos without the music. Great content, you got me hooked to your channel.

    • @malamati007
      @malamati007 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I agree....and some of the background graphics (especially the videos that are rolling while displayed) DISTRACT ATTENTION from the simultaneous voice-over narration. This IS the current (and visually/aurally appealing) style of such 5-10 minute mini-lectures, but (apropos the topic of this particular video) some elements may fail to respect the need of viewers to concentrate on the verbal messages that are being delivered. It is an error to use "the language of film" (images, particularly moving images, rapid cuts from one image to another, complex images, etc.) when the use of these techniques masks the essential message and degrades the effectiveness of the video itself. Does the creator desire his/her audience to come away with as complete and accurate an understanding, and retention, of the intended message? Or does s/he wish viewers to be pleased by the visual and aural presentation, to the exclusion of real understanding? These are worthy of consideration. This is a very appealing video, and I appreciate it on its own merits--but I come away thinking that (were I to edit it and make revisions) I would tone down the volume of the background music, and assess whether the accompanying images contribute to, or perhaps detract from, my essential aim.

    • @ThenNow
      @ThenNow  6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      This is good advice - I will take it onboard. Thanks

    • @jpgrumbach8562
      @jpgrumbach8562 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just tried to listen, but couldn't. Are you considering to offer this without music? It is a pity.

    • @daaave_m
      @daaave_m 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don't think the music itself is a problem, It's more a matter of volumes; soothing music can aid concentration if kept in the background. In this video, however, the volume for the music is slightly too high

    • @Chas993
      @Chas993 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Let me pile on. The music is a distraction in its current form. But thanks for the talk.

  • @henrygoldman2597
    @henrygoldman2597 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm impressed with the quality of this video. It's a great introduction to the subject.

  • @frankwalley4741
    @frankwalley4741 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Sooo informative, thank you for this! Really helps me with my PHIL 3500 course on ideology!!

    • @goofycker
      @goofycker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ja ja, credit points, credit points... that's all you want

  • @ILoveMagic15
    @ILoveMagic15 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Thank you so much for this! Please, please, please make more Habermas videos, e.g. about The Philosophical Discourse of Modernity and The Theory of Communicative Reason. I think Habermas is needed more than ever in this day and age.

  • @alexjupiter4696
    @alexjupiter4696 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This was awesome. Thank you so much for this! Please keep this up.

  • @jasjay873
    @jasjay873 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    pretty cool dude. A great weave of theory and history without overburdening the other.

  • @wcropp1
    @wcropp1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Great video. I love me some Habermas.

    • @ThenNow
      @ThenNow  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you! Me too

  • @charloot9799
    @charloot9799 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m about to finish an essay on this, it’s been really interesting to learn about.

  • @stephenpowstinger733
    @stephenpowstinger733 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Well, I’m not impressed with Habermas’ overall theory but he makes some good points. - A very messy situation of verticals and horizontals of various type groups....I can say that my father was a newspaper editor from the thirties to the mid sixties and dealing with various autocratic publishers was a constant source of anger and frustration for him leading to his self-destruction.

  • @mitchellkato1436
    @mitchellkato1436 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No one has said this out right, but language is the ultimate technology. Therefore as the video points out, in the evolution of the society the power that the printing publisher took was very notable. Perhaps its a platonic divide between the writer (an individual) and the reader (the mass) becomes even more significant. And there is a complex socio-typography that influences throughout the circulation of language. For example, usually the bible will have a very bible like typography. Language is never a medium free technology. So there will be a web like communication of language. While the bible and classical language will be extended in more organic fashion. Present language will have complexity that will be perhaps called socio-textuality. This video (Habermas) has captured a historical progression. But then we could always slice this world in the way most interesting.

  • @MrGatsypie
    @MrGatsypie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't mind the music... Great content.

  • @mariamihaelo6950
    @mariamihaelo6950 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As an ADHD folk who can't study from notes, thank you so much!

  • @Slowp0w
    @Slowp0w 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Very nice and reflective video about his thoughts regarding the Public Sphere. The background music is maybe a bit too loud compared to the voice over, I found it a bit distracting, trying to focus on the narrative. Regardless, you have a new sub! great content :)

  • @ssrabbi
    @ssrabbi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should do a video on John Dewey and William James. There is almost nothing on TH-cam done on them in a sophisticated way.

  • @josealonso5971
    @josealonso5971 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for creating this video. It has helped me lots.

  • @richardgraham6511
    @richardgraham6511 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great content and pace, thanks!

  • @alinevandevelde7179
    @alinevandevelde7179 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    the music...why

  • @gerryrodgers
    @gerryrodgers 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is very good, nice depth of information in short time frame

  • @Knowledgebrief128
    @Knowledgebrief128 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a great video. Thankyou very much!

  • @Skylark_Jones
    @Skylark_Jones ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the background music. As long as it's not loud.

  • @melkam9917
    @melkam9917 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    How do you pronounce 'sphere' Man.

  • @goofycker
    @goofycker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    cool music, fits Habermas totally

  • @kerrys.strong9006
    @kerrys.strong9006 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wish you could turn off the background music...

  • @markmcdonald4781
    @markmcdonald4781 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    great help in understanding Habermas. Thanks

  • @bradapotamus
    @bradapotamus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The most relevant philosophy of the modern age.

  • @LogicGated
    @LogicGated ปีที่แล้ว

    Clear and concise

  • @rob_jewitt
    @rob_jewitt 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful overview for my undergrads :}

  • @jladimirceroline4535
    @jladimirceroline4535 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wow this brings to mind also mcluhan

  • @cloudmonkeys
    @cloudmonkeys 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice comment thread but I had to stop reading through it because of all of the complaints about the background music in the video, please rewrite your comments minus the complaints.

  • @mattlame4976
    @mattlame4976 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your content is good, keep it up.

    • @ThenNow
      @ThenNow  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks!

  • @benwilcox1484
    @benwilcox1484 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Can we at least...turn down the music...?

  • @cam9913
    @cam9913 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is veryy relevant right now.

  • @emiliadelapazvega3618
    @emiliadelapazvega3618 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful video!

  • @liamsimas4201
    @liamsimas4201 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    very helpful and insightful thank you!

  • @arioalbertozulini381
    @arioalbertozulini381 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    What the hell is the issue with the background music in the comments?
    1. it isn't distracting
    2. it makes the video more smooth

    • @PappyMandarine
      @PappyMandarine 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes if you want to be entertained, that is entirely true. Reading advice where this issue is specifically tackled: Neil Postman, Amusing ourselves to death (1985). Btw I believe Neil Postman follows after Habermas in many of his own points, so by reading this book you'll hit two birds with one stone: it will answer your question AND help you deepen your knowledge of the topic of this video.

    • @arioalbertozulini381
      @arioalbertozulini381 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PappyMandarine I struggle following your train of thought on the second part. I find the first part arguable, as I used this video to recap Habermas' theories for an academic aspect, since I wasn't too familiar with his theories.

  • @Josuekv
    @Josuekv 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please, whats the image at 4:47 ?

  • @Carpet_Carp
    @Carpet_Carp 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    He is still alive, you know. :P

  • @dimitrisoikonomou5607
    @dimitrisoikonomou5607 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I liked your video! However, where can i find online the book "The Permanent Campaign: New Media, New Politics"?
    Thank you

  • @lootplx
    @lootplx 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video!

  • @joebates4979
    @joebates4979 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    great vid dude!!!

  • @user-td7vg1op9y
    @user-td7vg1op9y 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    background music interferes with the speaker. Can u lower it or better remove it?

  • @DS-tz4lk
    @DS-tz4lk 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    So prescient, ty!

  • @AlinaHameed-mb5rk
    @AlinaHameed-mb5rk ปีที่แล้ว

    Please keep volume of music in background very low or don't keep it. It is disturbing and makes it difficult to hear

  • @rachelfernandez1949
    @rachelfernandez1949 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    what's with that music?
    removing that would be of great help

  • @carstenschale6833
    @carstenschale6833 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    He is GREAT!

  • @marceloduarte2620
    @marceloduarte2620 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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    [04:18 - 04:48]
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  • @tiramisu10001
    @tiramisu10001 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video but the music is a big distraction.

  • @rostislavgramskopf4648
    @rostislavgramskopf4648 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sadly, the music is way too loud. It is disturbing :(

  • @nadiagharbi1936
    @nadiagharbi1936 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    the background music is so annoying and distracting

  • @julianbassk
    @julianbassk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    POV: your chillin with Audrey in the public sphere of the Twin Peaks coffee shop

  • @edwardbarlow1711
    @edwardbarlow1711 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    really great

  • @z0uLess
    @z0uLess 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The problem is with the speed at which these new forms of communications pop up and how the traditional academic only have methods that take years and years to develop. They will always lag behind the cultural manipulation of the algorithm tampering of corporate interests.

    • @Pusse1978
      @Pusse1978 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well, it is argued that the studies of media can only be done with a historical perspective for context, since it is hard to "see the forest" as we live it in the present.
      So, maybe this is not really a problem?

  • @mariaaaa1128
    @mariaaaa1128 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The jazz music tho

  • @hongdekong
    @hongdekong 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    the public sefear?

  • @magnusekerot726
    @magnusekerot726 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    @5.42 ooohhhh someone's got the big brainz

  • @bfree-gm6xw
    @bfree-gm6xw 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the audio is too loud in the mix.

    • @godwantsplastic
      @godwantsplastic 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      b. free everything you hear is audio. Derp

  • @cassanrdafusco3180
    @cassanrdafusco3180 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Clear and succinct. Thank you.

  • @politicsasvocation6505
    @politicsasvocation6505 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice :)

  • @adamisforgiants6762
    @adamisforgiants6762 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the music I am tired of people bitching about it.

  • @SinaHazratpour
    @SinaHazratpour 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    No bg music please!

  • @alinevandevelde7179
    @alinevandevelde7179 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    subject : good, but the intonation of a voice is very important in a video like this....

  • @athiranvijayakumar1990
    @athiranvijayakumar1990 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey dude... the presentation is quite good but the bgm is annoying....

  • @mantoleung
    @mantoleung 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Background music is too disturbing and therefore redundant.

  • @SamsungA-th6fk
    @SamsungA-th6fk ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tam dixit quam voluit. Interpretazione dichiarativa. Art. 1364 e 1367 cc. vigente.

    • @SamsungA-th6fk
      @SamsungA-th6fk ปีที่แล้ว +1

      cfr. Francis Varvello.

    • @SamsungA-th6fk
      @SamsungA-th6fk ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Si, antenato del corrispondente RAI da Londra.

    • @SamsungA-th6fk
      @SamsungA-th6fk ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Eis Megaloprepeian, parola di Aristotele!!!

  • @smilemaster07
    @smilemaster07 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Voiceover inaudible over high pitched BGM. watched a minute, had to stop. Pity.

  • @marchdarkenotp3346
    @marchdarkenotp3346 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tone down the BGM.

  • @11NEWSTART
    @11NEWSTART 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What the video doesn't do is begin to explain why there is a perceived need to create a theory of communicative action. While trying to hold on to a concept of social transformation for the better inherited from Marx, it was obvious to western Marxists that dialectical materialism carries a vast amount of philosophical baggage unjustified by Marx's own materialist methodology. Key is the concepts "better", "justice", "the good", "happiness". That there is some shared meaning to these terms is taken for granted by Marx, but from a modern philosophical perspective they rely on Hegel's essentially theological worldview. To ascribe meaning or validity to these essential social concepts, Habermas envisages an "ideal speech situation" which assumes value concepts. The problem is that Habermas' work never escapes from the Kantian formalism of his starting point, so the leap from the formal criteria to meaning never really happens.
    You can see the same issue in the concept of the public sphere. Habermas retells the story of the emergence of mass politics, but the "sphere" is a formal concept which has no purchase on the content of what is being said. Again there is no successful link between form and content. The importance of mass politics is also in what is being said and not just the non-coercion of the context of the speech. But materialism cannot get from the form to the content without violating its formalist rules.
    In his later life Habermas spoke with Pope Benedict about his concern with collapsing values and the collapse of the family. But the question is whether you can defend the "traditional family" or any family norms from a materialist perspective.

  • @flor06221
    @flor06221 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Public discourse is only applicable to thinking or rational people. Other opinionated people idolizes their own opinions thus unable to engage in relevant discourse. Openess and widening ones horison could be helpful in public discourses.

    • @anathema2me4EVR
      @anathema2me4EVR 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      if only you were more self-aware.

  • @erikboden6445
    @erikboden6445 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:28 ... Wut?

  • @mdmithunpervez9863
    @mdmithunpervez9863 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dusseldorf

  • @AntTonyLOLKID
    @AntTonyLOLKID 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    suhf-fear

  • @ihorro
    @ihorro 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why this idiotic music?

  • @brendanramsey8311
    @brendanramsey8311 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Suhfea

  • @ateshsharma8
    @ateshsharma8 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The narrator makes me feel drowzyyy! "School of life" has a good energetic narrator but limited content ...

  • @luizz_k
    @luizz_k 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    the music sucks

  • @technodestination4763
    @technodestination4763 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please remove the bloody music

  • @PaulB511
    @PaulB511 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Stupid music made me stop listening. Can't stand that crap in videos. Pity as this had potential.

  • @user-kp3db1wu4w
    @user-kp3db1wu4w 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Get rid of the f*cking music

  • @SkittleBuk1
    @SkittleBuk1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The way you pronounce sphere is beyond triggering. What is wrong with you?

    • @godwantsplastic
      @godwantsplastic 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      SkittleBuk1 probably time to have your lithium level checked...

    • @SkittleBuk1
      @SkittleBuk1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@godwantsplastic ?

  • @pinwheel8723
    @pinwheel8723 ปีที่แล้ว

    please please stop with the music, its almost the same volume of the talking and very hard to focus :(