i love how they judge every part of them and then go “just show who you are.” no, that’s not what they wanna see. they want you to show a curated version of yourself that you pretend is really you but isn’t. this video makes my skin crawl
The main problem that I have the American college system is that they look for kids who’ve already accomplished greatness and found their place in the world. In reality, these are really unfair expectations for most kids who are generally only 17 to 18 and still being kids.
I have found that there is a problem where kids are trained to market themselves to colleges before they understand how they would like to function in the world we have built today. College is a business, we are the resources they decide to convert into workers based in how the CHILD markets themselves. It's predatory! Then the second we are legal adults, we are signing legally binding loans that don't seem that worth it 2, 3, 10 years later when you understand more.
That is very true American process is way too much in Canada we just put our grades and you get in based off that not community service this ain’t no job 😂
You’re being hyperbolic. There are so many colleges that accept students who have “okay” EC’s. But if you’re are applying to Harvard, the bar is going to be set high, and you can’t be mad at that. It’s a prestigious skool.
I hate that they went so hard on the first guy because he's an athlete, saying that a 3.5 GPA wasn't strong enough - but as soon as the other guy walked-in, they said a 3.46 was really strong and he had barely more than 100 pts on his SAT score.... really? This is crazy to me. You can't ask athlete to be both that much better with their grades AND in their sport. That's insane.
I can't believe Americans have to pay for college AND have to spend 50+ hours a week on school, extra classes, sports, jobs and community service to get in... That's crazy.
@@everestmaher1092 Other countries have many successful people too, but most of them are not that interested in the press etc as most successful Americans are and then of course the USA has a high popularity so maybe that's why it seems like the States have way more successful people than other countries.
I really loved both of the applicators. The lady was brutally honest & provided comments that would really help the students where as the guy really thought out of the box & took into account of their experiences and their potential growth.
And that’s in turn they are both great. Just having a board of different views such as these two people would be great for diversity. Having too much of one of each views would ruin
Should do this with older generations. like someone 40+ gets their application reviewed to see if they would still get into the school they went to. could also see if the standards are higher/lower now if they get rejected/accepted/waitlisted
The standards get higher as each year goes by. Since everyone's trying to reach the top, trying to reach the top and having all these accomplishments then becomes the new normal/average. The same is happening in other areas like the olympics, job requirments, etc where the bar for average keeps geting raised.
i knew people with 4.4s, multiple varsity sports, 9-10 ap classes, leadership positions, volunteering, and essays that were well written and showed passion. they were rejected from ucs and definitely usc. our valedictorians got rejected from usc and most of the ucs. this video doesn’t represent the real outcomes of college admissions
GPA is subjective to the school. Sports normally don't matter to colleges. Many times there are more reasons than "but they had perfect stats" that get you rejected. The essay is subjective per admission reader.
wow that’s crazy!!! the girl with the low gpa gets rejected, the girl with the high gpa and amazing ecs gets accepted, and the two mediocre ppl get waitlisted. would’ve never guessed, thank you jubilee for this profound study
Yeah kinda think they could've got better examples of students who are in between obvious placements. With a valedictorian, it's like obviously she's going to get accepted, what's even the point of showing it.
I think one of the main problems I have with the college application system is that they make students feel like they have to go above and beyond in their extracurriculars. That barely gives kids enough time to enjoy their lives. Compared to the UK application and acceptance process, ours seems like too much work.
The reason students have to go above and beyond is because others do. So many students are applying to college nowadays relative to the amount of college acceptances. So the curve is full of students doing extra just to get ahead of the others.
Yea and extracurriculars are expensive, so I'm sure there are a lot of bright kids that don't have the resources or ability to do extracurricular activities.
In India, you just give a standardized test and et voila, you are selected according to your score. None of these type of shits are carried out. Interview? Essay writing? What are we 5?
@Turtle yikes. Pretty sure I didn’t make bad financial decisions. I wanted to be a teacher and you have to have a degree for that. I worked 3 jobs during college and still have debt. I didn’t have any financial support from family and got as many scholarships as I could. I wouldn’t state that taking out student loans is a bad financial decision if you know what you’re going to college for.
@Turtle how did you pull that off? did u start at a CC, get scholarships, work part time, etc? I'm curious because I would eventually like to go to school with no debt
As a college counselor, my response is: wuuuttt? This is not realistic and gives students a false idea of how the process works. I was excited to see this video but then bummed by how it turned out. This had so much potential!
@@finitecurve the main issue is that they didn’t actually take the typical factors into account. They only discussed the high level markers (GPA, test score, essay) without taking into account parent background, location (like being in-state or OOS), all the short answers, letters of recommendation, what actual colleges they’re pretending to read for, etc. Also, one of the reps says a 3.5 is a strong GPA and I believe that rep was for USC? That would definitely be a lower GPA for USC, and you can find that on their common data set. About 5% of who USC accepted last year had below a 3.5. I hope this is helpful
I kinda wish we were able to receive an audio recording of some sort from applicators to the places we applied too just to get an idea why we were accepted, waitlisted, or rejected. Cause it could be a huge bunch of lessons to learn from there.
I actually go to USC and when I asked for my admissions profile, I was told they got rid of it before the next application cycle began- so I only had maybe 4 months (from acceptance to the cycle opening in the fall) to actually request it- which how would I have known that?
@@wildeskompositum9556 A perfect example of what I'm talking about. Someone with a more robust mentality would see such a thing as "Alright, I lost. How do I patch up the holes in my file?" But people like you don't react like that, as evidenced by your comment.
@@FerretCuddles I have serious self confidence issues. Particularly about my behaviour as a human being. I avoid social confrontation. But I love work reviews and things like this. I love knowing exactly what I can improve on, and what changes I need to make to be perceived more positively . People need to realize these aren’t personal attacks, these are people giving genuine feedback on the downfalls they see .
I feel the girl with a 2.8. Sometimes you just need a chance. In high school, I had the same GPA, and strived to do better in college and ended with a 3.9 and am now applying to Ph.D. programs, you can seriously do anything you set your mind to!
Very true When you're at high school, you're still a kid. Some people go through some of the worst times of their lives during those 3 years, and when you're already going through so much, grades just don't matter anymore. It sucks knowing you simply would never ever get accepted into some universities due to your f*cked up mental health as a kid and you'll have to pay the price of that for a long time in your adult life if not the rest of your life.
as long as you are hard working, you'll get to where you want. I have a cousin, who was homeschooled in the countryside. She went to community college, and then transferred to an average university after two years, and then got accepted to architect school. Now she works with companies like Apple and Space X.
Maybe they should have had admissions officers ranking to different standards, like one ivy league, one T-50, one T-100? Or been clear about what kind of college's standards they are ranking with? It's just weird to not have any context for what "accepted" or "rejected" means Edit: missed that they did write the schools that the admissions officers are ranking for, but even among the UC system for example acceptance rates are radically different... UCLA and UCR for instance. Would be nice to have more variety I think?
I wish they had more variety but in the beginning of the video it says Sylvia is from UC and Corey is from USC so they are ranking to those California schools standards.
@@cinnamonbyun I graduated USC but got rejected my first time, then deferred my transfer app and eventually got in. I wish i had the Corey admissions guy my first time lmaoooo.
an excellent GPA does mean an excellent student, a poor GPA does not mean a poor student, however. I think the latter is what you were probably thinking, as if the former implies the opposite.
@@catnap7579 No, I meant exactly what I said. I'll even expound for you: An excellent GPA does NOT mean an excellent student, as being an excellent student involves criteria that are beyond grades. It's why community service, experience, and attitude/aptitude are measured and evaluated in essays. GPA does not measure those criteria, therefore an excellent GPA does not mean you have an excellent student; Sincerely, An Adult.
Am I the only one who felt really bad for the theatre girl? Keep shining sis, you’ll find your niche be it school or pursuing acting. Life’s just starting!
I mean she got rejected just like many others, she didn't put in as much dedication as a lot of other applicants. She still seems to have her next 10 ish years planned out though, what is there to feel bad about?
This is so triggering. What does my community service or side hustle or personality have to do with me actually succeeding in college. The whole admissions process is a problem
@Pedro Fernandes Except the students in this video are more than likely going to have to pay the institution to go to their school. So taxpayers money isn't an excuse.
@@keys2467yes, a steady heart means that you’re healthy lol not being upset by constructive criticism means that you’re self-assured and mentally secured, how is that not healthy
I loved how both college administrators judge so differently yet so similarly. Their judgement comes from two different places but are both so unique, so needed! This will definitely be a great series! I wish I had this before starting college lol
To clarify for people who are not from the US, this high of standards are really only expected for very prestigious colleges, you can easily get into regular colleges as long as you don’t have horrible grades (and in my state we don’t even need test scores or essays they are only optional)
some high schools feed directly into community colleges. it's really quite easy to get into *a* college, but getting into a prestigious one (ivy league, etc) definitely isn't for the weak of heart.
@@KarateLauren The state I'm in provides 2 years of community college for free if you go directly after high school. it saves so much and acceptance rates as a transfer are higher than straight out of high school, because the 4 years university doesn't have to guess about how you will perform in higher education classes. They already see through your gpa and course rigor.
I wish collegees were more like this, because maybe less kids in America (including me) worked extra hard for years to be so disappointed and discouraged just being told no and that your not enough. Knowing that someone at some point saw that you were.
I have ADHD and NVLD so i know how you feel. I was fortunate to be able to go to a decent undergrad and graduate institution. I feel fortunate the the US application system worked for me, but I was limited to where i could apply because even though i had a 3.6 high school, my classmates mostly had 4.0 grades. I also took only 1 AP class at my high school because most were too hard for me because AP classes at my high school were a lot more challenging than the average high school's classes
Boy if you don’t stop looking down on yourself and just go learn whatever is required of you to operate efficiently in what you desire. Stop looking for a participation trophy.
The US application system is so bad, I think one of the main problems is that you’re applying just to a college rather than a subject. In the UK we can focus on showing our achievements and interest in the subject we wish to pursue further at degree level rather than having to flex a million extracurricular activities that add absolutely nothing to you as a student in a particular field.
It depends for the US tho. Personally, I’m applying to a specific subject in the US for a specific college of a subject. This allows me to focus more on that area of focus and pursue internships, classes, and extra curricular related to it. That way, i’m focused on that subject and not doing every club under the sun.
@Lockdown Banter I think it’s a double edged sword, if this approach was taken here I would personally be struggling a lot more. The system would force me to gain a lower quality of further education than that provided by the universities Im looking to attend in the UK. But I see how for some a more diversified approach would be beneficial. I am applying for mechanical engineering so being able to focus on maths, Physics and product design for the last two years of my secondary education has been really enjoyable.
tea. typical scenario: i think it's unfair for some sports person to be valued higher than a nerd who's into what they're studying just because the sports person is doing "extracurricular stuff" and they're allegedly a "well-rounded person".
@Lockdown Banter it really depends to a certain extent , for example if someone likes math and it has always been their passion , I don't see how Japanese history or drama can be beneficial to them , sure it's fun but colleges shouldn't focus too much on extracurricular activities if the applicant already have in mind what they wanna do in life .
it’s really hard to sit back and watch this video. there are so many exhaustive measures to the college application process. i hope this doesn’t make any of these kids feel bad or not enough.
“He does have time he’s only a junior” -when I tell you I literally did not have a single day to myself as a junior from between my ap classes, SAT prep, hw, studying for tests, studying for redos, and on top of that a part time job that often was more like a full time job- it is so sickening how people view literal kids now and especially the American school system that asks so much from us and that was just my schedule last year as a junior I didn’t even do sports or extracurriculars for that matter and I have friends who did that actually had no time to just relax and not worry abt anything for a solid few hours
They say that it’s difficult to write a college application. It varies per country, and the cases per student technically aren’t the same. At least these people are giving constructive feedback to them. It’s something that’s helpful to them in many ways.
@@kei8679 yeah they do but it’s still much cheaper because you transfer to a full university so you can receive the degree. i’m a neuroscience major and i go to a community college so i can transfer to a full university for their neurosci program
For the West Coast students out there I want to share a useful bit of semi-unrelated information. There is a program called Western Undergraduate Exchange that makes it so the 13 Western most states (Arizona, Washington, Oregon, New Mexico, Nevada, Utah, Wyoming, etc.) plus Alaska and Hawaii allow students that live in one of the states to attend a college in another state while paying close to in-state tuition costs. As an example if I am in California and want to attend University of Nevada, Las Vegas if I apply regularly the cost for a non-resident is $23,961 and the resident costs are $7,470. So a student applying from out of state through the WUE program pays $11,205 (7,470 x 1.5). So let me just say you save a lot. Of course this applies to certain campuses and majors.
i would take this video with a grain of salt as getting into college is like a lottery. even if you are qualified, they only have so many spots and often will look for certain hobbies to fill in class gaps (they need a cellist, lax player, etc). so when looking at applicants as a whole, the applicants here who were accepted may have been rejected depending on class need.
This is why you should always go to a community college first and then transfer to a university because it makes your university journey less expensive and you're more likely to get accepted into the university you apply for since colleges can see you're almost done anyways.
No fr. I started at community college, transferred, and now I'm about to graduate from UC Davis in the spring with 0 debt. People hate on CC but spend tens of thousands of dollars on a university straight out of high school when they have no idea what they even what to do.
I agree. The transfer applications also don't require you to submit your ACT or SAT scores when you transfer. All the transfer applications I completed said ACT or SAT scores were optional to include in the application. I'm not proud of those scores, so I did not list them.
Watching this as someone who’s not from the US is really shocking and sad to see how these kids are given so many expectations as if they were adults and how not everyone is given the same chances to have a career… Honestly, they education system in the US sucks!!
In most countries does everyone really have the same chance to have a career? Anyways this video is not reality. In elite colleges yes the acceptance rate is very low. But getting into college overall is pretty easy. There are public universities that are easy to to get into (In California there is the Cal State universities if you can't get into the UCs) and community college which will take everyone. There are many private colleges out there that are hurting for applicants. There are literally thousands of colleges in the US, these admission officers are from some of the top ones so not really giving the whole picture.
@@shawnthomas6492 lol ok. The point of the comment the US is not a difficult country to go to college in at all. Even in competitive majors you can go to junior college and transfer to CSU or UC if you have decent grades. And if you don't- well not everyone is cut out to be a CS or engineering major if they can't handle the prereqs at a JC. At my regular public high school everyone who wanted to go to college did so and those that didn't chose not to, not because they couldn't get in somewhere. In other countries only the top high school students can get into college and you are stuck unless you have rich parents to send them to the US or other Western country for college.
This video just shows how messed up the college system is, and as a high schooler trying to go to college, this video barely scratches the surface of the amount of stress and other things that colleges put you through just to have a chance to have your application even read
Personally I had 1550 SAT, and a 3.94 GPA with 8 AP Classes, 6 Community advanced college courses (4.0 GPA), trilingual subject SAT score max, essays were great. 2 Sports (Swim and Football), 200 hours community service (teaching kids to code), Summer CS internship, and much more. I got rejected from most UC's and USC ;(. Currently majoring at Cal Poly Slo for CS. ;(((
Yep. Non-legacy applicants should be outrageously smart students with national-level accomplishments. High SAT score, GPA, and class rank mean little as most valedictorians/salutatorians across the country will find out.
Wow... compared to here in Australia we just receive a rank out of 99.95, top universities ask for 99 as a cut off which of course is extremely difficult. But there are many universities that supply support to students that attend unrepresented schools that bump up their atar (rank) and also receive special benefits. For example I did well in psychology this year so I was accepted early into a uni through a program, which also lowered the selection rank and already considers me for an honours degree. We don't need to write essays or anything in Australia in order to apply. America seems very difficult
That last girl needs to be challenged. She's clearly a strong worker and has taken advantage of every opportunity given to her. I would have asked "Have you ever failed at something you put your full mind and effort into?" If she can't come up with something then she's one bad day away from a nervous breakdown. Seen this happen way too often in candidates. Brighter students need harder tests! Iron sharpens iron!
Hi! Im actually the girl in the video! Most of my struggles have been being an immigrant from Mexico so most have been caused by me having to learn English relatively late!! I have found a median to balance everything i do and I see how to control my failures!! I love this input as I completely agree with you!! The video just doesn’t captivate EVERY aspect of my life :)
as someone who’s been through the college application process this past year this is so unrealistic and i’m so surprised that not many people are talking about it. A GPA of 3.8+ is the bare minimum for many of these schools and honestly even if someone has a 4.5 gpa and 1500 sat it’s not guaranteed and they’ll probably be rejected if they don’t have great extracurriculars.
Ngl I had a 4.6 just like the last girl and I applied to both the schools these people work for and I got rejected from both. It’s literally a lottery.
What I don’t like about our education system is that they make highschool so important especially the last years. Yet they make it as miserable as possible. So it’s hard for people to strive in it, for example I had like a 2.0 awful gpa I never did anything cause it wasn’t anything I truly enjoyed. I was actually a slacker cause of it and it made me go into such an insecure state cause I was always around people that had 4.0s I always belittled myself thinking I wasn’t capable of doing anything. But after i surprisingly graduated i got into an automotive school which I have such a huge passion for automotives and ever since I started in this school my lowest gpa I’ve had is a 3.2, i havent had this level of proudness and confidence ever before about my self and I feel like this country has really failed the highschool system and they need to add more specifics for peoples interests and keep them engaged.
The last girl is INSANE shes done so much and has achieved such great scores. I would be surprised if she doesn’t have multiple full ride offers to like top schools.
And this is why rich people stay rich and poor people stay poor. Comparing the application from a rich person who could afford tutoring, volunteering, extra activites vs someone who does not have the time because of work, family problems etc is unfair and classist.
she can do it, she will just need to work a bit harder than ussual because lawschools also care about the name of the university and grades in college.
@@axolotlhappy2340 Yea, for my sisters college she had to pay 50USD for an application, then pay 500 dollars to attend the obnoxiously selective school that she was ACCEPTED into.
@@LaSombraa well, it really depends on the school. a b at one highschool may be comparable to an a at another. some highschools in my area offer multi variable calc, getting a c in that class is a lot more impressive than getting an a in a trig class.
I’m a straight A student. Have some mental health issues. Got too much anxiety about college and standardized test like the ACT/SAT, and didn’t even apply anywhere for college. I chose to move out near my older sister (in San Diego) and go to the community college near her. I really hate the whole college system that banks your life on a single test, and essay. I’m happy to say I’ve maintained a 4.0 GPA during my first two years at the community college. I really like all the Professors, they actually want everyone to succeed and help people as much as they can. Unlike some “high end” colleges where professors brag about who will fail. Whole college industry just really gives me the ich.
I think overall a prestigious uni's name looks better on a resume, which is why despite the shitty circumstances, people still apply to prestigious colleges/unis.
To the girl who got rejected... Don't give up on yourself. If it makes anyone feel any better, I had a GPA of 1.4 during my junior year of high school LOL. I was also a super senior... I took off 8 years & worked instead. I got accepted into a tech college before transferring to my dream university (yeah... I still had that high school "dream" college after all those years even if I felt I was never going to get accepted). When I transferred to the university... I was told by a professor during my first semester that I wasn't meant for a University... IN FRONT OF CLASS when I got my first lab exam back. I literally walked out crying..... Here I am... about to graduate in the Spring 2023. You can achieve great things when you really want it that bad.
@@HouseMDaddict the last two years of high school and a big finals exam are used to determine ones final grade. But even then it doesn't really matter what your grade is as long as you pass. Except for medicine and some after very sought after degrees there will be plenty of universities that require no specific grade to study for a degree. Also Germany is much less focused on where you got your degree from.
Test taking is a horrible way of looking at it. Tests are just one way. But an admission of essays and grades paints your picture from a broader sense and looks at more than just a test score. Your activities, jobs, and aspects a test can’t encompass
i have submitted about 20 applications and i haven’t been rejected once and my gpa is 3.1 dont give up guys there will always be a college waiting for you
and i have failed english every year of my highschool career it’ll be alright don’t take the rejection too hard and just take it and chug on life will work out for you
I had a best friend who got a 4.93/4.97 and one of her math teachers said "only a 4.93? I expected a 5.0." When my best friend got into Harvard it was like the biggest slap in the face for that teacher. She's a fourth year now and about to graduate. I'm so proud of her :)
"I think I'm here to get - to have, uh, professors judge my... um -" *cuts off* LMAO the judges may not have clowned Koda but the editors did... I'm curious whether the students chose their own identifiers because he definitely didn't seem like a "slacker" to me
Um yes if thousands of kids are applying with similar stats then that’s what it comes down to. It’s just like a job if you both have the same qualifications but in the interview one is more of a fit to the department than the other then they’ll get the job.
Ain't no way the kid with the 3.46 GPA got into USC. I got rejected from USC and 6 out of the 8 UC schools I applied to as an in-state student with a 4.1 GPA, 4 AP classes, well-written essays, and 20 extracurriculars including 9 years of martial arts, musical theater, school newspaper, multiple paid internships, volunteering, and leadership positions.
Ok…I have to say something that might seem rude. The theater kid will not make it to law school. Period. She’s graduating with a gpa lower than 3.5. Community college will get her a job that hopefully helps her in life but I can guarantee that she could have done better if she tried to focus. It isn’t for everyone and I understand that but her goals are extremely unrealistic.
If you feel embarrassed or even jealousy from this video, just know that these people aren't you and that should should spend time on who you are. Jealousy is something that steals time and energy from you to which you deserve to use for yourself and those who you love.
Did you all notice the one person (vague as to not reveal any spoilers) who got rejected was not shown meeting the college application interviewers? They may have felt uncomfortable and were unwilling to meet them after being rejected .
As a teen who has a chronic illness…could not imagine having to do volunteer, sports, side hustles, extracurriculars, APs, great scores on standardized tests, and a high GPA. No wonder our youth has all time high mental health issues
For me in Australia, University admissions is just based on a score that is the accumulation of our 12th year, and if you meet the score for the course, you’re in. That’s it, no essay, no complicated procedure.
@@pranammm GAMSAT for postgraduate, UCAT for undergraduate and both require interviews which are absolutely gruelling (my sister's a med student, and let me tell you it was definitely not an easy process)
Similar thing here in Canada for most universities. Some of the top programs will require you to fill out an admission form but these are only the top few. Out of the 6 I applied to, I only had to fill out a form for one which was the most competitive CS program in the country so it made sense
As someone with a 2.45 gpa seeing the person with 2.30 gpa get rejected was kinda expected but hurt a lot cuz now I’m 100% sure I ain’t gonna get accepted to college lol Edit: thanks for the advice guys, really gave me hope
It’s not over just start at a community. You save money and you can transfer to one. People in California have done this and have gotten into uc Berkeley,UCLA, cal poly etc
if you’re not trying to go to med school grad school law school etc, then it doesn’t matter really what school you go to. what career are you interested in?
Glad I am in Switzerland, applying in university is so much easier for swiss, as they have to accept you no matter what as long as you have the diploma attesting you've finished high-school.
I loved this video!! It was awesome to see two different mindsets and approaches for the admissions. I love how she critiqued and offered advice where he tried to know them and include their experiences.
i loved this. I appreciate both of the admins not sugarcoating their feedback. Hopefully, these students will use some of their critiques to improve their applications and better their chances of getting into the colleges they want to get into.
Valedictorian is the only one here who should have been accepted. No way any of they others are getting into USC with those scores or grades or anything! Even if they applied undeclared or whatever is easiest!
I think the main thing that I found interesting; was how they're generally looking for people who take initiative on their own self-growth. Seeing who's self-reliant and who showcases their skills beyond the school's expectations on learning and taking challenges through the school's curriculum. What school you go to, doesn't really define who you are going to become. Whether you drop out, take a break, or get accepted into another school. What's more interesting to achieve, is how far you exceed your own expectations through your own challenges.
Have you ever been on a dating app? At first you meet a few exciting people that seem to click with you. But after you swipe through dozens or hundreds of different people's profiles you start treating them all very similarly and have much less patience for someone's flaws and are quick to point out mistakes that can have you reject them. College admissions is like that by multipled by a lot more.
They're giving false hope to the kids. They just don't want to hurt their little feelings and pride for the video. They wouldn't stand a chance in a real college admission.
i love how they judge every part of them and then go “just show who you are.” no, that’s not what they wanna see. they want you to show a curated version of yourself that you pretend is really you but isn’t. this video makes my skin crawl
Well and also if you show who you really are, the incoming judgement is really going to cut. At least the curated version is just a fantasy.
Also talk about your trauma. Never forget your sob story
Showing who you are works though. Adcoms wanna see a human being not a person who just checks off boxes and doesn’t pour their heart into what they do
@@jessicawilliams3849 LMAOO so true
For real. "show us who you are" wtf does that mean, how does that help me.
Can't imagine how nerve racking this must be to get your college application read in person.
Jubilee: "but these scarring moments make such great content!"
@@swimdude2011bw The kids agreed to do this lol relax.
Like a job application, maybe? Lol
@@swimdude2011bw not for kids making last minute edits on the essays for college admissions : (
They aren't actually rejecting/admitting them into the college. They are just saying what they would do if they received that application.
The main problem that I have the American college system is that they look for kids who’ve already accomplished greatness and found their place in the world. In reality, these are really unfair expectations for most kids who are generally only 17 to 18 and still being kids.
I have found that there is a problem where kids are trained to market themselves to colleges before they understand how they would like to function in the world we have built today. College is a business, we are the resources they decide to convert into workers based in how the CHILD markets themselves. It's predatory! Then the second we are legal adults, we are signing legally binding loans that don't seem that worth it 2, 3, 10 years later when you understand more.
That is very true American process is way too much in Canada we just put our grades and you get in based off that not community service this ain’t no job 😂
You’re being hyperbolic. There are so many colleges that accept students who have “okay” EC’s. But if you’re are applying to Harvard, the bar is going to be set high, and you can’t be mad at that. It’s a prestigious skool.
It is same with graduate school. For example you have to already be working in medical field in order to get accepted into medical school
THIS!
The “slacker” really doesn’t seem like much of a slacker 😂
Ikr modelling for vogue isnt slacking
Nah he just did a lil 😶🌫️😶🌫️ before
theater kid was more of a slacker ☠️
More of a laid-back kind of guy than a slacker.
I was going to say with a SAT score of 1220 and gpa of 3.46 isn’t exactly slacking😭
I hate that they went so hard on the first guy because he's an athlete, saying that a 3.5 GPA wasn't strong enough - but as soon as the other guy walked-in, they said a 3.46 was really strong and he had barely more than 100 pts on his SAT score.... really? This is crazy to me. You can't ask athlete to be both that much better with their grades AND in their sport. That's insane.
Athletes have harder pressures because we stop caring about school and have the idea of going pro which rarely happens
There are a large amount of athletes that are able to do that and even maintain higher gpas and scores.
The other guy also had much better extracurriculars and writing compared to the first guy.
maybe cuz it was first guy
maybe cuz it was first guy
I can't believe Americans have to pay for college AND have to spend 50+ hours a week on school, extra classes, sports, jobs and community service to get in... That's crazy.
There’s a reason the USA produces so much professional success
@@everestmaher1092 Other countries have many successful people too, but most of them are not that interested in the press etc as most successful Americans are and then of course the USA has a high popularity so maybe that's why it seems like the States have way more successful people than other countries.
Depends which colleges. UC and USC are VERY competitive and prestigious.
Thats not even guaranted to get accepted. Colleges are money hungry and only want to increase their reputation.
@@everestmaher1092 thats the biggest lie I've ever heard no wonder America is falling apart we keep telling lies to ourselves
I really loved both of the applicators. The lady was brutally honest & provided comments that would really help the students where as the guy really thought out of the box & took into account of their experiences and their potential growth.
Nice comment!
iu
Agreed!!! Just showing how important it is to have different perspectives.
And that’s in turn they are both great. Just having a board of different views such as these two people would be great for diversity. Having too much of one of each views would ruin
Didn't like neither of em. Just reminds me how corrupted the system is that they make people like this
Should do this with older generations. like someone 40+ gets their application reviewed to see if they would still get into the school they went to. could also see if the standards are higher/lower now if they get rejected/accepted/waitlisted
The standards get higher as each year goes by. Since everyone's trying to reach the top, trying to reach the top and having all these accomplishments then becomes the new normal/average. The same is happening in other areas like the olympics, job requirments, etc where the bar for average keeps geting raised.
Also foreign people would be really interesting
I would watch that religiously
oh that's a GREAT idea. especially because so many parents underestimate the work their kids have to do
THIS THIS THIS
This is unrealistic. USC would never take these people with how selective it is these days; a 1500+ sat and 3.8+ GPA is the absolute bare minimum.
as a USC grad I agree. I didnt get in my first time then basically had to get almost all A's to get in after being deferred
Thank you, someone had to say that.
I got into usc but my sat was a 1290 and my GPA was a 3.9
I had the exact same thought!
Yep. USC is extremely selective. You'll have to be brown to have a chance of getting accepted for such low numbers.
i knew people with 4.4s, multiple varsity sports, 9-10 ap classes, leadership positions, volunteering, and essays that were well written and showed passion. they were rejected from ucs and definitely usc. our valedictorians got rejected from usc and most of the ucs. this video doesn’t represent the real outcomes of college admissions
GPA is subjective to the school. Sports normally don't matter to colleges. Many times there are more reasons than "but they had perfect stats" that get you rejected. The essay is subjective per admission reader.
Facts. I think this video is cap. You need at least a 4.0 to get into USC
It's impossible to truly represent all the real outcomes, bc it's way too nuanced to fit in a video like this.
how did you valedictorians not even get into ivy leagues that doesn't make any sense how were they the top of the class then lol
exactly what i was thinking
wow that’s crazy!!! the girl with the low gpa gets rejected, the girl with the high gpa and amazing ecs gets accepted, and the two mediocre ppl get waitlisted. would’ve never guessed, thank you jubilee for this profound study
calling them mediocre is beyond bitchy you seem insufferable 😭
Yeah kinda think they could've got better examples of students who are in between obvious placements. With a valedictorian, it's like obviously she's going to get accepted, what's even the point of showing it.
Mmm I don't think that was the point they were trying to convey. They wanted to illustrate the thought process fam.
cause that’s how it really is. what did u want to see? the opposite? some plot twist? gpa is a thing for a reason.
Well, it's not exactly a study at all and they didn't claim it to be one. It's entertainment.
I think one of the main problems I have with the college application system is that they make students feel like they have to go above and beyond in their extracurriculars. That barely gives kids enough time to enjoy their lives. Compared to the UK application and acceptance process, ours seems like too much work.
Yeah it looks like they're looking for people who already accomplished greatness and I don't think that's a realistic expectation for students.
@@ellingtonfeint13 they want exemplary students, its to have the best image and be craved by everybody
The reason students have to go above and beyond is because others do. So many students are applying to college nowadays relative to the amount of college acceptances. So the curve is full of students doing extra just to get ahead of the others.
Yea and extracurriculars are expensive, so I'm sure there are a lot of bright kids that don't have the resources or ability to do extracurricular activities.
Exactly. They want to rob kids of their childhoods in the name of "higher education"? Really?
The American college application process seems so exhausting.
Ikr
Uk is so much simpler
how does it work in the uk?
In India, you just give a standardized test and et voila, you are selected according to your score. None of these type of shits are carried out. Interview? Essay writing? What are we 5?
In South Africa a
It's based solely on your Final scores no entrance exams nothing no essays
The black guy is too powerful, he sees potential in everybody and is able to bring the best out of each one in an encouraging way
Only because he’s on camera in front of a lot of people. USC doesn’t have a 16% acceptance rate because they “see potential.”
@@privacyplease1556 d
And that lady was too negative and tough. She should rejoice and appreciate what was brought to her not nit pick for more
Bruh wake up 💀
You don’t understand how selective schools are these days
Truly insane that American kids have to go through all these hoops just for the opportunity to get hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt.
@Turtle Saying that people that suffer from student debt is a result of bad financial decisions is… yikes
@Turtle it's more so for having rich parents. Sorry but not everybody has that luxury 🤷🏽♂️
@Turtle yikes. Pretty sure I didn’t make bad financial decisions. I wanted to be a teacher and you have to have a degree for that. I worked 3 jobs during college and still have debt. I didn’t have any financial support from family and got as many scholarships as I could. I wouldn’t state that taking out student loans is a bad financial decision if you know what you’re going to college for.
@Turtle I bet your parents pay
@Turtle how did you pull that off? did u start at a CC, get scholarships, work part time, etc? I'm curious because I would eventually like to go to school with no debt
As a college counselor, my response is: wuuuttt? This is not realistic and gives students a false idea of how the process works. I was excited to see this video but then bummed by how it turned out. This had so much potential!
Who would have gotten in and rejected in the video?
@@Ana-ou9bp that’s the thing, it depends on so many more factors than what was discussed in the video.
@@Ana-ou9bp no one lmao, 3.5 GPA and 1220 SAT and accepted? LMAO thats straight cap
Could you name some specifics on why it was flaud?
@@finitecurve the main issue is that they didn’t actually take the typical factors into account. They only discussed the high level markers (GPA, test score, essay) without taking into account parent background, location (like being in-state or OOS), all the short answers, letters of recommendation, what actual colleges they’re pretending to read for, etc.
Also, one of the reps says a 3.5 is a strong GPA and I believe that rep was for USC? That would definitely be a lower GPA for USC, and you can find that on their common data set. About 5% of who USC accepted last year had below a 3.5.
I hope this is helpful
Y’all should do this episode with premed students and med school admissions 💀
💀
why though?
@@mcmaradelie2729 why not
I’m a medical student and I’m still terrified I’m gonna get rejected lmaooo my anxiety would be through the roof
@@tailorforeman7082 for residency?
I kinda wish we were able to receive an audio recording of some sort from applicators to the places we applied too just to get an idea why we were accepted, waitlisted, or rejected. Cause it could be a huge bunch of lessons to learn from there.
You’re actually legally obligated (in the US) to request a college to tell u why you got in (if that makes sense)!!
I actually go to USC and when I asked for my admissions profile, I was told they got rid of it before the next application cycle began- so I only had maybe 4 months (from acceptance to the cycle opening in the fall) to actually request it- which how would I have known that?
@@bvy21What’s the difference between an admissions profile and the application you submitted ?
@@Nobody-tj9jo it's my application, but w/ notes from my admissions counselor telling me why i was accepted
I would cry if I were those students
Lol!! I just said the same thing
I'm just curious, why are people nervous about doing this,?
@@k4rim799 bc it is an important topic regarding your future
@@wildeskompositum9556 A perfect example of what I'm talking about. Someone with a more robust mentality would see such a thing as "Alright, I lost. How do I patch up the holes in my file?"
But people like you don't react like that, as evidenced by your comment.
@@FerretCuddles I have serious self confidence issues. Particularly about my behaviour as a human being. I avoid social confrontation.
But I love work reviews and things like this. I love knowing exactly what I can improve on, and what changes I need to make to be perceived more positively .
People need to realize these aren’t personal attacks, these are people giving genuine feedback on the downfalls they see .
I feel the girl with a 2.8. Sometimes you just need a chance. In high school, I had the same GPA, and strived to do better in college and ended with a 3.9 and am now applying to Ph.D. programs, you can seriously do anything you set your mind to!
Very true
When you're at high school, you're still a kid.
Some people go through some of the worst times of their lives during those 3 years, and when you're already going through so much, grades just don't matter anymore. It sucks knowing you simply would never ever get accepted into some universities due to your f*cked up mental health as a kid and you'll have to pay the price of that for a long time in your adult life if not the rest of your life.
What was your undergrad major and what field of study are you doing your PhD in?
This gave me hope 🥺🥺
This. Same for me. The difference was having something I actually cared about.
as long as you are hard working, you'll get to where you want. I have a cousin, who was homeschooled in the countryside. She went to community college, and then transferred to an average university after two years, and then got accepted to architect school. Now she works with companies like Apple and Space X.
Maybe they should have had admissions officers ranking to different standards, like one ivy league, one T-50, one T-100? Or been clear about what kind of college's standards they are ranking with? It's just weird to not have any context for what "accepted" or "rejected" means
Edit: missed that they did write the schools that the admissions officers are ranking for, but even among the UC system for example acceptance rates are radically different... UCLA and UCR for instance. Would be nice to have more variety I think?
I wish they had more variety but in the beginning of the video it says Sylvia is from UC and Corey is from USC so they are ranking to those California schools standards.
@@참새-c1w Yeah I was gonna say... his rankings seemed VERY lenient for USC haha
Totally agree. This was a miss in so many ways.
@@cinnamonbyun I graduated USC but got rejected my first time, then deferred my transfer app and eventually got in. I wish i had the Corey admissions guy my first time lmaoooo.
I agree, it would be nice to see them rank from an Ivy League standpoint and then a less prestigious school
"She has an excellent GPA, so she's an excellent student" everyone would like to have a word.
"education" system in one sentence
an excellent GPA does mean an excellent student,
a poor GPA does not mean a poor student, however.
I think the latter is what you were probably thinking, as if the former implies the opposite.
@@catnap7579 No, I meant exactly what I said. I'll even expound for you: An excellent GPA does NOT mean an excellent student, as being an excellent student involves criteria that are beyond grades. It's why community service, experience, and attitude/aptitude are measured and evaluated in essays. GPA does not measure those criteria, therefore an excellent GPA does not mean you have an excellent student; Sincerely, An Adult.
@@jonahsahn Cap, sincerely, an adult.
GPA correlates heavily with college aptitude
Am I the only one who felt really bad for the theatre girl? Keep shining sis, you’ll find your niche be it school or pursuing acting. Life’s just starting!
I mean she got rejected just like many others, she didn't put in as much dedication as a lot of other applicants. She still seems to have her next 10 ish years planned out though, what is there to feel bad about?
@@sunstormclash3510 you are very odd.
@@anaya6029 they very much are!
@@anaya6029 there's always another twinkie over the rainbow
This is so triggering. What does my community service or side hustle or personality have to do with me actually succeeding in college.
The whole admissions process is a problem
I mean, it shows that you're committed to doing things. That's something.
@Pedro Fernandes yo these are high schoolers part of the gig is not being committed to anything
The whole college thing is a scam
@Pedro Fernandes Except the students in this video are more than likely going to have to pay the institution to go to their school. So taxpayers money isn't an excuse.
It is to make them look better.
The Jock's heart is SO healthy that beat is more stable than my daily emotional state
He knows how to handle pressure from playing sports.
how does a steady heart rate mean healthy? that just means he isn't as affected by what they're saying lol
@@keys2467 lower resting heart rate means high cardiovascular fitness. Use google before u comment slow ah😭
@@keys2467yes, a steady heart means that you’re healthy lol not being upset by constructive criticism means that you’re self-assured and mentally secured, how is that not healthy
@@FranciscoRamirez-ed6qv lmao mines is a 52-57 bpm. I think that people with above 80 would be considered unhealthy
I loved how both college administrators judge so differently yet so similarly. Their judgement comes from two different places but are both so unique, so needed! This will definitely be a great series! I wish I had this before starting college lol
To clarify for people who are not from the US, this high of standards are really only expected for very prestigious colleges, you can easily get into regular colleges as long as you don’t have horrible grades (and in my state we don’t even need test scores or essays they are only optional)
bro what state you in i think i might need to move states
@jayemixes lmaoo arizona
some high schools feed directly into community colleges. it's really quite easy to get into *a* college, but getting into a prestigious one (ivy league, etc) definitely isn't for the weak of heart.
@@KarateLauren The state I'm in provides 2 years of community college for free if you go directly after high school. it saves so much and acceptance rates as a transfer are higher than straight out of high school, because the 4 years university doesn't have to guess about how you will perform in higher education classes. They already see through your gpa and course rigor.
@@gettingintocollege8857 what state do you live in ?
I wish collegees were more like this, because maybe less kids in America (including me) worked extra hard for years to be so disappointed and discouraged just being told no and that your not enough. Knowing that someone at some point saw that you were.
I have ADHD and NVLD so i know how you feel. I was fortunate to be able to go to a decent undergrad and graduate institution. I feel fortunate the the US application system worked for me, but I was limited to where i could apply because even though i had a 3.6 high school, my classmates mostly had 4.0 grades. I also took only 1 AP class at my high school because most were too hard for me because AP classes at my high school were a lot more challenging than the average high school's classes
Boy if you don’t stop looking down on yourself and just go learn whatever is required of you to operate efficiently in what you desire. Stop looking for a participation trophy.
You could quite literally write abt that in your essay
@@ightmocha7735 What feeling unwanted by a society’s that connects the wrong dots but claims to embrace disabled people?
@@mrmakeshft Ngl. I have no idea what u just said, sorry
Whoever the creative team is, y’all are targeting the correct crowd during college admissions season! BRAVO😭
The US application system is so bad, I think one of the main problems is that you’re applying just to a college rather than a subject. In the UK we can focus on showing our achievements and interest in the subject we wish to pursue further at degree level rather than having to flex a million extracurricular activities that add absolutely nothing to you as a student in a particular field.
It depends for the US tho. Personally, I’m applying to a specific subject in the US for a specific college of a subject. This allows me to focus more on that area of focus and pursue internships, classes, and extra curricular related to it. That way, i’m focused on that subject and not doing every club under the sun.
@Lockdown Banter I think it’s a double edged sword, if this approach was taken here I would personally be struggling a lot more. The system would force me to gain a lower quality of further education than that provided by the universities Im looking to attend in the UK. But I see how for some a more diversified approach would be beneficial. I am applying for mechanical engineering so being able to focus on maths, Physics and product design for the last two years of my secondary education has been really enjoyable.
tea. typical scenario: i think it's unfair for some sports person to be valued higher than a nerd who's into what they're studying just because the sports person is doing "extracurricular stuff" and they're allegedly a "well-rounded person".
@Lockdown Banter it really depends to a certain extent , for example if someone likes math and it has always been their passion , I don't see how Japanese history or drama can be beneficial to them , sure it's fun but colleges shouldn't focus too much on extracurricular activities if the applicant already have in mind what they wanna do in life .
@@laincoubert7236 yeah totally agree
The first guy is definitely going to be successful🖤
Well spoken, respectful & a hard worker.
it’s really hard to sit back and watch this video. there are so many exhaustive measures to the college application process. i hope this doesn’t make any of these kids feel bad or not enough.
Why am nervous for them I’m literally in college I don’t have to worry
Same and i literally graduated
Enjoy paying debt 😂 just playing I’m going next year
I graduated USC in 2020 and I was still nervous for them. I'm glad Corey the USC admissions guy was very nice
it’s called empathy
PTSD we all went through this exhausting process
Wow. Looks like high school applicants REALLY have to do even more than I remember.
A lot of these applicants are very accomplished.
“He does have time he’s only a junior” -when I tell you I literally did not have a single day to myself as a junior from between my ap classes, SAT prep, hw, studying for tests, studying for redos, and on top of that a part time job that often was more like a full time job- it is so sickening how people view literal kids now and especially the American school system that asks so much from us and that was just my schedule last year as a junior I didn’t even do sports or extracurriculars for that matter and I have friends who did that actually had no time to just relax and not worry abt anything for a solid few hours
Can you do this with art school applications? A portfolio critique would be more entertaining
Idk if someone with a 3.4 gpa is a slacker I thought he'd have like a 2.0 or lower
I feel like they called him that because of the way he dressed and that he was creative.
I have 2.45 and I WORK insanely hard. To see a “slacker” with a 3.4 gpa hurts lol, really makes u feel stuck
He probably just isn't a part of a specific social clique so they just made that up to call him something lmao
Some of the titles they gave didn't make much sense
Slackers give no effort, doesn't mean we're not smart
They say that it’s difficult to write a college application. It varies per country, and the cases per student technically aren’t the same. At least these people are giving constructive feedback to them. It’s something that’s helpful to them in many ways.
lol you don‘t even have to write one in a lot of countries
theres no essay or test where im from lol. applying is just sending in your information and grades
@@avr7120 exactly
@@avr7120 Omg, I envy you sm
@@avr7120 same lol I’m so glad I’m not American. On the other hand, we get extremely challenging tests and exams which makes it a lot harder to pass 😟
I'm a freshman at a community college so I didn't have to worry about this, thankfully. I hope these people get into the colleges they like!
Community college are the best. Same degree less expensive
@@BanellaRg don’t community colleges only offer an associate degree?
@@kei8679 yeah they do but it’s still much cheaper because you transfer to a full university so you can receive the degree. i’m a neuroscience major and i go to a community college so i can transfer to a full university for their neurosci program
@@manictothecore yeah I’m aware. I’m planning on doing the same thing and become a neuropsychologist !!
For the West Coast students out there I want to share a useful bit of semi-unrelated information. There is a program called Western Undergraduate Exchange that makes it so the 13 Western most states (Arizona, Washington, Oregon, New Mexico, Nevada, Utah, Wyoming, etc.) plus Alaska and Hawaii allow students that live in one of the states to attend a college in another state while paying close to in-state tuition costs.
As an example if I am in California and want to attend University of Nevada, Las Vegas if I apply regularly the cost for a non-resident is $23,961 and the resident costs are $7,470. So a student applying from out of state through the WUE program pays $11,205 (7,470 x 1.5). So let me just say you save a lot. Of course this applies to certain campuses and majors.
My heart rate would simply not handle the critism
i would take this video with a grain of salt as getting into college is like a lottery. even if you are qualified, they only have so many spots and often will look for certain hobbies to fill in class gaps (they need a cellist, lax player, etc). so when looking at applicants as a whole, the applicants here who were accepted may have been rejected depending on class need.
He was halfway with the rejection thing. Beyond smiling about it, you can take it as an opportunity to learn something
This is why you should always go to a community college first and then transfer to a university because it makes your university journey less expensive and you're more likely to get accepted into the university you apply for since colleges can see you're almost done anyways.
exactlyyyyy
No fr. I started at community college, transferred, and now I'm about to graduate from UC Davis in the spring with 0 debt. People hate on CC but spend tens of thousands of dollars on a university straight out of high school when they have no idea what they even what to do.
@@requena008 love to hear that!! Congrats
I agree. The transfer applications also don't require you to submit your ACT or SAT scores when you transfer. All the transfer applications I completed said ACT or SAT scores were optional to include in the application. I'm not proud of those scores, so I did not list them.
@@jeneebennett1047I mean first year applicants don’t have to submit sat or acts
Y’all should do this but with job interviews
Watching this as someone who’s not from the US is really shocking and sad to see how these kids are given so many expectations as if they were adults and how not everyone is given the same chances to have a career… Honestly, they education system in the US sucks!!
In most countries does everyone really have the same chance to have a career? Anyways this video is not reality. In elite colleges yes the acceptance rate is very low. But getting into college overall is pretty easy. There are public universities that are easy to to get into (In California there is the Cal State universities if you can't get into the UCs) and community college which will take everyone. There are many private colleges out there that are hurting for applicants. There are literally thousands of colleges in the US, these admission officers are from some of the top ones so not really giving the whole picture.
@@squiggs1002 cal state has impaction scores so I would not say it is easy to get into competitive majors in CSUs at all.
@@shawnthomas6492 lol ok. The point of the comment the US is not a difficult country to go to college in at all. Even in competitive majors you can go to junior college and transfer to CSU or UC if you have decent grades. And if you don't- well not everyone is cut out to be a CS or engineering major if they can't handle the prereqs at a JC. At my regular public high school everyone who wanted to go to college did so and those that didn't chose not to, not because they couldn't get in somewhere. In other countries only the top high school students can get into college and you are stuck unless you have rich parents to send them to the US or other Western country for college.
This video just shows how messed up the college system is, and as a high schooler trying to go to college, this video barely scratches the surface of the amount of stress and other things that colleges put you through just to have a chance to have your application even read
Then again you can always go to a community college and then transfer to a university. A lot easier and a lot cheaper.
Personally I had 1550 SAT, and a 3.94 GPA with 8 AP Classes, 6 Community advanced college courses (4.0 GPA), trilingual subject SAT score max, essays were great. 2 Sports (Swim and Football), 200 hours community service (teaching kids to code), Summer CS internship, and much more. I got rejected from most UC's and USC ;(. Currently majoring at Cal Poly Slo for CS. ;(((
cuz this video was the most inaccurate thing ever
Yep. Non-legacy applicants should be outrageously smart students with national-level accomplishments. High SAT score, GPA, and class rank mean little as most valedictorians/salutatorians across the country will find out.
omg im dead
maybe because you can't spell "sports"
Wow... compared to here in Australia we just receive a rank out of 99.95, top universities ask for 99 as a cut off which of course is extremely difficult. But there are many universities that supply support to students that attend unrepresented schools that bump up their atar (rank) and also receive special benefits. For example I did well in psychology this year so I was accepted early into a uni through a program, which also lowered the selection rank and already considers me for an honours degree. We don't need to write essays or anything in Australia in order to apply. America seems very difficult
I don’t get why they’re wearing headphones to hear them when they’re in the same room?
To keep the audio clean and even so they don't ask "What did you say?"
To make them less nervous i guess
So they don’t hear the producers
as a senior rn, the things i would do for this
same! :)
Dont sweat it go to a community college
Sameeee
Where’d you end up going to
applying to college especially the ones that require a billion essays is so draining i’ve been dying from stress lately
That last girl needs to be challenged. She's clearly a strong worker and has taken advantage of every opportunity given to her. I would have asked "Have you ever failed at something you put your full mind and effort into?" If she can't come up with something then she's one bad day away from a nervous breakdown. Seen this happen way too often in candidates. Brighter students need harder tests! Iron sharpens iron!
Hi! Im actually the girl in the video! Most of my struggles have been being an immigrant from Mexico so most have been caused by me having to learn English relatively late!! I have found a median to balance everything i do and I see how to control my failures!! I love this input as I completely agree with you!! The video just doesn’t captivate EVERY aspect of my life :)
@@Ana-ou9bp respect++ . Also, you are dead gorgeous !!
@@dr_davinci read the room...
@@seemebloomingj5978 can't make myself not appreciate someone :P
I wish they tailored it more to the colleges they are interested in going to. Interesting concept though for a video.
as someone who’s been through the college application process this past year this is so unrealistic and i’m so surprised that not many people are talking about it. A GPA of 3.8+ is the bare minimum for many of these schools and honestly even if someone has a 4.5 gpa and 1500 sat it’s not guaranteed and they’ll probably be rejected if they don’t have great extracurriculars.
Rejection isnt an attack on you but a reflection of their preferences
Ngl I had a 4.6 just like the last girl and I applied to both the schools these people work for and I got rejected from both. It’s literally a lottery.
what schools do they work for?
@@smxooch the UC system and USC
it’s more than gpa, what were ur extracurriculars? did you work in hs? sports? what classes did you take? it’s a lot more than just that
I find it so wild how people need to somehow prove themselves worthy of the privilege to educate themselves.
What I don’t like about our education system is that they make highschool so important especially the last years. Yet they make it as miserable as possible. So it’s hard for people to strive in it, for example I had like a 2.0 awful gpa I never did anything cause it wasn’t anything I truly enjoyed. I was actually a slacker cause of it and it made me go into such an insecure state cause I was always around people that had 4.0s I always belittled myself thinking I wasn’t capable of doing anything. But after i surprisingly graduated i got into an automotive school which I have such a huge passion for automotives and ever since I started in this school my lowest gpa I’ve had is a 3.2, i havent had this level of proudness and confidence ever before about my self and I feel like this country has really failed the highschool system and they need to add more specifics for peoples interests and keep them engaged.
this is an amazing opportunity they got
Agreed
The last girl is INSANE shes done so much and has achieved such great scores. I would be surprised if she doesn’t have multiple full ride offers to like top schools.
She got into Harvard ❤
And this is why rich people stay rich and poor people stay poor. Comparing the application from a rich person who could afford tutoring, volunteering, extra activites vs someone who does not have the time because of work, family problems etc is unfair and classist.
Just go to community college while all these airheads go into copius amounts of debt for just about the same education.
to the theater kid -- you got this, you got a really solid plan and you're gonna be an amazing lawyer i believe in u!!!!
she can do it, she will just need to work a bit harder than ussual because lawschools also care about the name of the university and grades in college.
Let's not forgot how much you have to pay to apply in the USA. It's a scam
you have to pay to APPLY?? what?
@@axolotlhappy2340 yeah there’s lots of colleges that has an application fee that $50, $75 and up
@@axolotlhappy2340 plus you have to pay to have your official SAT / GRE scores sent to the universities you're applying to... it's a huge money scam !
@@axolotlhappy2340 Yea, for my sisters college she had to pay 50USD for an application, then pay 500 dollars to attend the obnoxiously selective school that she was ACCEPTED into.
In Canada you pay for applying too. I had to pay $100 for each uni program
11 months later and "The Valedictorian" girl is attending Harvard!
as long as it's accepted, none of the judging matter. only the result matters.
lesson: GPA matters most
GPA and ACT/SAT
No, essay matters the most. Anyone can get a 4.0, but every essay is different.
@@LaSombraa well, it really depends on the school. a b at one highschool may be comparable to an a at another. some highschools in my area offer multi variable calc, getting a c in that class is a lot more impressive than getting an a in a trig class.
As someone who is currently in undergrad, I'm so glad that I never have to apply to college ever again
As a senior going through that this year I can’t imagine how nerve racking it is for it to be read in person
I’m a straight A student. Have some mental health issues. Got too much anxiety about college and standardized test like the ACT/SAT, and didn’t even apply anywhere for college. I chose to move out near my older sister (in San Diego) and go to the community college near her. I really hate the whole college system that banks your life on a single test, and essay. I’m happy to say I’ve maintained a 4.0 GPA during my first two years at the community college. I really like all the Professors, they actually want everyone to succeed and help people as much as they can. Unlike some “high end” colleges where professors brag about who will fail. Whole college industry just really gives me the ich.
I think overall a prestigious uni's name looks better on a resume, which is why despite the shitty circumstances, people still apply to prestigious colleges/unis.
It’s not a single test or essay…you can take the SAT/ACT as many times as you need and you can even compile your best score per section.
room for improvement….that’s why we want to go to college….
To the girl who got rejected... Don't give up on yourself.
If it makes anyone feel any better, I had a GPA of 1.4 during my junior year of high school LOL. I was also a super senior... I took off 8 years & worked instead. I got accepted into a tech college before transferring to my dream university (yeah... I still had that high school "dream" college after all those years even if I felt I was never going to get accepted). When I transferred to the university... I was told by a professor during my first semester that I wasn't meant for a University... IN FRONT OF CLASS when I got my first lab exam back. I literally walked out crying.....
Here I am... about to graduate in the Spring 2023. You can achieve great things when you really want it that bad.
Skill issue tbh
I definetly prefer the german way of getting accepted just based on ones finals grade.
fr
It also has problems, but it is definitely better than this degrading sh*t.
As in finals in classes from all of high school or your final senior grades? Like what if you're a horrible test taker?
@@HouseMDaddict the last two years of high school and a big finals exam are used to determine ones final grade.
But even then it doesn't really matter what your grade is as long as you pass.
Except for medicine and some after very sought after degrees there will be plenty of universities that require no specific grade to study for a degree.
Also Germany is much less focused on where you got your degree from.
Test taking is a horrible way of looking at it. Tests are just one way. But an admission of essays and grades paints your picture from a broader sense and looks at more than just a test score. Your activities, jobs, and aspects a test can’t encompass
i have submitted about 20 applications and i haven’t been rejected once and my gpa is 3.1 dont give up guys there will always be a college waiting for you
and i have failed english every year of my highschool career it’ll be alright don’t take the rejection too hard and just take it and chug on life will work out for you
girl boss
Thank you sm for sharing this 💗
what schools did you apply to?
I had a best friend who got a 4.93/4.97 and one of her math teachers said "only a 4.93? I expected a 5.0." When my best friend got into Harvard it was like the biggest slap in the face for that teacher. She's a fourth year now and about to graduate. I'm so proud of her :)
If masterchef judges judged college applications
aww the guy admissions officer was so sweet.
I assure you they are not this forgiving, they will reject all of them but #4
"I think I'm here to get - to have, uh, professors judge my... um -" *cuts off* LMAO the judges may not have clowned Koda but the editors did... I'm curious whether the students chose their own identifiers because he definitely didn't seem like a "slacker" to me
"he's very likable".. is that the basis they use to accept or reject students??
Honestly, yeah, people forget how much fit matters
Um yes if thousands of kids are applying with similar stats then that’s what it comes down to. It’s just like a job if you both have the same qualifications but in the interview one is more of a fit to the department than the other then they’ll get the job.
Ain’t nobody making it into that lady’s college
Ain't no way the kid with the 3.46 GPA got into USC. I got rejected from USC and 6 out of the 8 UC schools I applied to as an in-state student with a 4.1 GPA, 4 AP classes, well-written essays, and 20 extracurriculars including 9 years of martial arts, musical theater, school newspaper, multiple paid internships, volunteering, and leadership positions.
What major did u apply for
psychology
this just shows how application really can be a game of luck! two different people have two different perspectives on one person! it’s interesting
Ok…I have to say something that might seem rude. The theater kid will not make it to law school. Period. She’s graduating with a gpa lower than 3.5. Community college will get her a job that hopefully helps her in life but I can guarantee that she could have done better if she tried to focus. It isn’t for everyone and I understand that but her goals are extremely unrealistic.
There ain't no way you are getting into USC with a 3.5 GPA nowadays.
If you feel embarrassed or even jealousy from this video, just know that these people aren't you and that should should spend time on who you are. Jealousy is something that steals time and energy from you to which you deserve to use for yourself and those who you love.
Thank you. Needed this especially since I’m taking the SAT in a few days for the first time.
Did you all notice the one person (vague as to not reveal any spoilers) who got rejected was not shown meeting the college application interviewers? They may have felt uncomfortable and were unwilling to meet them after being rejected .
By the way guys, for anyone who was curious the girl in part 4 went to Harvard after this
As a teen who has a chronic illness…could not imagine having to do volunteer, sports, side hustles, extracurriculars, APs, great scores on standardized tests, and a high GPA. No wonder our youth has all time high mental health issues
Please the last girl got into Harvard, Berkeley, Yale, etc
For me in Australia, University admissions is just based on a score that is the accumulation of our 12th year, and if you meet the score for the course, you’re in. That’s it, no essay, no complicated procedure.
Unless you do medicine, dentistry, law or a performing arts course :) But yeah, it's pretty straight-forward for us (thank goodness!).
@@lbell9695 its still similar for medicine, you also need to reach an set gamsat score alongside the ATAR requirement.
@@pranammm GAMSAT for postgraduate, UCAT for undergraduate and both require interviews which are absolutely gruelling (my sister's a med student, and let me tell you it was definitely not an easy process)
Similar thing here in Canada for most universities. Some of the top programs will require you to fill out an admission form but these are only the top few.
Out of the 6 I applied to, I only had to fill out a form for one which was the most competitive CS program in the country so it made sense
As someone with a 2.45 gpa seeing the person with 2.30 gpa get rejected was kinda expected but hurt a lot cuz now I’m 100% sure I ain’t gonna get accepted to college lol
Edit: thanks for the advice guys, really gave me hope
You can start off at a community college get your stats up then transfer it’s not over
It’s not over just start at a community. You save money and you can transfer to one. People in California have done this and have gotten into uc Berkeley,UCLA, cal poly etc
You don't need to get into a fancy school, go to a school with less high requirements or community college.
if you’re not trying to go to med school grad school law school etc, then it doesn’t matter really what school you go to. what career are you interested in?
how u got half my gpa 🤣gigadumbotron
Very interesting idea. Nice contrast between the two assessors; in particular, I thought the lady gave really concrete feedback.
Glad I am in Switzerland, applying in university is so much easier for swiss, as they have to accept you no matter what as long as you have the diploma attesting you've finished high-school.
im a senior in hs and this video did NOT help my anxiousness
If I had to seat through the people who looked at my application I would sink
I loved this video!! It was awesome to see two different mindsets and approaches for the admissions. I love how she critiqued and offered advice where he tried to know them and include their experiences.
i loved this. I appreciate both of the admins not sugarcoating their feedback. Hopefully, these students will use some of their critiques to improve their applications and better their chances of getting into the colleges they want to get into.
Valedictorian is the only one here who should have been accepted. No way any of they others are getting into USC with those scores or grades or anything! Even if they applied undeclared or whatever is easiest!
He was lying because he was on camera and wanted to be nice lol. A 3.5 is not getting into USC without being legacy
@@privacyplease1556 even the valedictorian, a 1410 sat score with a 4.6 gpa indicates that she goes to a really easy highschool
@@wandewboino, someone people are bad test takers because they take too much time bubbling in perfectly like me😂
I think the main thing that I found interesting; was how they're generally looking for people who take initiative on their own self-growth. Seeing who's self-reliant and who showcases their skills beyond the school's expectations on learning and taking challenges through the school's curriculum. What school you go to, doesn't really define who you are going to become. Whether you drop out, take a break, or get accepted into another school. What's more interesting to achieve, is how far you exceed your own expectations through your own challenges.
How can college admissions sleep in peace knowing they have the most hated job
Have you ever been on a dating app? At first you meet a few exciting people that seem to click with you. But after you swipe through dozens or hundreds of different people's profiles you start treating them all very similarly and have much less patience for someone's flaws and are quick to point out mistakes that can have you reject them. College admissions is like that by multipled by a lot more.
They're giving false hope to the kids. They just don't want to hurt their little feelings and pride for the video. They wouldn't stand a chance in a real college admission.
for easy state schools, definitely possible tbh. idk what school they're admissions officers for though
nvm I saw the 2.3 omg wtf
@@Lalalalala98872 one of them are an admission officer for usc 😐
@@Lalalalala98872 sadly usc is not an easy state school
Not really