Fire Mage Gameplay Guide 11.0 - Part 1 (Rotation, Talents, Stats etc.)

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  • @Forgyy
    @Forgyy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Since some people have asked and its a fair question - IB is Fire Blast

    • @georgeangelovg
      @georgeangelovg 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      why is IB fire blast? fire blast has always been called fire blast. was just wondering

    • @Forgyy
      @Forgyy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@georgeangelovg It used to be called Inferno Blast in WoD and so we stuck with IB to distinguish between Fireball (FB)

    • @HOBOTw1tcH
      @HOBOTw1tcH 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ForgyyI found it hilarious that you were literally saying fire blast and IB in the same sentence a few times 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Forgyy
      @Forgyy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@HOBOTw1tcH LOL thats funny ya wonder why it happens in my brain like that

    • @joeproyaknow
      @joeproyaknow 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@HOBOTw1tcH that's why I was confused. He was using both ib and fireblast so I was like wtf is ib lol

  • @BushesDid911
    @BushesDid911 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Forgyy, I’ve always been so intimidated by fire mage but after watching Poptart Corndog this race and seeing you defy the meta and blast, I decided to try and learn it. Thankfully, with the help of this guide, I’ve been have a shit load of fun on the class. Still need more haste but I’m enjoying it immensely. Thanks for this 🙏

  • @Ashandsax
    @Ashandsax 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Really comprehensive guide. I really appreciate you instructing about the edge cases. Do that more.

  • @menno_g
    @menno_g 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Was waiting for this! Glad you're making these again. Thanks so much. :)

  • @MrSirZa
    @MrSirZa 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Exactly what I wanted to see. Thank you for this guide Forgyy!

  • @Sn4t3r
    @Sn4t3r 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for making this. Playing arcane right now but want to switch to fire. This is really helpful

  • @skar4276
    @skar4276 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very informative and well explained, cheers! Love you

  • @hasany.9095
    @hasany.9095 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    forgy you are so good, dratnos is right by saying that you are by far the best player in your guild, exceptional

  • @alsius9162
    @alsius9162 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Timestamps would improve this tenfold!

    • @Forgyy
      @Forgyy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Its something I usually do but this is a very impromptu video so I havent had time to do all the smaller QoL stuff! I'll try and find time to add them in this/future videos tho ty =)

  • @sunfiretys
    @sunfiretys 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for this, playing Fire Mage as main first time ever in this tww season 1 m+ only and have problem to keep up other dps, but i at least i know now one of my issues is that i use too much scorch as filler when i should use more fireball.

  • @IINoisesII
    @IINoisesII 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He is back 😍😍

  • @_smety_1543
    @_smety_1543 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Forgyy what build do you like to play in m+? I always play fire mage but when tww launched I had to play arcane due to fire having no dmg, and now when I looked and compared logs Im gonna go back to lovely fire. Your videos are always so helpful.

    • @Forgyy
      @Forgyy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I show two different m+ builds in this video, both are good, you can play whichever you prefer. Follow single target rotation and change Pyroblast to Flamestrike at 5+ targets

  • @Leito-jp6pv
    @Leito-jp6pv 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i love ur videos, I would love to watch your commented videos of bosses with Arcane again, they were spectacular.

    • @Forgyy
      @Forgyy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i plan to do commentaries still but they wont all be arcane (depends on what I get kills on pretty much)

  • @wizzy4123
    @wizzy4123 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Inshallah, Forgy has finally dropped the holy scripture fire mage guide 🙏🙏

  • @MstarSmith
    @MstarSmith 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great overview thank you!

  • @whampiece
    @whampiece 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you Forgy. Playing fire with confidence now thanks to this video.

  • @dawn5399
    @dawn5399 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    what u said about TW and time anomaly is funny af that it works like that

    • @QPoily
      @QPoily 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I noticed it myself a few days ago and was like.. what?
      Makes me curious though if Arcane/Frost do care about the double lust or if they also prefer their own burst CDs to proc.

    • @Forgyy
      @Forgyy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@QPoily nah they dont care, fire barely cares if at all

  • @AmirMerlin
    @AmirMerlin 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ty for good guide like always

  • @sir.tronin
    @sir.tronin 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey, thanks for the video. What build/rotation would you suggest in m+ for 3-4 targets for starters? I see you're suggesting FS for 5+ targets and solo rotation otherwise, but isn't there anything inbetween? Living bomb build?

    • @Forgyy
      @Forgyy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      you play the single target build and just play single target rotation. If there is a mix of 3-4 and 5+, then take the flamestrike page i showed and just swap flamestrike to pyro below 5 targets

  • @SoheilAhmadi62
    @SoheilAhmadi62 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good guide ❤

  • @HOBOTw1tcH
    @HOBOTw1tcH 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the guide. Tell dratnos he sucks! Much love fellow mage

  • @GnomeHats
    @GnomeHats 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How do you feel about Fire mage being a lot simpler than before? It gave me whiplash to go from SKB Dragonflight Fire to current Fire. I’m split on it-I loved the complexity old Fire had, but this iteration is pretty chill and can be fun with how mobile we are now. Although the current gameplay is very enjoyable in its own way, sometimes I do miss the satisfaction of mastering old Fire.

    • @Forgyy
      @Forgyy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      you pretty much captured my feelings towards it. I miss the complexity and skill expression but its nice to have such a chill build. I'm sure when SKB comes back it'll be still as complex or even moreso if its frostfire SKB

    • @kinesics8071
      @kinesics8071 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Are we back to pre SKB fire like in S1 shadowlands?

  • @Jantbach17
    @Jantbach17 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Been too long since a forgy vid

  • @karayuz
    @karayuz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    is spontaneous combustion a thing if u have 0 crit or smth? its kinda halves the skill expression

    • @Forgyy
      @Forgyy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      i thought it might be initially during beta tbh but it seems not needed at all just cuz u are already flooded with resources and the extra 2s of combust + mastery gain is pretty valuable due to how strong combustion and ignite is rn

    • @karayuz
      @karayuz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Forgyy ty for answer

    • @ejchamorro6708
      @ejchamorro6708 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Forgyy if you have literally 0 crit though will improved combustion do nothing?

  • @mariusmrkeberg791
    @mariusmrkeberg791 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Our savior!

  • @qstrql_sg
    @qstrql_sg 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not saying "PF/IB" but Phoenix's flame/Fire blast would help so much, not every one is that familiar with the spec. Making a guide and not thinking about new people that get in the spec will make many people unmotivated to try fire :/

    • @Forgyy
      @Forgyy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Its fair feedback. I'm not sure how realistic it is that I will remember it but ill keep it in mind ty

    • @qstrql_sg
      @qstrql_sg 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Forgyy The guide is still really good and I love your content over all ! Thanks for taking my comment into consideration

    • @Xpoper
      @Xpoper 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      what is IB

    • @qstrql_sg
      @qstrql_sg 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Xpoper read pinned comment

  • @truenvy7509
    @truenvy7509 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hi, do you have a weakaura, indicating, when to use shifting power?
    I mean, if combustion, IB and phoenix are on cd and you can cast it with no wasting important CDs

    • @Forgyy
      @Forgyy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      unfortunately no, i think its too many variables potentially to make a perfect WA for

  • @Svystas
    @Svystas 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I apologize for asking unrelated spec questions in fire mage guide. But does self/double lust change anything for arcane ?

    • @Forgyy
      @Forgyy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      no, it is dps neutral to lust or have another person lust

  • @dys112
    @dys112 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    is Glorious Incandescence ever considered during random Hypothermia procs since we can't generate more spellfire orbs until we IB with GI up?

    • @Forgyy
      @Forgyy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      thats not actually true, you still generate heating up and hot streak during HT, so you can still generate spheres during HT, and Glorious does not block sphere generation or anything like that

    • @dys112
      @dys112 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Forgyy oh ok, thank you!

  • @sebas-yy7kp
    @sebas-yy7kp 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    hey mate what a great guide . would be nice if you can make frost mage guide for m+.too. i need to change from arcane to frost but i dont know shit about the spec:D

    • @Forgyy
      @Forgyy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I usually leave frost guides up to manather since hes more knowledgeable about it than I am about frost so I'd check his stuff out if u want frost stuff ^^

    • @Pastrahmy
      @Pastrahmy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why change to frost? I main frost and see arcane pumping higher in raid/m+.

  • @connormcclelland3344
    @connormcclelland3344 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where does keeping improved scorch uptime fall on the priority list when in combust? It feels nice to refresh it with a heat shimmer proc but unsure if I should be hardcasting a scorch during bust just to keep uptime on it

    • @keithburgess5456
      @keithburgess5456 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I use to hard cast it but just use it if everything else is on CD the last thing you want is a FB cause cast time too slow. Definitely use scorch below 30% hp because you get all the perks scorch has. Also you will have to figure out if you want improved scorch or Scald improve boast dmg over everything else and scald lets your scorch hit for like 300% dmg, either way you go is t but improved prob slightly better because 14% to all dmg

    • @Forgyy
      @Forgyy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You probs shouldnt be playing heat shimmer as explained in the video cuz its just neutral on ST and loss in AoE. Priority of refreshing improved scorch is just below IB and Empowered PF. So go through those first before you worry about improved scorch.

    • @Forgyy
      @Forgyy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@keithburgess5456 Scald should never be considered. Scorch is a terrible spell right now that does no damage even with 300% amp. Its only value is improved scorch and still it is not worht permanently refreshing it regardless of conditions - check my other reply ^^

    • @connormcclelland3344
      @connormcclelland3344 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Forgyy ahh ok, I thought it was slightly better but if it's just not worth taking it that's even easier lol

  • @docdrops8185
    @docdrops8185 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I saw on logs that you are running frostfire and man you were putting up numbers. Is sunfury still the way to go?

    • @Forgyy
      @Forgyy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      when did i run frostfire? i never did o_o can u link

    • @docdrops8185
      @docdrops8185 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Forgyy i could have sworn you did, but now looking at logs it looks like you have sunfury. Sorry for the confusion

  • @davidw.5984
    @davidw.5984 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks! 😀

  • @gajowy9255
    @gajowy9255 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is Living Bomb build big DPS loss? I really like the fantasy of it, but I wouldn't want to lack too much in damage.

    • @Forgyy
      @Forgyy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There are viable bomb builds for keys, the one that was shown is pretty good for keys. Nothing much worse than the others or better than others but ya

    • @gajowy9255
      @gajowy9255 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ForgyyThank you and thanks for the guide overall! It was really pleasant to watch and learn from it.

  • @agustinhurtado315
    @agustinhurtado315 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice video! Is fire BEST spec again? Hope yes!

    • @Forgyy
      @Forgyy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      its good, you should play it if you enjoy it and not worry about what is best because it doesnt matter

  • @Aeqou
    @Aeqou 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    king! is there a written guide like you've made previous seasons?

    • @Forgyy
      @Forgyy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey =) I will make a written guide in the future if this guide becomes outdated pretty much, but while this one is still accurate I will chill i think

    • @Aeqou
      @Aeqou 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Forgyy understandable, king 🔥👑

  • @williamcoutu9302
    @williamcoutu9302 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    when Should I play flamestrike VS living bomb? and will I get screamed at for switching fire instead of arcane in both raid/m+?

    • @Forgyy
      @Forgyy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      its up to you as long as you choose 1 of the two shown builds pretty much. They are both fine and good, living bomb build does slightly less ST tho. I cant tell if youre gonna get screamed at because i am not the pug leaders/community. Fire is strong, people are stupid

    • @williamcoutu9302
      @williamcoutu9302 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Forgyy thx, you're the goat

  • @Mallgar
    @Mallgar 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about ignite build?
    Tried it out this week and it was good.
    Or is it only because of mastery buff affix?

    • @Forgyy
      @Forgyy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the difference between ignite and flamestrike is two talents. Calling them two different builds is extremely weird and fake to me. Its the same build in my eyes, one just drops 2% ST value for a bit more aoe, doesnt matter which one you play because they are almost identical

  • @n00n_tv
    @n00n_tv 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does fire perform better then arcane in m+ ? Im confused atm and playing arcane. Not sure if frost or fire is stronger or equal

    • @Forgyy
      @Forgyy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      All are fine and you should play what you are b est at/enjoy most unless you are doing world first keys. Stop worrying about what is "stronger" when the differences are 1-5% because it doesnt matter / affect you

    • @n00n_tv
      @n00n_tv 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Forgyy ty for this answer

  • @djapedjape8507
    @djapedjape8507 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you share your WA? Good guide btw!

    • @Forgyy
      @Forgyy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@djapedjape8507 everything already shared in my discord :)

  • @Spibi
    @Spibi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    cant imagine what the poor priest Benderic goes through with that PI macro

    • @Forgyy
      @Forgyy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      he asked me to make it whisper him as many times as possible cuz lots of ppl spam him i swear LOL

  • @joeproyaknow
    @joeproyaknow 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What are IBs?

    • @Forgyy
      @Forgyy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      fire blast - look at the pinned comment

  • @FoxFoxxxxx
    @FoxFoxxxxx 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you

  • @Pastrahmy
    @Pastrahmy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    IB is pyroblast? Sry, new mage here.

    • @huruh5819
      @huruh5819 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've been trying to figure out what IB is and I cannot find it. It's been mentioned every four words but I don't see anything that matches the letters.

    • @haggi_3760
      @haggi_3760 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Fireblast

    • @Forgyy
      @Forgyy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@huruh5819 IB is fire blast

  • @_Garm_
    @_Garm_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    a begginer fire mage, what is IB ? :)

    • @Forgyy
      @Forgyy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      fire blast - its in the pinned comment ^^

    • @_Garm_
      @_Garm_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Forgyy thank you :D

  • @eraman7
    @eraman7 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Finally

  • @koolakustoms5642
    @koolakustoms5642 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I feel like everything I do Is proper or close ish to this
    And I feel like I hit like a wet noodle 609 Ilvl like 600K ST dummy

    • @flyingraijin5867
      @flyingraijin5867 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      having the same issues i dont know why but my spells feel so slow

    • @zecryt
      @zecryt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I did aswell. Then I invested in a shitton of haste with double socket rings and big enchants. I’m at 19k haste with flask at 613 ilvl and it starts to feel good. Khael also states that fire starts to feel good at ~30% haste.
      Try to get as much as possible. My haste sims as good as int. that’s how good this stat is for us

    • @biandmc978
      @biandmc978 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@zecryt yea having high haste feels much better also make sure u dont have crit on your gear unless its set pieces

  • @NITEIP1524
    @NITEIP1524 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Down horrendous" .. dying hahaha

  • @Amotaraso
    @Amotaraso 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ohh I gotta give you a suggestion for future videos. I had to stop after 2 mins purely cause you jump around while inspecting talents. Motion sickness right away. I know not everyone have that problem, but it was a problem for me.
    Just a friendly suggestion for next videos

    • @Forgyy
      @Forgyy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ya its fair suggestion ty, i wasnt gonna make a video but was bored and decided to 1 take it, thats why its so "casual" and has these weird things, ill try to keep this in mind next time though!

  • @LightriverArt
    @LightriverArt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    11:26
    Resorting =]
    Using fireball is the last resort

    • @Forgyy
      @Forgyy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      LOL yea thank you my mind went blank

    • @LightriverArt
      @LightriverArt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Forgyy
      Not familiar with your channel before this video but from the slight accent I assume English isn’t your native language.
      Making a video, talking about in depth class knowledge, playing the game and trying to remember niche words like resort in a second / third language seems like a rather tall order =D

  • @Mas-ij3ti
    @Mas-ij3ti 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Me hearing if i someone else lust I lose 50% damage and immediately need to leave the key 😎

    • @Joshckw2
      @Joshckw2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      do mages still have double lust?

  • @gio57w
    @gio57w 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    where is forgui

    • @Forgyy
      @Forgyy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      my UI is on my discord =) in the weakauras-releases channel

  • @Kitfox_
    @Kitfox_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why do I see every fire mage jumping during combust?

    • @Forgyy
      @Forgyy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Kitfox_ to prevent accidentally hardcasting pyroblast due to our procs being granted from spell landing instead of spell cast. So if a boss is further away you have a chance to queue a hardcast instead of instant if you're standing still

  • @realjamable
    @realjamable 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No time stamps

  • @roygamez2012
    @roygamez2012 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    first

  • @Rjuradoc23
    @Rjuradoc23 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pf? what is pf... Put the full name jesus

    • @Forgyy
      @Forgyy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Phoenix Flames... You have 3 rotation spells as fire and everyone uses acronyms because saying the full names every time makes it very tedious and you end up with 40 word sentences instead of 10. I understand with IB / Fire Blast but PF is common sensical.