There's A Reason This Puzzle Won First Prize

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  • @thefastmeow
    @thefastmeow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3533

    ever since I found out that theoretically a knight against a bishop could be a win I always wondered how a game could reasonably end like that. this puzzle demonstrated that so well!

    • @empirespeech2430
      @empirespeech2430 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      when you are better than your elo and you're not playing serious 🙃

    • @thefastmeow
      @thefastmeow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +93

      @@empirespeech2430 ?

    • @Fit4C
      @Fit4C 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Jesus loves you alot trust in His death 4 salvation and be saved from eternal hell

    • @hosamhosam9204
      @hosamhosam9204 2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      @@Fit4C lol funny. Couldnt god forgive me without jesus dying on cross? That makes 0 sense. How would someone dying on a cross 2000 years ago affect me ? :D.
      Also if someone killed my daughter and accepted jesus he will go to heaven? Lol

    • @YachtyBurner
      @YachtyBurner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@hosamhosam9204 well you see the cross represents the amount of hot dogs slurped in New York City in one day and Jesus is the worker who had to set up the hot dog cart, hope this helps 😊

  • @gabby_5820
    @gabby_5820 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1814

    That knight checkmate is one of the most impressive checkmates I've ever seen in my life.

    • @UTU49
      @UTU49 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      How satisfying would it be to sacrifice a queen in order to deliver checkmate with a knight?

    • @blhsia
      @blhsia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Well, Anderson proved that in the Immortal Game, where he used three minor pieces to deliver a checkmate. A knight was decoyed by the queen for it to happen.

    • @HardxCorpsxKali
      @HardxCorpsxKali ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There’s one I saw can’t remember who it was but they basically sac queen so they could advance a pawn and that’s what won in the following move. That move was massive gigabrain.

    • @giorgioevangelisti1369
      @giorgioevangelisti1369 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@HardxCorpsxKalithat sounds like Tal, the master of sacrifices

  • @Neprosveshchennyj
    @Neprosveshchennyj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +802

    This is an absolutely incredible composition! What impresses the most is the realism of the starting position and the many small puzzles and beautiful ideas in one big one. And Korolkov achieved all this with a small number of pieces on the board. Absolute chess artist!

    • @AgnaktoreX
      @AgnaktoreX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      realism of the starting position? both kings in the opposite corners in an endgame? xdd

    • @Neprosveshchennyj
      @Neprosveshchennyj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@AgnaktoreX At least there are no nine bishops of the same cell color.

    • @AgnaktoreX
      @AgnaktoreX 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Neprosveshchennyj ha ha true

    • @mujtabaalam5907
      @mujtabaalam5907 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Neprosveshchennyj which puzzle uses nine bishops?

    • @Neprosveshchennyj
      @Neprosveshchennyj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@mujtabaalam5907 idk, I was just kidding. There are so many crazy puzzles, in the history of chess composition, btw
      It's called romantic style

  • @travelwithme2111
    @travelwithme2111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +684

    We appreciate you explaining why the other options aren’t correct

    • @alhfgsp
      @alhfgsp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Yes, and I'd say any good chess teacher would do the same. Knowing exactly why certain seemingly intuitive moves aren't the solution is almost as important as knowing why the correct moves win.

    • @Trials_MEDIA
      @Trials_MEDIA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@alhfgsp even more so, id say. im a newcomer but i can’t count how many times ive thought i had a mate in the bag just to realize the move was defendable

    • @CyberchaoX
      @CyberchaoX ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm trying to figure out why Kc3 doesn't work because of Rc2, but Kc1 is fine despite Rc2 still being an option there.

    • @8stormy5
      @8stormy5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CyberchaoX The king can run to d1, which doesn't land it in bxf5+ next move

    • @tykemorris
      @tykemorris ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CyberchaoX Because white can escape to Kd1, which leaves black with no follow up checks nor any effective place to put the rook so white pawn promotes. So black Rc2 loses the game. One thing Nelson did not examine is White Kc3 with black Rc2 followed by white Kb4. This is a better move for white than Kd4 which loses the game as he showed, but it ends in a draw. White king would be in perpetual check because it would need to avoid the d file as Nelson showed but it could never capture the rook due to subsequent check by the Bishop. Any attempt by the trapped white king to capture the Bishop would require going to the 7th rank, which would allow the Black rook to check White's king on the 7th or 8th rank, thereby losing the pawn. The white king can't save their pawn while avoiding perpetual check so it would be trapped.

  • @thomasharris9059
    @thomasharris9059 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    This is the best endgame puzzle I’ve yet seen, wow! A very simple, realistic position. Counterintuitive moves that are so uninstinctive. A knight checkmate against a bishop. So many awesome components.

    • @darrennew8211
      @darrennew8211 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't even play chess and this made me grin a whole bunch.

  • @rosiefay7283
    @rosiefay7283 2 ปีที่แล้ว +177

    Thank you for discussing this study in enough detail to reveal all those subtleties. It well deserved that prize.

  • @wertyuiwestia
    @wertyuiwestia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +986

    my man teaches chess like how that one Indian teaches us math in a 10 minute video

    • @nibir1783
      @nibir1783 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      👌

    • @derekvincent7902
      @derekvincent7902 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@nibir1783 that you?

    • @gw6667
      @gw6667 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You should provide a link for reference

    • @wertyuiwestia
      @wertyuiwestia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@gw6667 you should provide a link of the person who asked

    • @tpiano1165
      @tpiano1165 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@wertyuiwestia he did...

  • @Ggdivhjkjl
    @Ggdivhjkjl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1958

    I'm not easily impressed, but that win at the end impressed me.

    • @abhinandansingh4996
      @abhinandansingh4996 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Seeing first time checkmate with a single knight

    • @southerncharity7928
      @southerncharity7928 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@abhinandansingh4996 night and king

    • @iflash05
      @iflash05 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The ending for me was eehh, every moved seemed obvious but I do do a lot of puzzles

    • @jiogcyihsugyiocjfdoivhphvw6821
      @jiogcyihsugyiocjfdoivhphvw6821 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      @@iflash05 and im the king of mars

    • @cringekid8435
      @cringekid8435 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jiogcyihsugyiocjfdoivhphvw6821 Objectively this wasn’t that hard. There’s plenty of chess puzzles that I can’t figure out but this one was not hard at all.

  • @julianmedrano882
    @julianmedrano882 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Because the moves were limited, it was easy to see each individual pause, but seeing all of that beforehand is a feat, so pretty.

  • @johnmerlino581
    @johnmerlino581 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The interesting thing is that chess engines, after 1.f7, will play 1...Rg8, only because it pushes checkmate out much farther than the line you presented (mate in 35 instead of mate in 13). In fact, there are many ways that Black can delay checkmate. But your line is by far the most elegant.

    • @AutPen38
      @AutPen38 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      If you can't see the mate in 35 right at the start, you'll never be a chess engine.

  • @aoyuki1409
    @aoyuki1409 2 ปีที่แล้ว +120

    Thanks i got into this exact position in my 257 elo gameplay so i memorised everything u just said and used it to beat my unsuspecting opponent

    • @zalor4254
      @zalor4254 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      lmao nice job

    • @investidoramador9850
      @investidoramador9850 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      this position happens every week when i am playing

    • @darkness4839
      @darkness4839 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A 257 would definitely not find all those.

    • @RL_Happy
      @RL_Happy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@darkness4839 ur projecting

    • @darkness4839
      @darkness4839 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RL_Happy That your only argument? That's as inaccurate as it is ignorant. No, it's just called judging.

  • @Draqson
    @Draqson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    The sad part about this puzzle is, that trading down to King vs. King, knight and bishop is actually more resilient for black.

    • @darsans6720
      @darsans6720 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes exactly, we had women world champion failing to convert that endgame once.

    • @lewiscook3918
      @lewiscook3918 ปีที่แล้ว

      as if it is all predetermined

  • @rhpmike
    @rhpmike ปีที่แล้ว +19

    This is one of those puzzles where when it is broken down into smaller puzzles, all of the moves are relatively easy to find, but it's really hard to see all of these ideas from the opening position.

  • @Caanths
    @Caanths 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    At 6:58 couldn’t you do the same fork move with the knight as in the solution to the puzzle? When the rook moves to F8 you can play Kng6 with check (not mate) and fork the rook? Then you can move the knight and promote for mate eventually. I know it’s not quicker but that works too right? Please let me know if there’s a way to stop it :)

    • @Leyrann
      @Leyrann 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This was my thought as well, and I'm not even sure if it's slower. I couldn't see a way to stop it, but then again I haven't played a game of chess in YEARS and I've never studied the theory, only bits and pieces that I come across by happenstance (such as YT recommending me a video).

    • @rizdkey
      @rizdkey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What if rook move to D8 instead of F8?

    • @adampizzi8870
      @adampizzi8870 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Rook goes to d8 after you fork

    • @Terrafire123
      @Terrafire123 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@adampizzi8870 You're right, d8 f's everything up, and suddenly black's winning again.
      We spent half the game dancing around with the king to prevent black from getting to d8 earlier.

    • @giovannigino3675
      @giovannigino3675 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rook d8 draws. The white king must go to h6 to force checkmate

  • @Bobster536
    @Bobster536 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Delivering checkmate with knight only is impossible, but I'll do it anyway.

  • @Kat-dp4rh
    @Kat-dp4rh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    I'm proud I found the good moves 😄
    Didn't see the whole solution right away, but by process of elimination, I was able to find the correct moves

  • @davidking4838
    @davidking4838 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Oh, the agony!!!....On ICC the computer would declare the bishop vs. knight ending a draw due to lack of mating material.....one move before the checkmate.

    • @czeianamiguel5543
      @czeianamiguel5543 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      💀

    • @walterkoziol3822
      @walterkoziol3822 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Think the reason is its programmed or is defaulted by ICC rules so that's why it does it.

  • @aidanvannynatten2787
    @aidanvannynatten2787 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just wanted to mention that at 7:30, Kh6 is actually better not just because it’s a showoff move bragging that you don’t even have to keep your king next to your pawn to defend it and get a queen, but also because it’s a faster checkmate, as black has to move the bishop somewhere and the next move f8 (I have no idea how to notate pawn promotions, but queen) checkmate
    P.S. Okay, as I was typing this, I saw that Be6 (or h7) - f8 queen and check allows for Bg8, blocking, so it takes an extra move of Qf6 (or Qg7) to deliver mate, so the line Nelson mentioned is mate in the same amount of moves cuz if the bishop moves to e6 (or h7) before f8 queen (Bc8 - f8 queen check - Kh7 - Qg7#, for example), after f8 queen check and the bishop blocks, Qg7 is mate, so… hey, it’s still cooler, can’t deny

    • @AutPen38
      @AutPen38 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The typical notation for a promotion would be f8=Q.

  • @Incepter.
    @Incepter. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    These are one of the reasons why Chess is so fascinating especially with that knight checkmate that was pretty complex, yet very smart and Chess Vibes showed us why this 1951 chess game got 1st Prize.

  • @lziv7583
    @lziv7583 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That’s one of of the most visually pleasing checkmates I’ve ever seen!

  • @mrhuffler9791
    @mrhuffler9791 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am not surprised it won first place. When people talk about 'the beauty of chess', I believe people think, "it's just a board game, what are you talking about"? the above puzzle is a perfect example of that beauty.

  • @paulburris5216
    @paulburris5216 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This is an incredible study. Thanks for sharing!

  • @Beery1962
    @Beery1962 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It looks so simple. You think it's not that complex because there aren't many pieces on the board, but it's incredibly complex, and it shows how complex chess is.

  • @rubiks6
    @rubiks6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    I am not a good chess player but I still very much enjoy analyses like this. I actually found each of the right moves (surprised myself). Analyses allow us to share thoughts with each other and that's cool.

  • @arsteel2388
    @arsteel2388 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The only part of the video I predicted correctly was Knight to E7 and onward to checkmate. I'm no chess player, and this video made me feel like there's a reason for that

    • @novaace2474
      @novaace2474 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Trust me, chess players have basically no idea what’s going on either

  • @ShortTimeNoSee
    @ShortTimeNoSee ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm ridiculously unreasonably proud of getting all of the moves right

  • @8964TS
    @8964TS ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just started watching chess channels and doing puzzles after not playing since college 17 years ago. I’m a dreadful player, but I do fairly well at puzzles where I know there’s a particular thing to find rather than needing my own intellect to see it. This puzzle was awesome and brilliantly explained, along with all the alternative outcomes if different moves were played. As someone who isn’t good at the game, watching this kind of stuff is similar to watching a conjuror do an illusion and leaving you confused about how it was done. It’s a similar feeling. Subscribed!

  • @rene5939
    @rene5939 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I wonder If Chess sites don’t give a draw in this KB-KN endgame before you can give the mate…….

    • @oenrn
      @oenrn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If they do, they don't follow FIDE rules.

  • @justfrankjustdank2538
    @justfrankjustdank2538 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    man now my minds unable to be blown anymore cause how do we get beyond this

  • @GirlGeekLovesStampin
    @GirlGeekLovesStampin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Especially cool since you called out that a knight and a king are not enough to force mate…but in this case it was enough. Thank you for sharing this with us!

  • @BitterMonday
    @BitterMonday 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This puzzle deserve to be in a museum

  • @santanuroy3329
    @santanuroy3329 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I gotta agree, the end was really amazing...

  • @fantomghost6213
    @fantomghost6213 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a great puzzle. hardly saw any of these beginning moves but caught the last couple

  • @ALF8892
    @ALF8892 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You did a great job explaining this one Nelson
    Great job as usual

  • @AutPen38
    @AutPen38 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A knight and a king aren't powerful enough to checkmate the other king... Unless that king has a friend.

  • @justsomeboyprobablydressed9579
    @justsomeboyprobablydressed9579 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    These chess composers are geniuses. Keep in mind that this was created before engines and tablebases to help verify and tweak.

  • @dairemc
    @dairemc ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Videos only need to be 8 minutes to get mid-roll ads now. You don't need to stall for the full 10 minutes anymore

  • @ralkadde
    @ralkadde 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Thank you for this! Btw., 07:30 Kf6! is fine, and Kh6! is also mate in two further moves, f8Q and Qg7#

    • @taiteyard3567
      @taiteyard3567 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No shit

    • @prithvisinghpanwar007
      @prithvisinghpanwar007 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@taiteyard3567 he is telling right bro

    • @taiteyard3567
      @taiteyard3567 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@prithvisinghpanwar007 in American English, “no shit” is a saying that essentially means “that’s obvious”

    • @prithvisinghpanwar007
      @prithvisinghpanwar007 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@taiteyard3567 oh sorry I am not an american i didn't knew
      thanks for help

  • @LeafInTheStream
    @LeafInTheStream 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gorgeous! To think that there are minds out there that can compose such a study! Truly humbling!

  • @celesteschott6030
    @celesteschott6030 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    1:45
    "White has to make a decision where to move the king to."
    Well, I would've moved my bishop to A3 actually, but if I have to move the king then B2 I guess.
    "Trick question, don't move the king. Bishop to A3."
    WTF

    • @puppergump4117
      @puppergump4117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The trick question tricked you to giving the wrong answer

    • @celesteschott6030
      @celesteschott6030 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@puppergump4117 Thank you, Captain Obvious

    • @puppergump4117
      @puppergump4117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@celesteschott6030 But that's why it's a trick question, it's not obvious that it's not obvious

    • @ItsAsparageese
      @ItsAsparageese 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same lol, but I didn't have any good rationale, the bishop move just felt right, so I was easily swayed toward questioning it

  • @ChumpWumber
    @ChumpWumber 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Never watched your channel before, just wanna comment that immediately I appreciated how concise and quiet your title card/intro thing was. Too often bombarded by loud music and some crazy animation for a channel logo that lasts way too long. Right to the good stuff. Keep it up

  • @mircoschlogel1822
    @mircoschlogel1822 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just discovered this channel a few days ago and I love it. High quality chess with beautiful contributions. Outstanding!

  • @Amoeby
    @Amoeby 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I think I've seen this puzzle before and it is still amazing.

  • @psychopathicporo
    @psychopathicporo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    5:05 why doesn't the rook deliver the check on c2 to get the dangerous bishop line again?

    • @giovannigino3675
      @giovannigino3675 ปีที่แล้ว

      If rook c2+, then king d1 and white wins

  • @vivaankohli9448
    @vivaankohli9448 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is an awesome study. I really think that it deserved to get 1st prize. It was so interesting.

  • @jonson856
    @jonson856 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Its amazing how such an ancient game captivates people even to this day and also how people innovate newer and newer strategies/tactics.

  • @michaelelliotbrownle
    @michaelelliotbrownle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This video was awesome! It would be nice to see the final completed sequence in all its glory at the end

  • @Guhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
    @Guhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best thing about it is that it’s a natural position.

  • @Kevinrothwell1959
    @Kevinrothwell1959 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    After years away from chess it is this and others like it that have rekindled my love of the game 😁

  • @jasonsmith1950
    @jasonsmith1950 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At around 4:30: I had to wonder what would happen if the king moved to B4 after the move to C3. I can see that moving the king to take the bishop wouldn't work (the rook can swing up once the king is on the same row as the pawn, and the king wouldn't be able to take because the bishop would be guarding the rook. The end result would be losing the pawn). My end conclusion is if the king moves to row 7, the rook swings up to row 2 under the protection of the bishop to check the king and ultimately take the pawn. If the king moves to column d (on any row), the swing-up threat shown in the video is still present (though may end with all pieces except the bishop getting taken). I do have to wonder if there is anything else about this that I'm missing.

    • @gm1590
      @gm1590 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well said - those are the ideas. The Kb4 line was a major omission.

  • @dentonyoung4314
    @dentonyoung4314 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That was truly remarkable.

  • @hardrock3786
    @hardrock3786 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    7:00 what if white plays knight e 7 and rock f8 and knight g6 with fork

  • @INFJ-ThaneTr
    @INFJ-ThaneTr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Knight+King checkmate huh, that's something

  • @note5068
    @note5068 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The fact that this is someone a possible posistion achieveable when playing chess

  • @ezra7088
    @ezra7088 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm very impressed with myself for solving the puzzle up to 3:21 from the starting position.

    • @mikemeetstec
      @mikemeetstec 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What’s your elo?

  • @t-birdmr.t7980
    @t-birdmr.t7980 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The only thing more amazing than this chess puzzle is how someone can come up with a puzzle like this.

  • @lassikokkonen5618
    @lassikokkonen5618 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    7:35 Kh6 for Quick mate

  • @taruthemenace
    @taruthemenace 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Black king at the end be like _Who will rid me of this turbulent priest?_

  • @ЮрийИванов-е1и6ю
    @ЮрийИванов-е1и6ю 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I saw many interesting chess channel, but this is the most interesting.

  • @Captain_MelonLord
    @Captain_MelonLord 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    5:04 "So, check this out..."
    *proceeds to get checked

  • @giorgoslor_5399
    @giorgoslor_5399 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Quick question: when you are left with a bishop or a knight doesn't it just instantly become a draw? So is that knight checkmate 8:58 even possible?

    • @JustAnotherCommenter
      @JustAnotherCommenter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      To let you know how rare this is, here are the conditions of this very rare king+knight vs king+bishop checkmate:
      1. The black king has to be in the right corner.
      2. The black bishop has to be the right color.
      3. The white king has to be in position already.
      4. The white knight has to be in position already.
      5. The position has to be forced. In this case, the black bishop is forced to take the promoted queen.

    • @indigobuffalo
      @indigobuffalo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The game logic on most chess sites would make it a draw but over-the-board your opponent couldn’t claim a draw because you can demonstrate mate in one.

  • @Volkaer
    @Volkaer 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was looking at the board at 7:00 thinking that the king to f6 would actually work, then follow up with the exact same forks from the knight....
    Then watched the rest of the video and it's way more creative and awesome to do it the way you show.

    • @chaffsalvo
      @chaffsalvo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If playing Kf6...Rg8, KNe7(Fork)...Be6 leads to a draw since there is no mate threat from KNg6. It's the threat of mate after the fork which is possible with Kh6. Agree that should have been discussed, took me a bit to work it out.

  • @JLvatron
    @JLvatron 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Great! I didn't get all the tricks, but did guess most of them.
    Awesome puzzle, thank you for showing us!

  • @Juri-xz8qv
    @Juri-xz8qv ปีที่แล้ว

    5:03 why not rook to c2 checking because king can't take because of bishop takes knight and check?
    Pls someone explain

  • @Guiylan
    @Guiylan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Indeed, this was really a beautiful one. I wonder how you do design a puzzle. Do you reverse engineer it from the end? Do you take inspiration in your real games and calculations?

  • @frankvandorp2059
    @frankvandorp2059 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:43 I REALLY need to know why Kb4 doesn't work from this position, Nelson doesn't address this option.
    Why can't you just walk the king up the board over the black squares of the a and b files and go after the bishop? The rook has to keep checking you, but it can't stand next to the king on a higher diagonal where the bishop can't fork the king with the pawn, so it is forced to keep moving between a2 and b2. So it doesn't come into a position where it can prevent the pawn's promotion. What am I missing?

  • @marcoslj1313
    @marcoslj1313 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    5:03 after Kc1, why is Rc2 not the same as Kc3, Rc2? Maybe Kd1?

    • @BorisGamingChannel
      @BorisGamingChannel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Exactly, Kd1. Black has no more moves then

    • @paklang8667
      @paklang8667 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BorisGamingChannel bishop will take a knight and continue to forking pawn and king.just analyze it and u will get it

    • @BorisGamingChannel
      @BorisGamingChannel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@paklang8667 if he takes the knight we promote, it is not check

    • @niravapurv4578
      @niravapurv4578 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@paklang8667 Bishop cant fork king and pawn when king is on c1, c3 or d1. i think you mixed up the positions.

    • @niravapurv4578
      @niravapurv4578 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      it is answered in the video. but its a bit complex. The difference is that if black king go Kc3.. it become apparant when looking at the checking potential when king come to d file... the rook has the potential to check from d2.. see position at 4:48. in this situation the black rook has the posibility to go Rd8. in the move before 4:33 white king cant go to d3.. because of the bishop forking knight and king again..
      and in the other situation.. when King go Kc1.. when arrive in d file.. the king is lower down potentialy on d2 if rook try check from d1.. the king can just take it.. and cant use trick to get acces to d8.. see 5:18...
      just compare 5:18 and 4:48 the key is in 4:48 tactics work to defend.. but not in 5:18
      in short words.. if Kc3.. the rook has a way to perfectly exploit the fact the king can never enter b1-c2-d3-e4 diagonal because of the fork..
      and then when enter the d file.. he can enter into e8 in time to defend transformation square..
      when king go Kc1.. black dont have the tactics to check the king in a whay where he can draw the white king onto this diagonal..where before the king would be higher up in the middle and the check would draw the king one the forking diagonal if white was to take the rook. hope that helps.

  • @wizzardyt9653
    @wizzardyt9653 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For those wondering about Kc1 Rc2+ leaves 3 options
    Kxc2 Bxf5+ K... Kg7 draw
    Kb1 Rg2 f8Q+ Rg8 Qh6 mate
    Kd1 rook cannot safely check the king, neither can the bishop, cannot attack f8, white wins

    • @homerman76
      @homerman76 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you, I was wondering about that line and why rook wouldn't just move to c2 and put the king into a similar trap where the knight is taken if the rook is (in turn putting the king in check.)

  • @markusschellenberg4684
    @markusschellenberg4684 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Nice puzzle. Would have appreciated if you made a recap at the end with all the moves in one go.

  • @andrewj1754
    @andrewj1754 ปีที่แล้ว

    @7:01 I wish you had given a bit more info on why its not enough. White had the option to fork bishop and rook at that point, and playing that through a little more would have been nice.

  • @andyclark8991
    @andyclark8991 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    1:52
    King A1 to B2, (because of his Bishop)

    • @andyclark8991
      @andyclark8991 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I fell for that.
      Believed you, I believed you, should have know better than that.

  • @jax6648
    @jax6648 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5:04 “So check this out”
    What a pun

  • @lool8421
    @lool8421 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    question: would underpromotion to a rook work? just to flex on your opponent
    i don't see anything wrong with that, unless i'm missing something, you know how is it like to be below 1500

    • @psymar
      @psymar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you mean in the main line, yes, it would, as the white king prevents black from escaping on the one relevant square the rook doesn't hit (h7)

    • @Kat-dp4rh
      @Kat-dp4rh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You should specify when white would do that, but I believe it would, as rook vs bishop is a draw (at least in this case, since black’s king is in the right corner)

    • @psymar
      @psymar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Kat-dp4rh I was assuming in the spot towards the end where white can actually promote the pawn to a queen, because black's only legal move is to capture it. The rook or queen isn't actually important, white checkmates with the knight and king. (No, really, watch the whole vid.)

    • @Kat-dp4rh
      @Kat-dp4rh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ah, at that point, then no, it wouldn't make a difference

  • @orinking8064
    @orinking8064 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i struggled to see some of the parts of this puzzle just going through it (i did not see the bishop sacrifice) but i am extremely proud that i saw that knight fork into forced checkmate at the end. i dont play chess much so it made me somewhat happy

  • @maragazh9993
    @maragazh9993 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    This puzzle feels like a mario level, it starts with a simple concept which slowly gets more and more complex over the course of the puzzle

    • @shuetomtqasaab
      @shuetomtqasaab 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You mean the level with this 💩ton of lasers you have to avoid counterintuitively most of the time?

    • @maragazh9993
      @maragazh9993 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shuetomtqasaab Wellllllllll, if its creative!

  • @nez14526
    @nez14526 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:53 can anyone explain why Kf6 is not winning? The line shown where black responds with Rg8 seems to lose to the same Ne7 as in the intended solution. What can black do to draw from that position?

    • @nez14526
      @nez14526 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ah, the issue is Rd8 doesn't have a mate threat Ng6 like it does in the solution.

  • @danieltorbet6772
    @danieltorbet6772 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don’t understand why at 5:05 rook to c2 isn’t mentioned

    • @soIatido
      @soIatido 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its losing because after 1... Rc2 2.Kd1
      Black could no longer give a sacrificial rook check with a bishop chech follow-up. If black rook tries to check, white will just take it for free and win.

    • @giovannigino3675
      @giovannigino3675 ปีที่แล้ว

      King d1 and white wins

  • @jovansoh
    @jovansoh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    White: "One knight is not enough"
    Also White: One knight checkmate is the solution to this puzzle

  • @wesleydeng71
    @wesleydeng71 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I can tell you that the author began the study from the final checkmate position and worked backwards to the starting position. This is how all the studies are worked out. You don't randomly pick a starting position and hope it will end up in such a wonderful checkmate.

  • @mschauer97
    @mschauer97 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    at 5:02 why can't black play rook to c2 check? I am missing that part in your video, does it lead to a previous constellation? Can someone explain pls?

    • @nicolouis-kayen3016
      @nicolouis-kayen3016 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was just wondering the same thing
      Edit: another comment explained kd1 makes black lose in that position

  • @adowens0004
    @adowens0004 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I didnt have a favorite chess puzzle before this video. I do now. That was beautiful.

  • @AhmadAlKaabi-yz9we
    @AhmadAlKaabi-yz9we ปีที่แล้ว +1

    8:23 i thought it rg7 then qf8 and rook has to block so rg8, qxg8 checkmate because horsey is protecting queen and king is blocking the ways

  • @dj1rst
    @dj1rst 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Very cool study, so tricky.

  • @vile4896
    @vile4896 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:24 king takes rook, pawn gets to go forward and forces king to move, takes bishop since it couldnt move due to the king having to move out of check, king and queen vs king could probably check

    • @ankor7625
      @ankor7625 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      After white king takes rook, black king moves to g7 and on next move either take pawn on f7 with king if white moved king or if white promoted queen on f8 black king takes queen and white have only king left against king and bishop, which is draw. The point is that white are forced to move king after black bishop had taken knight with a check, thus giving time for black king to move closer to pawn

    • @vile4896
      @vile4896 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ankor7625 ah thank you

  • @sofiana580
    @sofiana580 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    god damn i saw that mate from afar but that single knight mate is just mannnnnnnnnnn
    SO great. So easy to follow along

    • @rubiks6
      @rubiks6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm glad you enjoyed this but could you find another expletive? That one is just so god damned ugly. See what I mean?

  • @AgentSmith911
    @AgentSmith911 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing creativity to find such a puzzle from scratch

  • @djartur25
    @djartur25 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    How to send a puzzle to Chess Vibes? I'd like to share a study I've created and watch it described by Nelson Lopez

    • @maxkho00
      @maxkho00 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You can try to send it to cjx ─ he posts puzzles regularly, and ever since I first sent one of my puzzles to him, he also explains puzzles composed by his own viewers. He's already featured 5 of mine :)

    • @sparshsharma5270
      @sparshsharma5270 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@maxkho00
      What cjx? Where?

    • @maxkho00
      @maxkho00 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sparshsharma5270 cjxchess17, TH-cam

  • @NoRodNeeded
    @NoRodNeeded ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the ending line of a very famous study from the 1950s. White to move, with a white pawn on f6, a white knight on f5, a white bishop on c1, a black rook on g6 and a black bishop on c8. Kings are on a1 for white and h8 for black. Check this study out if you have the time, what is shown in this shirt is only the end, where the rook checks the king all the way from a1 to h6, where the first check (Ra6+) involves a very pretty idea Ba3!!, which is the trickiest part of the study. Super cool, and it won a prize.

  • @notnicolson1606
    @notnicolson1606 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video, showed this to my teacher and took quite a while to solve it

    • @anmax
      @anmax 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You put him in a really tight spot haha

  • @tykemorris
    @tykemorris ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent puzzle which I did not correctly solve. An interesting variation that doesn't work for white just before 17 minutes... After the white to Kf6 blunder, instead of the pawn capture leading to an immediate draw, white Ne7 threatens checkmate on the next move. Black can't use Rf8 because it leads to a white Ng6 fork to capture the rook for free with check tempo. The only move for black is Be6. This forces the white king to capture the Bishop Ke6. This allows a more effective black Rf8 move, as after white Ng6, Black King can escape to the g file at Kg7. Now when white captures the rook at Nf8, Black captures the knight on f8, which blocks the pawn and forces stalemate. So the variation doesn't work. Here is the sequence.
    W Kf6 blunder
    B Rg8
    W Ne7 checkmate threat
    B Be6
    W Ke6 captures bishop
    B Rf8
    W Ng6 check fork
    B Kg7
    W Nf8 captures rook
    B Kf8 captures knight
    W Kf6 stalemate

  • @Ricka_seven
    @Ricka_seven 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The end gave me goosebumps

  • @Crowsinger
    @Crowsinger ปีที่แล้ว

    At 7:00 can't white play Ne7 as well? I don't understand why that wouldn't be an option.

  • @mikemeetstec
    @mikemeetstec 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Imagine getting this far just to lose on time. 😔

  • @yyyy-uv3po
    @yyyy-uv3po ปีที่แล้ว +2

    - "Good job by Black for defending the position... oh, wait a minute... Knight mate"
    - Mind explodes

  • @roepathshala5484
    @roepathshala5484 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    that position was a headache for me !!!🤣

  • @wayneyadams
    @wayneyadams 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That is such a complicated puzzle to analyze, but seeing the solution is amazing. This is truly a great puzzle, and you are right, it deserved the win. Thanks for sharing!

  • @jebbush3130
    @jebbush3130 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I saw all of that of course

  • @joelwitick
    @joelwitick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At 5,49 rock can also go to a5…
    Because if white get a queen rock takes knight check fork the queen.. white take the rock whit the queen black take it back whit the bishop

    • @rizdkey
      @rizdkey 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If white gets queen.. its checkmate

  • @snekye5419
    @snekye5419 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    wouldnt it be a draw by insufficent material just before the checkmate ?

    • @bolnet632
      @bolnet632 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah that’s what I’m wondering too

    • @VR36030
      @VR36030 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not if there's a forced mate.

    • @oenrn
      @oenrn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There isn't insufficient material there.
      Knight + king vs. king is insufficient material, because checkmate is impossible.
      Knight + king vs. bishop + king is NOT insufficient material, because a checkmate can happen.

    • @Kat-dp4rh
      @Kat-dp4rh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@oenrn yeah, that's the fide rules, but from what I know, the American federation has different laws regarding to that (which is dumb, and this is a good proof). Now I believe that, even in the USA, no arbiter would declare it a draw, and computers neither since there is mate in 1

    • @rizka7945
      @rizka7945 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@oenrn More specifically, the side with the knight can mate. The side with the bishop cannot.

  • @tusgi
    @tusgi ปีที่แล้ว

    Only part that wasn't explained and I don't know the answer is at 7:04 once king is on H6, how does white respond to bishop taking the knight instead of using the rook?