Hyundai Getz In Depth Tour: discover all the hidden features

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ส.ค. 2024
  • Hey, this is an in depth tour, review, based on a Hyundai Getz. I take you all around the car, showing you almost every feature. This is ideal if you want to see what these cars are like, before going to look at one. Also, it can also double up as an instruction manual. Let me know if you like this video. Cheers
    Intro: 00:00
    Exterior : 01:43
    Interior 06:22
    Engine Sound 16:56
    Engine Stats 18:23
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  • @CarSpyTV
    @CarSpyTV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Excellent tour, Matt. Plenty of useful information for potential buyers. 👍

    • @mattsbeamer
      @mattsbeamer  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you, as always got your kind words. How does this version compared to the one you looked at? :)

    • @CarSpyTV
      @CarSpyTV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very similar, but the red one in your video is less broken!

    • @mattsbeamer
      @mattsbeamer  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@CarSpyTV oh wow. I must admit, this car is in great condition for Russia. I believe it would even pass a British MOT, with a few adjustments to fit the laws, like headlights etc

    • @mattsbeamer
      @mattsbeamer  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey. I never saw this message. I think you are right too. It’s not often you get cars this clean here. :)

  • @traceycrawford9938
    @traceycrawford9938 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I’ve had my 2005 Getz for 5 years and love it!! People are always amazed how much stuff I can fit in the back cargo area with the seats down!

    • @mattsbeamer
      @mattsbeamer  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s really great, see how much people love these cars. Thank you so much, for your comment. :)

  • @syeifizuljelani3093
    @syeifizuljelani3093 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Just bought one last week, still in good condition year 2008 low mileage of 75k km. Got wear and tear but still works great. Love it

    • @mattsbeamer
      @mattsbeamer  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hey, thank you for confirming how good they are. Maybe I should prepare a buyers guide for one :) thanks 🙏

    • @bulletsquadyt5402
      @bulletsquadyt5402 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I will buy one for me next month was just checking if this car is really good or not

    • @seezy1342
      @seezy1342 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bulletsquadyt5402 did you get it?

    • @grannyswatching8230
      @grannyswatching8230 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mine has 310000km and still good

    • @bramjondolo
      @bramjondolo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@mattsbeamerplease prepare one. Or things to look for when buying a second hand Getz. I want to buy one Feb 2024.

  • @letsseeif
    @letsseeif ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I live in Melbourne and have a 2 door 1.6 2004 Getz as a daily run a round and shopper with the occasional long drive. It's our second car and the Getz's reliably is staggering. Five light bults/annual service and a single battery renewal. Perfect city car! I wish Hyundai still built them.

    • @mattsbeamer
      @mattsbeamer  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hello :) it’s amazing how many people from Australia have them. My friend who lives here, had one when in Perth. Both his parents have one each too :) great little cars. I hope I can film more super minis soon :) thank you :)

    • @letsseeif
      @letsseeif ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mattsbeamer Thanks for your reply. Apart from the Kia Picanto there are zero new micro City Cars on the Australian market apart from the expensive Fiat 500 & they stopped selling the Mitsubishi Mirage this year. I think one reason is packing all the required technology for a 5 star RATING in a tiny car mean pay astronomic prices.

  • @paulevo511
    @paulevo511 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I have had my Getz for 13 years. I have had more expensive cars but the Getz has been my favourite. Fun to drive and extremely reliable.

    • @mattsbeamer
      @mattsbeamer  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for your comment. It’s amazing how many people say the same as you. Thank you :)

  • @MaggieWhelband
    @MaggieWhelband ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This is going to be my first car! Collecting it Monday, I'm so excited 🥰 thank you for this video! Incredibly helpful!

    • @mattsbeamer
      @mattsbeamer  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very exciting stuff. They are great first cars, and my friend still loves this car! Let me know how you get on with this car. :) cheers

    • @MaggieWhelband
      @MaggieWhelband ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mattsbeamer i will of course

    • @mattsbeamer
      @mattsbeamer  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! I look forward to hearing back from you :)

    • @MaggieWhelband
      @MaggieWhelband ปีที่แล้ว +4

      SO! My opinion on my little Hyundai Getz, I've named her Hen.
      1) the demisting of the side windows is incredibly helpful, as I find the car does tend to fog up.
      2) there is SO much storage!! Seriously, room for everything I could need and more!
      3) driving wise, she doesn't accelerate great up hills and tends to stick at whatever speed we entered the incline at.
      4) mine didn't come with air conditioning, or the heated seats feature unfortunately, but the sunroof is very enjoyable and leaves the car bright and airy.
      5) I find mine incredibly hard to reverse. I find it stalls ridiculously easily, but that very likely could just be me getting used to the engine as the car I drove before was much more powerful.
      6) It is EASY (and I mean E A S Y) to parallel park and squeeze into tight spaces with.
      7) she is easy on the petrol, a full tank tends to do me just over a week, and that's 2 hours driving per day as well as to and from work at the weekends.
      I love it, Hyundai Getz, for the win! ☺️

    • @johnmedina4633
      @johnmedina4633 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@MaggieWhelband wow! thanks for sharing your experience with your hen, hoping for another update before I'll get one❤

  • @chrisniby
    @chrisniby 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Had my 2005 Getz 1.3 12v for about 18 months. Bought it with 103.000km, about 113.000km now. Hasn't cost me alot, only had to change dust shields and brakelines before MOT, which isn't bad at all.
    Never let me down, pretty good, for the 2nd cheapest Hyundai model of the time.

    • @mattsbeamer
      @mattsbeamer  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you. That is very good. They seem to have a lot of good going for them. How reliable is your Peugeot? :)

    • @chrisniby
      @chrisniby 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mattsbeamer had it for a little over a year, with 219.000km
      Haven't been a money pit, only just lately gave it a service. At the momemt, it needs a new stabilizer and rear muffler, but that's normal maintenance.
      But in that year, only 1 visit to the mechanic, to get the A/C refilled.

  • @lurb8589
    @lurb8589 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice video, thanks for that. Having watched a plenty of videos on the Getz and having read mainly positive comments about it, I really consider getting one myself. I just hope to find one in good condition from a trustworthy seller.

  • @sebastianinostrozaalamo4339
    @sebastianinostrozaalamo4339 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mi parents have a 1.6L since 2008, and the car still feels new after more than 130.000 km. Very reliable and comfortable to drive. I learned to drive with it, and its the best thing. With the 1.6 option has very good and responsive power, more than capable.

    • @mattsbeamer
      @mattsbeamer  ปีที่แล้ว

      It is great seeing how many people love their Getz.

    • @saadharry531
      @saadharry531 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What about motor sound above 120 loud ?

  • @pazf4384
    @pazf4384 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have a 2008, I bought it new, I still have it to this day, only to refuel and drive the car is very reliable and has not seen a garage, thank God. I drove it everywhere, the car is a workhorse.

    • @mattsbeamer
      @mattsbeamer  ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds like a great all-rounder! Thanks for your info!!

  • @lindypet7425
    @lindypet7425 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Really good well filmed and detailed vidio ,I enjoyed it ,nice little car, love the shade of red . Made me chuckle when you said about the light fingered people nearby hahaha . I was looking for them as the camera pulled away . I did know what you mean though . Have a great day ,great job 👌

    • @mattsbeamer
      @mattsbeamer  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Haha. I wasn’t happy, it was a non Russian who took my tripod. He was scared of me when I challenged him. Lol. I’m glad you like the video. I miss filming different types of cars lol

    • @lindypet7425
      @lindypet7425 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mattsbeamer there is a Lamborghini park in the property behind us , not sure what kind it is ,it looks different to what I expected ,has a dull purple paintwork

  • @PlanetautoUK
    @PlanetautoUK 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you, we enjoyed that, love the colour and rims too

    • @mattsbeamer
      @mattsbeamer  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you, Ben. I quite like the wheels and the colour on this car. I believe this is when Hyundai started to became a proper contender in the west :)

    • @PlanetautoUK
      @PlanetautoUK 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mattsbeamer a fun city car, you see the odd one knocking around here

    • @mattsbeamer
      @mattsbeamer  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PlanetautoUK I need to try and make a video, about the 5 things I like about the car.

  • @tiezon-topic
    @tiezon-topic ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good review

    • @mattsbeamer
      @mattsbeamer  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for the feed back :) 🙏

  • @konsen6149
    @konsen6149 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Still love the design and colour of this Getz till today.

    • @mattsbeamer
      @mattsbeamer  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think red really helps this car look great, especially when it’s as bright as this :) cheers

    • @konsen6149
      @konsen6149 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mattsbeamer I am with you too

    • @Offical_LadaRiva_1982
      @Offical_LadaRiva_1982 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​​​@@konsen6149 I have 2 Getz friends.

    • @mattsbeamer
      @mattsbeamer  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Do you also own a Lada Riva? Cool cars :)

    • @Offical_LadaRiva_1982
      @Offical_LadaRiva_1982 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mattsbeamer I AM a Lada Riva.

  • @p_king8767
    @p_king8767 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My gets has the indicator and wiper controls on different sides to this one. Is there a way to change that?

  • @JayTulip
    @JayTulip ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Neat little runner. Thank you.

    • @mattsbeamer
      @mattsbeamer  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you, Jay! It’s a car that Russell has a big heart for, as both of his parents had matching cars :) This car is very clean for Moscow and price range :)

    • @JayTulip
      @JayTulip ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mattsbeamer Car in Moscow, no matter how nice, it's a bit of a time waster with all the jams. We got rid of our car when we moved to our current place. With the congestion charge and traffic - forget about it. Our underground parking space is housing my folding cycle which I hardly use. For diving we rent a car for the days needed. Usually something big to haul all the equipment and sometimes we tow the rib from its mooring place.

  • @coderedex
    @coderedex ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I had one and they are superb cars, and reliable.

    • @mattsbeamer
      @mattsbeamer  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It seems that all the people I know, who had/ have a Getz, love them. Cheers :)

  • @XcaliburReborn
    @XcaliburReborn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Had one with the digital fuel range and live mpg on the odometer screen.
    Brilliant car and economical for a 1.4 2000’s car (38mph around town, 47mpg on motorways). ULEZ compliant and all the bells and whistles you need. Air con, electric windows and mirrors, good space in both front and rear and practically turns into a minivan when the back seats are in the footwell. Recommend for a first car all day long.

  • @fitos_toxic
    @fitos_toxic 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice video

    • @mattsbeamer
      @mattsbeamer  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      🙏 thank you

  • @ilcattivo13
    @ilcattivo13 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have a cheapest TB version with 1.5 CRDI engine and manual transmission. I have it over 14 years, but it's 18 years old. The only disadvantages are high fuel consumption (on the other hand, I treat my Getz as a racing car, so...), on average about 7.5l/100km, but since I started using fuel conditioners, the fuel consumption has dropped to 6.9l/100km. Thanks to that chemical magic, the performance also improved - according to Hyundai, this version of the Getz has a maximum speed of ~170kmph, my record is 193kmph (that's what the navigation and police speed camera showed, but thanks to the factory data I didn't pay a fine ;P). Acceleration is less than 10 seconds to 100kmph. And here's Getz's second problem, because it desperately lacks sixth gear. I think that if this gear was there, the car would easily reach 200kmph.
    During these 18 years, I have only replaced (apart from the oil, filters, coolant and windshield wipers blades) brake pads, rear shock absorbers, rubber bumpers in the suspension and the steering gear/rack (from what I have read on Getz Polish users forum, this is the most frequently broken major part in Getz).
    Oh, I forgot to mention rust - my Getz had a manufacturing defect and from the very beginning its trunk lid was rusting, just under the window seal (the previous owner did not buy a warranty for the body, so Hyundai did not want to remove this defect at its own expense). Moreover, after 15 years I had to remove rust from the sills, wheel arches and lower edges of the doors, but with the amount of salt that Polish road workers pour on the roads every winter, it is absolutely normal that rust appeared.

  • @ayviuon
    @ayviuon 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'll have my driving exam next week and when i get my license i'll be driving my moms 2004 1.6 getz. We took it out in a parking lot yesterday so i could already get a bit used to the car. Of course it's not as comfortable to drive as the modern car i learnt to drive in and the steering feels alot heavier, it is so much fun to drive. Really a bargain.

    • @mattsbeamer
      @mattsbeamer  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hey, good luck with your driving test! I hope that you will have a lot of fun, and create a lot of memories. It’s cool that you have the 1.6

  • @flkristian
    @flkristian 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great car.

    • @mattsbeamer
      @mattsbeamer  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They sure are :)

  • @lauriedooker1031
    @lauriedooker1031 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’ve got a3 door 1.6 manual and it’s great. I’ve also a gr Yaris .👍🇦🇺

    • @mattsbeamer
      @mattsbeamer  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nice 👍 good choice! I bet the GR is a nice bit of kit!

    • @lauriedooker1031
      @lauriedooker1031 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mattsbeamer very similar seating possession as the Getz ..people rav on about short throw gear s but I like to know I’m in gear just like my Getz. The tern in in. Gry is on another level kind of like a Porsche ish sort of thing . But nice and I still Cain my Getz through the mountains and it’s like a part of me now. Steering is the week link in a Getz but that’s at crazy speeds .👍people don’t know that a Getz is a classic car .

  • @aliali-id3vc
    @aliali-id3vc 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What is the brake control system?
    Is there a heat bulb?
    How many types of machine power engines are there 1.4, 1.5, etc which one is the best?
    Which one is the best model year
    How many safe air cushions?
    How much petrol does it consume every hundred kilometers?

  • @user-qx2rq1iq1w
    @user-qx2rq1iq1w ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Matt i have exatley like this 2005 red automatic 1.4 the car was in perfect condition but lately when it pass 60 m/h the car it dosent have too much power it used to go very smooth with the gears and everything sometime works fine sometime it feels to the gas pedal the the cat isnt going very smooth i the gears change very well but drives like is it very blocked please i want your opionion or if someone had the same problem

    • @mattsbeamer
      @mattsbeamer  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey, this comment was held for review, for some reason. Do you mean the car has started to loose the power it had in the past, when doing over 60mph? (like it's restricted)?

  • @mynameismrmeow
    @mynameismrmeow ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was thinking about this car

    • @mattsbeamer
      @mattsbeamer  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was surprised with how good it is. It is ideal for many reasons. If I ever get to having my dream, buying and selling cars, then I would definitely be buying a few of these :)

    • @mynameismrmeow
      @mynameismrmeow ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mattsbeamer i10 in my outry a bit high price but want to trade with my hyundai atos for abit better model

  • @20Uhr15
    @20Uhr15 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Im driving my second Getz atm

    • @mattsbeamer
      @mattsbeamer  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It’s good to see so many people, love these cars. Thanks for the comment :)

  • @AdmissionGaming
    @AdmissionGaming หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Do you guys find the front seat is uncomfy

    • @mattsbeamer
      @mattsbeamer  หลายเดือนก่อน

      That does let the comfort level down. It needs more support in my opinion. But the space is surprisingly good.

  • @Uckzz
    @Uckzz ปีที่แล้ว

    what aftermarket lock system are you using?

    • @mattsbeamer
      @mattsbeamer  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey, I shall find out for you, from the owner :)

    • @mattsbeamer
      @mattsbeamer  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      She said it's by a company called Scher Han.

    • @Uckzz
      @Uckzz ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mattsbeamer can’t find it i’m aftaid

    • @mattsbeamer
      @mattsbeamer  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Uckzz I think it’s a very old system now. The owner told me she doesn’t use it.

    • @Uckzz
      @Uckzz ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mattsbeamer yea i just can’t seem to find anywhere in the UK that sells getz parts

  • @maxforzagaming9204
    @maxforzagaming9204 ปีที่แล้ว

    How is it power wise ?

    • @mattsbeamer
      @mattsbeamer  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello Max. I wouldn’t say it’s powerful, but it is very nippy around town. I was quite impressed. If you want it to be extra nippy it’s best to buy the bigger 1.6 and a manual :) cheers

    • @seezy1342
      @seezy1342 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mattsbeamer i might gonna get the 1.4 manual

    • @mattsbeamer
      @mattsbeamer  ปีที่แล้ว

      I think this is a great choice and would be the transmission I would go for. Just make sure that the one you buy, wasn’t used for delivery pizzas etc. That is what they are very popular for here. This car in the video is owned by a lady, who has had the car for many years. I would actually buy it off her, if she came to sell it. Keep me updated :) good luck with your choice :)

  • @stefanradmilovic7681
    @stefanradmilovic7681 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just bought 2006 with 105k km on it. It does the job, which is driving from A to B😀

    • @mattsbeamer
      @mattsbeamer  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They are a great car for that. I hope you get many miles from yours :)

  • @ahah1785
    @ahah1785 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have two 1.4 petrol is at 247.000km and 1.5 diesel is at 307.000km. Oil was changed every 10.000km in both....thats it and brake pads but not much else.

    • @mattsbeamer
      @mattsbeamer  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s very cool. The more I read, the more I love these cars. Thank you :) which do you prefer, the petrol or diesel?

    • @bogdanbogdan7896
      @bogdanbogdan7896 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi, tommorow I get my own Getz 1.4 automatic gear 2007 with 55tkm ....my question is : this automatic gear on the Getz need oil change if yes cann you tell me how or when? I want to keep it long time alive. Thank you for the video and experience's with the Getz. ❤

    • @ahah1785
      @ahah1785 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@bogdanbogdan7896 its a good idea to change it as soon ans you get the car - you dont know exactly when last owner changed it....then i think its 80.000km. cam belt is 90.000km or 10 years if i remember correctly, ask if the owner changed the belt and when as its the most expensive job to do.

  • @GameXzeus
    @GameXzeus ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can anyone tell why this car is overheating

    • @mattsbeamer
      @mattsbeamer  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Check the coolant level, cooling pipes and radiator system for leaks, blockages etc. also check the water pump.
      If you see any cream in the system, then there maybe a chance there is a head gasket. Good luck

    • @paulsz6194
      @paulsz6194 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You could have a faulty thermostat, as well...

    • @GameXzeus
      @GameXzeus 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mattsbeamer it is not overheating the fan opens when the needle come to middle but when i start the car it start heating very fast.

  • @ahah1785
    @ahah1785 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Funny cars some are like new and some are totally rusted through....1.4 and 1.5crdy are very reliable engines. Also more rare matrix is avaliable...getz were usually owned by older people and id say in good condition today unless rust got them.

    • @mattsbeamer
      @mattsbeamer  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I used to see a matrix near where I lived. My friend who bought the mk2 focus estate (on my channel) was looking to buy one.
      The lady who owns this red Getz, is a bit more mature than me, and she doesn’t mind throwing money at it. It certainly stands out compared to the others here, owned by the much younger people. They have rust holes so big, you don’t need a door. Lol.

  • @iman80skid91
    @iman80skid91 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Trouble is the road tax is ridiculously high, 150 to 180 £ my 2Ltr Citroen is only 180

    • @mattsbeamer
      @mattsbeamer  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s crazy. I remember paying that on my 7 series in the uk, years ago. Lol

  • @davidtrifonov6989
    @davidtrifonov6989 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i have hyundai getz 1.4 16V 97hp 2007 year

    • @mattsbeamer
      @mattsbeamer  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey David. How do you like it? :)

    • @davidtrifonov6989
      @davidtrifonov6989 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mattsbeamer yes but i can sell and buy new car vw passat b6 combi or audi a4 combi

  • @paulsz6194
    @paulsz6194 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So you as a Brit, went into Russia ( 1 year ago) simply to film your friends Hyundai Getz?

  • @urbanvlogs3442
    @urbanvlogs3442 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cheap to maintain good milage.

    • @mattsbeamer
      @mattsbeamer  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, true! I am very impressed tbh :)

  • @montyspearo
    @montyspearo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Work had small fleet of Getz from early 2000s. They were reliable but didn't age well at 100,000km felt like Japanese car that had done well over 200,000kms.

    • @mattsbeamer
      @mattsbeamer  ปีที่แล้ว

      They are commonly used for Pizza delivery etc over here. That's the only thing that lets these cars down, Hyundai have improved their build quality immensely.

  • @ahah1785
    @ahah1785 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Some say to avoid 1.6 engine as its way less reliable.

    • @mattsbeamer
      @mattsbeamer  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      To be honest my knowledge on the reliability is very limited. It seems like everyone loves their variant :)

  • @madzen112
    @madzen112 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My dad asks, just how many kids can you fit in the back seat of that thing?

    • @mattsbeamer
      @mattsbeamer  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think, if baby seats (etc) are a requirement in your country then I’d say two. The middle seat is quite small. :)

  • @ABC-rb5uf
    @ABC-rb5uf ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "90s looking LED clock", it was only a decade ago ffs

    • @paulsz6194
      @paulsz6194 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, my 1986 Ford Laser ( a rebadged Mazda 323 in Australia) had a " 90’s style LED clock ".... Boy was my car ahead of its time! 🤣

  • @fredsmith2277
    @fredsmith2277 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i have a getz, they made a mistake by not including a temp guage or any other guage beside feul , toalk about being cheap