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anarchy linux is arch with a super easy installer. and you can get non-free drivers for your GPU if you want. maybe check the iso out if you got 10 minutes in a vm. :)
@@mrwhipple3759 That's the entire point of Linux. Use what you like, don't judge anybody else for using something else. At the end of the day, its free and open-source software. ;)
I love EndeavourOS with KDE Plasma! Been on it from day one (Antergos before it), and have lost all interest in distro hopping once I started with Antergos (Sort of Endeavour's predecessor). I couldn't be any happier with a distro. I tried Manjaro before I found Antergos, and it was way too bloated and buggy for my taste. Endeavour has been taking in lots of Manjaro refugees in the last few years! OK, so the Brittish English "let's be french" spelling is weird! (
@@GeoNeilUK I do think, and I meant it is weird to me being from the US, and not used to British spellings, that's all. It's not just Europe because it's near by, but in most of the world, including South America where English is taught, they teach British, not US English. It's my freaking last name!
I have been using Manjaro for about 4 months now (thanks to you ) ... And it's turned out to be my daily driver for both my personal and work tesks. I really appreciate all the tricks and tips you roll out about this OS because I have been a casual Linux user and this the first I am using it for everything
Same here. Flirted with Linux when I was a kid and you could order physical Ubuntu CDs shipped to your physical mailbox (damn, it was ages ago 8.04 and 8.10), but the actual time I switched to daily driver Linux is Manjaro sometime summer 2018, and when I advice my friends to try Linux, this would be in top 3 "just works" distros form me. The other one I like are ArcoLinux and now I daily drive Garuda KDE edition (the most heavily styled and bloated one, yes). Funny thing that all of those are arch based, have good communities and ship with nice tweaks and various GUI tools for making easy some regular system maintainance tricks and common fixes
I've been on Ubuntu or an Ubuntu based distro since 8.04 i finally switch to Endeavor OS a couple of weeks ago. I also migrated from mostly useing xfce to the exclusively useing kde. Wow best decision ever. The yay command is my favorite thing ever. Can't believe I waited this long to switch ."life is good"
I like endeavour os more. It's more stable.. after every big update manjaro would fu*ked up my system. But with endeavour I have never faced that issues.also eos has a great community
I wonder if Manjaro's testing or unstable branches might work better and be closer to vanilla Arch? I've also had this issue where an update borked my sound or something for no apparent reason. In any case EOS seems to stay out of the way when it comes to updates and doesn't hold things back. I guess Manjaro does this to make sure nothing breaks in their customized desktop versions?
well because AUR packages require you to have the lastest dependencies while manjaro holding it back, so eventually your system will break at some point
I have not tried EOS but I've been using Manjaro since I switched from windows close to 2 years ago. I have not found it to have any problems at all. It runs on all my systems very smoothly. I like the idea of trying out other flavors of Arch but then I always come back to why? Manjaro ticks off all the boxes for me.
@@tylersrevenge I am having issues with pamac as well.. there is a problem with the pamac-all AUR package and until then I can't find a solution to enable flatpak/snap on pamac.. Apart from that AUR and official repos do work tho ..
First of all, congratulations -the reason why you've been less than punctual these days looks way beyond legit, and quite cute on top of that. More to the point of the video, I haven't really checked out Endeavour yet, but Manjaro KDE is a marvel. Addendum (edit) : choosing your DE in Calamares is so, so neat. Congrats, Endeavour!
The biggest difference is that endeavour uses the Arch repo and one own for the endeavourOS specific apps. Manjaro have their own repos and does not use the Arch repo.
Are you serious ? Manjaro dont use the Arch Repo ? 😂. You should checkout the settings from the pamac manager. You can even set flats and snaps. Yes the disslike for your noob comment is from me.
I used Manjaro Gnome, but after i reinstalled it, it was a bit weird so I went with endeavourOS with Gnome, which i later removed and got KDE and so far its been amazing tbh!
@@Jaro3D that's good to hear! I had trouble installing proprietary nvidia drivers on endeavouros since the graphic card on the computer im installing Linux on is a bit old.. but I'm sure it wasn't an issue for you assuming you have modern hardware. I might give endeavouros a shot again in the future!
I use the KDE version of Manjaro on my desktop and the XFCE version of Endeavour on one of my laptops.I love both of them and would recommend them myself to anyone wanting an easy way to try Arch.
After moving to EndeavourOS I too installed pamac, but I currently only use it to update the two flatpacks I use. Everything else I run through pacman/yay... Not sure what this says about me, do tell!
Endeavor always gets my vote over Manjaro. I've read too many times about the Manjaro devs views about security. Not only that, Endeavor is much closer to Arch.
Not too relevant but I really love Manjaro's dark greenish color scheme. Other distros and OSes tend to gravitate towards a lighter green or some gradients that are (in my opinion) less aesthetic.
I was told once that if I did not want to be too busy I should not have children,,, two daughters both through university and onward and I still have time for techhut….ha ha.. 😂 great presentations. I so prefer the level headed way you present. Thank you
Manjaro for me for 5 years now. Started with Arch but I experienced system breakdowns due to updates. I like Manjaro's additional testing of Arch's packages before releasing it to it's repo.
Endeavor - looks amazing. Tooo bad the recent ISO - fails frequently and if that wasn't bad enough - theres a "bug" that causes the GRUB to drop you right into the BIOS settings with no actual boot screen. Not so good - for such a promising Linux Distro.
I came to EOS a while ago from pop os. I wanted to try an arch based distro, but didn't want to ditch gnome, so EOS seemed like the way to go. I thought Manjaro was KDE only, but apparently they got it all. I didn't like the direction System76 is taking the cosmic desktop and would prefer a more default gnome shell and EOS did not disappoint. A clean EOS install with the latest gnome felt super clean and responsive. But I guess that is the beauty of linux.
I am using Linux now for 1.5+ years and loving it. But whenever I tried to distro hop to Arch distribution I found it difficult to use. Always have touchpad issues. But Ubuntu and it's derivatives I never had any of those issues. Currently, I am using Elementary OS as my daily driver.
Kinda the opposite for me. Have tried Ubuntu, Linux Mint and Zorin OS (all Ubuntu-based) and the trackpad was a hell to use. Just tried Manjaro for the first time and everything works absolutely flawless from the get-go.
I recently switched over to Endeavor after using Manjaro and Fedora KDE for a few years due to those distros feeling like the slowed down a lot. Come to find out that it was KDE that was just slow as Endeavor started to do the same so I switched out KDE for Cinnamon without reinstalling. Probably gonna stay on Cinnamon at least until Ubuntu 24.04 or Fedora 40 comes out. I may even run the Fedora Cinnamon spin definitely staying away from KDE until I can get an SSD for my rig. Some reason KDE works fine on my laptop that has an SSD but gets sluggish on my main more powerful desktop that just has a HDD. I may end up just keeping this Endeavor distro installed on my desktop and just put Fedora 40 or Ubuntu 24.04 on that laptop. I can't really use rolling distros on the laptop as that laptop may be in a drawer unused for months and I dont wanna have to troubleshoot errors for when 800+ updates fail to install.
I generally don't recommend any Arch base distro for beginners. However, if they want to learn Linux more deeply, I always recommend Endeavor to Manjaro simply because Manjaro's repo is just horrible.
@@thenujansandramohan8930 Few of packages I can install from regular Arch repo is not in Manjaro repo like Vivaldi when it was gone from AUR and grub customizer for no reason.
Manjaro is a buggy shitfest and I'd personally never recommend it to ANYONE. EndeavourOS is MUCH better tho I had an easier time just running arch Linux itself
I don't like yay because it installs go, and I'm not a user of that programming language. I prefer pikaur which is based on python. The downside is when python version changes (i.e. from 3.10 to 3.11) that you have to rebuild it with makepkg...
I'm bouncing between manjaro and endevor. I use kde plasma and feel like manjaro crashes less but thats obviously due to my lack of knowledge. Right now I'm rocking manjaro but thinking of jumping back in a little bit and seeing if my knowledge has improved
Manjaro has been my default OS for several years now and it feels like home if I use some other OS its just does not feel right. When I started using Linux I was distro hoping every week and tried many Linux distros ranging form Fedora to Debian and even did Arch the hard way and did learn a lot on about Linux in the process. Oh I use Cinnamon Manjaro with stock Manjaro theme and add Plank for a dock.
I think it's a good exercise to install arch manually at least once to really understand your system and be able to fix it when it breaks, but for subsequent install endeavouros os awesome.
Not everybody wants to be a professional Linux installer. Most of us have a life outside 'fixing' whatever went wrong this time.. If your career choice is being a Linux distro developer then more power to you, but you are in a tiny minority.
@@chrisg6091 You're missing my point. I know this isn't for everybody, but if you don't care to understand your system, there are better alternatives in point release distros such as ubuntu, mint, popos, etc. If you're committing to a rolling release distro, why not do it properly and learn how to fix it when something inevitably breaks or requires manual intervention? If you don't want to fix your system, then rolling release isn't for you, and that's okay.
@@timidgoldfish Stable distros are bloated and require huge updates every few months. Smaller incremental updates over time lead to a more consistent experience. Which is why Manjaro is so nice. It isn't so bleeding edge that you spend half of your timing fixing stuff and isn't stable so that you spend hours removing bloat and reconfiguring every time a new release drops in. The semi rolling model is best for people who just want to work on their computer and switch it off instead of wasting time.
@@user-he4ef9br7z If someone is too lazy to configure their own system or fix it when it breaks, I think "bloat" is the least of their worries. If you just want a stable desktop experience, LTS distros work just fine and stay supported for a long time. Plus, when you say removing bloat and re-configuring, it sounds more like something an enthusiast would do, which leads back to my point. If you want a good experience tinkering with your system then might as well sink a few hours into installing arch at least once to understand how some of the core components are put together. And just from personal experience, I've had Manjaro break on me a few times in the past.
@@timidgoldfish LTS distributions have their own issues. Firstly it'll be a pain to switch when the new one is released. On top of that they might lack more recent software and patches one might require. Manjaro will of course break, not nearly as often as Arch, at least in my experience. Configuring the work environment is hardly something confined to enthusiasts. Configuring is essential if one intends to be maximally efficient in their actual work. Most people won't find any use playing with config files all day, but those who configure it once and add a line or two every now and then have much to gain. Pretty much everybody agrees a bloated system is bad, regardless of how much time one spends on their computer no one wants things on their computer that they'll never use. People who want to spend less time on their system aren't necessarily lazy, it's just that they've got other work to do. At the end of the day, a computer is a tool, not a toy. If configuring your workflow gets in the way of actual work then that is a veritable waste of time. I won't say unstable distros are of no value. They are the perfect choice for people who would benefit from understanding more about their system, sysadmins, programmers (although from what I have seen professionals tend to use Ubuntu if they use Linux at all), or technology publishers (youtubers etc.), but the vast majority of people don't fall in those categories.
As a former Manjaro Linux user for 3 years, and have also used Arch Linux and Endeavour Linux, I can definitely say, Manjaro Linux is the best of the three. although in the end I'm more comfortable using Debian linux.
Yes, I am a professional racer, and I can definitely say that my 2006 Honda Civic is more faster than my Lamborghini Aventador. As a phone enthusiast, I can definitely say that my 2011 Galaxy S2 is better than my 2021 Galaxy S21.
I switched to Linux as my daily drive November 2020 and start with Manjaro, as I had also switched from Ubuntu to Arch based distros. Then I discovered EndeavourOS a few months later and have been largely using it since then. Unfortunately, as as late, I am loosing productive because simple things like Bluetooth and pCloud with Dolphin is just not working and Lord knows I don't have time to troubleshoot. That said, during the holiday break, I think I'm ready to head back to Manjaro. Thanks for the comparison and God bless.
Changed from mint to manjaro. The ui is fine and all but its a literally bad or at least not user-friendly version. Also the keyboard settings don't save up after reboot and you have to configure different layouts every time you boot. Dissapointing.
Heres how I see the differences between Manjaro Linux and Endeavour OS: Manjaro Linux is the Arch version of Ubuntu (based on Debian) while EndeavourOS is like a distro based on Debian but only with a few extra pre-installed or custom software (e.g. Raspbian OS or PureOS for the Librem5 smartphone and other Purism products [and a general download])...
since you use endeavour OS and i could not find anything about it by googling, let me ask here... On manjaro, for example, I can play cyberpunk 2077 (for example) using lutris with the same or maybe more fps than on linux, but on endeavour OS, it gets like 10, 20 fps, literally unplayable, do you have any idea whyt?
I love eos :3 The ability to have arch, without worrying over whether I can install it was really relieving. Been using it for almost 2 months now, and I'm super happy with it. Everything just works, and the things that don't don't because they're just not installed. And the idea of installing something you need instead of uninstalling something you don't I quite appreciate.
last try with Manjaro there was an issue with the system password, the GUI package manager would NOT work recently ran the EndeavourOS ISO and it mucked with my Mint grub, update-grub fixed things but WOW 😳 that caused me some distress but can you imagine someone with less experience... so ALL my Arch adventures have ended badly, alway back to Mint Mate... maybe if I could afford another laptop, or better yet a desktop with internet, but I just can't afford that and with the food prices rocketing 💲🚀🌕
I'm running both in Virtualbox on top of MX Linux. I really like the AUR and that you can get the latest versions of software on both these Arch-based distros, an example being Krita 5 on Manjaro and EOS while being stuck with Krita 4 in the latest version of Debian-based MX Linux. Years ago I ran Debian itself. While it offered tons of software, a lot of them were very updated. EOS's forums have a reputation for friendliness, but I really like how the XFCE version of Manjaro is set up, so I'm going to continue to test it in Virtualbox.
... mmmm. One thing about Manjaro that irritates me slightly, they have a 'Settings Manager' which includes a kernel selector, which I am wildly in favour of ~ I think it's great. But they have one minor fetish with it. If you run a dark theme, it sets with a light background. I rather dislike dark themes, I set a standard Mate theme like Windows '95, and that's all good, but the Settings Manager then runs the reverse theme. Only the settings manager. It does this in Mate, it seems to do it in every desktop ... I do kinda sorta get it, they want to distinguish the settings manager as a different thing (Mint have a warning box when you fire up the kernel manager, but there's a radio-checkbox, where you can switch that off) but I just find that reverse polarity irritating... So, simply switch it off. Really? How? I don't really want to go to a dark theme just to get rid of that, but if there's any other way to change it, then I'm not aware of it, and yes, I have looked. I say again, I do sort of get it, there's a reason for this, but it gets me grumpy...
@@AbteilungsleiterinBeiAntifaEV ~ I don't know, but I doubt it. I'm running Mate. I don't think I'm using the KDE-anything to open it. And as I said, it does seem to do this irrespective of the DesktopEnv.
@@AbteilungsleiterinBeiAntifaEV Ok, hang on ~ booting ~ ... I can't easily do that. I can sudo su and become root in the terminal, that works, but I can't become root in the GUI, and the 3 or 4 methods I have found to do that, don't work. There is no provision in the LightDM to login as anybody except me. Hang on, I'll keep fiddling with it ~ ---------------- Too much time and trouble. They've made it v difficult to actually login as root, and while I can find at least 5 different methods to circumvent that, none if them work. I can deal with the black background in the kernel manager - sheesh! :Roll-Eyes.
@@Kneedragon1962 I don't use any gnome based desktop, so I'm not really sure if this works, but what if you move the ~/.config/gtk-3.0 folder and its content into /root? Isn't that where GTK theme settings are stored?
So.... which one is best? Kidding. Might try out Endeavours at some point. I'Ve been a manjaro fanboy for almost 2 years now. Although then maybe I should just prepare myself a full ARch system. This is more of a curiosity thing - I actually quite like the balance that Manjaro offers, with "delayed" but still rolling updates. Very few times have I had any issue, mostly Nvidia-related stuff with kernel update. Which I seem to have fixed with dkms.
You know I figured that both are Arch based and linux drivers are handled automatically on both so might as well try to learn something new, get the less bloated one and try out Endeavour. Boy was I wrong ... Manjaro SOMEHOW has much better performance just using the desktop (same DE), not stuttering not slow, just smooth whereas Endeavour was not good. I don't know what's different but SOMETHING is.
I'd advise people to just build arch for the best experience, but if you're a very busy man like myself I'd say go with Endeavor over Manjaro for one simple reason. Manjaro for some reason uses it's own repos so occasionally packages I build from the AUR break as a result of a requisite program being slightly different from what it is in the arch repository. Other than that they're both very good and accentually arch with all of the pros and cons that come with a rolling release distro.
Neither of these distributions give the satisfaction you get when installing Arch, the arch way. And man, that feeling of "I built this" is amazing. Endeavour is good tho if a quick and almost vanilla installation is needed.
Totally understand that folks wish to put on their resume "I spent hours hand installing a Linux". I'm sure bosses really jump at that. Looks good on your tombstone also. Not to mention chicks sooo dig looking at a guy hunched over a keyboard 'fixing' his PC for the thousandth time.
@@chrisg6091 Installing Arch is not difficult at all, and it can be installed in 30 minutes or even less by an average person when you take the hang of it. It's just about reading a bit to understand the process, but I totally understand that not everybody wants to do that. Pd: Arch can as stable as any other distro, it just depends on how you are using it and the knowledge you have to maintain it; even so, we've got Timeshift if something happens to go wrong, which is unlikely, or to tinker whatever you want.
@@jesuscastro7314 I'm sure Elon Musk & Geoff Bezos have memorised the arcane details of hand installing Arch Linux from scratch too... There comes a time in your life when you learn to put a value on your time.
@@chrisg6091 I don't think they wouldn't even bother to learn Linux and if they did, they'd use something like Debian if we are talking about saving time. These "built from scratch" distros are for people willing to learn how their OS and computer work. If you don't have the time and any wish to do that, then it's fine for you; use whatever fits your needs. That's what GNU/Linux is about: diversity and freedom.
I prefer bauh to pamac. Pamac is good when you need to find software but if you know what you want bauh is more lightweight and I prefer the simpler interface
I hopped alot between endeavor and fedora, ATM on fedora in dual boot with windows 11 (if the kids need it for school projects). Endeavor and fedora are on the same nr1 place for me, the moment ms office comes to Linux for the kids there school stuff i dual boot both. Choices can be hard 😋
which arch distribution is best for HP Pavilion Gaming i7-8750H with NVidia Geforce GTX 1050ti? or is that ubuntu distribution perfect for this laptop? i dont want feature as such. i need stability and reliebility more.
@@benoitg6933 drivers for linux on most latest laptop is not there in support site of oem. so we need rely on drivers which is package inside os CD or iso. in this case which is better? manjaro or endeavour or ubuntu or other linux distribution. I need windows os level drivers capatibility in linux.
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I feel EndeavourOS was better for me, almost stock Arch with an easy installer.
anarchy linux is arch with a super easy installer. and you can get non-free drivers for your GPU if you want. maybe check the iso out if you got 10 minutes in a vm. :)
@@mrwhipple3759 Have tried anarchy before, still prefer endeavourOS.
@@ghantiii I'm just glad something works well for you:)
@@mrwhipple3759 That's the entire point of Linux. Use what you like, don't judge anybody else for using something else. At the end of the day, its free and open-source software. ;)
Arco too
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I love EndeavourOS with KDE Plasma! Been on it from day one (Antergos before it), and have lost all interest in distro hopping once I started with Antergos (Sort of Endeavour's predecessor). I couldn't be any happier with a distro. I tried Manjaro before I found Antergos, and it was way too bloated and buggy for my taste. Endeavour has been taking in lots of Manjaro refugees in the last few years! OK, so the Brittish English "let's be french" spelling is weird! (
"OK, so the Brittish English "let's be french" spelling is weird! (
@@GeoNeilUK I do think, and I meant it is weird to me being from the US, and not used to British spellings, that's all. It's not just Europe because it's near by, but in most of the world, including South America where English is taught, they teach British, not US English.
It's my freaking last name!
I have been using Manjaro for about 4 months now (thanks to you ) ... And it's turned out to be my daily driver for both my personal and work tesks. I really appreciate all the tricks and tips you roll out about this OS because I have been a casual Linux user and this the first I am using it for everything
Same here. Flirted with Linux when I was a kid and you could order physical Ubuntu CDs shipped to your physical mailbox (damn, it was ages ago 8.04 and 8.10), but the actual time I switched to daily driver Linux is Manjaro sometime summer 2018, and when I advice my friends to try Linux, this would be in top 3 "just works" distros form me. The other one I like are ArcoLinux and now I daily drive Garuda KDE edition (the most heavily styled and bloated one, yes). Funny thing that all of those are arch based, have good communities and ship with nice tweaks and various GUI tools for making easy some regular system maintainance tricks and common fixes
I've been on Ubuntu or an Ubuntu based distro since 8.04 i finally switch to Endeavor OS a couple of weeks ago. I also migrated from mostly useing xfce to the exclusively useing kde. Wow best decision ever. The yay command is my favorite thing ever. Can't believe I waited this long to switch ."life is good"
Endeavor OS. If you want a close-to-base arch install choose Endeavor. When you're ready then try a base Arch install. Good Luck!
I like endeavour os more. It's more stable.. after every big update manjaro would fu*ked up my system. But with endeavour I have never faced that issues.also eos has a great community
Same experience here! EndeavourOS rocks!
I wonder if Manjaro's testing or unstable branches might work better and be closer to vanilla Arch? I've also had this issue where an update borked my sound or something for no apparent reason. In any case EOS seems to stay out of the way when it comes to updates and doesn't hold things back. I guess Manjaro does this to make sure nothing breaks in their customized desktop versions?
well because AUR packages require you to have the lastest dependencies while manjaro holding it back, so eventually your system will break at some point
I have not tried EOS but I've been using Manjaro since I switched from windows close to 2 years ago. I have not found it to have any problems at all. It runs on all my systems very smoothly. I like the idea of trying out other flavors of Arch but then I always come back to why? Manjaro ticks off all the boxes for me.
Facing mp4 playing problems in OSs. In EndeavourOS vlc is failing to play mp4 but mpv plays well. I hate mpv player
Although not perfect I prefer Manjaro. I want something I can boot up and update while not having to be scared of bricking the system.
EndeavourOS had by far been more stable for me than manjaro, it’s legit. Now a days I’m just going pure Arch.
Pamac is cool, albeit frustrating
Why is it frustrating?
@@MarimbaMaurice On my old system it would constantly fail. But then I could go into the command line and pacman it up and it always worked.
@@tylersrevenge Okay that sounds weird.
@@tylersrevenge I am having issues with pamac as well.. there is a problem with the pamac-all AUR package and until then I can't find a solution to enable flatpak/snap on pamac.. Apart from that AUR and official repos do work tho ..
Installs Manjaro: proceeds to comment on random video "I use Arch,"
Bro XFCE is probably my favorite DE at this point. Simple and well executed.
Simpler than KDE plasma and more customisable and lighter than gnome.
You can make xfce look super good, especially with things like picom.
First of all, congratulations -the reason why you've been less than punctual these days looks way beyond legit, and quite cute on top of that.
More to the point of the video, I haven't really checked out Endeavour yet, but Manjaro KDE is a marvel.
Addendum (edit) : choosing your DE in Calamares is so, so neat. Congrats, Endeavour!
The biggest difference is that endeavour uses the Arch repo and one own for the endeavourOS specific apps. Manjaro have their own repos and does not use the Arch repo.
AND THAT'S WHY MANJARO TENDS TO BRAKE THE SYSTEM SOMETIMES IN MY EXPERIENCE. SINCE I USE ARCH, I'VE NEVER HAD AN ISSUE !
@@MrG0CE turn off the caps lock
@@MrG0CE have you had an issue with ur keyboard? Lol
@@MrG0CE I agree but please be more quiet
Are you serious ? Manjaro dont use the Arch Repo ? 😂. You should checkout the settings from the pamac manager. You can even set flats and snaps. Yes the disslike for your noob comment is from me.
My arch based distro of choice and two of distro ive used before moving to vanilla arch.
I used Manjaro Gnome, but after i reinstalled it, it was a bit weird so I went with endeavourOS with Gnome, which i later removed and got KDE and so far its been amazing tbh!
are you still using Endeavouros now? Have you ever faced system crashes or bugs?
@@lemoanfr i do still use endeavour os and it is a good os, stable, no crashes anything but I use KDE now
@@Jaro3D that's good to hear! I had trouble installing proprietary nvidia drivers on endeavouros since the graphic card on the computer im installing Linux on is a bit old.. but I'm sure it wasn't an issue for you assuming you have modern hardware. I might give endeavouros a shot again in the future!
I use the KDE version of Manjaro on my desktop and the XFCE version of Endeavour on one of my laptops.I love both of them and would recommend them myself to anyone wanting an easy way to try Arch.
Once I've installed Manjaro XFCE LTS MINIMAL, I never looked back
After moving to EndeavourOS I too installed pamac, but I currently only use it to update the two flatpacks I use. Everything else I run through pacman/yay... Not sure what this says about me, do tell!
Endeavor always gets my vote over Manjaro. I've read too many times about the Manjaro devs views about security. Not only that, Endeavor is much closer to Arch.
Not too relevant but I really love Manjaro's dark greenish color scheme. Other distros and OSes tend to gravitate towards a lighter green or some gradients that are (in my opinion) less aesthetic.
manjaro is for normal users and endeavor is for people who like to type. That's the difference.
Congratulation for having a baby .. great videos with rich info and easy explanation as always
I think you missed the fact that Manjaro does not use the Arch repos and this makes it incompatible with some version of AUR packages
I was told once that if I did not want to be too busy I should not have children,,, two daughters both through university and onward and I still have time for techhut….ha ha.. 😂 great presentations. I so prefer the level headed way you present. Thank you
I'm rocking the Endeavor OS KDE & Gnome version. I'm still playing with it a little and the experience is fantastic.
Manjaro for me for 5 years now. Started with Arch but I experienced system breakdowns due to updates. I like Manjaro's additional testing of Arch's packages before releasing it to it's repo.
ehhh i think "instability" experiences are super subjective in arch based distros.
@@raeedibnzaman1 true
The same for me, Manjaro is more stable when doing updates...
You're supposed to learn how to fix it
@@jakefromstatefarm4771 Why not fix it first before distributing so that I don't have to
is endeavourOS a good choice for programmers/developers ?
i like endeavourOS over manjaro. Works great for gaming and productivity
Manjaro kde is the way to go, for a proper customisable stable experience, using it more than 3 years, btw awasome video.
I used to feel like that too, however, I started to really appreciate Manjaro Gnome 41. I never thought I'd like Gnome over KDE but it happened lol 😮
Add ArcoLinux to that too with amazing support community and developpers
Endeavor - looks amazing. Tooo bad the recent ISO - fails frequently and if that wasn't bad enough - theres a "bug" that causes the GRUB to drop you right into the BIOS settings with no actual boot screen. Not so good - for such a promising Linux Distro.
I came to EOS a while ago from pop os. I wanted to try an arch based distro, but didn't want to ditch gnome, so EOS seemed like the way to go. I thought Manjaro was KDE only, but apparently they got it all. I didn't like the direction System76 is taking the cosmic desktop and would prefer a more default gnome shell and EOS did not disappoint. A clean EOS install with the latest gnome felt super clean and responsive. But I guess that is the beauty of linux.
Both are great distros. I've been daily driving Manjaro for most of this year. Been working smoothly.
I am using Linux now for 1.5+ years and loving it. But whenever I tried to distro hop to Arch distribution I found it difficult to use. Always have touchpad issues. But Ubuntu and it's derivatives I never had any of those issues. Currently, I am using Elementary OS as my daily driver.
Kinda the opposite for me. Have tried Ubuntu, Linux Mint and Zorin OS (all Ubuntu-based) and the trackpad was a hell to use. Just tried Manjaro for the first time and everything works absolutely flawless from the get-go.
@@GamerBoy705_yt my only problem with manjaro is pamac. rest is actually pretty good. i definitely prefer plain arch though.
If it ain't broke don't fix it. Stick with what works for you 👋
I recently switched over to Endeavor after using Manjaro and Fedora KDE for a few years due to those distros feeling like the slowed down a lot. Come to find out that it was KDE that was just slow as Endeavor started to do the same so I switched out KDE for Cinnamon without reinstalling. Probably gonna stay on Cinnamon at least until Ubuntu 24.04 or Fedora 40 comes out. I may even run the Fedora Cinnamon spin definitely staying away from KDE until I can get an SSD for my rig. Some reason KDE works fine on my laptop that has an SSD but gets sluggish on my main more powerful desktop that just has a HDD. I may end up just keeping this Endeavor distro installed on my desktop and just put Fedora 40 or Ubuntu 24.04 on that laptop. I can't really use rolling distros on the laptop as that laptop may be in a drawer unused for months and I dont wanna have to troubleshoot errors for when 800+ updates fail to install.
I generally don't recommend any Arch base distro for beginners. However, if they want to learn Linux more deeply, I always recommend Endeavor to Manjaro simply because Manjaro's repo is just horrible.
Why do you think manjaro's repo is horrible?
Rubbish. Manjaro's whole raison d'etre is to carefully steward the changes rolling in from Arch, a job they do very well for the most part.
@@thenujansandramohan8930 Few of packages I can install from regular Arch repo is not in Manjaro repo like Vivaldi when it was gone from AUR and grub customizer for no reason.
EndeavourOS with Mate is a pleasant, complete, compact and clean experience
Manjaro is a buggy shitfest and I'd personally never recommend it to ANYONE. EndeavourOS is MUCH better tho I had an easier time just running arch Linux itself
I don't like yay because it installs go, and I'm not a user of that programming language. I prefer pikaur which is based on python. The downside is when python version changes (i.e. from 3.10 to 3.11) that you have to rebuild it with makepkg...
Based comparison
Always go for EndeavourOS way much better!
I’ve tried both, went back to Manjaro for simplicity. Endeavor is cool too though.
How does Garuda Linux compare to the two versions of Arch that you are reviewing?
I'm bouncing between manjaro and endevor. I use kde plasma and feel like manjaro crashes less but thats obviously due to my lack of knowledge. Right now I'm rocking manjaro but thinking of jumping back in a little bit and seeing if my knowledge has improved
Both linux distributions are loaded full of problems and shouldn't be tried by the average PC user.
Manjaro has been my default OS for several years now and it feels like home if I use some other OS its just does not feel right. When I started using Linux I was distro hoping every week and tried many Linux distros ranging form Fedora to Debian and even did Arch the hard way and did learn a lot on about Linux in the process. Oh I use Cinnamon Manjaro with stock Manjaro theme and add Plank for a dock.
I think it's a good exercise to install arch manually at least once to really understand your system and be able to fix it when it breaks, but for subsequent install endeavouros os awesome.
Not everybody wants to be a professional Linux installer. Most of us have a life outside 'fixing' whatever went wrong this time..
If your career choice is being a Linux distro developer then more power to you, but you are in a tiny minority.
@@chrisg6091 You're missing my point. I know this isn't for everybody, but if you don't care to understand your system, there are better alternatives in point release distros such as ubuntu, mint, popos, etc. If you're committing to a rolling release distro, why not do it properly and learn how to fix it when something inevitably breaks or requires manual intervention? If you don't want to fix your system, then rolling release isn't for you, and that's okay.
@@timidgoldfish Stable distros are bloated and require huge updates every few months. Smaller incremental updates over time lead to a more consistent experience. Which is why Manjaro is so nice. It isn't so bleeding edge that you spend half of your timing fixing stuff and isn't stable so that you spend hours removing bloat and reconfiguring every time a new release drops in. The semi rolling model is best for people who just want to work on their computer and switch it off instead of wasting time.
@@user-he4ef9br7z If someone is too lazy to configure their own system or fix it when it breaks, I think "bloat" is the least of their worries. If you just want a stable desktop experience, LTS distros work just fine and stay supported for a long time. Plus, when you say removing bloat and re-configuring, it sounds more like something an enthusiast would do, which leads back to my point. If you want a good experience tinkering with your system then might as well sink a few hours into installing arch at least once to understand how some of the core components are put together. And just from personal experience, I've had Manjaro break on me a few times in the past.
@@timidgoldfish
LTS distributions have their own issues. Firstly it'll be a pain to switch when the new one is released. On top of that they might lack more recent software and patches one might require. Manjaro will of course break, not nearly as often as Arch, at least in my experience.
Configuring the work environment is hardly something confined to enthusiasts. Configuring is essential if one intends to be maximally efficient in their actual work. Most people won't find any use playing with config files all day, but those who configure it once and add a line or two every now and then have much to gain.
Pretty much everybody agrees a bloated system is bad, regardless of how much time one spends on their computer no one wants things on their computer that they'll never use. People who want to spend less time on their system aren't necessarily lazy, it's just that they've got other work to do. At the end of the day, a computer is a tool, not a toy. If configuring your workflow gets in the way of actual work then that is a veritable waste of time. I won't say unstable distros are of no value. They are the perfect choice for people who would benefit from understanding more about their system, sysadmins, programmers (although from what I have seen professionals tend to use Ubuntu if they use Linux at all), or technology publishers (youtubers etc.), but the vast majority of people don't fall in those categories.
how is the nvidia support for endeavouros?
Thank you, @TechHut for your videos. Congratulations, and I hope you finish your classes strong and do well on your coming exams.
As a former Manjaro Linux user for 3 years, and have also used Arch Linux and Endeavour Linux, I can definitely say, Manjaro Linux is the best of the three. although in the end I'm more comfortable using Debian linux.
Yes, I am a professional racer, and I can definitely say that my 2006 Honda Civic is more faster than my Lamborghini Aventador. As a phone enthusiast, I can definitely say that my 2011 Galaxy S2 is better than my 2021 Galaxy S21.
@@rayyanshaikh5591 :D
@@rayyanshaikh5591I’m a professional UI designer and I can tell you that Oranges are more tangy than an iPhone
I use Manjaro because of it's stability, if they had a better dev team it would be perfect
I've used Manjaro XFCE and Gnome(my current DE) and love how well they work. Tried several others but keep coming back.
How much memory so you have?
I switched to Linux as my daily drive November 2020 and start with Manjaro, as I had also switched from Ubuntu to Arch based distros. Then I discovered EndeavourOS a few months later and have been largely using it since then. Unfortunately, as as late, I am loosing productive because simple things like Bluetooth and pCloud with Dolphin is just not working and Lord knows I don't have time to troubleshoot. That said, during the holiday break, I think I'm ready to head back to Manjaro. Thanks for the comparison and God bless.
@zilqnova EOS use the official arch repo and a custom one with only they're tool on it. So its basically arch.
ArcoLinux is also a very nice Arch based distro!
Go ahead and say go ahead as many times as you go ahead and want to go ahead and say. 😵💫
Have timeshift cuz it will break
My one gripe with Gnome is the fact that they stubbornly refuse to fork Nemo for their File Manager, instead the stick with the much inferior Nautilus
I hate endeavour look and feel, i tried but it isn't for me
Curious would you say its worth switching from arch to EndeavourOS?
Who gets the dub (W/Win)
On my system EndeavourOS runs faster. I'm not ready for pure Arch yet as I'm just a Padawan, but EndeavourOS seems a bit closer.
I distrohopped EndeavourOS over Manjaro because purple is my favourite colour lol
Thanks & CONGRATS on your beautiful new infant 👍🗽🕊
Changed from mint to manjaro. The ui is fine and all but its a literally bad or at least not user-friendly version. Also the keyboard settings don't save up after reboot and you have to configure different layouts every time you boot. Dissapointing.
Manjaro is so buggy, every update it breaks, My whole OS and HDD crashed just updating the os.
You need a haircut, boyo!
Io preferisco Manjaro Gnome.
Ho provato EndeavourOS e non mi è piaciuto affatto.
Heres how I see the differences between Manjaro Linux and Endeavour OS:
Manjaro Linux is the Arch version of Ubuntu (based on Debian) while EndeavourOS is like a distro based on Debian but only with a few extra pre-installed or custom software (e.g. Raspbian OS or PureOS for the Librem5 smartphone and other Purism products [and a general download])...
I use arch btw
I have issues with gnome sleep mode I tried Manjaro, Endavour, Popos, Fedora. It cant wake. Acer swift 3 amd ryzen 4000 series.
since you use endeavour OS and i could not find anything about it by googling, let me ask here...
On manjaro, for example, I can play cyberpunk 2077 (for example) using lutris with the same or maybe more fps than on linux, but on endeavour OS, it gets like 10, 20 fps, literally unplayable, do you have any idea whyt?
I thought it was pacman not pamac?
I love eos :3 The ability to have arch, without worrying over whether I can install it was really relieving. Been using it for almost 2 months now, and I'm super happy with it. Everything just works, and the things that don't don't because they're just not installed. And the idea of installing something you need instead of uninstalling something you don't I quite appreciate.
last try with Manjaro there was an issue with the system password, the GUI package manager would NOT work
recently ran the EndeavourOS ISO and it mucked with my Mint grub, update-grub fixed things but WOW 😳 that caused me some distress but can you imagine someone with less experience...
so ALL my Arch adventures have ended badly, alway back to Mint Mate...
maybe if I could afford another laptop, or better yet a desktop with internet, but I just can't afford that and with the food prices rocketing 💲🚀🌕
I prefer Endeavour but almost same which you install. Endeavour less bloat
Next comparison: vanilla vs EOS.
Vanilla has GUI installer already.
Or, Rocky linux vs Fedora Kinoite
Does EndevourOS support Sudo commands?/Bash commanding?
Arch made easy? Always Manjaro! If you're not at all familiar with linux, EndeavourOS can be a nightmare. Beautiful, fast, but a nightmare!
I'm running both in Virtualbox on top of MX Linux. I really like the AUR and that you can get the latest versions of software on both these Arch-based distros, an example being Krita 5 on Manjaro and EOS while being stuck with Krita 4 in the latest version of Debian-based MX Linux. Years ago I ran Debian itself. While it offered tons of software, a lot of them were very updated. EOS's forums have a reputation for friendliness, but I really like how the XFCE version of Manjaro is set up, so I'm going to continue to test it in Virtualbox.
EndeavorOS
... mmmm. One thing about Manjaro that irritates me slightly, they have a 'Settings Manager' which includes a kernel selector, which I am wildly in favour of ~ I think it's great. But they have one minor fetish with it. If you run a dark theme, it sets with a light background. I rather dislike dark themes, I set a standard Mate theme like Windows '95, and that's all good, but the Settings Manager then runs the reverse theme. Only the settings manager. It does this in Mate, it seems to do it in every desktop ...
I do kinda sorta get it, they want to distinguish the settings manager as a different thing (Mint have a warning box when you fire up the kernel manager, but there's a radio-checkbox, where you can switch that off) but I just find that reverse polarity irritating...
So, simply switch it off.
Really? How? I don't really want to go to a dark theme just to get rid of that, but if there's any other way to change it, then I'm not aware of it, and yes, I have looked.
I say again, I do sort of get it, there's a reason for this, but it gets me grumpy...
Could it be that you're opening the settings manager with something like kdesu? Because then you have to set the dark theme for your root user.
@@AbteilungsleiterinBeiAntifaEV ~ I don't know, but I doubt it. I'm running Mate. I don't think I'm using the KDE-anything to open it. And as I said, it does seem to do this irrespective of the DesktopEnv.
@@Kneedragon1962 still, try logging in as root and changing the theme there
@@AbteilungsleiterinBeiAntifaEV Ok, hang on ~ booting ~ ... I can't easily do that. I can sudo su and become root in the terminal, that works, but I can't become root in the GUI, and the 3 or 4 methods I have found to do that, don't work. There is no provision in the LightDM to login as anybody except me. Hang on, I'll keep fiddling with it ~
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Too much time and trouble. They've made it v difficult to actually login as root, and while I can find at least 5 different methods to circumvent that, none if them work.
I can deal with the black background in the kernel manager - sheesh! :Roll-Eyes.
@@Kneedragon1962 I don't use any gnome based desktop, so I'm not really sure if this works, but what if you move the ~/.config/gtk-3.0 folder and its content into /root? Isn't that where GTK theme settings are stored?
I use arch btw
I need EndeavourOS with the stability of Manjaro
majaro causes me problems because of mhwd. endeavour was a much more positive experience. i prefer arch-gui!!!
vote for EndeavourOS, because EndeavourOS has better performance in my virtual machine
Manjaro has gui kernel manager but it doesnt allow u to install some gaming kernels
You need arch
So.... which one is best?
Kidding. Might try out Endeavours at some point. I'Ve been a manjaro fanboy for almost 2 years now. Although then maybe I should just prepare myself a full ARch system. This is more of a curiosity thing - I actually quite like the balance that Manjaro offers, with "delayed" but still rolling updates. Very few times have I had any issue, mostly Nvidia-related stuff with kernel update. Which I seem to have fixed with dkms.
You know I figured that both are Arch based and linux drivers are handled automatically on both so might as well try to learn something new, get the less bloated one and try out Endeavour.
Boy was I wrong ... Manjaro SOMEHOW has much better performance just using the desktop (same DE), not stuttering not slow, just smooth whereas Endeavour was not good.
I don't know what's different but SOMETHING is.
Congrats and a libre welcome the the new world citizen.
I use vanilla arch on my main pc then endeavour on my other laptop because im too lazy to install vanilla arch on it lol.
I'd advise people to just build arch for the best experience, but if you're a very busy man like myself I'd say go with Endeavor over Manjaro for one simple reason. Manjaro for some reason uses it's own repos so occasionally packages I build from the AUR break as a result of a requisite program being slightly different from what it is in the arch repository. Other than that they're both very good and accentually arch with all of the pros and cons that come with a rolling release distro.
Hey bro good videos, just curious but are you studing something with GIS (geographic information ssystems)?
Neither of these distributions give the satisfaction you get when installing Arch, the arch way. And man, that feeling of "I built this" is amazing. Endeavour is good tho if a quick and almost vanilla installation is needed.
Totally understand that folks wish to put on their resume "I spent hours hand installing a Linux". I'm sure bosses really jump at that. Looks good on your tombstone also. Not to mention chicks sooo dig looking at a guy hunched over a keyboard 'fixing' his PC for the thousandth time.
@@chrisg6091 Installing Arch is not difficult at all, and it can be installed in 30 minutes or even less by an average person when you take the hang of it. It's just about reading a bit to understand the process, but I totally understand that not everybody wants to do that.
Pd: Arch can as stable as any other distro, it just depends on how you are using it and the knowledge you have to maintain it; even so, we've got Timeshift if something happens to go wrong, which is unlikely, or to tinker whatever you want.
@@jesuscastro7314 I'm sure Elon Musk & Geoff Bezos have memorised the arcane details of hand installing Arch Linux from scratch too...
There comes a time in your life when you learn to put a value on your time.
@@chrisg6091 I don't think they wouldn't even bother to learn Linux and if they did, they'd use something like Debian if we are talking about saving time. These "built from scratch" distros are for people willing to learn how their OS and computer work.
If you don't have the time and any wish to do that, then it's fine for you; use whatever fits your needs. That's what GNU/Linux is about: diversity and freedom.
I prefer bauh to pamac. Pamac is good when you need to find software but if you know what you want bauh is more lightweight and I prefer the simpler interface
so far I am finding endeavor to be more stable than manjaro idk why but I haven't had it break yet but manjaro just seems to behave strangely.
How is arch GUI installer compared with Manjaro and Endeavor
I hopped alot between endeavor and fedora, ATM on fedora in dual boot with windows 11 (if the kids need it for school projects). Endeavor and fedora are on the same nr1 place for me, the moment ms office comes to Linux for the kids there school stuff i dual boot both. Choices can be hard 😋
which arch distribution is best for HP Pavilion Gaming i7-8750H with NVidia Geforce GTX 1050ti? or is that ubuntu distribution perfect for this laptop? i dont want feature as such. i need stability and reliebility more.
EndeavourOS
Manjaro stable is supposed to be the most reliable, I haven't had issues on my xps 13 after a few months.
@@benoitg6933 lol
@@benoitg6933 drivers for linux on most latest laptop is not there in support site of oem. so we need rely on drivers which is package inside os CD or iso. in this case which is better? manjaro or endeavour or ubuntu or other linux distribution. I need windows os level drivers capatibility in linux.
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